[Cooker] reiserfs partitions not useable for hd install
Hi! This is on cooker as of yesterday. Reiserfs partitions was not useable for hd install via cooker of 2003-08-10 from both isolinux/alt0 and isolinux/alt1 . ext3 partitions worked. The reiserfs error was something like no useful partition on drive best regards Keld
Re[2]: [Cooker] reiserfs quota support
TP there is location of patch: TP ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiserfs-for-2.4/testing/quota-2.4.20 TP which is officially recommended at oficially reiserfs faq. if i can, TP i vote for including it into mandrake kernel after unfreezing distro. TP of course, directory named as testing, but qa team maybe can test under TP his kernel tests, if it is usable. so how about including reiserfs quota to MDK 9.1 release's kernel ?
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs quota support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 maxxik wrote: TP there is location of patch: TP ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiserfs-for-2.4/testing/quota-2.4.20 TP which is officially recommended at oficially reiserfs faq. if i can, TP i vote for including it into mandrake kernel after unfreezing distro. TP of course, directory named as testing, but qa team maybe can test under TP his kernel tests, if it is usable. so how about including reiserfs quota to MDK 9.1 release's kernel ? No way we want to see a big patch like this go in now! The kernel team have discussed this before, and aren't prepared to do the work to maintain this, since two other filesystems provide quota support already, without additional intrusive patches. Maybe you can request it for 9.2 (along with a 2.6 kernel?). - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+daj1rJK6UGDSBKcRAuNoAKC0fs5sf8Zw5xp5mLx803r5a7hyGACaAyWt ECWz/x/d7O1dfRkk+8eYJb0= =ApdY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] reiserfs quota support
Hi ppl ! I wanna ask - there will be reiserfs quota support in new MDK 9.1 release kernel ? WBR, maxx
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs quota support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 maxxik wrote: Hi ppl ! I wanna ask - there will be reiserfs quota support in new MDK 9.1 release kernel ? AFAIK, no (see man mount, no quota option listed for reiser). Use a real FS, like XFS ;-). IMHO, ReiserFS is usually useful for filesystems that don't need quota support, things like mail queues, proxy caches etc. For the places you want quotas (places users can write), you probably want good large-file performance and may want acl support, so ext3, or ever better, XFS are more suited here. quotas on XFS are also just so much easier to setup than ext3, and update almost immediately, plus normal users can check their quota, (apparently not possible on ext3, maybe also not on reiser). With XFS on our fileserver, I can even check the quota on the NFS mounts as a normal user. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+cgjbrJK6UGDSBKcRAhhrAJ4hAHHWsr4Qb/rkP/FvTtkhzBmGXwCdHdFQ ccQqe377F8W/X+D63HXUBrM= =E5Pe -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs quota support
Le Vendredi 14 Mars 2003 17:52, Buchan Milne a écrit : plus normal users can check their quota, (apparently not possible on ext3, maybe also not on reiser). Sorry ?? User can check quota over nfs on ext3. you only need to nsflock services. Quota on reiserfs is possible with a patch on kernel, suse include it. But is it a good to provide this ? (it is not support by kernel team for 2.4). -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs quota support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Vendredi 14 Mars 2003 17:52, Buchan Milne a écrit : plus normal users can check their quota, (apparently not possible on ext3, maybe also not on reiser). Sorry ?? User can check quota over nfs on ext3. you only need to nsflock services. Maybe I didn't follow this thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=103484516128650w=2 to it's proper conclusion: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=103484516128650w=2 and assumed that the current implementation did not allow quota to work as a normal user ... Sorry. Quota on reiserfs is possible with a patch on kernel, suse include it. Which AFAICR Juan and Chmouel were not too excited about ... But is it a good to provide this ? (it is not support by kernel team for 2.4). IMHO, no, and unnecessary (except possibly on a mail server running courier-imap or something like that where users would have large volumes of small files). Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+chagrJK6UGDSBKcRAgu9AJ9OQaRRoFBPKbnhRxn8x5OTlNVRuQCfcaY6 VNaNLOzA07UHBWcJVH8ryV8= =s6xF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs quota support
Le Vendredi 14 Mars 2003 18:51, Buchan Milne a écrit : and assumed that the current implementation did not allow quota to work as a normal user ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ quota Disk quotas for user thauvin (uid 5574): Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace savtcp:/net/savtcp/home 490108 100 10150007294 0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (dolphin) for i586 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ mount | grep /home /dev/sdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw,quota) But this machine is RH, too bad, haven't computer to easilly test :( -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs quota support
On 14. mar 2003, 18:03, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Quota on reiserfs is possible with a patch on kernel, suse include it. But is it a good to provide this ? (it is not support by kernel team for 2.4). yes, quota support under reiserfs isn't included into plain 2.4 kernel, but supermount isn't too ;] there is location of patch: ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiserfs-for-2.4/testing/quota-2.4.20 which is officially recommended at oficially reiserfs faq. if i can, i vote for including it into mandrake kernel after unfreezing distro. of course, directory named as testing, but qa team maybe can test under his kernel tests, if it is usable. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFs and Fatx ???
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Nicolas gomez wrote: Hi! I want to delete this ext2 partition and replace it for a ReiserFs partition with a 2.4.8 kernel on linux-mandrake 8.1... The things I want to know is the compatibility among reiser and other partitions like Fat16, 32, ext2, NFS, etc, etc. Also I wanna know your opinion or experiences of ReiserFs' performance in comparison with ext2. http://www.namesys.com/ Thanks a lot!!! Nicolas Gomez Montevideo, URGAY -- 8:11pm up 37 days, 9:07, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.01, 0.00 __ | / \ |Iouri Goussev// \\ \_\\ //_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\\()//_ .'/()\'. Foo-Bar / // \\ \ jgs\\ // http://foobar.irc-unix.net| \__/ | I am not 31337. But I can use the Vi editor... ;-0
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFs and Fatx ???
Nicolas gomez wrote: Hi! I want to delete this ext2 partition and replace it for a ReiserFs partition with a 2.4.8 kernel on linux-mandrake 8.1... The things I want to know is the compatibility among reiser and other partitions like Fat16, 32, ext2, NFS, etc, etc. Also I wanna know your opinion or experiences of ReiserFs' performance in comparison with ext2. Thanks a lot!!! Nicolas Gomez Montevideo, URUGUAY Just an opinion - I prefer ReiserFS for large file systems - I am using ReiserFS for my 22.5 GB /home partition. Reiser performs better. However I am using Ext3 for all my other partitions it is more stable (if that is possible) and more flexible in my opinion. I definately would not try to use Reiser yet with NFS or with a /boot partition. No one filesystem is the be all and end all, thats why its nice to be able to choose. Both Reiser and ext3 make FAT file systems look primitive by comparison.
[Cooker] ReiserFs and Fatx ???
Hi! I want to delete this ext2 partition and replace it for a ReiserFs partition with a 2.4.8 kernel on linux-mandrake 8.1... The things I want to know is the compatibility among reiser and other partitions like Fat16, 32, ext2, NFS, etc, etc. Also I wanna know your opinion or experiences of ReiserFs' performance in comparison with ext2. Thanks a lot!!! Nicolas Gomez Montevideo, URUGUAY
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFs and Fatx ???
Nicolas gomez wrote: Hi! I want to delete this ext2 partition and replace it for a ReiserFs partition with a 2.4.8 kernel on linux-mandrake 8.1... 1) THIS IS NOT COOKER! DONT POST TO COOKER LIST! The things I want to know is the compatibility among reiser and other partitions like Fat16, 32, ext2, NFS, etc, etc. Also I wanna know your opinion or experiences of ReiserFs' performance in comparison with ext2. 2) Reiser better perf than ext2 according to me and Sir BogoBench Thanks a lot!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicolas Gomez Montevideo, URUGUAY
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs as root filesystem
On Wednesday 24 October 2001 13:11, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: Reiserfs doesn't need to be checked normally no, but if you put a /forcefsck is should check it [root@cooker root]# ll /sbin/fsck.reiserfs lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 17 10:49 /sbin/fsck.reiserfs - ../bin/true* It does whatever /bin/true command does. Not even the enhanced version of true does filesystem checks yet. Just use ext3. 97k of executable at /sbin/fsck.ext3 means that they don't presume on perfect self-repair or build everything but the coffee maker into the fs. (-:
[Cooker] reiserfs as root filesystem
when you do a / filesystem is reiserfs touch /forcefsck the reboot, it does a filesystem check on the other filesystems, but does nothing on the rootfs. using -22mdk initscripts never runs a check on / filesystem Jorg
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs as root filesystem
Jorg, Reiserfs doesn't need to be checked unless your computer locks up. I ran it when I was using 7.2. Matthew D. Pitts - Original Message - From: Jorg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: [Cooker] reiserfs as root filesystem when you do a / filesystem is reiserfs touch /forcefsck the reboot, it does a filesystem check on the other filesystems, but does nothing on the rootfs. using -22mdk initscripts never runs a check on / filesystem Jorg
RE: [Cooker] reiserfs as root filesystem
Reiserfs doesn't need to be checked unless your computer locks up. I ran it when I was using 7.2. Matthew D. Pitts normally no, but if you put a /forcefsck is should check it [root@cooker root]# ll /sbin/fsck.reiserfs lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 11 Sep 17 10:49 /sbin/fsck.reiserfs - ../bin/true* It does whatever /bin/true command does. -andrej
[Cooker] reiserfs fixes from 2.4.9-ac14
Sounds sweet: o Clean up reiserfs flags usage (Nikita Danilov) o Fix reiserfs disk leak on crash case (Nikita Danilov) o Fix reiserfs mount option handling (Nikita Danilov) o Cosmetic reiserfs changes (Nikita Danilov)
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs fixes from 2.4.9-ac14
On Monday 24 September 2001 01:56, you, Borsenkow Andrej, wrote: o Clean up reiserfs flags usage (Nikita Danilov) o Fix reiserfs disk leak on crash case (Nikita Danilov) o Fix reiserfs mount option handling (Nikita Danilov) o Cosmetic reiserfs changes (Nikita Danilov) Now if they'd just for goodness' sake fix NFS on Reiser... -- Brad Felmey
[Cooker] ReiserFS
Can anyone tell me what version of ReiserFS went into RC1 of 8.1? Haven't pulled it and was wondering about file size limitations. Maybe ext3 would be a better choice. Greg
[Cooker] ReiserFS undelete util
Does anyone know of an undelete tool or mean for ReiserFS ? I just had a stupid typo in a shell command :-( -- Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS undelete util
On Aug 27 2001, 11:58 +, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Does anyone know of an undelete tool or mean for ReiserFS ? I just had a stupid typo in a shell command :-( -- Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html ---end quoted text--- From the RFS website: If you pay us a fee for his time, we can have Vitaly try to hand recover the files, assuming you haven't used the disk for writes. No guarantees, but it might be doable. There is no undelete feature, though maybe there ought to be. Somday we will have an fs editor that will make it feasible for average users to attempt such a thing, but today. (Hans Reiser) tom -- Tom Berger, Maintainer of MandrakeUser.Org, General Nuisance Since 1999 GPG-ID: 0x6AD65877 http://germany.keyserver.net/ Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it a bad sign if you spend the day wondering why there are no laws against what you do for a living? (Dilbert)
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS undelete util
Ainsi parlait Tom Berger : On Aug 27 2001, 11:58 +, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Does anyone know of an undelete tool or mean for ReiserFS ? I just had a stupid typo in a shell command :-( -- Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html ---end quoted text--- From the RFS website: If you pay us a fee for his time, we can have Vitaly try to hand recover the files, assuming you haven't used the disk for writes. No guarantees, but it might be doable. There is no undelete feature, though maybe there ought to be. Somday we will have an fs editor that will make it feasible for average users to attempt such a thing, but today. (Hans Reiser) The ReiserFs website gives a curious impression. It seems reading it is the only thing that is not (yet) charged for... Actually i had some success running a reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -scan-whole-partition /dev/mydev, getting 80% of my just deleted files back. However, it also fucked many of existing files, corrupting internal content or losing their properties, thus forbidding any more access. Hopefully, i backuped important things. So, recovering is possible. -- Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key http://bohm.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
Thierry Vignaud wrote: SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Should I disable writeback mode? safer but slower on writes :-) if you want, put a hdparm -W 0 /dev/hd[XYZ] in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local man hdparm says that write-caching is disabled by default. Grégoire
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: about reiserfs ate my /var partition, note that ext3 writeback mode where metadata only are journalized, you can still have old date or mix of old and new data in your files on remount after crash. ext3 ordered mode should be safer. but : note also that for eide disks, most of them works in writeback mode by default, ie the eide controller lye to the OS and say ok, it has just been written on the disk whereas it's only in the disk cache. so eide disks can lead to corruption dispite the medata journal. scsi disks should be safer here. there're also other hw problems than can lead to metadata corruption like the via bugs, the dma engine still writing do disk when the power is shoot down because it's powered longer than ram (ram needs to be refresh thousands times per second to keep its data), ... does the eide disk problem also affect reiserfs? eide writeback mode affects all fs : by saying ok it's writing whereas it's only cached, the eide disk/controller couple waits for mode I/O to do them more intelligently if they can order them, they can achieve better write performance but if a power problem or a kernel oops occurs, then you can lost your data since they're not yet written. this can break journaled fs since they rely on physically written metadata. but the odds are high you see data corruption before metadata corruption. Should I disable writeback mode? safer but slower on writes :-) if you want, put a hdparm -W 0 /dev/hd[XYZ] in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[Cooker] reiserfs formatting of hda7 failed
Fresh install of Beta 8.1scary chose recommended and couldn't get past the partitioning on the install. 'an error occurred' reiserfs formatting of hda7 failed. I have installed and reinstalled many times, but never have seen this message. ? -michael-
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
as far as eide hard drives is there not a bios setting to control that? --- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nima S. Panahi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have had mixed results. I tried to keep my mouth shut during the whole thread, but I can't any longer. I experimented with Reiser since 7.2. All it did was each my paritions and I think the VIA bug has something to do with it. But this was not a rare occation, it ate my /home and /var multiple times and on different machines (all three had some VIA chipset as I only use AMD). Then, the newer Reiser version cameout and changing the paritions to those helped but I still saw problems where it reported a directory to have 2 gigs of data in it when I only had 400 megs! I must have been smoking something, because for my server, I went all ReiserFS with the latest 8.0. I was doing a switch from the old server to a new one and in the excitement I forgot about my ReiserFS problems. I almost switch back as soon as I realized what I had done. However, I just bited down and did regular backups waiting for when it went south. IT NEVER DID! I hope I am not talking too soon, but for a few months it has been running w/o any problems. I would still waite for it to mature more or use XFS, which I have used in many of my desktops. IMHO anyways... about reiserfs ate my /var partition, note that ext3 writeback mode where metadata only are journalized, you can still have old date or mix of old and new data in your files on remount after crash. ext3 ordered mode should be safer. but : note also that for eide disks, most of them works in writeback mode by default, ie the eide controller lye to the OS and say ok, it has just been written on the disk whereas it's only in the disk cache. so eide disks can lead to corruption dispite the medata journal. scsi disks should be safer here. there're also other hw problems than can lead to metadata corruption like the via bugs, the dma engine still writing do disk when the power is shoot down because it's powered longer than ram (ram needs to be refresh thousands times per second to keep its data), ... reiserfs = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
does the eide disk problem also affect reiserfs? Should I disable writeback mode? --- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about reiserfs ate my /var partition, note that ext3 writeback mode where metadata only are journalized, you can still have old date or mix of old and new data in your files on remount after crash. ext3 ordered mode should be safer. but : note also that for eide disks, most of them works in writeback mode by default, ie the eide controller lye to the OS and say ok, it has just been written on the disk whereas it's only in the disk cache. so eide disks can lead to corruption dispite the medata journal. scsi disks should be safer here. there're also other hw problems than can lead to metadata corruption like the via bugs, the dma engine still writing do disk when the power is shoot down because it's powered longer than ram (ram needs to be refresh thousands times per second to keep its data), ... reiserfs = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
I have had mixed results. I tried to keep my mouth shut during the whole thread, but I can't any longer. I experimented with Reiser since 7.2. All it did was each my paritions and I think the VIA bug has something to do with it. But this was not a rare occation, it ate my /home and /var multiple times and on different machines (all three had some VIA chipset as I only use AMD). Then, the newer Reiser version cameout and changing the paritions to those helped but I still saw problems where it reported a directory to have 2 gigs of data in it when I only had 400 megs! I must have been smoking something, because for my server, I went all ReiserFS with the latest 8.0. I was doing a switch from the old server to a new one and in the excitement I forgot about my ReiserFS problems. I almost switch back as soon as I realized what I had done. However, I just bited down and did regular backups waiting for when it went south. IT NEVER DID! I hope I am not talking too soon, but for a few months it has been running w/o any problems. I would still waite for it to mature more or use XFS, which I have used in many of my desktops. IMHO anyways... On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Harry wrote: On 8/6/01 2:04 AM, Stefan Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since then I don't trust ReiserFS = I wouldn't install it currently on a critical system, only on playgounds for data loosing ... Depending on the nature of your electrical failure, no data is really safe if it is preceded by a spike while the drive writes to the disk. In general, I have found Reiserfs to be admirably reliable. Harry
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS
On 8/5/01 11:06 PM, Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh? It is default file system suggested by 8.0 install. What else do you mean under default filesystem? Hmmm... On my disk, ext2 is the default filesystems chosen by standard and expert install. On Expert I need to manually switch to ReiserFS. Not sure what you're using, but that's what I have. Harry
RE: [Cooker] ReiserFS
O.K. O.K. Last time I installed Mandrake from scratch was three months ago. For some reason I was sure it defaults now to reiser. I stay corrected. -andrej -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cooker-owner@linux- mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Harry Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:32 PM To: Mandrake Subject: Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS On 8/5/01 11:06 PM, Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh? It is default file system suggested by 8.0 install. What else do you mean under default filesystem? Hmmm... On my disk, ext2 is the default filesystems chosen by standard and expert install. On Expert I need to manually switch to ReiserFS. Not sure what you're using, but that's what I have. Harry
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
On 8/6/01 2:04 AM, Stefan Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since then I don't trust ReiserFS = I wouldn't install it currently on a critical system, only on playgounds for data loosing ... Depending on the nature of your electrical failure, no data is really safe if it is preceded by a spike while the drive writes to the disk. In general, I have found Reiserfs to be admirably reliable. Harry
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
Oh it can't be possible : yesterday someone had problems with ReiserFS, and this morning my ReiserFS / said no more space avaliable on device! The df command says unable the read the partition information ! seems like someone has putten a not funny virus in ReiserFS... /\ | José Jorge [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | TEKLYNX International http://www.teklynx.com | \/ Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: cooker-owner@linux-maSubject: Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var ndrake.com 06/08/2001 21:03 Please respond to cooker On Monday 06 August 2001 10:09 am, you wrote: On Mon Aug 06, 2001 at 04:07:18PM +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: This is really odd... I've been using reiserfs almost exclusively since 7.2 on all my machines. The only partition that I don't use it for is /var because I run qmail on all my machines and there was an issue with qmail and reiserfs in the past (no idea if it's fixed, but /var being ext2 is a matter of habit now). Anyways, I've had a number of power outtages despite having UPS's with the systems all of a sudden going down. I may have lost the odd file occassionally, but certainly never an entire partition. Considering this is on about 5 machines all showing the same thing, I'm a little hesitant to think it's reiserfs *alone*. Maybe there is something with the files on /var that causes this problem (again, maybe if I had reiserfs /var partitions I would have experienced the same thing, I don't know). I do know that I have never lost more than a handful of files and I've got many reiserfs partitions across various systems. Same here. I did loose two partitions on completetly different hard drives but tracked it down to hard drive controler failure. The only thing I can say about the failure is that the ext2 partitions survived it but reiser didn't However I run reiser on almost everything and this is the first time I've had a problem.
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
Es schrieb Borsenkow Andrej: On 8/3/01 2:21 PM, Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1- Is ReiserFS good enough nowadays for a production machine? Yes, in fact I use it on production machines with great success. I use it as well, but my systems are not mission critical :-) 2- Will it ever become the default filesystem for Mandrake? One can hope. I'm sure it will be made default after RedHat does so :-) Eh? It is default file system suggested by 8.0 install. What else do you mean under default filesystem? It killed my var partiton. When I did reboot my desktop machine after an electricity failure, my /var was gone. So I am currently left alone with a 8.0 WITHOUT any RPM support, as all relevant files reside there :-\ (In fact the whole system is relatively unusable without an intact /var, but most can be reconstructed, except the RPM-DB) As this was my first encounter with a power failure (and I was hoping the jounal would fix arising problems) I lost all data on the ReiserFS partition. Lucky me it was not /home with my (not yet finished) diploma thesis on it ... Since then I don't trust ReiserFS = I wouldn't install it currently on a critical system, only on playgounds for data loosing ... -- _ Tschüss und bis demnächst/à bientôt, _|_|_ () * Stefan /v\ / »( )« Penguin Powered! +(m-m)--+
RE: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
It killed my var partiton. When I did reboot my desktop machine after an electricity failure, my /var was gone. So I am currently left alone with a 8.0 WITHOUT any RPM support, as all relevant files reside there :-\ (In fact the whole system is relatively unusable without an intact /var, but most can be reconstructed, except the RPM-DB) What exactly do you mean? - it was not possible to mount /var? - it was possible to mount but /var was empty? - it was not entirely empty but some files were gone? Have you tried fsck it? -andrej
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
Es schrieb Borsenkow Andrej: It killed my var partiton. When I did reboot my desktop machine after an electricity failure, my /var was gone. So I am currently left alone with a 8.0 WITHOUT any RPM support, as all relevant files reside there :-\ (In fact the whole system is relatively unusable without an intact /var, but most can be reconstructed, except the RPM-DB) What exactly do you mean? - it was not possible to mount /var? Yes, boot pricess gave ma an error message (don't remember any more) and left me with a prompt. - it was possible to mount but /var was empty? It was unwilling to mount it (still don't remember error message). - it was not entirely empty but some files were gone? As it was unwilling to mount, I have no idea. Have you tried fsck it? After it was unwillint to mount it, yes. It repoted a lot of note cecking/fixing line (by the way it warned me several times that ReiserFsck is totaly unstable and might destroy everything before it was starting to check the partition ...). After that I was able to mount the partition again, but it was totally empty !!! :-( As a result I ran mke2fs on that partition, remounted it and created some directories to get able to start my system again. It was a nightmare (I thaught sometines I would be sitting on a Window$ system, as all my data went away with no possibility to get it back). As a result my laptop only runs a stable file system (aka ext2) and I never had such problems ... -- _ Tschüss und bis demnächst/à bientôt, _|_|_ () * Stefan /v\ / »( )« Penguin Powered! +(m-m)--+ | Stefan Siegel | http://www.student.uni-kl.de/~siegel/ | | Kurt-Schumacher-Str. 34 / App.144 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | D-67663 Kaiserslautern| PGP Public Key: | | Tel.: +49-631-18269 | finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +---+
RE: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
What exactly do you mean? - it was not possible to mount /var? Yes, boot pricess gave ma an error message (don't remember any more) and left me with a prompt. ... Have you tried fsck it? After it was unwillint to mount it, yes. It repoted a lot of note cecking/fixing line (by the way it warned me several times that ReiserFsck is totaly unstable and might destroy everything before it was starting to check the partition ...). After that I was able to mount the partition again, but it was totally empty !!! :-( There is an option rebuild tree (sorry, do not have access to Mandrake just now, cannot check exactly). I guess you have not tried it? I ask because I'm really interested in how to recover a broken ReiserFS. So far, I could not find any real information, looks like reiser developers assume it never goes wrong. Any pointers are appreciated. And of course, I can well understand your feeling about it ... -andrej
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
Es schrieb Borsenkow Andrej: [...] After that I was able to mount the partition again, but it was totally empty !!! :-( There is an option rebuild tree (sorry, do not have access to Mandrake just now, cannot check exactly). I guess you have not tried it? I did, as this was IIRC te only part doing anything, the other options all reported some errors but did nothing (still unable to mount afterwards). I ask because I'm really interested in how to recover a broken ReiserFS. So far, I could not find any real information, looks like reiser developers assume it never goes wrong. It seems so ... And of course, I can well understand your feeling about it ... Thx. I am sorry I can't provide you more informations, I've tried to wipe it out of my brian, as it is an awfull experiance, loosing relevant parts of an OS, specially when it is labeld rocksolid like GNU/Linux is these days ... -- _ Tschüss und bis demnächst/à bientôt, _|_|_ () * Stefan /v\ / »( )« Penguin Powered! +(m-m)--+
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
Am 2001-08-06, um 15:41:26 (+0200) schrieb Guillaume Cottenceau: Stefan Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] thesis on it ... Since then I don't trust ReiserFS = I wouldn't install it currently on a critical system, only on playgounds for data loosing ... The question is whether it ameliorates mean crash recovery on critical systems. Nornally journaling would go in the right direction, but there are still potential problems. Any filesystem you're using, you'll still want to do periodic saves on tape devices, or even replication. Sure in theory you are right. But ReiserFS don't seem to be stable enough (atleast for me) as on the _FIRST_ crash (Power failure on the whole PC) I had, it shrederd my data. ext2 sometime eats data too, I know - but only files - at least on my side it never killed whole partitions. I am hoping for ext3 as it works on top of ext2 afaik. -- _ Tschüss und bis demnächst/à bientôt, _|_|_ () * Stefan /v\ / »( )« Penguin Powered! +(m-m)--+
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
On Mon Aug 06, 2001 at 04:07:18PM +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: thesis on it ... Since then I don't trust ReiserFS = I wouldn't install it currently on a critical system, only on playgounds for data loosing ... The question is whether it ameliorates mean crash recovery on critical systems. Nornally journaling would go in the right direction, but there are still potential problems. Any filesystem you're using, you'll still want to do periodic saves on tape devices, or even replication. Sure in theory you are right. But ReiserFS don't seem to be stable enough (atleast for me) as on the _FIRST_ crash (Power failure on the whole PC) I had, it shrederd my data. ext2 sometime eats data too, I know - but only files - at least on my side it never killed whole partitions. I am hoping for ext3 as it works on top of ext2 afaik. This is really odd... I've been using reiserfs almost exclusively since 7.2 on all my machines. The only partition that I don't use it for is /var because I run qmail on all my machines and there was an issue with qmail and reiserfs in the past (no idea if it's fixed, but /var being ext2 is a matter of habit now). Anyways, I've had a number of power outtages despite having UPS's with the systems all of a sudden going down. I may have lost the odd file occassionally, but certainly never an entire partition. Considering this is on about 5 machines all showing the same thing, I'm a little hesitant to think it's reiserfs *alone*. Maybe there is something with the files on /var that causes this problem (again, maybe if I had reiserfs /var partitions I would have experienced the same thing, I don't know). I do know that I have never lost more than a handful of files and I've got many reiserfs partitions across various systems. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com Current Linux kernel 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin uptime: 10 days 22 hours 51 minutes. PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
[Snip] I am using reiserfs since 7.2, including /var. And I never had any problems with it. And we had more than one powerfailure ;). I am so confident with it that windows-user-method I sometimes just click on reset if the system seems to be hanging /windows-user-method Everytime it came up perfectly clear. From my expirience I would say that you loss of /var filesystem was not due to reiserfs but due to something else. But thats just IMHO. Take care, Andre P.S.: Even if you use reiserfs, never underestimate the power of Murphy! (Do backups)!
RE: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
I have 7 raiserfs system including 4 SMP 4 proc boxes and I have never had problem with any of them except with one old box which I'm still using as my firewall. The system would started corrupting volumes if I used 2.4 kernel with reiserfs. When installed with 2.2 kernel and reiserfs or 2.4 kernel with ext2 the box could tick for months. The system in question was old 120Mhz Pentium (no mmx) with 96 Mb memory and Adaptec 2940 Scsi Controller ( no -ide drives) Andrew Bielecki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelley Terry Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:09:45 -0600 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon Aug 06, 2001 at 04:07:18PM +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: This is really odd... I've been using reiserfs almost exclusively since 7.2 on all my machines. The only partition that I don't use it for is /var because I run qmail on all my machines and there was an issue with qmail and reiserfs in the past (no idea if it's fixed, but /var being ext2 is a matter of habit now). Ditto here. I've had nothing but reiser since on my machine since 7.2 and a few power outages and no problems. -- Kelley Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] It said use windows 95 or better so I loaded linux! In a world without walls or fences who needs windows or gates?
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
On Monday 06 August 2001 10:09 am, you wrote: On Mon Aug 06, 2001 at 04:07:18PM +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: This is really odd... I've been using reiserfs almost exclusively since 7.2 on all my machines. The only partition that I don't use it for is /var because I run qmail on all my machines and there was an issue with qmail and reiserfs in the past (no idea if it's fixed, but /var being ext2 is a matter of habit now). Anyways, I've had a number of power outtages despite having UPS's with the systems all of a sudden going down. I may have lost the odd file occassionally, but certainly never an entire partition. Considering this is on about 5 machines all showing the same thing, I'm a little hesitant to think it's reiserfs *alone*. Maybe there is something with the files on /var that causes this problem (again, maybe if I had reiserfs /var partitions I would have experienced the same thing, I don't know). I do know that I have never lost more than a handful of files and I've got many reiserfs partitions across various systems. Same here. I did loose two partitions on completetly different hard drives but tracked it down to hard drive controler failure. The only thing I can say about the failure is that the ext2 partitions survived it but reiser didn't However I run reiser on almost everything and this is the first time I've had a problem.
Many success stories (was: RE: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var)
Folks, you all miss the point. Nobody argues that ReiserFS has been used with success by many people. The problem is that if something goes wrong, Reiser gives very few chances to recover compared with other file systems (*especially* non-journaling). -andrej
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var
During the bombing raid on Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:09:45 -0600, Vincent Danen was heard mumbling in fear: On Mon Aug 06, 2001 at 04:07:18PM +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: thesis on it ... Since then I don't trust ReiserFS = I wouldn't install it currently on a critical system, only on playgounds for data loosing The question is whether it ameliorates mean crash recovery on critical systems. Nornally journaling would go in the right direction, but there are still potential problems. Any filesystem you're using, you'll still want to do periodic saves on tape devices, or even replication. Sure in theory you are right. But ReiserFS don't seem to be stable enough (atleast for me) as on the _FIRST_ crash (Power failure on the whole PC) I had, it shrederd my data. ext2 sometime eats data too, I know - but only files - at least on my side it never killed whole partitions. I am hoping for ext3 as it works on top of ext2 afaik. This is really odd... I've been using reiserfs almost exclusively since 7.2 on all my machines. The only partition that I don't use it Count me in as a happy reiserfs user, since somewhere in the 7.1 appearance (hand-patched into 2 7.0 servers and 3 workstations)...only had one problem, and that actually was due to the infamous VIA bug + the Reiserfs bug of a while back (chipset optimizations bug, I believe) that we tracked here in cooker...but no problems at all since nor before. And back then (it was during the road to 8.0) it was file corruption, never partition corruption...only thing that insisted on dieing was the rpm database whenever I installed 2 or more files at a time. Anyways, I've had a number of power outtages despite having UPS's with the systems all of a sudden going down. I may have lost the odd file My workstation has hadwell...enough power outtages...without any problems. occassionally, but certainly never an entire partition. Considering this is on about 5 machines all showing the same thing, I'm a little hesitant to think it's reiserfs *alone*. Maybe there is something with the files on /var that causes this problem (again, maybe if I had reiserfs /var partitions I would have experienced the same thing, I don't know). Nop, nothing to do with /var...I have everything under reiserfs and no problems at allso...I don't think it's a reiserfs+/var problem, but something else...maybe something like the qmail bug you mentioned. I do know that I have never lost more than a handful of files and I've got many reiserfs partitions across various systems. Counting 32 reiserfs partitions under my hand, most of them under stock mandrake kernels (have a suse box somewhere) Vox -- Pain is the gift of the gods, and I'm the one they chose as their messenger For info on safety in the BDSM lifestyle http://www.the-vox.com Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. Vox populi, vox deii
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS
On 8/3/01 2:21 PM, Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1- Is ReiserFS good enough nowadays for a production machine? Yes, in fact I use it on production machines with great success. 2- Will it ever become the default filesystem for Mandrake? One can hope. I'm sure it will be made default after RedHat does so :-) Harry
RE: [Cooker] ReiserFS
On 8/3/01 2:21 PM, Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1- Is ReiserFS good enough nowadays for a production machine? Yes, in fact I use it on production machines with great success. I use it as well, but my systems are not mission critical :-) 2- Will it ever become the default filesystem for Mandrake? One can hope. I'm sure it will be made default after RedHat does so :-) Eh? It is default file system suggested by 8.0 install. What else do you mean under default filesystem? -andrej
[Cooker] ReiserFS broken (!!!) with beta 3 and newest cooker kernel
This is a strange problem that I have explored ever since beta 3 came out. I am not sure if it exited before beta 3, since I did not test it as much as I have now, but it could have. Anyway.. on with the problem. Reiserfs brakes bad with the kernel that came with beta 3 and even the newer cooker 2.4.3-17mdk. It almost randomly seems to hang while accessing reiserfs filesystems and refuses to do anything. The ONLY solution is the reset button. It FOR SURE hangs when creating/accessing files larger than 2.0G and many files under /usr/share/doc. The files like /usr/share/doc "seem" to get away when I reformated the filesystem with the newer Reiserfs 3.6 (it was 3.5 before). However, the only way to get hanging problem solved (especially with large files) is to use kernels that are lower than or equal to the one shipped with 8.0 beta 2. Anyone have ANY idea what is going on? TIA.
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS broken (!!!) with beta 3 and newest cookerkernel
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Nima S. Panahi wrote: This is a strange problem that I have explored ever since beta 3 came out. I am not sure if it exited before beta 3, since I did not test it as much as I have now, but it could have. Anyway.. on with the problem. Reiserfs brakes bad with the kernel that came with beta 3 and even the newer cooker 2.4.3-17mdk. It almost randomly seems to hang while accessing reiserfs filesystems and refuses to do anything. The ONLY solution is the reset button. It FOR SURE hangs when creating/accessing files larger than 2.0G and many files under /usr/share/doc. The files like /usr/share/doc "seem" to get away when I reformated the filesystem with the newer Reiserfs 3.6 (it was 3.5 before). However, the only way to get hanging problem solved (especially with large files) is to use kernels that are lower than or equal to the one shipped with 8.0 beta 2. Anyone have ANY idea what is going on? TIA. You may go to www.mail-archive.com to search for older discussion on cooker list, there was a HUGE amount of complaining and discussion about this 'glitch'. Abel Cheung
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS broken (!!!) with beta 3 and newest cookerkernel
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Nima S. Panahi wrote: Ok ok.. So I appoligize. As I sent this, I started reading the thread that talks about VIA and reiserfs. I still need some explaining thought. I don't see why the older kernels work fine and only the newer kernels have problems? You can find what you want here: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-04-13-007-21-PS-HW-KN Abel Cheung
[Cooker] reiserfs issue
I just got a new 75GB hard drive and poped it in my machine. I ran fdisk to create the partition, then ran "mkreiserfs /dev/hdc1". It formated ok. But, when I mount the drive, I get: # mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdc1 /disk2 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, or too many mounted file systems anyone know what is wrong? I am using Cooker with all the latest packages up to March 27th. I have done this same process on other machines and it worked fine. Thanks, Bryan Opfer
[Cooker] ReiserFS and incoming kernel...
Hi all! I know that Mandrake 8.0 is in beta stage now, so many packages are fixed, but I think that the incoming kernel (2.4.3) will have some interesting improvements about two important things that I daily use, and not only me I suppose... I can read The first pre-patch of the 2.4.3 linux kernel is available to download from www.kernel.org or from your favorite mirror site. -pre1: - Chris Mason: reiserfs, another null bytes bug - Andrea Arkangeli: make SMP Athlon build - Alexander Zarochentcev: reiserfs directory fsync SMP locking fix - Jeff Garzik: PCI network driver updates - Alan Cox: continue merging - Ingo Molnar: fix RAID AUTORUN ioctl, scheduling improvements Do you think that we will have kernel 2.4.3 in 8.0 or is it too late? :o( Have a nice sunday, Claudio
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and incoming kernel...
Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all! I know that Mandrake 8.0 is in beta stage now, so many packages are fixed, but I think that the incoming kernel (2.4.3) will have some interesting improvements about two important things that I daily use, and not only me I suppose... I can read The first pre-patch of the 2.4.3 linux kernel is available to download from www.kernel.org or from your favorite mirror site. -pre1: - Chris Mason: reiserfs, another null bytes bug - Andrea Arkangeli: make SMP Athlon build - Alexander Zarochentcev: reiserfs directory fsync SMP locking fix - Jeff Garzik: PCI network driver updates - Alan Cox: continue merging - Ingo Molnar: fix RAID AUTORUN ioctl, scheduling improvements Do you think that we will have kernel 2.4.3 in 8.0 or is it too late? :o( we use ac patches which it's keep synced with 2.4.3pre? -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and NFSv3 together in LM 8.0?
OK, I haven't really been following the cooker/LM8.0 stuff too well, and I couldn't find any reference in the archives about whether the new release is expected to support ReiserFS and NFSv3 (or even v2 for that matter) together out of the box or not. Yup, we have tested the patches on our developement machines (which use to fail with the default kernel). So, will we finally be able to install a Linux server with NIS, NFS, and a journalizing filesystem without having to get too deep into the guts of the OS? yup that's the goal :) OK, how about samba, too. My ultimate goal would be to use a single server which is the NIS domain server and NFS server for the Unix workstations plus act as the Windows Primary Domain Controller which serves home directories to the windows clients. Naturally, all on a ReiserFS. I've managed to get that all working on a L-M 7.0 box, but it took some time to convince everything to play nice, and it still has inexplicable crashes once every few weeks. I'm not afraid of it, but I can't leave it in the hands of an inexperienced system admin. Thanks, Michael
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and NFSv3 together in LM 8.0?
"Michael R. Batchelor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, how about samba, too. My ultimate goal would be to use a single server which is the NIS domain server and NFS server for the Unix samba touch to the kernel ? noip.. see with sylvestre([EMAIL PROTECTED]) maintainners of samba package. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
[Cooker] ReiserFS and NFSv3 together in LM 8.0?
OK, I haven't really been following the cooker/LM8.0 stuff too well, and I couldn't find any reference in the archives about whether the new release is expected to support ReiserFS and NFSv3 (or even v2 for that matter) together out of the box or not. Is this a planned/supported configuration? I know I can get it working if I apply the patches and compile a kernel, but I really want something I can just hand to someone without a lot of experience, walk them through a few, and expect them to get it right with only telephone support. So, will we finally be able to install a Linux server with NIS, NFS, and a journalizing filesystem without having to get too deep into the guts of the OS? And if this is answered on the mandrakeforum site forgive me. Thanks, Michael PS. How about the qmail patches for Reiser? Any chance of supplying both qmail and the patch in an rpm we can select? I know the qmail license is a little stifling, but you could make the user run a separate program to install the patch.
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and NFSv3 together in LM 8.0?
"Michael R. Batchelor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, I haven't really been following the cooker/LM8.0 stuff too well, and I couldn't find any reference in the archives about whether the new release is expected to support ReiserFS and NFSv3 (or even v2 for that matter) together out of the box or not. Yup, we have tested the patches on our developement machines (which use to fail with the default kernel). So, will we finally be able to install a Linux server with NIS, NFS, and a journalizing filesystem without having to get too deep into the guts of the OS? yup that's the goal :) PS. How about the qmail patches for Reiser? Any chance of supplying both qmail and the patch in an rpm we can select? I know the qmail license is a little stifling, but you could make the user run a separate program to install the patch. we don't ship qmail, licensing problems.. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] Reiserfs and Cooker
On Tuesday 20 February 2001 20:26, Ruairi Hickey wrote: Doing an install with Sunday's cooker and setting the / partition to be reiserfs after boot I get a no root device on 80:5 (0805 ?).. Does the 2.4.1-16 kernel support reiserfs root partitions ? ( Ruairi I did another install today (Sunday 25th) with an updated cooker and had the same results.. I have yet to get cooker to boot off of reiserfs... ext2 works just fine I can boot into my 7.2 and mount the partitions without a problem Where do I start to try figure out what's causing this... Hardware is a Dell WorkStation 410, UW AIC7890 scsi on module AIC7xxx with 2 hard drives... The cooker drive has a 2gb windows partition followed be 3gb reiserfs / and 3gb reiserfs /home and swap. Ruairi
Re: [Cooker] Reiserfs and Cooker
Ruairi Hickey wrote: Doing an install with Sunday's cooker and setting the / partition to be reiserfs after boot I get a no root device on 80:5 (0805 ?).. Does the 2.4.1-16 kernel support reiserfs root partitions ? ( Ruairi Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 Have you checked for the initrd image, mandrake doesn't compile reiserfs support as part of the kernel, rather was a module. I have noticed that some mandrake cooker kernel rpms make the initrd image and modify lilo/ grub automagically, others don't.
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs
When you install just choose reiserfs as the partition type instead linux-native when partitioning with diskdrake. On Thursday 22 February 2001 22:30, you wrote: is there any way to install mandrake (cooker) on reiserfs partitions? i know it is possible, what I am asking for is the steps thanks, chris campbell -- Jason Straight
[Cooker] reiserfs
is there any way to install mandrake (cooker) on reiserfs partitions? i know it is possible, what I am asking for is the steps thanks, chris campbell
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and NFS revisited
Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems that SuSE has a solution for nonworking NFS under ReiserFS: http://lists.sourceforge.net/pipermail/nfs/2000q3/002396.html solution is not really the answer they use unfsd when we use knfs which allow NFSV3, Jeff is working on the NFS problem. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
[Cooker] Reiserfs and Cooker
Doing an install with Sunday's cooker and setting the / partition to be reiserfs after boot I get a no root device on 80:5 (0805 ?).. Does the 2.4.1-16 kernel support reiserfs root partitions ? ( Ruairi Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
Re: [Cooker] Reiserfs and Cooker
Ruairi Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doing an install with Sunday's cooker and setting the / partition to be reiserfs after boot I get a no root device on 80:5 (0805 ?).. Does the 2.4.1-16 kernel support reiserfs root partitions ? ( yes it does, i have just installed in cooker with full reiserfs without any problem.. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] Reiserfs and Cooker
I don't think so. Looks like the kernel module isn't loaded until a filesystem in /etc/fstab is accessed. I also tried to make my root partition with reiser and got the same results. Ruairi Hickey wrote: Doing an install with Sunday's cooker and setting the / partition to be reiserfs after boot I get a no root device on 80:5 (0805 ?).. Does the 2.4.1-16 kernel support reiserfs root partitions ? ( Ruairi Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Reiserfs and Cooker
James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Either it was fixed over the weekend and the installer fix hadn't percolated out to us, that should be the reason. -You didn't install the standard 2.4.x kernel, you installed the 2.2.x kernel or perhaps even the 2.4.1-linus version of the kernel (though I doubt that). you take me for a newbie ? -There is some bug that we tripped over and you didn't. I believe I did a very vanilla install that time, because I was already suspicious that reiserfs wouldn't boot with 2.4.1, having tried copying my root fs to a reiserfs fs and booting late 2.3.x kernels, and failed at it for reasons I've yet to understand. i'll check with new install, got to fix a nfs+reiserfs problem before... -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] Reiserfs and Cooker
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Ruairi Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doing an install with Sunday's cooker and setting the / partition to be reiserfs after boot I get a no root device on 80:5 (0805 ?).. Does the 2.4.1-16 kernel support reiserfs root partitions ? ( yes it does, i have just installed in cooker with full reiserfs without any problem.. I saw the same problem as Ruairi this weekend, up to date as of st least Saturday night. So there are three possible explanations I see for it working for you... -Either it was fixed over the weekend and the installer fix hadn't percolated out to us, -You didn't install the standard 2.4.x kernel, you installed the 2.2.x kernel or perhaps even the 2.4.1-linus version of the kernel (though I doubt that). -There is some bug that we tripped over and you didn't. I believe I did a very vanilla install that time, because I was already suspicious that reiserfs wouldn't boot with 2.4.1, having tried copying my root fs to a reiserfs fs and booting late 2.3.x kernels, and failed at it for reasons I've yet to understand. James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- People seek to feel better immediately and, to accomplish that, they yield to temptations even when doing so may be contrary to their long-term best interests and...goals. -Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 2001;80:53-67 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Cooker] ReiserFS and NFS revisited
Theres a problem with NFS and ReiserFS?? I've been running two Linux boxes with ReiserFS, sharing /home between them with no problems for some months now. What sort of problem should I be expecting...? [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prana It seems that SuSE has a solution for nonworking NFS under ReiserFS: http://lists.sourceforge.net/pipermail/nfs/2000q3/002396.html
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and NFS revisited
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:40:51PM -0700, Prana wrote: It seems that SuSE has a solution for nonworking NFS under ReiserFS: http://lists.sourceforge.net/pipermail/nfs/2000q3/002396.html Good luck! b. -- Brian J. Murrell
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and NFS revisited
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Re: [Cooker] reiserfs and chattr
Not for now, I had a glimpse of reiserfs devel list, and it is said that fixing bugs is still the primary concern for the developers. They promised they'll consider extended attributes later though... Abel Cheung On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Prana wrote: So far, not yet. I don't know about XFS though.. it seems to me that XFS is much more advanced since it's been used in IRIX for 6 years, thus it's mature and stable. Xavier Bertou wrote: Hi, is there some kind of chattr for reiserfs ? I really need a journalized file system but with the possibility of doing chattr +i dans chattr +d. Any way to have the same behaviour ? -- Xavier
[Cooker] reiserfs and chattr
Hi, is there some kind of chattr for reiserfs ? I really need a journalized file system but with the possibility of doing chattr +i dans chattr +d. Any way to have the same behaviour ? -- Xavier
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs and chattr
So far, not yet. I don't know about XFS though.. it seems to me that XFS is much more advanced since it's been used in IRIX for 6 years, thus it's mature and stable. Xavier Bertou wrote: Hi, is there some kind of chattr for reiserfs ? I really need a journalized file system but with the possibility of doing chattr +i dans chattr +d. Any way to have the same behaviour ? -- Xavier -- Prana [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyest.org My GnuPG Key ID: 0x33343FD3 (2000-07-21) Key fingerprint = F1FB 1F76 8866 0F40 A801 D9DA 6BED 6641 3334 3FD3 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x33343FD3
[Cooker] reiserfs
Hrm I heard somewhere Kernel 2.4 doesn't support ReiserFS. Ravenhall 2.4 supports reiserfs just peachily. For some reason that I don't understand you can't read a 2.4-created reiserfs partition with a 2.2 patched kernel, but 2.4 can read 2.2-created partitions. 2.4.0 doesn't support reiser as downloaded, but can be patched using patches obtained from reiserfs.org. (I'm speaking about kernel sources, not Mandrake packages. I prefer to roll my own kernel). As of 2.4.1-pre4 (ish) reiserfs support is included in the standard kernel, and is in 2.4.1 final which was released yesterday. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS
Aurelien Jarno wrote: I have just changed my root partition (which contains /boot) to ReiserFS, on a Mandrake cooker 7.2 updated with cooker, and I have two problems. The first one concerns grub. I have the following message at boot time: grub loading stage 2 failed line 426 Fortunately the boot works well with lilo. The second problem appears when I shutdown my computer. Just after the "Unmounting filesystems", I have about 20 messages like that, with differents inodes numbers: clm6005: writing inode 57 on readonly FS Note that I use ReiserFS on my home partition since about one month without having this problem. Any clue ? I don't know if reiser works with grub, you need lilo = 0.2.6 the indoe thing is fixed in like 2.4.1 pre 5, I don't think that the messages are harmfull but I am not positive.
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS
Le Samedi 20 Janvier 2001 20:57, vous avez crit : Aurelien Jarno wrote: I have just changed my root partition (which contains /boot) to ReiserFS, on a Mandrake cooker 7.2 updated with cooker, and I have two problems. The first one concerns grub. I have the following message at boot time: grub loading stage 2 failed line 426 Fortunately the boot works well with lilo. The second problem appears when I shutdown my computer. Just after the "Unmounting filesystems", I have about 20 messages like that, with differents inodes numbers: clm6005: writing inode 57 on readonly FS Note that I use ReiserFS on my home partition since about one month without having this problem. Any clue ? I don't know if reiser works with grub, you need lilo = 0.2.6 the indoe thing is fixed in like 2.4.1 pre 5, I don't think that the messages are harmfull but I am not positive. Ok I am now back to ext2fs for my root partition for more security. I don't like very much this type of messages :)
[Cooker] ReiserFS
I have just changed my root partition (which contains /boot) to ReiserFS, on a Mandrake cooker 7.2 updated with cooker, and I have two problems. The first one concerns grub. I have the following message at boot time: grub loading stage 2 failed line 426 Fortunately the boot works well with lilo. The second problem appears when I shutdown my computer. Just after the "Unmounting filesystems", I have about 20 messages like that, with differents inodes numbers: clm6005: writing inode 57 on readonly FS Note that I use ReiserFS on my home partition since about one month without having this problem. Any clue ?
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
"Ian C. Sison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These patches are suppsed to be included in 2.2.18, which i doubt was included in Chmouel's 2.2.17-21mdk series, right? yup[1] Footnotes: [1] not proud of it i would say, but it was too late to include it. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
These patches are suppsed to be included in 2.2.18, which i doubt was included in Chmouel's 2.2.17-21mdk series, right? On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Bryan Whitehead wrote: As long as you have NFS patches installed on your kernel your OK. If not NFS will be a total dog / broken with reiserfs. goto http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ to get the nfs patches... On 21 Oct 2000, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Ian C. Sison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone on the list using reiser with NFS? It's really sketchy from the wreiser website if it's safe to use it with NFS or not. What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? Yes, our main machine is using reiserfs and there are many NFS mounts on it. -- --- Bryan Whitehead Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WorkE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
As long as you have NFS patches installed on your kernel your OK. If not NFS will be a total dog / broken with reiserfs. goto http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ to get the nfs patches... On 21 Oct 2000, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Ian C. Sison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone on the list using reiser with NFS? It's really sketchy from the wreiser website if it's safe to use it with NFS or not. What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? Yes, our main machine is using reiserfs and there are many NFS mounts on it. -- --- Bryan Whitehead Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WorkE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
Exactly what is the "strange thing" ? ; could it be that its not entirely related to reiser but is really an NFS problem? Well my "strange thing" invloved the client (the machine mounting NFS from a NFS/Reiserfs) having 5min lockups... get the nfs patches and It goes away (so i'm told). What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? no sorry i can't manage to support a set of 20kernel I understand. I dunno how stable ext3 is as well. -- --- Bryan Whitehead Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WorkE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
"Brian J. Murrell" wrote: Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? Yes, including on install (just set the partition type to ``Reiserfs'' and it all works). I've not lost a partition yet and some of the machines I've installed with it get very clumsily treated. Two caveats, Reiser will not format tiny (16MB) partitions such as are often used for /boot (in which case use ext2 and mount it readonly) and you lose quota support and a few other things on the Reiser partitions. -- Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue.
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
"Ian C. Sison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone on the list using reiser with NFS? It's really sketchy from the wreiser website if it's safe to use it with NFS or not. What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? Yes, our main machine is using reiserfs and there are many NFS mounts on it. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
"Ian C. Sison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone on the list using reiser with NFS? It's really sketchy from the wreiser website if it's safe to use it with NFS or not. We have a 100GB server here via nfs and reiserfs which works almost fine (but some time it does strange thing). What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? no sorry i can't manage to support a set of 20kernel -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, you wrote: "Ian C. Sison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone on the list using reiser with NFS? It's really sketchy from the wreiser website if it's safe to use it with NFS or not. We have a 100GB server here via nfs and reiserfs which works almost fine (but some time it does strange thing). Exactly what is the "strange thing" ? ; could it be that its not entirely related to reiser but is really an NFS problem? What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? no sorry i can't manage to support a set of 20kernel I understand. I dunno how stable ext3 is as well.
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
"Ian C.Sison" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exactly what is the "strange thing" ? ; could it be that its not entirely related to reiser but is really an NFS problem? no related to a big server with very high level acess What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? no sorry i can't manage to support a set of 20kernel I understand. I dunno how stable ext3 is as well. i don't believe much more than reiserfs. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org Paris, France --Chmouel
[Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? b. -- Brian J. Murrell
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, you wrote: Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? b. yep - and have been for some time.
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
So sprach Brian J. Murrell am Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:45:46AM -0700: Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? Yes, no problems here with 2.2.17-21mdk. Am using it since ~1yr. Never had any troubles at all. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
"Brian J. Murrell" wrote: Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? /me puts hand up. works fine -WBD
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Warren Doney wrote: "Brian J. Murrell" wrote: Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? /me puts hand up. works fine ReiserFS is fine for me. I just wish I could say the same for Mandrake (release, not beta), which missed out the small detail of installing a kernel... James.
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
Yes it works. I use it. I'd recomend against it though. It's not fast, is still not production quality, and unless your system is crashing all the time its unneeded On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? b. --- Bryan Whitehead Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WorkE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
Anyone on the list using reiser with NFS? It's really sketchy from the wreiser website if it's safe to use it with NFS or not. What i know is that ext3 and NFS _are_ compatible. Can't Mandrake include a kernel with ext3 also included? On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach Brian J. Murrell am Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:45:46AM -0700: Is anyone successfully using Reiserfs? Yes, no problems here with 2.2.17-21mdk. Am using it since ~1yr. Never had any troubles at all. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ: 7328191
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs? anyone?
from the quill of Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] on scroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, no problems here with 2.2.17-21mdk. Am using it since ~1yr. Never had any troubles at all. Lots of people seem to be using it no problem. Anyone on the hackkernel? b. -- Brian J. Murrell
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and Norton Disk Doctor
Warren Doney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warly wrote: Does anyone has experienced a reiserFS partition format using Norton Disk Doctor ? thx -- Warly I could *try* it, as I am about to reinstall anyway - you would have to be more clear about what imformation you want though some people report that using Norton Disk Doc reformat reiserFS partition. Norton cannot reproduce, though, so I am wondering if there is a problem or not. Just try to use disk doctor, I do not know this soft, but it should have some kind of automatic check and repair disk function. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS and Norton Disk Doctor
Warly wrote: [.] some people report that using Norton Disk Doc reformat reiserFS partition. Norton cannot reproduce, though, so I am wondering if there is a problem or not. Just try to use disk doctor, I do not know this soft, but it should have some kind of automatic check and repair disk function. NDD is like graphic fsck for DOS/FAT - works fine with ReiserFS for me. I have 4 logical partitions /2.5GB FAT32/130MB Linux swap/2.5GB ReiserFS/1GB ext2. AFAICT it dose not even see ReiserFS when it does automatic fsck from Windows crash, or when run inside Windows, or when run from CDROM boot in DOS. So my Partition table MBR was checked 6x by this software no problems were reported. Maybe Problem is with the way people set up ReiserFS - sorry, can't help with that - I just know to click some buttons at install :) -WBD
[Cooker] ReiserFS and Norton Disk Doctor
Does anyone has experienced a reiserFS partition format using Norton Disk Doctor ? thx -- Warly
[Cooker] Reiserfs and hd.img
Can anyone here give me detailed instructions on how to create my own install disk so that I may put the reiserfs on properly (i created a monlific kernel image and used that to install this snapshot but things are kinda screwy at the momment)... or is there a website with instructions on how to make the install disks from scratch? -DarkWlf
[Cooker] reiserfs and mdk7.2
I formatted my largest partition under mdk 7.1 with reiserfs giving it the option to use the "rupasov" instead of the default "tea" hash. I cant get a self compiled 2.2.17 kernel (source from cooker) to mount this partition properly. Options to the kernel compile, or to the mount command seem to have no effect. The best I can get is that it will mount the partition, I can do an "ls" fine, but doing a "ls -l" complains that the files listed cant be found. What is the solution? Or is there a bug in mdk 7.2? -- - Antony Suter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Examiner" openpgp:71ADFC87 - "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"
[Cooker] ReiserFS+DAC960
Okay here's the latest. As was the case of Derek, if I compile ReiserFS in static everything work (with DAC960 as a module or static). If I put ReiserFS in as a module it crashes with the NULL pointer error. I'm using 2.2.16 source from the rpm. Is their anything you guys would like me to try or send you to help figure this out? Thanks! -Jason
