[313] DJ No Show - (Exclusive at Turnmills this Saturday night)
what was *this* little slur all about: In the end, Mr. Craig and Mr. Saunderson arrived for their gigs (miracle of miracles! Detroit followers will know what I am talking about), with Carl spending the night -- in bed -- and Saunderson kicking it in the Shelter office. I am sure that there have been a numbers of DJs who over the years at some stage or other developed a reputation as no shows. I was never too fond of Cave Dark, whom my m8s are obsessed about, and had him in this boat when on about 3 consecutive occasions he failed to turn up. By the 3rd time, I knew something was amiss and lo and behold a little bit of research showed me that on 2 of the occasions he was never booked... the venue - well, you'll be surprised: the infamous, Turnmills, which I more or less finally gave up going to about a year ago when I got all geed up to go see the same Mr Craig - who also 'failed to show' but surprise, surprise it transpires he too was never booked. You will no doubt recollect that a certain Mr R Hawtin (apparently for the first time in his life) walked out of there some 30 minutes after arriving to start his set, because (if i remember rightly) of the lack of contracted equipment. Now should I be surprised, having shaken hands, agreed terms, that I had a regular Thursday night there to promote my own weekly night back in 96 I went away to get flyers printed and start my mail outs. I was to go back to Turnmills on the Monday afternoon to sign a contract, but before i get mr newman's call, i get a call from one of my m8s to tell me Eurobeat 2000 have just signed to go back there on Thursday nights ... and the attitude : so what we dont need u - 2 4-king true! Enjoy your weekends 313ers ... i;m off to Fuse Club Saturday night to hear, for the first time in about 5 years, Claude Young and I cant wait. Made the big mistake of going to Fabric to hear Laurent Garnier, the other week for a friends birthday ... a load of peeps I know headed to Fabric and came back raving about Claude should I be surprised? And what a lovely guy to go with it. I remember someone in their @bout the members post which was hugely popular a few months ago - saying their favourite thing about techno was claude's generosity!! I hope he dont think he's buying drinks for everyone in the Fuse club ..!! Enjoy your weekend good people - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] demf made a funny
dj drama *with a chuckle* does anyone see the funny irony in someone with this name playing this festival? hahaha *biting her tongue till the honesty bleeds* diana __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DEMF schedule
actually, i was just at the press conference and none of the 'missing' djs were mentioned at all. i suspect pcm was a little pre-mature in posting names that they didn't have locked-down. typical sketchyness. On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote: I have a feeling that just because they aren't shown on the schedule doesn't mean they aren't playing. I bet they are going to be rearranging the schedule quite a bit and changing around their site. I would just stick to the basic list of people playing and worry about the schedule later on. J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/02 17:20 PM what a pathetic mess. my excitement is rapidly falling, the chances of me going are rapidly dropping. not that i was too excited to travel 1000 miles to watch primarily dj sets anyways. in less than four hours: people who are out DJ Shadow Frankie Knuckles Gene Farris Roni Size Kevin Saunderson Rob Hood Paul Johnson Drexciya XEcutioners Black Eyed Peas Dave Angel Bill Beaver Sarena Tyler DJ Funk people who are in: korie keith kemp brian gillespie jay langa ufm and billy love marco carolla dj krust waxmaster d smooth raybone zoinks. what a difference a day makes =] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS
- Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS they are i guess SELLING press passes this time around. $30...what do people think about this? I think its completely hillarious that it's the all EXCESS pass. If it's a spelling error, it's a brilliant SNAFU, if it's not, it's twice as funny. I have a screen grab of the page in case they fix it. For now at least, see it here: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/vip/ I don't think it's a typo since they say it offers excessive opportunities for entertainment, but that just cracks me up. Not trying to slag the festival. My allegiances are torn from last year and the good the festival does for the city, but ultimately, I'm selfish and happy to be able to join for the festivities. I think the schedule is great if it stays as-is, and if not, I'm sure the parties will be the highlight like last year. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
- Original Message - From: Jones, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up I'm pretty floored that Sundiata is playing there at all! Unless there's a DJ that has snatched his name, Sundiata is a great African music performer. I've seen him and his troop numerous times in my life and I've always walked away with a smile. I don't think it's that surprising given the Chicago representation and the Ron Trent Chicago/Detroit connection. He put out a 2x12 on Prescription with Ron Trent and has collaborated with him a few times if I'm not mistaken. Great choice though! Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Technasia Sets...
OK, after following the link on Technasia's site you wind up here: http://www.ejay.co.uk/netradio/channels_single_techno.php?menue_name=techno% 20orbit# (you'll probably have to cut n' paste that, sorry) After that you can't directly access the set...it seems they have rotating sets by multiple residents including Technasia. If anyone can figure out if there are archives on this site let me know as the layout of this site is damned confusing. However a short clip of their live PA @ I Love Techno can be found on this page... http://www.technasia.com/technasia/events/live.html Cheers, m* - Original Message - From: Mark S Flintoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... I remember seeing a link to one on http://www.technasia.com/technasia/welcome.html Love those guys... m* - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [313] Technasia... does anyone have a recent online technasia set i can listen to ? the future mix cd isn't really mixed as such, which is a shame. yeah i'd like to hear a proper dj mix too robin... -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... 4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one of the better sets we had recently heard. Well, well worth booking. - Original Message - From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 Subject: [313] Technasia... Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? There are still a few open dates on their tour. If so, drop me a line. Cheers! G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
- Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice atmosphere and mood, to me.. In general, I'd agree, with people nursing hangovers and all, but the first year @ CPOP was an exception to that rule and then some. Phew! Theo Parrish still has me on a different plain two years later. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS
they are i guess SELLING press passes this time around. $30...what do people think about this? speaking as a an (x?) press person I find this extremely annoying and idiotic. WE didnt get much as press people last year anyways (they seperated us from the artists) and every day had new problems with security. I didnt even bother signing up for interviews to avoid chaos. I just tracked down the artist, exchanged Emails and said I'll contact them in the coming days for quotes. *sigh* d __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF: the mysterious schedule
I am pleased enough overall with the artist lineup ... and glad that Dwayne Jensen and Gary Martin are going to get some overdue recognition. Steve Rachmad, Dave Angel -- excellent. And I'm really happy that Art Payne, who is truly one of the founders of the dance music scene in Detroit, will finally get a spot. The schedule is something of a mystery, though. In addition to all the disappearing acts -- Drexciya, Rob Hood, etc. -- I just don't understand the logic at times. Some is just typos -- they have DJ Drama (hah, if you have a name like that you get grief you deserve :) and Tim Baker both at 10 pm at CPOP on Saturday. There are big gaps in the Motor stage Sunday schedule -- is that because of some of the withdrawals? And how about this: Roy Davis Jnr, Green Velvet and AO -- at 12, 2 and 3:30 on Monday??! And I presume the Advent isn't going to be on for four hours Monday evening. I can't help but think that there *was* an organized effort to protest PCM's management and have a coordinated withdrawal. But this also puts really good people on the selection committee in a tough spot. There are still a few DJs and producers that ought to get a DEMF invite, if not this year then next, including Reggie Dokes, Damon Wild and Steve Stoll (just off the top of my head). I also think an invite to DJ Pierre in the Hall of Fame category is well overdue. There also seems to be very little UR/Submerge presence in the lineup this year. Certainly that is something to be concerned about. Fred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF schedule
dunno whether to laugh or cry at that. i think the word im looking or is...#$%^*!! $tinkworx is a brilliant dj well worth shelling out for - we heard him recently at Lost - blew the house away - Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:54 Subject: RE: [313] DEMF schedule who the hell is that?? :P we want $tinkworx!!! At 12-4-2002 -0400 17:23, you wrote: what a pathetic mess. my excitement is rapidly falling, the chances of me going are rapidly dropping. not that i was too excited to travel 1000 miles to watch primarily dj sets anyways. in less than four hours: people who are out DJ Shadow Frankie Knuckles Gene Farris Roni Size Kevin Saunderson Rob Hood Paul Johnson Drexciya XEcutioners Black Eyed Peas Dave Angel Bill Beaver Sarena Tyler DJ Funk people who are in: korie keith kemp brian gillespie jay langa ufm and billy love marco carolla dj krust waxmaster d smooth raybone .. . :: http://nomorewords.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Technasia Sets...
i have a charles siegling MP3 set here ...from i think Plus (China) 2001 courtesy of a dutch list member which is 81Mb. I just tried to Zip the file up and it came back bigger that it started. so can anyone tell me whether MP3 files can be ZIP'd and their approximate ratio - this was 1%? I dont normally use WinZip .. only to extract Remember you need to receive this file through an overnight free connection or an ASDL or work connection. On at 56k modem, it will take all week and skint you... Of course, if any member can suggest a more efficient method of my mailing this file I'd be glad to hear. 4 wot its worth, im just playing the set now for the first time myself, and i;m rocking in my chair - he's pumping along at a good 140 bpm - fairly wicked - Original Message - From: Mark S Flintoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 12:43 Subject: [313] Technasia Sets... OK, after following the link on Technasia's site you wind up here: http://www.ejay.co.uk/netradio/channels_single_techno.php?menue_name=techno% 20orbit# (you'll probably have to cut n' paste that, sorry) After that you can't directly access the set...it seems they have rotating sets by multiple residents including Technasia. If anyone can figure out if there are archives on this site let me know as the layout of this site is damned confusing. However a short clip of their live PA @ I Love Techno can be found on this page... http://www.technasia.com/technasia/events/live.html Cheers, m* - Original Message - From: Mark S Flintoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... I remember seeing a link to one on http://www.technasia.com/technasia/welcome.html Love those guys... m* - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [313] Technasia... does anyone have a recent online technasia set i can listen to ? the future mix cd isn't really mixed as such, which is a shame. yeah i'd like to hear a proper dj mix too robin... -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... 4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one of the better sets we had recently heard. Well, well worth booking. - Original Message - From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 Subject: [313] Technasia... Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? There are still a few open dates on their tour. If so, drop me a line. Cheers! G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS
From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking as a an (x?) press person so you like Rocky 'n Diesel ? I find this extremely annoying and idiotic. WE didnt get much as press people last year anyways looks like you'll get even less this year .. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] demf contracting policy
It has been demf policy, now 3 years running, to anounce artists' names for their line-up without any contracts or monies having exchanged hands. Kevin called me earlier to ask if I knew about his being listed on the line-up. I sent him to the website to confirm that as I'd been too busy to yet check it out. He was lit up about the liberty taken and as little as the day before, had not even received a phone call to see if he would be interested/available. Cheek indeed!! No one I know is contracted, yet they feel compelled to announce to the world a line-up with no formalities/legalities in place. I know the committee was put in place just to SELECT the talent...not book it. So it is now apparent...PCM feels they can get away with what no other PROFESSIONAL promoter or promotion company in the world does--EVER. All I can say is that the very same lameass reason given for Carl's dismissal last year is again present this year. Wonder who'll get the blame this year? two words...private parties :] From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] new schedule Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:18:58 -0400 hmm indeed. maybe they didn't get their contracts signed until the last minute?? DOH no drexciya(n DJ) and no cool triple shot of hip-hop? snif -d At 3:49 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Rob Theakston wrote: hmmm now there's a new schedule. something just quite aint right. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, J. T. wrote: A Number of Names closing it out on the main stage tho!! nice!! that is a class decision there..wow.. Hopefully they'll not have the trouble they did last year ... and more than one track too! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Joe :P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Aphex, but I'm glad DEMF is staying a bit more Detroit than that. Bringing in the RePHLeX all-stars would have just been sick though... Like Bogdan, Cylob and Aphex on a rotating stage. Besides, didn't you catch Aphex when he came to Pontiac in '96? Well, I just saw Aphex a few weeks ago at All Tomorrow's Parties, and at this stage, he just lies down at the front of the stage and plays some old Drum'n'Bass records and tosses out some Aphex madness from his laptop, and that's what passes for Aphex Twin live. He doesn't really do anything that could be considered Detroit-influenced, in the same way that, say, Autechre could be considered to have been Detroit-influenced (witness Sean's often-worn 69 t-shirt, for example). So, in that regard, Aphex wouldn't be all that appropriate. (Ultimately, I'd have to say that having Kraftwerk close down the main stage at the very end of the Festival would be the ultimate Now-I-can-die-happy moment for me. Can't Mad Mike and Rolando ring them up and beg them? :-) ) Of course, an interesting semantics argument could be made - is this the Detroit Electronic Music Festival as in, a festival of electronic music held in Detroit? If so, then anything goes - from all over the world, in any electronic music style. But instead, it's not really the case - it's a Festival of Detroit (and Detroit-influenced) Electronic Music. In that case, asking, say, Plaid to play and do old Black Dog tracks might be more appropriate :-) As for the RePLHeX all-stars, immediately after DEMF the RePHLeX Braindance Coincidence Tour is hitting LA, and presumably other US cities: DMX Krew (live PA) Bogdan Raczynski (live PA) Ovuca (live PA) Cylob (DJ set) Tour dates (NYC May 23rd, Toronto May 24th, Chicago May 25th - closest they get to Detroit, sorry) are at http://www.RePHLeX.COM/main_index.html - Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf contracting policy
hear hear!!! me and laura can now bond against a common enemy!!! what i find really amusing is watching the responses from the public go OMG! OMG! Kevin Saunderson, Roni Size, Rob Hood!!! The most popular DJs are the ones that have been pulled. Its almost as if PCM is begging eveyone to hate them. Lets not get all Freud, but is it possible that Carol Marvin subconciously wants the festival to fail so she can get away from her own monster. Or...is she fairly certain that given her appalling handling of the festival, there is no way that the city will renew her contract. We already know she's malicious. but is she evil enough to try to destroy 'her' festival before it is handed over to others? More conspiracy theories at 11. On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, laura gavoor wrote: It has been demf policy, now 3 years running, to anounce artists' names for their line-up without any contracts or monies having exchanged hands. Kevin called me earlier to ask if I knew about his being listed on the line-up. I sent him to the website to confirm that as I'd been too busy to yet check it out. He was lit up about the liberty taken and as little as the day before, had not even received a phone call to see if he would be interested/available. Cheek indeed!! No one I know is contracted, yet they feel compelled to announce to the world a line-up with no formalities/legalities in place. I know the committee was put in place just to SELECT the talent...not book it. So it is now apparent...PCM feels they can get away with what no other PROFESSIONAL promoter or promotion company in the world does--EVER. All I can say is that the very same lameass reason given for Carl's dismissal last year is again present this year. Wonder who'll get the blame this year? two words...private parties :] From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] new schedule Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:18:58 -0400 hmm indeed. maybe they didn't get their contracts signed until the last minute?? DOH no drexciya(n DJ) and no cool triple shot of hip-hop? snif -d At 3:49 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Rob Theakston wrote: hmmm now there's a new schedule. something just quite aint right. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Technasia Sets...
i have a charles siegling MP3 set here ...from i think Plus (China) 2001 courtesy of a dutch list member which is 81Mb. I just tried to Zip the file up and it came back bigger that it started. so can anyone tell me whether MP3 files can be ZIP'd and their approximate ratio - this was 1%? I dont normally use WinZip .. only to extract Remember you need to receive this file through an overnight free connection or an ASDL or work connection. On at 56k modem, it will take all week and skint you... Of course, if any member can suggest a more efficient method of my mailing this file I'd be glad to hear. You could use Winrar and split it up into smaller files of your choice (10 - 8MB files, 40 - 2MB files...). Plus, I think it does better compression ratios too. Kevin http://www.mp313.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Of course, an interesting semantics argument could be made - is this the Detroit Electronic Music Festival as in, a festival of electronic music held in Detroit? If so, then anything goes - from all over the world, in any electronic music style. that's the way I've always read the title ... doesn't the other way keep Detroit techno provincial to some degree? I think there's a balance that needs to be struck between the two. -d -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF AUX MEN!
What I would give to be able to see the return of the AUX MEN! That would be some seriously wild stuff! Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2002 3:34 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice atmosphere and mood, to me.. oh well..still pumped! jt _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313]Van Halen @ DEMF
I think Van Halen already used that one... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:53 AM To: :P Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up Rotating - as in like a round stage that revolves? That would be awesome! ;) MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Ron Carroll
Ron Carroll is a house dj from Chicago. I saw him play at the Dusttraxx night at Red Dog in Chicago this spring break upon advise from Dennis Donohue (actually we went to this club because of free drinks from 10:-11:00). I had a great time dancing to his brand of chi-house which is what ron would deliver. -sam http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fw: Re: [313] Bell vs Wink
In one of the Chisel Records releases, I think the Rainstick record by LA Williams came a quote on the press release that was inclueded that said If you havn't heard it yet then it is new new to you. And I am sure that there is plenty of older stuff out there that most of us havn't heard. If you don't like the wink track then there is something else out there to check out. although i still think mr wink can goto hell after the hows your evening so far thing. I havn't even heard the Phreak thing yet. so sad... jeff -Original Message- From: Cyborg K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [313] Bell vs Wink I would just like to say that I found Fred's post to be quite informative, and I'm sure others did as well. Please don't put down (thanks for the unecessary law lecture?!) someone just because you disagree with them or don't want to hear what they say. We can all make up our own minds about the posts people make. Also, to add something substantial here, I'd be quite content to listen to all the great music of the past if in the present there was nothing worthwhile being created. The value of the new is precisely that it has an essential difference with the past, and reflects a reality that did not exist in the past. Simply repackagin something does not make it new. Fashion is objective in that it reflects the objective historical changes in our society; but the constant craving for what appears to be new when it is only a rehashing of what already is, simply reflects the capitalistic drive to stimulate consumer demand in order to continue to make a profit. / /dave (The new is what we secretly long for but what does not yet appear in this society.) Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks for the unnessesary law lecture. how do people have time to develope these immense e-mails. _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf contracting policy
Don't forget, there *are* worse possibilities than Carol Marvin running the DEMF. I think it is important to remember that, regardless of the lineup, and fully respecting the decision of each featured artist to perform or to decline, those of us who attend the festival are there because it is about the Detroit Electronic Music Festival, and not about Carol Marvin. The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig had. So that's just where I stand. I also think it's important to give full consideration to all the available facts when assessing the job that Carol Marvin is doing, or anyone else involved. If she were here giving her side of all the controversies, maybe we would be more inclined to support her. And maybe not. But she's not here, so the fairest approach is to take all the available info into account instead of just leaping to conclusions. For example, it should be acknowledged that she recruited an excellent panel to put together the lineup. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ron Carroll
Ron Carroll is a house dj from Chicago. I saw him play at the Dusttraxx night at Red Dog in Chicago this spring break upon advise from Dennis Donohue (actually we went to this club because of free drinks from 10:-11:00). I had a great time dancing to his brand of chi-house which is what ron would deliver. He had a small hit here in holland a few years ago together with a french act called Superfunk. If i remember it correctly the track was called 'lucky star', not bad at all actually. Superfunk without Ron Caroll turned out to be boring as hell. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] The committee vs. Carl Craig
Surprise, surprise everyone who is on the selecting committee is playing at the DEMF. On the previous editions Carl never played. How objective can you be for a festival, well not a festival THE festival when you are playing there yourself. Why did they do that, aren't there enough other artists who could play there? Not that i don't like hearing Eddie Fowkles spin or Juan Atkins (Why the f*ck isn't he playing live) but doing the selections for one the most important techno festivals in the world and immediately slecting yourself just doesn't sound right. there, i said it! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The committee vs. Carl Craig
Its also interesting to see Alan Oldham both on the commitee and in the line up. Wonder what prompted that after his insistence that he would never play the DEMF even if he was asked? Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf contracting policy
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig had. So that's just where I stand. I don't think he got a focus. :P /pun -j PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer sponsoring the festival? Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] tollfree: (877)-748-3467 ICQ: 14295546 Yahoo/AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 Never trust an automatic pistol or a D.A.'s deal. -- John Dillinger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Record Pressing...
IMHO, Archer are excellent. I've used them for all of my releases, and I have had nothing but great service from them. They are completely professional and stand by the product they press. A lot of the records comin' out of Detroit are thru Archer. I have no idea what those people have been telling you, but don't believe the hype. Out, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2002 5:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Record Pressing... Can anybody suggest a reputable (sp?) company that is in the Mid West of the USA. I know of Archer records in Detroit, but I have been told not to use them, by many people, I don't know if all of it's true, but I just don't want to risk it. Thanks in advance Allen Fusion Technology Records 248.343.4838 www.fusiontechnologyrecords.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Why the @#$%!!Q!k are some people
not playi ng live why have a fest with remote DJs a nd call it the the largest us (live eve nt)?!?? I want to k n o w!!! morning all - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Why the @#$%!!Q!k did nt I hit backspace o n my n(s)
cause pcm said this was g r o o v e doh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Why the @#$%!!Q!k did nt I hit backspace o n my n(s)
At 8:52 AM -0400 4/13/02, phedx wrote: cause pcm said this was g r o o v e LOL ... how come there aren't any groove artists, according to the dividers up at Record Time? :P -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Record Pressing...
I second that, and i just heard the same bullshit talking to a friend yesterday, that Archer doesnt cut it. The last release they did for us came out about as thick and nice as european vinyl (~equivalent to delsin vinyl) - quite a surprise as we just paid for normal weight vinyl. Normally we get thinner vinyl from them, but again, it always sounds fine. additionally they do beautiful colors cheap. ;) additionally they are as professional and nice as it gets. if you have good mastering then your records should come out excellent from archer. moreover, i have heard plenty of records done on expensive 180 gram european vinyl that come out noisy and crackly as hell...so dont believe all the hype. jt PS BIG props to Southern Outpost!!! Essential electro records!!! IMHO, Archer are excellent. I've used them for all of my releases, and I have had nothing but great service from them. They are completely professional and stand by the product they press. A lot of the records comin' out of Detroit are thru Archer. I have no idea what those people have been telling you, but don't believe the hype. Out, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2002 5:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Record Pressing... Can anybody suggest a reputable (sp?) company that is in the Mid West of the USA. I know of Archer records in Detroit, but I have been told not to use them, by many people, I don't know if all of it's true, but I just don't want to risk it. Thanks in advance Allen Fusion Technology Records 248.343.4838 www.fusiontechnologyrecords.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The committee vs. Carl Craig
I do not think, you can act, deal the same way with one person and a group of persons, common sense when dealing with a group of persons, Adopt consensus, to move foward. Can one person can be in conflict with him/herself ? I assume stipulating that everybody will play as a prelude avoid conflict and create an environment in which disagreements are over, focus on the main part, proposals stronger, frustrations flew away, more chance to reach the goal! There is no right decision, only the best one for the whole group. The task is to work together to discover which choice is most acceptable to all members. Besides I'm impressed to see how people are prompt to denigrate the coorporate/majors companies, but in fact use exactly the same weapons than them.. PROPAGANDA :the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person; ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause . A day does not pass when each and every one of us is not bombarded with propaganda : name calling, glittering generalities, card stacking, loaded language, Sometimes it is very obvious, or revealed propaganda testimonials, meantime it's self-evident that the desiderata behind, is to get on the bandwagon, I'd stake my life on it, for the majority of these people, it won't take more than 10 seconds to say Yes if CPOP, call them to work with. What we need is more angle, instead of pia, pia, pia. To criticize for criticizing it is the easiest, without any counter proposal or action plan, the more difficult : analysis, perspective.. The only thing I might reproach but I have not all the ins and outs, if, it is true, that CPOP failed trying to book Kraftwek, that means for me there is room to improve their booking organizationbut they are not alone in this case, most of promoters, bookers, today, work the same way than 10 years ago, whilst the big picture has been completely changed . About the Exceed pass, I hope this decision will put everybody at the same level, no favoritism any more ! no .I saw last year the mum of a Dj stayed outside this area , she couldn't get a pass, despite his son's request, meantime this unprofessional person who delivered the pass, was delivering them more on a profile, relationship basis rather than on a rule basis About the poster: it reminds me a lot about Kraftwek ...:-) I'm happy to see that people who will go there, will have the chance to catch other names than the usual so called big names, I am, personally, a little bit tired to, always, see the same names again, and again, and again..! True also that the first announcement, of the line up was more existing than the revisited onelet see what will happen . All art must have some kind of reaction to be true art, but I will more keen, incline to really critizise after May 27th... Enjoy your WE From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] The committee vs. Carl Craig Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:44:37 +0200 Surprise, surprise everyone who is on the selecting committee is playing at the DEMF. On the previous editions Carl never played. How objective can you be for a festival, well not a festival THE festival when you are playing there yourself. Why did they do that, aren't there enough other artists who could play there? Not that i don't like hearing Eddie Fowkles spin or Juan Atkins (Why the f*ck isn't he playing live) but doing the selections for one the most important techno festivals in the world and immediately slecting yourself just doesn't sound right. there, i said it! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Record Pressing...
PS BIG props to Southern Outpost!!! Essential electro records!!! Oh yeah, that new K1 and the remixes from Boogie Down Detroit are sweet! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] how come there aren't any groove artists
13/04/2002 12:08 PM cause record time aint @ carols money fest... she has come up with a way to get a ticket fee,(vip card) rebroadcasting fees and simualcast fees, and vending fees for a free show all with a ehh li neup Ifeel like its a n albulm with a few good trax but ehh I am press I will cover it (the photos will be sweet) awesome video footage jacked post parties and events BUT WHAT THE #$!!! I wish for no yucky mean people (who inflict audio based tourture) who bring corporate tolietry to a (never) go n na be good no more FREE event these are my thoughts an i AM JUST Sayin ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Record Pressing...
PS BIG props to Southern Outpost!!! Essential electro records!!! Oh yeah, that new K1 and the remixes from Boogie Down Detroit are sweet! and the shapeshifter sentinel record 'electrik city' is dope too! jt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Record Pressing...
Can anyone recommend and point me in the direction of some good European based mastering and pressing plants. Thanks in advance Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Robert Hood in Bologna - any corroborative evidence?
Hi list :) hows the weekend so far? i want to know if anyone can help me get some confirmation that Robert Hood is playing at Link in Bologna Italy on the 20th. Something like Roberts website or one for M-Plant or his agent with tour dates. I have looked around on the net and found nothing. (funny how the more technology you have to make your life easier the more youre dependent on it - but thats another story) I need to know before i embark on a 500km journey just to see him! i hope somone can help, fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf contracting policy
- Original Message - From: Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [313] demf contracting policy PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer sponsoring the festival? I don't think we know who is sponsoring the festival yet other than Motor/MGD. I suspect there will be more sponsors announced. I think that's how it worked last year. If I'm not mistaken the Bacardi announcement came after the Ford announcement, and it seems odd that the main stage would have no sponsor and the Motor stage would have one. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Paging Mr. Flintoft, Mr. Flintoft
Please come to the white courtesy phone at the front desk. Emails to you are bouncing. Any idea why? Sorry for wasting bandwidth [hides head in shame]. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Record Pressing...
In a message dated 4/13/2002 9:43:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last release they did for us came out about as thick and nice as european vinyl (~equivalent to delsin vinyl) - quite a surprise as we just paid for normal weight vinyl. I did like the prices, that they were giving compared to some of the prices that I got quoted for some other places. But should I get the master made somwhere else or should I get that done through archer? thanks allen Fusion Technology Records 248.343.4838 www.fusiontechnologyrecords.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
More like: why do male techno DJs/producers/heads ALWAYS say that. Maybe 'cause they couldn't handle the type of girl into techno. Think 'bout it! :) -- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 5:05 AM On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did I have to start dating a girl whose not into techno and whose birthday is on the 25th May and who expects me to be here for her this year after I blew her off to go to Detroit last year? Tell me, why??? :) So you can dump her that weekend, come to detroit, then fly back to beg forgiveness, then have really good makeup sex. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS
Are they definitely press passes? I have never heard of press passes being sold before!? -- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 5:13 AM they are i guess SELLING press passes this time around. $30...what do people think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
