Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
I followed the cell phone/spam disucssions with interest since about 3 years ago, I began receiving spam call/robot calls from the public school system telling me that my child could not attend without the propoer vacinations 3 problems: I have no school age children, I don't live in that district, and the message provded no contact information to tell them to stop. For a time, the calls were weekly or even daily. I searched for phone numbers for the school district but could never find the correct office. Eventually, last Spring, I was given a number to call. I could only leave a voice message and never got a call back but these robot calls appear to have stopped ... wait, I'd better check my phone good, no missed calls ... so far ... Subject: OT:Cell phone do not call After I got a new cell phone number recently I began receiving many spam SMS messages. I listed my cell number with the Do Not Call registry and the messages soon stopped. -- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. -- Forwarded Message From: Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:44:54 -0400 Subject: Re: OT:Cell phone do not call At 04:06 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: I think it is necessary to register cellphones (unless you enjoy wasting your time and minutes listening through all the voicemail spam before you are allowed to delete it). Ours were inundated until we put them on the list. We also got the occasional text message spam until we had it disabled. I don't know if text message spam is covered under Do Not Call (?). I VERY rarely turn my cell phone on. I carry it for emergency or for my own convenience. I turned it on last week for the first time in probably 2 mo., and there were 8 voice mails. I guess you have to call a number to get them? It's a prepaid TracFone. I didn't. I finally figured out how to delete them. I've given that number to 2 friends plus the nursing home (who insist I sign my friend out to a phone number when I take her out). My friends know I don't have the phone on unless we've made those arrangements. So I'm pretty sure those were spam calls. I'm not going to spend my minutes calling to listen to spam voicemails. Or wrong numbers, if that's what it was. I use up my 500 minutes--or whatever it is that I'm required to buy each year--in calling some LD friends toward the end of my year. I honestly don't want people finding me when I'm not home. They can leave a msg at home and I'll call them back. Most ppl who know me know they can reach me on email just as fast anyway. I actually had to get rude with a woman who came into my shop today. We started our transaction, and her cell phone rang. She proceeded with a conversation with her daughter--simple chit-chat. Meanwhile, I'm standing there waiting to finish with her. I did finally say something to her. Like I had nothing better to do than to wait while she finished her conversation? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] iPhone: Perfect spying device
A few choice quotes: All iPhone applications run with full root privileges and any application vulnerability means winner takes all. The iPhone has been turned into a pocket-sized ... network-enabled root shell. Moore revealed multiple security chasms on Apple's device: The first and most shocking is that each and every process running on the iPhone ... [runs] with full root privileges. What that means: A security vulnerability in any iPhone application can lead to complete system takeover. A rootkit takes on a whole new meaning when the attacker has access to the camera, microphone, contact list and phone hardware. Couple this with 'always-on' Internet access over EDGE and you have a perfect spying device, The shellcode combined with the number of bugs present in the iPhone finally make mobile attacks a real threat, wrote Errata Chief Technology Officer David Maynor in a blog posting. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2191471,00.asp http://blog.metasploit.com/2007/09/root-shell-in-my-pocket-and-maybe-yours.html * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
At 10:19 AM 10/03/2007 -0400, Harvey Simon wrote Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. Only if I know they're a regular user. Or if I've been given that number to reach them. I'm sitting here now reading my TracFone instructions. It plainly says: Airtime units are used when you access your voice mail or retrieve voice mail messages from your TracFone. So I guess it depends on the phone/plan one has. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Acrobat .pdf file durability (was Oddball)
Many thanks, Betty! I can't wait to look at files from all that time ago... Another question: I know that you handle languages fonts with accents other than English. Some time ago, I used Acrobat5 to convert many webpages relevant to a project to .pdf. Diacriticals worked fine, everything. Tried to open one of those older .pdf's in Acrobat6 today, prompt came up cannot or create the font HelveticaCE, and files were all corrupted into a series of dots. This is in OSX10.4, not only is HelveticaCE ( other Czech fonts) available, but so are Hungarian fonts, Chinese, Korean, Japanese. Wandered over to my old G3 still using Acrobat5, everything reads just fine. I know that friends have some troubles with current Acrobat. I thought .pdf was a kind of permanent file format for those of us who wish somehow to create archives digitally. Any thoughts? Chad Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] paypal phish
I frequently get phishing emails from paypal mike wrote: Watch your paypal friends and neighbors. My wife just received a phishing email claiming to be paypal but in fact took her to a very PP looking website under the name pajpal. We forwarded the email to paypal. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Sorry about the wrong info on voice mail charges. I think you're right -- it depends. On the other point, I just think that a good test of any behavior is whether you'd be content if everyone did the same. If everyone used their cell phones exclusively for outgoing calls, no one would ever be reachable by cell. The situation is somewhat analogous to answering machines. I don't REALLY need an answering machine because if someone wants to reach me badly enough, they'll call back. But I'm glad other people do have answering machines so I don't have to keep calling them if they don't answer. I can't chuck mine in good conscience w/o being OK with everyone else doing the same. -- Forwarded Message From: Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:55:41 -0400 Subject: Re: OT:Cell phone do not call At 10:19 AM 10/03/2007 -0400, Harvey Simon wrote Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. Only if I know they're a regular user. Or if I've been given that number to reach them. I'm sitting here now reading my TracFone instructions. It plainly says: Airtime units are used when you access your voice mail or retrieve voice mail messages from your TracFone. So I guess it depends on the phone/plan one has. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Cell phone numbers are recycled, more often for PAYGO. So if the person who gave up the number when they didn't bother to refill their card doesn't tell friends, etc., that the number isn't theirs any more, you will likely get their number with your new phone and their unwanted phone calls. If the person is under 25, you'll also get unwanted texts. When you have one of the more expensive plans, you may get free voice mail, but that's not the case with basic plans or PAYGO. I have to use my minutes to check voice mail. If I had the service that costs twice as much, my voice mail would be free. Some services will charge for voice mail messages that have been recorded, whether or not you retrieve them at all. I disabled my husband's voicemail on his little rubber cell phone for just that reason. He has caller ID. When he recognizes a number or a name in the phonebook, he answers or returns the call, otherwise he asks me how to delete the unknown number. ;-) I followed the cell phone/spam disucssions with interest since about 3 years ago, I began receiving spam call/robot calls from the public school system telling me that my child could not attend without the propoer vacinations 3 problems: I have no school age children, I don't live in that district, and the message provded no contact information to tell them to stop. For a time, the calls were weekly or even daily. I searched for phone numbers for the school district but could never find the correct office. Eventually, last Spring, I was given a number to call. I could only leave a voice message and never got a call back but these robot calls appear to have stopped ... Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Acrobat .pdf file durability (was Oddball)
As one who uses several different languages in my work [and play], I've memorized most of the keyboard combinations for special symbols, accents, umlauts, etc. I still use the old Key Caps to find what I need quickly, and I have a chart, too. When you create a document in Acrobat, there are a few things that you need to do so that it's more universal. First, save it as Acrobat 4 compatible. More important, be sure to embed all of the fonts that you use, especially if you want it to be cross-platform. Embedding fonts is very important in many applications. I learned to do that early on with files exported for offset printing, and for files I'd send out without knowing what OS and fonts the recipients were using. Embedding the fonts is the only way you can usually guarantee that the document will look the way you intend/expect when others view it. I have what I call my Puerto Rican/Mexican keyboard that I got in Miami to do books in Spanish. There are other keyboards you can buy or covers for keys so that you can know which keys produce symbols you need without memorizing or using a chart. Do you have the Key Caps program? I think it was included in Jaguar and Panther, but not Tiger. In System Preferences/International there's a Keyboard viewer, but it's much smaller than Key Caps, and hard to read. Use Keyboard Viewer for Key Caps functions - http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25618 Typing Special Characters and Symbols - http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=34575 Reference for EVERY Character Key on a Mac - http://www.gosquared.com/liquidicity/archives/172 Since you use Czech frequently, install the fonts you need and select the checkbox for that and all other languages you use in System Prefs, so that the flag of the country of origin will be in the menu bar. Command+spacebar switches from one language to another; the flag indicates which is in use. Betty Many thanks, Betty! I can't wait to look at files from all that time ago... Another question: I know that you handle languages fonts with accents other than English. Some time ago, I used Acrobat5 to convert many webpages relevant to a project to .pdf. Diacriticals worked fine, everything. Tried to open one of those older .pdf's in Acrobat6 today, prompt came up cannot or create the font HelveticaCE, and files were all corrupted into a series of dots. This is in OSX10.4, not only is HelveticaCE ( other Czech fonts) available, but so are Hungarian fonts, Chinese, Korean, Japanese. Wandered over to my old G3 still using Acrobat5, everything reads just fine. I know that friends have some troubles with current Acrobat. I thought .pdf was a kind of permanent file format for those of us who wish somehow to create archives digitally. Any thoughts? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
