Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (3)

2001-11-08 Thread Matias Griese

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Tom Badran wrote:
>> POSTIN: /usr/sbin/mimedb add --priority=5 "mozilla" "text/html"
>> POSTUN: /usr/sbin/mimedb del "mozilla"
> That sounds like a great solution. Do kde and gnome both use this for mime
> types? Also, you have to be careful with the del in case the item being

No. Nobody uses a central database for mime type handlers, because there
isn't any. Even applications inside Gnome/KDE have their own mime
files..:( But I would like this to change and the only thing towards
working "pick a file and choose the program to run it" would be this
kind of sollution. Of course the programs and users would have their
own preferences, but in the case where there aren't any, they could
pick _some_ application to run the file instead of letting the novice
user to guess which application he/she needs to see a pdf document
etc..

I just looked at gnome-vfs, galeon and mozilla. They have all their own
mime files, but as thay all are in text/xml, exporter would be quite(?)
easy to make for them all. And of course the implementer could always
go to talk mozilla/gnome/kde people. :)

> deleted is not there (due to manual editing) and make sure that doesnt throw
> any erros / crash rpmdrake etc. Sure this is a bit of work to implement now,

Of course this kind of database must be first designed so that this
kind of situations would not arise.

> but the amount of effort going into things like devfs etc. surely means that
> this is a worthwile venture. I have installed mandrake on machines for people

Agreed.

> Just my thoughts, its pretty hard to think of how to improve such a sweet
> distro.

There is always room for iprovement. But there is usually not enough
time to do it.

Regards,
  Matias






Re: [Cooker] rsync f*ckups again!!!

2001-11-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Fridayen den 9 November 2001 07.07, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> > Why is it that the rsync admins in norway and sweden never seems to be
> > able
> > to settle down on the structure of their Mandrake trees???
> >
> > I first used rsync via uninett, and they f*cked it up. Then I had to
> > change
> > to sunet, and the same f*ckup occured. The other day I switched to
>
> uninett
>
> > again, and five monutes ago my whole RPMS2 dir was wiped clean...
>
> Are you sure? Mandrake/RPMS2 on uninett seems to still exist. The fact
> that they also got duplicated contrib. seems to indicate, they actually
> sync off sunet.

At the time the latest shit happened I stopped all rsyncing and logged in via 
ftp, and yes the RPMS2 dir was gone. But a couple of minutes/hours later it 
was there again. It's very frustrating.

I wonder where the origin is, where do they (uninett and sunet) rsync from?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] naat-monitoring-0.7-1mdk

2001-11-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Thursdayen den 8 November 2001 23.53, Florin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oden Eriksson) writes:
> > Aha! I was mistaken this somehow for another thing from SNF, very
> > interesting package. I have to dwell into it if the messy rsync mirror in
> > norway ever finishes its deed...
> >
> > Does it produce stats and graphs on the fly?
>
> yes,

Cool!

To me it seems to require a backend for producing the data, and BTW there 
seems to be something wrong here:

ls -la /etc/cron.d/
-rw-r--r--1 root root   65 Nov  8 10:11 naat-monitoring

It doesn't need the executable bit set at all maybe?

And, maybe there should be a "/var/www/html/monitoring" dir too?

> > If not, check http://nisca.sourceforge.net for a very cool software...
> > But..., it requires a SNMP aware PHP and Mandrake doesn't have that yet,
> > but could have if my php*src.rpm in the Mandrake /incoming/ was checked
> > and looked into/cleaned up by experts. That version works for me and
> > should work for others too as the required ucd-snmp changes is in place
> > since a while back.
>
> rrdtool does it already without php ;)

Ok, I will check this out more throughoutfully then. But, isn't there a www 
frontend for this, I checked the stuff from SNF but it's not easy to assemble 
just for naat-monitoring...

NISCA has another approach and concept, maybe you should check it out? It's 
very powerful.

Thanks!

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RE: [Cooker] rsync f*ckups again!!!

2001-11-08 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

> 
> Why is it that the rsync admins in norway and sweden never seems to be
> able
> to settle down on the structure of their Mandrake trees???
> 
> I first used rsync via uninett, and they f*cked it up. Then I had to
> change
> to sunet, and the same f*ckup occured. The other day I switched to
uninett
> again, and five monutes ago my whole RPMS2 dir was wiped clean...
>


Are you sure? Mandrake/RPMS2 on uninett seems to still exist. The fact
that they also got duplicated contrib. seems to indicate, they actually
sync off sunet.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] 'DeCSS' DVD descrambler ruled legal

2001-11-08 Thread Digital Wokan

Well, as long as the DVD-CCA doesn't win their appeal, that means a
.src.rpm could be built.  (And a binary RPM could be made available from
a less brain-dead country than the Sorta-united States.)  After all,
France can't tell Yahoo USA not to sell Nazi memorobilia.  So the US has
no authority over a server in another country by that same reasoning. 
Too bad it couldn't be on one of the regular CD's.

Quel Qun wrote:
> 
> The ruling says it cannot be forbidden to publish the source, it
> doesn't say it is legal to compile and use it. I think that's
> what people would like to know.
> =-=
> kk1




Re: [Cooker] Unknown freezes in the night

2001-11-08 Thread Todd Lyons

Steven Lawrance wrote on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 07:50:43PM -0800 :
> 
> Since I'm just a software person and not an electrical engineer, a bad 
> capacitor means that I'll have to probably replace the motherboard, 

Having been an electronics tech in a previous life, I can verify that
electrolytic caps are a problem that gradually onsets.  We used to get
boards in that before we would even start checking parts, we would
change all the electrolytic caps.  The standing rule was if it's not
been changed in less than 6 years, change it without question.  Flaky 
caps on power supplies were the #2 most prevalent fix.  (#1 was bad 
gate driver or base driver circuits, depending on if it was DC or AC 
equipment).

Caps most frequently "dry out" in warm ambient temperatures.  And it
really is drying out.  If you open a new cap and compare to an old cap,
you'll see that it's much less moist.  That also contributes to it
getting warmer (and is mainly why they burn up...no moisture).  I'd
consider inside of a computer running for several years to be warm
ambient temperature.

Your mobo could very well be doing this if it's been in service for
4 or more years.

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Re: [Cooker] Unknown freezes in the night

2001-11-08 Thread Steven Lawrance

I read this on http://rpmfind.net and some other places via google.com 
searches (I was about to buy that motherboard and two Celerons a while ago, 
but decided not to).  Calm down :-).


The electrolytic capacitor thing seems interesting..  I wonder if that's what 
it is...

Since I'm just a software person and not an electrical engineer, a bad 
capacitor means that I'll have to probably replace the motherboard, 
processors, and RAM at the very least -- something that I was hoping to avoid 
for another couple of years until dual G5s come out :-(..

It froze again today when I was about to use the system :-(.  Fortunately, 
the fsck times (currently use only ext2, but would like to use resierfs) seem 
very fast in the latest cooker compared to what they were several months ago 
:-) (new version of ext2fsck?).

I've read that several kernel debuggers are available for the Linux kernel.  
I haven't spent much time looking into whether or not it's built into the 
cooker kernels, so I was wondering if anyone here knows the best way to try 
to debug the kernel.  I'm very anxious to find out exactly where in the 
kernel these freezes happen ;-), and if it's consistently in the same place.  
Time for me to hit the HOWTOs :-)...


On Thursday 08 November 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
> On Thursdayen den 8 November 2001 17.05, Steven Lawrance wrote:
> > I've read that the infamous Abit BP6 dual Celeron motherboards were
> > notorious for APIC errors and had a lot of crashing problems, but I'm
> > hoping that my motherboard, a GigaByte dual-Pentium (GA-5DX or something
> > like that), doesn't have the same problems :-) (it came out well before
> > the BP6, back in 1997).
>
> ???
>
> I have never had any problems what so ever with my bp6. Where did you read
> this? And under what circumstances does it crash?

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[Cooker] gcombust and user doesn't work, works in root though

2001-11-08 Thread David

Trying to use gcombust as user and complains about cdrecord permission. Says
user doesn't have permission or drive settings wrong.

Tried to start cdrecord from terminal and say's don't have permission. 
User has
permission for the cdrom and cdwriter,...

Everything works fine as root and burnt a CD.

So changed permissions manually on cdrecord itself and now everything works.
Permission on file was set 6750, so figure User should have been able to 
execute
cause was in the Group.  But would cdrecord still wouldn't work.
So changed permissions to 6755  to let Others read and execute, and 
everthing fine

This has happened with cdrecord-1.10-2mdk and 1.11-0.a08_dvdhack.3mdk
Figure there is a good chance it isn't just cdrecord itself, but don't know.
Haven't seen this problem with other programs though, if the User has 
permission can
use it.


Running: kernel-2.4.8-26mdk and KDE base-2.2.1-14mdk






Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (1)

2001-11-08 Thread Murray Root

 Yura Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Todd Lyons wrote:
> 
> > Matias Griese wrote on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:22:04PM +0200 :
> > >
> > > XMMS: The must have X multimedia system -- ?!?
> >
> > The only thing misleading there is the capitalization.  I would suggest:
> > "XMMS:  The X MultiMedia System mp3/ogg player"
> 
> XMMS is a multimedia player
> XMMS is a multi format audio player.
> 

Go with multimedia. It also plays mpegs.

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[Cooker] glade can't load due to gnome-db error

2001-11-08 Thread Steve Fox

[drfickle@tp flink-0.3.2]$ glade
glade: error while loading shared libraries: glade: undefined symbol:
gnome_db_errordlg_get_type

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Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (1)

2001-11-08 Thread Yura Gusev

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Todd Lyons wrote:

> Matias Griese wrote on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:22:04PM +0200 :
> >
> > XMMS: The must have X multimedia system -- ?!?
>
> The only thing misleading there is the capitalization.  I would suggest:
> "XMMS:  The X MultiMedia System mp3/ogg player"

XMMS is a multimedia player
XMMS is a multi format audio player.

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[Cooker] Help with packages (RPM)

2001-11-08 Thread Nicholas Parsons

Hi everyone,

I'm new here and would like to help out anyway I can.  Don't worry as I know
some stuff about computers (just got my Bachelor of Science in Computer
Science and applied math).  Code in C all day at work now and would love to
get my hands dirty with this stuff...  So if anyone needs assistance
completing a package just fill me in on details and I'll get started =)

--Nick


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Professional C/C++ Programmer
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[Cooker] updating pango breaks libgtk?

2001-11-08 Thread Vincent Meyer

Updating pango breaks libgtk?  or is this ok to force?

V,

error: failed dependencies:
libpango-0.20.so   is needed by libgtk+2-1.3.9-1mdk
libpangox-0.20.so   is needed by libgtk+2-1.3.9-1mdk
libpangoxft-0.20.so   is needed by libgtk+2-1.3.9-1mdk




[Cooker] pppoe install

2001-11-08 Thread Yura Gusev


1 rp-pppoe is not installed by default.
2 eth interface that is connected to DSL dont need IP.

from documentation
"DO NOT assign an IP address to the Ethernet card.  DO NOT configure the
card to come up at boot time."


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Re: [Cooker] USB mic and 8.1

2001-11-08 Thread Rainer Koschnick

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:17:35 +0700
tracer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > an USB microphone ? WTH do you want to use an USB microphone ? where is
> > the inetrest ? a normal jack microphone connect to a normal sound card
> > is not enough ?
> 
> If one uses a USB speaker there IS no soundcard in the PC...
> One of my customers still has a soundblaster live, uses the Harmon
> Kardon digital speakers  but the soundcard is only used by the
> microphone, kind of a waste so a USB mic may be useful...

USB mics are also used by webcams (Philip's ToUCams for example).
I don't see why I should buy an extra microphone and attach it to
my soundcard if there's already one connected and ready to use?

Regards,
Rainer




[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kernel-mosix-2.4.13-1mdk

2001-11-08 Thread Blue Lizard

Thierry Vignaud wrote:

>[Contrib-RPM]
>
>--=-=-=
>Name: kernel-mosix Relocations: (not relocateable)
>Version : 2.4.13Vendor: MandrakeSoft
>
>* Thu Nov 08 2001 Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.13-1mdk
>
>- MOSIX-1.5.1 (do not mix with previous mosix releases)
>
Last didn't work for me...at all.  One thing I noticed was that of 
course the postinst scrippts didn't create or use an initrd and lilo 
entry pointed to the one from 2.4.13 (non mosix).
Give this one a try?






Re: [Cooker] USB mic and 8.1

2001-11-08 Thread tracer

Hello Fabrice FACORAT,
On 07 Nov 2001 14:01:46 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, November 07, 2001, 8:01:46 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,




Fabrice FACORAT wrote:


> le lun 05-11-2001 at 18:27 Charles A Edwards a écrit :
>>  
>> Having been running cooker on 2 systems I finally received my
>> copy of the 8.1 PowerPack and installed it on my 1ghz t-bird.
>> I won't go into the "fun" that was, it a complaint and rant for
>> a different list.
>> 
>> This post relates to a sound problem I encountered when I successed
>> in getting 8.1 installed.
>> On this particular system I have attached a Telex H-531 Digital USB
>> michrophone.

> an USB microphone ? WTH do you want to use an USB microphone ? where is
> the inetrest ? a normal jack microphone connect to a normal sound card
> is not enough ?

If one uses a USB speaker there IS no soundcard in the PC...
One of my customers still has a soundblaster live, uses the Harmon
Kardon digital speakers  but the soundcard is only used by the
microphone, kind of a waste so a USB mic may be useful...



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Re: [Cooker] Unknown freezes in the night

2001-11-08 Thread Charles Shirley

On Thursday 08 November 2001 17:47, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> On Thursdayen den 8 November 2001 17.05, Steven Lawrance wrote:
> > I've read that the infamous Abit BP6 dual Celeron motherboards
> > were notorious for APIC errors and had a lot of crashing
> > problems, but I'm hoping that my motherboard, a GigaByte
> > dual-Pentium (GA-5DX or something like that), doesn't have the
> > same problems :-) (it came out well before the BP6, back in
> > 1997).
>
> I have never had any problems what so ever with my bp6. Where did
> you read this? And under what circumstances does it crash?

I used to have these by the truckload when I started using mandrake 
kernels again after the switch to 2.4 series on my BP6, until I 
modified it to run Pentium III processors.  THat old HX motherboard 
might be having problems supplying clean power to the CPUs.  The 
main change made to my BP6 to run P-IIIs involved upgrading a bunch 
of electrolytic capacitors.  Electrolytic capacitors have finite 
lifespans.  It could be that the capacitors on that HX chipset 
motherboard might be getting stale... not dead yet, but a bit 
stale.  If they are on the edge, the system would be mostly stable, 
but would fail from time to time, but not consistantly...  Just my 
opinion, of course...  Afterall, I'm a physicyst working as a 
customer service agent, not an electrician!

~~Chuck




Re: [Cooker] Re: [expert] rsh - Permission Denied

2001-11-08 Thread Florin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn Burkhardt) writes:

> --- =_aa0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> There's a minor bug or documentation discrepancy in rsh-server/pam in Mandrake 
> 8.1 - perhaps some one who has authority can submit a bug report or correct
> it!  ;-)
> 
> To review, the comment line in /etc/pam.d/rsh, which says 
> 
>   # For root login to succeed here with pam_securetty, "rsh" must be
>   # listed in /etc/securetty.
> 
> is incorrect.  The string 'tty' must be placed in /etc/securetty.
>   

hello there,

this might come because of msec ... what security level are you using
(env|grep SEC]

I'll have a look at it,

cheers,
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] naat-monitoring-0.7-1mdk

2001-11-08 Thread Florin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oden Eriksson) writes:


> Aha! I was mistaken this somehow for another thing from SNF, very interesting 
> package. I have to dwell into it if the messy rsync mirror in norway ever 
> finishes its deed...
> 
> Does it produce stats and graphs on the fly?

yes, 

> 
> If not, check http://nisca.sourceforge.net for a very cool software... 
> But..., it requires a SNMP aware PHP and Mandrake doesn't have that yet, but 
> could have if my php*src.rpm in the Mandrake /incoming/ was checked and 
> looked into/cleaned up by experts. That version works for me and should work 
> for others too as the required ucd-snmp changes is in place since a while 
> back.
> 
rrdtool does it already without php ;)

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[Cooker] rsync f*ckups again!!!

2001-11-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

Hi,

Why is it that the rsync admins in norway and sweden never seems to be able 
to settle down on the structure of their Mandrake trees???

I first used rsync via uninett, and they f*cked it up. Then I had to change 
to sunet, and the same f*ckup occured. The other day I switched to uninett 
again, and five monutes ago my whole RPMS2 dir was wiped clean...

I'm tired of fetching the whole damn thing after 4-5 times..., it's not very 
funny when you are bound to use a "broadband" connection provided by Telia, 
Sweden and also want to stay up to date with cooker...

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Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-2.4.13-4mdk

2001-11-08 Thread Stew Benedict


On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Brian J. Murrell wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:31:40PM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, will update after -5mdk (being compiled).
> 
> OK.  No hurry.  I have compiled 0.5.12 (ALSA is one of the really nice
> drivers that compile outside the kernel tree very neatly) and it does
> not fix my problem.  ~sigh~
> 
> > because at some point it makes too many problems for ppc people :(
> 
> ~grumble~  As much as it sucks to be dragged behind by lowest common
> demoninators, I understand.
> 

Hey, hey!  Don't let us poor PPC folks hold you back.  If you want to
upgrade go ahead. I don't think a lot of PPC users are using alsa, and the
beta versions have actually improved PPC support inmost cases.  We hit the
problem before when I wanted to use beta for PPC in the same kernel that
x86 was using stable.

Stew Benedict

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Re: [Cooker] compiling kernel

2001-11-08 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

sven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> BTW, does anyone know how the modules list "modules.cz-2.x.x-xmdk.bz" can be 
> re-generated ? Is it a simple list tarred and bzipped or else ??

"update_kernel" in gi has the following function:

[...]

echo "Updating modules in '`pwd`' for kernel '$kern'"
cp -f `find $kernel_path/lib/modules/ -name "*.o"` .
/sbin/depmod -F $kernel_path/boot/System.map* -e *.o | perl -pe 's/\\\n//' \
| perl -ne 's/\.o//g; s/[ \t]+/ /g; print if /: /' > modules.dep
perl -pi -e 's/((plip|ppa|imm): parport)/$1 parport_pc/' modules.dep
ls *.o | packdrake -b9s "modules.cz" 40
mv modules.cz ../modules.cz-$kern

[...]



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Re: [Cooker] contrib tree duplicated on uninett?

2001-11-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Thursdayen den 8 November 2001 23.36, Laurent CREPET wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 04:48:56PM +0300, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> > uninett has two contrib. archivess - one in Mandrake/RPMS2 and one
> > outside of cooker tree. Which one is "official"?
> >
> > -andrej
>
> First should be a link to second, no ? I got this on my local mirror,
> rsync from sunet.se:
> lrwxrwxrwx1 lct  lct22 nov  5 03:49 RPMS2 ->
> ../../../contrib/i586/

No, Andrej is right. But..., the last time I ran my rsync my local 
Mandrake/RPMS2 was erased. Now they seems to have it back in place again... 
What a mess...

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[Cooker] Unknown freezes in the night

2001-11-08 Thread Steven Lawrance

This is probably more of a kernel issue or possibly hardware, but my system 
has locked up twice within the last week while I was asleep :-(.  In the log 
file for the latest one (this morning), it appeared to happen during the cron 
job run:

Nov  8 04:02:00 penguin CROND[18995]: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.daily)
Nov  8 04:02:00 penguin anacron[18998]: Updated timestamp for job 
`cron.daily' to 2001-11-08
Nov  8 04:02:10 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 08(00)
Nov  8 04:02:10 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 02(00)
Nov  8 04:02:10 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 01(00)
Nov  8 04:02:45 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 08(01)
Nov  8 04:02:45 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 02(00)
Nov  8 04:02:45 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 00(00)
Nov  8 04:02:49 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 09(00)
Nov  8 04:02:49 penguin kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 02(00)
Nov  8 07:01:56 penguin syslogd 1.4-0: restart.
Nov  8 07:01:56 penguin kernel: klogd 1.4-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Nov  8 07:01:56 penguin kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.4.13-2mdksmp
Nov  8 07:01:56 penguin rpc.statd[855]: Version 0.3.3 Starting
Nov  8 07:01:57 penguin nfslock: rpc.statd startup succeeded
Nov  8 07:01:57 penguin kernel: Loaded 15972 symbols from 
/boot/System.map-2.4.13-2mdksmp.

This system has the latest cooker as of 11/6/2001, and is running on a dual 
Pentium 233/MMX (Pentium 1).

I have actually got these APIC errors ever since I started using 2.4.x (about 
a year I think..), with occasional freezes.  With 2.2.x, I didn't see the 
APIC errors, though it sometimes froze without warning.  Back when it had NT 
on it (3 years ago), the only thing that froze it was the Creative Labs Sound 
Blaster AWE64 driver (froze NT during sound playback and listed the driver at 
the top of the stack in the BSODs).

Does anyone have any tips on how I might go about debugging the kernel?  On 
every crash that I've had since running Mandrake, the SysRq key combinations 
to sync, unmount, and reboot don't work, but they do work when the system is 
not crashed.  I'm hoping that it's a software issue that can be fixed, though 
I'm not ruling out hardware..  The processors felt very warm in both cases, 
as if some part of the kernel was stuck in an infinite loop or race 
condition.  In some of my previous kernels, I've commented out the printk() 
line that writes the APIC error to the log so that my hard drives could 
actually pin down from less disk activity, but of course this isn't an ideal 
solution ;-).

I've read that the infamous Abit BP6 dual Celeron motherboards were notorious 
for APIC errors and had a lot of crashing problems, but I'm hoping that my 
motherboard, a GigaByte dual-Pentium (GA-5DX or something like that), doesn't 
have the same problems :-) (it came out well before the BP6, back in 1997).

Crashes are quite rare, but do happen a couple times each month (unusual for 
a Linux system).  X on my Matrox Millennium II crashes sometimes, too (about 
once a month), but it doesn't bring the system down with it.  My router, by 
contrast, has been up since I last turned it on in March 2001 (old RedHat 6.2 
system on a single Pentium 133 and 300MB hard drive).


--Steven Lawrance--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] Unknown freezes in the night

2001-11-08 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Thursdayen den 8 November 2001 17.05, Steven Lawrance wrote:

> I've read that the infamous Abit BP6 dual Celeron motherboards were
> notorious for APIC errors and had a lot of crashing problems, but I'm
> hoping that my motherboard, a GigaByte dual-Pentium (GA-5DX or something
> like that), doesn't have the same problems :-) (it came out well before the
> BP6, back in 1997).

???

I have never had any problems what so ever with my bp6. Where did you read 
this? And under what circumstances does it crash?

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| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.13-4mdksmp: 11:26
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4141 rpm, temp +31.0°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4066 rpm, temp +29°C




Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (3)

2001-11-08 Thread Matias Griese

On 7 Nov 2001, Fabrice FACORAT wrote:

> So it's in fact a central mime type definition. Unfortunately we have 2
> desktop and until they manage to use some common config files we have to
> deal with this.

True. But as long as we have many config files, we could keep
our own database (configuration file) of MIME types and the programs
which can handle the MIME types. Every time when a program is
installed, it will be added to this configuration file. Then
the altered information will be exported to all the programs
which are supported (I assume that they all have some kind of
configuration files, which we could modify).

> But as menudrake there's maybe a way to have unified mime type.

I think it won't work for example in Mozilla, Nautilus or in any
program.. :(

Regards,
  Matias






Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (2)

2001-11-08 Thread Matias Griese

On 7 Nov 2001, Fabrice FACORAT wrote:
>> there should be option to choose their own language and keyboard layout
> a peer user localdrake ?

Yes, some kind of "My Control Center".

>> Another such a configuration could be choosing the size of the
>> desktop (screen resolution).
> At one time there's only one user. CTRL+ALT+ +/-
> A personnal resolution for each user may be hard to implement unless ...

Yes, that works except the virtual desktop should be shrinked to
the same size as the screen resolution is. I'm not quite sure
if it is possible, but by restarting X Window system and by using
different configuration file it should work..?

>> There are also other things which should be in this user-level
>> control panel, like: change password,
> userdrake

Won't work: "In order to run "userdrake" with root's privileges,
additional information is required. Password for root: __ "

There is Configuration->Other->Change Password, but how many finds it
from there?

>> change photo,
> userdrake

Look above..

>> edit menu,
> menudrake
>> task scheduler,
> cf your wm/desktop

Yes, but what I meant with one place was to make some kind of
My Control Center, where the user could easily find everything
without searching for an hour or two..

>> shortcuts to different configuration applications like Gnome Control
>> Center, Print Queue, etc, etc..
> ??? i d'ont understand. On the desktop ? n

No, not desktop. I mean something like Mandrake Control Center but
for a user. Mandrake is very nice distribution as long as you have
the root privileges. But if you try to use Mandrake as a normal
user, it's just horrible. How to change your language, photo,
password? They are very hard to find from menu (because most of
the configuration tools need root privileges) if they can be found
at all ( +  + +/-). Even I don't try to find some
configuration tool from the menu, because it's much faster to
run it directly from a terminal. My Control Panel would fix this
together with Mandrake Control Center if they are both well made.

Regards,
  Matias






Re: [Cooker] contrib tree duplicated on uninett?

2001-11-08 Thread Laurent CREPET

On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 04:48:56PM +0300, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> uninett has two contrib. archivess - one in Mandrake/RPMS2 and one
> outside of cooker tree. Which one is "official"? 
> 
> -andrej
> 

First should be a link to second, no ? I got this on my local mirror,
rsync from sunet.se:
lrwxrwxrwx1 lct  lct22 nov  5 03:49 RPMS2 -> ../../../contrib/i586/

Laurent.
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Laurent CREPET -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Cooker] screen savers broken by new Mesa

2001-11-08 Thread François Pons

Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> KDE and a lot of other stuff is broken too, dirty fix:
> 
> cd /usr/X11R6/lib/
> ln -s libGL.so.1.3.400 libGL.so.1.2.400

Yes, I didn't see it when building, sorry for the inconveniance, I fix that
stuff.

François.




[Cooker] Re: [expert] rsh - Permission Denied

2001-11-08 Thread Glenn Burkhardt

There's a minor bug or documentation discrepancy in rsh-server/pam in Mandrake 
8.1 - perhaps some one who has authority can submit a bug report or correct
it!  ;-)

To review, the comment line in /etc/pam.d/rsh, which says 

# For root login to succeed here with pam_securetty, "rsh" must be
# listed in /etc/securetty.

is incorrect.  The string 'tty' must be placed in /etc/securetty.


--- Begin Message ---

Ok, I found it.  In 'rshd.c', there's this line of code:

pam_set_item (pamh, PAM_TTY, "tty");

This sets the token looked for in /etc/securetty.  So the comment in 
/etc/pam.d/rsh is wrong - the value needed in /etc/securetty is 'tty',
not 'rsh'.

This works.  After adding the string 'tty' at the end of /etc/securetty,
the command 'rsh otherhost ls' works if it's executed by 'root'.

This was with LM 8.1.

> Hi Glenn,
> 
> I believe there was an issue with /etc/securetty that prevented rsh from
> working. I'll have to look back at my archives later tonight and see if I
> can find the details - it's been a while!
> 
> That is, unless someone else on the list can explain better why rsh is such
> a problem for root under LM8.x?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Glenn Burkhardt
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 11/7/01 11:17 AM
> Subject: [expert] rsh - Permission Denied
> 
> I've found your long correspondence about securetty and rsh for root in
> the Mandrake expert archive - did
> you every find a solution other than using ssh?
> 
> Thanks.



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Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (1)

2001-11-08 Thread Todd Lyons

Matias Griese wrote on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:22:04PM +0200 :
> 
> XMMS: The must have X multimedia system -- ?!?

The only thing misleading there is the capitalization.  I would suggest:
"XMMS:  The X MultiMedia System mp3/ogg player"
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[Cooker] status of nautilus?

2001-11-08 Thread David

What is the current status of a mandrake-ized nautilus-1.0.5?  its been
out for quite some time now.  

Thanks
David


-- 
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
--Darth Vader





Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (3)

2001-11-08 Thread Tom Badran

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> Why? There are easier ways to do the same:
>
> POSTIN: /usr/sbin/mimedb add --priority=5 "mozilla" "text/html"
> POSTUN: /usr/sbin/mimedb del "mozilla"
> (perhaps we should first look if the executable exists?)
>
> mimedb would be able to add and remove entries in a file
> /etc/mime.run or similiar..

That sounds like a great solution. Do kde and gnome both use this for mime 
types? Also, you have to be careful with the del in case the item being 
deleted is not there (due to manual editing) and make sure that doesnt throw 
any erros / crash rpmdrake etc. Sure this is a bit of work to implement now, 
but the amount of effort going into things like devfs etc. surely means that 
this is a worthwile venture. I have installed mandrake on machines for people 
who have never used linux before, and their biggest complaint (obscure 
hardware excluded - mostly winmodems) is that even though there is an icon 
for a file, there is no app, and they have no idea which apps do what.

I also think a nice idea would be a place on the website users can request an 
rpm of a package they want, but for which there is none (and therefore 
wouldnt know how to install) and we could view these requests and make rpms. 
This would obviously have searchable functionality and user mailback when a 
packages has been made etc.. When i was new to linux trying to get some apps 
working (from source) was very confusing. Especially as everything under dos 
had an 'install program' of sorts. Ive been using it for years and i STILL 
cant get festival speech synthesis to compile.

Just my thoughts, its pretty hard to think of how to improve such a sweet 
distro. 

Tom

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Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (3)

2001-11-08 Thread Matias Griese

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, John Haywood wrote:
> four file browsers (konqueror, gmc, XWC, mc), six browsers (konqueror,
> Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, links, lynx) and a raft of possible helper apps
> (just look at PostScript viewers...)

I know. But if Mandrake would offer this kind of auto-MIME feature
for some of the most popular applications (like Mozilla), everyone
would start thinking that "hey, that's a good idea" and perhaps
join the efford..

> Not saying it couldn't be done, but there'd have to be a heck of a long IF,
> THEN, ELSE parsing the rpm database on a pretty regular basis - not for the
> low-end machine, methinks, and also fairly vulnerable to corruption

Why? There are easier ways to do the same:

POSTIN: /usr/sbin/mimedb add --priority=5 "mozilla" "text/html"
POSTUN: /usr/sbin/mimedb del "mozilla"
(perhaps we should first look if the executable exists?)

mimedb would be able to add and remove entries in a file
/etc/mime.run or similiar..

Then there would be /usr/bin/mimedb_update which would add the
entries to the config files of every supported program.. Or
better, get the programmers to change their programs to use
/ets/mime.run file by themselves..

>  although I suppose a package *could* have some sort of optional specfile
> field which gave the mime type(s) handled, then have that stored in a central
> db, but then we're talking 'bout extending rpm, can 'o worms

But I still like the idea. And it would not be too hard to
add few lines to spec files.. A few at one time, a few at the
another..

Regards,
  Matias






[Cooker] bash problems

2001-11-08 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld


When I log in using Gnome or Sawfish, the terminals doesn't use
loginshell, but they still get all the aliases right. (The files in
/etc/profile.d/ has been sourced).

If I use enlightenment the terminals are still not login shells, but they
also don't have the colors or aliases right. But if I start a new terminal
from the one opened ( $ gnome-terminal) or any other, this terminal will
get the right setup.

I have checked how the different setups are started, but the only place I
have found a -login (which should trigger the sourcing of
/etc/profile.d/), is in /etx/X11/Xsession.

So why the difference?

Hope this wasn't to confusing

seb







[Cooker] How to get the cooker community newsletter by email?

2001-11-08 Thread José Romildo Malaquias

Hello.

Once a while I had been receiving a comunity newsletter from Mandrake
about the Cooker development latest news. After changing my email
servers I have lost this service. How can I have it again?

Regards,

Romildo
-- 
Prof. José Romildo Malaquias   Departamento de Computação
http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo   Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Brasil
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Re: [Cooker] Suggestions for upcoming Mandrake (1)

2001-11-08 Thread Matias Griese

On 7 Nov 2001, Fabrice FACORAT wrote:
> what about a brain storming about that ?
> We point out the description that we find incorrect or unclear and
> propose an alternative.
> After people give their opinion and if there's no major problem we adopt
> it.

I think that it's too much work. Better idea would be to get some
volunteer to make the new tooltips. And perhaps give him our ideas
if he wants some.

Regards,
  Matias






Re: [Cooker] Gears crash?

2001-11-08 Thread Tom Badran

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On Thursday 08 Nov 2001 1:25 pm, you wrote:
> Nvidia's drivers haven't been very stable lately from what I've seen. I was
> getting intermittent video crashes all the time until I reverted to
> 0.9-767, and the problem wasn't limited to Linux. A windows box I have
> experienced identical symptoms until I reverted the drivers to 7.78. In
> both cases the lockups completely vanished with the older drivers
> installed.

On a machine i set up with an nvidia card, we had to set the agp mode to 1 in 
the bios, and it hasnt crashed since. Also, there has been NO performance hit 
at all (under blows as well, but i dont use that so it doesnt matter).

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Re: [Cooker] huge cupsd

2001-11-08 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Bjoern Jacke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >Uh?  SuSE's on this list? :)  Nice to see! *G*
> 
> why not? anyone can join suse lists ;)

Could you tell me how to access Suse lists subscription? I tried to go to
SUSE website and search for mailing-lists but no one was reported.

Thanks!

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily

2001-11-08 Thread J.P.Pasnak

On Thursday 08 November 2001 09:29 am, you wrote:
> On Thursdayen den 8 November 2001 16.09, J.P.Pasnak wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 November 2001 08:09 am, you wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > since I updated logrotate to the latest release (logrotate-3.5.9-1mdk)
> > > I'm getting the following error everyday:
> > >
> > > error: /etc/logrotate.conf:9 unexpected text
> >
> > I'm seeing the exact same thing, and it doesn't seem to be e-mailing.
> > Line 9 is 'errors  root'
>
> According to the source the errors directive is deprecated. I wonder why?

The man for logrotate has change, to reflect the change (still don't know why 
through):
Old man:
The  first  few  lines set global options; any errors that occur during log 
file processing are mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and logs are compressed after 
they are rotated.

New man:
 If  no  command  line  arguments are given, logrotate will print version and 
copyright information, along with a short usage summary.  If any errors occur 
while rotating logs, logrotate will exit with non-zero status.

-- 
"Live fast, die young,
you're sucking up my bandwidth"

J.P. Pasnak, CD
Warped Systems
http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca
http://canopener.ca




Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-2.4.13-4mdk

2001-11-08 Thread Brian J. Murrell

On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:31:40PM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
> 
> Ok, will update after -5mdk (being compiled).

OK.  No hurry.  I have compiled 0.5.12 (ALSA is one of the really nice
drivers that compile outside the kernel tree very neatly) and it does
not fix my problem.  ~sigh~

> because at some point it makes too many problems for ppc people :(

~grumble~  As much as it sucks to be dragged behind by lowest common
demoninators, I understand.

> will update to 0.5.12 and then to 0.9.0 ok?

OK.  I guess I can't ask for much more.  If I really need 0.9.0beta9
before it comes in the mdk kernel, I can always build and install it
myself (see note above about how nice ALSA is about building outside
the kernel.  :-)

Thanx!

b.


-- 
Brian J. Murrell




Re: [Cooker] huge cupsd

2001-11-08 Thread Burkhard Zombronner

Hello Guillaume,

go to http://www.suse.com/us/support/mailinglists/index.html

Thats all. Just went there for you as I do not like and use Suse at all.

Have a good time 

Burkhard Zombronner
Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2001 16:55 schrieben Sie:
> Bjoern Jacke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >Uh?  SuSE's on this list? :)  Nice to see! *G*
> >
> > why not? anyone can join suse lists ;)
>
> Could you tell me how to access Suse lists subscription? I tried to go to
> SUSE website and search for mailing-lists but no one was reported.
>
> Thanks!




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] naat-monitoring-0.7-1mdk

2001-11-08 Thread Florin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oden Eriksson) writes:

> On Thursdayen den 8 November 2001 15.30, Philippe Libat wrote:
> > --=-=-=
> > Name: naat-monitoring  Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > Version : 0.7   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> > Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Thu Nov  8 10:11:04
> 
> Why not throw in PhpSysInfo as a full replacement of this one as it's based 
> on that in the first place?

Hello,

phpsysinfo and naat-monitoring are not the same.
Naat-monitoring is using rrdtool as a backend and creates images for
network traffic and system graphs and phsysinfo is just a bunch of infos
on a web page.

cheers,
-- 
Florin  http://www.mandrakesoft.com




[Cooker] Strange problems with lesstif in Mandrake 8.1

2001-11-08 Thread Jose Antonio Becerra Permuy

Lesstiff that comes with Mandrake 8.1 doesn't work well:
- Sometimes variables show incorrect values within DDD.
- Sometimes robot' sensors show incorrect values within Saphira (a tool to 
develop robot controllers).
Both applications:
- Use motif (or compatible) libraries.
- Work well with Mandrake 8.0's lesstif.
- Work well with Mandrake 8.1 if I uninstall lesstif and install openmotif 
(I recompiled DDD but not Saphira).
I am only subscribed to cooker and I don't read every e-mail, so, if you 
want more information, cc. to my private e-mail address.