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Because Kiss are from New York City...it is the DETROIT electronic music festival...look at the key words, shsh... LOL Jeff -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:14 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Jongsma, K.J. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Hell,why not book Kiss and Alice Cooper too? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:57 PM To: Jongsma, K.J. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Wow - look at this from the article As the party moves to the Roostertail for a night of thumping techno, the mayor's crew chuckles about Marvin's attempt to keep the festival. Kilpatrick's chief administrative officer, Derrick Miller, says Hearns, though a great guy, suggested the DEMF needs some classic RB acts. Classic RB acts? I know this festival is suppose to be about the music of Detroit but if you're going to open it up to classic RB then why not have some rock roll like The Dirtbombs and White Stripes fer chris'sake. Why we're at it let's add some big band jazz, country music, blues, and classical music. MEK Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org o.nlcc: Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... 01/28/03 06:27 AM All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay her off so she'll go away. The Hearns thing is particularly cynical. It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl Craig I'd say, see you in court -- if you dare. And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would allow rebuilding the brand in a direction more true to the real meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit. Metrotimes also has an article about this: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation. and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this if PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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KISS broke out of Detroit. pw In a message dated 1/29/03 7:52:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because Kiss are from New York City...it is the DETROIT electronic music festival...look at the key words, shsh...
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I don't think there are any more politics in Detroit than in other scenes. Here it's like 'cest la vie', with scene politics! On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, diana potts wrote: HOWever, I think it's really unfortunate that something that was so beautiful and community oriented in its beginning has turned into a somewhat monster of egos. What does this portray to people on the outside of Detroit, of its music community? Here is where I stand (for those who don't know). I'm happy that May and Craig fought for the demf, and got the right to produce the next one. Jumping for joy am I. really. But thinking of the DEMF as a bundle of resources (contracts, prestige, etc.), I think you're putting too fine a gloss over it. In as much as these resources are zero-sum (there are only so many contracts and prestige to go around), POLITICS ARE INVOLVED. When politics are involved, communities fracture. That's the name of the game. People have different interests. I wish those involved who are keeping the festival from progressing could put egos and self claims aside and see that this festival is and always was supposed to be about- showing people that Detroit, with all its bruised reputations, can take this music and turn it into something positive for the city. I believe Derrick and company still have this vision and could do it justice, as Carl did the first year. I really think they have a chance here for a clean slate and to start over from the beginning. To get the festival back to its roots of the first year and completely start over. If Carol is _truely_ for the community as she has said from the beginning in interviews and so forth, then she would relax and wish Derrick, and the city of Detroit the best. The concept of the community is a rhetorical device used to mobilize people for or against very specific projects. I'm sure that Marvin is no longer thinking of May and Craig when she talks about the community. I'm sure May and Craig aren't thinking about Marvin when THEY talk about the community. I know I'm not. This is politics. It isn't bad (contrary to popular belief). I actually think it is good that Detroiters are willing to fight and compete over something as glorious as this. peace lks
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My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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That was my understanding too, Mark. I think I'll just keep my seat in the audience and let all who are involved deal with it as they may. HOWever, I think it's really unfortunate that something that was so beautiful and community oriented in its beginning has turned into a somewhat monster of egos. What does this portray to people on the outside of Detroit, of its music community? I wish those involved who are keeping the festival from progressing could put egos and self claims aside and see that this festival is and always was supposed to be about- showing people that Detroit, with all its bruised reputations, can take this music and turn it into something positive for the city. I believe Derrick and company still have this vision and could do it justice, as Carl did the first year. I really think they have a chance here for a clean slate and to start over from the beginning. To get the festival back to its roots of the first year and completely start over. If Carol is _truely_ for the community as she has said from the beginning in interviews and so forth, then she would relax and wish Derrick, and the city of Detroit the best. d --- Mark_S._Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... she'll also be sponsoring an executive line of chauffeur-driven DEMF signature golf carts. - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. In addition to the festival, she promises that DEMF Inc. will build a world headquarters and a nightclub in Detroit, start an electronic music foundation, and produce a weekly radio show and a quarterly newsletter. lol watch out detroit! -Joe - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... oi vey. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030124-044240-4419r A spokesman for DEMF Inc. said that the company will consider seeking an injunction against any Memorial Day festival with the DEMF name produced by anybody else. While May, Saunderson and Craig will handle many of the artistic decisions for the festival, the DEMF's primary point man will be Richard Maher of May's Detroit-based Transmat Records. May will actually be spending much of the next fourth months in Japan, where he was hired as the resident DJ at a new nightclub. Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. scotto lansing, mi. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding of it. This is only true if May really owns the DEMF trademark, of course. /Dave -Original Message- From: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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H I may've been off base on this trademark thing. I've done a little poking around on the net and while it seems that Derrick has http://www.demf.com locked down, I can't find any reference to him owning the trademark. I did find this article, but it reads like a whole lotta PR spin to me: http://www.combattkd.com/news42.htm DEMF Founder Carol Marvin and World Boxing Legend Thomas 'The Hitman' Hearns Form DEMF Inc. I have a feeling this is going to be settled in court. *sigh* m* - Original Message - From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding of it. This is only true if May really owns the DEMF trademark, of course. /Dave -Original Message- From: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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; 3. Registering a trademark increases the likelihood of the successful filing of a dispute resolution policy for an infringing Internet domain name; and 4. Registering a trademark gives the trademark owner an automatic right to sue in federal court. That'll be $450 for my time and services MEK Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 313@hyperreal.org, Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... 01/27/03 07:23 PM Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding of it. This is only true if May really owns the DEMF trademark, of course. /Dave -Original Message- From: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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According to the article the currently named DEMF Inc. is planning on doing a DEMF tour. Isn't the whole point of the festival to GO TO Detroit for the music? I can see wanting to bring it to the people but why do that? Everyone will just wait for it to come to their town and never experience Detroit City. What good is that?! DEMF Inc. also plans to launch a weekly radio program entitled The DEMF: Detroit Electronic Music Frequency to carry the message of Detroit and the electronic culture to a greater audience. DEMF Inc. is also planning to launch a quarterly publication, DEMF Tour, television broadcasts and recordings to further promote the achievement of the event, the city and the best of today's electronic music and entertainment scene. Marvin agreed. We have never been limited in our vision of the DEMF by its location or just one weekend in this city, says Marvin. It has always been our goal to take what we've invested in and produced and to incorporate its creative energy into our city on a daily basis in support of the community we serve. So taking the festival OUT of the city will support Detroit how?? It might make the music more visible but it won't draw people into the city itself. Won't bring any money into other sectors of the city - hotels, restaurants, car rentals, museums, theatres, tax revenues, record shops, airport, parking garages, etc. Why go to Detroit to hear the music when I can go to Chicago when the tour stops there, or catch the show in L.A./Houston/Miami/etc.? The music is part of the city and the city is part of the music - MEK Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org, Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/27/03 08:14 PMcc: Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... H I may've been off base on this trademark thing. I've done a little poking around on the net and while it seems that Derrick has http://www.demf.com locked down, I can't find any reference to him owning the trademark. I did find this article, but it reads like a whole lotta PR spin to me: http://www.combattkd.com/news42.htm DEMF Founder Carol Marvin and World Boxing Legend Thomas 'The Hitman' Hearns Form DEMF Inc. I have a feeling this is going to be settled in court. *sigh* m* - Original Message - From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding
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this one is even better. DEMF Inc. senior executives, Tommy Hearns, Carol Marvin and Michael Smith will be attending the opening of the Detroit Techno exhibit at the Detroit Historical Museum on Friday evening. A significant portion of the exhibit showcases the 1994 The World Party and the 2000 Detroit Electronic Music Festival -- both of which were produced by Marvin. I like the last line ;-) scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... H I may've been off base on this trademark thing. I've done a little poking around on the net and while it seems that Derrick has http://www.demf.com locked down, I can't find any reference to him owning the trademark. I did find this article, but it reads like a whole lotta PR spin to me: http://www.combattkd.com/news42.htm DEMF Founder Carol Marvin and World Boxing Legend Thomas 'The Hitman' Hearns Form DEMF Inc. I have a feeling this is going to be settled in court. *sigh* m* - Original Message - From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding of it. This is only true if May really owns the DEMF trademark, of course. /Dave -Original Message- From: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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Yeah, what the hell is this article doing on a martial arts website anyway? All the other news articles on that website have to do with things related to martial arts - So why is there this *one* article on the DEMF and Carol Marvin? hm MEK scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org bi.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... 01/27/03 08:57 PM this one is even better. DEMF Inc. senior executives, Tommy Hearns, Carol Marvin and Michael Smith will be attending the opening of the Detroit Techno exhibit at the Detroit Historical Museum on Friday evening. A significant portion of the exhibit showcases the 1994 The World Party and the 2000 Detroit Electronic Music Festival -- both of which were produced by Marvin. I like the last line ;-) scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... H I may've been off base on this trademark thing. I've done a little poking around on the net and while it seems that Derrick has http://www.demf.com locked down, I can't find any reference to him owning the trademark. I did find this article, but it reads like a whole lotta PR spin to me: http://www.combattkd.com/news42.htm DEMF Founder Carol Marvin and World Boxing Legend Thomas 'The Hitman' Hearns Form DEMF Inc. I have a feeling this is going to be settled in court. *sigh* m* - Original Message - From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding of it. This is only true if May really owns the DEMF trademark, of course. /Dave -Original Message- From: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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A - of course. Thomas The Hitman Hearns is the connection. nevermind MEK Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 01/27/03 09:00 PMSubject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... Yeah, what the hell is this article doing on a martial arts website anyway? All the other news articles on that website have to do with things related to martial arts - So why is there this *one* article on the DEMF and Carol Marvin? hm MEK scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org bi.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... 01/27/03 08:57 PM this one is even better. DEMF Inc. senior executives, Tommy Hearns, Carol Marvin and Michael Smith will be attending the opening of the Detroit Techno exhibit at the Detroit Historical Museum on Friday evening. A significant portion of the exhibit showcases the 1994 The World Party and the 2000 Detroit Electronic Music Festival -- both of which were produced by Marvin. I like the last line ;-) scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... H I may've been off base on this trademark thing. I've done a little poking around on the net and while it seems that Derrick has http://www.demf.com locked down, I can't find any reference to him owning the trademark. I did find this article, but it reads like a whole lotta PR spin to me: http://www.combattkd.com/news42.htm DEMF Founder Carol Marvin and World Boxing Legend Thomas 'The Hitman' Hearns Form DEMF Inc. I have a feeling this is going to be settled in court. *sigh* m* - Original Message - From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding of it. This is only true if May really owns the DEMF trademark, of course. /Dave -Original Message- From: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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Well the site is billed as Where a true warrior's quest begins, Hearns is boxer...I guess the martial artists think he's a 'True Warrior';-) It is a bit random though. Laters, m* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... Yeah, what the hell is this article doing on a martial arts website anyway? All the other news articles on that website have to do with things related to martial arts - So why is there this *one* article on the DEMF and Carol Marvin? hm MEK scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org bi.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... 01/27/03 08:57 PM this one is even better. DEMF Inc. senior executives, Tommy Hearns, Carol Marvin and Michael Smith will be attending the opening of the Detroit Techno exhibit at the Detroit Historical Museum on Friday evening. A significant portion of the exhibit showcases the 1994 The World Party and the 2000 Detroit Electronic Music Festival -- both of which were produced by Marvin. I like the last line ;-) scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... H I may've been off base on this trademark thing. I've done a little poking around on the net and while it seems that Derrick has http://www.demf.com locked down, I can't find any reference to him owning the trademark. I did find this article, but it reads like a whole lotta PR spin to me: http://www.combattkd.com/news42.htm DEMF Founder Carol Marvin and World Boxing Legend Thomas 'The Hitman' Hearns Form DEMF Inc. I have a feeling this is going to be settled in court. *sigh* m* - Original Message - From: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Well, from what I know, incorporating DEMF would simply mean that a business named DEMF, Inc. exists. A trademark, on the other hand, gives you the right to market a product or services under a given name, like a brand name, regardless of the name of the company that is selling the product. So , given the information you just gave, I'd guess that Marvin's DEMF Inc. would not have any right to market an event called DEMF or a product that says DEMF (tm) on it, only May or his company would have that right. Possibly Marvin could be sued for infringing on the trademark if that happened. I'm no lawyer but this is my understanding of it. This is only true if May really owns the DEMF trademark, of course. /Dave -Original Message- From: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... My understanding is that Derrick May has 'DEMF' trademarked, while Carol Marvin has 'DEMF' incorporated. I know nothing about copyright law, so I'm not sure if one of these cancels out the other or if they both have equal right to the name. From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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But, Does Derrick have the right to claim the trademark DEMF? I mean I know we all wish he can, or atleast anyone but Marvin, but if the DEMF was based on the work commercially done by Marvin's Pop Culture, and then someone else comes in and scoops the name up, from what I know about law, Derrick shouldn't be able to obtain the rights. I mean this is a city sponsored event by the Dept. of Recreation. Not a private venture. I believe the city of Detroit has the first priority to the name they sponsored, and they invested in. I mean for example, if I operate a Pizzeria in Detroit named Big Dave's, but don't make any appropriate claim to the name, yet my reputation is built on it, then an unknown Big Dave's pizza trademarks the name, and tries to work off the success of the first Big Dave's pizza, from what I believe the First Big Dave, can sue the 2nd Big Dave for the rights to the name. and usually that party wins. I want an Electronic Music Festival in Detroit. I want anyone but the Marvin team to promote it, but as far as name ownership, I believe the city has first dibs, and the Pop Culture has 2nd's if the city doesn't want it. Any business lawyers out there? Steve
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The wordsmithing involved in a sentence like this in their lame press release tells it all: The City of Detroit remains an important part of the planning process for presenting the commercially-owned DEMF as an annual event hosted at Hart Plaza. Oh yeah? Well, guess what, Carol, you LOST the bid and as we used to say in high school after nailing a jump shot over a chump, in your face you disgrace! Now, older and more mature, I would call this an undeclared assertion (support from the city) to a nonexistent object (commercially-owned DEMF annual event). All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay her off so she'll go away. The Hearns thing is particularly cynical. It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl Craig I'd say, see you in court -- if you dare. And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would allow rebuilding the brand in a direction more true to the real meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit. Fred PS On a side note, what's EFF doing mixed up in all this? I could swear that was him I saw at the first DEMF, talking about how he's been in this for over 20 years and I still don't get no love, and it was definitely clear who he was talking about in terms of his scheduled time and stage location at the festival. But seriously, when it comes to the rivalries and all that, I prefer to say, I'm a fan. Let the music play. There will be an electronic music festival at Hart Plaza this May, I will be there, and it will all be good.
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All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay her off so she'll go away. The Hearns thing is particularly cynical. It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl Craig I'd say, see you in court -- if you dare. And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would allow rebuilding the brand in a direction more true to the real meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit. Metrotimes also has an article about this: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation. and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this if PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
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and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this if PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought I heard last year a bunch of detroit artist, that did not play the demf wanted to do a free event at the same time in washington square. they susposably got the go ahead from the city, but the police said they were to low on officers. so it never happened. this is what someone told me last year. I dont know how true the story is. anyone hear this? or something like it. starting rumors now. scotto lansing, mi. ps. lets not forget the pemf, hope that happens again. that was to dope sh*t last year. good jobs guys.
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A significant portion of the exhibit showcases the 1994 The World Party oh god, really?? Detroit music and underground party scene existed just fine on it's own before Marvin threw a Supersized Stadium Rave[TM] right in the heart of it during the World Cup. That just seemed s out of character for the city at that time. Despite the lineup I remember myself an lots of others making a conscious decision NOT to go. peace Matt MacQueen
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On 1/28/03 7:27 AM, Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Metrotimes also has an article about this: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation. D.I.E.M.F.? Die M-F? That's precious.
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Wow - look at this from the article As the party moves to the Roostertail for a night of thumping techno, the mayor's crew chuckles about Marvin's attempt to keep the festival. Kilpatrick's chief administrative officer, Derrick Miller, says Hearns, though a great guy, suggested the DEMF needs some classic RB acts. Classic RB acts? I know this festival is suppose to be about the music of Detroit but if you're going to open it up to classic RB then why not have some rock roll like The Dirtbombs and White Stripes fer chris'sake. Why we're at it let's add some big band jazz, country music, blues, and classical music. MEK Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org o.nlcc: Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... 01/28/03 06:27 AM All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay her off so she'll go away. The Hearns thing is particularly cynical. It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl Craig I'd say, see you in court -- if you dare. And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would allow rebuilding the brand in a direction more true to the real meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit. Metrotimes also has an article about this: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation. and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this if PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
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i think the operative word in that quote is chuckles. the whole thing is funny. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:56 AM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Wow - look at this from the article As the party moves to the Roostertail for a night of thumping techno, the mayor's crew chuckles about Marvin's attempt to keep the festival. Kilpatrick's chief administrative officer, Derrick Miller, says Hearns, though a great guy, suggested the DEMF needs some classic RB acts. Classic RB acts? I know this festival is suppose to be about the music of Detroit but if you're going to open it up to classic RB then why not have some rock roll like The Dirtbombs and White Stripes fer chris'sake. Why we're at it let's add some big band jazz, country music, blues, and classical music. MEK Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org o.nlcc: Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... 01/28/03 06:27 AM All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay her off so she'll go away. The Hearns thing is particularly cynical. It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl Craig I'd say, see you in court -- if you dare. And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would allow rebuilding the brand in a direction more true to the real meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit. Metrotimes also has an article about this: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation. and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this if PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, diana potts wrote: HOWever, I think it's really unfortunate that something that was so beautiful and community oriented in its beginning has turned into a somewhat monster of egos. What does this portray to people on the outside of Detroit, of its music community? Here is where I stand (for those who don't know). I'm happy that May and Craig fought for the demf, and got the right to produce the next one. Jumping for joy am I. really. But thinking of the DEMF as a bundle of resources (contracts, prestige, etc.), I think you're putting too fine a gloss over it. In as much as these resources are zero-sum (there are only so many contracts and prestige to go around), POLITICS ARE INVOLVED. When politics are involved, communities fracture. That's the name of the game. People have different interests. I wish those involved who are keeping the festival from progressing could put egos and self claims aside and see that this festival is and always was supposed to be about- showing people that Detroit, with all its bruised reputations, can take this music and turn it into something positive for the city. I believe Derrick and company still have this vision and could do it justice, as Carl did the first year. I really think they have a chance here for a clean slate and to start over from the beginning. To get the festival back to its roots of the first year and completely start over. If Carol is _truely_ for the community as she has said from the beginning in interviews and so forth, then she would relax and wish Derrick, and the city of Detroit the best. The concept of the community is a rhetorical device used to mobilize people for or against very specific projects. I'm sure that Marvin is no longer thinking of May and Craig when she talks about the community. I'm sure May and Craig aren't thinking about Marvin when THEY talk about the community. I know I'm not. This is politics. It isn't bad (contrary to popular belief). I actually think it is good that Detroiters are willing to fight and compete over something as glorious as this. peace lks
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Hell,why not book Kiss and Alice Cooper too? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:57 PM To: Jongsma, K.J. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... Wow - look at this from the article As the party moves to the Roostertail for a night of thumping techno, the mayor's crew chuckles about Marvin's attempt to keep the festival. Kilpatrick's chief administrative officer, Derrick Miller, says Hearns, though a great guy, suggested the DEMF needs some classic RB acts. Classic RB acts? I know this festival is suppose to be about the music of Detroit but if you're going to open it up to classic RB then why not have some rock roll like The Dirtbombs and White Stripes fer chris'sake. Why we're at it let's add some big band jazz, country music, blues, and classical music. MEK Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org o.nlcc: Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... 01/28/03 06:27 AM All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay her off so she'll go away. The Hearns thing is particularly cynical. It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl Craig I'd say, see you in court -- if you dare. And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would allow rebuilding the brand in a direction more true to the real meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit. Metrotimes also has an article about this: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation. and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this if PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 11:37 AM -0500 1/28/03, Ian wrote: A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation. D.I.E.M.F.? Die M-F? Personally, I'd like to see the acronym M.F.I.C. worked into this. Now *THAT* would be a sincerely Detroit reference. Music For International Cultures? Music From Inner Cities? heh. I hope Coleman's laughing at us all somewhere. -m
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Be nice to me -- I have friends in Detroit! fred -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:37:24 -0500 D.I.E.M.F.? Die M-F? That's precious.
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http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030124-044240-4419r A spokesman for DEMF Inc. said that the company will consider seeking an injunction against any Memorial Day festival with the DEMF name produced by anybody else. While May, Saunderson and Craig will handle many of the artistic decisions for the festival, the DEMF's primary point man will be Richard Maher of May's Detroit-based Transmat Records. May will actually be spending much of the next fourth months in Japan, where he was hired as the resident DJ at a new nightclub. Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. scotto lansing, mi.
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oi vey. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030124-044240-4419r A spokesman for DEMF Inc. said that the company will consider seeking an injunction against any Memorial Day festival with the DEMF name produced by anybody else. While May, Saunderson and Craig will handle many of the artistic decisions for the festival, the DEMF's primary point man will be Richard Maher of May's Detroit-based Transmat Records. May will actually be spending much of the next fourth months in Japan, where he was hired as the resident DJ at a new nightclub. Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. scotto lansing, mi. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. In addition to the festival, she promises that DEMF Inc. will build a world headquarters and a nightclub in Detroit, start an electronic music foundation, and produce a weekly radio show and a quarterly newsletter. lol watch out detroit! -Joe - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... oi vey. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030124-044240-4419r A spokesman for DEMF Inc. said that the company will consider seeking an injunction against any Memorial Day festival with the DEMF name produced by anybody else. While May, Saunderson and Craig will handle many of the artistic decisions for the festival, the DEMF's primary point man will be Richard Maher of May's Detroit-based Transmat Records. May will actually be spending much of the next fourth months in Japan, where he was hired as the resident DJ at a new nightclub. Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. scotto lansing, mi. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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she'll also be sponsoring an executive line of chauffeur-driven DEMF signature golf carts. - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. In addition to the festival, she promises that DEMF Inc. will build a world headquarters and a nightclub in Detroit, start an electronic music foundation, and produce a weekly radio show and a quarterly newsletter. lol watch out detroit! -Joe - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... oi vey. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030124-044240-4419r A spokesman for DEMF Inc. said that the company will consider seeking an injunction against any Memorial Day festival with the DEMF name produced by anybody else. While May, Saunderson and Craig will handle many of the artistic decisions for the festival, the DEMF's primary point man will be Richard Maher of May's Detroit-based Transmat Records. May will actually be spending much of the next fourth months in Japan, where he was hired as the resident DJ at a new nightclub. Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. scotto lansing, mi. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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Didn't I read somewhere that May had trademarked 'DEMF' awhile back, or something like that?? This all sounds a quite strange to me... m* - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... she'll also be sponsoring an executive line of chauffeur-driven DEMF signature golf carts. - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. In addition to the festival, she promises that DEMF Inc. will build a world headquarters and a nightclub in Detroit, start an electronic music foundation, and produce a weekly radio show and a quarterly newsletter. lol watch out detroit! -Joe - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... oi vey. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030124-044240-4419r A spokesman for DEMF Inc. said that the company will consider seeking an injunction against any Memorial Day festival with the DEMF name produced by anybody else. While May, Saunderson and Craig will handle many of the artistic decisions for the festival, the DEMF's primary point man will be Richard Maher of May's Detroit-based Transmat Records. May will actually be spending much of the next fourth months in Japan, where he was hired as the resident DJ at a new nightclub. Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. scotto lansing, mi. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
