cpu reclocking to 500Mhz, overclocking to 533Mhz, performance tests and bootloader images
Hi, Thanks for your research into reclocking. I've tried the 533-CLK2 version on one of my freerunners and it seems to work well. I am trying to put your changes into my qi build. You have one patch posted for the 500-83 uboot which wasn't too difficult to adapt to qi. Do you have the PLL divider values (not sure if that is the correct term) for the other speeds? Ben Here is is the diff for the 500mhz version with CLK 2 (be careful, might fry your fr, etc) diff --git a/src/cpu/s3c2442/gta02.c b/src/cpu/s3c2442/gta02.c index e9bc0a3..aadb495 100644 --- a/src/cpu/s3c2442/gta02.c +++ b/src/cpu/s3c2442/gta02.c @@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ #define GTA02_DEBUG_UART 2 #define PCF50633_I2C_ADS 0x73 -#define BOOST_TO_400MHZ 1 +#define BOOST_TO_533MHZ 1 static int battery_condition_reasonable = 0; @@ -85,12 +85,12 @@ const struct pcf50633_init pcf50633_init[] = { { PCF50633_REG_AUTOENA, 0x01 }, /* always on */ - { PCF50633_REG_DOWN1OUT,0x1b }, /* 1.3V (0x1b * .025V + 0.625V) */ + { PCF50633_REG_DOWN1OUT,43 }, /* 1.3V (0x1b * .025V + 0.625V) */ { PCF50633_REG_DOWN1ENA,0x02 }, /* enabled if GPIO1 = HIGH */ { PCF50633_REG_HCLDOOUT,21 }, /* 3.0V (21 * 0.1V + 0.9V) */ { PCF50633_REG_HCLDOENA,0x01 }, /* ON by default*/ - { PCF50633_REG_DOWN1OUT,0x1b }, /* 1.3V (0x1b * .025V + 0.625V) */ + { PCF50633_REG_DOWN1OUT,43 }, /* 1.3V (0x1b * .025V + 0.625V) */ { PCF50633_REG_DOWN1ENA,0x02 }, /* enabled if GPIO1 = HIGH */ { PCF50633_REG_INT1M, 0x00 }, @@ -299,10 +299,12 @@ void port_init_gta02(void) PCF50633_I2C_ADS, PCF50633_REG_BVMCTL) 1); if (battery_condition_reasonable) { - /* change CPU clocking to 400MHz 1:4:8 */ + /* change CPU clocking to 533MHz 1:6:12 */ - /* clock divide 1:4:8 - do it first */ - *CLKDIVN = 5; + /* clock divide 1:6:12 - do it first */ + *CLKDIVN = 7; +unsigned int* CAMDIVN = (unsigned int*)0x4C18; + *CAMDIVN |= (18); /* configure UPLL */ *UPLLCON = ((88 12) + (4 4) + 2); /* Magic delay: Page 7-19, seven nops between UPLL and MPLL */ @@ -316,7 +318,7 @@ void port_init_gta02(void) nop\n ); /* configure MPLL */ - *MPLLCON = ((42 12) + (1 4) + 0); + *MPLLCON = ((117 12) + (1 4) + 1); /* get debug UART working at 115kbps */ serial_init_115200_s3c24xx(GTA02_DEBUG_UART, 50 /* 50MHz */); @@ -666,7 +668,9 @@ const struct board_api board_api_gta02 = { .get_ui_keys = get_ui_keys_gta02, .get_ui_debug = get_ui_debug_gta02, .set_ui_indication = set_ui_indication_gta02, console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init diff --git a/src/cpu/s3c2442/lowlevel_init.S b/src/cpu/s3c2442/lowlevel_init.S index 2a1654c..9ba45a5 100644 --- a/src/cpu/s3c2442/lowlevel_init.S +++ b/src/cpu/s3c2442/lowlevel_init.S @@ -105,22 +105,22 @@ #define B5_PMC 0x0 /* normal */ #define B6_MT 0x3 /* SDRAM */ -#define B6_Trcd0x1 /* 3clk */ +#define B6_Trcd0x0 /* 23clk */ #define B6_SCAN0x1 /* 9bit */ #define B7_SCAN0x1 /* 9bit */ #define B7_MT 0x3 /* SDRAM */ -#define B7_Trcd0x1 /* 3clk */ +#define B7_Trcd0x0 /* 2clk */ /* REFRESH parameter */ #define REFEN 0x1 /* Refresh enable */ #define TREFMD 0x0 /* CBR(CAS before RAS)/Auto refresh */ -#define Trp0x1 /* 3clk */ -#define Trc0x3 /* 7clk */ -#define Tchr 0x2 /* 3clk */ -//#define REFCNT 1113/* period=15.6us, HCLK=60Mhz, (2048+1-15.6*60) */ +#define Trp0x0 /* 2clk */ +#define Trc0x1 /* 5clk */ +#define Tchr 0x0 /* 3clk */ +//#define REFCNT 997 /* period=17.5us, HCLK=60Mhz, (2048+1-15.6*60) */ #define REFCNT 997 /* period=17.5us, HCLK=60Mhz, (2048+1-15.6*60) */ /**/ @@ -129,6 +129,7 @@ lowlevel_init: ldr r0, =SMRDATA ldr r1, =BWSCON /* Bus Width Status Controller */ + mov r2, #0 add r2, r0, #13*4 0: ldr r3, [r0], #4 @@ -158,5 +159,5 @@ SMRDATA: .word
Re: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
I would pre-order in the $300 us range. 500 euro is a little steep for a board with no case, speakers, touch screen, etc. It seems like the biggest problems on the GTA-02 were all with closed modules (wifi, glamo, calypso). It sounds like a UMTS module would have to be closed, but if it were loosely coupled to the device (4 usb traces and an antenna) I think we could work with it. Since my FR is getting better all the time (2.6.32 speedups have been great, thanks) I can wait quite a while for a replacement. I can't imaging using a closed phone now. I may be the only person who likes the screen bezel on the freerunner. I have taken my phone on canoeing and backpacking trips just wrapped in a dry-bag and only cracked one screen (which is how I ended up with a second phone). As for expansion ports, an internal usb hub and some solder pads would probably meet my needs. I would think the new device would need a second usb controller anyways (one in host mode for UMTS and internal expansion, one in gadget/host mode with an external connector). Ben On 08/15/2010 06:06 AM, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi Nikolaus, I would prefer pre orders to finance the next FR. and with a discount for the pre-order i think it is possible to raise the money for the development. lets say 400 Euro with pre-order and 500 euro without pre ordering? I might be one of the people who will preorder. ( or just buy a 50 euro nokia... :-) ) Kind regards, Ed On 08/13/2010 07:18 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 13.08.2010 um 12:35 schrieb Neil Brown: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:22:02 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schallerh...@computer.org wrote: Am 12.08.2010 um 14:12 schrieb RANJAN: Hi, When is the next and more powerful openmoko (capable of seamless 3D video and faster processor) is going to be released??? Assume, you could get a motherboard upgrade board that fits into the Freerunner (or Neo1973) case. Based on the TI OMAP3 SoC (OMAP3530 or DM3730) and UMTS. Let me ask two questions to everybody: * How long could you be willing to wait for it to really become available? * How much would you think you could afford to pay for such a board? Is there a serious possibility of this? I wasn't open enough, intentionally :) Yes, there is a serious possibility. The Openmoko Beagle Hybrid Board is a first step for those who want to be early participants of this new era. In addition, we (a small project team in Munich, Germany) have mostly finished our homework (i.e. doing prototypes and experiments like the OM Beagle Hybrid, doing PCB layout) to be sure that it *can* be done. Really building such boards will still cost a significant amount of money (for paying components, professional PCB manufacturing and SMD soldering) and time (therefore: my question how long you would wait). I'm willing to wait a couple of years at least. And the 500 Euro number that It will definitively not take several years. people are throwing around seems OK. To finance the next phase, we are thinking about asking for donations or to hold an auction for the first 5 or 10 prototype units. What would you think of such an approach? Would this be re-using the case, display and touch screen and replacing everything else? Yes, that is the idea. More information (e.g. complete feature list) and openness (as suggested by arne anka) is to come soon. Please watch out for announcements in the next couple of weeks... Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
xrandr -o, left and xrandr -o right always rotate to the same direction
Hello all, Now that the touch screen input is being rotated along with the screen in the latest SHR-U, I have been playing with omnewrotate. Even with the latest version, a few things need to be changed. Using the other accelerometer (/dev/input/event4) seems to work a lot better than the default. It still isnt possible to rotate the screen to the right, or to invert it. The image will be displayed upside down. I don't know where to start looking for the cause of this. Any ideas? Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
orrery crashing X
Hello All, I've missed having orrery this summer. Today I took a look at why it was causing X to crash. The crash happens when the program calls gdk_draw_point for every star it displays. I changed my copy to draw all of the stars into a GdkPixbuf, then I copy the GdkPixbuf onto the drawable area. Maybe someone knows why lots of gdk_draw_points would crash X. I think using the GdkPixbuf is faster anyways, so I'll try to add this to the bug posted on the orrery project page. Ben --- orrery.c2009-11-30 00:59:44.0 -0500 +++ orrery/orrery.c2010-09-02 20:16:24.0 -0400 @@ -1188,6 +1188,7 @@ readStarCatalog(fD); showingFaintStars = FALSE; } + nDarkGreyPoints = nGreyPoints = nWhitePoints = 0; darkGreyLimit = DARK_GREY_LIMIT/magScale; greyLimit = GREY_LIMIT/magScale; @@ -1238,12 +1239,47 @@ } currentEntry = currentEntry-forwardPointer; } - if (nDarkGreyPoints 0) -gdk_draw_points(pixmap, darkGreyGC, darkGreyPoints, nDarkGreyPoints); - if (nGreyPoints 0) -gdk_draw_points(pixmap, greyGC, greyPoints, nGreyPoints); - if (nWhitePoints 0) -gdk_draw_points(pixmap, whiteGC, whitePoints, nWhitePoints); + GdkPixbuf* starDrawingBuf = gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable( NULL, + pixmap, + gdk_colormap_get_system() + , 0, 0, 0, 0, displayWidth, displayHeight); + g_assert (gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample (starDrawingBuf) == 8); + guchar* p; + int rowstride = gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride (starDrawingBuf); + guchar* pixels = gdk_pixbuf_get_pixels (starDrawingBuf); + int n_channels = gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels (starDrawingBuf); + GdkGCValues starGCval; + GdkColor starColor; + int pointNum; + gdk_gc_get_values(darkGreyGC, starGCval); + gdk_colormap_query_color( gdk_gc_get_colormap(darkGreyGC), starGCval.foreground.pixel, starColor ); + for( pointNum = 0; pointNum nDarkGreyPoints; pointNum++) + { +p = pixels + darkGreyPoints[pointNum].y * rowstride + darkGreyPoints[pointNum].x * n_channels; + p[0] = starColor.red 0xff; + p[1] = starColor.green 0xff; + p[2] = starColor.blue 0xff; + } + gdk_gc_get_values(greyGC, starGCval); + gdk_colormap_query_color( gdk_gc_get_colormap(greyGC), starGCval.foreground.pixel, starColor ); + for( pointNum = 0; pointNum nGreyPoints; pointNum++) + { +p = pixels + greyPoints[pointNum].y * rowstride + greyPoints[pointNum].x * n_channels; + p[0] = starColor.red 0xff; + p[1] = starColor.green 0xff; + p[2] = starColor.blue 0xff; + } + gdk_gc_get_values(whiteGC, starGCval); + gdk_colormap_query_color( gdk_gc_get_colormap(whiteGC), starGCval.foreground.pixel, starColor ); + for( pointNum = 0; pointNum nWhitePoints; pointNum++) + { +p = pixels + whitePoints[pointNum].y * rowstride + whitePoints[pointNum].x * n_channels; + p[0] = starColor.red 0xff; + p[1] = starColor.green 0xff; + p[2] = starColor.blue 0xff; + } + gdk_draw_pixbuf ( pixmap , NULL , starDrawingBuf, +0, 0, 0, 0, displayWidth, displayHeight, GDK_RGB_DITHER_NORMAL, 0, 0 ) ; } void makeTimeString(char *string) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
backup battery and case screws questions
Hi, Both of my Freerunners lose the time when the battery is removed for even a couple seconds. I am assuming this is due to worn out backup batteries. I have ordered replacements (they were marked HB414 and they were 2.40 each from digikey). I also got a better soldering iron for doing the install. Has anyone done this replacement before? any gotchas? Also,as anyone found a source for replacement torx case screws? Thanks, Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gpredict satellite tracking
Hello, I got this program working on my FR a while ago so I could tell if the space station would be passing overhead when I am outside on a clear night. I have 2 copies of the program, one that shows the menubar for setting up my location and which satellites I want to see, then one without the menu to maximize available screen area. I'm sure there are many nicer ways to do this, but this is good enough for me. http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/gpredict/ I've tried this on a few versions of SHR,you will need both packages. Run gpredict.menu to access preferences, update telemetry, etc. Run gpredict once you have it configured. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gpredict satellite tracking
On 10/24/2010 09:46 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: I've tried this on a few versions of SHR,you will need both packages. Can you also provide the source code? I've put up the source folders I built from. I have no idea what state they are in, I did this a couple months ago. I'm pretty sure the gpredict folder is set up to build with the menu disabled. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: backup battery and case screws questions
Thanks, I use an allen (hex) wrench to remove them, I am seeking replacements because I lost one. Ben On 10/24/2010 10:32 AM, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Alfa21freerun...@my.is.it wrote: Also,as anyone found a source for replacement torx case screws? I think it's easy to find in any good hardware shop (not computer-hardware eh! the one that sells you screwdrivers, electric drills Co.) ive opened my case several times now, and i dont own any torx bits. you can use a small flathead screwdriver to take them out. the screws have very little torque applied to them so no worry about tearing out the head. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ****SPAM(6.7)**** Re: backup battery and case screws questions
Thanks, I may continue to run with just one screw. I searched for a while for a screw to match the specs given earlier, but haven't found any. My FR with 2 screws gets much better reception the the FR with 1 screw (the 1 screw is placed to make the antenna contact, so the missing screw may be irrelevant). Ben On 10/24/2010 02:37 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: I use an allen (hex) wrench to remove them, I am seeking replacements because I lost one. FYI i'm using my gta02 as my only daily cell phone for more than a year without any screws whatsoever. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: backup battery and case screws questions
It looks like I will be following your advice. The hazmat shipping for the lithium batteries was going to be 175% of the price. I just ordered some supercaps instead. Ben On 10/24/2010 12:51 PM, Martix wrote: I suggest using double-layer super capacitor* intead of Lithium backup battery. These capacitors stores energy for a long time, like a battery and they have much longer lifetime. 0,2 F capacity should be enough for RTC backup on several hours, maybe days. * http://cz.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=1002210+5117013+5087727+5400445No=0getResults=trueappliedparametrics=truelocale=cs_CZcatalogId=prevNValues=1002210+5117013filtersHidden=falseappliedHidden=falseoriginalQueryURL=%2Fjsp%2Fsearch%2Fbrowse.jsp%3FN%3D1002210%26No%3D0%26getResults%3Dtrue%26appliedparametrics%3Dtrue%26locale%3Dcs_CZ%26catalogId%3D%26prevNValues%3D1002210 Best regards, Martix 2010/10/24 Alfa21freerun...@my.is.it: 2010-10...@20:44 Benjamin Deering Has anyone done this replacement before? any gotchas? no, but I think it's not too difficult if you have a little experience with DIY. I've this (known) problem too but I'm afraid if I replace the battery it'll die as the old one... not sure... but I think I can live with that and so I never remove the main battery. Also,as anyone found a source for replacement torx case screws? I think it's easy to find in any good hardware shop (not computer-hardware eh! the one that sells you screwdrivers, electric drills Co.) -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Backup batteries installed
Hello, I finished installing capacitors as replacements for the dead backup batteries in my Freerunners today at lunch. They seem to be working, though I've only tried removing the main battery for under a minute so far. Someone on the GTA-02-core list said a 220uf capacitor would power the RTC for 2 minutes. If that is correct, the .07f caps I used should work for about 10 hours. The parts I got from digikey weren't an exact fit, but I was able to make them work. Be sure to wear safety glasses if you try this, I had one of the old batteries explode when I was removing it. Pictures: http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/index.php?level=albumid=20 Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Backup batteries installed
I have had the capacitors installed for a few days now and they are still working well. I left the FR with a dead battery overnight and when I plugged it in in the following day, it had the correct time. The digikey part number is: 728-1037-1-ND and the manufacturer's number (seiko) is: XH414H-II06E. I would recommend looking around on the site to see if you can find one with the correct bracket. Ben On 10/30/2010 03:03 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 29.10.2010 um 19:05 schrieb Benjamin Deering: Hello, I finished installing capacitors as replacements for the dead backup batteries in my Freerunners today at lunch. They seem to be working, though I've only tried removing the main battery for under a minute so far. Someone on the GTA-02-core list said a 220uf capacitor would power the RTC for 2 minutes. If that is correct, the .07f caps I used should work for about 10 hours. Please report some test results. The parts I got from digikey weren't an exact fit, but I was able to make them work. Looks interesting. Do you have the exact order num...@digikey? Be sure to wear safety glasses if you try this, I had one of the old batteries explode when I was removing it. Oops! So it was not really dead an had enough energy inside. Maybe, just the voltage was too low to run the RTC? Pictures: http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/index.php?level=albumid=20 Good work! Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: orrery crashing X
Thanks for applying that, I thought the orrery maintainer would have applied it by now upstream too. When I sent him the patch, he was planning to get a build out that weekend. All of the current orrery development is happening on maemo for n900. I never heard whether is faster to draw each point direct to display, or to draw to a buffer and display the buffer. If my change is slower, and you have fixed the stack corruption when lots of events are sent to the glamo, then you may not want my patch. Ben On 11/15/2010 04:15 PM, Martin Jansa wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 08:25:34PM -0400, Benjamin Deering wrote: Hello All, I've missed having orrery this summer. Today I took a look at why it was causing X to crash. The crash happens when the program calls gdk_draw_point for every star it displays. I changed my copy to draw all of the stars into a GdkPixbuf, then I copy the GdkPixbuf onto the drawable area. Maybe someone knows why lots of gdk_draw_points would crash X. I think using the GdkPixbuf is faster anyways, so I'll try to add this to the bug posted on the orrery project page. Ben Xorg crash fixed http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=a02d3d0eefe03576c33294b4201fdbe6bde21cde I'll apply your orrery patch too, but pitty that upstream didn't apply it (afaik). Regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ski wax chooser for freerunner
Hello All, I've made enough progress in my ski wax utility to share it. It is a rewrite of a utility I originally had written for my Motorola v551 that tries to tell you which kick wax to use on your nordic skis for the given conditions. http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/wax/ (Clearly I'm not a web developer) I don't have a bitbake recipe up yet, but you can check out the source with svn and run pkg/createpackage.sh to roll your own package. There is also an ipk available for download. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The epoch is upon me.
Jon, I'm don't know how you can be sure the clock battery is to blame, but I just wanted to mention that I replaced the battery with a single supercap. The pair of supercaps was because I have two freerunners. Ben On 12/21/2010 07:55 AM, Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE) wrote: The last time my FreeRunner's battery died, the clock reset to epoch. Now, it no longer keeps time during suspend either. I'm guessing this means the clock battery has finally died. Someone recently commented that they replaced their battery with a pair of super caps. I just wanted to confirm my diagnosis before I take a soldering iron to my phone. Cheers, John Gay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
(there are not all peripherals installed but UMTS and GPS will be). It might be possible to retrofit some of them. I am quite interested, but a bit hesitant for missing goodies. Do you have some (closer) estimate about what's missing and what which of those things are retrofittable? I'm hesitant too, so I made a donation which it sounds like will be used to subsidize the handset of someone braver than I. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The epoch is upon me.
effect to make ffalarms useless ... I thought that had to do with an fsotdld issue (http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/596) Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ****SPAM(7.5)****
You are right, I did not have it on the top of my mind since I use the workaround: As a temporary workaround one can enable otimed subsystem in /etc/frameworkd.conf: [otimed] disable = 0 Would using otimed allow setting time from GSM and GPS like it used to? Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
list strangeness
I haven't been receiving messages either. Ben On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Doug Jones wrote: / I just realized I haven't received any mail from this list for the past // week. But the list archives show some messages during that period, // including some I just sent. / / Anybody else having this problem? (If you don't receive this, please // reply to the list. ;) / I'm having this problem. I realized the same thing, went looking through the archive, and found this post there - so yes, I didn't receive it. ;) A different list I'm on had a similar problem recently, which turned out to be caused by the IP block the list server was in having ended up in a blacklist, so that mailhosts using the blacklist wouldn't accept mail from the list. I guess this could be the case here too, so someone who knows how to check these things might want to check it out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
list strangeness
It looks like lists.openmoko.org (88.198.124.203) is blacklisted by backscatterer.org: http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a88.198.124.203 Is that the problem? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
It's not a camera
http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/index.php?level=albumid=26 After attempting to use a bmp085 as a temperature sensor for my skiwax program (http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/wax/) and not getting good results (at least partially due to thermal leakage through the i2c wires), I added a mlx90614 to my freerunner. It is an infrared thermometer with a temperature range of -70C to 380C. It reacts quickly to changes in temperature and sort of fits in the freerunner case. Installation is similar to the Freerunner Navigation Board install. Christoph Mair has written a kernel module for it. The module is on gitorious, but is not yet available upstream. There is a similar part called a mlx90615 which is much smaller, but also has a smaller temperature range. It may not work with the current kernel module, but could probably work with small changes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
barom - an altimeter/weather utility for freerunner
Hello All, I think this project is working well enough to share: http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/barom/ This project uses the bmp085 barometer to show either weather or altitude. The bmp085 is part of the freerunner navigation board, is to be part of the GTA04, and can be installed separately. I don't think I have an account to edit the openmoko wiki, but this could go under userspace software in the Freerunner Navigation Board page. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: barom - an altimeter/weather utility for freerunner
On 02/05/2011 07:23 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: I think this project is working well enough to share: http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/barom/ The source code in svn talks about version 0.2 but there's already a binary for 0.3? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community oops, forgot to check in the latest, it should be there now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware Flashed, now UBIFS problem and Kernel Panic
On 04/14/2011 12:13 PM, Thomas Franck wrote: --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Davedave...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Raphael Wimmer raphael.wim...@ifi.lmu.de wrote: If there is a better solution that preserves the FS, I would be happy to learn about it. I wonder if it would be possible to boot into a distro on the sd card and mount the nand partitions. Then you could save /home. Just a thought. Yes, it is: just mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock6 /mountpoint Thank you all for your input.. I put a qtmoko v35 on an SD card.. an on terminal I did: mkdir /home/root/nandfs mount -t ubifs /dev/mtdblock6 /home/root/nandfs but sadly that doesn't work.. dmesg tells me: UBIFS error: ubifs_get_sb: cannot open /dev/mtdblock6, error -22 Any ideas? Cheers, I think you need to attach the ubifs before mounting. See http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/UBI-success-story-td4218730.html for the steps, though unless you want to reformat, you shouldn't follow all of them. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shiftd
A bigger screen/cooler case would be nice, but keep the resistive touch-screen. It works better in the rain/snow. On 06/10/2011 10:14 AM, Denis Shulyaka wrote: 10 июня 2011 г. 18:02 пользователь Ben Thompson ben.thomp...@yandex.ru написал: How about a new case/display module for the GTA04 I totally agree with you! The only weak point of GTA04 would be the small screen (in physical dimensions) and lack of capacitive sensetivity. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ATT and my beloved Freerunner
I switched from ATT to tmobile a couple years ago to get on tmobile's 200 minute plan. I found this which mentions some ATT network changes that result in them trying to replace old phones: http://www.phonecan.com/index.php/customer-qustions-at-t-sent-me-a-letter-for-a-free-upgrade-with-no-contract *Shutdown of the Cellular One Network - *ATT purchased Cellular One and began migrating customers late in 2007. Customers had the option of keeping the same phone and were sent a special SIM card to make it compatible with the ATT network. In order to make the Cell One phones compatible certain parts of the legacy Cell One network had to be maintained even after the migration process was complete. In late 2010 the campaign for the network shutdown began and the customers still using their Cell One phones were given the option of a free upgrade with no contract or yet another SIM card that would make their phones compatible with the ATT network. *Shutdown of the (Original) ATT Wireless Network* -- Cingular purchased ATT /Wireless/ in 2004. Cingular changed its name to ATT /Mobility/ in 2007 after one of its parent companies purchased ATT /Incorporated/, provider of landline services. Years later there are still a few customers on the network using their same handsets from ATT wireless that are at least 6 years old. The free no-contract upgrade letters began going out in early 2011. The actual shutdown happens in May. As of yet I have not heard of the option to just get a new SIM. *Single-Band GSM (2G) 1900mhz Handset Users -- *After the merger of ATT Wireless and Cingular in 2004, Cingular owned licenses in the 850 and 1900 band throughout most of the country. Cingular dual cast its GSM signal in both bands until it began deployment of its 3G network in 2005. The 3G technology then took over the 1900 band. If you're in one of the 2G areas that are scheduled to be upgraded to 3G in the soon future and you have one of these phones, you would have received one of these mailers offering a free upgrade with no contract. *Users of 2G Phones with High Voice Usage* -- I don't fully understand the technological aspects of this one. All I know it the users who currently using 2G phones in certain states (California is one of them) are being sent free-upgrade-with-no-contract mailers. I could speculate that the 3G handles voice calls more efficiently and they want to keep both 2G and 3G networks running smoothly, but that's purely speculation. On 08/25/2011 09:31 PM, error wrote: ATT has been calling and text'ing for the last 2 months. They have informed me that my phone will no longer be compatible with their network on Monday Aug 29-30, 2011. Has anyone else running into this issue? -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/AT-T-and-my-beloved-Freerunner-tp6727047p6727047.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
osmocombb?
Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ It sounds like they have made a lot of progress since I last looked at their site. It sounds like they can make and receive calls using open source modem firmware. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: osmocombb?
I hadn't thought about legal issues. I'd be surprised if an open source radio stack was ever legal since it wouldn't implement some of the anti-features required (hard to change IMEI, silently drop encryption, etc). On 08/26/2011 08:42 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ Not many of us have our own base station yet and afaik it is not legal to use osmocombb in a public network. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My VoIP experience in Freerunner
This is the first I have heard of removing the case screws to reduce echo. Has this worked for anyone else? [/threadjack] On 08/29/2011 03:13 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Thanks for sharing the valueable info :) Tiago Bortoletto Vazti...@debian.org writes: • I was not able to have default Freerunner headset working on an acceptable quality. Help will be very welcome. I think the voip-handset state file is supposed to be used with the handset (i.e. builtin mic and speaker) rather than with the headset. You'd need to study the routing diagram[1] to see what changes are needed to get a voip-headset setup. To check if it's working, you can simply load the statefile and then use ``arecord'' to record a sample file, scp it to your PC and check the levels and quality. Then scp some other known to be good file from PC to FR and use ``aplay'' to check the playback quality. Also, make sure you're not CPU-bound. As s3c2442 lacks an FPU, you probably should avoid codecs that require floating point operations, and also probably you might need to disable echo cancellation and/or silence detection. Be warned though, afaict the FR case (especially if you have both screws properly secured, i personally use my device without those for several years without any issues) provokes echo, so you might need to find an acceptable way (yet-to-be-discovered hardware mod or software) to do echo cancellation. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: temperature and humidity data logger
When I was looking for temperature sensors to provide input for my ski wax program, I found an I2C temperature and humidity sensor. Sparkfun has it on a breakout board: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9418 I did some experiments earlier with using the BMP085 barometer's internal temperature sensor for temperature monitoring, but heat from the freerunner was throwing off the readings. If you can locate the sensor where it won't be affected by the internal heat of the freerunner, I2C is not a bad way to go. The installation instructions for the freerunner-navigation-board show where to find the I2C connectors in the phone. If you choose a sensor that already has linux drivers, you will be able to read temperature from /sys and your logger program shouldn't be too difficult. If you are planning to place the sensor away from the phone, I2C may not work, I don't know the maximum wire length for that bus. On 11/19/2011 01:54 AM, Hans Zimmerman wrote: Hey all, I would like to start logging the temperature and humidity inside our house. Are there people with experience in using the freerunner as a temperature and humidity data logger? What kind of devices would be connectible (usb, bluetooth, other) to do that? Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
I2C and GPS
For months now I have had poor performance with my Freerunner's GPS. The GPS problems did not seem to coincide with the two times I have opened my Freerunner to add I2C sensors. I have an infrared thermometer and a barometer. Lately I have missed the GPS enough to look into the issue more. After trying various things in software and messing with the GPS antenna, I started to look at my sensors. The reference schematics for both sensors call for a 100nf decoupling capacitor between ground and VDD. I looked around in my junk bin for some. All I could find were some huge (for the inside of a FR case) ceramic ones. They didn't seem to help. Using frameworkd.log with the log level turned up, I was able to watch the UBX packets as they came down and disconnecting SDA and SCL for both sensors gave an immediate improvement in GPS reception. I didn't notice a problem with reception when I first added the sensors. Was anything done in software that would make I2C cause more interference? Should I pursue the decoupling capacitors? Does it matter what kind if they are 100nf? Thanks for any ideas, Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I2C and GPS
With the i2c devices removed, I get TTFF of around 1 minute in shr-core. It sounds like putting ferrite beads on SDA and SCL might help reduce EMI, so I will try that when I get a chance. Ben On 11/23/2011 05:06 PM, dmatthews.org wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:20:16 -0500 Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org wrote: Hi Ben Not sure this is relevent to you, but I now have the fastest GPS fix I've ever had on the freerunner. QTMoko v35 and I put this in /etc/default/gpsd:- START_DAEMON=true GPSD_OPTIONS= DEVICES=/dev/ttySAC1 USBAUTO=false GPSD_SOCKET=/var/run/gpsd.sock Before doing this it was pretty poor - worse than earlier versions of qtmoko and much worse than every SHR I've tried. On a reasonably clear day I now reliably get a fix in under a minute, sometimes within a few seconds. The only other varying factor (doubtful relevence) is that I got pissed with QTMoko and to a lesser extent SHR foobarring the SD card, so I'm now running from the card instead of NAND and everything is pretty good ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I2C and GPS
Dusting off a very old thread... I have both of my sensors working and good gps performance now. This weekend I opened the position settings-satellite details dialog in SHR as well as my phone and tried a few things. I was seeing serious signal loss as soon as I connected the SCL line from the sensor to the test pad near the debug connector. I tried wrapping the SCL wire around a ferrite bead, and putting a decoupling cap between power and ground near the sensor. What ended up working was adding a series resistor on the SCL line. I grabbed a largeish SMD resistor from some volkswagen parts I had laying around (http://www.jeepingben.net/plog-content/thumbs/2010/volkswagen/large/995-dscf2246.jpg). I thought I was grabbing a 470 ohm, but I guess it was 4.7k (marked 472). With this resistor in series everything works. I don't know if anyone else is adding i2c sensors to their freerunner, but I thought this might be helpful. Ben On 11/24/2011 11:36 AM, Alastair Johnson wrote: Given the performance degradation in GPS lock cause by high SD drive strength and the i2c being on flying leads right next to the antenna I certainly wouldn't rule it out. On 11/24/2011 01:49 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote: Hi You can try to add a series resistor to the signals or reducing the drive strength of the driver. The frequency of the signals are not that important but rather the rise time. This is usually not a problem om i2c but who knows. On 24/11/2011, at 14.17, Dave dave...@gmail.com mailto:dave...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Ferrite beads aid with removing VHF-SHF feedback and/or uncontrolled oscillation mainly. I cannot see why they would be of use on a (500khz?) I2C bus. At that frequency they would have minimal effect. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org mailto:ben_deer...@swissmail.org wrote: With the i2c devices removed, I get TTFF of around 1 minute in shr-core. It sounds like putting ferrite beads on SDA and SCL might help reduce EMI, so I will try that when I get a chance. Ben On 11/23/2011 05:06 PM, dmatthews.org http://dmatthews.org wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:20:16 -0500 tel:16%20-0500 Benjamin Deeringben_deering@swissmail.__org mailto:ben_deer...@swissmail.org wrote: Hi Ben Not sure this is relevent to you, but I now have the fastest GPS fix I've ever had on the freerunner. QTMoko v35 and I put this in /etc/default/gpsd:- START_DAEMON=true GPSD_OPTIONS= DEVICES=/dev/ttySAC1 USBAUTO=false GPSD_SOCKET=/var/run/gpsd.__sock Before doing this it was pretty poor - worse than earlier versions of qtmoko and much worse than every SHR I've tried. On a reasonably clear day I now reliably get a fix in under a minute, sometimes within a few seconds. The only other varying factor (doubtful relevence) is that I got pissed with QTMoko and to a lesser extent SHR foobarring the SD card, so I'm now running from the card instead of NAND and everything is pretty good _ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/__mailman/listinfo/community http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-Core : Display issue?
I seem to remember something about event filtering being moved from kernelspace to userspace. If that is correct, you are running without any event filtering. The signal from the touchscreen hardware is very noisy, and software is needed to average it out. Upgrading the rootfs might be a good idea anyway. I have the last shr unstable installed in NAND on my freerunner, and the latest shr-core installed on an sd card. SHR-core is stabilizing quickly and I use it as my daily phone now. If you have everything working the way you want it with shr-unstable it might be worth making a backup. Last winter I wrote myself a script to go from a fresh install to customized. It installs programs, adds extra kernel modules for some sensors I added, changes some config files, and downloads then extracts a backup of my home directory. This makes it a lot less daunting to do a reflash. Ben On 01/09/2012 10:00 AM, Iain B. Findleton wrote: I have been running the SHR 2.6.29 kernel for a while. Lately I tried to install the latest SHR-core kernel (2.6.39.4) WITHOUT installing the rootfs files. This procedure has worked fine for other kernel upgrades. In this latter case, while running 2.6.39, the display appears to have gotten into trouble in that touch screen locations appear to be wildly off. Applications no longer respond to button press activity as expected, and it appears that the coordinates of the press are off in the y direction by about 50% of the screen size. Anybody have an idea why this would be so? Is upgrading the rootfs a requirement for the new kernel? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-Core : Display issue?
you have to use --numeric-owner while untaring it. Otherwise ownership of some files might be wrong - which then causes stuff like dbus-activation to not work correctly causing GSM to not work correctly. Btw. GSM is unrelated to connman. I didn't know that, that explains some problems I had when I tried to install 017 on my spare FR recently. I have installed an older (011ish maybe?) tar.gz a while ago and set my feeds to shr-core-staging/latest, then I've been doing opkg upgrade when there is an update. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I2C and GPS
I promised myself that I wouldn't take my FR apart again until it was time to install the GTA04 board so I won't have pics of what I did this weekend, but I can share some other info. BMP085 barometer install pics: http://www.jeepingben.net/index.php?level=albumid=24 MLX90614 thermometer install pics: http://www.jeepingben.net/index.php?level=albumid=26 Adding i2c devices to a Freerunner is fairly easy. There are only 4 wires and as long as there aren't address conflicts, you can just keep adding more devices. Here is where you can find a picture of where to attach the wires: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Navigation_Board_v2#Installation The change I made this weekend was to stand an SMD resistor up vertically on the SCL test pad (If you look at the pictures I link above, that is where the orange wire attaches to the board) in the FR and solder it. I then attached the SCL wires for my 2 sensors to the top of the resistor. I used 4.7k ohm which is probably more than I should have used, but it works. I think 1K might make more sense, there was some mention of adding series resistors for long i2c circuits, though each of my SCL wires is 8 cm at the most. Sorry for the lack of pictures of the current state, but the way I crammed the BMP085 in is fragile and I don't want to break it. I hope my description along with the other pics makes it clear enough. As for schematics, i2c is just 4 wires VDD - voltage source on the AUX button GND - ground side of the clock battery (supercap in my case) SDA - SDA test pad near the debug connector SCL - 4.7k resistor -SCL test pad near the debug connector The reference implementation for the 2 sensors I installed was a little more complicated with pullup resistors and decoupling capacitors, but everything seems to work without them. Ben On 01/11/2012 07:46 AM, David Matthews wrote: can we have a picture of the final tweak� please ? +1 yes please! I'm struggling to understand what you've done, but ity sounds like something I'd be very please to have. and by the way that stuff I wrote earlier about sdcards was garbage - it was a faulty card, not a problem with qtmoko or shr For me now first thoughts when I see an sdcard problem are that either the card is faulty or inherantly incompatible with the freerunner (and that seems very common) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy
The phone can present itself as a usb mass storage device (thumb drive), so if you put an OS image on a partition on the SD card (up to 32GB), you could have the desktop boot from that. Ben On 04/22/2012 09:09 AM, Travis Bachelder wrote: Thanks for you input Lionel, Actually: What I am thinking isn't remote. More like having the operating system installed onto the GTA04 (outfitted with a larger hardrive of course). Plug the phone into a computer (via usb perhaps?) then restart computer to boot from the OS installed onto you slick 60 gb GTA04. This seems possible, the only hurdle I see is the hardware, what would it take to outfit a GTA04 phone with a larger hardrive? Thanks, Travis -- Forwarded message -- From: Lionel Brochelionel.bro...@gmail.com To: List for Openmoko community discussioncommunity@lists.openmoko.org Cc: Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:07:22 +0100 Subject: Re: GTA04_This is my Fantasy I am not a specialist and I am not sure to understand what you mean by 'boot linux from any desktop', but I have been experimenting remote connections lately so my results may interest you. The idea of remote connection is that you boot your device normally (the client), and access a remote computer (the host) once the operating system is running on the client. Usually you only need a very light operating system so the client machine does not need to be powerful. I have been using a letux 400 (very small device, 2Gb Flash drive, rather slow) as a client to connect to my home computer. Since a letux is (really) not powerful, I dropped the idea of using a full remote desktop but this is likely to be possible on the GTA04 (see Vino, Remmina and others for remote desktop applications). Instead of that, I opened some X windows directly via ssh (use the -X option when you connect with ssh, there is a bit of fidling around with keys and host authoring). This technique allows you to control the GUI of a host from a light remote client. In final I could run some large applications (gimp, blender...) on my letux and to use them just as if I was using my home computer. Only the GUI of the application selected appeared on the screen. I am not sure if that is what you want to do. I can give more details if you need. Lionel On 21 April 2012 00:37, Travis Bacheldertbachel...@shively.com wrote: Just so everyone knows: I am not a programmer (just a dreamer), with no grasp on reality in regards to what is feasible or not. I'll leave it to you (the community) to decide. I was thinking it would be cool if my imaginary cell phone (I also dream of one day owning one) had the capabilities to boot linux from any desktop, via USB, provided it's support. This would grant me access to large programs such as CAD software, Inventor/AutoCAD, music/movies/photos, from where ever a desktop computer was available (BIOS Mooch). I would imagine the phones would need to be outfitted with a small solid state hard drive (at least 60 gb), and it would be nice if it had the ability to share media files (music) between QTmoko and Ubuntu (maybe?). Has anyone ever fantasized about this? Is it feasible? or Possible? Thanks, Travis Bachelder This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Discussion: what are your dreams for the Openmoko Community
The infrared thermometer on my GTA02 has been very useful and it is not something that the iphone guys have. I will probably not be doing any soldering on my GTA04 for a while, but it might be something interesting to add to GTA05. I think the BMP085 in GTA04 is something the iphone guys don't have. Getting some clues for the upcoming weather is very useful when you are completely without signal. A threaded/prepared camera hole for attaching a microscope or telescope lense would be nice. This is probably best done over USB, but it could be done over an I2C adc converter volt-meter ph meter ohm-meter GPS that reliably gets a fix and displays in an app such as foxtrotgps while driving and hiking. I can wake the phone from suspend and find our location on the map before my friends who are using a paper map.(GTA02 does not do this) GPS app is able to download map tiles from my home server if I find myself outside of the area I planned to be (GTA02 does this) Phone tracks barometric pressure overnight while camping to give an indication of the upcoming day's weather. (my GTA02 does this, most do not, GTA04 does) Phone is able to play pre-downloaded podcasts or radio over headphones or speakers in the evening(GTA02 does half of this - headphone issues) Finger-friendly email(qtmoko does this, noone else has it yet) A web browser that works well enough to buy something online using the phone (from a site where I have not purchased before) (noone has this yet) While driving I can hand the phone to a passenger who is tech-savvy but not familiar with openmoko. They are able to wake, unlock, dial, start gps, start browser without much coaching from me. (qtmoko is closest, but noone has this yet) I take the phone from my pocket, wake it up, and take a picture faster than I can take off and open my backpack, take out my real camera, and take a picture. (not sure if anyone has this) I can enable an option so the phone makes noise when it associates with a tower(noone has this) I can reliably write an SMS, click send, and know it will be sent next time the phone has signal(I don't think anyone has this) I can enable Wifi tethering that a friend with a non-linux laptop can use(noone has this) I can keep most of my data on a dmcrypt partition that is decrypted after entering a pin in a gui login screen(noone has this) I can boot from NAND into an OS that runs at low brightness with everything but GSM turned off, access to contacts on my SIM, a dialer, ability to answer, SMS (aurora is working on this) Turn off the tv at my table at the resturaunt using IR (limited range is ok - the TV is at my table, not accross the bar) Plug phone into my car-stereo usb port, stereo sees a mass storage device with my music on it. (GTA02 does this, but file-system corruption follows) Reliable accelerometer screen rotation with bigger keyboard in landscape (this works sometimes on SHR) GPS program displays heading information from a digital compass, but position information from the GPS (multiple gpsd instances?) Easilly switch music output between loudspeaker, headphones, FM transmitter. An app to transmit arbitrary RDS (the text on FM tuner) while iterating over frequencies PGP encrypted voip (http://zfoneproject.com?) Make a small change to a python/perl program using full screen transparent terminal keyboard. Show my friends pictures I have taken on the phone by dragging from one to the next. Using GPS, compass, gyros, accelerometers, camera to display an augmented reality view of the night sky There is about 20 minutes worth of ideas, but I will keep thinking. Ben On 04/28/2012 05:52 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: It has become a little quiet here in the last weeks so that I really fear about the spirit and status of this community. So what are your dreams with respect to open mobile handhelds? What would you like as future hardware? What to see in software distros? Anything else? What missing piece are you waiting for? If we exchange these ideas it may be possible that we all work together (with smaller and bigger contributions - everyone as he/she likes) to fulfill them... Otherwise I guess we have just to consume what Apple, Samsung, MS-Nokia and others are confronting us with in the next years. May it be open or closed as they like. Or is this where we see our future? Or am I completely wrong in my impression? Phew - a lot of questions and so early in the morning :) Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Discussion: what are your dreams for the Openmoko Community
On 04/30/2012 08:21 AM, Al Johnson wrote: Nice list. Comments below... On Sunday 29 April 2012 18:59:34 Benjamin Deering wrote: A threaded/prepared camera hole for attaching a microscope or telescope lense would be nice. Is there any suitable standard for this? Microscope lenses seem to be 23.5mm, but I'm not sure if that would be the correct optics. It looks like someone sells a snap-on macro lense for iphone: http://store.apple.com/us/product/H7758LL/A/olloclip-quick-connect-lens-for-iphone-4s so maybe something could be designed and printed for GTA04 to snap on. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ok Tread lightly please. I'm an end User.
Hi, I'm not sure about the state of the ubi image of SHR right now. If it is good, I think you can install it with neotool (available in some linux distros, or buildable from source). You would need the ubi image, a kernel image, and a bootloader image. From neotool, click 'flash my freerunner', choose gui, bootloader, and kernel. It will tell you when and how to connect the phone. I think most people now only flash the bootloader, then put the OS on microSD. Ben On 05/15/2012 09:47 PM, Travis Bachelder wrote: So I am trying to format (Flash?) my Freerunner and put Qi (Bootloader) and SHR (OS) onto NAND. I've downloaded the ubifs image from the SHR website. What I am curious about is: Why isn't there a fancy program that does all this for me!? :) JK What I am really curious about is: Is the bootloader included in the ubifs image? I have a feeling it's a separate file. Is there a specific order I should flash? Right now, Android installed on the NAND. Do I need to remove this, or should the flashing process take care of this for me? I would like to replace the Android OS completely. No such thing as too much detail, I appreciate any response. Thanks, Travis This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ELM 327 Bluetooth OBD2
I've used a usb ELM327 based scanner with my GTA02. I have successfully read codes, cleared codes, and watched sensors. I use this program: http://code.google.com/p/pyob2read/ but I strip out references to the graph library is I couldn't find it for GTA02. I cant seem to find my modified script or I would share it. Ben On 06/03/2012 03:24 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: Has anybody tried their GTA0[24] with the above device? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ELM 327 Bluetooth OBD2
GTA02 seems to be able to supply a lot of power. I have used mine to charge a Petzl core battery. The charging was less important than using the GTA02 to reprogram the battery's internal regulator. It had no problem powering the ELM327, but I would hope that is getting the power from the car's electrical system. On 06/03/2012 04:49 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: On 3 June 2012 21:43, Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org wrote: I've used a usb ELM327 based scanner with my GTA02. I have successfully read codes, cleared codes, and watched sensors. I use this program: http://code.google.com/p/pyob2read/ but I strip out references to the graph library is I couldn't find it for GTA02. I cant seem to find my modified script or I would share it. Thanks. Were you able to draw power over the USB connection? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ELM 327 Bluetooth OBD2
Jeff, I just went out and tested and the ELM327 does not charge my phone in host or device mode. It may be possible to use a Y usb cable to charge and talk to ELM327 at the same time if you need to log for longer than the FR battery will last. Using a Y cable in that way could also be dangerous though. I seem to recall seeing something about not using ELM327 with a plugged in computer, but you could try it with a meter first, then an expensive device. Ben On 06/04/2012 02:55 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: On 4 June 2012 01:23, Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org wrote: to reprogram the battery's internal regulator. It had no problem powering the ELM327, but I would hope that is getting the power from the car's electrical system. I was hoping that the ELM327 could power the FR over USB from the car. Are you saying that didn't happen? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading SHR-CORE
On 08/23/2012 04:12 PM, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: Hi, I have shr-core 2012.01 installed on my openmoko. I saw that new versions are available (2012.07 and shr-core). What is the upgrade process? opkg upgrade does not update my system. Thanks in advance, To get newer SHR you will need to switch your feeds. See here for more info: *http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Stabilizing *To switch to the bleeding edge: sed -i 's#/shr-.*/ipk/#/shr-core-staging/latest/ipk/#g;' /etc/opkg/*-feed.conf It may be too big of a jump to opkg upgrade. If things go wrong and you have to reflash, keep track of your customization steps. I made myself a script that does90% of the work making things the way I like after a clean install. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] flight mode power consumption / turning gsm back on
On 08/28/2012 07:21 AM, Radek Polak wrote: On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 08:54:12 AM robin wrote: I have a question regarding the flight mode: if I turn it on (GTA02 qtmoko v47) the icon is shown on the home screen and calls are not possible anymore, so this is how I expected it to behave, but the antenna still seems to be on as I see some bars indicating reception and the power consumption stays the same as without flight mode. I dont know much about it, but i think flight mode means that you dont transmit any signal, but you can still receive signal strength. Modems have AT commands for airplane mode. I tried it on GTA04 (AT_OAIR) without any effect, maybe i did something wrong... there once was a paper which looked at different parts of power consumption of the freerunner and if I remember correctly GSM was one of the major consumers. You can check yourself - power off the modem and put the phone in suspend and watch charge_now: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/2012-August/002853.html Now if I turn flight mode of the GSM apparently cannot connect to the station anymore and I have to reboot. No idea here. I dont use airplanes ;-) Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I always meant to hack my install to change it from 'airplane mode' to 'woods mode' because a GSM radio that is out of range of towers devours the battery. On GTA02, power consumption drops a lot in this mode. On my most recent trip I powered my GTA04 off completely unless I needed to check the GPS. On a trip this winter a friend with a certain apple product was amazed at the battery life they got in airplane mode. 3 days of photo-viewing and listening to mp3s and it still had extra battery. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] flight mode power consumption / turning gsm back on
On 08/28/2012 07:44 AM, robin wrote: hi ben, could you please give some more detail on how do you set it in woods mode? and does the gsm power on afterwards correctly or do you have to restart the phone? thanks robin ps: here is the link to the paper on powerconsumption of the freerunner: http://www.ssrg.nicta.com.au/publications/papers/Carroll_Heiser_10.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I use SHR most of the time, but the same thing should apply. I just meant to change the GUI to call 'airplane mode' 'woods mode' because my phones go in the woods and I don't fly very much at all. I suspect something is wrong with airplane mode on both qtmoko and SHR for gta04 if airplane mode doesn't use less power. Transmitting would be the biggest power draw and even if the modem remained powered up power consumption should drop unless it is transmitting. On gta02, I could turn 'airplane mode' off and on and it usually worked. I never spent a lot of time watching power consumption on gta02, but I did keep track of battery life. On gta04, we are still figuring out power management and I had some charging issues so I was dumping 'current_now' once a second in various configurations. A somewhat unrelated thing I noticed and should report is that the 'idle dim' state of fsodeviced actually uses more power. The process of smoothly dimming the display wakes up the CPU and by the time it settles back down, it is time to turn off the display anyway. I didn't mean to steer this away from qtmoko, but I think most of the power related issues we are seeing are happening at a low level and apply to all distros. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA02 boot without battery
My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is getting a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my hifi wirelessly. I would like to remove the battery from this phone once it is set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up another battery for long trips. Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix. It sounds like A7 had a change to allow it to boot without a battery. Does anyone know what the change is and if it is something I could apply myself? I am going to be doing the bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time. Thanks, Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 boot without screen
On 01/02/2013 08:45 AM, rhn wrote: On Wednesday 02 of January 2013 07:30:44 Benjamin Deering wrote: My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is getting a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my hifi wirelessly. I would like to remove the battery from this phone once it is set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up another battery for long trips. Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix. It sounds like A7 had a change to allow it to boot without a battery. Does anyone know what the change is and if it is something I could apply myself? I am going to be doing the bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time. Thanks, Ben Hi Ben, I'm interested in how you got the board to boot and be accessible from outside without a screen. Some time ago my GTA02 was dunked in water and that broke its screen. After reflashing SHR, I wasn't able to access it in any way because the screen was required to finish setup. What distribution did you use? Cheers, rhn P.S. If anyone's interested in the device, feel free to contact me. I haven't tried my bare board yet. My plan was to get wifi, avahi, and pulseaudio all starting automatically on the complete phone, then try the SD card in the bare board. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 boot without battery
On 01/02/2013 07:44 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 02.01.2013 um 13:30 schrieb Benjamin Deering: My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is getting a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my hifi wirelessly. I would like to remove the battery from this phone once it is set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up another battery for long trips. Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix. It sounds like A7 had a change to allow it to boot without a battery. Does anyone know what the change is and if it is something I could apply myself? I am going to be doing the bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time. I think it is C1767 on page 4: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf Thanks, that looks reasonable. Before I can try it I need to get some parts to build a capacitance meter so I can find some appropriate caps in my junk bin. Ben Thanks, Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 boot without screen
On 01/02/2013 05:41 PM, Benjamin Deering wrote: On 01/02/2013 08:45 AM, rhn wrote: On Wednesday 02 of January 2013 07:30:44 Benjamin Deering wrote: My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is getting a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my hifi wirelessly. I would like to remove the battery from this phone once it is set up to prevent damage to the battery and to free up another battery for long trips. Both of my GTA02s are A5 with buzzfix. It sounds like A7 had a change to allow it to boot without a battery. Does anyone know what the change is and if it is something I could apply myself? I am going to be doing the bass-fix and it would be nice to fix this at the same time. Thanks, Ben Hi Ben, I'm interested in how you got the board to boot and be accessible from outside without a screen. Some time ago my GTA02 was dunked in water and that broke its screen. After reflashing SHR, I wasn't able to access it in any way because the screen was required to finish setup. What distribution did you use? Cheers, rhn P.S. If anyone's interested in the device, feel free to contact me. I haven't tried my bare board yet. My plan was to get wifi, avahi, and pulseaudio all starting automatically on the complete phone, then try the SD card in the bare board. I spent some time on this over the weekend. The bare board boots fine without a screen. I got impatient waiting for the parts for my capacitance meter and scavenged some electrolytic caps since they are labeled. The worked fine for the bass fix. I didn't bother to put the shielding back on since I won't be using GSM. I am still unable to boot without battery. Repeated plugging and unplugging the usb occasionally starts to boot, but I get only a single LED flash (kernel doesn't load). Should I switch to a bigger cap? I am a software engineer. I shouldn't even be allowed to wield a soldering iron. I was also unable to avoid ordering an A1200 headset adapter. I couldn't find a way to fool the internal switches in the jack to let me solder a 3.5mm jack to a lead. Is there a reason electrolytic caps are a bad idea for these applications? Robin: I probably won't be documenting this other than on the mailing list. My software is such an ugly hack as is the hardware. I had trouble powering up wifi from systemd so my wifi script kills a bunch of processes and turns on the radio from sysfs. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need front face for gta02
Hello, The front cover on my GTA04 (formerly gta02) has several broken tabs. Occasionally the earpiece stops working unless I twist the case around. Does anyone have a front face/partial case including front face they are willing to sell in the US? Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 NAND problem and devirginator
On 10/30/2013 06:37 AM, Leonardo Guardati wrote: AHi, I have a bricked GTA02v7 and the Debug Board v3. I left it for quite some time and now I would like to revive it. I think there is a problem with the NAND Bad Block Table. But also could be I have flashed something wrong in the past. Anyway. The phone boots, but the display never activates, and the dfu-utils doesn't see the attached gta02. Using the debug board I can see the serial console spitting bootloaders messages. The NOR bootloader (I'm quite sure I never flashed it, so it should be the same shipped with the phone) says: # BEGIN console output \ # END console output Also I cannot get to the uboot prompt (the NOR one or the RAM one), where I would issue the various nand commands to erase nand and recreate the bad block table. from wiki this should be the sequence: nand bad nand scrub nand createbbt dynpart dynenv set u-boot_env saveenv Can anybody help me? I don't know how to get to the prompt of uboot. Or maybe there is another solution to clear the nand and recreate the bbt. Greetings. Leonardo I did something like this years and years ago. I broke the screen on my GTA02 and SDG systems sent me a 'broken' gta02 so I could use the screen. I played a little with the broken one and found that the bbt had almost every sector in it. I was able to rebuild the bbt and I still use that gta02 when my gta04 isn't working well. Sorry I can't remember the specifics, but I know I was able to do it without a debug board and almost certainly from the NOR u-boot. I vaguely remember a u-boot option to switch console output between serial and USB. If serial (debug board) isn't working for you, maybe try USB? Good luck, Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community] GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered
On 11/06/2013 06:02 PM, NeilBrown wrote: . Maybe in the spirit of openness a vote might be instructive. Does anyone actually want stereo aux input through the 2.5mm jack? Does anyone actually want to listen to the FM radio without wasting power? (no and yes for me). Thanks, NeilBrown Is there a similar possibility for the neo900? If so, my answer would also be no and yes. I see that Silicon Labs has a chip that does FM and weather band (si4739), but without transmit. If there is no place to cram a tx antenna, maybe this would be a good option. It looks like they are almost pin compatible - I think am antenna would replace tx antenna. This body part will be downloaded on demand. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPIO locations
On 02/17/2014 06:17 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: hi all, apologies if this question is answered elsewhere, i've done lots of searching of the openmoko wiki and the web, and can't find an answer i'd like to interface my freerunner with hardware switches to control some software. i believe gpio is the best way to do this, and have help from various bodies at my local maker space to do so. problem is, i can't locate the gpio pins on the motherboard. are there any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ cheers, If you aren't able to find the GPIOs, you could add an i2c-gpio expander. The i2c pad locations are known: http://chonyota.net/freerunner/FRNBv2/FRNBv2-Installation.pdf Good Luck, Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ping
On 06/17/2014 02:26 AM, Christoph Pulster wrote: Anybody out there ? :-) May I put some life in this list with my stock / offer list: GTA02, new, 299 eur GTA02, used, 199 eur Wikireader, 29 eur battery, originalnew, 9 eur power adapter, 9 eur Car holder, 5 eur leather case, 29 eur GPS antenna, 15 eur link cable, 4 eur spares display, 49 eur FREE Items for any order: pouch, headset, printed manual, display protection, debug board more infos in my tiny shop www.pulster.eu to all remaining Openmoko'ianian, have a nice summer time ! Christoph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Anyone in the US want to combine shipping? Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
batteries in USA available
Hello All, I have a few new in the bag openmoko batteries for sale. $20 + actual shipping. I think you will find this cheaper than having them shipped from Europe. Email me if you are interested. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 2450 mAh Smart Battery
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:11:58 +0200 Matteo Sanvito sanvym...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much Yury! my battery life is about 3 hours, your tutorial will help me! New batteries are still available through goldelico and pulster.de in Europe. I have some new-in-bag batteries available in the US. Ben Have a nice day! Matteo Il 02/set/2014 09:37 Yury S z...@onego.ru ha scritto: how to restore the battery for neo (pictures without any description, sorry) https://www.flickr.com/photos/zyth_2011/sets/72157646722873307/ thanks also to this useful video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnQJbKsJuQw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a GTA02 debug board, preferably v3
On Fri, 29 May 2015 10:14:34 +0200 rwr f rwr@gmail.com wrote: Title says it all. :) It doesn't say where you live. :) I have one that you can have if you are in the USA. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CMOS battery replacement
The backup battery (supercap?) is welded to its bracket and won't push out. I replaced the backup batteries in my GTA02s with supercaps several years ago. http://www.jeepingben.net/zen/zenphoto/index.php?album=2010/freerunner_supercap_install The parts I used didn't match the original footprint so it was a little work. If you get the exact replacement part, it would be easy if you have soldering experience. I vaguely remember a software problem causing the line that charges the backup bat/cap not being set high. Good luck, Ben On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:26:54 -0800 Andrew Schenckwrote: > The secondhand GTA04 I have now is pretty beat up and can't charge > because the USB port is disconnected. I've been using a spare GTA02 > as a charger, but every time I switch out batteries the clock resets > to 12/12/1999 16:00 and it's a pain to re-set it since network time > doesn't work. I couldn't find any information on the wiki about > replacing the CMOS battery to solve this problem; has anyone here > dealt with this same problem before and have recommendations? > > I disassembled a GTA02 enough to see the battery, but it didn't yield > to gentle pressure trying to slide out of its bracket and I don't > want to destroy things too badly in my attempt to fix them so I > didn't push too hard. Because of this, I don't even know the exact > type of button cell to buy to replace it. Any help would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > -Andrew > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CMOS battery replacement
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:38:54 -0800 Andrew Schenck <and...@springahead.com> wrote: > That's a lot more work than I had hoped. Thanks very much for the > info though. If I'm going to be soldering I might as well try to fix > the USB port and GPS port at the same time. > > -Andrew > > On 12/11/2015 1:30 PM, Benjamin Deering wrote: > > The backup battery (supercap?) is welded to its bracket and > > won't push out. > > > > I replaced the backup batteries in my GTA02s with supercaps several > > years ago. > > http://www.jeepingben.net/zen/zenphoto/index.php?album=2010/freerunner_supercap_install > > > > The parts I used didn't match the original footprint so it was a > > little work. If you get the exact replacement part, it would be > > easy if you have soldering experience. > > > > I vaguely remember a software problem causing the line that charges > > the backup bat/cap not being set high. > > > > Good luck, > > > > Ben > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:26:54 -0800 > > Andrew Schenck <and...@springahead.com> wrote: > > > >> The secondhand GTA04 I have now is pretty beat up and can't charge > >> because the USB port is disconnected. I've been using a spare > >> GTA02 as a charger, but every time I switch out batteries the > >> clock resets to 12/12/1999 16:00 and it's a pain to re-set it > >> since network time doesn't work. I couldn't find any information > >> on the wiki about replacing the CMOS battery to solve this > >> problem; has anyone here dealt with this same problem before and > >> have recommendations? I was successful in fixing the USB port, but never tried the GPS port. The GPS port is under a lot of stress when the board is installed. I ended up giving up on the traces and soldering thin wires to the ESD protection chip and to the leads on the jack. After getting the USB port connected electrically, I used JB weld epoxy to fix it mechanically. The repair lasted years including some pretty rough use and being reflow soldered. Good luck, Ben > >> > >> I disassembled a GTA02 enough to see the battery, but it didn't > >> yield to gentle pressure trying to slide out of its bracket and I > >> don't want to destroy things too badly in my attempt to fix them > >> so I didn't push too hard. Because of this, I don't even know the > >> exact type of button cell to buy to replace it. Any help would be > >> appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -Andrew > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko IMEI survey
The US GTA02 I still have (FCC EUNGTA02) uses 3546510116x. I have not tried inserting a SIM, but I have heard that frequencies have been repurposed and that it probably wouldn't work in the US and more. On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:12:21 -0800 Mychaela Falconiawrote: > Hello Openmoko and FreeCalypso communities, > > I am doing a survey of Openmoko device users to see what portions of > Openmoko's IMEI number range (TAC 35465101, a range of 1 million > possible numbers) have been used to number the 15 thousand or so > devices that have been made, and what portions are unused. Given that > fewer than 20 thousand units have been made out of the range of > 1 million IMEI numbers, simple logic says that at least 98 numbers > out of Openmoko's IMEI range must be still unused, and thus > potentially usable for new production of GTA02 verbatim clones and/or > FCDEV3B boards which are just the modem part of the GTA02. But I > need to make my very best effort to determine WHICH portions of Om's > IMEI range have already been used, so I use a different subrange for > new device numbering. > > Unfortunately it appears that no official factory records of IMEI > assignments have survived the demise of Openmoko-Inc (I tried asking > Sean M-P several times by email, but never heard anything back), hence > I am making my best effort to reconstruct this lost knowledge by way > of a community survey. > > To everyone reading this solicitation who owns an Openmoko device: I > would love to hear from you if your device falls into one of the > following 3 cases: > > 1: If you have a GTA01 (I have never seen one with my own eyes) as >opposed to the more common GTA02, I would love to hear if the first >8 digits of its IMEI are 35465101 (same as GTA02) or something >different. > > 2: If you have a GTA02 hardware variant with "US" bands, i.e., >850/1800/1900 MHz (FCC ID EUNGTA02), as opposed to the much more >common "EU" variant (900/1800/1900 MHz, FCC ID EUNGTA02E), same >request as above: I would like to know if the first 8 digits of the >IMEI are 35465101 or something different. Like with the GTA01, I >have never seen a "US" FreeRunner with my own eyes. > > 3: All Openmoko devices, whether GTA01 or GTA02, "EU" or "US": if the >first 8 digits of your IMEI are 35465101, but the following two >digits are something other than 16 or 96, I would like to know what >those two digits are. > > The two digits after the 35465101 TAC prefix are the first 2 digits of > the 6-digit SNR (serial number) field, and it is the usage of this SNR > space that I am after. So far the only Openmoko devices I have laid > my hands on have been GTA02 "EU" version units, their TAC has always > been 35465101, and the SNR field has always been either 16 on > older units or 96 on newer ones. However, if there have been > Openmoko devices made with something other than 16 or 96 in > the SNR field of the IMEI, I would really like to know about them so I > can avoid stepping on those subranges and pick a subrange that has not > been used at all. > > TIA for your participation in the survey, > > Mychaela Falconia > Mother of FreeCalypso > www.freecalypso.org > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community