Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
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Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
I sail in Ontario on Lake Simcoe and go to Woodbridge to get them refilled Richard Sent from my iPad Pro \ | / (@ @) —o00--(_)--00o— 416-805-3020 cell ..._/)..._/)..._/)..._/)..._/) I'd rather be sailing This e-mail and any files attached may be privileged and /or confidential and intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and then delete the e-mail and any attachments. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. The views and or opinions expressed in this e-mail are not necessarily the views of Richard Custom Homes Inc. or any of its subsidiaries. The company accepts no liability for its accuracy or completeness and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. You should ensure that you have adequate virus protection as Richard Custom Homes Inc. does not accept liability for any viruses. > On Jun 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List > wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the information. I have documented the details of what > everyone has said. One final question, it might be dumb but, where do I > light the stove and how. > > Thanks, > Ray > LakeHouse > >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:37 AM, wrote: >> Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Alternator Charging both banks? (Francois Rivard) >>2. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (damian.gre...@yahoo.com) >>3. C 33mk1 - Merlin (Joe Jonika) >>4. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Della Barba, Joe) >>5. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Richard Gonesailing) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:10:35 -0400 >> From: Francois Rivard >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List Alternator Charging both banks? >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Thanks guys, >> >> I'll double check the wiring next time. I do have 2 banks consisting of >> 3 batteries: 1 smaller unit (Still "Marine Deep cycle" ) as a starting >> battery and 2 larger ones connected in parallel as house. >> >> I also have a "smart" Xantrex Truecharge2 charger. Since we sometimes >> can't make it to the boat for several weeks at a time, especially in the >> winter (We sail 12 months a year) I pretty much always leave the charger on >> when the boat is at the dock to make sure the batteries stay topped-off. >> >> Outside of replacing the house batteries 2 years ago and the starting >> battery this year (They're cheapo Walmart batteries and were 5-7 years old) >> Everything was working perfect until a last week, now the the charger is >> throwing an error / might be fried so I'm looking at this charging thing in >> greater details. >> >> I'll let you guys know what I find out about the charger / what I'll do >> about it. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> -Francois Rivard >> 1990 34+ Take Five >> Lake Lanier, GA >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180612/ba99cbb5/attachment-0001.html> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:04:43 + (UTC) >> From: "damian.gre...@yahoo.com" >> To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List >> Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions >> Message-ID: <967828614.3013052.1528877083...@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Ray, >> There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: >> Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the >> regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage >> or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve >> i
Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
Thanks everyone for the information. I have documented the details of what everyone has said. One final question, it might be dumb but, where do I light the stove and how. Thanks, Ray LakeHouse On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:37 AM, wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Alternator Charging both banks? (Francois Rivard) >2. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (damian.gre...@yahoo.com) >3. C 33mk1 - Merlin (Joe Jonika) >4. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Della Barba, Joe) >5. Re: CNG Gas Stove Instructions (Richard Gonesailing) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:10:35 -0400 > From: Francois Rivard > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Alternator Charging both banks? > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks guys, > > I'll double check the wiring next time. I do have 2 banks consisting of > 3 batteries: 1 smaller unit (Still "Marine Deep cycle" ) as a starting > battery and 2 larger ones connected in parallel as house. > > I also have a "smart" Xantrex Truecharge2 charger. Since we sometimes > can't make it to the boat for several weeks at a time, especially in the > winter (We sail 12 months a year) I pretty much always leave the charger on > when the boat is at the dock to make sure the batteries stay topped-off. > > Outside of replacing the house batteries 2 years ago and the starting > battery this year (They're cheapo Walmart batteries and were 5-7 years old) > Everything was working perfect until a last week, now the the charger is > throwing an error / might be fried so I'm looking at this charging thing in > greater details. > > I'll let you guys know what I find out about the charger / what I'll do > about it. > > Thanks again. > > -Francois Rivard > 1990 34+ Take Five > Lake Lanier, GA > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list. > com/attachments/20180612/ba99cbb5/attachment-0001.html> > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:04:43 + (UTC) > From: "damian.gre...@yahoo.com" > To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List > Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions > Message-ID: <967828614.3013052.1528877083...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ray, > There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: > Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the > regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage > or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve > inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older > CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the > line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first > try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the > air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the > cylinder when not in use. > CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key > difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid > - so a LOT LESS fuel.?With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and > those tanks are heavy!? They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or > fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure > gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. > Regards, > Damian > === > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hello > I have a 1985 C 33 that has a CNG gas stove? I had the tank refilled but > since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I > would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to > use it?? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. > > Hopeful > Ray > LakeHouse > Milwaukee WI. > _
Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
Richard, in what area do you sail? and how do get your tanks refilled? Thanks Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Richard Gonesailing via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Richard Gonesailing Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2018 8:37 am Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions Just to say we have CNG on board our 29 for the last 20 years and find that with 2 tanks and the boat is used for 4 months every weekend and that’s using the oven and the BBQ we usually go through a tank and a half. The tanks are the size of dive tanks and cost 40 bucks to fill both never mind the safety of the gas rising versus settling make sure you install a xintex control unit with a solenoid shut off valve. Also the regulator for the tanks will have a vent on it make sure you connect a hose on it to vent fitting on the side of the hull Just my 2 cents \ | / (@ @) --o00--(_)--00o-- 416-805-3020 cell ..._/)..._/)..._/)..._/) I'd rather be sailing Sent from Richard's iPhone On Jun 13, 2018, at 4:04 AM, damian.greene--- via CnC-List wrote: I ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
Just to say we have CNG on board our 29 for the last 20 years and find that with 2 tanks and the boat is used for 4 months every weekend and that’s using the oven and the BBQ we usually go through a tank and a half. The tanks are the size of dive tanks and cost 40 bucks to fill both never mind the safety of the gas rising versus settling make sure you install a xintex control unit with a solenoid shut off valve. Also the regulator for the tanks will have a vent on it make sure you connect a hose on it to vent fitting on the side of the hull Just my 2 cents >\ | / > (@ @) > --o00--(_)--00o-- > 416-805-3020 cell > ..._/)..._/)..._/)..._/) > I'd rather be sailing > Sent from Richard's iPhone > On Jun 13, 2018, at 4:04 AM, damian.greene--- via CnC-List > wrote: > > Ray, > > There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: > > Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the > regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage or > kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve inside > the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older CNG > setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the line. > Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first try to > light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the air from > the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the cylinder when > not in use. > > CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference > between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT > LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and those tanks are > heavy! They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or fill. Expect to > use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure gauge on your > regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. > > Regards, > > Damian > > === > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Hello > I have a 1985 C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but > since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I > would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to > use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. > > Hopeful > Ray > LakeHouse > Milwaukee WI. > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
I am pretty sure the regulator uses a backwards thread, so watch out for that. Your tank should have a pressure gauge and it is linear. Propane holds about 250 PSI from 100% full to about 1% full and then drops rapidly to 0. CNG starts around 2000 PSI and when it gets to 1000 it is half used and 500 is 3/4s used and so on. I bought an adapter from FleaBay and fill my CNG tank at a gas station for CNG cars. I think it costs about $2 for a fill ☺ Please do be careful. CNG is a *little bit* safer than propane because it is lighter than air, so a leak will float up to your nose level instead of filling from the bilge on up. It is still a flammable gas, so leaks are still dangerous, as the crew of Deepwater Horizon found out the hard way. I turn my tank off when not in use. I use my propane rail mount grill a lot to save CNG and save heat in the cabin, so I usually fill my CNG tank once a year. That is mainly coffee and eggs in the morning, hot water for dishes, and the occasional loaf of bread or roast in the oven. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of damian.greene--- via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 4:05 AM To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List Cc: damian.gre...@yahoo.com Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions Ray, There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the cylinder when not in use. CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and those tanks are heavy! They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. Regards, Damian === On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Hello I have a 1985 C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. Hopeful Ray LakeHouse Milwaukee WI. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
Ray, There is not much to this. Others may elaborate, but here's my take: Your primary concern should be to check for leaks - most likely around the regulator. Check along the length of the line first for any obvious damage or kinks. Check the flex lines. Maybe you have a separate shutoff valve inside the boat, or a solenoid-actuated shutoff - likely not with an older CNG setup. With the stove off, open the tank-top valve to pressurise the line. Use soapy water on the fittings and look for bubbles. When you first try to light the stove, it'll take a while as you have to first bleed the air from the line. Never leave the stove unattended, and shut off at the cylinder when not in use. CNG is safer than propane, but with some major downsides. The key difference between CNG and LPG is that you have compressed gas, not liquid - so a LOT LESS fuel. With CNG you have a bottle like a scuba tank, and those tanks are heavy! They are also a pain to find a place to swap out or fill. Expect to use your tank up pretty quickly. You may have a pressure gauge on your regulator - you'll see it drop pretty soon with use. Regards, Damian === On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 11:47:42 PM GMT+1, Ray Macklin via CnC-List wrote: Hello I have a 1985 C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. Hopeful Ray LakeHouse Milwaukee WI. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove
7/16" line to a larger shackle, it may apply too much sideways pull on >>>> the hole in the car.Has anyone else dealt with this on a C 37/40+ >>>> with a similar boom & wire rope setup? >>>> >>>>By the way, I really like the Novabraid Argus or NE Ropes VPC >>>> due to the "nubby" cover that grabs nicely in my clutches. The current >>>> clutch slips slightly on my very old and tired outhaul, but I'm not sure a >>>> Argus or VPC to wire braid is either possible or even desirable. >>>> >>>>Thanks for the advice! >>>> >>>>Bruce Whitmore >>>>1994 C 37/40+ >>>>Madeira Beach, FL >>>>(847) 404-5092 (mobile) >>>>bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net >>>>___ >>>> >>>>Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your >>>> contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to >>>> support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- >>>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> >>>> >>>>>>___ >>> >>>Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. >>> Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list >>> - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >>>>___ >> >>Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180612/3eab59a5/attachment-0001.html> > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 21:49:19 -0400 > From: Joe Della Barba > To: Ray Macklin via CnC-List > Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions > Message-ID: <58186e0b-4d7b-5a5b-cbba-0d7627f77...@dellabarba.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Is it all hooked up or are you looking for instructions for that? > > Joe > > Coquina > > > >> On 6/12/2018 6:46 PM, Ray Macklin via CnC-List wrote: >> Hello >> I have a 1985 C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but >> since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I >> would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to >> use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. >> >> Hopeful >> Ray >> LakeHouse >> Milwaukee WI. >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> > > > > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 02:19:26 + > From: Marek Dziedzic > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Subject: Re: Stus-List Alternator Charging both banks? > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am with Dennis on that. > > If you spend a lot of time at anchor, you may need a large house bank and a > dedicated (smaller) starter battery. Then an Echo Charger or ACR between the > House and Start and all charging going to House. > > But what Dennis describes is an easy and straight forward system. > > I do use it, though I don?t spend much time at anchor. > > Marek > > From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Dennis C. via > CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 19:08 > To: CnClist > Cc: Dennis C. > Subject: Re: Stus-List Alternator Charging both banks? > > I do not like using the "Both" option for selector switches. If one battery > dies, then it will drag the other battery down and you'll be stuck. > > For many years, I had two identical batteries on Touche'. My simple system > was to use Battery 1 on odd numbered days and Battery 2 on even numbered > days, never "Both". That ensured I always had one hot battery. > > You can get complicated with ACR's, etc. or a
Re: Stus-List CNG Gas Stove Instructions
Is it all hooked up or are you looking for instructions for that? Joe Coquina On 6/12/2018 6:46 PM, Ray Macklin via CnC-List wrote: Hello I have a 1985 C 33 that has a CNG gas stove I had the tank refilled but since I bought the boat I was to afraid to try it without instructions. I would hate to Go kaboom. Does anyone have instructions or a video of how to use it? Then I could eat breakfast on the boat. Hopeful Ray LakeHouse Milwaukee WI. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
Around here (SoCal) CNG is quite available. If the stove works, you are OK. CNG is lighter than air so none of the headaches as with LPG. It also burns cleaner. Your tank(s) may have to be tested or replaced if original. I have no problems with mine, original stove from 83. I had to re-certify the tank some years ago. Leslie. Phoenix, CC32 On Thu, 9/11/14, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, September 11, 2014, 12:59 PM Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove? If so, could you tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out; but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help; Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
There are some boat yards which trade tanks, you give the old, they give the new - for a fee. Ours does just that. Gary - Original Message - From: Rick Brass via CnC-List To: Richard N. Bush ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove Converting your stove from CNG to propane is simply a matter of changing the orfices in the burners. My new Frigidaire gas stove (in the home) actually came with a set of each. The CNG jets were factory installed and the LPG in a package attached to the installation instructions. The delivery people installed the LPG jets when they installed the stove. Talk to an appliance vendor. I don't think I've ever heard of a CNG stove in an RV, so the lack of information is not surprising. Your tank and regulator should have manufacturer labels on them. See if the manufacturer can identify the local installer for you. The CNG system is another matter. CNG is methane gas and lighter than air so no need for a vented locker, sensors, etc. The tank is at much higher pressures in order to store a useful amount of gas (systems on forklift trucks can be up to 3000 psi) and you still store a lot less fuel than in a similar size LPG tank. There is probably an expensive two stage regulator to bring the gas pressure down to 2-3psi. And it is hard to find anyone to fill your tank. You might ask your municipal gas company or the local bus company if they can either fill the tank or identify someone who can. The benefits to CNG are that it is safer than LPG, it burns hotter so cooks faster, and it is ridiculously inexpensive (which is why most new buses run on it). Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 15:59, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove? If so, could you tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out; but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help; Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
I have cng. Safer but harder to source. also less heat Mike Persistence -Original Message- From: CnC-List on behalf of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Fri 12/09/2014 4:56 PM To: Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove There are some boat yards which trade tanks, you give the old, they give the new - for a fee. Ours does just that. Gary - Original Message - From: Rick Brass via CnC-List To: Richard N. Bush ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove Converting your stove from CNG to propane is simply a matter of changing the orfices in the burners. My new Frigidaire gas stove (in the home) actually came with a set of each. The CNG jets were factory installed and the LPG in a package attached to the installation instructions. The delivery people installed the LPG jets when they installed the stove. Talk to an appliance vendor. I don't think I've ever heard of a CNG stove in an RV, so the lack of information is not surprising. Your tank and regulator should have manufacturer labels on them. See if the manufacturer can identify the local installer for you. The CNG system is another matter. CNG is methane gas and lighter than air so no need for a vented locker, sensors, etc. The tank is at much higher pressures in order to store a useful amount of gas (systems on forklift trucks can be up to 3000 psi) and you still store a lot less fuel than in a similar size LPG tank. There is probably an expensive two stage regulator to bring the gas pressure down to 2-3psi. And it is hard to find anyone to fill your tank. You might ask your municipal gas company or the local bus company if they can either fill the tank or identify someone who can. The benefits to CNG are that it is safer than LPG, it burns hotter so cooks faster, and it is ridiculously inexpensive (which is why most new buses run on it). Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 15:59, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove? If so, could you tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out; but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help; Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
FWIW, Jacksonville, FL looks to be getting into consumer CNG availability. http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2014-07-30/story/jacksonville-cng-station-entire-public-its-way-prompting-forecasts Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have cng. Safer but harder to source. also less heat Mike Persistence -Original Message- From: CnC-List on behalf of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Fri 12/09/2014 4:56 PM To: Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove There are some boat yards which trade tanks, you give the old, they give the new - for a fee. Ours does just that. Gary - Original Message - From: Rick Brass via CnC-List To: Richard N. Bush ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove Converting your stove from CNG to propane is simply a matter of changing the orfices in the burners. My new Frigidaire gas stove (in the home) actually came with a set of each. The CNG jets were factory installed and the LPG in a package attached to the installation instructions. The delivery people installed the LPG jets when they installed the stove. Talk to an appliance vendor. I don't think I've ever heard of a CNG stove in an RV, so the lack of information is not surprising. Your tank and regulator should have manufacturer labels on them. See if the manufacturer can identify the local installer for you. The CNG system is another matter. CNG is methane gas and lighter than air so no need for a vented locker, sensors, etc. The tank is at much higher pressures in order to store a useful amount of gas (systems on forklift trucks can be up to 3000 psi) and you still store a lot less fuel than in a similar size LPG tank. There is probably an expensive two stage regulator to bring the gas pressure down to 2-3psi. And it is hard to find anyone to fill your tank. You might ask your municipal gas company or the local bus company if they can either fill the tank or identify someone who can. The benefits to CNG are that it is safer than LPG, it burns hotter so cooks faster, and it is ridiculously inexpensive (which is why most new buses run on it). Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 15:59, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove? If so, could you tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out; but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help; Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove? If so, could you tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out; but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help; Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
I have a CNG stove. It works pretty much the same as a propane stove. CNG is great as long as you can find it. A google search will be you friend here. Try http://corpbrothers.com/ma0502/marine/cng-dealers.php http://www.wisegasinc.com/wg-marine.htm Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:59 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove? If so, could you tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out; but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help; Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
Converting your stove from CNG to propane is simply a matter of changing the orfices in the burners. My new Frigidaire gas stove (in the home) actually came with a set of each. The CNG jets were factory installed and the LPG in a package attached to the installation instructions. The delivery people installed the LPG jets when they installed the stove. Talk to an appliance vendor. I don't think I've ever heard of a CNG stove in an RV, so the lack of information is not surprising. Your tank and regulator should have manufacturer labels on them. See if the manufacturer can identify the local installer for you. The CNG system is another matter. CNG is methane gas and lighter than air so no need for a vented locker, sensors, etc. The tank is at much higher pressures in order to store a useful amount of gas (systems on forklift trucks can be up to 3000 psi) and you still store a lot less fuel than in a similar size LPG tank. There is probably an expensive two stage regulator to bring the gas pressure down to 2-3psi. And it is hard to find anyone to fill your tank. You might ask your municipal gas company or the local bus company if they can either fill the tank or identify someone who can. The benefits to CNG are that it is safer than LPG, it burns hotter so cooks faster, and it is ridiculously inexpensive (which is why most new buses run on it). Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2014, at 15:59, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove? If so, could you tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out; but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help; Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
