On Thursday, 24 September 2015 15:34:46 UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
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> On Thursday, 24 September 2015 15:02:39 UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote:
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>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 11:18:58 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik 
>> wrote:
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>>> IMHO abbreviations are OK when they are known to basically every 
>>>> mathematician, e.g. ZZ. Which translates to about undergrad level. Just 
>>>> ask 
>>>> a undergraduate student what a T2starGQ graph is and you'll have your 
>>>> answer.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Huh? Ask an undergraduate what a  T2starGeneralizedQuadrangle graph is. 
>>> Result will be the same.
>>>
>>
>> You are missing the point. Of course Sage contains stuff that are beyond 
>> the undergrad syllabus. All I'm saying that you shouldn't abbreviate it, 
>> then. E.g. searching for "Generalized Quadrangle" easily finds an 
>> explanation for what that is, whereas searching for GQ brings you to the 
>> website of the Gentlemen's Quarterly magazine.
>>
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> the function is documented, and one can easily see what it is about, no 
> need to google. In comparison, try googling for ZZ, or for GL.
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> Signature:      graphs.T2starGQGraph(q, dual=False, hyperoval=None, 
> field=None, check_hyperoval=True)
> Docstring:
>    Return the collinearity graph of the generalized quadrangle
>    T_2^*(q), or of its dual
>
> FYI, Mathscinet finds 34 papers with abbreviation GQ in the title; 1 
> refers to something else, 33 refer to generalized quadrangles.
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> And by the way, look at the docstring fot LLL:
> Docstring:
>    Return LLL reduced or approximated LLL reduced lattice R for this
>    matrix interpreted as a lattice.
>
> "matrix interpreted as lattice..." maybe it should be "lettuce" there?
>
> FYI, Mathscinet finds 34 papers with abbreviation LLL in the title.
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                                      ^^^^ 47, sorry for typo. 

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> Or even better, look at  BKZ method for matrices. I must say I didn't know 
> this abbreviation. Anyone does know?
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> FYI, Mathscinet finds 8 papers with abbreviation BKZ. But only 2 are 
> relevant to BKZ for matrices, the rest are about some stuff in 
> fluid dynamics known as K-BKZ.
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> Now you  seem to be telling me that GQ (33 times mentioned in titles of 
> maths papers) is an obscure abbreviation  and cannot be used in Sage 
> function names, while LLL 
> (wow, 20% more times in titles)  and BKZ (wow, mentioned 2 times in titles 
> of maths papers) are just great to have as it is...
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> We could have fixed lots of broken docs in Sage, instead of having this 
> useless discussion.
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