On 10/25/2010 11:55 AM, David Kirkby wrote:
> On 25 October 2010 17:26, Gonzalo Tornaria <torna...@math.utexas.edu> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM, David Kirkby <david.kir...@onetel.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> Since Minh has been using an external server (I think run by GNU) for
>>> Debian, we can probably add Debian at some point if we can get
>>> permission to run a buildbot slave there.
>>
>> 1. Is there a reason for not running debian on a vm on boxen?
> 
> To my knowledge there is currently not a buildbot on any VM. I believe
> there is a plan to do this. But at this very moment there are not any

There are several possible VMs, including Debian (32 and 64-bit), we
could add to or update on boxen's farm.  It's a matter of someone (or
several people) setting them up, installing the operating systems,
keeping them up to date, etc.  Unfortunately, this is a lot of work,
unless, perhaps, we distribute it.  Alternatively, we can run
buildslaves on machines administered by others.

> to my knowledge. Here's the list. As far as I'm aware the machines are
> either on
> 
> a) *.math.washington.edu hosts
> b) hosts on skynet
> c) 'hawk which is my personal machine.
> 
>> 2. what is needed to run a buildbot?
> 
> Mitesh will know more, since he has set them up.

Basically, a machine should

 0. Already be set up to build Sage.

 1. Have an ssh-accessible 'buildbot' user account in which Sage builds.
 ssh is for setup, maintenance, and build/test postmortems.  Buildbot
uses a different protocol for master-slave communication.

 2. Have a system-wide installation of Python 2.4 or later, including
the Python development headers.  With this, I can 'easy_install
buildbot-slave' into a Python virtual environment [1], which makes it
easy to upgrade the package from the buildbot account.  But the machine
administrator could instead install the package globally.

[1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv

> I know for me personally I just gave him an account (username
> buildbot), and an IP address into which the buildbot can ssh.

>> (it would feel pretty awkward not to support debian)
> 
> Agreed, but at this moment in time there is not a regular Debian
> machine. Hence I suggest we do not consider Debian "fully supported"
> until such as time as we test on Debian.

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