Re: A New Vocabulary for the Berner-L
Dear Maria, Thank you for the advice about posting to the Berner-L about the new vocabulary that is necessary because of the new rigid spam filters. As you suggest, I'll be looking for "MANY LAVISH BESTOWALS" over the next month and a half during the 5th Annual Berner-Garde Fundraiser. We want to make this one of the best fundraisers ever Joye Neff and Nick (and Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
RE: Pippy Longstockings
Greg, I've seen Berners with white markings all the way up past the elbows, and others with no white on their legs at all. So markings won't really tell you much one way or another. You'll know a good deal more as Pippy grows, any idea just how old she might be? Pippy is a very lucky girl - bless you for finding room in your heart and your home for a shelter girl! She's obviously attracted a very nice human, which makes her a Berner in my book! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Pippy Longstockings
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Re: BERNER-L digest 4492
It is clear that Cabela's is simply sending the same canned responses to everyone. When I asked specifically if their breeders would take back a puppy if the new impulse-driven owner changed her mind, there was no response. I'll assume the answer. Very disturbing. Cathy Putnam - Original Message - From: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4492 > > BERNER-L Digest 4492 > > Topics covered in this issue include: > > 1) Re: BERNER-L digest 4491 > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2) Help with pack issues > by "Deborahr34" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3) Re: Help with pack issues > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 4) Re: Help with pack issues > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 5) Utility training > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 6) Re: Help with pack issues > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 7) Re: Help with pack issues > by "Eileen Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 8) Cancer-free! > by "Lorece Aitken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9) help for pack issues--more > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 10) Cabela's > by Rhona Vantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 11) Re: BERNER-L digest 4491 > by "Annika Dobrski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12) Use of Sherpa Bags > by "gabig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 13) Note to Dogs > by "Karyn Waugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 14) Re: BERNER-L digest 4491 > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 15) FW: Selling pups in the store is bad practice <<#18-415177#>> > by Sylvia Katvala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 16) RE: Allergies > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 17) Fw: puppies for sale <<#222895-416117#>> > by "Amy Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 18) Fw: puppies for sale <<#222895-416117#>> > by "Amy Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 19) Fw: questionable tactics <<#221735-414501#>> > by "Jeanne Schoech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
Re: A New Vocabulary for the Berner-L
Oops, I meant MORTGAGE > > But I fear that using terms such as "Family Jewels", "The Money Bags" or > "Lavish Bestowal" will either inundate the list with spam from Morgage > Refinancers or even worse, Mr. Gold Kutah, Makaya Basu or Bello Ahmed. And > that was just today. > > Your innovation is laudable, my dear "Female Sweetheart" > > Janice Parky > Cape Cod, MA >
Re: A New Vocabulary for the Berner-L
Nice try, Maria, But I fear that using terms such as "Family Jewels", "The Money Bags" or "Lavish Bestowal" will either inundate the list with spam from Morgage Refinancers or even worse, Mr. Gold Kutah, Makaya Basu or Bello Ahmed. And that was just today. Your innovation is laudable, my dear "Female Sweetheart" Janice Parky Cape Cod, MA > 1. The word we use for female Berners that rhymes with ditch should be > retired. Use "girl", "sweetheart" or "female" > > 2. The biologically correct name for the male ... um ... this is harder > than I thought ... lower appendage with which future progeny are happily > effected ... should be referred to as Mr. Willie or The Joy Stick. The > attendent two sac o' suds should be referred to as Family Jewels; or, if you > are a very fortunate breeder, The Money Bags. > > 3. Any words that describe the actual act of breeding should be substituted > with "Getting Lucky;" or, if you are an optimistic breeder, > "Fructification." > > 4. The word that refers to the male being used in a breeding (it rhymes with > "dud") should be substituted with "Happy Boy." > > Sadly, the one word in the subject line that caused the most rejected > deliveries of the Berner-L digest was "donation." I'm sure Joye Neff will > be crestfallen to hear about this. Spam software is able to sniff out any > word remotely charitable. Thus, I suggest substituting "lavish bestowal."
RE: A New Vocabulary for the Berner-L
Dear Maria, You are perfectly correct, many people have porn and spam editors on their email, and the resultant errors from rejections are often quite intriguing. I have often had to reread emails in order to determine what the offending word might be. I think your proposal has a great deal of merit, and will also help when list members have visiting grandchildren asking for definitions of some words. I do like the idea of using an alternative grouping of words. Sweetheart and Girl do work well for the word that rhymes with "rich", and I do like Joy Stick and the Family Jewels. So using your new vocabulary system, we would let the "Happy Boy" "Get Lucky" with the "Sweetheart" in order to attempt to have a litter. And when the "Happy Boy" is examined in the ring by the judge, the judge would check to make sure there are two jewels in the "Money Bags" there by the "Joy Stick". And if that judge were to bestow a Winner's "Happy Boy" title, or a Winner's "Sweetheart" title at the dog show, then the resultant bragger could "lavishly bestow" some generous amount to BLEF for the Health Fund? I must say - I like it!! No more rude errors insisting that the Berner-L is generating porn email! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Re: Fw: response to newspaper ad for Berner puppies in North Dakota (2nd try ...
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Fw: response to newspaper ad for Berner puppies in North Dakota (2nd try in plain text)
I apologies to the group for sending e-mail not in plain text - I have attempted to reset the computer to plain text format= Please feel free to ignore the prior messages that some cannot read - or delete LeAnn Zogg North Dakota A suggestion for Bernese Dog lovers to consider. Last week while reading the paper I noticed Bernese Mountain Dog puppies advertised in our classified section. There are not many Berners or Breeders in the Dakota area. Most of us know each other, know the breeders and dogs. It seemed unusual that someone would need to try selling their puppies through the paper due to long waiting lists, etc. It indicated they were AKC, but there was no mention of health histories, or other information. The phone number was not from our area, thus it peeked my curiosity and concern - who and why would puppies be sold by an out of state person through the paper. I did not wish to offend the person advertising the pups, but I was concerned and contacted the area BMD club officers and the National BMDCA for advice and direction. As an owner, I was getting calls from friends in the area wondering about the dogs and breeder listed in the paper. Based upon the advice from Robin Hamme, PR Chair and Rep for BMDCA, we placed an add which encouraged people interested in Bernese Mountain Dogs/puppies to contact the web site for the club. www.BMDCA.org. " Bernese Mountain Dogs/pups. BMDCA breeder referrals. Find facts, tips and contacts at www.BMDCA.org. We can help." The purpose was to get the information out to people to be informed before they buy. There are far too many health issues, puppy mills, and other issues regarding our breed. It is my hope that by placing this ad in major city papers throughout the state, people will go to the site and become informed about the breed and hook up with responsible breeders. I cannot speak to the integrity of the person placing the ad, nor would it be appropriate to do so. But I strongly believe that buyers must be informed and that as a member of BMDCA, it is my small effort to work hand in hand with our area and national officers to educate people. Call it a "grass roots effort" if you will. Robin asked me to share with you the steps we took to respond to a newspaper ad. I would like to invite and encourage all of us to watch our papers, pet stores, etc. where puppies are sold and use what is at your disposal to educate people about our beautiful breed. LeAnn Zogg North Dakota
Fw: response to newspaper ad for Berner puppies in North Dakota (2nd try in plain text)
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response to newspaper ad for Berner puppies in North Dakota
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Re: A New Vocabulary for the Berner-L
the new vocabulary offers the potential for a great deal of fun :-D terry thompson missoula, montana "girl", "sweetheart" or "female" Mr. Willie or The Joy Stick. Family Jewels or The Money Bags. "Getting Lucky" or "Fructification." "Happy Boy." "lavish bestowal."
Re: GROWING PAINS ???
>> He is on the BARF diet and loving every meaty bite. Hi, About this "little big pup". I am not familier with BARF, I am a "kibble-mother", but hope it is not only meat your pup got. Too much protein make pups grow faster. Said without starting i BARF-kibble-discussion. About pups and the growing we in Sweden use to say small bernerpups grow a kilo each week, means about 2 pounds a week. We also have a rule pups can leave their mother and the breeder at 8 weeks not earlier. The most breeders also recommend to give Bernerpups food for adults, of the reason the pup should not grow too fast. All kind of pain in dogs means visit to the veterinarian. Good luck with your little pup and give Alex soft cuddle from us, Margareta and Vincent
A New Vocabulary for the Berner-L
Dear Pat, As you know, for the last two weeks I have been taking care of errors generated by problematic emails on the Berner-L. During this time I have realized that Spam software is intent on doing its job as thoroughly as possible -- making my job very tedious. I believe it is necessary, therefore, to introduce a new vocabulary to the Berner-L so that L'ers with rigid spam filters will not be deprived of our international gathering of knowledge . I will word this carefully so that even I don't generate errors: 1. The word we use for female Berners that rhymes with ditch should be retired. Use "girl", "sweetheart" or "female" 2. The biologically correct name for the male ... um ... this is harder than I thought ... lower appendage with which future progeny are happily effected ... should be referred to as Mr. Willie or The Joy Stick. The attendent two sac o' suds should be referred to as Family Jewels; or, if you are a very fortunate breeder, The Money Bags. 3. Any words that describe the actual act of breeding should be substituted with "Getting Lucky;" or, if you are an optimistic breeder, "Fructification." 4. The word that refers to the male being used in a breeding (it rhymes with "dud") should be substituted with "Happy Boy." Sadly, the one word in the subject line that caused the most rejected deliveries of the Berner-L digest was "donation." I'm sure Joye Neff will be crestfallen to hear about this. Spam software is able to sniff out any word remotely charitable. Thus, I suggest substituting "lavish bestowal." Trust me. I believe this would effectively reduce the errors by 50%. Sincerely, Maria Crifasi Berner-L
RE: GROWING PAINS ???
>My eight and one half week old berner puppy Alex is growing like a weed, >gaining a pound every other day. >In the past two weeks he went from 6 lbs to 13. >Today he started having some pain in his hind end, from the base of the tail >and a few inches above to his back. He cries when he moves and when I touch >that area. >I see no reason for this discomfort. He has not climbed any steps or jumped >off anything. >He is by my side 24/7 and if we go any distance I carry him. >He is on the BARF diet and loving every meaty bite. >Could he be growing to fast and could this be the discomfort he is having? >Any comments or suggestions would be helpful. Tomorrow we will go to the vets >if he does not seem better. >Thanks >Robert Robert, I don't know that the rapid growth is responsible for the pain your puppy is feeling, but you really _must_ slow down his growth, for his future health. My breeder gave me sage advice 6 1/2 years ago, which I have followed w/my last two Berner babies. She told me to not let the pups gain more than 2, or at most 3 pounds per week. If they gain 3 pounds two weeks in a row, then I cut back on their food, and increase the veggies. I religiously weighed my pups once/week until they were over a year old. After about a year, I weighed them once/month until they were full grown (one is 19 months, and still filling out). They will ultimately reach whatever height/weight that there genes are destined for, but the slow growth is best for their skeletal structure. I write down their weights in a notepad, and it's been fun to compare their growth rates to each other. With my first Berner, I wasn't as careful, since I didn't have much guidance, but he gained about 10 lbs./month, which is pretty typical. Rapid growth in a pup under 7 months can have disastrous effects on their joints. My breeder and I also feed a BARF diet. Jennifer Zaayer Dash and Ti
Re: Heartguard and Benadryl
I have used Heartguard for years on both a Berner and a non-Berner because heartworm is a real threat where I live. I had a Newfie mix, same size as a Berner, who had heartworm when I rescued him. The treatment was very hard on him and me, as well. My opinion is that a reaction from the Heartguard could not be as awful as the heartworm treatment. I have had no adverse reaction in either dog from the Heartguard. In fact, it's quite amazing that the dogs recall the sound of the package opening from month to month and come running without my having to say a thing. Must be a scrumptious treat. My Berner has had an allergic reaction presenting as a very red muzzle that the vet can not diagnose as to cause. It seems seasonal but could be anything. This last time, I gave him an anti-histamine at the direction of the vet which helped with the overall itchiness. I also did the oatmeal bath. The vet had a list of over the counter human anti-histamines that are safe with a prescribed dosage. One of them was Bendryl although not the one I used. It took about three weeks for the red muzzle to clear up. Heat seemed to cause it to flare up. So, of course, His Majesty is ensconsed on a comfy bed under the AC vent for most of the day. Sue with Swiss Stars Sir Galahad (how come I'm not King Galahad since you treat me like I rule, and the non-itchy, non-Berner, both under the AC today.) Sacramento
Heartguard and Benadryl
Hi All! Wanted to ask if anyone has an opinion on the Heartguard medication. There are mosquitoes out in full force this summer and our vet would like to put 1 1/2 year old Ginger on Heartguard medication. I had read awhile back that there are side effects, and none of our other dogs have ever been on that medication. Any experiences or opinions? Also, Ginger HAS been getting bitten by flies or ants or something that has made her INCREDIBLY itchy. She hardly slept last night from being so uncomfortable. (She is getting a soothing oatmeal bath tomorrow morning.) The neighbor gives their dogs a Benadryl, just for relief due to some similar itchy skin conditions, and I was wondering if that is OK to do. Thanks again for the Berner L (I'm thankful everyday as I read through the posts and continue to learn so much about this wonderful breed and all the wonderful people that are "owned" by their Berners!!) Have a wonderful weekend! Kaethy and Swiss Stars Ginger N' Spice in Los Angeles
Re: Cabela's
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RE: GROWING PAINS ???
Hi Robert, Your puppy is very small for his age and if I do the math right you purchased him at six and half weeks?? Most breeders sell their puppies between seven and eight weeks and if puppies are under-developed most breeders would grow them on a bit and check for reasons for delay. Most eight week old puppies weigh between 17 and 22lbs. When I got a puppy from a New York state breeder I had to wait until she was eight weeks old. Some states are strict about what age a puppy can be sold. I would most certainly take your puppy to your vet for a full physical examination. You may also seek consultation with an orthopedic specialist. He is still young and his hip joints not fully formed severe dysplasia will cause pain and discomfort when moving. Refrain from pressing on your puppy's rear to make him sit (if this is what you are doing) and use a food lure to achieve this exercise. When he is laying down does he have difficulty rising, young puppies should not be pulling forward and hauling up their rears they usually get up with energy used in the rear. Bone pain and panosteitis usually appear in the rapid growth phase which is five to nine months and is when the long legs bones are lengthening. I would be most concerned to see pain expressed in such a young puppy. Have you discussed this with your breeder and checked to see if the diet you are feeding is correct. When feeding BARF diet to young growing puppies it is extremely important to have the guidance of experienced breeders who have raised several litters to adulthood on this type of diet. Rose T.
RE: Berners in Stores
Hi Radya, I breed Berners and I would never consider loading up my van and taking a pile of puppies to a store carpark to sell. I start the interview process well before the puppies are born and even if at certain times of the year the phone enquiries slow down I do not panic and sell in haste. I make my buyers "work" for their puppies, if they do not show sustained interest or are unwilling to listen to my advice they don't get one. Any little doubt on my part and they don't get one. PPOs are talked to at length on the phone, invited to meet up with me at dog events and if I'm happy to do so they are invited to my home to meet my dogs and have a nice long chat one on one. I cannot do this if I were to operate out of a store carpark. Dr Ian Dunbar advises breeders to show the adults en masse to potential puppy buyers, let them realise how much dog emerges from those cute fluffy puppies and then educate them about the journey between puppyhood and a well adjusted adult. He also states that when humans are looking at puppies they turn into blabbering fools incapable of absorbing your words of wisdom. It is this very concept that puppy stores rely on to make a quick sale, it's called marketing the product or getting the hook! The puppies at this store's carpark sale are the hook, then the owner is influenced into stepping into the store to buy all the necessary clothing and supplies to start their sporting interests. All this store is requiring from attending breeders is that the puppies are registerable and a seven day health guarantee is given. Proof of parents genetic testings, not all breeders do all the necessary tests and how many PPOs are aware of specific problems reletive to specific breeds to even ask. Instead of selling from the truck we move into an ex-pen, not a whole lot of difference just better presentation of the "goods". Welcome to Parvo land where puppies can test their undeveloped immune systems while humans wander from pen to pen to pet and hold the little treasures! No good breeder would take such young puppies to a multi-dog event. Rose T.
Immodium and puppies
Hi, Have to contradict here:-) Immodium should not be given to a five month old puppy with loose stools. There is a possibility that internal parasites might be the cause and to slow the gut responses allows these parasites extra time to multiply, same with coccidia. Take a fresh sample to your vet for analysis and you might choose to worm your puppy to be on the safe side. I have had negative tests on puppies with loose stools and problematic diarrhea and a course of Panacur at 1/2cc per kilo for three days and then repeated three weeks later has done the trick. Parasites such as whipworm can be very difficult to identify on a fecal float and if roundworms are not shedding eggs in the time frame of testing you will get a false negative there as well. Pregnancy will activate encysted roundworms in the bitch's body and these are transfered to the fetus and via the milk, many breeders are cautious about worming and even if they are wormed on a regular basis while at the breeder's they may still be infected. My vet advises regular worming until six months of age and then regular check after, particularly when there are young crawling children in the family. Another cause for loose stools can be overfeeding, at five months some puppies have calmer bowels if they are fed twice a day. Providing the puppy is being fed an appropriate diet this should be sufficient. Also check the fat content of the diet, some young puppies cannot tolerate too much chicken skin and fat or marrow or dairy fats, some minor adjustments may be necessary if you are feeding BARF. Rose T.
Cabelas
I sent them a short e-mail, simply asking for a list of the sporting breeds sold, and a list of the required health clearances/certifications for each breed. That was all I asked. I didn't give them my opinion that this is an irresponsible way to sell pups. I just asked for more info. Well, I got the same reply from Ron that everyone else is getting. Pretty quickly after I sent the e-mail. I suspect that snail-mail letters may be more effective. Hopefully the sporting breed clubs have been notified. Sharon Montville - Firstrax Bernese - Colorado __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Help our Hip Dysplasia research!
We are still trying to get DNA samples in from at least a dozen families of Bernese Mountain Dogs. We are trying to develop a DNA test which will clearly indicate the genetic status of each dog regarding hips. A breeder can use this information to breed their dog to the sire or dam that will complement their dogs' ability to produce non-dysplastic offspring. Only those breeds where we obtain sufficient DNA samples will have a chance at this test. We only have 8 families and several more where people asked for swabs kits and never returned them, even in spite of my "nag" cards. We are looking for families of Berners in which there are two or more siblings (can be from a repeat breeding) who have been diagnosed with hip dysplasia and are available for DNA sample collection. We also need DNA samples from the parents (both whenever possible - but will take one) and any unaffected littermates that we can get. DNA samples are collected by small cheek brushes which are simply returned in self-addressed, stamped envelopes. Come on folks, what we're doing for von Willebrands Disease we can do for hips. Cheryl Hogue Research Coordinator VetGen 1 800 483-8436 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.vetgen.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: collars
In a message dated 07/11/2003 2:49:50 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Was he right? >> My experience over the years is that there is far LESS control with a harness than a collar as the dog can throw its entire weight into the chest strap. That's one of the reasons harnesses are used in drafting rather than just hitching the cart to the collar. I sincerely doubt, unless one of the special "no pull" harnesses are used, there would be greater control. I think you are doing fine using the Halti when you anticipate problem behavior. Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDIA, 9 yrs. old, Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yrs. old, Cavalier) Northern Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED], Corr. Sec. BMDCA
Re: collars
When I showed up with Chelsea at our first puppy class (3.5 mos old), she was wearing her harness. It's a harness she wears in the car so she can be buckled in to the seat belt, but you can also attach it to a leash for walks. The instructor said that when walking/training her, a buckle collar is best, because a harness basically allows the weight that the dog is pulling (you!) to be evenly distributed over the front part of its body frame, allowing the dog to pull harder. And I have to agree. I notice that Chelsea can pull like a horse with her harness on! So walks now are done with her wearing her buckle collar or gentle leader. In my opinion, stick with the buckle collar. Maybe the salesman at the pet store used the word "harness" to mean a gentle leader or halti?? Cheers! Alison & Chelsea (i LIKE wearing my harness mum! why can't i wear it more often??) On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT), Rhona Vantine wrote: > > I've long been looking for a nice, rounded, buckle > collar. The flat one that Louis has at the moment is > fine but ruins his hair. > I've looked for a long time now but never come across > one, here in The Netherlands. The other day I was in > a pet shop and a very helpful and very, very tall and > muscular young man explained that I should be using a > harness and not a collar for a dog of Louis's size. > Although Louis is not generally a puller he can be > aggressive with some male dogs. If I see potential > trouble I put the Halti on him. The man explained > that he had a St Bernard and a Mastiff and that his > wife could control them with a harness! I would have > thought you would be fighting the full weight of the > dog using a harness! I've never used a harness on > Louis. Believe me this young man looked like he could > halt a bus ... not sure what his wife looked like! > I don't recall anyone on the List recommending using > a harness for control. Was he right? > Rhona Vantine > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com
RE: Selling puppies...... (fwd)
Customer Relations: Mon - Fri (6 am to 6pm); Sat (8 am to 3pm), MST Toll Free Ph # - 800-237- (U.S./Canadian residents) hm.. I see an 800 number here where we can be heard as well as read. Molly
Donation acknowledgement
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Re: BERNER-L digest 4493
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RE: GROWING PAINS ???
Dear Robert, It's always so amazing to see the puppies grow so fast. I don't have any answers for you, but I do have a few questions. Have you had Alex since he was 6 weeks old? Or did you get the information from the breeder on how much he weighed two weeks ago? And how much play and exercise time does he get? Do let us know what the vet has to say! Good luck! I'm copying your full email here, it was posted in HTML - a problem with AOL. In order to post in plain text so that everyone can read it, you have to post through the www.aol.com website. It's a pain I know, but AOL removed the plain text option for some unknown reason. Hugs and bellyrubs to Alex, Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GROWING PAINS ??? My eight and one half week old berner puppy Alex is growing like a weed, gaining a pound every other day. In the past two weeks he went from 6 lbs to 13. Today he started having some pain in his hind end, from the base of the tail and a few inches above to his back. He cries when he moves and when I touch that area. I see no reason for this discomfort. He has not climbed any steps or jumped off anything. He is by my side 24/7 and if we go any distance I carry him. He is on the BARF diet and loving every meaty bite. Could he be growing to fast and could this be the discomfort he is having? Any comments or suggestions would be helpful. Tomorrow we will go to the vets if he does not seem better. Thanks Robert
RE: Corneal Dystrophy
Forwarded for Janice Parky, respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone have any experience with corneal dystrophy in their Berner's or other breeds? Halley has just been diagnosed with this. It appears to be inherited. Any info would be appreciated Janice Parky Halley and Wrigley
collars
I've long been looking for a nice, rounded, buckle collar. The flat one that Louis has at the moment is fine but ruins his hair. I've looked for a long time now but never come across one, here in The Netherlands. The other day I was in a pet shop and a very helpful and very, very tall and muscular young man explained that I should be using a harness and not a collar for a dog of Louis's size. Although Louis is not generally a puller he can be aggressive with some male dogs. If I see potential trouble I put the Halti on him. The man explained that he had a St Bernard and a Mastiff and that his wife could control them with a harness! I would have thought you would be fighting the full weight of the dog using a harness! I've never used a harness on Louis. Believe me this young man looked like he could halt a bus ... not sure what his wife looked like! I don't recall anyone on the List recommending using a harness for control. Was he right? Rhona Vantine __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
