The term open relationship is not what I was talking about. Open relationship implies that the partner is "sleeping around." Which is not what I was talking about. That is more like swinging which is sex without emotional attachments.
I was talking about the creation of a triad (A couple plus one) relationship where there is a steady woman for Pacquin and she remains married. Poly (in its various forms) create a relationship bond between multiple people. A couple examples of this was used in scifi recently. Dr.Flox from Enterprise, and the teacher on Caprica. Basically the person spends time with another person other than her husband on an emotional level and may or may not include sex. With the teacher on Caprica they are all married. That is a polygyndry relationship or group marriage. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > > > Oh, I get that works for some people. I'm just from the "one person at a > time/one person for life" school... > Personally I think unneeded complications can enter when people start into > sharing partners, having so-called "open" relationships, etc. But again, > that's just not my thing. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 11:06:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video > > > > Sexual attraction does not equate to love, however it is possible to love > more than one person at the same time. > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson > <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > >> >> >> I'm not sure if that is normal or not, but it was my point, in cases where >> this is desired. My personal belief is in long term marriage for me and one >> other person. Hence, I'd be concerned if getting with someone who finds >> someone on the other side of the fence attractive: if those needs grow and >> must be met, that relationship to me is over. >> My views, for myself. This is no advice, judgement, or disapproval for >> anyone else's lifestyle... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2010 6:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video >> >> >> >> This is something that needs to be discussed at the beginning of the >> relationship so there aren't any surprises. If one's partner is bi then >> there should be arrangements made that allows him or her to be with a person >> that they are interested in outside of the marriage without reprisal. >> >> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Keith Johnson >> <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> There's insecurity, true. But, as I asked in my long post to Adrianne, if >>> a straight person were to get into a relationship with a bi person, is it >>> realistic or fair to expect that bi person to be happy forever? Let's leave >>> judgement and prejudices about gay or bi promiscuity out of it, as I don't >>> subscribe to those thoughts. >>> What I'm saying is, if my mate finds women as attractive as men, can she >>> really be happy with just me for the rest of her life? I believe in marrying >>> for life; again, not a judgement or moral standing. It's just my preference. >>> I absolutely think marriage isn't for everyone. But if I'm in it for the >>> next 40 or 50 years, can I be assured my wife, who is bi, will be cool >>> living the straight life only for that long? Isn't that asking her to deny a >>> whole half of her needs? >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 8:39:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video >>> >>> >>> >>> What you are talking about is insecurity. The fear is that the person who >>> is bi will leave the other person for someone of the same sex. (ie. they are >>> really gay) That is a myth. The flip side of that is there another myth that >>> the person that is gay is secretly straight. Both cloud the real issue of >>> insecurity. >>> >>> The cure for insecurity is trust. I don't expect folks in this group to >>> totally understand what I'm talking about because this group isn't an >>> alternative sexuality one, but I know what I'm talking about. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry, not mine. I've never understood why anyone would want to be with >>>> someone who's not totally "committed". It's hard enough to have to keep >>>> tabs on an attractive, famous person being faithful to you on one side of >>>> the fence. I wouldn't want to be worried about someone being attracted to >>>> both sides. >>>> >>>> But I hear what you're saying. >>>> >>>> By the way, I've known some guys who've been involved in those >>>> situations, and no matter how cool and with-it they claimed to be ahead of >>>> time, they always had issues when the women sometimes enjoyed each other >>>> without the dude. It was a combination of things. One, once the dude's >>>> passion dies down and he's thinking again, he always freaks out a bit when >>>> realizing this person is actually enjoying being with someone of the same >>>> sex. And two, they actually weren't as cool about sharing their mate with >>>> someone as they thought, even though they thought it would be less >>>> difficult >>>> with another woman. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 3:00:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "True Blood" Star Pacquin Comes Out on Video >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> She's bi. Not gay. She still does men. Why would they be disappointed? >>>> This would fuel some men's fantasies of a 3way. :) >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson < >>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Didn't know or even suspect this about Pacquin. I'm sure there will >>>>> be a lot of disappointed men out there now! >>>>> >>>>> As for Ricky Martin: file it in the "Worst Kept Secret" folder. I think >>>>> Clay Aiken's dossier was already in there... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *************************************************** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 'True Blood' Star Anna Paquin Uses Surprising Medium to Reveal Sexual >>>>> Orientation By Mike Ryan | Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:04 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anna Paquin >>>>> Jordan Strauss/WireImage >>>>> >>>>> Hot on the heels of Ricky Martin's >>>>> announcement<http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/132331/ricky-martin-i-am-a-fortunate-homosexual-man/>on >>>>> his personal blog that he's gay, "True >>>>> Blood <http://tv.yahoo.com/true-blood/show/39147>" star Anna >>>>> Paquin<http://tv.yahoo.com/anna-paquin/contributor/29335> used >>>>> an unusual >>>>> medium<http://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428>of her >>>>> own to announce that she is bisexual. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alongside celebrities such as Elton >>>>> John<http://tv.yahoo.com/elton-john/contributor/59894>, >>>>> Clay Aiken <http://tv.yahoo.com/clay-aiken/contributor/1207678>, and Wanda >>>>> Sykes <http://tv.yahoo.com/wanda-sykes/contributor/52103>, Paquin declared >>>>> her sexual >>>>> orientation<http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/03/exclusive-true-blood-star-reveals-true-self-anna-paquin-says-shes-bisexual>in >>>>> a public service announcement for Cyndi >>>>> Lauper <http://tv.yahoo.com/cyndi-lauper/contributor/37182>'s Give a >>>>> Damn Campaign <http://www.wegiveadamn.org/upgrade/>, which promotes >>>>> equality for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. Two >>>>> videos were shot in Los Angeles on January 30 and were released April 1 >>>>> at 9 >>>>> a.m. EST. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What makes 27-year-old Paquin's spot particularly surprising is that, >>>>> unlike some of the other openly gay celebrities involved in the campaign, >>>>> the actor had never before discussed being bisexual. According to >>>>> RadarOnline.com, even people at the shoot were surprised when Paquin made >>>>> the revelation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A second PSA features "Sex and the >>>>> City<http://tv.yahoo.com/sex-and-the-city/show/205>" >>>>> actor Cynthia >>>>> Nixon<http://tv.yahoo.com/cynthia-nixon/contributor/771088>(who came >>>>> out in 2006 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Nixon>), Jason Mraz, >>>>> Kim Kardashian<http://tv.yahoo.com/kim-kardashian/contributor/2220832>, >>>>> and Sharon <http://tv.yahoo.com/sharon-osbourne/contributor/790868>and >>>>> Kelly >>>>> Osbourne <http://tv.yahoo.com/kelly-osbourne/contributor/790850>. >>>>> >>>>> Paquin follows an interesting trend of celebrities forgoing the >>>>> traditional "coming out" People magazine interview -- à la Clay Aiken and >>>>> Lance >>>>> Bass <http://tv.yahoo.com/lance-bass/contributor/49638> -- and instead >>>>> controlling the message themselves. Ricky Martin buried his announcement >>>>> at >>>>> the bottom of an otherwise banal blog post, and now Paquin is using her >>>>> announcement to drive attention to a cause she supports. So much >>>>> attention, >>>>> in fact, that servers at wegiveadamn.org crashed shortly >>>>> after<http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/04/video-gay-rights-website-crashes-after-anna-paquin-bisexual-bombshell>the >>>>> news broke of Paquin's statement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Paquin -- who at age 11 became the second-youngest Oscar winner in >>>>> history when she won for best supporting actress for "The Piano" -- has >>>>> been >>>>> notoriously shy about discussing her private life and has never before >>>>> discussed her sexuality. In 2007, she was romantically >>>>> linked<http://omg.yahoo.com/news/anna-paquin-i-m-bisexual/38428>with >>>>> actor Kieran >>>>> Culkin <http://tv.yahoo.com/kieran-culkin/contributor/32918>. In >>>>> August 2009, she and "True Blood" costar Stephen >>>>> Moyer<http://tv.yahoo.com/stephen-moyer/contributor/44265>announced their >>>>> engagement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Give a Damn campaign is part of Cyndi Lauper's True Colors Fund >>>>> (named after her popular 1986 song and album). Lauper is currently >>>>> promoting the >>>>> cause<http://www.nbc.com/the-apprentice/contestants/cyndi-lauper/charity.shtml>during >>>>> her turn on the Donald >>>>> Trump <http://tv.yahoo.com/donald-trump/contributor/1028501>-judged >>>>> show "Celebrity >>>>> Apprentice<http://tv.yahoo.com/the-apprentice/show/35539>." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>> Mahogany at: >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>> Mahogany at: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 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