Re: [Cooker] I wish cooker was cooker and cooker only!
Actually, when I downloaded the ISO's for the beta, the Mandrake site requested I also join the Cooker mailing list. So it seems like as far as Mandrake is concerned, Cooker and Beta are the same thing. Jean-Marc Valin wrote: I wish we dedicated this list (cooker) for the development version of Mandrake Linux, namely cooker! then, why isn't there a mandrake-beta mailing list... I wanted to send a list of bugs for the beta and cooker was the closest list I found. So there are three choices: - people continue sending beta bug reports to cooker - a new mailing list is created (or if it exists, it should be more publicized) - Mandrake asks beta users NOT to send bug reports (it would slightly defeat the goals of a beta, though!) Jean-Marc Valin -- Digital Wokan Tribal mage of the electronics age Guerilla Linux Warrior
Re: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget?
I use this on sunsite.uio.no and also these days with "ftp problems" with rsync sunsite.uio.no works pretty well, you can put a script like that in /etc/cron.hourly (or use /var/spool/cron if you want more flexibility) (it recovery from partial downloads) #!/bin/sh rsync -av --partial --progress --stats --delete --exclude=7.2beta/ sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake-devel /MIRROR/Mandrake-devel These are stats for my last daily-update started today at 08:01 CEST Number of files: 5926 Number of files transferred: 638 Total file size: 3439648191 bytes Total transferred file size: 462928634 bytes Literal data: 424270218 bytes Matched data: 38658416 bytes File list size: 177437 Total bytes written: 652455 Total bytes read: 424744051 wrote 652455 bytes read 424744051 bytes 286173.23 bytes/sec total size is 3439648191 speedup is 8.09 ...;o) On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi! Currently I'm using fmirror to mirror Cooker for myself. How do I use reget (resuming downloads where they stopped) with fmirror? Or, if fmirror does not support this, what other mirror tool should I use which supports this feature? Alexander Skwar -- - Franco Silvestro c/o CeSIA - Universita' degli Studi di Bologna
Antwort: Re: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget?
sunsite.uio.no supports rsync? Nice to know! Why is this not listed on the Cooker web page? Franco Silvestro [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 28.09.2000 09:01:41 Bitte antworten an [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cooker Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: (Blindkopie: Alexander Skwar/de/delphiauto) Thema:Re: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget? I use this on sunsite.uio.no and also these days with "ftp problems" with rsync sunsite.uio.no works pretty well, you can put a script like that in /etc/cron.hourly (or use /var/spool/cron if you want more flexibility) (it recovery from partial downloads) #!/bin/sh rsync -av --partial --progress --stats --delete --exclude=7.2beta/ sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake-devel /MIRROR/Mandrake-devel These are stats for my last daily-update started today at 08:01 CEST Number of files: 5926 Number of files transferred: 638 Total file size: 3439648191 bytes Total transferred file size: 462928634 bytes Literal data: 424270218 bytes Matched data: 38658416 bytes File list size: 177437 Total bytes written: 652455 Total bytes read: 424744051 wrote 652455 bytes read 424744051 bytes 286173.23 bytes/sec total size is 3439648191 speedup is 8.09 ...;o) On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi! Currently I'm using fmirror to mirror Cooker for myself. How do I use reget (resuming downloads where they stopped) with fmirror? Or, if fmirror does not support this, what other mirror tool should I use which supports this feature? Alexander Skwar -- - Franco Silvestro c/o CeSIA - Universita' degli Studi di Bologna
Re: [Cooker] Some bug reports for Beta 3
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Sound is not working. The card (AWE32) is found, but when testing it reports errors (OPL/3 is busy or so). Also I do not hear anything, even if I don't get any errors. Alex, can you investigate? Hum seems AWE32 doesn't handle OPL3 midi chipset... :-/ ok I'll remove it from configuration... Greets, Alex. -- MandrakeSofthttp://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Alexandre
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When confronted with unallowed access, as determined by tcpwrapper, xinetd segfault and freeze the terminal. Here's an extract from can you give me a exact state of the bugs i can reproduce ? -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
Netscape/Mozilla [Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback]
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Valin wrote: | I have absolutely no problems with Netscape 4.75. None. You say it's | the most unstable version yet you do not say what makes it unstable? | | Simple receipe (works about 50% of the times): | | - Click on a link to a .tgz or .rpm (or any other file you need to | download) | | - Enter the file name in the dialog. | | - Click OK. | | - The dialog doesn't close, and clicking cancel doesn't help either. | | - Close the dialog with the delete button | | - Netscape crashes. I can't say that Netscape is unstable. It's better to say that Netscape has compatibility issues with a lot of sites, and problems with rendering standard HTML code. First, there is no support for Absolute Positioning. /no CSS2 support/ Mozilla has partial support, but it's still far away from finished product. I don't know how long it will take - 6 months or 1 year, but current Mozilla is in Beta-stage. Unfortunately, Mozilla has even CSS1 issues. Just try my page http://kde2.newmail.ru - menu on left side are not rendered correctly both in Netscape and Mozilla. (and looks ok in Konqueror, while some font size is still wrong) One example of Netscape unstability from my experince. I was browsing one site, checking its code. Have opened 5 windows with "View Source" for 5 different frames. Browsed one more site in new window. Netscape crashed and killed all 6 (7? just don't remeber) windows... There is no "Bug Report/Backtrace" feature in Netscape like in Konqueror, so unfortunately I can't send it to you. One more glitch. Try to open directory with big number of files. I usally open "My Documents" on DOS/Windows partition. I have there about 500 pages saved with MS IE and Konqueror. Netscape will show some bull$hit. Mozilla ... just nothing. I was trying now, while writing this e-mail. In general, file management with Netscape/Mozilla (like - simple- show directory list) is terrible with Netscape/Mozilla, and not improving. | | I don't know if this is present with all versions or only the french one, | but I consider 4.75 to be unusable for me (I prefer the current Mozilla | builds to 4.75). | | 4.75 fixes some rather security problems (go to | www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/mdk71-updates.php3 and read about | them). If you don't mind massive security holes in your Netscape, | feel free to use anything other than 4.75. | | Then, I prefer no Netscape at all. | | Jean-Marc Valin Jean, may be, you can contribute some of your time to Konqueror testing? Konqueror has security model based on OpenSSL, and during last few weeks there was significant development for SSL connections. *** And, my short question to Vincent Danen. Vincent, does it make sense to report bugs for Netscape? Why we should do work what Netscape engineers paid for? (I mean, not only me and Jean-Marc, but you as well) The same about Mozilla. As far as I understand from mozilla.org, it is not GPL'ed. And now Netscape engineers approve patches. I can't say that this is bad. But Netscape/AOL has a lot of money, and despite of this they can't release good, standard-compliant, fast browser already for 3 years. And this money haven't helped them to make product good. (I am not speaking here about code size of Netscape/Mozilla) Best regards, Vadim Plessky
Re: [Cooker] Tcl/Tk 8.3.2-4mdk
Yo, To be sure about it, I've tried Tcl/Tk 8.3.1-6mdk. Bad news: it does not works too. Maybe RH 7 and Suse 7 either solved it or carry the same bug. I've reinstalled Tcl/Tk 8.0.5-19mdk (from 7.1 CDs), and I got the dead keys working again. I don't know , it might remain broke on the stock tcltk 8.3.x for a while ... :/ I doubt that RH solved it. I did a fair bit of merging and I believe I merged all of the changes from RH. However I don't know about SuSE ... To reproduce it, try to type something like "naïve"or "brüch" into any Tcl/Tk based application, with an us-international keyboard (and with a latin-1 char set?). Also, please tell me if some config file from my system could help you to reproduce the bug. Just name it. Probably, I would need your ~/.i18n or /etc/sysconfig/i18n too. In any case, I'm trying to look for a patch ...tcltk 8.0.x is ancient, and now that we have merged 8.3.x into the distribution, we cannot move back to 8.0.x as there are apps that need to be rebuilt etc, and it breaks things around here. -- Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] §õªø· ~/.signature ¤¤¤åbig5 compliant. http://devel.mandrakesoft.com/~snailtalk ftp://devel.mandrakesoft.com/pub/people/snailtalk
Re: [Cooker] ftp.sunet.se - what's wrong?
Chris, Checking sunet.se now. (12:45 Moscow time, Sep.28, 16:45 on my Linux clock, for some reson :-) Launch is very close... KDE2 - far away... no kdelibs, base, etc. on sunet.se onle kdegames-1.94... Most files are marked Sep.22 latest... Vadim On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Christopher Molnar wrote: | On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Vadim Plessky wrote: | I checked this night ftp.sunet.se, and found that | 1) KDE2 files (kdebase, support, etc.) are not presented ftp.sunet.se | QT 2.2 looks like disappeared as well. | 2) some KDE2-i18n files which are available, and KDEgames-1.94-xx are | dated by September 22 | | And, I was not able to get into RPMFIND, mirror which I used before | ftp.sunet.se. | | Can somebody let us know what is happening? | | Probably the updates did not make it through. Here is what should be | availably after today's uploads (note: it takes a while for the mirrors to | work) (2nd note: the dates and times will be different these are valid in | my timezone (EDT)): | | total 58352 | -rw-r--r--1 root root 1146142 Sep 27 12:00 | kdeaddutils-1.94-8mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root29202 Sep 27 12:00 | kdeaddutils-devel-1.94-8mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 1039260 Sep 27 11:21 | kdeadmin-1.94-9mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 11017881 Sep 27 12:49 | kdebase-1.94-20mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root37634 Sep 27 12:49 | kdebase-devel-1.94-20mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 4171489 Sep 27 12:34 | kdegames-1.94-7mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 1364849 Sep 27 12:35 | kdegraphics-1.94-8mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root20462 Sep 27 12:35 | kdegraphics-devel-1.94-8mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 4777137 Sep 27 11:20 | kdelibs-1.94-10mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 2092818 Sep 27 11:20 | kdelibs-devel-1.94-10mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 581898 Sep 27 11:20 | kdelibs-sound-1.94-10mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 148058 Sep 27 11:20 | kdelibs-sound-devel-1.94-10mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 2708998 Sep 27 12:46 | kdemultimedia-1.94-9mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root34100 Sep 27 12:46 | kdemultimedia-devel-1.94-9mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 2773271 Sep 27 13:02 | kdenetwork-1.94-9mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 6663 Sep 27 13:02 | kdenetwork-devel-1.94-9mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 961746 Sep 27 13:13 | kdepim-1.94-7mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 528087 Sep 27 11:21 | kdesdk-1.94-7mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 159899 Sep 27 11:17 | kdesupport-1.94-14mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root67297 Sep 27 11:17 | kdesupport-devel-1.94-14mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 852213 Sep 27 11:21 | kdetoys-1.94-8mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 2191508 Sep 27 13:25 | kdeutils-1.94-8mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root68030 Sep 27 11:21 | kdoc-1.94-5mdk.noarch.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 1188670 Sep 27 11:34 | klyx-1.94-7mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 6003010 Sep 27 12:30 | koffice-1.94-7mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root47620 Sep 27 12:30 | koffice-devel-1.94-7mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 261448 Sep 27 11:54 | kups-0.8-19mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 4985 Sep 27 11:54 | kups-devel-0.8-19mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 2040197 Sep 27 11:29 | kvirc-2.0.0-1.94.7mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 2912161 Sep 27 11:17 | qt2-2.2-4mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 8820408 Sep 27 11:18 | qt2-devel-2.2-4mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 997737 Sep 27 11:18 | qt2-doc-2.2-4mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 121405 Sep 27 11:54 | qtcups-1.0-11mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 6501 Sep 27 11:54 | qtcups-devel-1.0-11mdk.i586.rpm | -rw-r--r--1 root root 340377 Sep 27 11:22 | quanta-1.94-4mdk.i586.rpm -- Vadim Plessky
Re: [Cooker] Curious Issue with Beta and win98 (maybe)
Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allen Bolderoff wrote: The problem is that not even a win98 boot disk will work. win 98 just does not boot at all. Had this problem too when I upgraded to LM7.0 which wrote lilo into /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda... (Yes, I reported it back then...) and if that is really the pb, tell me!!
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Also sprach Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When confronted with unallowed access, as determined by tcpwrapper, xinetd segfault and freeze the terminal. Here's an extract from can you give me a exact state of the bugs i can reproduce ? Try : hosts.deny: ALL:ALL hosts.allow: de nada then telnet localhost -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also sprach Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When confronted with unallowed access, as determined by tcpwrapper, xinetd segfault and freeze the terminal. Here's an extract from can you give me a exact state of the bugs i can reproduce ? Try : hosts.deny: ALL:ALL hosts.allow: de nada then telnet localhost what version of xinetd ? i have no segfaults here... -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Also sprach Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also sprach Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When confronted with unallowed access, as determined by tcpwrapper, xinetd segfault and freeze the terminal. Here's an extract from can you give me a exact state of the bugs i can reproduce ? Try : hosts.deny: ALL:ALL hosts.allow: de nada then telnet localhost what version of xinetd ? i have no segfaults here... [guillaume@agathe db]$ rpm -q xinetd xinetd-2.1.8.9pre10-2mdk I tried again, with exact configuration given, and it's reproductible. What else can i check ? -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [guillaume@agathe db]$ rpm -q xinetd xinetd-2.1.8.9pre10-2mdk I tried again, with exact configuration given, and it's reproductible. What else can i check ? i do not know since it's working on a prinstrine cooker install. i see only the libwrap file who can do that from the tcp_wrappers file. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Also sprach Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [guillaume@agathe db]$ rpm -q xinetd xinetd-2.1.8.9pre10-2mdk I tried again, with exact configuration given, and it's reproductible. What else can i check ? i do not know since it's working on a prinstrine cooker install. i see only the libwrap file who can do that from the tcp_wrappers file. [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ rpm -q tcp_wrappers tcp_wrappers-7.6-16mdk I just tried with inet : result for client is the same, but the terminal is only frozen for a 2-3 s, then i have closed connection. And i got no segfault in logs. -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ rpm -q tcp_wrappers tcp_wrappers-7.6-16mdk I just tried with inet : result for client is the same, but the terminal is only frozen for a 2-3 s, then i have closed connection. And i got no segfault in logs. is it a fresh cooker install ? i really can't reproduce this.. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] Mesa-devel?
John Grange [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Urm not acording to uprmi , it says it requires mesa-devel not Xfree86-devel! Did you have update your RPMS repository, if yes you have to update your urpmi database (you can check by the version number of Mesa-common-devel it try to install and what you get in the repository). François.
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Also sprach Chmouel Boudjnah : Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ rpm -q tcp_wrappers tcp_wrappers-7.6-16mdk I just tried with inet : result for client is the same, but the terminal is only frozen for a 2-3 s, then i have closed connection. And i got no segfault in logs. is it a fresh cooker install ? i really can't reproduce this.. Oh no... It's a 7.1 install, with daily cooker upgrade since 7.1 release. Don't worry too much, anyway. I can live with unallowed hosts getting frozen :-) -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
Re: [Cooker] fetchmail rpms
Michael Reinsch a écrit : Hi! fetchmail-daemon-5.5.2-1mdk: [mr@notit20 mr]$ /etc/init.d/fetchmail status smbd is stopped nmbd is stopped So you're also doing copy and modify ;-)) And why is /etc/fetchmailrc -rwx--x--- ? It should be -rw---. fixed! give a try to the new package uploaded! Greets, Michael -- Daouda LO MandrakeSoft SA
Re: [Cooker] Yamaha Sound-chip
William H Bouterse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harddrake detects: Model: YMF-740C [DS -1L Audio Controller] Kernel Module: snd-card-ymfpci Bus Type:PCI Config-tool brings up 'modprobe:Can't locate module sound-slot-0' This is an embedded chip I cannot get it working? I realized it is probably me? Can someone shed the light on this? Try to issue as root: # modprobe snd-card-ymfpci If it works add this line to your /etc/modules.conf alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-ymfpci If it doesn't work try to see in your BIOS if anything is blocking (e.g. unselect option PNP OS INSTALLED). -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] xinetd segfault
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh no... It's a 7.1 install, with daily cooker upgrade since 7.1 release. Don't worry too much, anyway. I can live with unallowed hosts getting frozen :-) hope, someone else can reproduce this problem ? -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] Curious Issue with Beta and win98 (maybe)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The problem is that not even a win98 boot disk will work. win 98 just does not boot at all. I have found the reason this happens on my system. I have to disconnect power from secondary IDE channel drives (sec master and slave) in order for win98 to boot. I don't know why - maybe the IDE channel is screwy, altho with Linux it works fine. -- +++ Allen Bolderoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++
[Cooker] caitoo segfaults upon starting
-- +++ Allen Bolderoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++
[Cooker] KDE2 fonts screwed in beta3 with XFree 4, and ATI RAGE
Fwd: Re: Netscape/Mozilla [Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback]
To: Matthew Brealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Matthew Brealey wrote:
| You wrote:
| First, there is no support for Absolute Positioning.
|
| Not true. It does support absolute positioning, albeit badly.
Try this:
HTML
HEADTITLE Positioning test /TITLE/HEAD
STYLE
P { font-family:"Arial, sans-serif"; font-size:10pt}
P.bluetext { font-weight:bold; color:darkblue; font-size:11pt}
P.reverse { font-weight:bold; color:white; font-size:10pt}
H2 { font-family:"Arial, sans-serif"; font-size:18pt;
font-weight:bold; color:darkblue}
/STYLE
BODY
DIV STYLE="position:absolute; top:0; left:400; width:150; height:300;
background:darkblue"
IMG SRC="myimage.gif" STYLE="position:absolute; top:20; left:25"
CENTER
P CLASS=reverse STYLE="margin-top:30"Sponsored byBRBig Brother/P
/CENTER
/DIV
DIV STYLE="position:absolute; top:245; width:400; left=:0"
CENTER
H2 STYLE="color=darkred; line-height:200%" My wonderful text/H2
IMG SRC="img2.gif" STYLE="position:absolute; top:0; left:50;
z-index:-1"
/CENTER
/DIV
/BODY
/HTML
Rendered correctly in Explorer.
Mozilla also can, Netscape - can't.
| Mozilla has partial support,
|
| Actually the best and most complete support of any browser on any
| platform.
Microsoft, you mean?
| Unfortunately, Mozilla has even CSS1 issues. Just try my page
| http://kde2.newmail.ru - menu on left side
|
| is
|
| [snip]
|
| rendered
| correctly both in
| Netscape and Mozilla.
|
| You use _ as an IDENT character (i.e. your class name contains a _), which
| is not permitted. The _required_ behaviour in response to this (that is the
| error recovery behaviour) is to ignore the associated ruleset[s]. (see
| http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/grammar.html for tokenizer, and
| http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2 section 5 (can\'t remember the URL) for error
| recovery rules)
And?
Microsoft and Konqueror render correctly.
Again speaking about Netscape? Well, IMHO, with Netscape's marketshare
dropping from 80% to current 15%, there is no reason to worry about Netscape.
Konqueror should take care about Linux/FreeBSD users, and that's all the
story.
| (and looks ok in Konqueror, while some
| font size is
| still wrong)
|
| You mix points and pixels: bad. Read
| http://richinstyle.com/masterclass/lengths.html
|
| Vincent, does it make sense to report bugs for Netscape?
|
| If you use Netscape it does, because the result of reporting bugs to
| Netscape is a better browser for you.
No, I don't. Thanks. (well, I keep it on computer for testing purposes, both
Win98 and linux versions)
| mozilla.org, it is not
| GPL\'ed.
|
| http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/mozilla-relicense-faq.html explains otherwise.
|
| And now Netscape engineers approve patches. I can\'t
| say that this is bad.
|
| This is true. Although Open Source, Mozilla is strictly controlled by
| Netscape\'s financial interests. See for example
| http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22994.
Thanks for URL. I will check. :-)
| It\'s sole purpose is to make Netscape money. It would not exist
| otherwise.
At least one point where we agreed.
| However, this is hardly a revelation.
--
Vadim Plessky
---
--
Vadim Plessky
Re: [Cooker] USB broken on current cooker.
I'm sorry. I quoted from the wrong message. My USB keyboard and mouse do not work during the installer. I can get one or the other to work depending on where in the hub i plug the device in. I chose to let the mouse work and get the installer working using a PS/2 keyboard. After install was over the USB keyboard still did not work until i put keyboard=yes in /etc/sysconfig/usb. The keyboard and mouse both work completely in redhat. I will try the command below after taking keyboard=yes out of /etc/sysconfig/usb. - Original Message - From: "Chmouel Boudjnah" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] USB broken on current cooker. "David Foresman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, I finally got an Install to work using yesturdays cooker update and a PS/2 keyboard for the keyboard parts. This is definatly and installer problem. After Install, if I put KEYBOARD=yes in /etc/sysconfig/usb, the usb keyboard works fine. Like I've said before. this worked completely in cooker right before the 7.2b1 release but has been broken since. This should be autodetected by the script, does : grep -qE "^I.*Cls=03.*Prot=01" /proc/bus/usb/devices echo bingo say you bingo ? -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] ftp.sunet.se - what's wrong?
Checking sunet.se now. (12:45 Moscow time, Sep.28, 16:45 on my Linux clock, for some reson :-) Launch is very close... KDE2 - far away... no kdelibs, base, etc. on sunet.se onle kdegames-1.94... Most files are marked Sep.22 latest... What's the use of a mirror if the reflection it provides is distorted? Maybe it's time to dig through the (rather large) list of mirrors and weed out the ones that are not "up to standard". I use the the sunsite.uio.no mirror, although this week it's been unreachable. I find that other mirrors often have issues: - file permisions that change (often the exec bit is stripped); - old; - incomplete. For distributing the stable distribution I agree that a large list of mirrors is needed. The content on these mirrors doesn't change that much (security updates) and only a large event takes a lot of BW (release of a new product). Maybe it's possible to put up some quality criteria to which a mirror must conform if it wants to carry the cooker distro? A larger list of primary mirrors might also help. Stefan
Re: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget?
Alexander Skwar wrote: Currently I'm using fmirror to mirror Cooker for myself. How do I use reget (resuming downloads where they stopped) with fmirror? Or, if fmirror does not support this, what other mirror tool should I use which supports this feature? I suggest you look into using rsync. -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
Re: [Cooker] sawfish doesn't start
On Thu Sep 28, 2000 at 10:27:06AM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: I have sawfish-0.30.3-14mdk installed. When I try to start sawfish from a gnome-terminal under gnome I get this error message: Xlib: extension "XINERAMA" missing on display ":0.0". error-- (bytecode-error "File needs recompiling for current virtual machine" "/usr/share/sawfish/0.30.3/lisp/sawmill.jlc") I don't use xinerama, I have latest XFree86 from cooker (XFree86-4.0.1-20mdk). Librep has been upgraded on cooker but not yet rep-gtk and sawfish, so for the moment, cooker version of Sawfish is broken.. I suggest you re-install librep from ulysses version (0.12-4mdk) Yes, exactly. Due to the freeze for the beta I was unable to build the new rep-gtk and new sawfish for cooker. My apologies. Please use the beta version. I'll get this corrected ASAP. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net // Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org // MandrakeSoft, Inc. www.linux-mandrake.com 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux uptime: 1 day 1 hour 27 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] esound alsa
On Wed Sep 27, 2000 at 03:44:52PM -0400, Eugenio Diaz wrote: Was esound compiled again with alsa? It does not work anylonger with gnome or xmms ... Which version of esound? It should work fine... I run it here under gnome with xmms (right now in fact), and it works great. I'm running 0.2.19-6mdk and have no problems. Do you have xmms set to use the esd output plugin? What does esd say if you start it manually? You may have permission problems on /dev/dsp (I did with dev-3.0.6-2mdk). You may have to (as root) chmod g+rw /dev/dsp in order to let regular users use it (problem with dev, not esound). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net // Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org // MandrakeSoft, Inc. www.linux-mandrake.com 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux uptime: 1 day 1 hour 31 minutes.
[Cooker] Cooker installation and bugs report
Hi all, This my report after a fresh install in pcmcia+nfs mode of cooker (package of 27/09) and update (package of 28/9) on an HP 4150 laptop. First impressions - GREAT, I'm very glad to see how the linux-mandrake distro has been improved : wheel mouse detect and configured, pcmcia network start correctly, framebuffer are automatically installed, modem setting ... and so on. The install : --- 1/ During the install, at he network modem setting, i switch to console with Alt-F[1-5], because i doesn't known where the kernel find my modem (ttyS" or ttyS4), and when i go back to the installer by Alt-F7, the install crash with a message: install exited abnormally reboot... I need to boot again go to the rescue mode to finish install with some difficulties : i need to mount by hand my partition and some step are bypassed. The bugs: 2/ Sometimes XFree 4.01 have a fading problem : console are fader and the kdm screen have loose some color. I need to swith between X and the console to get the right color. This bug reproduce after logout kde or gnome session because X restart. My chipset is a neomagic. 3/ Sawfish crash with the Xinerama error for me too 4/ LinuxConf doesn't start from DrakConf. Process are here, but no window comes. It start normally from an xterm, but crash if i select "networking" then on the new window if i select another setting. The error is : "Error message from remadmin : X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)" Then i need to type CTRL-C to stop linuxconf. 5/ Configure screensaver under Kcontrol crash with the signall 11 error. KDE bug ? 6/ I have some pb to configure my soundcard. Harddrake detect it has an magic media 256 av (this is true). Hardrake try to install the nm256 module, but it failed with the traditionnal ressource or device busy. Sndconfig detect it too and say that it doesn't support it. Because this card work fine in WSS or SB emulation, i'm unable to configure it with hardrake or sndconfig in this mode. I need to grab an old sndconfig say 0.35 to configure it has an WSS card. 7/ My laptop have a removable drive bay to insert floppy or cd-rom. When my laptop is docked, the floppy work fine on the parallele port but failed when i put it into the bay. I can't access it and the command mount never stop and i'm unabble to kill it. If the laptop is undocked, the floppy work fine in the drive bay. 8/ I have sound working expected with kde. It seems that arts, the kde audio server, grab /dev/dsp and doesn't work. Never kde native sound work, sow or over complain that /dev/dsp is busy. I need to kill arts to play with the sound. Esd work fine, gnome too. 9/ Kudzu is not compatible with Aurora. When i remove my cdrom, kudzu detect it, but it can't open a screen and output characters to aurora and failed after the timeout. 10/ file auto.master reference a file named /etc/auto.net that doesn't exist. 11/ My laptop doesn't power down when i shutdown. Need '-p' option for the halt command in the kdm sessions.. 12/ Why KDE need lestiff ??? I hope this help you to improve this great beta release. Olivier -- FTRD/DAC/CPN Technopole Anticipa | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2, Avenue Pierre Marzin | Phone: +(33) 2 96 05 28 80 F-22307 LANNION | Fax:+(33) 2 96 05 18 52
RE: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget?
2 questions: Does rsync work with any ftp server, or do most mirrors have rsyncd available? I have a copy of beta2 iso (takes me a day to download on isdn). Can I make a copy of the CD onto the hard drive and rsync that directory? Example? Thanks, I am new to rsync. --- Edward J. Cooley - President Strategic Concepts, Inc. 501-271-7400 Fax: 271-7401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.strategy5.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Antony Suter Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget? Alexander Skwar wrote: Currently I'm using fmirror to mirror Cooker for myself. How do I use reget (resuming downloads where they stopped) with fmirror? Or, if fmirror does not support this, what other mirror tool should I use which supports this feature? I suggest you look into using rsync. -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
Re: [Cooker] Some bug reports for Beta 3
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Alexandre Dussart wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Sound is not working. The card (AWE32) is found, but when testing it reports errors (OPL/3 is busy or so). Also I do not hear anything, even if I don't get any errors. Alex, can you investigate? Hum seems AWE32 doesn't handle OPL3 midi chipset... :-/ ok I'll remove it from configuration... Greets, Alex. I have an AWE64 and if I install alsa, kmid doesn't play midi. When I select Options | Configure Midi devices, there is only one option (not an option at all for me) : External Midi Port. When I get rid of alsa, I see these options: Sound Blaster 16 - External Midi Port AWE Midi Emu - External Midi Port AWE32-0.4.3 (RAM512k) I choose the third option and it works perfectly. So I am worried about the increasing dependence on alsa - I don't mind alsa if it works, but despite Guillaume Cottenceau's claim in a previous reply to my posting that alsa fully supports AWE64, I know that it doesn't. -- -- Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
[Cooker] [RPM] pybliographer-1.0.4-2mdk
Yet another contribution to useless wasting CD space... --- Name: pybliographerRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.0.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: mar 26 sep 2000 11:07:40 RET Install date: (not installed) Build Host: agathe Group : OfficeSource RPM: (none) Size: 473497 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.gnome.org:65348/pybliographer Summary : A framework for working with bibliographic databases. Description : Pybliographer is a tool for managing bibliographic databases. It currently supports the following formats: - BibTeX (quite complete) - Medline (read-only) - Ovid files (from ovid.com) - Refer and EndNote (read only) - SGML DocBook (write only) Pybliographer can be used for searching, editing, reformatting, etc. In fact, it's a simple framework that provides easy to use python classes and functions, and therefore can be extended to any usage (generating HTML pages according to bibliographic searches, etc). In addition to the scripting environment, a graphical GNOME interface is available. It provides powerful editing capabilities, in addition to a nice hierarchical search mechanism. --- mar sep 26 2000 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.0.4-2mdk - added recode require --
Re: [Cooker] Some bug reports for Beta 3
Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] So I am worried about the increasing dependence on alsa - I don't mind alsa if it works, but despite Guillaume Cottenceau's claim in a previous reply to my posting that alsa fully supports AWE64, I know that it doesn't. I didn't claimed that. I said that distrib should flawlessly support AWE64. We have problems with certain configs but Alex doesn't know why this is happenning.. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] kshinsen crashes
I updated kde* (to yesterdays rpm) and since then when i start kshinsen it crashes. Are there any ftp-servers out there who have the latest rpms and are not under DoS-7.0
Re: Antwort: Re: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget?
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 09:04:34AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sunsite.uio.no supports rsync? Nice to know! Why is this not listed on the Cooker web page? Because those of us who have been using it reliably didn't want you to know about it and slow down our download speeds evil grin. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org "Heuristics are bug ridden by definition. If they didn't have bugs, then they'd be algorithms."
[Cooker] regression in kernel-2.2.17-15 for TV cards ?
TV worked with -13mdk kernel, but with the latest 2.2.17-15mdk, when inserting bttv, I get : # modprobe bttv /lib/modules/2.2.17-15mdk/misc/emu10k1.o: init_module: Périphérique ou ressource occupé Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters /lib/modules/2.2.17-15mdk/misc/emu10k1.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17-15mdk/misc/emu10k1.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17-15mdk/misc/emu10k1.o: insmod bttv failed Note: Sound works, and the loading of other relevant modules also : see lsmod output : # lsmod Module Size Used by tuner 2960 0 (autoclean) (unused) msp340012480 0 (autoclean) (unused) i2c-core 11968 0 (autoclean) [tuner msp3400] [.]
Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 12:05:37PM -0400, Jean-Marc Valin wrote: Well, I use 4.7 and it works fine for me (4.72 is OK too, AFAIK)... What's so new in 4.75, except new bugs? I run helix gnome and it works much better than Actually 4.75 is a lot more stable for me than any other 4.7 version. Okay, I still turn of Java, and that not (only) for security reasons Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
RE: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
I have experienced all of the same problems I also have an SBLIVE! And am frustrated with GMIX I am very shockednormally, by the third BETA, Mandrake releases tend to be very functional, and seem ready to release. This is the first once since 7.0 that I would recommend holding off for a most extensive test! Brendan Kwolek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jean-Marc Valin Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS Well, I use 4.7 and it works fine for me (4.72 is OK too, AFAIK)... What's so new in 4.75, except new bugs? I run helix gnome and it works much better than the versions I've seen with both 7.1 and 7.2b3. What sort of problems have you encountered with our version of Gnome ? The most annoying problems I had was with my wheel mouse (note that it is correctly detected and the wheel works in XFree). It seems like half of the gnome(or gtk) widgets (scroll windows) that used to be "wheel-aware" don't work anymore with the wheel (I worked both in mdk 7.0 and helix gnome). Also, in gnome-terminal, instead of scrolling the terminal, the wheel has the same effect as the up/down terminal keys, which is to bring up previous command lines. To summerize, I would say that the wheel support in gnome is about half of what it was in mandrake 7.0. Another problem I had was that gmix doesn't start because it doesn't find the mixer interface (I have an SB Live!)... although just all the other mixers (like kmix) manage to find it. I also had a problem with the sawfish configuration applet, but was told it was fixed. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Valin Universite de Sherbrooke - Genie Electrique [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
havin' that exact problem with my SB Live too, if yah get the answer mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (unless it's posted on this list) XFree 4.0.1 you have to add "ZAxisMapping 4 5" in the pointer section or mouse section for your mouse-wheel to work I think, but it seems to be fine with my Logitech MouseMan+ (PS/2) Adam - Original Message - From: "Jean-Marc Valin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS Well, I use 4.7 and it works fine for me (4.72 is OK too, AFAIK)... What's so new in 4.75, except new bugs? I run helix gnome and it works much better than the versions I've seen with both 7.1 and 7.2b3. What sort of problems have you encountered with our version of Gnome ? The most annoying problems I had was with my wheel mouse (note that it is correctly detected and the wheel works in XFree). It seems like half of the gnome(or gtk) widgets (scroll windows) that used to be "wheel-aware" don't work anymore with the wheel (I worked both in mdk 7.0 and helix gnome). Also, in gnome-terminal, instead of scrolling the terminal, the wheel has the same effect as the up/down terminal keys, which is to bring up previous command lines. To summerize, I would say that the wheel support in gnome is about half of what it was in mandrake 7.0. Another problem I had was that gmix doesn't start because it doesn't find the mixer interface (I have an SB Live!)... although just all the other mixers (like kmix) manage to find it. I also had a problem with the sawfish configuration applet, but was told it was fixed. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Valin Universite de Sherbrooke - Genie Electrique [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Beta 3 Early Experiences
Hope these have not been mentioned as I have no visibility of them since I only just joined cooker and have a limited number of messages. Cannot run mousedrake from drakconf or from the console, error said: Please wait while probing serial ports... Undefined subroutine mouse::names called at /usr/sbin/mousedrake line 25. When resizing desktop panel icons to medium, the Mandrake Documentation icon remains small. Kcontrol would not operate from bottom panel but it would run from the console. Edited the icons preferences and removed the "%c" and it worked. Clicking on Kmail in the Networking toolbar opened kmail composer whereas I thought it would open the mail reader. In The KDE control center there is a section under look-and-feel for screen savers but there are none listed in the window on the RH panel. But there is a list of screensavers that can be configured from the toolbar using Configuration-KDE Screensavers. Are these the same and should they appear in the KDE control center panel? In desktop 1 I opened Kpackage. There was disk activity and then I switched over to desktop 2. The kpackage opened on desktop 2 whereas I thought it should have been desktop 1 where I initially opened the program. Is this normal practice ie. it attaches to the desktop opened at the time the window appears rather than the desktop that it was selected from? Nev Cobb
Re: [Cooker] Usb Tv and Radio devices
If they are can someone send me a list of ones that work well, as i would like to buy one and my local shop are just stupid. Also if USB Tv and radio stuff don't work, then what are really good cards. I've got about £200 (think that is about $300 but i don't know) - The current lowend Hauppauge bttv card can be had for $50. I don't really see how a USB device could really compete with that. as far as tv cards (pci) the Hauppauge card i have is detected by BTTV quite nicely (you could get the dolby deluxe version for about $200.00 in US) That version was ~$140 over 2 years ago. It's probably cheaper now. check out their website and give them a ring. I've been running a WinTV 401 for ~ 2 years BTW.
Re: [Cooker] wp office 2000
I have fonttastic running and wp9 says its not... im running the latest cooker version as of today. please assist dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux - Cause I dont do windows or ovens! [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Registered System: 83659
Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
havin' that exact problem with my SB Live too, if yah get the answer mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (unless it's posted on this list) I have stopped using gmix and I use a special matrix mixer that handles a lot more features from the Live! digital mixer (like the digital IO, front/rear, Live! Drive, ...). The mixer I use is at: http://www.droop.org/oli/matrixmix.tgz I think it would be good to include it in 7.2... for all those with a SB Live! XFree 4.0.1 you have to add "ZAxisMapping 4 5" in the pointer section or mouse section for your mouse-wheel to work I think, but it seems to be fine with my Logitech MouseMan+ (PS/2) I have this line... and my wheel actually works in some apps. The problem is that for half the gnome apps/widgets, it doesn't. It not a mouse issue, but a gnome/gtk one. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Valin Universite de Sherbrooke - Genie Electrique [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Curious Issue with Beta and win98 (maybe)
Pixel wrote: Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allen Bolderoff wrote: The problem is that not even a win98 boot disk will work. win 98 just does not boot at all. Had this problem too when I upgraded to LM7.0 which wrote lilo into /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda... (Yes, I reported it back then...) and if that is really the pb, tell me!! Thanks for noticing... [leaving out comments on the lack of a bug reporting system] my particular problem occured when I changed the default DOS partition name to "W98" and lilo may have used that as the trigger for writing to hda1 instead of hda... Just speculation now. At any rate, I get quite passionate about install/upgrade issues; see below for some of my rants on this issue... I will trash a distro based on the install, without ever getting to see what it can do. My feeling is that the attention paid to install/upgrade issues is proportional to the attention paid to small, but usually important (to the customer), details throughout. Retired and wanting to waste the least amount of time in my quest to help family and friends transition to Linux, Pierre Posted on expert list Sept 14th: [At the time, I did not know where the boot.* files really came from...] This raises a question... (and why I'm inputting at the top :) Has anyone else clobbered their boot blocks and used one of the /boot/boot.* files to recover it...? The reason I ask is that while I haven't booted the MacroShaft drive, I run some non-M$ W9x programs via wine. One day, I was installing LM7.0 which on its own decided to write lilo onto hda1 instead of hda (reported it and trashed LM7.0 CD as a result). Since there was nothing to lose in trying to recover the boot block, I tried rewriting (dd) the ~438 bytes that were obviously clobbered to no avail. Then, I stumbled upon the /boot/boot.* files and upon closer examination decided that one of them was the image of what my M$ drive needed. dd'ed it into hda1 and voila! I could access the partition again... Now, these boot.* files are inconsistent. Depending on the distro, if memory serves, some of these are lilo; but other than being misnamed (you have to look inside the files), some of these are copies of what you usually see on W9x, NT, OS/2, etc. Not all distros have all files. If someone has the knowledge of all these boot files, it might be helpful to make use of these (properly named with correct content) to create a recovery step for those poor newbie-souls-to-come who are sure to screw this up. Being able to restore a clobbered other-OS boot block would get Linux some kudos in the other camps... Just a thought, Pierre Posted to TriangleLUG (Raleigh, NC) list Jun 29th: Maybe I should clear up my phylosophy... and NO, I'm not trying to start a religious war (if anyone has time for one, I have plenty of ideas for code that needs writing... :^) [...], this is not directed at you or anyone in particular; it's just that I think we're overdue for these comments if Linux is about to explode in numbers of new users... When it comes to Linux in general, we all can pretty much handle anything. On the other hand, when *installing* Linux, _I_ very deliberately and very carefully **BECOME "Joe Newbie"** (who won't know how to _get_ to a virtual console, let alone what that *is*). ** Why? soapbox Because I've been advocating Linux to colleagues, friends and family for a long time... These people have contacted me many times for support when they have Windows, or Appl-X problems and are getting closer to wanting to try this Linux thing I praise so much. My sister for example can do much of what she needs to on Windows; but she's been getting really ticked with M$ support lately. So I know the time is near when she'll what to make the switch. Problem: she's wheelchair bound with MS -- the disease (oops... the physical condition :^), and lives in Canada. The remote support will be difficult enough... The LAST thing I need is to recommend a distro, only to lose credibility when she runs into *any* type of stupid install error... And that goes for anyone wanting to try Linux for the first time. The "first impression"... The MOST important part of the first Linux experience is not that it doesn't crash, or that lots of stuff is free, or... Rather, it is CRUCIAL that the install be the smoothest experience of one's computer life. So... how bad is the situation...? I have in the past two months tried most distributions. All of which have stupid install quirks, no two alike. A newbie won't know or care that X, KDE, Netscape, etc are not really Linux. To that person, the CD reads "Mandrake Linux", "RedHat Linux", "Caldera OpenLinux", "TurboLinux", "StormLinux", etc... see the "pattern"...? IMNSHO, for the potential new users I've been priming, Mandrake keeps percolating to the top of the pile (with one
Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 08:32:19PM -0400, Jean-Marc Valin wrote: I have absolutely no problems with Netscape 4.75. None. You say it's the most unstable version yet you do not say what makes it unstable? Simple receipe (works about 50% of the times): Which I never noted, and which doesn't work for me. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: Antwort: Re: [Cooker] Mirroring tool with reget?
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 01:37:54PM -0700, Ben Reser wrote: Because those of us who have been using it reliably didn't want you to know about it and slow down our download speeds evil grin. Okay, that's a very fine reason. But why do you point out that uio.no has rsync in public, and not in a private mail? *G* Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
I have absolutely no problems with Netscape 4.75. None. You say it's the most unstable version yet you do not say what makes it unstable? Simple receipe (works about 50% of the times): Which I never noted, and which doesn't work for me. Then maybe it's a problem with the french version, maybe 4.75 doesn't like my Athlon CPU, or maybe it's the color of my walls... but the fact remains, I got at least 3 or 4 crashes (on 6-7 attempts) doing that in the 2 hours I ran mdk 7.2b3. It is bad enough that I would rather use Mozilla than 4.75, and I'm not even joking. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Valin Universite de Sherbrooke - Genie Electrique [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Television Cards
I have a cdrom version Mandrake 7.1 with kernel 2.2.15-4mdk "out of the box" installation everything works great, except when I try installing and using any capture programs. I have tried 3 of the latest versions of Xawtv, and 2 of the latest Kwintv versions. I have tried the source, configure, make, install way and the RPM way. None has ever gotten past error messages when I try to run them. Even though I have the Haupage Wintv pci card with the B878 chip. The latest error message on trying to start it up was a vidmem conflict between the Xwindow DGA base address and the card. The Win98 drive in my same machine (E-machine brand with a celeron 366 with 64MB ram) runs the Windows version perfectly. The fact that all the mini HOWTOs and README files say it should run fine is just not true. If anyone has a version that will run on this Mandrake's most current version, please let me know where I can download it. Many thanks, Rick Mercer. - Original Message - From: Robert L Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Television Cards as to cards supported by Mandrake its more cards supported by the KERNEL anything using the BrookTree TeleVision chipset should be fine btw BTTV is - Hauppauge uses that chipset and "supports" linux so you should be able to just install xawtv or Kwintv or ... and issue modprobe bttv.o modprobe tuner.o - if you get a 2.4.0test6 kernel add modprobe tvmixer.o and you should be set Robert L Martin
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] kwintv-0.7.99-1mdk
I have a cdrom version Mandrake 7.1 with kernel 2.2.15-4mdk "out of the box" installation everything works great, except when I try installing and using any capture programs. I have tried 3 of the latest versions of Xawtv, and 2 of the latest Kwintv versions. I have tried the source, configure, make, install way and the RPM way. None has ever gotten past error messages when I try to run them. Even though I have the Haupage Wintv pci card with the B878 chip. The latest error message on trying to start it up was a vidmem conflict between the Xwindow DGA base address and the card. The Win98 drive in my same machine (E-machine brand with a celeron 366 with 64MB ram) runs the Windows version perfectly. The fact that all the mini HOWTOs and README files say it should run fine is just not true. If anyone has a version that will run on this Mandrake's most current stable version, please let me know where I can download it. Many thanks, Rick Mercer. - Original Message - From: Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] kwintv-0.7.99-1mdk Michael Stucki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name: kwintv Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.7.99Vendor: MandrakeSoft 0.7.99 was just a short step to get back from 8 months of no changes. Since 1 or 2 weeks, there is already 0.8.0 out. http://kwintv.sourceforge.net BTW: Why did you remove xawtv from Mandrake? In Beta 7.2, it's not included. Please put either kwintv or xawtv in it. This makes it much more "complete". both are in mainstream distro, they're not anymore in contrib.
Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
Well, I use 4.7 and it works fine for me (4.72 is OK too, AFAIK)... What's so new in 4.75, except new bugs? I run helix gnome and it works much better than the versions I've seen with both 7.1 and 7.2b3. What sort of problems have you encountered with our version of Gnome ? The most annoying problems I had was with my wheel mouse (note that it is correctly detected and the wheel works in XFree). It seems like half of the gnome(or gtk) widgets (scroll windows) that used to be "wheel-aware" don't work anymore with the wheel (I worked both in mdk 7.0 and helix gnome). Also, in gnome-terminal, instead of scrolling the terminal, the wheel has the same effect as the up/down terminal keys, which is to bring up previous command lines. To summerize, I would say that the wheel support in gnome is about half of what it was in mandrake 7.0. Another problem I had was that gmix doesn't start because it doesn't find the mixer interface (I have an SB Live!)... although just all the other mixers (like kmix) manage to find it. I also had a problem with the sawfish configuration applet, but was told it was fixed. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Valin Universite de Sherbrooke - Genie Electrique [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] KDE is updated and uploaded
Hi gang, The KDE panel has the option of having a detached "taskbar" at the top of the screen. Ever since i've been using the KDE 2.0 beta release this option has stopped working (i.e. the taskbar stays embedded inside the main "panel" bar no matter what i ask it to do in the kcontrol program). Is this a KDE bug known by all and it is not supposed to work, or is it something else and it should be working, by there is a settting wrong somewhere in my setup? BTW, the "kcontrol" crashes when i try to control the screensavers with it. i guess this is another KDE bug? Some enlightenment (!) would be appreciated... Real
Re: [Cooker] KDE is updated and uploaded
I get exactly the same behaviour here: The taskbar won't move, and screensavers crash the config. I also get a crash when I exit KDE, and the whole system is abysmally slow (is it compiled with -g and no -O?) -- I have also not yet found a legacy app that will work, even when recompiled with the kde1-compat libs. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 T(C)Inc Business Innovations through Open Source http://www.teledyn.com M:I-3 - Documenting the Linux kernel: http://kernelbook.sourceforge.net
Re: Sv: [Cooker] Problems with nautilus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Zeljko Vukman") writes:
Try this (it worked on Mandrake 7.1):
Install Helix-Gnome Mandrake packages from Helix_Gnome site.
Install Mozilla.
Download preview-relase of Nautilus from Helix-Gnome site, and unpack it.
Install all *rpms form preview-relase of Nautilus except libghtml package.
Run: run-nautilus.
Since it has been released it never crushed on my computer.
If you want complete list of packages I used, mail me.
Regards,
Ok, I'll try to have a deeper look today.. Eazel download site was
unreachable yesterday :((
--
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] sawfish doesn't start
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sami Nieminen) writes: Hi! I upgraded my cooker installation to the newest available and sawfish doesn't start anymore with gnome. I am left without a window manager ): I have sawfish-0.30.3-14mdk installed. When I try to start sawfish from a gnome-terminal under gnome I get this error message: Xlib: extension "XINERAMA" missing on display ":0.0". error-- (bytecode-error "File needs recompiling for current virtual machine" "/usr/share/sawfish/0.30.3/lisp/sawmill.jlc") I don't use xinerama, I have latest XFree86 from cooker (XFree86-4.0.1-20mdk). Librep has been upgraded on cooker but not yet rep-gtk and sawfish, so for the moment, cooker version of Sawfish is broken.. I suggest you re-install librep from ulysses version (0.12-4mdk) -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Ulysse 7.2 beta 3 feedback - PLEASE DO NOT RELEASE THIS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Valin) writes: Well, I use 4.7 and it works fine for me (4.72 is OK too, AFAIK)... What's so new in 4.75, except new bugs? I run helix gnome and it works much better than the versions I've seen with both 7.1 and 7.2b3. What sort of problems have you encountered with our version of Gnome ? Thanks.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] x3270 conflicts with XFree86
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Udo Weber wrote: Since a long time we have this problem on cooker: [root@linux RPMS]# rpm -Uvh x3270-3.1.1.9-2mdk.i586.rpm file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.dir from install of x3270-3.1.1.9-2mdk conflicts with file from package XFree86-4.0.1-20mdk I know options like --force or --nodeps but I don't like it. Please can you fix this. Uh, that's a bug, there shouldn't be any fonts.dir in any package but XFree. The solution is to rebuild the fontdir in %post, I don't know how though. Pablo or FredL? -- Francis Galiegue, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Programming is a race between programmers, who try and make more and more idiot-proof software, and universe, which produces more and more remarkable idiots. Until now, universe leads the race" -- R. Cook
Re: [Cooker] configuration tools for enlightment
hey, Will it be in the final release..configuration tools? - Original Message - From: "David Fink" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] configuration tools for enlightment On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Hal Black wrote: Khawar Zia wrote: hey, For whatever reason the configuration tool button for enlightment is greyed out. It use to work in 7.1 but in 72beta3 it is just greyed out. Is anyone else having this problem? Thank you --Khawar Zia I had this problem too. And it is likewise not available on the desktop menu. That's because enlightenment-conf is not installed in 7.2b. Install an old 7.1 RPM and it will work. David
[Cooker] PROBLEM TRACKING IS NOW OPEN
Hello Cooker ! As I told you in my last email, we were on the edge of opening to you all our bugzilla-based problem tracking system. It is done now. In order to report bugs, wishes, problems, use it ! To be able to access the system, you must first create anaccount, by clicking in "create new account" and following the instructions. An email will be send to you with your generated password. Note that your login is your email address. To submit a new problem, click on "Submit a problem" once logged, fill the forms and submit them. Do not hesitate to report problems about the system itself by using the product named "Mandrakesoft Bugzilla". Report problems about current cooker packages under Linux-Mandrake, using "cooker" as version. Please also give the RPM versions/release in the description. Report problems about Frozen/7.2 using Linux-Mandrake, with version "Ulysses". Please be as descriptive as possible. N.B.: You can use a URL :-) https://qa.mandrakesoft.com Note that your browser must support cookies and SSL. -- Jerome Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] PROBLEM TRACKING IS NOW OPEN
Leif Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: heh. I'd submit this to the mandrake-bugzilla, but... !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN" HTMLHEAD TITLE414 Request-URI Too Large/TITLE /HEADBODY H1Request-URI Too Large/H1 The requested URL's length exceeds the capacity limit for this server.P request failed: URI too longP /BODY/HTML So, uh, whose idea was to make the form submit via GET instead of POST? Sheesh.. Also, i'm unable to 'commit' a bug-report using I.E. 5.5 Netscape 4.75 works.. up to the point that the form is 'GET' submitted, and not 'POST'ed. Better fix that right away.. switch to post, should work now. -- Warly
RE: [Cooker] PROBLEM TRACKING IS NOW OPEN
heh. I'd submit this to the mandrake-bugzilla, but... !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN" HTMLHEAD TITLE414 Request-URI Too Large/TITLE /HEADBODY H1Request-URI Too Large/H1 The requested URL's length exceeds the capacity limit for this server.P request failed: URI too longP /BODY/HTML So, uh, whose idea was to make the form submit via GET instead of POST? Sheesh.. Also, i'm unable to 'commit' a bug-report using I.E. 5.5 Netscape 4.75 works.. up to the point that the form is 'GET' submitted, and not 'POST'ed. Better fix that right away.. - https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/dimension/cgi-bin/post_bug.cgi?bug_status=NEWre porter=leif%40gci.netproduct=Linux+Mandrakeversion=7.1component=hardware rep_platform=sparcpriority=normalbug_severity=highcc=short_desc=Initiali zing+net+interface+causes+kernel+oopscomment=Reported+on+cooker+mailing+lis t%2C+no+responses.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m+able+to+install+%28unlike+7.0% 2C+which+wouldn%27t+boot%29+and%0D%0Aget+the+system+running%2C+however+tryin g+to+initialize+the%0D%0AHME+or+QFE+interfaces+causes+a+kernel+panic.+%0D%0A %0D%0A%0D%0Aoutput+from+dmseg%2C+and+ksymoops%3A%0D%0A---%0D %0APROMLIB%3A+Sun+IEEE+Boot+Prom+3.11.2+1997%2F12%2F05+10%3A25%0D%0ALinux+ve rsion+2.2.16-5mdksecure+%28fg%40u5.mandrakesoft.com%29+%28gcc+driver+version %0D%0A2.7.2+snapshot+970621+executing+gcc+version+2.7.2%29+%231+SMP+Fri+Jun+ 16%0D%0A15%3A10%3A36+CEST+2000%0D%0AARCH%3A+SUN4U%0D%0AEthernet+address%3A+0 8%3A00%3A20%3A82%3A46%3A7a%0D%0AFound+CPU+0+%28node%3Df00661ac%2Cmid%3D0%29% 0D%0AFound+1+CPU+prom+device+tree+node%28s%29.%0D%0AConsole%3A+colour+dummy+ device+80x25%0D%0ACalibrating+delay+loop...+591.46+BogoMIPS%0D%0AMemory%3A+1 034640k+available+%281456k+kernel+code%2C+11344k+data%2C+192k+init%29%0D%0A% 5Bf800%2Cf8003ff1c000%5D%0D%0ADentry+hash+table+entries%3A+1 31072+%28order+8%2C+2048k%29%0D%0ABuffer+cache+hash+table+entries%3A+524288+ %28order+9%2C+4096k%29%0D%0APage+cache+hash+table+entries%3A+131072+%28order +7%2C+1024k%29%0D%0AVFS%3A+Diskquotas+version+dquot_6.4.0+initialized%0D%0AP OSIX+conformance+testing+by+UNIFIX%0D%0AEntering+UltraSMPenguin+Mode...%0D%0 ASMP%3A+Calibrating+ecache+flush...+Using+heuristic+of+1191945+cycles.%0D%0A PCI%3A+Probing+for+controllers.%0D%0APCI%3A+No+PCI+bus+detected%0D%0AIOMMU%2 8SBUS%29%3A+IMPL%5B0%5D+VERS%5B0%5D+SYSIO+mapped+at+f9fe%0D%0AIO MMU%3A+Streaming+Buffer+IMPL%5B0%5D+REV%5B0%5D+...+ENABLED%0D%0Asbus0%3A+Clo ck+25.0+MHz%0D%0Adma0%3A+HME+DVMA+gate+array+%0D%0ALinux+NET4.0+for+Linux+2. 2%0D%0ABased+upon+Swansea+University+Computer+Society+NET3.039%0D%0ANET4%3A+ Unix+domain+sockets+1.0+for+Linux+NET4.0.%0D%0ANET4%3A+Linux+TCP%2FIP+1.0+fo r+NET4.0%0D%0AIP+Protocols%3A+ICMP%2C+UDP%2C+TCP%2C+IGMP%0D%0ATCP%3A+Hash+ta bles+configured+%28ehash+524288+bhash+65536%29%0D%0AInitializing+RT+netlink+ socket%0D%0AStarting+kswapd+v+1.5+%0D%0AConsole%3A+switching+to+colour+frame +buffer+device+128x54%0D%0Afb0%3A+cgsix+at+1000+TEC+Rev+4+CPU+sp arc+Rev+b+%5BTurboGX%5D%0D%0ASparc+Zilog8530+serial+driver+version+1.41.2.6% 0D%0Atty00+at+0xf114+%28irq+%3D+12%2C7e8%29+is+a+Zilog8530%0D%0Atty01+at +0xf110+%28irq+%3D+12%2C7e8%29+is+a+Zilog8530%0D%0Atty02+at+0xf104+% 28irq+%3D+12%2C7e8%29+is+a+Zilog8530%0D%0Atty03+at+0xf100+%28irq+%3D+12% 2C7e8%29+is+a+Zilog8530%0D%0ASun+TYPE+5+keyboard+detected+without+keyclick%0 D%0Apty%3A+256+Unix98+ptys+configured%0D%0ASun+Mouse-Systems+mouse+driver+ve rsion+1.00%0D%0ARAM+disk+driver+initialized%3A++16+RAM+disks+of+4096K+size%0 D%0Amd+driver+0.90.0+MAX_MD_DEVS%3D256%2C+MAX_REAL%3D12%0D%0Araid5%3A+using+ high-speed+VIS+checksum+routine%0D%0Aesp0%3A+IRQ+3%2C7e0+SCSI+ID+7+Clk+40MHz +CCF%3D8+TOut+167+NCR53C9XF%28espfast%29%0D%0AESP%3A+Total+of+1+ESP+hosts+fo und%2C+1+actually+in+use.%0D%0Ascsi0+%3A+Sparc+ESP366-HME%0D%0Ascsi+%3A+1+ho st.%0D%0A++Vendor%3A+FUJITSU+++Model%3A+MAG3182L+SUN18G+++Rev%3A+%0D%0A+ +Type%3A+++Direct-Access++ANSI+SCSI+revision%3A+02%0D%0A Detected+scsi+disk+sda+at+scsi0%2C+channel+0%2C+id+0%2C+lun+0%0D%0A++Vendor% 3A+FUJITSU+++Model%3A+MAG3182L+SUN18G+++Rev%3A+%0D%0A++Type%3A+++Direct- Access++ANSI+SCSI+revision%3A+02%0D%0ADetected+scsi+disk +sdb+at+scsi0%2C+channel+0%2C+id+1%2C+lun+0%0D%0A++Vendor%3A+TOSHIBA+++Model %3A+XM-5401TASUN4XCD++Rev%3A+1036%0D%0A++Type%3A+++CD-ROM+++ ++ANSI+SCSI+revision%3A+02%0D%0Ascsi+%3A+detected+2+SCSI+disks+total .%0D%0Aesp0%3A+target+0+%5Bperiod+100ns+offset+15+20.00MHz+FAST-WIDE+SCSI-II %5D%0D%0ASCSI+device+sda%3A+hdwr+sector%3D+512+bytes.+Sectors%3D+35378533+%5 B17274+MB%5D+%5B17.3%0D%0AGB%5D%0D%0Aesp0%3A+target+1+%5Bperiod+100ns+offset +15+20.00MHz+FAST-WIDE+SCSI-II%5D%0D%0ASCSI+device+sdb%3A+hdwr+sector%3D+512 +bytes.+Sectors%3D+35378533+%5B17274+MB%5D+%5B17.3%0D%0AGB%5D%0D%0APartition +check%3A%0D%0A+sda%3A+sda1+sda2+sda3+sda7%0D%0A+sdb%3A+sdb1+sdb2+sdb3%0D%0A
Re: [Cooker] XFree86 4.0.1 problems
Also sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] : 2) After installing the libraries of 4.0.1, some applications behave differently than under 3.3.6 - for example, xdvi (from plain Mandrake 7.1) does not show the buttons on the right side any more when the 4.0.1 shared libraries are installed. The problem disappears when installing the older 3.3.6 libraries. A small X-application named bibview (available from ftp.dante.de or any TeX archive; I also can provide a src-rpm if that is of some help) compiles fine with both 3.3.6 and 4.0.1; but it gives runtime errors saying XtMakeGeometryRequest - parent not composite when running with the 4.0.1 libraries. Simply intalling the 3.3.6 libraries again makes everything running without problems. Is this a known, intended change in the behaviour of the X-libraries, or is it a bug? I had the same problem with bibView, which i used some times ago. I build a Mdk rpm recently (a nightmare till a found an already existing srpm), but only to find it unusable :-( So i switched to Pybligographic, that manage not only bibtex but alos other biblio formats. Have, a try, it's quite nice. Concerning xdvi, i have no such problems altough. -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
