On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote: > > On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > >> On Feb 17, 3:07 am, Sirius <deuter...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> To be sincere, I really don't care much, nor know much, about the >>> license, I just want to have credit ... >> >> Yes, I don't care much either but here my two cents: My personal >> "definition" of logo is a unique graphic to represent the project. >> Unique means, no other project/entity uses it. >> On the other hand, the whole intention behind releasing something >> under a license (no matter which one) is, to give others some usage >> rights without asking and without questioning for what it is used. >> Therefore, releasing the sage logo in a CC license means, that some >> other entity can use it. [This has nothing to do with copyright, since >> your work is always copyrighted!] > > These are more trademark than copyright questions. If someone wanted > to create brand confusion they could free-hand the dodecahedron on > the left, use a (marginally) different font for the lettering, and it > would not violate copyright at all (as long as they only used the > ideas from the original logo, not any actual copying). > >> I know, that's probably controversial and discussing this only >> consumes time that's better used for something else. My point of view >> is to keep the copyright (as it is automatically and always) and >> explicitly dedicate such works to the sage project. period. Just like >> donated money can't be used for buying beer. > > I think this just makes things messier--what if I want to make a > shirt that has the Sage logo on it? Do I have to get permission from > the Sage project? Do I have to get permission to put the logo on my > site with a link to Sage? Can I change the colors to better fit with > my site's theme? What if I think it can be improved by adding texture > to the background, or (as started this email) tweaking the lettering? > Are these derivative works even allowed? If so, are they also > explicitly dedicated to the Sage project? If I produce, say, a > project that allows one to use Sage on an iPhone (or, even, uses Sage > as a backend for my iPhone calculus application) can I incorporate > part or all of the logo into my application's logo? > > A concrete license like the CC makes things so much cleaner, and I > think CC by-sa is an excellent fit. > > - Robert >
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