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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname help please, Claudianno s of AntonioFelecianno, Santa Maria Island

2017-01-12 Thread Ângela Loura

Sam is there an image? I'm on my phone and i can't find it.
Can you send the link? 

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Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname help please, Claudianno s of 
AntonioFelecianno, Santa Maria Island

Need help with paternal grandparents last names please.  Bottom one.  I have 
Claudianno son of Antonio Felecianno and Francisca Umbelina, Born:  26 Mar 1828
Paternal Grands:  Jose Francisco ??? and Maria dos ???
Maternal Grands:  Antonio Jose de Figueiredo and  1st wife, Margarida Rosa
 
This will take me back another generation if I can get the last names.  
 
Thank you,
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Surname help please, Claudianno s of Antonio Felecianno, Santa Maria Island

2017-01-12 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy

Need help with paternal grandparents last names please.  Bottom one.  I have 
Claudianno son of Antonio Felecianno and Francisca Umbelina, Born:  26 Mar 1828
Paternal Grands:  Jose Francisco ??? and Maria dos ???
Maternal Grands:  Antonio Jose de Figueiredo and  1st wife, Margarida Rosa

This will take me back another generation if I can get the last names.  

Thank you,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help verifying names: Alferes Joam Soares de Figueiredo y Maria de Braga, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria

2017-01-11 Thread nancy jean baptiste

Interesting, I have a Capitao Mauricio de Sousa Meneses..from Santa Barbara, 
Santa Mariaclose names...maybe same family.


Nancy Jean


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help verifying names: Alferes Joam Soares de 
Figueiredo y Maria de Braga, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria

Nov 5- 1733. You can verify date by nex record which is more discernible. He 
was named after godfather, Alferes, Luis de Figueiredo and godmother, Dona 
Maria de Andrade mulher de Capt Mauricio de Souza

JR

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Middle of left page;  While looking for the birth of Dona Isabel de Conception 
de Figueiredo, I think I found her brother.  Does this record say Luis son of 
the above couple?  Born 5 October 1736?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745_item1/P42.html

As always, thanks in advance for your help,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with mother's last name

2017-01-07 Thread Liz Migliori

Absolutely 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2017, at 5:08 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> my pleasure!
> 
> I think there must be a genealogical corollary to Murphy's law which states: 
> On a page of neatly written entries and one illegible entry, yours will be 
> the illegible one.
> 
> good luck in your research,
> 
> :D
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 4:38:36 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>> Linda- thank you so much for looking and confirming what I think it is.  
>> I've been studying this priest's handwriting in other records.  
>> 
>> I appreciate your help very much
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 6:04 PM, linda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It looks like Carvalha to me.  I see as follows: 
>>> 
>>> C-a-r-v [descender from line above+ascender of h from line below] l+sloppy 
>>> h-a
>>> 
>>> "r" looks like the "r" in Maria
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
 On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 2:20:31 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
 Right page 2nd one down
 
 I think it is Carvalha.  Can someone confirm, please.  If it's not 
 Carvalha, then it's not the right couple.  I understand the child is named 
 Mecia.  (First time I've seen that name)
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P113.html
 
 
 Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with mother's last name

2017-01-07 Thread Maria Lima

Yeah!  You noticed that, too?   I'm laughing here

Maria Elena 

> On Jan 7, 2017, at 7:08 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> my pleasure!
> 
> I think there must be a genealogical corollary to Murphy's law which states: 
> On a page of neatly written entries and one illegible entry, yours will be 
> the illegible one.
> 
> good luck in your research,
> 
> :D
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 4:38:36 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>> Linda- thank you so much for looking and confirming what I think it is.  
>> I've been studying this priest's handwriting in other records.  
>> 
>> I appreciate your help very much
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 6:04 PM, linda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It looks like Carvalha to me.  I see as follows: 
>>> 
>>> C-a-r-v [descender from line above+ascender of h from line below] l+sloppy 
>>> h-a
>>> 
>>> "r" looks like the "r" in Maria
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
 On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 2:20:31 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
 Right page 2nd one down
 
 I think it is Carvalha.  Can someone confirm, please.  If it's not 
 Carvalha, then it's not the right couple.  I understand the child is named 
 Mecia.  (First time I've seen that name)
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P113.html
 
 
 Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with mother's last name

2017-01-07 Thread linda



my pleasure!

I think there must be a genealogical corollary to Murphy's law which 
states: On a page of neatly written entries and one illegible entry, yours 
will be the illegible one.

good luck in your research,

:D

Linda


On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 4:38:36 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>
> Linda- thank you so much for looking and confirming what I think it is. 
>  I've been studying this priest's handwriting in other records.  
>
> I appreciate your help very much
>
> Maria Elena 
>
> On Jan 7, 2017, at 6:04 PM, linda  
> wrote:
>
> It looks like Carvalha to me.  I see as follows: 
>
> C-a-r-v [descender from line above+ascender of h from line below] l+sloppy 
> h-a
>
> "r" looks like the "r" in Maria
>
> :)
>
> Linda
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 2:20:31 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>>
>> Right page 2nd one down
>>
>> I think it is Carvalha.  Can someone confirm, please.  If it's not 
>> Carvalha, then it's not the right couple.  I understand the child is named 
>> Mecia.  (First time I've seen that name)
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P113.html
>>
>>
>> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with mother's last name

2017-01-07 Thread Maria Lima

Linda- thank you so much for looking and confirming what I think it is.  I've 
been studying this priest's handwriting in other records.  

I appreciate your help very much

Maria Elena 

> On Jan 7, 2017, at 6:04 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> It looks like Carvalha to me.  I see as follows: 
> 
> C-a-r-v [descender from line above+ascender of h from line below] l+sloppy h-a
> 
> "r" looks like the "r" in Maria
> 
> :)
> 
> Linda
> 
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 2:20:31 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>> Right page 2nd one down
>> 
>> I think it is Carvalha.  Can someone confirm, please.  If it's not Carvalha, 
>> then it's not the right couple.  I understand the child is named Mecia.  
>> (First time I've seen that name)
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P113.html
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with mother's last name

2017-01-07 Thread linda

It looks like Carvalha to me.  I see as follows: 

C-a-r-v [descender from line above+ascender of h from line below] l+sloppy 
h-a

"r" looks like the "r" in Maria

:)

Linda

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 2:20:31 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>
> Right page 2nd one down
>
> I think it is Carvalha.  Can someone confirm, please.  If it's not 
> Carvalha, then it's not the right couple.  I understand the child is named 
> Mecia.  (First time I've seen that name)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1678-1707_item1/P113.html
>
>
> Maria Elena 
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help verifying names: Alferes Joam Soares de Figueiredo y Maria de Braga, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria

2017-01-07 Thread JR

Nov 5- 1733. You can verify date by nex record which is more discernible. 
He was named after godfather, Alferes, Luis de Figueiredo and godmother, 
Dona Maria de Andrade mulher de Capt Mauricio de Souza

JR

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 1:16:25 PM UTC-5, apor...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Middle of left page;  While looking for the birth of Dona Isabel de 
> Conception de Figueiredo, I think I found her brother.  Does this record 
> say Luis son of the above couple?  Born 5 October 1736?
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745_item1/P42.html
>
>  
>
> As always, thanks in advance for your help,
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin help please. 1708 Marriage of Joam Soares de Figueiredo y Maria de Braga

2017-01-06 Thread Ângela Loura

"tirei certidão"

2017-01-07 1:55 GMT+00:00 aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com>:

> It’s the one on the right side and if anyone can decipher the side
> margins, I would be grateful!  I can read enough of the body to know they
> are mine.  I can read all the pertinent information of date 20 May 1708 as
> well as both sets of parents.
>
>
>
> Would love to know if the margins tell anything of value.
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P79.html
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin help please. 1708 Marriage of Joam Soares de Figueiredo y Maria de Braga

2017-01-06 Thread Cheri Mello

Top right margin: Looks like they had a certificate issued in 1808
Bottom right margin: Looks like they had a certificate issued on 22 Jan
1830-something.  It could be 1836. The worms were enjoying the carbs right
there.
Left margin 1st one: Looks like they had a certificate issued 2 July 1841
Left margin 2nd one: Looks like they had a certificate issued 4 Dec 1830.
Bottom of page: Looks like they had a certificate issued 30 July 1836 or
1830.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 5:55 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> It’s the one on the right side and if anyone can decipher the side
> margins, I would be grateful!  I can read enough of the body to know they
> are mine.  I can read all the pertinent information of date 20 May 1708 as
> well as both sets of parents.
>
>
>
> Would love to know if the margins tell anything of value.
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P79.html
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Margin help please. 1708 Marriage of Joam Soares de Figueiredo y Maria de Braga

2017-01-06 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy

It’s the one on the right side and if anyone can decipher the side margins, I 
would be grateful!  I can read enough of the body to know they are mine.  I can 
read all the pertinent information of date 20 May 1708 as well as both sets of 
parents. 

 Would love to know if the margins tell anything of value.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P79.html

Thank you in advance,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help translating Machado Texiera birth on Sao Jorge

2017-01-05 Thread linda

Hi Sam,

Here's what I see:

M.el filho de Jozeph Machado de Souza e de Sua M.er Maria [Netta?] natu-
rais m.ors freguzes da Parochial de Apostolo S. Tiago Lugar da [??] secca
termo da villa da Calheta da Ilha de Sam George, nascio aos deSouto dias do 
mes
de outubro do anno de mil e Sep[t?]eCentos e quatorze e foy bap[t?]iSado 
nesta d.a
Parochial por mim Anto Homem Vig.io della aos vintehum do d.o mes
e anno [Eras?] padrinhos [Thome? g.ro? F/Tig.ro?] e Anna do Roserio 
[Li???/sua m.er??] m.ors 
freguezes deste mesmo Lugar Parochial do [?] este termo I.da asigno com 
test.tes
prezentes M.el de Sousa [do?] L?u.? e Fran.co de Souza Teix.a die, mense et 
annis [Latin! day, month and year]
ut supra

signatures look like Francisco d Sousa Teix.ra and Manoel d Souza []

hope it helps,

:)

Linda

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>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1698-1716_item1/P194.html
>
>  
>
> This one is really tough for me.  If anyone can verify or correct what “I 
> think” I see on this document, I would greatly appreciate it!
>
>  
>
> Manoel
>
> 18 October 1714
>
> Son of Jose de Machado de Souza and Maria Netta ???
>
> Manoel son of Jose de Machado de Souza and his wife, Maria Netta ?? 
> residents of the Parochial Parish of the Apostle Sao Tiago, place of 
> Reberia Seca, village of Calheta, island of Sao Jorge, born on the 18 day 
> of October in the year of 1714, was baptized in this Parochial by me, ??? 
> Homen, priest on the 21st of this month and year. Godfather was Tome de 
> ?? and Anna de Rosario Livor??, resident of this same parish Parochial 
> place of ?? ? Manoel de Souza ? Francisco de Souza Texiera, 
> day, month and year as above.
>
>  
>
>  
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread Joanne Mercier

One and the same. I descend from their son, Manuel Alvares Costa, whose
daughter Maria Francesa married my 4GGrandfather Mathias de Medeiros Calvo.
It would seem my paternal side is very entrenched in Bretanha.

Joanne

On January 2, 2017 at 10:46:05 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*Is this Catarina Carvalho Aguiar married to Antonio de Alveres Cordoso?
If so they are my 7th great grandparents.*

*Rick*

*From:* 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com]

*Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2017 10:35 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

It is indeed.

Joanne, do you have info on Catarina's marriage? I only have the info for
Antonia and her descendants.

On Monday, January 2, 2017 10:30 PM, Joanne Mercier <
musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok - your 6GGrandparents are my 6G Uncle and Aunt. Antonia’s sister,
Catarina de Carvalho Aguiar is who I decsend from on my paternal side. It
IS a small world indeed!

Joanne

On January 2, 2017 at 10:10:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*Antonia de Carvalho married Alexio de Medeiros on 23 Jun 1717 in Ajuda,
The record is there but I will have to look for it. Alexio and Antonia are
my 6th Great Grandparents. I descend from their son Alexandre de Medeiros
and Luzia Cabral.*

*Rick*

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Of *Joanne Mercier
*Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2017 9:38 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

Don't think that one is part of my clan then. I have an Alexio de Medeiros
married to an Antonia Carvalho and I am looking for their ancestors and
desecdents. Thanks for the clarification, Rick.

On January 2, 2017 at 9:18:38 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741*

*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
Of *Joanne Mercier
*Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2017 8:32 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html

I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the
rest of the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this
tricky one will be most greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel

Is this Catarina Carvalho Aguiar  married to Antonio de Alveres Cordoso? If so 
they are my 7th great grandparents.

Rick

From: 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 10:35 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de 
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

It is indeed. 

Joanne, do you have info on Catarina's marriage? I only have the info for 
Antonia and her descendants.

On Monday, January 2, 2017 10:30 PM, Joanne Mercier <musicmavene...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Ok - your 6GGrandparents are my 6G Uncle and Aunt. Antonia’s sister, Catarina 
de Carvalho Aguiar is who I decsend from on my paternal side. It IS a small 
world indeed!

Joanne 

On January 2, 2017 at 10:10:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

Antonia de Carvalho married Alexio de Medeiros on 23 Jun 1717 in Ajuda, The 
record is there but I will have to look for it. Alexio and Antonia are my 6th 
Great Grandparents. I descend from their son Alexandre de Medeiros and Luzia 
Cabral.

Rick

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:38 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de 
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

Don't think that one is part of my clan then. I have an Alexio de Medeiros 
married to an Antonia Carvalho and I am looking for their ancestors and 
desecdents. Thanks for the clarification, Rick.

On January 2, 2017 at 9:18:38 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 8:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros 
and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

Left page - top of page

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html

I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the rest of 
the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this tricky one 
will be most greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy

It is indeed. 
Joanne, do you have info on Catarina's marriage? I only have the info for 
Antonia and her descendants.

On Monday, January 2, 2017 10:30 PM, Joanne Mercier 
<musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 #yiv8002422258 body{font-family:Helvetica, Arial;font-size:13px;}Ok - your 
6GGrandparents are my 6G Uncle and Aunt. Antonia’s sister, Catarina de Carvalho 
Aguiar is who I decsend from on my paternal side. It IS a small world indeed!
Joanne  
  
On January 2, 2017 at 10:10:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote: 
Antonia de Carvalho married Alexio de Medeiros on 23 Jun 1717 in Ajuda, The 
record is there but I will have to look for it. Alexio and Antonia are my 6th 
Great Grandparents. I descend from their son Alexandre de Medeiros and Luzia 
Cabral. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Joanne Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:38 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de 
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741? Don't think that one is part of 
my clan then. I have an Alexio de Medeiros married to an Antonia Carvalho and I 
am looking for their ancestors and desecdents. Thanks for the clarification, 
Rick.On January 2, 2017 at 9:18:38 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:
Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741 From: 
azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne 
Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 8:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread Joanne Mercier

Ok - your 6GGrandparents are my 6G Uncle and Aunt. Antonia’s sister,
Catarina de Carvalho Aguiar is who I decsend from on my paternal side. It
IS a small world indeed!

Joanne

On January 2, 2017 at 10:10:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*Rick*

Don't think that one is part of my clan then. I have an Alexio de Medeiros
married to an Antonia Carvalho and I am looking for their ancestors and
desecdents. Thanks for the clarification, Rick.

On January 2, 2017 at 9:18:38 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

*Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741*

Left page - top of page

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html

I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the
rest of the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this
tricky one will be most greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel

Antonia de Carvalho married Alexio de Medeiros on 23 Jun 1717 in Ajuda, The 
record is there but I will have to look for it. Alexio and Antonia are my 6th 
Great Grandparents. I descend from their son Alexandre de Medeiros and Luzia 
Cabral.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:38 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de 
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

 

Don't think that one is part of my clan then. I have an Alexio de Medeiros 
married to an Antonia Carvalho and I am looking for their ancestors and 
desecdents. Thanks for the clarification, Rick.

On January 2, 2017 at 9:18:38 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 8:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros 
and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

 

Left page - top of page

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html

 

 

I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the rest of 
the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this tricky one 
will be most greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy

Alexis de Medeiros is my 6th great grandfather. He married Antonia Oliveira 
Carvalho in Bretanha on June 23, 1717. That record is in the marriages book of 
that period, however, it is out of place.

Aleixo's parents are Manuel Alves or Alvares Calvo and Maria de Oliveira.

Antonia's parents are Manuel de Oliveira and Maria de Oliveira Carvalho





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> 
> 
> I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the rest 
> of the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this tricky 
> one will be most greatly appreciated.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread Joanne Mercier

Don't think that one is part of my clan then. I have an Alexio de Medeiros
married to an Antonia Carvalho and I am looking for their ancestors and
desecdents. Thanks for the clarification, Rick.

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rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:

> *Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741*
>
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> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Joanne Mercier
> *Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2017 8:32 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de
> Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?
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> I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the
> rest of the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this
> tricky one will be most greatly appreciated.
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> Thanks!
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel

Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 8:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros 
and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

Left page - top of page

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html

I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the rest of 
the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this tricky one 
will be most greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Joanne Grota Mercier

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

2017-01-02 Thread Joanne Mercier

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html


I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the
rest of the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this
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Thanks!
Joanne Grota Mercier

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help filling in some blanks Bernardino, of Soares and Figueiredo

2016-12-10 Thread linda

Hi,

I have some of the same names (Souza de Figueredo, Meneses, Soares and 
Curvelo/Corvelho) in one section of my tree (Villa do Porto, Santa Maria), 
and I think we probably connect a generation or two back from this record.  
Perhaps we already chatted about that a while back?

Anyway, this is how I read the record:

Bernardino filho de Joze Soares, e de Sua molher Donna Izabel
de Figueiredo naturais desta Parochial da Glorioza Santa Barbara
desta Ilha de  Santa Maria moradores no Lugar do Norte nasces
em os nove dias do mes de Julho de mil Sette annos Sincoenta  e outo
foi baptizado em os dezaseis dias do ditto mes, e anno por mim Fran-
cisco de Miranda vigario desta Parochial de Seus Pays nella: foi
Padrinho Ignacio de Souza de Figueirdo Homem Solteiro filho do
Alferes Joao Soares de Figuerido, que Deus tem e Madrinha Donna
Francisca dos Reys filha do ditto Alferes molher solteira: foram
Testemunhos o Capitam Mauricio de Souza Menezes, Manoel
Joze Coelho [Corvelho??], Solteiro filho de Marianna Coelha [Corvelha??] 
viuva moradores nesta
freguezia, que comigo aSignaram dia, mes, e anno Supra

Vigr.o Fran.co d[e] Miranda
[and two witness signatures]


This is how I interpret it (sections which you wrote "???" I've put into 
red):

Bernardino son of Jose Soares, and of his wife Dona Isabel
de Figueiredo natives of this Parish of Glorious Santa Barbara
of this island of Santa Maria [and] living in the place [neighborhood] of 
the North, born
on the 9th of the month of July of 1758
He was baptised on the 16th of the same month and year by me Fran-
cisco de Miranda vicar of this Parish in which his parents reside;
[the] Godfather was Ignacio de Souza de Figueiredo [a] single man [and the] 
son of
Alfares Joao Soares, who God has [i.e., who is deceased] and [the] 
Godmother [was] Dona
Francisca dos Reis daughter of the same Alfares [Joao Soares de Figueiredo] a 
single woman; 
[the] witnesses [were] the Captain Mauricio de Souza Meneses, Manoel 
Joze [Corvelho], single son of Marianna [Corvelha] widow [who both] live in 
this 
village, who signed [this document] along with me [on the] above day month 
and year

Vicar Francisco de Miranda

The first signature is probably Mauricio de Souza Meneses
Manoel Jose Corvelho

Coelho vs. Corvelho: In the body of the record, the name in question looks 
like "Coelho" to me too, but I believe it's more likely to be Corvelho.  
The witness signature looks more like Corvelho to me, and it's a name 
that's very common in Santa Barbara parish.

hope this helps,

:)

Linda




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> Bernadino 
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> 9 July 1758
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> Son of Jose Soares y Donna Izabel de Figueiredo
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> Bernadino son of Jose Soares and of his wife, Izabel de Figueiredo, 
> natives of this parochial of Gloria Santa Barbara of this island of Santa 
> Maria, residents of the place of Norte, born on the 9th day of the month 
> of July 1758. Was baptized on the 12th day of the same month and year by 
> me, Francisco de Miranda vicar of this parochial of our  ?. For 
> godfather, Ignacio de Souza de Figueiredo ???, single, son of Alferes 
> (Ensign) Joao Soares de Figueiredo   . Godmother, Donna Francisca 
> dos ???, daughter of same Alferes  . For witnesses, Captain 
> Mauricio de Sousa , Manoel Jose Coelho, single, son of Marianna Coelho, 
> widow, resident of this same parish that with me signed day, month and year 
> as above.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with parent's names in marriage record

2016-12-10 Thread Amy Francis


>
> Thank you, I thought it was missing the father's name.  Thanks for the 
>> clarification of Maria as widower, I did not catch that.
>>
>
Amy 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with parent's names in marriage record

2016-12-10 Thread Philippe Garnier

Hi Amy,

Manoel da Costa "mariante" filho e sua molher M.a de Souza ja defuntos com 
M.a Botelha veuvia de M.el de Medeiros guerreiro sepultado na Matrix de Sam 
Miguel onde os contrahentes forao Baptizados ...

 

Manoel da Costa "mariante" son and his wife M.a de Souza died with M.a 
Botelha widower of M.el de Medeiros guerreiro burried in Matrix de Sam 
Miguel were the contractants were baptized ...

The name of the Manoel's father is not written.


Best regards


Philippe Garnier

Paris - France

http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira

Le samedi 10 décembre 2016 20:07:16 UTC+1, Amy Francis a écrit :
>
> I am having a hard time deciphering the handwriting in this marriage 
> record from Sao Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo, if someone could help again, 
> thank you so much.  I think I can read one of the parent's names out of the 
> four - the father of the bride - Manuel de Medeiros.  
>
> It is the marriage of Manuel da Costa and Maria Boteilha, bottom left. 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P80.html
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...

2016-12-09 Thread Ângela Loura

Just a curiosity: the guy that owns the driving school at Vila do Porto
descends from this Simplício

2016-12-05 12:43 GMT+00:00 George Sousa :

> Thanks JR!
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM, JR  wrote:
>
>> bap seis horas de dia dois de dito mez e annoPat- Simplicio Joaquim
>> de Moura and Maria Jacintha de Chaves de dita freguezia; Mat Antonio Joze
>> de Carvalho and Roza Jacintha naturais de referida freguezia. Pad- Antonio
>> J.e (Joze) de Chaves e Antonia de Chaves, irmaos de pai de baptizado,
>> moradores no mesmo termo...
>>
>> JR
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:36:50 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>>
>>> In the following record (top of left page)...
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_i
>>> tem1/P18.html
>>>
>>> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father?
>>> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather?
>>>
>>> Here is what I have so far:
>>>
>>> Name: Jose
>>> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860
>>> Date of birth: November 2, 1860
>>> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves
>>> Father's Occupation: ?
>>> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves
>>> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura
>>> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves
>>> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho
>>> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

2016-12-05 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel

According to the marriage record Victoria is from Agua Retorto as is her 
parents. I would look for the marriage of her parents in Agua Retorto and then 
look for her baptism after I found the parents' marriage in the same place.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores



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Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 3:16 PM
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html

this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of 
page and continued next page]

i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html

i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of 
Francisco de Souza   and Guiteria de Medeiros

i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either

am i searching in the correct book?

thanks

Carmen


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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

2016-12-05 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html

this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of 
page and continued next page]

i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html

i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of 
Francisco de Souza   and Guiteria de Medeiros

i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either

am i searching in the correct book?

thanks

Carmen
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...

2016-12-05 Thread George Sousa

Thanks JR!

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM, JR  wrote:

> bap seis horas de dia dois de dito mez e annoPat- Simplicio Joaquim de
> Moura and Maria Jacintha de Chaves de dita freguezia; Mat Antonio Joze de
> Carvalho and Roza Jacintha naturais de referida freguezia. Pad- Antonio J.e
> (Joze) de Chaves e Antonia de Chaves, irmaos de pai de baptizado, moradores
> no mesmo termo...
>
> JR
>
>
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:36:50 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>
>> In the following record (top of left page)...
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html
>>
>> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father?
>> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather?
>>
>> Here is what I have so far:
>>
>> Name: Jose
>> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860
>> Date of birth: November 2, 1860
>> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves
>> Father's Occupation: ?
>> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves
>> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura
>> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves
>> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho
>> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> George
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...

2016-12-05 Thread Joe Matias

I see Simplicio Joaquim

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM, JR  wrote:

> bap seis horas de dia dois de dito mez e annoPat- Simplicio Joaquim de
> Moura and Maria Jacintha de Chaves de dita freguezia; Mat Antonio Joze de
> Carvalho and Roza Jacintha naturais de referida freguezia. Pad- Antonio J.e
> (Joze) de Chaves e Antonia de Chaves, irmaos de pai de baptizado, moradores
> no mesmo termo...
>
> JR
>
>
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:36:50 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>
>> In the following record (top of left page)...
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html
>>
>> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father?
>> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather?
>>
>> Here is what I have so far:
>>
>> Name: Jose
>> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860
>> Date of birth: November 2, 1860
>> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves
>> Father's Occupation: ?
>> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves
>> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura
>> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves
>> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho
>> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> George
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...

2016-12-04 Thread JR

bap seis horas de dia dois de dito mez e annoPat- Simplicio Joaquim de 
Moura and Maria Jacintha de Chaves de dita freguezia; Mat Antonio Joze de 
Carvalho and Roza Jacintha naturais de referida freguezia. Pad- Antonio J.e 
(Joze) de Chaves e Antonia de Chaves, irmaos de pai de baptizado, moradores 
no mesmo termo...

JR

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:36:50 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>
> In the following record (top of left page)...
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html
>
> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father?
> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather?
>
> Here is what I have so far:
>
> Name: Jose
> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860
> Date of birth: November 2, 1860
> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves
> Father's Occupation: ?
> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves
> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura
> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves
> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho 
> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> George
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...

2016-12-04 Thread George Sousa

Thank you Linda! I should be able to confirm the name of the paternal 
grandfather... I'll keep looking.

> On Dec 4, 2016, at 8:19 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> 
> For the father's occupation, I see "siareiro", a grain grower-- most likely 
> wheat, I believe.  Santa Maria has the driest climate of the islands, and is 
> the only one that had any significant amount of cereal production.
> 
> The paternal grandfather's first name looks like "Simplicio" to me, but I've 
> never seen that before and don't know if it could be right or not.
> 
> hope that helps,
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-8, George Sousa wrote:
>> In the following record (top of left page)...
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html
>> 
>> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father?
>> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather?
>> 
>> Here is what I have so far:
>> 
>> Name: Jose
>> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860
>> Date of birth: November 2, 1860
>> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves
>> Father's Occupation: ?
>> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves
>> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura
>> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves
>> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho 
>> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> George
>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...

2016-12-04 Thread linda


For the father's occupation, I see "siareiro", a grain grower-- most likely 
wheat, I believe.  Santa Maria has the driest climate of the islands, and 
is the only one that had any significant amount of cereal production.

The paternal grandfather's first name looks like "Simplicio" to me, but 
I've never seen that before and don't know if it could be right or not.

hope that helps,

Linda


On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-8, George Sousa wrote:
>
> In the following record (top of left page)...
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html
>
> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father?
> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather?
>
> Here is what I have so far:
>
> Name: Jose
> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860
> Date of birth: November 2, 1860
> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves
> Father's Occupation: ?
> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves
> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura
> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves
> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho 
> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> George
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-12-04 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

hi jr

thanks

i didn't get a chance to look in those other places yet but will do tomorrow

Carmen 

  
   
    


On Sat, 12/3/16, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Saturday, December 3, 2016, 11:44 PM
 
 Yes, there
 is a problem. Maria is not to be found on the prescribed
 date of Nov 30- 1793. And her parents are not in the
 expected period. Suggest you look in Povoacao, then
 Nordestinho and Achada. Jose de Aguiar is from Achada and
 married in Nordestinho. But frankly, I suspect error on part
 of priest. 
 Manuel de
 Aguiar, bap 22
 May 1788 in
 Nordestinho, res Faial da Terra. 
 He was the son of 4. Jose de Aguiar and 5. Josefa
 Pereira.  He married 3. Maria de Pimentel de
 Resendes 02 Dec
 1812 in Faial da
 Terra, NS da Graca. 
 
 
 Maria de
 Pimentel de Resendes, bap 30 Nov 1793 in Faial da Terra, NS da Graca. 
 She was the daughter of 6. Antonio de Pimentel and
 7. Antonia
 Marquia ? [probably Margarida or Marques.]
 JR
 
 
 On
 Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 5:57:06 PM UTC-5, carmen
 furtado wrote: http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P69.html
 
   
 
 can't find maria de pimentel's
 baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 1787-1812 
 
 
 
 1791 starts here
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787- 1812_item1/P16.html
 
 
 
 also couldn't find her parents'
 marriage
 
 
 
 is there another parish to search?
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
    
 
     
 
 
 
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 via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 
  To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P69.html
 
  
 
  left side
 
  
 
  manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel
 
  
 
  his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho
 + Josefa Perreira -
 
  Nordestinho
 
  
 
  his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho,
 Nordeste
 
  
 
  his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja
 de São Pedro,
 
  Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
  
 
  marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de
 Nossa Senhora da
 
  Penha de França, Água Retorta
 
  
 
  her parents - António de Pimentel -
 Faial da Terra +
 
  Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra
 
  
 
  her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da
 Terra
 
  
 
  her christening - November 30, 1793 -
 Igreja de Nossa
 
  Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra
 
  
 
  i'm taking a wild guess on this
 translation
 
  
 
  please correct my mistakes
 
  
 
  what is the word after maria de pimentel
 and before
 
  filha  
 
  
 
  i could not find a baptism for maria
 
  
 
  where would i look for manoel and
 maria's deaths?
 
  
 
  thank you
 
  
 
  carmen
 
    
 
     
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-12-03 Thread JR

Yes, there is a problem. Maria is not to be found on the prescribed date of 
Nov 30- 1793. And her parents are not in the expected period. Suggest you 
look in Povoacao, then Nordestinho and Achada. Jose de Aguiar is from 
Achada and married in Nordestinho. But frankly, I suspect error on part of 
priest. 

*Manuel de Aguiar,* bap 22 May 1788 in Nordestinho, res Faial da Terra.  He 
was the son of *4. Jose de Aguiar* and *5. Josefa Pereira*.  He married *3. 
Maria de Pimentel de Resendes* 02 Dec 1812 in Faial da Terra, NS da Graca.


M*aria de Pimentel de Resendes,* bap 30 Nov 1793 in Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca.  She was the daughter of *6. Antonio de Pimentel* and *7. Antonia 
Marquia ? [probably Margarida or Marques*.]


JR



On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 5:57:06 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
>  
>   
> can't find maria de pimentel's baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 
> 1787-1812 
>
> 1791 starts here 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812_item1/P16.html
>  
>
> also couldn't find her parents' marriage 
>
> is there another parish to search? 
>
> thanks 
>
> Carmen 
> 
> 
>
>  
> On Tue, 10/18/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: 
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION 
>  To: azo...@googlegroups.com  
>  Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM 
>   
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
>  
>   
>  left side 
>   
>  manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel 
>   
>  his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira - 
>  Nordestinho 
>   
>  his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho, Nordeste 
>   
>  his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro, 
>  Nordestinho, Nordeste 
>   
>  marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da 
>  Penha de França, Água Retorta 
>   
>  her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra + 
>  Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra 
>   
>  her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra 
>   
>  her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa 
>  Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra 
>   
>  i'm taking a wild guess on this translation 
>   
>  please correct my mistakes 
>   
>  what is the word after maria de pimentel and before 
>  filha  
>   
>  i could not find a baptism for maria 
>   
>  where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths? 
>   
>  thank you 
>   
>  carmen 
>
> 
>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with name of male on marriage certificate please

2016-12-03 Thread Cathy Bourgeois

Does this say Thome Martins as the male marrying Margarida dos Anjos,
please?


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P20.html


Bottom right.

Thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-12-03 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
  
can't find maria de pimentel's baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 1787-1812 

1791 starts here

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812_item1/P16.html

also couldn't find her parents' marriage

is there another parish to search?

thanks

Carmen
   
    


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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
 
 left side
 
 manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel
 
 his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira -
 Nordestinho
 
 his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
 his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro,
 Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
 marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da
 Penha de França, Água Retorta
 
 her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra +
 Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra
 
 her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra
 
 her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa
 Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra
 
 i'm taking a wild guess on this translation
 
 please correct my mistakes
 
 what is the word after maria de pimentel and before
 filha  
 
 i could not find a baptism for maria
 
 where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths?
 
 thank you
 
 carmen
   
    
     
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Obito - Sebastiao Mendonca, of Sao Mateus, Pico

2016-11-30 Thread Sue Q

This priest's handwriting is very difficult to read so I can't be of much 
help, but I do believe the name is Sebastiao de Mendoca, married man, 
although I can see where it named his wife. I think at the end of the 3rd 
line, extending into the 4th, it says he received the sacraments  probabaly 
of the inferm, but I can't make it out clearly. It also says in the 4th 
line that he left a will but I can't make out what all the names are and 
what they mean. I believe what follows below may be listing what he left. I 
see 120 somethings for his soul, thousand reis He was interred in the 
church of the Apostolo de São Mateus, where he was a parishioner. Very 
difficult to read. So sorry I can't be of more help but I'm sure someone 
else can add a lot more. Good luck!

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 2:19:33 PM UTC-8, Mary Pimentel Wheeler 
wrote:
>
> I could use a little help with this one.Left page, the bottom entry:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1671-1733/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1671-1733_item1/P58.html
> I believe, but wish to confirm, that this is the obito for Sebastiao 
> Mendonca.  The way the name is written is a little strange to me, it looks 
> like Seb.am, so I'm not sure it is him but think so.  The date ties with 
> what is on the UMinho site.  
>
> Date of death is 09 Oct 1719, and his age is 65 years more or less.  
> Beyond that, I cannot make out much of what it is saying.  If anyone can 
> pick out any other pertinent facts or names,  I would appreciate the help.  
>
> thank you,
>
> Mary 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help conpleting Óbito translation

2016-11-22 Thread Sue Q

Thank you, Philippe. Your help is much appreciated!

Sue

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:38:09 PM UTC-8, Philippe Garnier wrote:
>
> Hi Sue,
>
> See on your text.
>
> Best regards
>
> Philippe Garnier
> Paris - France
>
>
> http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira
>
>
>
> Le mercredi 23 novembre 2016 00:21:34 UTC+1, Sue Q a écrit :
>>
>> I've got most of this but there are some words towards the end that I 
>> can't figure out:
>>
>>
>> On the twenty-third day of the month of November of 1829 at the age of 
>> 80, more or less, died Maria Josefa, widow of Manuel de Bettencourt, 
>> resident on the Fontes Road, did not receive the divine sacraments *He 
>> died very quickly and no time to receive the divine sacraments (por ser 
>> quase repentinha sua morte) **(I know what follows says something about 
>> her death but I can’t tell exactly what it says from the remainder of the 
>> 5th line to the middle of the 6th)* was buried in this church of Santa 
>> Cruz da Graciosa, *I’m missing what it says after this and up through 
>> the second to last line. where he was accompanied from here to the town 
>> entry by the "Collegio" of this Church *
>>
>>
>> Maria Josefa, on the left page, top entry:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833_item1/P39.html
>>
>>
>> Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>>
>>
>> Sue 
>>
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help conpleting Óbito translation

2016-11-22 Thread Sue Q

Thank you so much, Linda. That helps me a lot!

Sue

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:50:52 PM UTC-8, linda wrote:
>
> Hi Sue,
>
> I see "...os Divinos Sacrament.os Ig.r ser quase repentina sua morte..." 
> and with google translate's help, I interpret that as "the Divine 
> Sacraments of the Church [because] her death was nearly sudden".  I can't 
> transliterate the second section that you asked about, but my impression is 
> it says something along the lines of:  "she was accompanied by 
> [someone/representative] from the town, from the Reverendo Collegio of the 
> Matriz"--that is,someone from one of the lay brotherhoods whose members 
> participated in religious ceremonies went with her body as it was carried 
> to her grave.  Perhaps someone with a better eye can confirm or correct 
> this.
>
> hope that helps,
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 3:21:34 PM UTC-8, Sue Q wrote:
>>
>> I've got most of this but there are some words towards the end that I 
>> can't figure out:
>>
>>
>> On the twenty-third day of the month of November of 1829 at the age of 
>> 80, more or less, died Maria Josefa, widow of Manuel de Bettencourt, 
>> resident on the Fontes Road, did not receive the divine sacraments *(I 
>> know what follows says something about her death but I can’t tell exactly 
>> what it says from the remainder of the 5th line to the middle of the 6th)* 
>> was buried in this church of Santa Cruz da Graciosa, *I’m missing what 
>> it says after this and up through the second to last line.*
>>
>>
>> Maria Josefa, on the left page, top entry:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833_item1/P39.html
>>
>>
>> Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>>
>>
>> Sue 
>>
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help conpleting Óbito translation

2016-11-22 Thread Philippe Garnier

Hi Sue,

See on your text.

Best regards

Philippe Garnier
Paris - France

http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira



Le mercredi 23 novembre 2016 00:21:34 UTC+1, Sue Q a écrit :
>
> I've got most of this but there are some words towards the end that I 
> can't figure out:
>
>
> On the twenty-third day of the month of November of 1829 at the age of 80, 
> more or less, died Maria Josefa, widow of Manuel de Bettencourt, resident 
> on the Fontes Road, did not receive the divine sacraments *He died very 
> quickly and no time to receive the divine sacraments (por ser quase 
> repentinha sua morte) **(I know what follows says something about her 
> death but I can’t tell exactly what it says from the remainder of the 5th 
> line to the middle of the 6th)* was buried in this church of Santa Cruz 
> da Graciosa, *I’m missing what it says after this and up through the 
> second to last line. where he was accompanied from here to the town entry 
> by the "Collegio" of this Church *
>
>
> Maria Josefa, on the left page, top entry:
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833_item1/P39.html
>
>
> Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>
> Sue 
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help conpleting Óbito translation

2016-11-22 Thread linda

Hi Sue,

I see "...os Divinos Sacrament.os Ig.r ser quase repentina sua morte..." 
and with google translate's help, I interpret that as "the Divine 
Sacraments of the Church [because] her death was nearly sudden".  I can't 
transliterate the second section that you asked about, but my impression is 
it says something along the lines of:  "she was accompanied by 
[someone/representative] from the town, from the Reverendo Collegio of the 
Matriz"--that is,someone from one of the lay brotherhoods whose members 
participated in religious ceremonies went with her body as it was carried 
to her grave.  Perhaps someone with a better eye can confirm or correct 
this.

hope that helps,

Linda

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 3:21:34 PM UTC-8, Sue Q wrote:
>
> I've got most of this but there are some words towards the end that I 
> can't figure out:
>
>
> On the twenty-third day of the month of November of 1829 at the age of 80, 
> more or less, died Maria Josefa, widow of Manuel de Bettencourt, resident 
> on the Fontes Road, did not receive the divine sacraments *(I know what 
> follows says something about her death but I can’t tell exactly what it 
> says from the remainder of the 5th line to the middle of the 6th)* was 
> buried in this church of Santa Cruz da Graciosa, *I’m missing what it 
> says after this and up through the second to last line.*
>
>
> Maria Josefa, on the left page, top entry:
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1826-1833_item1/P39.html
>
>
> Many thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>
> Sue 
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

2016-11-20 Thread Tish M

Parents and child's name are correct
The mother is from Santa Barbara
Paternal grandmother: Maria de Jesus
born on 21 Dec 1805
Hint:
Look at the book you are working from if you are having trouble reading the
year. You will see it only goes to 1810 so the birth can't be 1850.







On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
> SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html
>
>
>
> Bottom right one:
>
> Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the
> Apostle of Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria
> Francisca natural of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same
> island and residents of Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel
> Coelho and Maria de ?? natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel Jose
> de Resendes natural of this parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of Santa
> Barbara. Born on the 21st of December 1850 and was baptized on the 29th
> of the same month and year
>
>
>
>
>
> I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?
>
> Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
>
> I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
>
> Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

2016-11-19 Thread JR

Well done. The year, however, is 1805 not 1850. If ever in doubt just look 
at records before or after to confirm the correct month or year. Note also 
you are the book of 1797-1810.

JR

On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 8:53:21 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Paternal grandma is Maria de Jesus. The rest is right. I don't know why he 
> calls the church Glorious Santa Barbara. Maybe he had too much vinho. :)
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>  
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bottom right one:
>>
>> Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the 
>> Apostle of Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria 
>> Francisca natural of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same 
>> island and residents of Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel 
>> Coelho and Maria de ?? natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel 
>> Jose de Resendes natural of this parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of 
>> Santa Barbara. Born on the 21st of December 1850 and was baptized on the 
>> 29th of the same month and year
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?  
>>
>> Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
>>
>> I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
>>
>> Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

2016-11-19 Thread Cheri Mello

Paternal grandma is Maria de Jesus. The rest is right. I don't know why he
calls the church Glorious Santa Barbara. Maybe he had too much vinho. :)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html
>
>
>
> Bottom right one:
>
> Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the
> Apostle of Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria
> Francisca natural of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same
> island and residents of Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel
> Coelho and Maria de ?? natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel Jose
> de Resendes natural of this parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of Santa
> Barbara. Born on the 21st of December 1850 and was baptized on the 29th
> of the same month and year
>
>
>
>
>
> I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?
>
> Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
>
> I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
>
> Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

2016-11-19 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html

Bottom right one:
Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the Apostle of 
Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria Francisca natural 
of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same island and residents of 
Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel Coelho and Maria de ?? 
natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel Jose de Resendes natural of this 
parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of Santa Barbara. Born on the 21st of 
December 1850 and was baptized on the 29th of the same month and year


I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?  
Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?

Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-18 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

hi margaret

forgot to ask who her mother's parents were

i can make out izabel furtado

i can't make out the father's name

my next post will have more info

thanks again

Carmen
   
    


On Fri, 11/18/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 9:01 AM
 
 Yes,
 that's her baptism and obit record.  The 1816 is a
 certification.  It means her birth record was requested and
 certified in 1816.  It could be for many reasons.  a)
 inheritance b) a child or husband needed proof of birth.
 Should you find this certification on her husband's
 birth record or one of their children, you will know it was
 an inheritance or other legal matters. If they owned a home
 together and he remarried, there would be a need to set the
 records straight...etc.
 Nothing in the obit refers to
 his remarriage.  It does say her age was 38 years old. If
 you suspect he did marry again, you can start searching
 shortly after her death date, especially if there were
 children, a man would usually remarry shortly after.  It
 may not be in the same town though, which makes it hard to
 find.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 8:27 AM, carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 does this look like to be her baptism
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799_
 item1/P46.html
 
 
 
 what is the november 13 1816 about?
 
 
 
 i thought this was her obituary
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_ item1/P245.html
 
 
 
 as her husband francisco da costa got married again in
 1807
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 
  Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 6:36 AM
 
 
 
  She is of
 
  father incognito and mother is Margarida Ignacia
 (Inacia)
 
  already deceased.
 
  On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 
  6:08 AM, carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  thank you
 
  margaret
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is her father incognito
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 MARRIAGE
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen,
 
 
 
   Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 
 
 
   You're
 
 
 
   welcome.Margaret
 
 
 
   On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 
 
 
   3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy
 
  <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 
 
 
   VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   what are her parents names
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila
 franca
 
  but
 
 
 
   couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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2016-11-18 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

hi margaret

does this look like to be her baptism

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799_item1/P46.html

what is the november 13 1816 about?

i thought this was her obituary

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P245.html

as her husband francisco da costa got married again in 1807

thank you

Carmen
  
   
    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 6:36 AM
 
 She is of
 father incognito and mother is Margarida Ignacia (Inacia)
 already deceased.
 On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 6:08 AM, carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 thank you
 margaret
 
 
 
 is her father incognito
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
  Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 
  You're
 
  welcome.Margaret
 
  On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 
  3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  what are her parents names
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca
 but
 
  couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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2016-11-18 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

thank you margaret

is her father incognito

Carmen
  
   
    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 Carmen,
 Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 You're
 welcome.Margaret
 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 what are her parents names
 
 
 
 i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but
 couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-17 Thread Margaret Vicente

Carmen, Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.

You're welcome.
Margaret

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P257.html
>
> francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
>
> what are her parents names
>
> i can see margarida ignacia
>
> i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but couldn't find
> any izabels
>
> what is that sao pedro about?
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Carmen
>
>
>
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2016-11-17 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P257.html

francisco da costa and izabel de jesus

what are her parents names

i can see margarida ignacia

i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but couldn't find any 
izabels

what is that sao pedro about?

thank you 

carmen






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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with residence on record 1861

2016-11-14 Thread IslandRoutes

JR,
Thanks!  I figured it was more of a descriptive of a neighborhood, but I 
wanted to be sure.  

I am trying to figure out what happened to my gr gr grandparents, Jacintho 
Pacheco and Anna Jacinta de Mello, between 1856 (married in FVC) and 1863 
(2nd son born in Achada).  The people in the baptismal are the Jacintho's 
relatives.  I've been hoping to find a clue as to where they might have 
gone for those 7 years...and knowing there were relatives in another 
village or island might have been something to look into.

Another dead end...on to the next record :)

Thanks for your help!

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 6:59:37 AM UTC-8, JR wrote:
>
> I should say, Pico in this case, is in all likelihood a neighbourhood in, 
> or just outside Fenais da Ajuda. There is a mountain south of Fenais called 
> "Senhora do Pico." And there is a very small village called "Pico de 
> Pedro", located far west near Rabo de Peixe.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:49:16 AM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>
>> Hi. It says "...moradores no Pico, neto (sic nepto) paterno de Manoel 
>> Pacheco Grande, e Mariana de Jesus e materno do Antonio Cabral Pacheco, e 
>> Maria de Jesus..."
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:05:06 AM UTC-5, IslandRoutes wrote:
>>>
>>> Could someone take a look at this baptismal in Fenais de Vera Cruz 
>>> (Ajuda). Image Page 29 no. 53 for Jose,son of Joao Pacheco Grande and Maria 
>>> de Jesus?  After their names it says "moradores na Pico"
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869_item1/P52.html
>>>
>>> Are they talking about the island of Pico or does the word have some 
>>> other meaning?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with residence on record 1861

2016-11-14 Thread JR

I should say, Pico in this case, is in all likelihood a neighbourhood in, 
or just outside Fenais da Ajuda. There is a mountain south of Fenais called 
"Senhora do Pico." And there is a very small village called "Pico de 
Pedro", located far west near Rabo de Peixe.

JR

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:49:16 AM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> Hi. It says "...moradores no Pico, neto (sic nepto) paterno de Manoel 
> Pacheco Grande, e Mariana de Jesus e materno do Antonio Cabral Pacheco, e 
> Maria de Jesus..."
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:05:06 AM UTC-5, IslandRoutes wrote:
>>
>> Could someone take a look at this baptismal in Fenais de Vera Cruz 
>> (Ajuda). Image Page 29 no. 53 for Jose,son of Joao Pacheco Grande and Maria 
>> de Jesus?  After their names it says "moradores na Pico"
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869_item1/P52.html
>>
>> Are they talking about the island of Pico or does the word have some 
>> other meaning?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with residence on record 1861

2016-11-14 Thread JR

I should say, Pico in this case, is all likelihood a neighbourhood in or 
just outside Fenais da Ajuda.

JR

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:49:16 AM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> Hi. It says "...moradores no Pico, neto (sic nepto) paterno de Manoel 
> Pacheco Grande, e Mariana de Jesus e materno do Antonio Cabral Pacheco, e 
> Maria de Jesus..."
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:05:06 AM UTC-5, IslandRoutes wrote:
>>
>> Could someone take a look at this baptismal in Fenais de Vera Cruz 
>> (Ajuda). Image Page 29 no. 53 for Jose,son of Joao Pacheco Grande and Maria 
>> de Jesus?  After their names it says "moradores na Pico"
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869_item1/P52.html
>>
>> Are they talking about the island of Pico or does the word have some 
>> other meaning?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with residence on record 1861

2016-11-14 Thread JR

Hi. It says "...moradores no Pico, neto (sic nepto) paterno de Manoel 
Pacheco Grande, e Mariana de Jesus e materno do Antonio Cabral Pacheco, e 
Maria de Jesus..."

JR

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:05:06 AM UTC-5, IslandRoutes wrote:
>
> Could someone take a look at this baptismal in Fenais de Vera Cruz 
> (Ajuda). Image Page 29 no. 53 for Jose,son of Joao Pacheco Grande and Maria 
> de Jesus?  After their names it says "moradores na Pico"
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1860-1869_item1/P52.html
>
> Are they talking about the island of Pico or does the word have some other 
> meaning?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES

2016-11-09 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci

Carmen, do you live in California?? If you live anywhere close to Monterey
CA you need to come to the DAR Seminar in January. I will be presenting a 2
hour class on reading the Portuguese records.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:31 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P221.html
>
> francisco luiz marriage
>
> his parents are António Luiz andJosefa do Espírito Santo
>
> what are Maria do Rozário's parents names?
>
> João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?
>
> then everything gets confusing with the names
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-09 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

thank you margaret

i didn't notice that you supplied a link

that one was a hard one for me to find

thought she was a foundling

carmen



  
   
    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>, azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 3:20 PM
 
 Carmen you have the wrong
 Antonia.  I sent the right link previous email, bottom left
 3 pages up from this one # 86.  
 On Wed, Nov
 9, 2016 at 3:14 PM carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 thank you margaret
 
 
 
 i found this but can't find the month on it
 
 
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html
 
 
 
 maria
 
 
 
 does it have may on it?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
 
 
 
  Nothing
 
  else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
 
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
 
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
 
  AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  joze da costa - antonia margarida
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  october 6, 1816
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
 
  Conceição
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find
 a
 
  baptism record in matriz villa franca
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is something else listed in this record where to find
 her
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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2016-11-09 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P221.html

francisco luiz marriage

his parents are António Luiz andJosefa do Espírito Santo

what are Maria do Rozário's parents names?

João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?

then everything gets confusing with the names

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-09 Thread Margaret Vicente

Carmen you have the wrong Antonia. I sent the right link previous email,
bottom left 3 pages up from this one # 86.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:14 PM carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>
>
> thank you margaret
>
> i found this but can't find the month on it
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html
>
> maria
>
> does it have may on it?
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
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> 
> On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
>  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
>  Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
>
>  Nothing
>  else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
>
>  On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
>  AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
>  wrote:
>  http://culturacores.azores.
>  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
>  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
>
>
>
>  joze da costa - antonia margarida
>
>
>
>  october 6, 1816
>
>
>
>  his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
>
>
>
>  her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
>  Conceição
>
>
>
>  i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a
>  baptism record in matriz villa franca
>
>
>
>  is something else listed in this record where to find her
>
>
>
>  thank you
>
>
>
>  carmen
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-09 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy




thank you margaret

i found this but can't find the month on it

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html

maria

does it have may on it?

thank you

carmen

 
  
   
    


On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
 
 Nothing
 else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
 
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
 
 
 
 joze da costa - antonia margarida
 
 
 
 october 6, 1816
 
 
 
 his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
 
 
 
 her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
 Conceição
 
 
 
 i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a
 baptism record in matriz villa franca
 
 
 
 is something else listed in this record where to find her
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-09 Thread Margaret Vicente

Nothing else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html
>
> joze da costa - antonia margarida
>
> october 6, 1816
>
> his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
>
> her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da Conceição
>
> i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a baptism record in
> matriz villa franca
>
> is something else listed in this record where to find her
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
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2016-11-09 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html

joze da costa - antonia margarida

october 6, 1816

his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria

her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da Conceição

i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a baptism record in 
matriz villa franca

is something else listed in this record where to find her

thank you

carmen





  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

2016-11-04 Thread Margaret Vicente

meant to sayexterior front door *area*.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> 2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year.
> ... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on the 11th* day of
> the same month and year.
>
> *11 - current spelling is onze and old spelling is honze.
>
> Someone else is going to have to figure out what looks like "airo."
>
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-
>> PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the
>> left side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria
>> and Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year
>> old, more or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone
>> can translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam Koester
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

2016-11-04 Thread Margaret Vicente

Cheri, it is "adro" which is the exterior front door are,  the "forecourt"
or churchyard.


On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> 2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year.
> ... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on the 11th* day of
> the same month and year.
>
> *11 - current spelling is onze and old spelling is honze.
>
> Someone else is going to have to figure out what looks like "airo."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-
>> PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the
>> left side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria
>> and Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year
>> old, more or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone
>> can translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam Koester
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

2016-11-04 Thread Cheri Mello

2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year.
... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on the 11th* day of
the same month and year.

*11 - current spelling is onze and old spelling is honze.

Someone else is going to have to figure out what looks like "airo."

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
> HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html
>
>
>
> Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the left
> side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria and
> Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year old,
> more or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.
>
>
>
> So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone
> can translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your help,
>
>
>
> Sam Koester
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

2016-11-04 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html

Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the left 
side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria and 
Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year old, more 
or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.

So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone can 
translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Sam Koester



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS

2016-11-03 Thread Margaret Vicente

Hi Carmen,

According to these records, none of these children were adopted or
"perfilhadas" because if they were it would be annotated on the record with
the parents names or point to another book with that information.

The word after Inacia (Ignacia) Maria is "Joaquina" the full name is Inacia
Maria Joaquina

You're welcome,

Margaret

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> i just finished searching sao pedro's births fom 1776 to 1798
>
> i could only find 4 ignacias
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P140.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P143.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P145.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P151.html
>
> is there some way to find which one was adopted by  manoel rodriques and
> maria sao joao?
>
> thanks
>
> Carmen
>
>
>
> 
> On Tue, 11/1/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS
>  To: Azores@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2016, 6:31 PM
>
>  i was looking for something else and
>  came across this one
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html
>
>  marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria
>
>  so i went looking for his baptism
>
>  is this it?
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-
> MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html
>
>  the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793
>  - this was the only one
>
>  wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off
>
>  the marriage for her has paes incognito
>
>  what is the word after Ignácia Maria?
>
>  here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html
>
>  says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and
>  maria sao joao
>
>  i'll try to find her
>
>  thank you
>
>  carmen
>
>  found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS

2016-11-03 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

i just finished searching sao pedro's births fom 1776 to 1798

i could only find 4 ignacias

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P140.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P143.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P145.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P151.html

is there some way to find which one was adopted by  manoel rodriques and maria 
sao joao?

thanks

Carmen
   
    


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<azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2016, 6:31 PM
 
 i was looking for something else and
 came across this one
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html
 
 marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria
 
 so i went looking for his baptism
 
 is this it?
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html
 
 the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793
 - this was the only one
 
 wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off
 
 the marriage for her has paes incognito
 
 what is the word after Ignácia Maria?
 
 here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html
 
 says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and
 maria sao joao
 
 i'll try to find her
 
 thank you
 
 carmen
 
 found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
    
     
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help? Baptism Francisco Arruda

2016-11-01 Thread Chelly

Cheri you are a gold mine of help! I appreciate it so much!
I had a feeling he was a whaler, I just needed a professional opinion. I 
hope I will be able to get the hang of it and help others soon!
Thank you again,
Chelly 

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 2:12:29 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

> Chelly, I don't know how "whaler" was spelled (or misspelled) back then, 
> but today it's "baleeiro." He was a whaler.
>
> As to Maria, it says they are from the parish Senhora da Graça, "logar" of 
> Faial...If she was from the island of Faial, they would have said "ilha de 
> Faial". Lugar (modern spelling) is the place. So technically, they are from 
> the parish of Nossa Senhora da Graça, in the freguesia (village) of Faial 
> da Terra. The priest was saving space and ink by dropping certain words, I 
> guess.
>
> A listing of Sao Miguel churches and their towns is here:
>
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/sao-miguel.html
>
> Francisco's baptismthe word you are looking for when the parents are 
> married is "recebidos." The literal translation is "received." Line 11 from 
> the BOTTOM says, "natives, received, parishioners, and living in the 
> something of this freguesia. So they are from Porto Formoso. You're going 
> to have to look for a Jose Anybody (and look real hard at the Joao too so 
> you aren't misreading) married to a Roza Anybody. If that doesn't work, 
> start collecting Francisco's siblings working back in time. When you go 
> about 4 years with no kids, go back to kid 1 and start looking for the 
> marriage the day before. Unless you see that the first couple of kids were 
> born out of wedlock, then you'll find the marriage sandwiched between a 
> couple of kids.
>
> You're doing quite well if you are getting the names and dates already! 
> You'll be able to help others soon!
> Cheri
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chelly  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you! That's good to know!
>> Specifically looking into Francisco's marriage record. His occupation 
>> looks like, balieiro. I've tried several different spellings and nothing 
>> translates. The same phrase also appears next to their first witness.
>>
>> The first line at top of the second page of their marriage record, does 
>> that state the wife, Maria, and wife's family were from the island of Faial?
>>
>> On Francisco's baptism record, does it state where his parents are living 
>> or marriage location specifically? I am looking for the place his parents 
>> where married so I can locate their marriage record. I know he was baptized 
>> in Ribeira Grande Porto Formoso but I have looked through years of marriage 
>> records with no sign of the names of his parents.
>>   
>> I'm very green at this, I greatly apologize. I'm sure these are 
>> really silly and annoying questions!
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> Chelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 11:50:46 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>>> Chelly,
>>> What are you able to read and what do you need help with?
>>>
>>> There's a list of key words and the format here: https://goo.gl/n5vTbh
>>> They are difficult for everyone in the beginning. Yours are a dream 
>>> compared to the handwriting of the priest that I had to start with!
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS

2016-11-01 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

i was looking for something else and came across this one

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html

marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria

so i went looking for his baptism

is this it?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html

the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793 - this was the only 
one

wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off

the marriage for her has paes incognito

what is the word after Ignácia Maria?

here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html

says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and maria sao joao

i'll try to find her

thank you

carmen

found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html








  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help? Baptism Francisco Arruda

2016-11-01 Thread JR

Here is Jose de Arruda and Rosa Amalia da Conceicao [aka Rosa do Espirito 
Santo], married Porto Formoso, Jan 7- 1856.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1844-1860/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1844-1860_item1/P59.html

JR

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 4:50:18 PM UTC-4, Chelly wrote:
>
> Thank you! That's good to know!
> Specifically looking into Francisco's marriage record. His occupation 
> looks like, balieiro. I've tried several different spellings and nothing 
> translates. The same phrase also appears next to their first witness.
>
> The first line at top of the second page of their marriage record, does 
> that state the wife, Maria, and wife's family were from the island of Faial?
>
> On Francisco's baptism record, does it state where his parents are living 
> or marriage location specifically? I am looking for the place his parents 
> where married so I can locate their marriage record. I know he was baptized 
> in Ribeira Grande Porto Formoso but I have looked through years of marriage 
> records with no sign of the names of his parents.
>   
> I'm very green at this, I greatly apologize. I'm sure these are 
> really silly and annoying questions!
> Many thanks!
>
> Chelly
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 11:50:46 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
>> Chelly,
>> What are you able to read and what do you need help with?
>>
>> There's a list of key words and the format here: https://goo.gl/n5vTbh
>> They are difficult for everyone in the beginning. Yours are a dream 
>> compared to the handwriting of the priest that I had to start with!
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help? Baptism Francisco Arruda

2016-11-01 Thread Cheri Mello

Chelly, I don't know how "whaler" was spelled (or misspelled) back then,
but today it's "baleeiro." He was a whaler.

As to Maria, it says they are from the parish Senhora da Graça, "logar" of
Faial...If she was from the island of Faial, they would have said "ilha de
Faial". Lugar (modern spelling) is the place. So technically, they are from
the parish of Nossa Senhora da Graça, in the freguesia (village) of Faial
da Terra. The priest was saving space and ink by dropping certain words, I
guess.

A listing of Sao Miguel churches and their towns is here:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/sao-miguel.html

Francisco's baptismthe word you are looking for when the parents are
married is "recebidos." The literal translation is "received." Line 11 from
the BOTTOM says, "natives, received, parishioners, and living in the
something of this freguesia. So they are from Porto Formoso. You're going
to have to look for a Jose Anybody (and look real hard at the Joao too so
you aren't misreading) married to a Roza Anybody. If that doesn't work,
start collecting Francisco's siblings working back in time. When you go
about 4 years with no kids, go back to kid 1 and start looking for the
marriage the day before. Unless you see that the first couple of kids were
born out of wedlock, then you'll find the marriage sandwiched between a
couple of kids.

You're doing quite well if you are getting the names and dates already!
You'll be able to help others soon!
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chelly  wrote:

> Thank you! That's good to know!
> Specifically looking into Francisco's marriage record. His occupation
> looks like, balieiro. I've tried several different spellings and nothing
> translates. The same phrase also appears next to their first witness.
>
> The first line at top of the second page of their marriage record, does
> that state the wife, Maria, and wife's family were from the island of Faial?
>
> On Francisco's baptism record, does it state where his parents are living
> or marriage location specifically? I am looking for the place his parents
> where married so I can locate their marriage record. I know he was baptized
> in Ribeira Grande Porto Formoso but I have looked through years of marriage
> records with no sign of the names of his parents.
>
> I'm very green at this, I greatly apologize. I'm sure these are
> really silly and annoying questions!
> Many thanks!
>
> Chelly
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 11:50:46 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
>> Chelly,
>> What are you able to read and what do you need help with?
>>
>> There's a list of key words and the format here: https://goo.gl/n5vTbh
>> They are difficult for everyone in the beginning. Yours are a dream
>> compared to the handwriting of the priest that I had to start with!
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help? Baptism Francisco Arruda

2016-11-01 Thread Chelly

Thank you! That's good to know!
Specifically looking into Francisco's marriage record. His occupation looks 
like, balieiro. I've tried several different spellings and nothing 
translates. The same phrase also appears next to their first witness.

The first line at top of the second page of their marriage record, does 
that state the wife, Maria, and wife's family were from the island of Faial?

On Francisco's baptism record, does it state where his parents are living 
or marriage location specifically? I am looking for the place his parents 
where married so I can locate their marriage record. I know he was baptized 
in Ribeira Grande Porto Formoso but I have looked through years of marriage 
records with no sign of the names of his parents.

I'm very green at this, I greatly apologize. I'm sure these are 
really silly and annoying questions!
Many thanks!

Chelly

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 11:50:46 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

> Chelly,
> What are you able to read and what do you need help with?
>
> There's a list of key words and the format here: https://goo.gl/n5vTbh
> They are difficult for everyone in the beginning. Yours are a dream 
> compared to the handwriting of the priest that I had to start with!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help? Baptism Francisco Arruda

2016-11-01 Thread Cheri Mello

Chelly,
What are you able to read and what do you need help with?

There's a list of key words and the format here: https://goo.gl/n5vTbh
They are difficult for everyone in the beginning. Yours are a dream
compared to the handwriting of the priest that I had to start with!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help? Baptism Francisco Arruda

2016-11-01 Thread Chelly

Hi I'm new to this and trying to translate a record of my great 
grandfather, Francisco, of Sao Miguel.
* Number 55.* 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1860-1869/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1860-1869_item1/P187.html

and Francisco's Marriage record to Maria, *bottom left*.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1890-1899_item1/P50.html


I've tried to translate it myself but I have some holes in it, and the 
records are difficult for me to read.
 Any help, translations, resources, would be greatly appreciated!

Chelly

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-27 Thread Amy Francis

I did scan the Rabo de Peixe records beginning in 1706 to look for children 
and found their daughter Francisca in 1708 in RP (right middle).  I stopped 
looking after I found her and will look for more children tomorrow.  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710_item1/P318.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-27 Thread JR

Do you know if there are any children for Antonio Pereira and Ana Benevides 
before 1715?

JR

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> Great find!  Thank you.
> Amy
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-27 Thread Amy Francis

Great find!  Thank you.
Amy


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-26 Thread JR

I found in Rabo de Peixe a second Manuel Pereira Bicho cc Maria da Costa, 
Feb 4- 1692; He is filho de Francisco Pereira and Isabel Vieira nats de 
Fenais de Luz; She is filha de Pai Nao Sabido and Vitoria Furtado nat de 
Rabo de Peixe.

I think it is reasonable to assume this Manuel Pereira Bicho is in the same 
family and most likely is the brother of your Antonio Pereira Bicho. This 
makes Francisco Pereira and Isabel Vieira the parents of said Antonio 
Pereira. If you really want to firm it up more, look for some children, and 
that should help solidify the relationships.

JR

On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 1:10:15 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>
> Amy, you have the correct obit record for it states her husband's full 
> name.
>
> You will find as you continue searches that the obits' records give 
> approximate ages.  Watch for the words (more or less).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Amy Francis  > wrote:
>
>> Also found Anna de Benevides death in 1749, which gives an age of around 
>> 66, so born around 1683.  
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758_item1/P40.html
>>
>> I had thought I found her baptism in 1690 here; but doesn't match the age 
>> on her death record- but I went back to 1782 and did not find any other 
>> anna with benevides in the record, so this is likely it. 
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710_item1/P4.html
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-26 Thread Margaret Vicente

Amy, you have the correct obit record for it states her husband's full name.

You will find as you continue searches that the obits' records give
approximate ages.  Watch for the words (more or less).



On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Amy Francis  wrote:

> Also found Anna de Benevides death in 1749, which gives an age of around
> 66, so born around 1683.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758_item1/P40.html
>
> I had thought I found her baptism in 1690 here; but doesn't match the age
> on her death record- but I went back to 1782 and did not find any other
> anna with benevides in the record, so this is likely it.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710_item1/P4.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-26 Thread Amy Francis

Also found Anna de Benevides death in 1749, which gives an age of around 
66, so born around 1683.  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1745-1758_item1/P40.html

I had thought I found her baptism in 1690 here; but doesn't match the age 
on her death record- but I went back to 1782 and did not find any other 
anna with benevides in the record, so this is likely it. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1689-1710_item1/P4.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-26 Thread Amy Francis

Thanks!  I found Antonio Pereira's death entry in 1738 - 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1729-1745/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1729-1745_item1/P66.html

States he was 50 years old, so born around 1688.

I looked for his baptism but could not find it, fenais da luz seems to be 
missing the dates I need.  I think it jumped from 1686 to 1693?

Amy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-26 Thread JR

I found this in my files and what you posted:

*Ancestors of Manuel Pereira Bicho*

*Generation No. 1*

*1.* *Manuel Pereira Bicho,* born 24 Feb 1715 in Rabo de Peixe,
Senhor Bom Jesus. He was the son of *2. Antonio Pereira Bicho* and *3. Ana
de Benevides*. He married *(1) Barbara da Conceicao de Almeida* 30 Jan 1738
in Rabo de Peixe, Senhor Bom Jesus. She was born in Rabo de Peixe, Senhor
Bom Jesus. She was the daughter of Manuel da Costa Pavao and Luzia da
Costa.

Notes for Manuel Pereira Bicho:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1710-1730/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1710-1730_item1/P75.html

Rabo de Peixe, bap- Manoel, born- Feb 24- 1715, bap- March 2- 1715, filho
de Antonio Pra Bixo nat de lugar de Fenais de Luz and Anna de Benevides nat
de Calhetas, freg de Rabo de Peixe, Pad- Francisco Tavares Muniz and Ma. da
Costa sua mer. moradores no dito Pico de Pedra desta freg.

He married with name Manoel Pereira

Notes for Barbara da Conceicao de Almeida:

She married as Barbara de Almeida

Marriage Notes for Manuel Pereira Bicho and Barbara Almeida:

There is Mel Pra and Barbara Almeida RP, Jan 30- 1738 To check

*Generation No. 2*

*2.* *Antonio Pereira Bicho,* born in Fenais da Luz, res Calhetas,
freg de Rabo de Paixe; died Bef. 03 Jun 1741. He married *3. Ana de
Benevides*.

*3.* *Ana de Benevides,* born in Calhetas, freg de Rabo de Paixe.

Notes for Antonio Pereira Bicho:

The name Antonio Pereira Bixo is from baptism of filho Manoel.

Children of Antonio Pereira Bicho and Ana Benevides are:

i.Francisca Pereira, born in Rabo de Peixe,
Senhor Bom Jesus; married Jose de Andrade 03 Jun 1741 in Rabo de Peixe,
Senhor Bom Jesus; born in bap- NS dos Anjos, Fajao.

Marriage Notes for Francisca Pereira and Jose Andrade:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1700-1759/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1700-1759_item1/P236.html

1ii.Manuel Pereira Bicho, born 24 Feb 1715 in
Rabo de Peixe, Senhor Bom Jesus; married Barbara da Conceicao de Almeida 30
Jan 1738 in Rabo de Peixe, Senhor Bom Jesus.

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>
> Thank you all! I will start looking with these new hints. I'll post if I
> find anything.
>
> Amy
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-26 Thread Amy Francis

Thank you all!  I will start looking with these new hints.  I'll post if I 
find anything.  

Amy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-25 Thread JR

Try Capelas or Ribeira Grande. Ana de Benevides is from Calhetas which was 
then part of the freguesia of Rabo de Peixe. And I notice the godparents 
are from Pico de Pedra, which is a very small village just north of, and in 
between Rabo de Peixe and Calhetas.

His name is Bixo, which is indeed Bicho from Fenais da Luz.

If you can't find marriage, I think you should look for the baptism of the 
parents. There are not that many Pereira's or Benevides that would make 
this search that difficult. They married just before 1715, so look about 25 
years before this date and go forward. Then back from this date if not 
found.

JR

On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 10:08:02 PM UTC-4, Amy Francis wrote:
>
> I have been looking for the marriage record for the parents of Manuel 
> Pereira from this baptismal record in Rabo de Peixe.  (bottom right)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1710-1730/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1710-1730_item1/P75.html
>
> Parents look like, Antonio Pereira Bicho? from Fenais da Luz? and Anna de 
> Benevides from Rabo de Peixe.  I have looked in both parishes back to 1700 
> for their marriage, but no luck.  Anyone come across this couple before?
>
> Thanks
> Amy Francis
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a date please

2016-10-25 Thread Cheri Mello

Yes on the dates.
I have only heard of one other case of 2 living boys with the same name. I
believe it was Rick Pimentel who had it.

I'd double check though and make sure the priest didn't have too much vinho
and put the death note on the wrong José. Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a date please

2016-10-25 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy

Please ignore this post with my apologies.  I’ve been at this to long today and 
got different Jose’s from different families confused.  Mea Culpa.

Sam Koester (Camas, WA)

From: aportugee via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:36 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a date please

Jose, bottom right.  Is the baptismal date 28 Mar 1887 and birth date 20 Mar 
1887?  I also have his obit 4 May 1890, 3 yrs. old. 
It is curious because there is another Jose, my grandfather born 11 May 1883, 
same parents and grandparents. (I have his birth record.)  Why would they name 
a son born after a still living son with the same name?  I know many girls are 
named Maria and then go by their second name but; I wasn’t aware that it 
happened with sons as well.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889_item1/P126.html

Sam Koester

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a date please

2016-10-25 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy

Jose, bottom right.  Is the baptismal date 28 Mar 1887 and birth date 20 Mar 
1887?  I also have his obit 4 May 1890, 3 yrs. old. 
It is curious because there is another Jose, my grandfather born 11 May 1883, 
same parents and grandparents. (I have his birth record.)  Why would they name 
a son born after a still living son with the same name?  I know many girls are 
named Maria and then go by their second name but; I wasn’t aware that it 
happened with sons as well.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889_item1/P126.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

2016-10-20 Thread 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy

Hi Carmen,
"why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa".
His parents are Antonio da Costa and Umbelina Francisca. The parents of
Umbelina Francisca are Francisco Soares e Maria de Matos. O "Soares" is from
his maternal grandfather.The composed surname of the portugues people is, the
more frequently, an association of a paternal surname and a maternal surname.
It's very frequent that a child have not the same surname of the father. The
complete surname of Jacinto is "Soares Oliveira". Then, probably, there is an
"Oliveira" in the ascendants of Antonio da Costa.
The godfather of Maria and the "procurador" of the madrinha are children of
Antonio Soares Rebelo. Probably from the Francisco Soares family.The godfather
of Teresa is Francisco Soares son fo Francisca Soares. Probably the brother of
Umbelina Francisca. And the "procurador" of the godmother is José Soares.
Probably from the Francisco Soares family.The dois "procuradores" of the
godparents of Antonio are"Francisco Soares de Oliveira priest", probably a
parent of Jacinto Soares Oliveira, and João Francisco Soares, Probably from the
Francisco Soares family. Philippe Garnier Paris - France
http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira

Em Quinta-feira, 20 de Outubro de 2016 21:34, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> escreveu:

thank you jeremy

i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares

maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html

thereza
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html

antonio
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
then no births after that at matriz

i figure jacinto was born around 1799

the family probably moved

is there another igreja nearby besides matriz

here's the link again for his and his parents marriage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa

thank you

carmen

On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM

marriage of jacinto
soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina?

YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821

his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
Francis - she is deceased?
her parents are
José Monis and Maria da Estrella

YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
DECEASED. DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.

here
is jacinta's baptism in 1804?

YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804

could this be António da
Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?

YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
IT. I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781. NOT
100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.

Hope this is
of some help!

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

2016-10-20 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci

Carmen, you need to go to Kathy Cardoza's website:
AzoresGenWeb (just google it) and read the articles about names, how to to
Portuguese Research,  etc. The Portuguese are not like the Spaniards with
their naming, they could take whatever they wanted; sometimes the
godparent, sometimes the grandparent, sometimes the greatgrandparent!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> thank you jeremy
>
> i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares
>
> maria
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html
>
> thereza
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html
>
> antonio
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
>
> then no births after that at matriz
>
> i figure jacinto was born around 1799
>
> the family probably moved
>
> is there another igreja nearby besides matriz
>
> here's the link again for his and his parents marriage
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
>
> why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------
> On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
>  To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
>  Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
>
>  marriage of jacinto
>  soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina?
>
>  YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
>  I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
>
>  his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
>  Francis - she is deceased?
>  her parents are
>  José Monis and Maria da Estrella
>
>  YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
>  DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
>  ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
>
>  here
>  is jacinta's baptism in 1804?
>
>  YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
>
>  could this be António da
>  Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
>
>
>  YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
>  IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
>  100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
>  7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
>
>
>
>  Hope this is
>  of some help!
>
>  Jeremy
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

2016-10-20 Thread Cheri Mello

Carmen,

Go to the Azores GenWeb and click on the words "Maps, Churches, and
Villages." Pick your island. Look at your freguesia. Start searching
adjacent freguesias. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> thank you jeremy
>
> i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares
>
> maria
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html
>
> thereza
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html
>
> antonio
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
>
> then no births after that at matriz
>
> i figure jacinto was born around 1799
>
> the family probably moved
>
> is there another igreja nearby besides matriz
>
> here's the link again for his and his parents marriage
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
>
> why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------
> On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
>  To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
>  Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
>
>  marriage of jacinto
>  soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina?
>
>  YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
>  I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
>
>  his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
>  Francis - she is deceased?
>  her parents are
>  José Monis and Maria da Estrella
>
>  YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
>  DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
>  ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
>
>  here
>  is jacinta's baptism in 1804?
>
>  YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
>
>  could this be António da
>  Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
>
>
>  YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
>  IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
>  100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
>  7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
>
>
>
>  Hope this is
>  of some help!
>
>  Jeremy
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

2016-10-20 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

thank you jeremy

i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares

maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html

thereza
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html

antonio
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
  
then no births after that at matriz

i figure jacinto was born around 1799

the family probably moved

is there another igreja nearby besides matriz

here's the link again for his and his parents marriage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa

thank you

carmen





  
   
    


On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> 
wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
 
 marriage of jacinto
 soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina? 
 
 YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
 I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
 
 his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
 Francis - she is deceased? 
 her parents are
 José Monis and Maria da Estrella 
 
 YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
 DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
 ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
 
 here
 is jacinta's baptism in 1804? 
 
 YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
 
 could this be António da
 Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
 
 
 YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
 IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
 100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
 7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
 
 
 
 Hope this is
 of some help!
 
 Jeremy
 
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with last names, pls

2016-10-19 Thread linda


Hi Maria,

I see the bride's parents as Felipe de Matos, que Dios tem [i.e., deceased] 
and Maria d[a?] Alpoim.  Alpoim is one of the less common surnames.

hope that's helpful,

Linda



On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 7:08:50 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>
> Record on the left
>
> I'm having trouble reading the last name of the father of the bride.  Is 
> it Felipe Matos (?).(  Because the daughter's name looks like Maria Josefa 
> de Morais.   
>
> Also the mother- is that Maria de *Assencao* (?). 
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755_item1/P49.html
>
> Thanks so much for looking at this:)
> Maria Elena 
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

2016-10-19 Thread Sandra Perez

Manoel,

Joaquim Guilherme Pereira e Victorina Ermelinda de Medeiros Mendes

They married 11 Jan 1857 NS do Rosario, Lagoa,  Sao Miguel

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 5:47 AM, mances  wrote:

> Hi Sandra,
>
> What are the names of your g-g-parents?
>
> Manoel
>
> Em terça-feira, 18 de outubro de 2016 23:23:46 UTC-2, Sandra Perez
> escreveu:
>>
>> Manoel,
>>
>> That's so cool!  BTW, my g-grandparents immigrated to Hawaii in 1881.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Tony  wrote:
>>
>>> looking forward to it. avi...@reagan.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:

 Send ne your email so that we can trade information. Antonia married
 August Frietas first in Hawaii and than married Manuel Pavao. I was told
 that Manuel came from Sao Miguel.

 On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 11:30:56 AM UTC-7, mances wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
> What a happy coincidence!
> Antonia de Jesus, married to Manuel Pavão, is the sister of my
> great-grandfather Francisco Furtado who emigrated to Brazil in 1891!
> Wow! I didn´t know she went to Hawaii.
> She married Manuel Pavão in Livramento on 4 march 1878. Manuel Pavão
> is the son of Manuel Pavão, from Capelas, and Emília de Jesus, from
> Livramento.
>
> Manoel César Furtado
>
>
>
>
> Em quinta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2016 22:06:50 UTC-3, Cheri Mello
> escreveu:
>>
>> The Knowlton book (page 311) lists:
>> Pavao, Manuel, age 31, Hankow 1883, Madeira & Sao Miguel (stopped at
>> both places), with Antonia de Jesus 29, wife, and children, Maria 3, and
>> Emilia 3/4.
>>
>> Bob de Mello book (page 299) lists:
>> Manuel Pavao, age 31, father deceased, mother Emilia de Jesus, from
>> Livramento
>> wife Antonia de Jesus, age 27, father Francisco Furtado, mother Maria
>> da Luz
>> Children Maria,3, Emilia 9 months. Born iIvramento
>> On the Abergeldie
>>
>> The Hankow sailed around April 30, 1883. The Abergeldie sailed Jan.
>> 1st.
>>
>> Check for them leaving the Azores here:
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
>> PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P200.html
>>
>> Good luck! Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd contact the PGSH on Oahu and ask for information on Manuel Pavao
>>> and Antonia Martins. Provide their birth dates (or approximate) and 
>>> islands
>>> that they are from. I'd also trace Manuel Pavao & Antonia in the 
>>> censuses
>>> too. It'll give their immigration year (or approximate).
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

2016-10-19 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

marriage of jacinto soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina?
his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina Francis - she is deceased?
her parents are José Monis and Maria da Estrella

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

here is jacinta's baptism in 1804?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1801-1811_item1/P109.html

could this be António da Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the 
year?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html

i am trying to find jacinto's baptism

thank you

carmen








   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-10-18 Thread 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy

Hi Carme,
See down into your text my commentaries.
Normaly, the detahs of Maria and Manoel must be in the same parish.
Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Familias da ilha Terceira

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Familias da ilha Terceira
Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond)
Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ... | |

Em Terça-feira, 18 de Outubro de 2016 17:01, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
Genealogy escreveu:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html

left side

manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel OK.In the texte her name is Maria de
Pimentel Rezendes
his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira - Nordestinho OK

his birth - May 7, 1788 - Nordestinho, Nordeste Don't existe here
his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro, Nordestinho, NordesteMay
22, 1788. Batism.

marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Penha de França, Água
Retorta Date OK. Lugar "Nossa Senhora da Graça do lugar do Faial na
Filial Ermida de Nossa Senhora da Penha de França do sitio da Água Retorta"

her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra + Antónia Marguisa - Faial
da Terra Antonia Marquia natives de Nossa Senhora da Graça

her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra
her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Graça, Faial
da Terra OK.It's the batism

i'm taking a wild guess on this translation

please correct my mistakes

what is the word after maria de pimentel and before filha de Rezendes

i could not find a baptism for maria

where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths?

thank you

carmen

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

2016-10-18 Thread Tony

looking forward to it. avil...@reagan.com

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
>
> Send ne your email so that we can trade information. Antonia married 
> August Frietas first in Hawaii and than married Manuel Pavao. I was told 
> that Manuel came from Sao Miguel. 
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 11:30:56 AM UTC-7, mances wrote:
>>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> What a happy coincidence!
>> Antonia de Jesus, married to Manuel Pavão, is the sister of my 
>> great-grandfather Francisco Furtado who emigrated to Brazil in 1891!
>> Wow! I didn´t know she went to Hawaii. 
>> She married Manuel Pavão in Livramento on 4 march 1878. Manuel Pavão is 
>> the son of Manuel Pavão, from Capelas, and Emília de Jesus, from Livramento.
>>
>> Manoel César Furtado
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2016 22:06:50 UTC-3, Cheri Mello 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> The Knowlton book (page 311) lists:
>>> Pavao, Manuel, age 31, Hankow 1883, Madeira & Sao Miguel (stopped at 
>>> both places), with Antonia de Jesus 29, wife, and children, Maria 3, and 
>>> Emilia 3/4.
>>>
>>> Bob de Mello book (page 299) lists:
>>> Manuel Pavao, age 31, father deceased, mother Emilia de Jesus, from 
>>> Livramento
>>> wife Antonia de Jesus, age 27, father Francisco Furtado, mother Maria da 
>>> Luz
>>> Children Maria,3, Emilia 9 months. Born iIvramento
>>> On the Abergeldie
>>>
>>> The Hankow sailed around April 30, 1883. The Abergeldie sailed Jan. 1st.
>>>
>>> Check for them leaving the Azores here:
>>>
>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P200.html
>>>
>>> Good luck! Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 I'd contact the PGSH on Oahu and ask for information on Manuel Pavao 
 and Antonia Martins. Provide their birth dates (or approximate) and 
 islands 
 that they are from. I'd also trace Manuel Pavao & Antonia in the censuses 
 too. It'll give their immigration year (or approximate).

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

>>>
>>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-10-18 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html

left side

manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel

his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira - Nordestinho

his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho, Nordeste

his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro, Nordestinho, Nordeste

marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Penha de França, Água 
Retorta

her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra + Antónia Marguisa - Faial 
da Terra

her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra

her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Graça, Faial 
da Terra

i'm taking a wild guess on this translation

please correct my mistakes

what is the word after maria de pimentel and before filha  

i could not find a baptism for maria

where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths?

thank you

carmen
  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

2016-10-18 Thread 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy

hi margaret

i didn't see that at all

i tried to find his mother's baptism record but couldn't find anything under 
rezendes or medeiros together

carmen





   
    


On Mon, 10/17/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Monday, October 17, 2016, 10:06 PM
 
 You're
 welcome.
 Not quite. He is of
 unknown (incognito) father as per his birth record which you
 already found and posted the link in one of your earlier
 emails on this subject.
 It reads: Jose de Rezende (filho
 ilegitimo de Francisca de Medeiros Rezende).
  
 Translating to:
 Jose de Rezendes illegitimate son of Francisca de Medeiros
 Rezende (Resendes). 
 best,
 
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at
 6:09 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 thank you
 margaret
 
 
 
 i can make out that his father is Francisco Medeiros de
 Resendes
 
 
 
 i don't see his mother listed - wonder where i could
 find her name
 
 
 
 her father is António Boteilho
 
 
 
 her mother is Victoria de Medeiros - i have seen her listed
 as Quitéria de Medeiros on another document
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 -- --
 
 On Sun, 10/16/16, Margaret
 Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
 
  Date: Sunday, October 16, 2016, 9:48 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
  the marriages for Agua Retorta prior to 1833 can be found
 in
 
  Faial da Terra.  
 
  Here's your Jose Leandro.  His
 
  name is Jose de Rezendes. Marriage date is
 16-March-1820,
 
  right side.
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P113.html
 
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
 
  6:39 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  If you could post some marriages or send me what
 
  you are looking for, I may be able to help you.
 
  As it stands, I really don't who
 
  you are looking for, and possible there is an error
 
  somewhere. 
 
  JR
 
 
 
  On
 
  Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 5:38:56 PM UTC-4, carmen
 furtado
 
  wrote:thank
 
  you margaret
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i just checked births for 1795
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  the closest i could find is this one for
 
  may ? 1798
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://culturacores.azores.gov
 
  .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-
 AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-
 
  PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_ item1/P33.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  father francisco de  rezendes
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  mother can't make out her name
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  no mention of liandro
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  anything that can help me know if this is
 
  him
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  here is his wife's death
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://culturacores.azores.gov
 
  .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-
 AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879/SMG-
 
  PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879_ item1/P84.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  june 23 1877
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  age 76
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  father antonio botelho
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  mother victoria de medeiros
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i figure they got married about 1820 but
 
  the books start at 1835 - bummer
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thanks again
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
 
  --
 
 
 
  On Sun,
 
  10/16/16, Margaret Vicente <margare...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 
  WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "azores" <azo...@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   Date: Sunday,
 
  October 16, 2016, 2:43 PM
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   Obit date
 
 
 
   Dec 31 1839Jose Liandro (Leandro modern
 
 
 
   spelling)residing in Lomba das Fagundas
 
 
 
   44 years oldDied without a
 
 
 
   will
 
 
 
   No
 
 
 
   parents' names given
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
 
 
 
   1:48 PM, 'carmen furtado'
 
  via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   i've
 
 
 
   been searching for days and hope this is
 
  the one i need
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG
 
  - PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860/
 
 
 
   SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-
 
  1860_item1/P38.html
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   jose liando
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   december 30 1839
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   husband of francisca de medeiros
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   what is his age?
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   are his parents listed?
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   many thanks

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

2016-10-17 Thread Margaret Vicente

You're welcome.

Not quite. He is of unknown (incognito) father as per his birth record
which you already found and posted the link in one of your earlier emails
on this subject.

It reads: Jose de Rezende (filho ilegitimo de Francisca de Medeiros
Rezende).

Translating to: Jose de Rezendes illegitimate son of Francisca de Medeiros
Rezende (Resendes).

best,


On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:09 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> thank you margaret
>
> i can make out that his father is Francisco Medeiros de Resendes
>
> i don't see his mother listed - wonder where i could find her name
>
> her father is António Boteilho
>
> her mother is Victoria de Medeiros - i have seen her listed as Quitéria de
> Medeiros on another document
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> On Sun, 10/16/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
>  To: "azores" <azores@googlegroups.com>
>  Date: Sunday, October 16, 2016, 9:48 PM
>
>  Carmen,
>  the marriages for Agua Retorta prior to 1833 can be found in
>  Faial da Terra.
>  Here's your Jose Leandro.  His
>  name is Jose de Rezendes. Marriage date is 16-March-1820,
>  right side.
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-
> 1833_item1/P113.html
>
>  On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
>  6:39 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>  If you could post some marriages or send me what
>  you are looking for, I may be able to help you.
>  As it stands, I really don't who
>  you are looking for, and possible there is an error
>  somewhere.
>  JR
>
>  On
>  Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 5:38:56 PM UTC-4, carmen furtado
>  wrote:thank
>  you margaret
>
>
>
>  i just checked births for 1795
>
>
>
>  the closest i could find is this one for
>  may ? 1798
>
>
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov
>  .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV- AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-
>  PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_ item1/P33.html
>
>
>
>  father francisco de  rezendes
>
>
>
>  mother can't make out her name
>
>
>
>  no mention of liandro
>
>
>
>  anything that can help me know if this is
>  him
>
>
>
>  here is his wife's death
>
>
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov
>  .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV- AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879/SMG-
>  PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1870-1879_ item1/P84.html
>
>
>
>  june 23 1877
>
>
>
>  age 76
>
>
>
>  father antonio botelho
>
>
>
>  mother victoria de medeiros
>
>
>
>  i figure they got married about 1820 but
>  the books start at 1835 - bummer
>
>
>
>  thanks again
>
>
>
>  carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>  On Sun,
>  10/16/16, Margaret Vicente <margare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
>  WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
>
>   To: "azores" <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>
>   Date: Sunday,
>  October 16, 2016, 2:43 PM
>
>
>
>   Obit date
>
>   Dec 31 1839Jose Liandro (Leandro modern
>
>   spelling)residing in Lomba das Fagundas
>
>   44 years oldDied without a
>
>   will
>
>   No
>
>   parents' names given
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
>
>   1:48 PM, 'carmen furtado'
>  via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
>
>   wrote:
>
>   i've
>
>   been searching for days and hope this is
>  the one i need
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   http://culturacores.azores.
>
>   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG
>  - PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-1860/
>
>   SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-O-1835-
>  1860_item1/P38.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   jose liando
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   december 30 1839
>
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>
>   husband of francisca de medeiros
>
>
>
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>
>
>   what is his age?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   are his parents listed?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   many thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   i always spelled liandro with an e
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