Re: CFWindow Timing Issue

[Azadi Saryev]

maybe a better approach would be to add

at the bottom of the page loaded in your cfwindow instance.

this way it is guaranteed to run after the cfwindow content is loaded
- setTimeout() will delay code execution, but does not guarantee that
the code runs after the content is loaded (i.e. due to delay because
of network congestion, etc).

the downside of using ajaxonload() cf function is - it does not accept
any parameters, so you can't pass arguments to the js function it is
set to execute.

Azadi

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:44 AM, James Steubing  wrote:
>
>
> > I am incorporating CFWindow and coldfusion.window functions into my
> > site and have them working very well except for one issue.  I would
> > like to execute some javascript after the cfwindow fully opens but
> > everything I am doing appears to execute after the popup appears but
> > before the coldfusion page loads into the window.
> >
> > I have tried ajaxonload(), javascript onload, $('#docload').
> > ready(function(), etc.
> >
> > They all seem to execute before the actual end of the process.
> >
> > Is there a way around this?  Any help on this would be greatly
> > appreciated.
>
> I solved the problem by using setTimeout(function(){ insert_javascript_here 
> },0); from within the page I was loading in the popup.  Calling an external 
> function was executing at the wrong time, but using setTimeout like this with 
> a timeout of 0 milliseconds works like I needed it to.  Hope this helps 
> someone someday.
>
> 

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RE: Can this be improved

[Eric Roberts]

I would agree...unless it is a really, really complex query that is just
killing performance...I try and avoid SP's...they make life so much harder
for debugging.  I haven't jumped into ORM land yet...it's on the list.


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To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Can this be improved


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:

> I did not use stored procs because I have having issues with making 
> them on MySQL since I am new to the db, so I know that is one 
> improvement that I could make.
>

In addition to casey's comments, I would generally say that using Stored
Procs is usually NOT an improvement. they don't usually give you a
measurable performance gain, nor a security gain. They just end up making
your code less maintainable since you have to maintain things in two places
(the DB and CF code) instead of just one place (CF code). They also make
your code less portable.

ORM, on the other hand, makes your code WAY WAY WAY more portable, and
(once you are past the learning curve) much faster to do development and
easier to maintain.

-Cameron

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Re: list status

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'll look at both the password mechanism as well as unsubscribe you.


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Re: Can this be improved

[Bryan Stevenson]

Thanks Cameronand sorry on the portable/better goof ;-)

I'd say from what you and Russ have said that there is no urgent need
for me to experience the learning curve.  I'll swing back and take a
peek so I am better informed and give it  a fair kick at the can ;-)

Cheers

On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 14:04 -0500, Cameron Childress wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bryan Stevenson <
> br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote:
> 
> > So what is it about ORM that makes this "WAY WAY WAY better"
> >
> 
> I didn't say "better", actually, I said "portable"
> 
> 
> > Why is ORM (or ORM with CF) the magic bullet?  Simple real life example?
> 
> 
> There is no such thing as a magic bullet. This is the reason we all are
> employed. I've used ORM in CF for a number of projects, and have
> used/explored maybe 50% of it's functionality so far. I am by no means an
> expert, however in my own personal experience..
> 
> ORM is good at:
> - Hibernate makes CRUD drop dead simple.
> - Your code will be shorter, more consistant
> - Changes are easier to make in one central place
> - You can even have Hibernate build your tables for you! Including
> relationships and indexes!
> - HQL Will let you "drop down to SQL" when the ORM entities don't seem to
> be doing the job alone.
> 
> ORM is bad at:
> - Learning curve. The basics are easy. Adding complexity adds er...
> complexity.
> - Errors that it throws are sometimes misleading and semi-nonsensical
> (impacts learning curve)
> - Things like Self-Joins and more advances functionality can be difficult
> to figure out.
> 
> Like any tool in your programming toolbox, you have to know when to use it
> and when not to.
> 
> -Cameron
> 


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Re: Can this be improved

[Bryan Stevenson]

Thanks Russ.in my world that is not an issueand I'll stay custom
if that's the only benefit.

I can re-write T-SQL to PL-SQL in my sleep, but the only place I use
PL-SQL is for custom system dev clientsand we are mostly moved to a
product based company where our DBs of choice are T-SQL based (thus
highly portable to other T-SQL based DBs should the need arise).

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Re: hmailserver & Coldfusion

[Al Musella, DPM]

At 12:19 PM 12/3/2012, you wrote:

>Anyone have any experience, comments using hmailserver with Coldfusion?

I use it.. Works nicely.  Here is a short snippet that will create a 
new email address via coldfusion. (the domain must already be set up).

 
 
  
 
























 
 



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Re: list of countries and territories

[Greg Morphis]

That is awesome.. thanks Russ!


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> http://countrylist.net/
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:
>
> >
> > Does anyone have or know of a good list of delimited countries and
> > territories I can use and import into my DB?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Can this be improved

[Cameron Childress]

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bryan Stevenson <
br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote:

> So what is it about ORM that makes this "WAY WAY WAY better"
>

I didn't say "better", actually, I said "portable"


> Why is ORM (or ORM with CF) the magic bullet?  Simple real life example?


There is no such thing as a magic bullet. This is the reason we all are
employed. I've used ORM in CF for a number of projects, and have
used/explored maybe 50% of it's functionality so far. I am by no means an
expert, however in my own personal experience..

ORM is good at:
- Hibernate makes CRUD drop dead simple.
- Your code will be shorter, more consistant
- Changes are easier to make in one central place
- You can even have Hibernate build your tables for you! Including
relationships and indexes!
- HQL Will let you "drop down to SQL" when the ORM entities don't seem to
be doing the job alone.

ORM is bad at:
- Learning curve. The basics are easy. Adding complexity adds er...
complexity.
- Errors that it throws are sometimes misleading and semi-nonsensical
(impacts learning curve)
- Things like Self-Joins and more advances functionality can be difficult
to figure out.

Like any tool in your programming toolbox, you have to know when to use it
and when not to.

-Cameron

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Re: list of countries and territories

[Russ Michaels]

http://countrylist.net/


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Greg Morphis  wrote:

>
> Does anyone have or know of a good list of delimited countries and
> territories I can use and import into my DB?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> 

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Re: Can this be improved

[Russ Michaels]

ORM should allow your app to run on any database on any platform (MySQL,
MSSQL, Oracle) without you having to change any code.
Although it doesn't cover all possible queries you may ever need to write,
you may still find some instances where ORM doesn't do what you need.


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Bryan Stevenson <
br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote:

>
> Hey All,
>
> I'm curious as to what is behind statements like Cameron's (not picking
> on you Cameron.just a good example of what I'm talking about)
>
> "ORM, on the other hand, makes your code WAY WAY WAY more portable, and
> (once you are past the learning curve) much faster to do development and
> easier to maintain."
>
> So what is it about ORM that makes this "WAY WAY WAY better" - defining
> "better" along the way of course ;-)
>
> I'm asking because EVERY coding efficiency anything I've ever tried
> (i.e. Ruby on Rails) turned out to be good to a point and then you're
> painted into a corner needing good old fashioned custom coding to solve
> the problem.
>
> Why is ORM (or ORM with CF) the magic bullet?  Simple real life example?
>
> Thanks in advance folks
> --
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS™
> phone: 250.480.0642
> cell: 250.920.8830
> e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com
> web: www.electricedgesystems.com and www.fisheryfacts.com
>
>
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Re: CFWindow Timing Issue

[James Steubing]

> I am incorporating CFWindow and coldfusion.window functions into my 
> site and have them working very well except for one issue.  I would 
> like to execute some javascript after the cfwindow fully opens but 
> everything I am doing appears to execute after the popup appears but 
> before the coldfusion page loads into the window.  
> 
> I have tried ajaxonload(), javascript onload, $('#docload').
> ready(function(), etc.
> 
> They all seem to execute before the actual end of the process.
> 
> Is there a way around this?  Any help on this would be greatly 
> appreciated. 

I solved the problem by using setTimeout(function(){ insert_javascript_here 
},0); from within the page I was loading in the popup.  Calling an external 
function was executing at the wrong time, but using setTimeout like this with a 
timeout of 0 milliseconds works like I needed it to.  Hope this helps someone 
someday. 

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list of countries and territories

[Greg Morphis]

Does anyone have or know of a good list of delimited countries and
territories I can use and import into my DB?

Thanks


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Re: hmailserver & Coldfusion

[Russ Michaels]

have used it many times.
But what mail server you use is pretty immaterial if  the only requirement
is an SMTP server as they all work the same.
Hmail is fine for a basic smtp server,



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>
> Anyone have any experience, comments using hmailserver with Coldfusion?
>
> Terry
>
> 

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Re: write query result to file

[John M Bliss]

Perfect. Thanks!


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

>
> cfwddx still works, doesn't it? Why not just use it? Sure, XML is a bit
> fat, but if you just want something quick and dirty, there is no reason not
> to use it, especially if you are the only reader.
>
> Outside of that - look at serializeJSON/deserializeJSON.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:26 AM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi! Time-back-way-back, the best/easiest way to write a cfquery result
> to a
> > file was to use cfwddx. What's the current best/easiest way? (So that
> it's
> > easy to read the file and re-instantiate the result.)
> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: write query result to file

[Raymond Camden]

cfwddx still works, doesn't it? Why not just use it? Sure, XML is a bit
fat, but if you just want something quick and dirty, there is no reason not
to use it, especially if you are the only reader.

Outside of that - look at serializeJSON/deserializeJSON.


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:26 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Hi! Time-back-way-back, the best/easiest way to write a cfquery result to a
> file was to use cfwddx. What's the current best/easiest way? (So that it's
> easy to read the file and re-instantiate the result.)
>
> --
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>
>
> 

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write query result to file

[John M Bliss]

Hi! Time-back-way-back, the best/easiest way to write a cfquery result to a
file was to use cfwddx. What's the current best/easiest way? (So that it's
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hmailserver & Coldfusion

[te...@it-werks.com te...@it-werks.com]

Anyone have any experience, comments using hmailserver with Coldfusion?

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CFWindow Timing Issue

[James Steubing]

I am incorporating CFWindow and coldfusion.window functions into my site and 
have them working very well except for one issue.  I would like to execute some 
javascript after the cfwindow fully opens but everything I am doing appears to 
execute after the popup appears but before the coldfusion page loads into the 
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They all seem to execute before the actual end of the process.

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Re: list status

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Logging onto the site is the only way that I know of to officially
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Re: Can this be improved

[Bryan Stevenson]

Hey All,

I'm curious as to what is behind statements like Cameron's (not picking
on you Cameron.just a good example of what I'm talking about)

"ORM, on the other hand, makes your code WAY WAY WAY more portable, and
(once you are past the learning curve) much faster to do development and
easier to maintain."

So what is it about ORM that makes this "WAY WAY WAY better" - defining
"better" along the way of course ;-)

I'm asking because EVERY coding efficiency anything I've ever tried
(i.e. Ruby on Rails) turned out to be good to a point and then you're
painted into a corner needing good old fashioned custom coding to solve
the problem.

Why is ORM (or ORM with CF) the magic bullet?  Simple real life example?

Thanks in advance folks
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Re: CF8 - sending mail via exchange?

[Russ Michaels]

I have had lots of hassle doing this due to restrictions on the exchange
server, exchange won't allow you to relay anonymously by default, you must
send.via a specific user also you may need to get the sysadmin to allow pop
or imap, the default tends to be mapi.

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On Dec 3, 2012 3:30 PM, "Pete Ruckelshaus"  wrote:

>
> Do I need to do anything special or use any of the cfexchange tags in order
> to send email via a MS Exchange server?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
>
>
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Re: CF8 - sending mail via exchange?

[Dave Watts]

> Do I need to do anything special or use any of the cfexchange tags in order
> to send email via a MS Exchange server?

No, as long as your Exchange server will accept SMTP mail from your CF
server, all you need to use is CFMAIL. Very often, Exchange servers
are configured to limit or block SMTP mail that isn't being sent to
the domain(s) managed by the Exchange server, though - you may need
your Exchange administrator to allow it to relay mail from the IP
address of your CF server.

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CF8 - sending mail via exchange?

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

Do I need to do anything special or use any of the cfexchange tags in order
to send email via a MS Exchange server?

Thanks

Pete


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Re: Can this be improved

[Cameron Childress]

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:

> I did not use stored procs because I have having issues with making them
> on MySQL since I am new to the db, so I know that is one improvement that I
> could make.
>

In addition to casey's comments, I would generally say that using Stored
Procs is usually NOT an improvement. they don't usually give you a
measurable performance gain, nor a security gain. They just end up making
your code less maintainable since you have to maintain things in two places
(the DB and CF code) instead of just one place (CF code). They also make
your code less portable.

ORM, on the other hand, makes your code WAY WAY WAY more portable, and
 (once you are past the learning curve) much faster to do development and
easier to maintain.

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