RE: Looking for hotshot video develeopers to work at the BBC (was RE: [backstage] Fancy joining BBC RD?)
-Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts The Ingex jobs look splendid (continued insistence on using CVS for Ingex and libMXF notwithstanding... :) Heh -- well hopefully one of the first jobs of these two developers will be moving the codebase to a more modern version control system! 6 month fixed-term, though? isn't that pretty much the blink of an eye for the BBC? and, er, no salary+bens details? does the BBC not advertise externally the way every other company does? ;) It's more about the structure of the Ingex Solutions team and where it sits in the organisation: as we're just getting it started, we want to have the flexibility to move it around to different departments, or even move it outside to a proper spin-out if that opportunity becomes available in the ever-changing regulatory world of the BBC..! (sadly, even this aside, I'm not applying thanks to being thoroughly in the wrong part of the UK... so this really is just flinging from the peanut-gallery) Shame, I'm sure you'd be great for the role! We might have some one-off development jobs going every now and then, so if you are interested in working on the system, have the relevant experience, but don't want to apply for these roles in particular, then send me your CV! (That goes for anyone, not just Mo, of course!) We want these roles to be in London to (a) be near the main part of the research team and (b) be able to physically build Ingex boxes, go and sit with productions who at the moment are mostly in London, etc. As the group expands, roles may become available elsewhere. And of course if you're interested in becoming an independent Ingex partner and helping to support local productions in your part of the country, we would be very interested to hear from you. Regards, Brendan. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Looking for hotshot video develeopers to work at the BBC (was RE: [backstage] Fancy joining BBC RD?)
Ian wrote: Interested in what we do in RD? The following roles within RD are currently being advertised at: www.bbc.co.uk/jobs Senior Software Engineer Ingex Solutions (ref. 304587) Software Engineer Ingex Solutions (ref. 304588) Trainee Research Scientist (ref. NNP303403) Just to give a bit more info on the two Ingex Solutions jobs... We are looking for some superstar video software developers to work on our cutting-edge tapeless production system -- winner of the Innovation award at the Royal Television Society awards last year. We are taking it to the next level, from a research project to a real product, supported and maintained as a professional system, in partnership with some leading studios and production houses in the UK and around the world. We're looking for people who can... - code C++ with the best - understand the importance of the techniques for building rock solid software, including unit testing, automated functional testing and continuous integration systems - have developed against FFmpeg and/or commercial video handling libraries - know the internals of Linux, how to create build and deployment packages for different Linux flavours - have done systems-level programming with specialised hardware APIs (graphics cards, video cards etc) - know one or more Linux GUI systems (KDE/Qt, GNOME/GTk+ etc) We're looking for one senior and one more junior developer. You'll be working on real TV production projects, with some of the world's best researchers, in a startup-like environment. And you'll be learning a lot! Apply here: Senior Software Engineer http://tinyurl.com/3akelpj Software Engineer http://tinyurl.com/36m6q4d Applications for both positions close on 19th May. Please pass on to anyone who you think might be interested! Regards, Brendan. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Fwd: [IP] C-Span Puts Full Archives on the Web
You guys have seen this site, haven't you? http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/ You can search by transcript (even in welsh), it has all the local parliament channels, it archives everything that they recorded AFAIK, plus some old stuff they've added. Hopefully this goes at least part of the way towards meeting your needs... admittedly only for official parliament business, not for press conferences, doorstep interviews etc. Brendan. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 16 March 2010 13:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Fwd: [IP] C-Span Puts Full Archives on the Web I think it's a particular shame that we are about to have an election, and it would be just great if the whole campaign's News Channel output was retained on the iPlayer system, along with the TV debates and Question time. IMHO It would be a great service to the public if every single utterance that was made could be found and replayed, and possibly transferred to YouTube. Add to that a little bit of an index on the subtitles output of the News Channel and Bingo - real accountability. As I presume that the coverage will include lots of news conferences and PR events too, it would be great to hold these candidates to what they say during the election to the process afterwards, in particular if there is no party with a seat majority. On 16 March 2010 12:57, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:49, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: I understand that the BBC trash the output from the News channel after 28 days. Shame, really. Really? Christ. On a similar note, the whole PARLBUL/BBC Parliament structure really needs an overhaul. Wasn't terribly forward-thinking, that one :( - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] iPad
heh, we have a virtual steadicam system in RD that could address this problem (the motion sickness thing)... has anyone got Steve Jobs' phone number? From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Michael Kraskin Sent: 28 January 2010 13:49 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad I'd agree to a gentleman's wager that the second generation will have a front facing camera and a native application just for this purpose. - Original Message - From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Thu Jan 28 08:37:23 2010 Subject: RE: [backstage] iPad I can see why they didn't put a camera on it. Who's going to be bother holding the thing still enough to enable decent chat? It would be a nightmare to try and hold it out in front of your face and even worse for the person getting motion sickness on the other end. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Michael Kraskin Sent: 28 January 2010 13:28 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad Re camera, I want it for the exact same reason every single apple laptop has one. Not point and shoot, but video chat. And if developers do change because of this, that's great, and perhaps then it will make sense to buy one. - Original Message - From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Thu Jan 28 07:56:06 2010 Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:20, Michael Kraskin michael.kras...@bbc.com wrote: I think the no-Flash means that it a seriously crippled web browser. Hardly the best way to browse the internet, and thus will be a serious disappointment, not only to power users, but to casual internet surfers as well. As a user, the lack of Flash won't affect me much, if at all. fewer ads, and that's about it. The kids won't get near it, as CBeebies appears to be built almost entirely in Flash (much the same with Club Penguin), but I can't say I'd consider them not wanting to get their grubby fingers on it a bad thing (though there are plenty of games in the App Store they'd like instead). As a web developer, I can't remember the last time web developers influenced browsers and not the other way around. Can't see that one changing any time soon: if the iPad is successful, websites will stop relying on Flash being ubiquitous (either degrading where Flash isn't present, or doing something else entirely), assuming they and the iPad share customer demographics. The no-camera thing just screams wait for the second generation before you buy one Why on earth would you want a camera on a device whose form factor is utterly opposed to the hold-up-point-and-shoot facilities in mobile phones which made digital photography mainstream? Not saying you're wrong, just that I can't fathom it. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this
RE: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
This is still the coolest HTML5 video demo I have seen, even though it was made a couple of years ago... it works in FF 3.5+, and I think Chrome and Safari now: http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xh tml It does live featrue detection of the video stream using Javascript, and then rotates, resizes and maps another object (video, image, custom text, or even a little javascript pong animation) into the video, in real time! The best thing is that you can just view source to see the javascript used to make the magic happen...! Brendan. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Barry Carlyon Sent: 21 January 2010 11:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support This has been around for a while. Albeit in beta. Just waiting for browsers to catch up... On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10438578-248.html http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/01/introducing-youtube-html5-sup ported.html http://www.youtube.com/html5 The pressure's on! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Barry Carlyon Located Between Al-Jazeera and BBC Radio 1 SRA Chart Officer Webmaster: http://LSRfm.com - Leeds Student Radio http://barrycarlyon.co.uk mobile: 07729 048 443 office: 0113 380 1281 skype: barrycarlyon email: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk msn: ba...@barrycarlyon.co.uk
RE: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support
The second one obviously depends on SVG (the name is a bit of a giveaway :-) but from looking at the source of the mozilla demo, the only SVG is the rendering of the circle and triangle to make the play button. Shame that it didn't work in Safari... I suppose one thing Flash has in its favour is that it works across all common browsers... :-/ Brendan. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd Sent: 21 January 2010 14:02 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Youtube rolls out Html5 video support http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xh tml didn't work for me in Safari, http://my.opera.com/MacDev_ed/blog/2007/11/21/svg-at-the-movies-take-two is an Opera version, also from a few years ago, rotating, zooming video etc... iirc both URLs rely on SVG for the video, rather than HTML5 as it were... regards Jonathan Chetwynd
[backstage] NoSQL databases
Hi all, We have been asked if we know some people who are doing interesting things with the NoSQL family of databases... CouchDB, Tokyo Cabinet, Voldemort, etc etc. Any ideas or stories to tell? We have some people who can talk about the work we're doing on CouchDB but I'm sure there are many others out there too. Maybe Mario has some stories to tell? Brendan. -- Brendan Quinn | Technology Transfer Executive | BBC Research Development Broadcast Centre BC4 B6, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane London W12 7TP brendan.qu...@bbc.co.uk | +44 20 800 85097 | +44 7900 847 358
RE: [backstage] Redux and iPlayer
Redux does the encoding for the iphone version. Redux takes the broadcast feed off the air, rather than from Red bee -- this explains why the iphone clips have trails, continuity announcements etc which the regular download and streamed versions don't have. Encoding for the other (non-iphone) services is done by Red Bee from material used for broadcast playout*. So you're right on both fronts -- there are basically (at least) two parallel chains. I'm sure Alex would love to do a blog post and/or a presentation on slideshare about how the iPlayer encoding chain works, it's not easy getting every programme into formats that can be played in 23 different flavours! Right, mate?! Brendan. * well my knowledge isn't 100% up to date but I think that's still how it works. I wouldn't be surprised if all those new platforms mean that it's even more complicated than that... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] free london's data event
Help us free London's Data Saturday 24th October 2009 10.00 am London's Living Room City Hall The Queens Walk London SE1 2AA The Greater London Authority is currently in the process of scoping London's DataStore. Initially we propose to release as much GLA data as possible and to encourage other public agencies in London to do the same and we'd like your help! We want the input of the developer community from the outset prior to making any decisions on formats or platform. We would therefore like to invite interested developers to City Hall so that we can talk to you about what we want to do, get your views, and seek your input on the best way to deliver for London. On the day we'll be running a requirements specification workshop and a high level technical design session to explore how we might do this in a way that makes sense for the end users - you. The event will take place in London's Living Room at 10 am on the morning of Saturday 24th October. If you would like to attend please register your interest. http://freelondonsdata.eventbrite.com/ -- Brendan Quinn | Technology Transfer Executive | BBC Research Development Broadcast Centre BC4 B6, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane London W12 7TP brendan.qu...@bbc.co.uk | +44 20 800 85097 | +44 7900 847 358 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Freeview HD vs existing HDMI upscaling freeview boxes (was RE: [backstage] License to Kill Innovation: the Broadcast Flag for UK Digital TV?)
Alan wrote: I assume my topfield HD will be out of date with these proposed changes? Ant replied: You'll need to retune, but the services you currently get on Freeview should still be available. Think of Freeview + as an optional upgrade. To which Alun wrote: I meant in terms of the HD element if they are changing the spec? If there is a decryption requirement I doubt the Topfield will have it? I would say you're right, your box wont' receive HD freeview signals. But that's not (only) because of any encryption, it's because the spec for encoding HD over freeview [1] was only agreed last week and the first box was announced five days ago, to be released in the first half of 2010: http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2009/09/12/pace-unveils-dvb-t2-freeview-h d-box/ I guess you have this box [2]: http://www.topfield.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=1 0catid=2Itemid=3 It uses HDMI upscaling to work with your HD TV. But it's not actually processing the real freeview HD signal and never can -- your box needs different chips to be able to do that. So to actually see Freeview HD in HD, you will need to buy a new box :-( HTH, Brendan. [1] known as DVB-T2. The DVB are the standards committee for most TV standards in Europe, India, Australia etc. The BBC is a member. DVB-T was the standard for regular freeview, so DVB-T2 is the standard for next-gen freeview: the T is for terrestrial. You can guess that DVB-C is for cable and DVB-S is for satellite... They also have C2 and S2 standards for HD over those platforms. [2] URL edited for brevity -- yes it was much longer than that before -- but it seems to work... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Get me off this list!
Ian was off hobnobbing at conferences yesterday, so I raised a call with ops. Apparently they had issues with their email so they didn't receive the message (irony etc). I now have a call number and they're on to it. We will let you know when we have some news. Brendan (now in RD, but not officially on Backstage, I'm just helping out :-) From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Zen Sent: 11 September 2009 15:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Get me off this list! PLEASE - I second this! On 11 Sep 2009, at 15:03, Simon Cross wrote: Me too. Can someone please fix the unsubscribe? S On 10/09/2009 15:05, Alun Rowe alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk x-msg://35/alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk wrote: Visiting this: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html Then putting in my details and pressing GO sends me to http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/cgiemail/creativearchive/backstage/discuss. txt Which says: Error No email was sent due to an error. 500 Could not open template - No such file or directory /home/system/www/creativearchive/backstage/discuss.txt cgiemail 1.6 Help! -- Simon Cross Product Manager, BBC iD Online Media Group, Future Media and Technology, BC4 C4, Broadcast Centre, White City simon.cr...@bbc.co.uk x-msg://35/simon.cr...@bbc.co.uk 07967 444 304 twitter: sicross
Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable
I waited for him to cite the example of the BBC as a model that could survive the Internet revolution... but he didn't, surely because in the USA there is no equivalent. To be fair he does mention NPR as a successful model (or at least a less unsuccessful one). National Public Radio is a radio network funded by donations and voluntary subscriptions (with some government funding as well). PBS TV has the same funding model, and both services are regarded as the main source of highbrow content in the US. Americans routinely think of the BBC as the PBS/NPR of the UK, which is both gratifying (they are associated with high quality media) and frustrating (PBS/NPR content can often be seen as too worthy or righteous, and equating the two doesn't convey the sheer scale and scope of the BBC) Brendan. Sean DALY wrote: http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/newspapers-and-thinking-the-unthinkable/ I was fascinated by this piece. Example: Society doesn’t need newspapers. What we need is journalism. I waited for him to cite the example of the BBC as a model that could survive the Internet revolution... but he didn't, surely because in the USA there is no equivalent. I concur with his viewpoint that business models are being broken faster than new ones can be invented. Sean. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Freeing up Postcodes, etc
it's royal mail... they have to keep themselves in business somehow! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 22 July 2008 13:17 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Freeing up Postcodes, etc Why do they have to POST it to you? 2008/7/22 Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sadly, the BBC's intentions to release it in-house geo-location API was long ago stymied by various licencing nightmares (It's been 'coming soon' since May 2005 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/PostcoderApI?v=msy ) However, good news for those who fancy playing with postcodes, addresses and associated geolocation goodness: the full Royal Mail Postcode PAF file is available to those entering the Cabinet Office's ShowUsABetterWay.com data re-use competition.
RE: [backstage] More good news .. BBC to build web page for every TV show, says Jana Bennett
As I don't think anyone has specifically said yet, there was some actual news in Ms Bennett's announcement last week: the plan to merge /programmes and the Infax catalogue (the now-defunct catalogue.bbc.co.uk). This means that detailed information about every show we've ever broadcast will be available through the lovely /programmes interface, with all the cast-lists, schedule information, and billing info (actually much better descriptions than the listings from the radio times, though it would be nice if they were included as well...) Hope that helps to clear up those nasty coughs! Brendan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Reynolds-FMT Sent: 16 June 2008 09:38 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] More good news .. BBC to build web page for every TV show, says Jana Bennett that cough of yours is catching http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/a_page_for_every_programm e_1.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/03/programmes_a_bite_size_de sign_1.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2008/05/helping_machines_play_with_ pro.shtml From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of James Cridland Sent: Fri 13/06/2008 7:55 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] More good news .. BBC to build web page for every TV show, says Jana Bennett On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jun/10/bbc.digitalmedia BBC to build web page for every TV show, says Jana Bennett A brilliant idea by the sounds of things. Cough http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes (a page for every programme, tv or radio) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeh, this way it will also be easier (if they implement it, which I hope they do) to find iPlayer episodes via the programme page rather than iplayer interface. Cough http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/genres/childrens/entertainmentandcomedy/ player (a page showing, for example, all childrens entertainment on the iPlayer, tv or radio) I must get this cough seen to
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer, loved by millions, disliked by a single US citizen
Hi Tom, You wrote: the public value test is a one way expansion valve, only allowing for new BBC services, never testing existing BBC services to see if they still make sense. That's right, existing services aren't put through a PVT -- that's what the service licence is for, isn't it? http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/framework/bbc_service_licences/bbc_co_uk_s ervice_licence.html The Trust are actually reviewing the online service licence right now... http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/framework/bbc_service_licences/bbc_co_uk.h tml Ready to be published in Spring 2008, ie any day now, I suppose. Brendan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Loosemore Sent: 30 April 2008 12:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer, loved by millions, disliked by a single US citizen New BBC services now have to go through a market impact assessment to ensure they are not anti competitive: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/framework/public_value_test/#part-5 but existing BBC services (ie everything other than iPlayer and BBC HD) have not been and will not be subject to such rigour... the public value test is a one way expansion valve, only allowing for new BBC services, never testing existing BBC services to see if they still make sense. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Music in TV programs
Hi Catherine, I know that the team behind /programmes is trying to dig up as much information as they can to add to programme pages, and they have found some info around incidental music, I believe with the people who answer emails/phone calls from license payers. They are currently doing the usual thing of working through all the red tape, database inconsistencies, etc etc so hopefully the incidental music listings will make it onto /programmes and the programme catalogue eventually. I know this doesn't help you in the short term, so it could be worth sending a question via this page [1]. It seems that they do answer some questions about incidental music, see [2]. Please don't abuse this service. As the contact us form says, we serve thousands of requests every day, and the more money we spend on answering questions, the less we can spend on doing cool things like releasing source code and building APIs for you. Good luck finding your tunes! Brendan. [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/feedback/ [2] http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/contactus/questions.shtml#whour -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2008 15:04 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Music in TV programs Hi Not sure if this is the place for this question but I've not been able to find the answer anywhere else. Does the BBC or any broadcaster for that matter publish the music that is played during programs. There have been quite a few times when I have some music played and would love to be able to buy it. Its not too bad when its pop or rock because I can always google the Lyrics but when its a classical piece that can be a struggle. I would have thought that a record would have to be kept for royalty payments but is it published. If its not published is there any reaon why not surely it could be a money spinner for the record companies. Thanks Catherine Jones - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Licensing of BBC open source code (was RE: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software)
We haven't used a custom license for releasing code yet, and I don't see why we should start now... http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/licensing.shtml -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 05 December 2007 11:49 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software On 04/12/2007, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I expect the BBC will use an in house licence to fit it's needs as set out in the charter. I strongly hope that the BBC will not contribute to the problem of license proliferation. As an aside I still don't understand the need for GPLv3, as far as I can it just adds confusion and is actually LESS free than GPLv2 (this isn't meant to be trolling or flamebait, just a personal opinion). http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html explains. -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Speed of bbc.co.uk? (was RE: [backstage] Future of BBC's iPlayer in doubt - Sunday Herald - Kangaroo ...)
That's interesting, does anyone else find bbc.co.uk to be any slower than other sites? I can't imagine why anyone in Durham (where this commenter said they lived) would have a particularly bad experience with bbc.co.uk, even JANET users should have fairly good bandwidth links and our servers certainly aren't running at capacity on a normal day... While I know there's a lot we could do to speed up the experience of bbc.co.uk users, we certainly don't think we're slower than the average site. What does everyone else think? Brendan. PS I'm not going to comment on the Glasgow Herald article! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 02 December 2007 13:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Future of BBC's iPlayer in doubt - Sunday Herald - Kangaroo venture with ITV and C4 places question mark over standalone service [A] truly odd comment... hi this seems like a great initative! Online and flexible is the way forward. However I hope that BBC does NOT give up on fixing the bugs in its system. It is the SLOWEST website i have ever used. plus the downlaod doesnt work for me and there doesnt seem any way of getting support from the bbc to fix this. I really hope they read this!
RE: [backstage] Hmm...
Wow, this might mean that we're, er, encouraged to let indies build sites for bbc.co.uk in such a way that their HTML, images, and even server-side code can be picked up and carried away to any other web host in the world... It could call for a new inter-site protocol for describing and building websites... OpenSocial on steroids, perhaps..? Brendan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Loosemore Sent: 26 November 2007 17:18 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Hmm... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/nov/26/bbc.television3 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 23 November 2007 14:55 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Podcasts Including Music What Podcasts (if any) are people listening to? See this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/siteusage/#downloads The actual data table is a GIF, for some reason...! At least that means you can go back to previous months' data easily, eg: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/siteusage/images/downloads_jul07.gif Brendan. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Uploading the BBC programme catalogue to freebase (was RE: [backstage] Programme Catalogue vs. Freebase (was: BBC Programme Catalogue -any APIs yet?))
I was considering entering a hack for Hack Day around that very thing. But then they went and made me one of the judges ;-) Wanna help? A simple set of scripts that scrape the archive (er I mean call that big RESTful API) and post entries/updates to the freebase sandbox server would be an interesting experiment. I agree that freebase is an amazing resource, especially when the programme data is curated properly: compare http://www.freebase.com/view/?id=%239202a8c04000641f80012406 with http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/series/DOCTOR+WHO ! There may be some rights issues around what would basically amount to opening up the programme catalogue under the creative commons attribution license, where the attribution wouldn't go to the BBC but to Freebase... Brendan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Cole Sent: 09 July 2007 20:51 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Programme Catalogue vs. Freebase (was: BBC Programme Catalogue -any APIs yet?) I've been following the Programme Catalogue since it was announced, and its pretty interesting. I do however have a question for the BBC people on the list - have you considered simply uploading all the information to Freebase[1]? I can understand that you might want to keep it in house, but if you merged it with the wealth of information on Freebase you can do exponentially more. For example, if it was properly integrated you could run a query that would tell me how many of the contributors to Spooks series 2 were born in London. Regards, Oli [1] http://www.freebase.com - A very cool structured database, currently handling 2.3 million instances of 870 'types' - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] openID on the BBC
Thanks Christopher, that's interesting. We've been thinking along similar lines in some initial brainstorming (although I'm not au fait with Simon W's latest work) -- if you think of OpenID as an identification framework rather than an authentication framework then some possibilities open up. Keep the ideas coming, please :-) Brendan. PS to be clear, Simon has been commissioned to write a report on how the BBC might use OpenID in the future. We're not necessarily committing to it or endorsing it as a technology, though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 05 June 2007 13:52 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] openID on the BBC I run my own PHP OpenID server on another of my domains (christopher.woods.name - I bought it and failed to have a use for it until suddenly I realised it'd make the perfect domain for an OpenID identity :) However, I've noted that there's already been issues raised amongst the blogosphere (and web in general) about security vulnerabilities within the authentication mechanism for OpenID, and several proof of concepts have been published showing how an attacker can spoof an ID and therefore become logged in to any OpenID-based services... I wouldn't really want the BBC to solely rely on something like vanilla OpenID where it's already been shown to be broken. Maybe if they paired the OpenID concept with their existing authentication system - so you'd still have to authenticate with them, but you'd have the advantages of an OpenID-based platform with which the users can manage their own details, that'd be interesting. The OpenID backend would have to be secured though, which would involve coding and changes by the BBC's webteam, I wouldn't use it unless it could be proved to be invulnerable against the previous attack vectors published in the past. -Original Message- From: Michael Smethurst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2007 10:13 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] openID on the BBC pure_gossip mr willison was seen emerging from a bbc corner office with what looked like sso people only t'other week... /pure_gossip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jason Cartwright Sent: Tue 6/5/2007 9:39 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] openID on the BBC OpenID is an excellent thing, but it still seems too complicated to explain to a consumer. Getting the BBC involved in sorting that problem out can only be a good thing. Lots of cool openid stuff from Simon Willison over here: http://simonwillison.net/tags/openid/ J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cobb Sent: 05 June 2007 07:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] openID on the BBC Did anyone else see this article on openID? http://www.nik.com.au/archives/2007/03/12/openid-too-many-prov iders-not- enough-consumers/ (Suddenly I've got the fear that this HAS already been done here- too many lists to remember! - anyway I shall plough on as if it hadn't) The article's basic thrust, as I understand it, is that whilst openID is A Good Thing, there aren't enough sites offering to be merely 'consumers' of openID. Most don't want users signing in with details that are locked to an alternative service, they wish to control users' personal data. But it struck me that the BBC is positioned to take advantage of openID since it doesn't have any commercial motivation to lock customers in. And further, it allows uers to choose which authentication provider they want, promoting user choice and lastly, it means the amount of personal data the BBC gathers is reduced. In return this could drive uptake of openID as other sites see a major broadcaster using it. Of course, for those folks who don't have an account with any other openID provider, they can use a proprietary BBC authentication system (lets call it SSO, heh). I can only see advantages to deploying openID on the BBC - have I missed something? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] A decent editorially-ordered BBC News feed?
perhaps there are caching issues? I just tried the two links that you sent (from inside the BBC firewall so YMMV): http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/default.stm 1. Blaze ravages historic Cutty Sark http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_6675000/6675381.stm? Police are investigating a fire which ripped though the historic clipper the Cutty Sark causing extensive damage. 2. Lebanon clashes 'kill civilians' http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_6676000/6676291.stm? At least eight civilians die as Lebanese troops shell Islamist militants at a refugee camp, officials there say. 3. No 10 defends Hodge housing call http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_6676000/6676471.stm? Downing Street defends Margaret Hodge's right to call for British residents to get priority in council housing. compared with http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/front_page/rss.xml 1. Blaze ravages historic Cutty Sark Police are investigating a fire which ripped though the historic clipper the Cutty Sark causing extensive damage. 2. Lebanon clashes 'kill civilians' At least eight civilians die as Lebanese troops shell Islamist militants at a refugee camp, officials there say. 3. No 10 defends Hodge housing call Downing Street defends Margaret Hodge's right to call for British residents to get priority in council housing. so it looks good to me... The only time-ordered news feed of which I'm aware is this: http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/latest_published_stor ies/rss.xml Brendan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 21 May 2007 13:26 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A decent editorially-ordered BBC News feed? It's not ordered editorially; it's ordered by time of last update of that story. So, right now: http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/front_page/rss.xml - Blaze ravages historic Cutty Sark - Terror charge man freed on bail - High marks for six forms But http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/default.stm - Blaze ravages historic Cutty Sark - Lebanon clashes 'kill civilians' - No 10 defends Hodge housing call ... and these are the top three stories, too, on http://news.bbc.co.uk/ Latest news != most important news. On 5/21/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/front_page/rss.xml This is ordered editorially. Is the widget messing with it? Am I missing something? J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 21 May 2007 12:47 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] A decent editorially-ordered BBC News feed? Since I'm at home tending a cold, I thought I'd do some reconfiguring of my iGoogle page (that's what they insist on calling the Google personalised homepage these days - Steve Jobs has a lot to answer for). I thought I might look at the current BBC News gadgets, and write a nicer one (which gives the text as well as just the headline). But - am I alone in finding the BBC News RSS feeds slightly wanting? The three big items on the BBC News (UK) front page right now are: - Blaze ravages Cutty Sark - Fresh clashes in Northern Lebanon - No 10 defends Hodge housing call However, the top three items on the BBC News UK front page RSS feed right now are: - Lebanon clashes 'kill civilians' - Cameron attacks grammar 'fantasy' - Jail term for Khaleda Zia adviser Essentially, that RSS feed is useless as a feed for the top three stories right now. Is there a way I can get an RSS feed sorted in editorial order, rather than just time-added order? The top three stories exist on http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ and the top story lives on the Radio 4 website, so it's presumably possible. Indeed, http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/default.stm contains, with the HRs, exactly what I'd like in my Google Gadget. So is this available for mere mortals to use? -- http://james.cridland.net/ -- http://james.cridland.net/
RE: [backstage] The real backstage story?
From: Mr I Forrester This is a excellent idea and I would like to reveal that the new site will in the future have a better way to tell these stories. In the meantime you might be interested in some slides we presented at the Innovation Labs intro sessions last year... Check out the Tech Team presentation slides here: http://open.bbc.co.uk/labs/2007_the_brief.php They're a bit rough and ready (sorry Mark!); we have a newer version of those slides but they doesn't seem to be available on the public-facing site. Brendan. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Developer Day
Maybe you could ask Kim to use her l33t s3w1ng sk1llz to mash the two t-shirts together, 2.0 stylee?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gareth rushgrove Sent: 19 April 2007 17:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Schmitt On 3/26/07, Brendan Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pre-recorded subtitling works differently, obviously -- they can take time to pause the playout and get it right. Most of these subtitlers are ex-courtroom steganographers. /giggles this may LOOK like just a gallery of cute kittens in boxes, but the whole transcript of the OJ Simpson trial has been clever hidden in there! -K Oh yeah! Perhaps I meant stenographers I've obviously been reading too much Neal Stephenson recently ;-) Brendan. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics
[just saw jase's post, but dammit I've typed this out now, so I'm posting!] Red Bee Media (née BBC Broadcast) does all our subtitling. I was having a beer with someone who used to work in their subtitling area the other day, and got an interesting explanation of how it works. They actually do use voice recognition systems, but the systems are trained to recognise only one voice reliably, so the subtitlers spend months and months in front of the computer saying strange words until the system is trained to their voice. Then they take short shifts listening to the live broadcast and repeating any voices they hear into the system, which then magically converts their speech into text. They can pre-load the system with the types of words they are likely to hear given the type of show, but with some shows the subject range can be so diverse that they have to leave the domain filter wide open and thus have less accuracy on word matching. Pre-recorded subtitling works differently, obviously -- they can take time to pause the playout and get it right. Most of these subtitlers are ex-courtroom steganographers. There are a few case studies etc here: http://www.redbeemedia.com/access/subtitling.shtml Someone from RBM might like to chip in here with more explanations, in the spirit of information sharing... Of course, Other Subtitling Providers Are Available (er... I think?!) Brendan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 26 March 2007 17:53 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics Here's a thought regarding subtitling - I know that manual subtitling or on-the-fly subtitling of live programmes has come along leaps and bounds, with voice recognition technology (which sometimes kicks up amusing misunderstandings, but seems to work very well) - how long do you think it'll be before it's all fully automatic, with the software performing voice recognition on the actual soundtrack in realtime? After seeing the lip reading segment on the last Click, it got me thinking... Who does the Beeb's subs now? -Original Message- From: Jason Cartwright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2007 17:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics The annual report designers like big numbers too.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/review_report_r esearch/bb cannualreport.pdf Lots of boxes saying interesting things like: 56% of children in Great Britain aged 7-15 accessed bbc.co.uk/CBBC in December 2005 91.6% of programming on BBC One was subtitled in 2005/2006 etc etc J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 26 March 2007 17:26 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics Something I noticed earlier today - the BBC News pages show how many pages have been served in the past minute, and that cycles round with other facts about the site... When I was looking earlier this morning (around middayish) it showed over 73,000 pages served THAT MINUTE - that's insane! Right now it's saying 82,357 people are reading stories on the site right now. ! Sometimes I forget just how massive the audience is for the beebnews pages... -Original Message- From: Richard Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2007 11:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC site statistics I've always found that the more technical or geeky a site is, the higher %age of non-IE users you'll find. For a consumer website - IE all the way. Which goes to prove my point that real people use IE, geeks use Firefox. :-) Yesterday's stats from a (very much consumer-orientated) site that I manage: IE (total) 87.3% made up of: IE 5.5 - 0.1% IE 6 - 40.1% IE 7 - 47.1% Safari - 0.8% Opera - 0.6% FF (all flavours) - 11.3% Not a single hit from anything else. Cheers, R. On 3/26/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for the record, I have a UK-focused site, so I have these figures for March 2007: www.ukfree.tv Internet explorer is 66% of all traffic. of which 7.0 52% (34.63% of total); 6.0 47% (31.4% of total), 5.0 (0.8% of total) (Firefox is 28.78% of total, Opera 1% of total) On the OS front, I get Windows NT/XP/Vista: 88%, Mac 4.8%, Windows 98 2.85 and XWindows 1.26% Hope this is useful too. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 25 March 2007 16:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC site statistics On 3/23/07, Allan Jardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm
RE: WEB API (was Re: [backstage] Noise and Signal)
The Dublin Core in RDF/XML spec has this example: rdf:Description dc:titleInternet Ethics/dc:title dc:creatorDuncan Langford/dc:creator dc:formatBook/dc:format dc:identifierISBN 0333776267/dc:identifier /rdf:Description - http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmes-xml/ http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmes-xml/ http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmes-xml/ But I'm sure there would be a way of using Dublin Core to qualify the scheme of the identifier as ISBN, and then just include the number to make it more meaningful and easier to detect and parse... the easiest way might be to put it in the HTML meta tags, eg link rel=schema.dc href=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/ http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/ / link rel=schema.dcterms href=http://purl.org/dc/terms/; / meta name=dc.title content=Internet Ethics/ meta name=dc.identifier scheme=dcterms.ISBN content=0333776267/ [1] along the lines of http://dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/ http://dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/ Note that we're trying to do things like that on bbc.co.uk, the Search Metadata Standards now recommend this style of embedding Dublin Core data in our pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/newmedia/desed/searchmetadata.shtml Over time we'll add more metadata about our pages as it becomes widely available: subjects, locations, people, programmes... And of course the next step is to actually structure our content so that you (and we) can parse out interesting things. The semantic markup standard is our first baby steps towards that world: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/newmedia/technical/semantic_markup.shtml Of course, outputting the data with ids and classes is the easy bit, the hard bit is building the systems that allow journalists and programme makers to easily mark up their content to an extremely wide range of possible content structures, and then convince them that it's worth the extra time to use it properly...! Brendan. [1] I'm making up the dcterms.ISBN bit, because the Dublin Core page says that the identifying URI for ISBN [2] is yet to be defined. Anyone else see the irony? [2] http://dublincore.org/documents/library-application-profile/index.shtml# ISBN http://dublincore.org/documents/library-application-profile/index.shtml #ISBN [3] [3] Are you supposed to make footnotes of footnotes?! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 07 March 2007 12:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: WEB API (was Re: [backstage] Noise and Signal) On 3/7/07, J.P.Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Andy Leighton wrote: For A Good Read there is nothing in the synopsis at all listing the books covered in that programme. There is a list of past (inc. the current programme) books chosen on the A Good Read micro-site - but again without any sort of markup. Would it be too difficult for someone to use something like span class=booktitleThe Rider/span by span class=authorTim Krabbe/span It could do with an ISBN or two in there as well - that would make tying the books to other, non-BBC bibliographic systems easier (such as library OPACs, OCLC WorldCat or LibraryThing). I'm only tentatively playing with these sorts of things at the moment, so I could be wrong, but might it be possible to include this, and all the other metadata mentioned, using the Dublin Core spec embedded as eRDF or RDFa within the html? since Dublin Core is an open spec this'd be great for interoperability, I imagine... cheers, Tim
RE: [backstage] DRM
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glyn Wintle Sent: 24 January 2007 09:17 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] DRM --- Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you come up with a solution to distribute content that satisfies all the requirements of the relevant rights holders then there is whole industry of people willing to give you money. Otherwise, its Windows Media Player DRM all the way if you want to want to get at that content at all, legally. Put a digital watermark in the content linked to the users details. It not a perfect solution, but if any one thinks DRM is a perfect solution I would be happily show them how to strip the DRM out, if it was not for the fact I don't want to annoy Ian. :) See this story for an example of it already happening. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070119-8657.html A decent, per-user watermarking system is seriously something that would perk up the interest of a lot of people both inside the BBC and in the wider media community. Thanks for the link, that article is an interesting description of the tech. I think the people here who are right into this stuff have heard of Streamburst, and that there are other people doing similar things, but I'll check to make sure. If someone can come up with a massively scaleable way of watermarking content for individual users as they stream or download content, and (just as importantly) a fraud-detection system of some sort that notices clips on YouTube, BitTorrent etc and detects the watermarks in them so that we can enforce the membership rules, then we could be a step closer to an alternative to DRM. Of course a big factor is that individually treating up the files as they are streamed/downloaded would be much more hardware-intensive than simply encrypting something once and then offering it up for download via a DRM system. So cost effectiveness is definitely an issue. Brendan. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Our Tom's 15 web principles for the BBC
http://www.tomski.com/archive/new_archive/63.html Not really news to you folks, this started off with the discussions Kim kicked off here way back in July, but I think point 9 relates to current discussions quite well... Brendan :-) -- Brendan Quinn | Technical Architect | bbc.co.uk Broadcast Centre BC5 B6, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane London W12 7TP [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +44 (0)20 800 85097 | +44 (0)7900 847 358
thetimewhen.co.uk/rss/ - now with added metadata (was RE: [backstage] The Time When - new feeds!)
Title: The Time When - new feeds! Hi everyone, Thanks to Matt Hurst among others for commenting on the lack of metadata in thetimewhen.co.uk's RSS feed [1]. We needed a push. Well we've got it now!Several types of metadata were added to the feeds yesterday. We have added user tags as dc:subject elements, location tags as dcterms:spatial elements, and the actual date of the entry as dcterms:temporal. The format of the tags is a little strange to the unititiated -- particularly the dcterms:temporal one, which conforms to the latest version of the dcterms RSS 1.0 module spec ([2]) by saying dcterms:temporalstart=1997-07-01; end=1997-07-01; scheme=W3C-DTF;/dcterms:temporal Sorry but you'll have to parse the date out of that. We're not totally wedded to that format, and there is much debate in the RSS 1.0/ RDF community as to which format is preferred. Even Tim himself weighed in to the discussion [3]! We'll let you know via Backstage if we change the format in the future. dc:date will continue to represent the date that the entry was created, in keeping withevery other use of RSS. The Dublin Core standard says that dcterms:temporal [4] is the right place to store the date that the content is *about*. Enjoy! Now let's see some SIMILE Timeline [5] implementations :-) Please let us know what other kinds of feeds you would like to see on thetimewhen.co.uk, it's still only a trial and not a lot of work is being done on it, but if you can convince us that you would build some beautiful things if only you had the right data, I might be able to get something onto the work slate... Happy hacking, Brendan. [1]http://www.thetimewhen.co.uk/rss/ [2] http://web.resource.org/rss/1.0/modules/dcterms/#temporal [3]http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/2006-09-12.html#T17-04-01[4] http://www.dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#temporal [5] http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim PlowrightSent: 11 August 2006 16:54To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: [backstage] The Time When - new feeds! http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/08/memo_4_new.html Enjoy. And dont forget applications for the running backstage job shut on Monday! Kim Plowright | Snr. Producer, New Product Development BBC Interactive Drama and Entertainment | MC1D6, BBC Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London, W12 7TQ
Note on feed hostnames (was RE: [backstage] Hourly news flashes via IM)
Okay thanks Jon. Let me know if you come up with anything. To clarify a point from my previous post, anything from News Online (ie content from news.bbc.co.uk) hosts its feeds on newsrss.bbc.co.uk, and you should continue to use that hostname. But for feeds originally on www.bbc.co.uk, we request that you change the hostname in your URLs to feeds.bbc.co.uk. Hope that clears things up for anyone who was wondering :-) Happy hacking, Brendan. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] What's playing now...
In the meantime couldn't somebody parse the DAB feed of the radio networks on Freeview, extract the livetext feed from there, and republish it onto the web? If somebody wants a little hardware/software hacking project and has a multi-channel Freeview card for their PC, it shouldn't be too difficult... Brendan :-) -- Brendan Quinn | Technical Architect | bbc.co.uk Broadcast Centre BC5 B6, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane London W12 7TP [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +44 (0)20 800 85097 | +44 (0)7900 847 358 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Hill Sent: 26 July 2005 09:59 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] What's playing now... No info from LiveText on to the web just yet, tho we did a trial with 6 Music recently which was pretty successful in terms of synching delivery etc. We'll be looking to deliver this for sure (tho initially in some kind of Flash implementation probably, due to the characteristics of LiveText - sorry Dave et al! - though we'll also be exploring using LiveText archives etc) ... Also note that LiveText won't be the only way of discerning track now playing - that could also be inferred from tracklistings pages etc. - which we're also trying to tighten up/automate. Bear with us while we roll across 10 national networks, broadcasting whatever they like, 24 hours a a day :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hirst Sent: 25 July 2005 18:56 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] What's playing now... Thnx for the info, dan. track now playing in LiveText - the scrolling text you see on a DAB Digital Radio LCD screen or when listening to the radio over our DTT Freeview services etc. That kind of information (The track now playing is...) is also available across several networks on LiveText does LiveText get fed to the web anywhere at all (even as a diagnostic?), or is a MAKE involving a DAB radio, hacking the display to generate acsii, and then pushing that to the web via a server the only way to do it at the mo? ;-) tony --- SEE THE WICKED ROBOT INVASION MAP http://www.wickedrobots.co.uk/ --- Mail tags: --- Tony Hirst mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://micro-info.blogspot.com/ Dept. of ICT, Faculty of Technology Open University, Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA, UK Tel: +44 (0)19086 52789, m./SMS 07709 766223 http://robofesta.open.ac.uk/tony http://www.robofesta-uk.org - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
