On 25 Okt., 19:25, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:09 AM, David Kirkby <david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote: > > As has been remarked before, Sage has number lists of "supported > > platforms", no two of which agree with each other. > > > I proposed some time ago we break the list into 3 > > > 1) Fully supported - every Sage release is tested on it. > > 2) Expected to work > > 3) Probably will not work, but porting work in ongoing > > > See > > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/suggested-for-supported-platforms > > > Now we have a build bot for Sage, it is relatively easy to test every > > release of Sage on a number of systems. Currently there are 17 systems > > on which Sage is being built. > > >http://build.sagemath.org/sage/waterfall > > > I suggest that we provide a page like > > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/suggested-for-supported-platforms > > > but put those 17 systems into the "Fully supported". That means the > > exact versions of the operating systems would be given, and not just > > "Fedora" or "Ubunta", OS X or Solaris. > > > Then, we move into the "Expected to work" category, recent > > distributions of these systems, and any older ones we might expect to > > work, but do not actually test on. > > > Any attempt to say we support "the latest release" of a distribution > > is IMHO unwise, as we can't possibly do this. Linux distributions come > > out all the time, and often break. Apparently Sage has been broken for > > some time on OpenSUSE 11.2 and 11.3. > > > We should then have an errata page like > > >http://wiki.sagemath.org/errata > > > to let people know of any issues that are discovered after the release. > > > Does this sound reasonable to everyone? If so, I am willing to collect > > the exact information about all the systems in the buildbot, and add > > them to the "Fully supported". (I'm assuming that Sage can be made to > > pass all tests on all the hardware on the buildbots, though if that is > > not so, then that system would obviously not be placed in the "Fully > > supported" section). > > > Given we have a buildbot, it should be fairly easy to create binaries > > for all these systems too, and make the binaries available. > > +1 > > > We really *must* get ride of all these different lists of "supported" > > systems and have one single list, and as many links to that list as we > > want. Then the list only needs to get updated in one place. > > +1 > > > If we can get agreement on this, I'll do the work, but I'm not going > > to waste my time finding out the right information, if there are going > > to be endless arguments of what we support. To me, fully supporting > > what we can easily test on is the right way to proceed. > > As I've stated in the past, I'm very supportive of basing our > supported platform list on an automated build process, like the build > bot we have now set up. > > - Robert
I agree on most of the above, too, but I think we shouldn't limit the list of supported platforms to those available to buildbots. I.e., a script to "automatically" (explicitly started by the user, optionally anonymously) submit (at least) successful build reports would be helpful, too, such that we can also include "passive slaves", since I think there are quite a lot people more or less regularly testing on other - perhaps even exotic - systems as well, but cannot make their machines available to the build farm. Such successfully tested system configurations could at least be listed in release notes (again by a script); nobody wants to manually extract them from posts on sage-release, and I guess this way even more people would contribute build reports. (The per-release build farm wiki pages [1] are updated by even fewer people than report on sage-release, for I think a couple of reasons. Anonymous reports could be automatically added there, too.) -Leif [1] http://wiki.sagemath.org/devel/BuildFarm -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
