Good news: with a fresh session, a fresh clone, ./bootstrap, ./configure, make 
build succeeds on Fedora 39.

Best,
David.

> Le 9 sept. 2025 à 00:06, Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> So the building of the needed dependencies does not even start, it directly 
> goes to building sagelib? Weird, certainly on Fedora we are not there yet, by 
> far.
> 
> Check your environment, there perhaps an old Sage kicking in, SAGEROOT set to 
> something, or Conda install accessible, something like this...
> 
> 
> On September 8, 2025 4:11:06 PM CDT, David Coudert <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Make distclean is working well.
>> 
>> After ./boostrap and ./configure, make build is still failing at the same 
>> point :(
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> Le 8 sept. 2025 à 17:37, Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 7:38 AM David Coudert <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On fedora 39, after a make distclean, I get
>>> 
>>> Do you mean to say that "make distclean" is broken?
>>> After an major update, please run ./bootstrap and ./configure first of all.
>>> 
>>> Makefiles could've changed, configure scripts could've changed.
>>> Expecting that a relatively nontrivial make target will work correctly
>>> without ./bootstrap && ./configure is a wishful thinking.
>>> 
>>> To clean without invoking make, run something like "git clean -fdx"
>>> (although it cleans more, including everything in upstream/)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Setting up build directory 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/var/tmp/sage/build/sagelib-10.8.beta2
>>>> 
>>>> Host system: Linux gelati 6.6.4-200.fc39.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun 
>>>> Dec  3 18:13:11 UTC 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>> 
>>>> C compiler: gcc, Using built-in specs., COLLECT_GCC=gcc, 
>>>> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/13/lto-wrapper, 
>>>> OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none, OFFLOAD_TARGET_DEFAULT=1, Target: 
>>>> x86_64-redha
>>>> 
>>>> t-linux, Configured with: ../configure --enable-bootstrap 
>>>> --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,ada,go,d,m2,lto 
>>>> --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info 
>>>> --with-bugurl=http://bugz
>>>> 
>>>> illa.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix 
>>>> --enable-checking=release --enable-multilib --with-system-zlib 
>>>> --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions 
>>>> --enable-gnu-unique-object --
>>>> 
>>>> enable-linker-build-id --with-gcc-major-version-only 
>>>> --enable-libstdcxx-backtrace --with-libstdcxx-zoneinfo=/usr/share/zoneinfo 
>>>> --with-linker-hash-style=gnu --enable-plugin --enable-initfini-array 
>>>> --with-isl=/
>>>> 
>>>> builddir/build/BUILD/gcc-13.2.1-20231205/obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/isl-install
>>>>  --enable-offload-targets=nvptx-none --without-cuda-driver 
>>>> --enable-offload-defaulted --enable-gnu-indirect-function --enable-cet --w
>>>> 
>>>> ith-tune=generic --with-arch_32=i686 --build=x86_64-redhat-linux 
>>>> --with-build-config=bootstrap-lto --enable-link-serialization=1, Thread 
>>>> model: posix, Supported LTO compression algorithms: zlib zstd, gcc versi
>>>> 
>>>> on 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6) (GCC)
>>>> 
>>>> No stamp file for package 'sagelib' in 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/var/lib/sage/installed
>>>> 
>>>> No spkg-legacy-uninstall script; nothing to do
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] Installing sagelib-10.8.beta2 (editable mode)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] Using pip 24.2 from 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/pip
>>>>  (python 3.12)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] Obtaining file:///home/dcoudert/sage
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Checking if build backend supports build_editable: started
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Running command Checking if build backend supports 
>>>> build_editable
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Checking if build backend supports build_editable: 
>>>> finished with status 'done'
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml): started
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Running command Preparing editable metadata 
>>>> (pyproject.toml)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   + meson setup /home/dcoudert/sage 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro -Dbuildtype=release 
>>>> -Db_ndebug=if-release -Db_vscrt=md --default-library=static 
>>>> -DSAGE_LOCAL=/home/dcoudert/sage/local -
>>>> 
>>>> -native-file=/home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro/meson-python-native-file.ini
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   The Meson build system
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Version: 1.8.3
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Source dir: /home/dcoudert/sage
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Build dir: /home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Build type: native build
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Project name: SageMath
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Project version: 10.8.beta2
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   C compiler for the host machine: gcc (gcc 13.2.1 "gcc 
>>>> (GCC) 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6)")
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   C linker for the host machine: gcc ld.bfd 2.40-13
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   C++ compiler for the host machine: g++ -std=gnu++11 (gcc 
>>>> 13.2.1 "g++ (GCC) 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6)")
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   C++ linker for the host machine: g++ -std=gnu++11 ld.bfd 
>>>> 2.40-13
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Cython compiler for the host machine: cython (cython 
>>>> 3.1.3)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Host machine cpu family: x86_64
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Host machine cpu: x86_64
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Program python found: YES 
>>>> (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/python3)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Found pkg-config: YES (/usr/bin/pkg-config) 1.9.5
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency python found: YES 3.12
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Program python (pytest) found: YES 
>>>> (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/python3) 
>>>> modules: pytest
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   numpy-config found: YES 
>>>> (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/numpy-config) 
>>>> 2.3.2
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency numpy found: YES 2.3.2
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gmp found: YES 6.2.1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library pari found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency mpfr found: YES 4.2.0
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency flint found: YES 3.3.1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Found CMake: /usr/bin/cmake (3.27.7)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency mkl found: NO (tried pkgconfig and 
>>>> cmake)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency cblas found: YES 0.3
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gsl found: YES 2.7.1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gdlib found: YES 2.3.3
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library m found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency m4ri found: YES 20250128
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency m4rie found: YES 20250128
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency mtx found: NO (tried pkgconfig and 
>>>> cmake)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Has header "meataxe.h" : NO
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libpng found: YES 1.6.37
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency zlib found: YES 1.2.13
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency eclib found: YES 20250627
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library ecm found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency gmpxx found: YES 6.2.1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency fflas-ffpack found: YES 2.5.0
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency givaro found: YES 4.2.1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency linbox found: YES 1.7.0
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library mpc found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library mpfi found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libgap found: YES 4.14.0
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency singular found: YES 4.4.1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library ntl found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency Boost (found: graph | missing: tuple) 
>>>> found: NO (tried system)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency Boost (found: graph | missing: tuple) 
>>>> found: NO (tried system)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Message: Warning: The specified datadir does not contain 
>>>> the necessary Cremona database. Either specify a different datadir or 
>>>> specify a correct the correct path via the environment variable S
>>>> 
>>>> AGE_SHARE during runtime.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Program ecl-config found: YES (/usr/bin/ecl-config)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency OpenMP found: YES 4.5
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Program gap found: YES (/home/dcoudert/sage/local/bin/gap)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Program gmp-ecm found: YES (/usr/bin/gmp-ecm)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libsirocco found: NO (tried pkgconfig 
>>>> and cmake)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library sirocco found: NO
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library ecl found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Program ecl found: YES (/usr/bin/ecl)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Program maxima found: YES (/usr/bin/maxima)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Executing subproject maxima
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Project name: maxima
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Project version: undefined
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| C compiler for the host machine: gcc (gcc 13.2.1 
>>>> "gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20231205 (Red Hat 13.2.1-6)")
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| C linker for the host machine: gcc ld.bfd 2.40-13
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| ../../subprojects/maxima-5.47.0/meson.build:5: 
>>>> WARNING: Module External build system has no backwards or forwards 
>>>> compatibility and might not exist in future releases.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Program ecl found: YES (/usr/bin/ecl)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Program 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/subprojects/maxima-5.47.0/configure found: YES 
>>>> (/bin/sh /home/dcoudert/sage/subprojects/maxima-5.47.0/configure)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Program make found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| External project maxima-5.47.0: configure
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Build targets in project: 9
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   maxima| Subproject maxima finished.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libbraiding found: YES 1.3.1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency bdw-gc-threaded found: NO (tried 
>>>> pkgconfig and cmake)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency bdw-gc found: YES 8.2.2
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency libhomfly found: NO (tried pkgconfig 
>>>> and cmake)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Has header "homfly.h" : YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library homfly found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library coxeter3 found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency lcalc found: YES 2.1.0
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Run-time dependency symmetrica found: NO (tried pkgconfig 
>>>> and cmake)
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Library symmetrica found: YES
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   ../../src/sage/ext/meson.build:31:0: ERROR: Nonexistent 
>>>> build file 'src/sage/ext/interpreters/meson.build'
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   A full log can be found at 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/build/sage-distro/meson-logs/meson-log.txt
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   error: subprocess-exited-with-error
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   × Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml) did not 
>>>> run successfully.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   │ exit code: 1
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   ╰─> See above for output.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   note: This error originates from a subprocess, and is 
>>>> likely not a problem with pip.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   full command: 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/python3 
>>>> /home/dcoudert/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib64/python3.12/site-packages/pip/_vendor/pyproject_hoo
>>>> 
>>>> ks/_in_process/_in_process.py prepare_metadata_for_build_editable 
>>>> /tmp/tmp449jlnvb
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   cwd: /home/dcoudert/sage
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]   Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml): finished 
>>>> with status 'error'
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] error: metadata-generation-failed
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] × Encountered error while generating package metadata.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] ╰─> See above for output.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install]
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] note: This is an issue with the package mentioned above, 
>>>> not pip.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] hint: See above for details.
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] 
>>>> **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>>>> 
>>>> ***************
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] Error installing sagelib-10.8.beta2
>>>> 
>>>> [spkg-install] 
>>>> **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>>>> 
>>>> ***************
>>>> 
>>>> ************************************************************************
>>>> 
>>>> Error installing package sagelib-10.8.beta2
>>>> 
>>>> ************************************************************************
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Le 8 sept. 2025 à 13:53, '[email protected]' via sage-release 
>>>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> On Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS, I get
>>>> 
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] WARNING [tarball|download:164]: Invalid checksum; ignoring 
>>>> cached file /home/martin/sage/upstream/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] Attempting to download package pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz from 
>>>> mirrors
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.8/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>>>> Not Found: 
>>>> '//github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.8/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.7/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>>>> Not Found: 
>>>> '//github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.7/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.6/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>>>> Not Found: 
>>>> '//github.com/sagemath/sage/releases/download/10.6/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> https://mirror.dogado.de/sage/spkg/upstream/pillow/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] ERROR [transfer|run:135]: [Errno socket error] [Errno 404] 
>>>> Not Found: 
>>>> '//mirror.dogado.de/sage/spkg/upstream/pillow/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz'
>>>> [pillow-11.3.0] 
>>>> https://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/sagemath/spkg/upstream/pillow/pillow-11.3.0.tar.gz
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Martin
>>>> On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 06:27:52 UTC+2 John H Palmieri wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I downloaded the source code from git and built from scratch, so this 
>>>>> .egg directory is new, absolutely not a remnant from a previous build.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also see a lot of doctest failures (this is on OS X):
>>>>> 
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 src/sage/env.py  # 
>>>>> 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/misc/sagedoc.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/schemes/generic/algebraic_scheme.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/schemes/curves/affine_curve.py  # 2 doctests failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/plot/plot.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/sandpiles/sandpile.py  # 9 doctests failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/doctest/test.py  # 24 doctests failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/tests/cmdline.py  # 8 doctests failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/repl/interpreter.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/libs/singular/function.pyx  # 2 doctests failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/rings/polynomial/polynomial_singular_interface.py  # 1 doctest 
>>>>> failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/geometry/hyperplane_arrangement/arrangement.py  # 1 doctest 
>>>>> failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/geometry/hyperplane_arrangement/library.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/singular.py  # 2 doctests failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/maxima_lib.py  # 1 doctest failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/sage/interfaces/gap_workspace.py  # 2 doctests failed
>>>>> sage-runtests --long --warn-long 30.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=134973894917834549381313972273293781886 
>>>>> src/doc/en/thematic_tutorials/sandpile.rst  # 6 doctests failed
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some are of this form:
>>>>> 
>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>> File "src/sage/env.py", line 22, in sage.env
>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>    out = check_output([sys.executable, "-c", cmd], 
>>>>> env=env).decode().strip()   # long time
>>>>> Expected nothing
>>>>> Got:
>>>>>    ninja: warning: Ignoring jobserver: Pipe-based protocol is not 
>>>>> supported! [ --jobserver-fds=3,4 -j -- TEST_FLAGS=--long 
>>>>> TEST_TARGET=testlong]
>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>> 
>>>>> Others are because the output is printed in a different order, or with 
>>>>> different generators, or similar, than expected, such as:
>>>>> 
>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>> File "src/sage/schemes/generic/algebraic_scheme.py", line 1200, in 
>>>>> sage.schemes.generic.algebraic_scheme.AlgebraicScheme_subscheme.irreducible_components
>>>>> Failed example:
>>>>>    V.irreducible_components()                                            
>>>>> # needs sage.libs.singular
>>>>> Expected:
>>>>>    [Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       w,
>>>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       x^2 - y^2 - z^2,
>>>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       x^2*z - v^3,
>>>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       w^5 - 2*z^3*v^2]
>>>>> Got:
>>>>>    [Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       -w^5 + 2*z^3*v^2,
>>>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       -x^2*z + v^3,
>>>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       -x^2 + y^2 + z^2,
>>>>>     Closed subscheme of Projective Space of dimension 4 over Rational 
>>>>> Field defined by:
>>>>>       w]
>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same results with make maintainer-clean.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:55:45 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik 
>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> for this beta, I'd certainly do "make sagelib-clean sagelib-uninstall" 
>>>>>>> before trying it out
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AFAIK, .egg files are something deprecated long ago, why would they 
>>>>>>> keep popping up?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On September 7, 2025 3:50:30 PM CDT, Enrique Artal 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *.egg is not and old artefact, it comes from this build. What I meant 
>>>>>>>> for "classical" is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I made an incremental build, not starting from the beginning.
>>>>>>>> I used the order make.
>>>>>>>> All this process is done as a regular user, not as root, and without 
>>>>>>>> using sudo
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The jupyter kernel as a folder sagemath is then installed in 
>>>>>>>> .local/share/jupyter/kernel of the user home. If I run sage -n 
>>>>>>>> jupyterlab with this user, it is OK. If I run from jupyter lab I get 
>>>>>>>> the error of the previous message. For a personal installation is OK, 
>>>>>>>> but I find useful in general to use sage in a system jupyter 
>>>>>>>> installation (which was possible at least till 10.8beta0).
>>>>>>>> Enrique.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 22:39:30 UTC+2, Dima 
>>>>>>>> Pasechnik escribió:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please note that in this beta the meaning of "classical build" has 
>>>>>>>>> changed, in the sense that sagelib is built with the meson backend 
>>>>>>>>> (and not setuptools).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thus the discrepancy with classical/meson builds is now merely the 
>>>>>>>>> nature of the build/run environment; the classical one coming from 
>>>>>>>>> sage the distro, and the rest (venvs coming from e.g. conda or uv, or 
>>>>>>>>> just python -m venv,
>>>>>>>>> or a no-venv, as if you do "pip install" or "python -m build" as 
>>>>>>>>> root, or perhaps running "pip install --user", with the result going 
>>>>>>>>> into ~/.local/).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is that *.egg is an old artefact, from previous builds (should be 
>>>>>>>>> clear from its date, as reported by ls -l) ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If so, it can be removed and it won't reappear.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On September 7, 2025 2:20:24 PM CDT, Enrique Artal 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I get also sagemath.egg-info. I could build it but jupyter only 
>>>>>>>>>> works with sage -n jupyter(lab). With external jupyter lab I get:
>>>>>>>>>> [I 2025-09-07 21:17:39.870 ServerApp] AsyncIOLoopKernelRestarter: 
>>>>>>>>>> restarting kernel (5/5), new random ports
>>>>>>>>>> /usr/bin/python3: Error while finding module specification for 
>>>>>>>>>> 'sage.repl.ipython_kernel' (ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 
>>>>>>>>>> 'sage')
>>>>>>>>>> I am using classical build, in case it matters, and I did not start 
>>>>>>>>>> from scratch.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As predicted by Dima, the problems with sagelib have gone.
>>>>>>>>>> Enrique.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> El domingo, 7 de septiembre de 2025 a las 20:22:54 UTC+2, John H 
>>>>>>>>>> Palmieri escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> After running `./bootstrap` and `./configure`, the git repo is not 
>>>>>>>>>>> clean:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> % git status
>>>>>>>>>>> On branch develop
>>>>>>>>>>> Your branch is up to date with 'upstream/develop'.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Untracked files:
>>>>>>>>>>>  (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
>>>>>>>>>>> sagemath.egg-info/
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" 
>>>>>>>>>>> to track)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 8:39:15 AM UTC-7 Volker Braun wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> git branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1f459003e01 (tag: 10.8.beta2, github/develop) Updated SageMath 
>>>>>>>>>>>> version to 10.8.beta2
>>>>>>>>>>>> 287c8b49970 gh-40761: src/sage/plot/plot.py: fix random test 
>>>>>>>>>>>> failure
>>>>>>>>>>>> 153864ba088 gh-40757: various pep8 fixes in groups/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 90d2653d7c1 gh-40753: Handle aliased functions and methods in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> generated documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>> bc7c98a6d96 gh-40749: small cleanup of the file 
>>>>>>>>>>>> splitting_algebra.py
>>>>>>>>>>>> 02dee9fca6f gh-40748: moving the _pseudo_fraction_field method to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>>>>>>> d542c6ac74a gh-40747: fix some wrong syntax
>>>>>>>>>>>> 89d02402cbd gh-40745: pythran's version_requirements.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>> f54f0eff0e9 gh-40743: add type annotations "-> str" in algebras/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 86a06a248d3 gh-40737: Speed up the maxima _commands() list
>>>>>>>>>>>> ab8ee47af5f gh-40736: Clean up symbolic min max doctests
>>>>>>>>>>>> 79623d05bfa gh-40731: Hide spurious stderr output in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> notebook_cmd_test.py
>>>>>>>>>>>> e1a36723c5b gh-40730: fix issue in method delete_vertices for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bipartite graphs
>>>>>>>>>>>> 95518b8d9b1 gh-40725: some fixes for ruff SIM warnings
>>>>>>>>>>>> 41fbe031ebb gh-40724: finding more deprecated stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>> f1657543215 gh-40723: fix some ruff PERF in rings/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 63c9ba7591a gh-40722: Update pillow
>>>>>>>>>>>> f5f876ac3e2 gh-40720: fix ruff PERF in schemes
>>>>>>>>>>>> 273073b00b8 gh-40719: implement the method "is_left_modular" for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> lattices
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8aed6f7634a gh-40718: Speed up random_element of finite field
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1ad3f20c0c2 gh-40717: Fix enumerating the same cycle twice in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> undirected graph
>>>>>>>>>>>> eb7e296b908 gh-40713: Improve FiniteField_givaroElement
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7a2ef2fa7de gh-40711: remove some deprecations in matrix2
>>>>>>>>>>>> da0856bc51f gh-40710: Allow calling is_perfect() on immutable 
>>>>>>>>>>>> graphs
>>>>>>>>>>>> fbe24d6ccb6 gh-40709: Fix release dist workflow
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1cfd52c0048 gh-40708: make sure _prereq etc are installed in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> docker images
>>>>>>>>>>>> 581ee828479 gh-40707: src/sage/symbolic/integration/integral.py: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> delete a few giac doctests
>>>>>>>>>>>> be7b46b9d07 gh-40704: Fix one more optional test
>>>>>>>>>>>> ce49ea0b383 gh-40703: trying to get rid of some CommutativeRing
>>>>>>>>>>>> 454957a41bc gh-40696: Add one "long time" annotation
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7b58bd07cfa gh-40694: Fix test failure from #40435
>>>>>>>>>>>> 582f3b57b1a gh-40692: Make update-meson.py script compatible with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> meson 1.9
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7d21cd498a4 gh-40688: check for presense of the patch utility
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0fe4c81736e gh-40685: cython-lint cleanup in modules folder
>>>>>>>>>>>> e9f3727fba9 gh-40677: src/sage/libs/gap: move a few tests to pytest
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5e10ce7ee5f gh-40672: src/sage/doctest/sources.py: add "long time" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for two tests
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9ba29896518 gh-40666: is_commutative for coxeter3
>>>>>>>>>>>> 65ec4582b56 gh-40650: Add LinBox algorithm for right kernel of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> sparse matrix over the rationals
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5eacee00b73 gh-40648: Replaced all instances of <RingElement> with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <Element>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4617f2fa5b8 gh-40638: Method to add multiples of a matrix row to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> another, ending at some column index
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3f9330174a9 gh-40609: Improve shell code formatting in docs
>>>>>>>>>>>> 329257f750d gh-40592: Update `uv.lock`
>>>>>>>>>>>> 690c2f0a746 gh-40586: Revive doc-release
>>>>>>>>>>>> d0ec6636908 gh-40568: fixes in spkg-configure.m4's
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1c99c11a01e gh-40401: Implement Square Roots to FiniteFields 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Category
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9096302c394 gh-40370: Interface for Regina (3-manifold topology 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and normal surface theory)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 59a67bb558b gh-40317: Implement partial integer factorization 
>>>>>>>>>>>> using flint
>>>>>>>>>>>> edb1ce9ad86 gh-40279: Fix RealLiteral to float conversion
>>>>>>>>>>>> d953568245f gh-40273: Avoid PariError on finite field construction
>>>>>>>>>>>> 09f397adb55 gh-39876: Faster implementation of is_invertible() by 
>>>>>>>>>>>> checking full rank
>>>>>>>>>>>> a6c35260a98 gh-39753: move tree generation methods to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> `src/sage/graphs/generators/trees.pyx`
>>>>>>>>>>>> ad2bb305be7 gh-39030: Use meson in sage-the-distro
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7fb3aaf5d74 gh-36773: Raise a power series to a power series
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4cdd703f8b3 (tag: 10.8.beta1) Updated SageMath version to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.8.beta1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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