Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Marion

I can't speak to what happened in Tyrone with your family but I grew up 
in a  Scot-Irish community in Canada and what you described of the 
family, daughter and illegitimate child would be very typical of how 
they would be treated in our community. In my family and neighbours they 
were still like a Clan  while not obviously officially. Children who 
were related and some who were not but fell under the protection of the 
Clan were looked after by the family best able to care for them and keep 
them in the community. There was always people who wanted to cast 
aspirations on to those children and their mothers but the Clan 
depending on it strength, physical or financial or other wise protected 
them from the harm that might befall them. They were raised usually in 
the community as an open secret which was understood and was not held 
against them. However out side that group was a different and often less 
forgiving story. Many children were rejected when new wives came on the 
scene or outside influences over took the family who sheltered the 
child. At these points the child or mother would if possible move around 
the group looking for work and a home. If that was impossible then it 
was brutally hard on those individuals. For that reason you see the 
movement of young people in the records as you do. That is my experience 
living in a world with few social services and close family ties. It was 
I believe probably a very old and effective way of caring for people who 
were in effect defenseless in a cruel world looking for scapegoats...


Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2020-06-22 7:15 a.m., Marion via CoTyroneList wrote:

Elwyn,
Many thanks for all the information and suggestions. I have been trying to 
access the book you recommended , not very successfully, but I have found some 
journal articles he wrote, so I shall be busy reading.
I was interested in the view that couples mostly selected each other , as I 
have read elsewhere that marriage was more of a business matter with dowries 
being paid, and wondered how true this was. My own ancestors lived in the 
parish of Urney , in both Tyrone and Donegal. The Tyrone family were Church of 
Ireland and small farmers, and the men seemed to marry the daughters of 
neighbouring farmers, who were Presbyterians. I have wondered about the basis 
for their choice but it seems it was to do with demographics as much as 
anything. There were many daughters in the family ,some of whom married, some 
remained unmarried and others emigrated to America . Their lives seem to have 
been much more uncertain.
My Donegal ancestors were Presbyterians and distinctly Ulster Scots and fit 
your description of their patterns of marriage, with the same family names 
being linked repeatedly over the generations and the marriage of relatives 
often occurring. This seems to have declined in the beginning of the twentieth 
century.
My interest in illegitimacy was also related to an ancestor born out of wedlock 
in the Tyrone branch. The mother was the daughter of a small farmer whose wife 
had died when her children were very young. She disappeared from the records 
for a while but was obviously sent to St Johnstone in Donegal, as there is a 
baptism for her son recorded in Taughboyne Parish church in 1889. After this 
discreet birth she appears to have returned to the family although it is not 
clear what happened to her son. After her fathers death she continued there 
acting as housekeeper to her then unmarried brother. In 1901 she was still with 
her brother but looking at the inhabitants of another house on a neighbouring 
farm , owned by the family, her son, aged 11, is found lodging with them. By 
1911 he was back with his mother, her brother and his wife in the family home. 
This was obviously a caring family, (her father had left her well provided for 
in his will) but they must have been concerned about the stigma of 
illegitimacy. I was curious about this and wondered if it was an isolated 
example but from what you say families were often as supportive as possible.
Well thanks again for all your knowledgeable comments and your willingness to 
share.
Regards Marion

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Marion,
  
I suspect that a full answer to your interesting question could fill a hundred pages.
  
One source you might want to investigate is: “The Population of Ireland 1750 – 1845” by KH Connell, published in Oxford 1950. One of the many causes of the problems that plagued Ireland in the 1800s was the fact that there had been a massive population explosion. It went up from 3 million in 1741 to 8 million in 1841. (It’s only 6 million today).  No-one is entirely certain why. A reduction in neo-natal death rates was a factor. Connell also speculates that they started to marry younger and that consequently the reproductive rate 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McNutt /McCoy

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

ready been resident in British 
colonies for a minimum of five years. When he travelled to Ulster 
again in June 1762, armed with glowing testimonials from the 1761 
batch of emigrants (a common technique), he was aware very well of 
government reluctance, and issued a hastily-written advertisement 
which gave prospective emigrants only a matter of days to present 
themselves at the port of Derry. Still, he managed to recruit several 
hundred willing emigrants, though on arrival McNutt demanded more 
money for them, failing which he would send them to Philadelphia - 
which in any case had closed ties, maritime, mercantile and personal, 
with Derry, and many emigrants preferred to settle where they had 
fellow countrymen or relatives.


After 1762, McNutt withdrew somewhat from such emigration schemes, 
though by no means completely, chartering ships in 1763 and 1765 to 
sail from Derry to Nova Scotia, though he did not advertise this as 
forcefully as he had in 1761. Some historians have written that 
McNutt's achievement was surprisingly low in numbers, given that there 
many civic disturbances in western Ulster at the time. However, one 
facto which has been pointed to was rather a prevalence of indentured 
servants, who were far more likely to attain employments in the 
"middle colonies" than in the still sparsely-populated Nova Scotia.


"Colonel Alexander McNutt was an energetic and ambitious man. His 
energies accomplished much but his accomplishments have been dwarfed 
in history by the magnitude of his ambitions...all that remained were 
the disappointed dreams of a bitter man," wrote RJ Dickson. McNutt 
finally settled in Virginia, where he died.


Born:



1725

Died:



1811

Richard Froggatt

Acknowledgements:

Wesley McCann

Bibliography:

RJ Dickson: /Ulster Emigration to Colonial America 1718-1775/ (Ulster 
Historical Foundation); CJ Houston & WJ Smith: /Irish Emigration and 
Canadian Settlement Patterns, Links and Letters/ (Ulster Historical 
Foundation)


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Hi All

I am looking specifically for a McCoy family leaving Londenderry about
1760 going to Nova Scotia probably with Alexander McNutt group. He
placed ads in the Londenderry papers looking for settlers to move to
Nova Scotia. Between 1759 and 1761 he took charge of approximately 400
settler,. 350 in 1760 and about 50 more in 1761. Information on the
group might help me find information on my McCoy family leaving Ireland.
Intelligence about this group or others going to Nova Scotia in this
time period would be greatly appreciated.

cheers

Ron McCoy


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[CoTyroneMailingList] McNutt /McCoy

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Hi All

I am looking specifically for a McCoy family leaving Londenderry about 
1760 going to Nova Scotia probably with Alexander McNutt group. He 
placed ads in the Londenderry papers looking for settlers to move to 
Nova Scotia. Between 1759 and 1761 he took charge of approximately 400 
settler,. 350 in 1760 and about 50 more in 1761. Information on the 
group might help me find information on my McCoy family leaving Ireland. 
Intelligence about this group or others going to Nova Scotia in this 
time period would be greatly appreciated.


cheers

Ron McCoy


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McFadden (Ron McCoy)

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Hi Peter

I am very interested as well in  Wm. McFadden and the families who moved from 
Tyrone to Goulbourn however I have limited information on some of those 
families and hope to learn more myself. If you look on 
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/McFadden-2094 it will connect you to his page and 
the connections I have made to his regiment and references. If he is a relative 
or connection to James McFadden I would greatly appreciate you dropping me a 
line.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-12-21 1:00 p.m., Peter Hurley via CoTyroneList wrote:
I am  interested in the McFadden (Co. Tyrone) lines in Canada.
My ancestor, James McFadden, was reportedly born in Co. Tyrone (Cappagh Parish) 
between 1824-1831 but we have no documentation. James worked for the Hudson’s 
Bay Company from 1850 – 1858. He was a pioneer on Salt Spring Island, BC in 
1862. James died in Kamloops, BC in 1902.
Might he be the son of your ancestor, William McFadden?
Thanks.
Peter

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[CoTyroneMailingList] McFadden

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi

I apologize for being too slow and Lenn got ahead of me with the answer 
on Wm McFadden's of the 100th regiment. I hale from Goulbourn Twp where 
Wm and my relatives settled. We have a very helpful museum staff and a 
group of volunteers who study the 100th including a reenactment group if 
it is of any help to you? Our family owned land on the 7th concession 
and Wm would have received land on the 8th concession so in effect we 
would have been neighbours. Those who stayed in Goulbourn were a very 
close group and families were tightly related over the course of years. 
The 100th regiment had as I remember about 60 who were paid out in land 
in Goulbourn but 12 members specifically where from Tyrone who took up 
land in Goulbourn. They lived in fairly close proximity to one another 
in Tyrone and I suspect they knew each other or were at least aware of 
each other before joining. I have researched that group an would enjoy 
speaking to you about them.

Cheers

Ron McCoy



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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 539, Issue 2

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi

Can  you tell me what regiment he fought in in the War of 1812  in Canada? Do 
you know if was in the 100th regiment of foot? The name is familiar to me?

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-12-20 1:41 p.m., Josie Turbach via CoTyroneList wrote:
Re: CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Tyrone Volunteers: A
  List of Officers, 1805

This is great - is anyone aware of similar lists for the group that went to 
Canada to fight in the War of 1812 and/or a list of "enlisted men" (as opposed 
to officers).   My ancestor (William McFadden) is known to have come from 
County Tyrone to fight in that war and then he remained in Canada but none of 
us have been able to find any information about him before that / in Ireland.  
(your website has his obituary listed in the "born in Tyrone buried elsewhere" 
page).
thanks.

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Thanks Gordon. Off line another person who knows quite a bit about the 
British regimental service mentioned to me that the British army was 
fastidious about keeping track of the soldiers they

executed for desertion. They were this person said less likely to record 
a regular dissection. He felt if the soldier had been executed it would 
be clearly recorded in the records of the regiment almost certainly and 
would be a clue to knowing the fate of the possible family member.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-12-01 10:32 p.m., Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList wrote:
>
> Yes Ron, during the Irish wars of the mid 18thC there were many 
> deserters who joined the other side! It was a 2-way exchange too. 
> Depended on food, wages and the reliability of being fed, clothed and 
> housed than a particular loyalty.
>
> Gordon
>
> On 1/12/2019 8:51 pm, Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bruce
>>
>> I have done a fair amount of reading on regiments of the British army 
>> and particular the 100th reg of Foot. I would not assume that your 
>> ancestor was killed for desertion. It appears that desertion was a 
>> very common problem in the army with extremely high percentages of 
>> soldiers walking away from their duties. Depending on the situation 
>> and circumstances the sentences where quite mixed and seldom 
>> involving the death penalty. Often corporal punishment was the rule 
>> of law. I suspect if they illuminated every soldier who deserted for 
>> various reasons the British army would have been very much smaller.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ron McCoy
>>
>>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Bruce

I have done a fair amount of reading on regiments of the British army and 
particular the 100th reg of Foot. I would not assume that your ancestor was 
killed for desertion. It appears that desertion was a very common problem in 
the army with extremely high percentages of soldiers walking away from their 
duties. Depending on the situation and circumstances the sentences where quite 
mixed and seldom involving the death penalty. Often corporal punishment was the 
rule of law. I suspect if they illuminated every soldier who deserted for 
various reasons the British army would have been very much smaller.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-12-01 3:00 a.m., Bruce Newport via CoTyroneList wrote:
This is of interest to me.

My FULTON line’s earliest ancestor is William FULTON (1736-1791) buried St 
Patrick’s Church of Ireland, Gortin and his sons Thomas (1766-1797), John 
(1783-1860), of Droit, and David (1784-1863).

I assume the George FULTON, born about 1753 who deserted in 1780 would not have 
had a long life if, or after, he was captured.

Thank you.
Bruce Newport.


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Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 
1780

Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Altedesert Parish C of I Records and Pomeroy Presbyterian Records

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Hi Len

I am interested in the lists of all families in particular the McKee  and Evans 
family from Pomeroy Cavanakeeran up to and around  1838. As you have mentioned 
before records for that period are hard to come by. In the Church records 
section of Pomeroy below it mentions the Pomeroy tithe applotment book (1829)   
Index to Townlands and Towns, Parishes and Baronies in Ireland (1851) and 
Heather, Peat and Stone-O’Kane have been consulted in an attempt to confirm 
families and townland addresses.

How does one find these records? The site I used to access Tithe and Applotment 
books from are no longer available on line. Is there a new or alternative site? 
Would the other records (Heather, peat and Stone-o'Kane) you mention help me? 
Thanks for a wonderful site and great work.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-11-04 2:38 a.m., Len Swindley via CoTyroneList wrote:
Peter,
My thoughts are that you are looking at two different sets of records: it is 
perhaps rather easy to be confused.

My transcriptions for ALTEDESERT  
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/altedesert.html
and POMEROY https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/pomeroy.html
churches (as stated on the headers) are extracted from Civil Registration 
records which were filmed by the LDS in the 1960s. These are distinct from 
church registers.

The filmed records in PRONI, Belfast are of the actual Church Registers, so it 
is possible to locate two records for marriages: one religious and the other 
civil.

Many civil records are available online (with images from c1864) at 
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/altedesert.html

Good luck,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] ADAMS from Omagh, County Tyrone

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ere crippled. It wasn't quite
> so bad in Ulster because many labourers had linen weaving money to
> fall back on. That's a reason why the impact of the famine was  a
> little less in Ulster than in the rest of Ireland. (I don't have stats
> for Tyrone but according to Bill McAfee's website, in Ireland as a
> whole the population dropped by 20% between 1841 and 1851 but in Co.
> Antrim it only went down by 2%. I think for Ulster it was about a 5 or
> 7%% drop.I forget the exact number).
>
> If farming was well up the social order, you might wonder why farmers
> emigrated. I have touched on lack of security of tenure, and some were
> evicted (usually for non payment of rent), but a big driver was the
> normal practice of leaving the farm to the eldest son. Farms were
> sometimes subdivided, and some farmers managed to acquire two or more
> farms, which enabled them to leave a farm to more than one son, but in
> general the eldest son got the farm and the rest of the sons had to
> find their own way in the world. So they may have been farmers in
> Ireland but they didn’t have a farm of their own nor one to inherit
> and so migrated. And of course in both the US and Canada it was often
> possible to buy land outright or even acquire it for little cost with
> various land grant systems. So they were attractive pull factors for
> Irish farmers.
>
> I don’t know if this is what you wanted to know. Let me know if you
> have any other questions.
>
>
>
> Elwyn
>
>
> On 21/06/2019, Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList
>  wrote:
>> HI Elwyn
>>
>> In your response you say ," Only wealthier folk such
>>
>> as farmers and merchants could afford a gravestone." In our modern world
>> Farmers are not considered wealthy people in North America they are down the
>> cast system pretty far. Some of my family records in Tyrone or upon coming
>> to Canada they list themselves as being Farmers as opposed to Labourers or
>> servants or renters etc..like most of the other settlers here. Does them
>> listing themselves as Farmers mean something more then we take from it
>> today? Does it mean money or position in the 1830"s? Can you elaborate on
>> that for me if it does what would that entail for them and their families?
>> Cheers
>> Ron McCoy
>>
>> On 2019-06-21 8:33 a.m., elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList wrote:
>>> Darlene,
>>>
>>> You can use the Griffiths Valuation site to see where the surname
>>> Adams was found in Co Tyrone in 1860. There are 144 listed, right
>>> across the county. There were 223 Adams in the county in the 1901
>>> census.
>>>
>>> But the problem you really face is that hardly any parishes in Tyrone
>>> have any records for the mid 1700s and so even if you knew exactly
>>> where Thomas was born, there probably isn’t a documentary record of
>>> it.
>>>
>>> With regard to burials, it very much depends on what their trade was
>>> and again what denomination. Only the Church of Ireland routinely kept
>>> burial records, so if your ancestors were another denomination it’s
>>> unlikely that there will be any church records of their burials
>>> (assuming records exist in the first place). Only wealthier folk such
>>> as farmers and merchants could afford a gravestone, and the vast
>>> majority of people were buried without one. So it’s important to try
>>> and establish what their occupation was to assess the likelihood of
>>> there being a gravestone to find.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] ADAMS from Omagh, County Tyrone

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HI Elwyn

In your response you say ," Only wealthier folk such

as farmers and merchants could afford a gravestone." In our modern world 
Farmers are not considered wealthy people in North America they are down the 
cast system pretty far. Some of my family records in Tyrone or upon coming to 
Canada they list themselves as being Farmers as opposed to Labourers or 
servants or renters etc..like most of the other settlers here. Does them 
listing themselves as Farmers mean something more then we take from it today? 
Does it mean money or position in the 1830"s? Can you elaborate on that for me 
if it does what would that entail for them and their families?
Cheers
Ron McCoy

On 2019-06-21 8:33 a.m., elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList wrote:
> Darlene,
>
> You can use the Griffiths Valuation site to see where the surname
> Adams was found in Co Tyrone in 1860. There are 144 listed, right
> across the county. There were 223 Adams in the county in the 1901
> census.
>
> But the problem you really face is that hardly any parishes in Tyrone
> have any records for the mid 1700s and so even if you knew exactly
> where Thomas was born, there probably isn’t a documentary record of
> it.
>
> With regard to burials, it very much depends on what their trade was
> and again what denomination. Only the Church of Ireland routinely kept
> burial records, so if your ancestors were another denomination it’s
> unlikely that there will be any church records of their burials
> (assuming records exist in the first place). Only wealthier folk such
> as farmers and merchants could afford a gravestone, and the vast
> majority of people were buried without one. So it’s important to try
> and establish what their occupation was to assess the likelihood of
> there being a gravestone to find.
>
>
>
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[CoTyroneMailingList] McQuaid/McQuaide

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Hi Dorothy

This is likely no help to you but on the of chance I though I would include it. 
There are two McQuaid names in the hundred regiment  of Foot both named Mike 
one from Anghhlan and one from Kilskerry. One a school master and one a 
Labourer. They joined the regiment in 1812 and 1816 interestingly their names 
were spelled McQuaid and McQuaide I suspect to keep them separate. The Labourer 
Mike McQuaid was part of an immigration pattern to Goulbourn  and took a land 
grant in Ontario and the other Mike likely returned to Tyrone. If this is of no 
relation of yours possibly it might help someone else?

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-06-03 7:48 a.m., Len Swindley via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hello Dorothy,

Thanks for your message and am saddened that nothing has turned up re. your 
McQuaids; some forebears just don’t want to be found. Assuming that the 
McQuaids and Crosseys were Catholic, I referred to the online RC registers for 
Clonfeacle https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0199 and found the occasional 
McQuaid/ McQuade/McWade entry, but with the greatest difficulty – the quality 
of filming is poor, many entries impossible to read and townlands are not 
recorded in the baptismal registers. Your forebears may be there, but who would 
know. There are several McQuaids and Crosseys recorded in the 1833 Clonfeacle 
tithe applotment book; perhaps you connected them to your research or gathered 
data relevant to them for future use?

Best wishes,
Len


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Alexander Ferguson

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Hi Carmen

If the family is Presbyterian I have had success following the minister. The 
Presbyterians were closely linked to their pastor and records are pretty good 
for who served where. Whole congregations often moved with the pastor.  This 
may help you narrow your search to a specific area, time and place and group of 
people. This has been studied by several Thesis including Glenn Lucus excellent 
work on Presbyterians in Carleton County ,  Ottawa Canada and Rankin Sherling, 
Presbyterian Clerical migration, Queens University Kingston Ontario.. Good 
speed.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-04-09 3:44 p.m., W A Carmen Ferguson via CoTyroneList wrote:
Thank you Elwyn.

Alexander had four children –

John 1843-1927
James 1850-1901
Alexander Duff 1854-1856
Jane no idea

I have no record of when they were baptized. My Grandfather (John) married Mary 
Jane Bell (March 3, 1891 in Moneymore Second Presbyterian Church). She was born 
in 1861 in Mullaghtironey, Coagh, Co. Tyrone – I don’t know the month and day 
and died April 9, 1945. John and Mary Jane are both buried in Coagh 
Presbyterian Burying ground.  Interesting April 9 – that’s 74 years ago today; 
I actually walked behind her hearse at her funeral.

Thanks again for the information provided.

Carmen

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 2:37 PM elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList 
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wrote:
Carmen,

Statutory birth registration only started in Ireland in 1864, so you
won’t find a birth certificate for Alexander or Matilda. Prior to that
year you need to rely on church baptism records, where they exist.
Likewise for marriages, statutory marriage registration only started
in 1845 (for non RC marriages) and 1864 for RC.

Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church (after which she’d
usually attend her husband’s).  That they were buried in Coagh
Presbyterian is a hint that it was possibly Alexander’s family church.
And it might have been Matilda’s family church too.

If so, the news is not great. That church has no baptism records
earlier than 1839. It has marriages for 1820-1822 and then none till
1845.  If that is the church where they were baptised and married then
there don’t appear to be any surviving records.

Did the couple have any children, and if so do you know where they
were baptised?


Elwyn


On 09/04/2019, W A Carmen Ferguson via CoTyroneList
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wrote:
> My Great Grandfather Alexander Ferguson was born 1811 in Ballymoyle, Coagh,
> Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland and died the same place on June 13, 1887. I
> don’t know his month or day of birth.  He married Matilda someone (I
> believe Duff); she was born about 1808 but I don’t know where and died
> September 19, 1882. I also don’t know when they were married. They are both
> buried in Coagh Presbyterian Burying ground.
>
>
>
> Any help much appreciated
>
>
>
> Carmen Ferguson Ottawa, Canada
>

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Canadian Convicts on the HMS Buffalo to Australia 1839-1840

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Thank you so much for all your work transcribing and bringing the 100th/99th 
regiment to everyone's attention by transcribing these events. I have learned 
so much about my history from the Australian sites documenting the blight of 
those on the Buffalo. An excellent book on the Papeneau Rebellion and one of 
the few in English is The Patriot and the People the rebellion of 1837 by Allan 
Greer. The Papineau Rebellion had a lot of root causes but one which effects us 
is the influx of Scot/Irish into Quebec in and around the 1800's.

I continue to search the microfilm for more information on the 100th/99th reg 
in the Archives of Canada but it is slow going. I do find more information and 
will share it and the Tyrone connection as I can organize it.

Again thank you to Jim and to our Australian connections who have been so kind 
to share their knowledge and research.

ron McCoy


On 2019-03-04 6:49 a.m., Jim McKane via CoTyroneList wrote:
Canadian Convicts on the HMS Buffalo to Australia 
1839-1840

Jim McKane
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Do you know if there is a  Canadian Lecture tour and where and when it will be?

Ron McCoy

On 2019-03-02 6:20 p.m., Len Swindley via CoTyroneList wrote:

Hello Listers

ULSTER HISTORICAL FOUNDATION U.S. LECTURE 2019

The annual U.S. Family History lecture tour by Fintan Mullan and Gillian Hunt 
commences this week: These great events are recommended to anyone researching 
their Irish forebears. For full details of venues across the U.S. 
https://www.ancestryireland.com/

Locations:
09 March - Concord, 
NH
10 March - Philadelphia, 
PA
11 March - Chicago, 
IL
12 March - Madison, 
WI
 SOLD OUT
13 March - Green Bay, 
WI
14 March - Salt Lake City, 
UT
15 March - Salt Lake City, 
UT
16 March - Denver, 
CO
18 March - Pittsburgh, 
PA
19 March - Louisville, 
KY
20 March - Coeur d'Alene, 
ID
22 March - Valparaiso, 
IN
23 March - Tampa, 
FL
 - SOLD OUT
24 March - Fairfield, 
CT
25 March - New York City, 
NY
26 March - New York City, 
NY
The Ulster Historical Foundation, Belfast, is Ireland’s leading family history 
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] 100 th reg of foot tyrone

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Hi Jim

If I can find it from the Cdn Archives again is that OK to transcribe? I know 
that I found these documents there originally but am having trouble finding 
them again? These doc. on Ancestry.com are the documents that I saw a couple of 
years ago from the Archives in the public domain. Would ancestry have bought 
the right to copy them and the archives then take them off the public access? I 
obviously don't know how this copyright idea works of information. It seems odd 
to me that my families records would be copyrighted by Ancestry. I don't 
begrudge giving them money for information they make easily available but not 
to hold the records hostage.

Cheers

Ron

On 2019-02-25 8:02 a.m., Jim McKane via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hi Ron - I'd love you to transcribe them BUT we'd be in HUGE copyright legal 
problem with Ancestry.

Great idea BUT completely illegal.

Sorry
Jim

Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario


On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 6:32 AM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList 
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wrote:

Hi Jim
Below is the complete record of the 100th reg of foot war of 1812. It
took me some time to find it again and I was unable to refind in the
Archives but I did find it in Ancestry.com. There is approximately 800
names of the reg. and rough count 65 who are from Tyrone. This is a
complete list unlike the one in King and Canada which focus in on
Goulburn Twp. My relatives are in this group along with many interesting
other facts. This list is great because it lists where people came from
so Wm Vaughan came from Dublin and the parish of ST. Thomas. Is this of
interest? Would you want me to transcribe the Tyrone names? If so how do
you want them transcribed? While our interest is Tyrone you can see that
most of the regiment is made up of Ulster men hit hard by economic down
turn many Weavers.
https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/3253/40940_2000729172-00277?pid=94075=https://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D3253%26h%3D94075%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DUVS1401%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourcetrue&_phsrc=UVS1401&_phstart=successSource=true#?imageId=40940_2000729172-00277
Cheers
Ron McCoy
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[CoTyroneMailingList] 100 th reg of foot tyrone

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Jim
Below is the complete record of the 100th reg of foot war of 1812. It 
took me some time to find it again and I was unable to refind in the 
Archives but I did find it in Ancestry.com. There is approximately 800 
names of the reg. and rough count 65 who are from Tyrone. This is a 
complete list unlike the one in King and Canada which focus in on 
Goulburn Twp. My relatives are in this group along with many interesting 
other facts. This list is great because it lists where people came from 
so Wm Vaughan came from Dublin and the parish of ST. Thomas. Is this of 
interest? Would you want me to transcribe the Tyrone names? If so how do 
you want them transcribed? While our interest is Tyrone you can see that 
most of the regiment is made up of Ulster men hit hard by economic down 
turn many Weavers. 
https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/3253/40940_2000729172-00277?pid=94075=https://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D3253%26h%3D94075%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DUVS1401%26_phstart%3DsuccessSourcetrue&_phsrc=UVS1401&_phstart=successSource=true#?imageId=40940_2000729172-00277
Cheers
Ron McCoy
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Canadian Exiles to the Australian Colonies 1839-40

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Len

I have one word for this and it is ,"Wow", there is so much information here 
and the stories go so far with just a little research on line. I did not know 
that there was a list or an accounting of the rebels. The names and the 
rebellions are glossed over in Canada and little talked about. The influx of 
new settlers mostly Scottish or Irish into Quebec very much was seen as an 
invasion of sorts and did much to exasperate the existing problems. My own 
family from Tyrone probably unwittingly ( I hope) added to that problem. They 
very likely believed they were moving to a new settlement of Scotch/Irish 
Presbyterians in Canada and would escape the famines, prejudices and violence 
they faced in Tyrone. I see a number of histories for the 1840 Canadian 
prisoners on line from Australian source. Thank you so much for this 
information. I will have days of reading...

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-01-26 9:08 p.m., Len Swindley via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hello Listers,

Rather recently, Ron McCoy referred to Canadian Exiles transported to the 
Australian colonies 1839-40; the two websites contained in this posting may be 
interesting to researchers

There is a Fact Sheet http://www.guertin.info/patriots.pdf and a List of 
Canadian transportees despatched to the Australian colonies via the HMS Buffalo 
1839-40 comprising French Canadians from Lower Canada and American Patriots who 
had crossed the border 
http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/canadian.html

The Americans disembarked at Hobart, Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania) and the 
French Canadians from Lower Canada were sent to Sydney, New South Wales

Trust this is interest to CTI researchers in Canada
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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[CoTyroneMailingList] Prince Regent County of Dublin reg. 100th

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi All

This may be of interest to some. The 100th reg. of Foot was raised by  
Fredrick James Faulkner in 1804. While Faulkner estates were in the 
South many if not most of the members of the regiment came from Northern 
counties, Armagh, Cavan, Tyrone etc... There is approximately two dozen 
tyrone members of the regiment. They are listed in the Canadian Archives 
or from a book named "For  King and  Canada written by A. Barry Roberts. 
There is a number of excellent lists at the back of the book and the 
book itself is very good.

Cheers

Ron McCoy


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Irish Bally---ony

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cots immigrants have stamped their personality upon 
much of Ulster and have penetrated to all parts of Ireland. Scottish influence 
is still audible in some Ulster dialects and a vocabulary loaded with words 
like 'skunner', 'gunk', 'sleekit' and 'girn'. Scottish industry has brought 
prosperity to parts of Ulster but not to its bogs and barren wastes. The Scots 
did not introduce any revolutionary agricultural methods or implements though 
their two-eared Scotch spade gave the Irish the expression 'digging with the 
wrong foot'. Later came Scotch carts, ploughs and threshing machines. When the 
north-east of Ireland was relatively prosperous there were those who attributed 
that prosperity, and the success of the industries which provided it, to the 
Calvinism and special talents of the descendants of Scots settlers. Less is 
heard of such ideas in a period of economic decline. Geography and the 
emergence of entrepreneurs of genius like Harland and Wolff neither of them 
Ulster Scots - had more to do with nineteenth-century industrial success than 
religion or race. Yet, as a modern Scottish historian has observed, 'it is 
impossible not to suspect that Calvinist seriousness of purpose had some effect 
on both intellectual and economic life'.



  1.  As well as good farmers and businessmen the Ulster Scots have produced 
good doctors, teachers, preachers and engineers. If they have produced little 
great literature, their eighteenth-century vernacular poets can stand 
comparison with Burns himself. Perhaps inevitably, their best writers and 
scholars, like Helen Waddell and Lord Kelvin, have found fame outside Ireland. 
Their good grammar schools and Belfast's university, which, in its early days, 
owed much to Scottish models, reflect their respect for education. They have 
built neat, functional homes but few fine buildings, though John Wesley 
described the meeting-house of Belfast's First Presbyterian congregation as 
'the completest place of public worship I have ever seen'.



  1.  Commonly caricatured as a gloomy and silent bigot, the Ulster Scot is 
recognised by those who know him well as a loyal friend with a mordant sense of 
humour, critical of human pretensions and self-importance. He has not, as Henry 
Cooke claimed, 'brought peace and good order to a land of confusion and blood'; 
instead he has contributed his share to disharmony and conflict in Ireland, if 
only because he cannot compromise what he believes to be sacred principle, 
which others may see as self-interest. It may be significant that when, earlier 
this century, he sought a symbol with which to focus and express his opposition 
to Irish Home Rule, he found it in the great Scottish Covenants of the 
seventeenth century, originally devised to safeguard the purity of the 
Reformation in Scotland and in the British Isles. History and geography have 
combined to make Ulster as much a Scottish as an Irish 
province.[3]<https://mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.src=ym=myc_src=mail_trk=ma#_ftn3>



  1.  I came across this wee poem recently in Ballymena library, which probably 
sets out Scots-Irish ancestors feelings about their own identity and culture 
quite well. It was written in the 1800s by Samuel Thomson, a weaver poet who 
lived near Ballymena.  “To Captain MacDougall at Castle Upton.*”


I love my native land no doubt
Attached to her thro’ thick and thin
But tho’ I’m Irish all without
I’m every item Scotch within.

Thomson was one of a group of weaver poets, mostly self employed men who worked 
from home. They had strong connections with SW Scotland where their ancestors 
had mostly lived. Thomson was heavily influenced by Robert Burns, the master 
poet-ploughman, whom he met in Scotland at least once, and wrote in his 
vernacular style. He also composed a poem entitled “To a hedgehog” which was a 
reference to a military tactic employed at the Battle of Antrim in 1798 (a 
hedgehog being a formation of men) but anyone familiar with Burns work will 
immediately recognize the allusions to his poems “To a mouse” and “To a louse.”


* Castle Upton is a partially fortified house in Templepatrick. Built in 1611, 
I assume it was originally a Plantation Bawn.



Elwyn

[1]<https://mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.src=ym=myc_src=mail_trk=ma#_ftnref1>
 Autobiography of Thomas Witherow 1824 – 1890 Page 25. Ballinascreen Historical 
Society 1990
[2]<https://mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.src=ym=myc_src=mail_trk=ma#_ftnref2>
 A Kennedy chronicle – Biography of Alexander Kennedy of Ballycahan 1818 – 1885 
by Hugh Alexander Hezlett (Coleraine library)
[3]<https://mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.src=ym=myc_src=mail_trk=ma#_ftnref3>
 From the Appletree Press title: The People of Ireland (currently out of print).



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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Irish Bally---ony

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

I love that one I got to use that some time "Making a wigwam for a 
goose's bridle."Thanks Gordon

Ron McCoyy

On 2019-01-14 8:40 p.m., Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> Another I heard too often when enquiring what my Belfast mum was 
> doing: "Making a wigwam for a goose's bridle."
>
> Gordon
>
> On 14/01/2019 10:42 pm, Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList wrote:
>>
>> I heard these expressions and so many more oft repeated as a child 
>> and a young person growing up and sadly I took them for granted but 
>> wished in my heart I could hear them all again. They bring back great 
>> memories of kind and wise people, I miss them deeply...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ron McCoy
>>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Irish Bally---ony

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Hi Beverly

When I worked in Scotland in 1974 I took a couple of trips to Northern Ireland. 
When I went there the voices and accents I heard sounded very much like the old 
people I grew up with from around the Ottawa Valley Canada though they where 
four generations removed. The longer I was there the easier it was for me to 
slip into the way of speaking they had. People from Northern Ireland who just 
met me would place my home some where around Ballymoney. Today television and 
people making fun of anyone who is suppose to have an Irish accent has pretty 
much muted the lilt and phraseology of the Northern Irish in Canada and I 
suspect it has dampened it as well in native Ireland. I believe the voices 
would have been a mingling of the old Scottish language who came with the 
Undertakers to Ulster. So the language would not have been the same as later 
1800 Scottish, first because it was from an earlier age and it was separated by 
the Channel. Also it would very likely be co-mingled with Irish inhabitants who 
lived there as well. Together I suspect they had their own slang, phrases, 
stories and language short cuts used consistently by them but not the English 
or Scottish. The language would be a kind of Founders language. We hear that in 
Quebec today with people from some regions  who still speak very old form of 
French. That would be my guess.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2019-01-14 2:45 p.m., Beverley Ballantine via CoTyroneList wrote:
Are these sayings, and lilting voices, of native Gaelic origin?  Or are they 
Scottish?  I would like to know how a mid 19th century Tyrone Scots-Irish 
person sounded like when first in America.  Thank you and great transcription 
work.
Beverley Ballantine

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On Jan 14, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList 
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Love that "Paper never refuses ink …" Very applicable today with revision: 
"The internet never refuses a keystroke …"

Rick Smoll


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My mom and dad used folk expressions liberally, my mom being more guilty then 
my dad but by far the greatest offender was my neighbour who was a wealth of 
folk expressions. She is now gone and sadly her expressions have not been 
recorded but I am sure would have filled volumes. These I believe were handed 
down generation after generation. One of my favorites was used to deflate my 
budding but inflated educational ego. I would be explaining to her some great 
scientific break through I had just learned at school and she would look at me 
with kind but skeptical eyes and say, " how do you know that." and I would say 
I read it in a text book to which she would simply reply, " Ah well, Paper 
never refuses ink. Now does it?" On the same vein my father would simply say to 
me ," Do you know that for a fact Mr. McCoy or did some one just tell you 
that?" When it was said with that deep and melodic Ottawa Valley accent which 
was in reality a Northern Ireland lilt one could not be truly offended. I heard 
these expressions and so many more oft repeated as a child and a young person 
growing up and sadly I took them for granted but wished in my heart I could 
hear them all again. They bring back great memories of kind and wise people, I 
miss them deeply...
Cheers
Ron McCoy
On 2019-01-13 10:33 p.m., Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hi Listers,
As a kid in Belfast, I was intrigued by so many Irish place names starting in 
Bally... Those who know tell me it's derived from the Gaelic 'Baile na', 
meaning 'place of'. My mother would recite with a smile, the popular ditty of 
the time:
If you weren't so Ballymena with your old Ballymoney, I'd buy a Ballycastle for 
my own Ballyholme.
My mother was one for such sayings, so much so you'd be forgiven if you thought 
she'd kissed the Blarney, but I doubt she was ever that far south.
There must be lots of these folk expressions which have fallen into disuse and 
now sadly lost.
Gordon

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Food of Our Tyrone Forbears

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Elwyn

that was really nice thank you so much

Ron McCoy

On 2018-10-31 1:12 PM, Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList wrote:
The stir-about pot was hung on a swiveled arm over the open fire, and the 
housewife just dropped anything available into it. Mainly potatoes and oats, 
and sometimes the odd onion. Meat was a rarity, though rabbits and so on were 
an occasional bonus.  It all went in together. Pretty basic stuff.

For those of a sentimental inclination, the stirabout pot gets a mention in the 
splendid cheesy old Percy French song: “The Emigrant’s letter” (sometimes known 
as Cutting the Corn in Creeslough) written some time about 1890, about sailing 
as an emigrant from Derry to Quebec.

https://www.irish-folk-songs.com/emigrants-letter-lyrics-and-guitar-chords.html

Guaranteed to bring a tear to the eye, Bridie Gallagher gives it her best here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8jeEEgI9mY

Elwyn



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Cc: Len Swindley 
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Food of Our Tyrone Forbears

Hello Listers,

Following on from the items extracted from the Ordnance Survey Memoirs covering 
the habits and food of our Tyrone forebears, some clarification will be useful 
as to stirabout and flummery having received several off list queries:

STIRABOUT is a porridge made from oatmeal or cornmeal boiled in milk or water 
and stirred

FLUMMERY is a soft jelly or porridge made with flour or meal

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Observations on the Inhabitants of Clogher Parish, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland 1833-5

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Hi Len and all

Thank you Len for sharing this with all of us. I read this and many other 
pieces of history. I  notice the trend through out of the lack of mention of 
positive attributes of the common people. Empathy for another human being is 
completely devoid in these reports. The time period scribes never seems to 
mention how hard working these people are, how close knit the families be, the 
way communities work together or the weight of unfair and unjust economic 
burdens they struggle under and still survive and more they insist on  thriving 
in the face of great adversity. I think these Ordinances  are important pieces 
of history not as much about what they report or say on the surface to  us  but 
because they tell us a lot about the writer and the class structure he dwells 
in. It seems important to him to paint a portrait of the Irish working class 
people at a level of sub human strata (you may see pigs and fowls eating in the 
kitchen and everything is dirty ). The considerable hardships people are forced 
to live in are justified because of their moral depravity, "49th: It is 
believed that there is at least an improvement in the morals and cleanliness of 
children attending Sunday Schools". This article to me paints a picture of a 
people who are brave in the face of over whelming poverty, and unjust taxation 
without representation overseen by  absentee land lords. It speaks to me of a 
devotion to preserve the family and traditions at all costs. As people who are 
forced to struggle, their hope lies in their children and their children's, 
children, in other words "us". They would not allow themselves to quit, be 
broken, or trodden under, despite the written word, legal system and their 
betters opinion. They refused to think of themselves as less then any mans 
equal. They put all their hopes in the generations to come, they sacrificed 
everything to bring "us" into a safer , a better place... may we not let them 
down, may we never forget who they were and what they sacrificed for ,"us", for 
,"me". What they did was not easy and it was not pretty but they did it, a 
better world for us, those like us, those like them and those still to come. 
May we be able to say the same Thank you Len for bringing these pieces of 
history to us.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-10-25 10:20 PM, Gail Mooney via CoTyroneList wrote:
Thanks Len - Even knowing the history of those hard times, this piece paints a 
pretty grim picture of the environments our people endured as they struggled to 
survive.  I imagine depression was common in the population - reminds me to be 
more grateful for my lucky circumstances.

From: "Len Swindley via CoTyroneList" 

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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 7:02:19 PM
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Observations on the Inhabitants of Clogher 
Parish, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland 1833-5

Hello Listers;

There has been recent interest expressed in the lives of our Tyrone forbears 
(thanks to Elwyn) and here is an extract from the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of 
the 1820s-30s that offers some observations on living conditions in Clogher 
parish. Having read through many of the memoirs covering the parishes of Co. 
Tyrone, this report could be applied similarly to all parishes.

Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


EXTRACTED FROM ORDNANCE MEMOIRS OF IRELAND: PARISHES OF COUNTY TYRONE VOL. 1 
(INSTITUTE OF IRISH STUDIES, QUEEN’S UNIVERSITY OF BELFAST) (1990)
STATISTICAL MEMOIR BY LIEUTENANT R. STOTHERD
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS:
THE HABITS OF THE PEOPLE
42nd: There is very little order, cleanliness, or neatness in general to be 
found either in the houses or of the more wealthy farmers or in the cottages of 
the poor. The turf stack often approaches within a few yards of the door and 
thus intersects the view and stops the currency of the air. The yard in front 
of the house is full of the odour of the cow house and stable, for they are 
often built in the very front and sometime adjoining the dwellinghouse. The 
lanes and approaches to the house are narrow, rough and filthy in the extreme. 
Within no order is visible; you may see pigs and fowls eating in the kitchen 
and everything is dirty and confused, the furniture a few pots and noggins, a 
stool or a broken chair. The potatoes at meals are thrown out in a basket and 
so laid on the table or on a stool, and the whole family gather round, master, 
mistress, children and servants in a mass, and eat out of the basket without 
knife, fork or any appendage at meals. A man who can give his daughter in 
marriage 50 or 100 pounds will live in this manner. But this is not universally 
the case: sometimes everything is seen comfortable, neat and clean, both within 
and without the farmhouse, the furniture good and decent, the kitchen neatly 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Hello. I am trying to trace James Rielly, born in Aughnacloy around 1806, attested in Belfast 1825 and joined 72nd Regiment of Foot. He is my great great grandfather. Many th

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

The 72 was raised in the western Highlands by the Mackenzie's in 1778. The 
regiment moved to Ireland in 1801 as part of the Napoleon wars. The first 
battalion was sent to South Africa in 1805. In 1816 first and second battalion 
are sent to India. They  returned from India in March of 1822. The highland 
distinction was removed from them in 1809 when they were renamed the 72 of 
foot. In 1823 they got their highland distinction back, and in June of 1828 
they went to South Africa. They saw battle in Xhosa wars. They returned home in 
1840. It is a very interesting  my Great Great Grandfather was Wm Vaughan of 
the 100th Reg. of foot out of Belfast. His grand children married Reilly's, 
they took land grants at the end of the war of 1812 in Canada. Hope some of 
that may have been of some interest.

cheers

Ron McCoy

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McCay & McCoy - Ron McCoy & Marion Shephard -

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Hi Janet

I don't know if it is a help but my gedmatch kit number is M297606 I 
would be very pleased if we had a connection thought that far out it 
would be very small.

Cheers

Ron McCoyy


On 2018-10-18 9:30 PM, Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just wanted to thank Marion Shephard for the excellent question and Ron 
> McCoy for the interesting and informative response.
>
> These sorts of exchanges benefit us all.
>
> Marion, Ron, I have an interest in the McCays from around the Newtownstewart 
> area in the Parish of Ardstraw, Co.Tyrone. Is there anywhere that either of 
> you have your early to mid 19th Century family trees available for perusal?
>
> I have found a distant DNA connection between my Wilson’s and the McCay’s 
> from that region, and would love to be able to join the dots.
>
> With gratitude for your questions and answers.
>
>
> Janet Fairless (nee Wilson)
> Brisbane
> Australia
> (Researching my Wilson’s from townland of Cavandarragh/Whitehouse from the 
> early 1800’s)
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McCay & McCoy - Ron McCoy & Marion Shephard -

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Hi Janet

Don't know if this is of help but I remembered I do have a Wilson 
connection Ruby (McCoy)Wilson but much more modern. Wilson was a common 
name in our area and likely arrived on the same boat at Quebec city and 
made our way like the rest of us to the Ottawa Canada area. 
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/McCoy-4884.

Ron


On 2018-10-18 9:30 PM, Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just wanted to thank Marion Shephard for the excellent question and Ron 
> McCoy for the interesting and informative response.
>
> These sorts of exchanges benefit us all.
>
> Marion, Ron, I have an interest in the McCays from around the Newtownstewart 
> area in the Parish of Ardstraw, Co.Tyrone. Is there anywhere that either of 
> you have your early to mid 19th Century family trees available for perusal?
>
> I have found a distant DNA connection between my Wilson’s and the McCay’s 
> from that region, and would love to be able to join the dots.
>
> With gratitude for your questions and answers.
>
>
> Janet Fairless (nee Wilson)
> Brisbane
> Australia
> (Researching my Wilson’s from townland of Cavandarragh/Whitehouse from the 
> early 1800’s)
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McCay & McCoy - Ron McCoy & Marion Shephard -

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Hi Janet

Thank you for the kind words about my farming answer. The rule is never 
ask a farmer about something related to  farming unless you are having 
trouble sleeping.

The farthest I have gone back on my family tree is John " 
McCoy-4704"1766-1866, you can find John and Mary Gadys (Gaddes) on 
Wikitree.  Evidence strongly suggest to me that they came from Pomeroy 
Tyrone but I have yet to be able to make a conclusive paper connection 
so I have not included these details  in Wikitree. John and Mary could 
not read or write and so the name is some what fluid, being spelled 
phonetically by who ever the local official they need paper work done 
by. I suspect our family came via Ballymena area but that is just a 
guess based on similar names in the area and a known route that early 
Scottish people flowed from their home land. Hope that helps and we can 
finds some common ancestor.

Cheers

Ron McCoy


On 2018-10-18 9:30 PM, Janet Fairless via CoTyroneList wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just wanted to thank Marion Shephard for the excellent question and Ron 
> McCoy for the interesting and informative response.
>
> These sorts of exchanges benefit us all.
>
> Marion, Ron, I have an interest in the McCays from around the Newtownstewart 
> area in the Parish of Ardstraw, Co.Tyrone. Is there anywhere that either of 
> you have your early to mid 19th Century family trees available for perusal?
>
> I have found a distant DNA connection between my Wilson’s and the McCay’s 
> from that region, and would love to be able to join the dots.
>
> With gratitude for your questions and answers.
>
>
> Janet Fairless (nee Wilson)
> Brisbane
> Australia
> (Researching my Wilson’s from townland of Cavandarragh/Whitehouse from the 
> early 1800’s)
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Gt gt grandfathers farm

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Hi Marion

I am guilty of being a farmer and my last name is McCoy a version of McCay. I 
have also walked a lot of farms in Ireland but do not claim to be an expert on 
any thing you have mentioned below. Having said that I can give it a go until 
someone who is more knowledgeable comes along and corrects my poor thoughts. 
You say it is 39 Cunningham acres shared by four farmers. That is hard to know 
how big that is because the Cunningham acre was different in different 
Scotch/Ulster communities. As you know the Irish acre was about 27% bigger per 
side for a  60% increase over a Statue acre. You are right about the potatoes 
and oats. These were grown in any shape plot they could find and often close to 
the house to provide food and sale if possible. At the height of the many 
potato famines Irish potatoes were still advertised on the Docks of Quebec and 
Montreal for sale. The first description is mountain arable and heathy pasture, 
shallowwhite gravely sand subsoil. The land is arable so it has been 
cleared and has been plowed at one time. Likely rocks picked and fences build. 
However by the description as being heathy pasture and shallow I take it to 
likely mean at one time there was lots of erosion and the fields played out 
quickly. Heathy land especially on the hill sides are usually covered with low 
growing shrubs which are the devil to take out again and are extremely 
invasive. With out an aerial map it is hard to tell but probably the land is on 
a steep slope and may be part of what is known as a ladder grazing system. The 
population of Ireland was about 8 million people to this day it still has not 
regained that number. Every inch of land was being cleared and utilized. The 
ladder grazing systems took old fields that were unsuited for plowing any 
longer and used them for seasonal grazing. Farmers usually together took the 
cattle to the top fields of the hills early in the spring were the top field 
was dry and the early grass already growing. As each field below grew and got 
dry enough they would move the cattle down the ladder to the bottom of the 
hill. This system was well established and communities worked together to mend 
fences, maintain fields and share pasture land.

The next description is of a deep arable soil which usually means that their is 
a good depth of top soil. Moory land is usually wet and boggy often containing 
high levels of peat and high organic mater which has a number of difficulties 
in farming. The Irish farmers dealt with wet bogey lands by ditching and 
creating what was known as ,"Irish Drains,." These were the for runner of our 
modern tile drains. They would dig a net work of ditches and lay stones in them 
with flat stones on top. The water would find its way to the spaces between the 
stones and flow to a near by stream via the Irish drain. This took incredible 
craftsmanship and hand labour and many of them still work today however once 
you had improved the land this way the tax or rent would jump considerably. In 
some ways times have not changed...

Hope that is of some help

cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-10-18 12:22 PM, Marion via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hello All,
Are there any farmers out there? This is a description of the area where my 
Great gt Grandfather, Thomas McCay, farmed in the Townland Valuation . He 
shared about 39 Cunningham acres with four other farmers in the first area and 
had about 2 acres in the second . The land is obviously pretty poor and I 
wondered if anyone could suggest how this land would have been used at that 
time. From my reading I guess he grew some oats and potatoes and used the 
pasture for some kind of livestock but I would be interested in any comments 
from people with more knowledge than me.
The Townland Valuation 1828-40
This was carried out by the Ordnance Survey and provided a very detailed 
description of the land in each townland. On June 20th 1833 it was the turn of 
Rabstown to undergo this process. The townland was divided into 5 areas, noted 
on an accompanying map, and each described and valued. The area in which Thomas 
shared land with a group of farmers and in which Archibald's farm was situated 
was probably area 3 and the following description is given:

'3 A recd (reclaimed) mountain arable
 and heathy pasture, shallow,   

white gravely sand subsoil'

The value or rate for the land in this area is given as 3s per statute acre, 
later increased to 3/6. This was by far the least valuable land in Rabstown, 
other areas being rated at between 9/6 and 14s in the initial valuation. 
Thomas' land in Glentown was obviously much better. It was in area 7 and 
surveyed on June 24th. The description is as follows:

'7 A good free deep arable 1/3
 deep 2/3  a moory arable  of moderate depth and part exposed   
 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Len

Thank you all for your help and thoughts. The G.H. Parke I see in the Quebec 
Mercury 1838  Shipping Intelligence has an Office on India Wharf Quebec city 
and has commissioned several ships to be built in Quebec and New Brunswick. 
They then re-register  the ships from Canada to Belfast (Archives Canada). I 
suspect that the Gown, Parke co. 1855 in the advertisement is possibly a later 
merger of two companies, Gown and G.H. Parke. As you mentioned they do handle a 
lot of passengers especially in steerage. I believe that at least eight 
families sailed that day with them leaving the Pomeroy area forever and sailing 
to Canada. The average family size being five to six it would take a reasonably 
sized Bark or ship to accommodate them all. You all have given me several leads 
to follow thank you for your help and any further thoughts will be greatly 
appreciated.

Ron McCoy

On 2018-10-17 8:43 AM, Len Swindley wrote:
Thanks for your helpful and insightful response Elwyn.

Ron,

It is not possible to locate any information relevant to the company G H Parke; 
perhaps you are thinking of GOWAN, PARKE & CO of Belfast? This company was, 
amongst many things maritime, agents for shipping and emigration agents, 
representing Glasgow and Liverpool shipping companies, including the famed 
Black Ball Line out of Liverpool. The company did not operate a fleet of ships 
under their own name.

Belfast Newsletter December 4 1855
[cid:part1.75E2389F.AB4A77A2@Outlook.com]

Their advertisements were published in every edition of the Belfast Newsletter 
indicating great activity in the emigration trade. The Belfast Newsletter is 
accessible via Findmypast.

Hope this assists your research,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia

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Possibly worth bearing in mind that whilst there were direct ships from Ireland 
to Canada and elsewhere throughout the 1800s, there were far more from 
Liverpool. Liverpool acted as a clearing house for migrants from all over 
Europe, and had far more departures than from Ireland. Competition for the 
passengers was fierce with ships agents routinely throwing in cost of the short 
passage from Ireland to Liverpool free (together with dodgy accommodation in 
Liverpool), as part of the ticket price. Many more migrants in the 1800s left 
Ireland via Liverpool than left directly from Ireland. Significant numbers also 
left via Glasgow. For background, see:

http://donegalancestry.com/donegal/emigration/


Elwyn

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:20 PM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList 
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wrote:

Hi Lola

I hope you are well and had a good summer. I have searched the Quebec Mercury 
for information on the shipping news as youi suggested and it was wonderful. I 
believe my family probably took one of G.H. Parke ships as their line made the 
most crossings and some such as the Dumfries Shire is listed as having 276 
steerage passengers. I have tried to access the Belfast newsletter as you 
suggested in hopes more information is there but I can only find subscriptions 
to it? Could you tell me if it is a paid or free site you are using? I also 
wonder if you know anything about the G.H. Parke co. as there seems to be 
nothing on line about them? Thank you for your help.

cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-08-18 11:07 AM, Iola Whiteside via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hi Ron,  Iola here.   I just google both the Belfast Newsletter archives and 
the Quebec Mercury.  The webpage for the Mercury is in French but the newspaper 
printed in English.  It is east to navigate.  Just click on the calendar ikon 
on the right side, find the year, month etc.  I took a quick look and the ships 
arriving in 1828 are listed.  I hope this helps and let me know if I can be of 
further assistance.
Iola.

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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information


Hi All

Thanks for the information. The lack of shipping list is a problem and as has 
been noted travel between Canada and Ireland was not registered. A real 
problem... I have tried the steam ship lines from Quebec to Montreal with out 
success but they also ran Bateaux service which is how I assume they must have 
come. I think  the suggestion of the Belfast News, The Quebec Mercury or the JJ 
Cooke shipping records might give me the names of ships that

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Elwyn

It is always possible that Liverpool played a part but I am working on the 
memory past down by my great grand father Wm McCoy who makes no mention of 
Liverpool. He remembered the leaving of Belfast and the terrible passage they 
had. Locked in a hold as a steerage passenger with terrible sickness aboard the 
ship. He made no mention to my grand father of any stops other then the landing 
at Quebec. The church records show their Pastor David Evans who I believed 
traveled with them leaving his post in 1838 the same year my people say they 
left. Rev Evans church log shows him recording births and deaths in mid August 
of 1838 at St. Theresa Quebec where they hoped to homestead but were forced to 
leave do to political unrest. Taking into account the ice burg season and they 
did not travel south and come up through he USA that gives a very small window 
they could have come. I think the most  likely time of arrived would be May to 
mid July. 1838 was by all accounts a lower year for Irish immigrants traveling 
to Canada according to the Quebec Mercury. Given all of that if it is correct 
lowers the number of possible ships down to three or four with the Dumfrires 
Shire being a likely candidate as it is clearly mentioned carrying 276 steerage 
passengers who are sick and taken to St. Ill de Gosse May 27th. The bulk of the 
shipping from Belfast was by a company called G.H. Parke owner of the ship. 
Parke co. They had lost 300 steerage passengers a few years earlier on the ship 
Lady of the Lake when she struck an ice burg off Newfoundland in late April. 
This is the only record I can find of the company other then the comings and 
goings in the Shipping news and the shipping list. Genealogy is as always based 
on slim hopes. My hope is to find some record that might link my family 
immigration to a ship. All that I have related to you is bits of information 
related to me by my father but backed up by historical events. I think their is 
more to find and it is fun looking.

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-10-16 4:47 PM, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList wrote:
Possibly worth bearing in mind that whilst there were direct ships from Ireland 
to Canada and elsewhere throughout the 1800s, there were far more from 
Liverpool. Liverpool acted as a clearing house for migrants from all over 
Europe, and had far more departures than from Ireland. Competition for the 
passengers was fierce with ships agents routinely throwing in cost of the short 
passage from Ireland to Liverpool free (together with dodgy accommodation in 
Liverpool), as part of the ticket price. Many more migrants in the 1800s left 
Ireland via Liverpool than left directly from Ireland. Significant numbers also 
left via Glasgow. For background, see:

http://donegalancestry.com/donegal/emigration/


Elwyn

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:20 PM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList 
mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Lola

I hope you are well and had a good summer. I have searched the Quebec Mercury 
for information on the shipping news as youi suggested and it was wonderful. I 
believe my family probably took one of G.H. Parke ships as their line made the 
most crossings and some such as the Dumfries Shire is listed as having 276 
steerage passengers. I have tried to access the Belfast newsletter as you 
suggested in hopes more information is there but I can only find subscriptions 
to it? Could you tell me if it is a paid or free site you are using? I also 
wonder if you know anything about the G.H. Parke co. as there seems to be 
nothing on line about them? Thank you for your help.

cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-08-18 11:07 AM, Iola Whiteside via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hi Ron,  Iola here.   I just google both the Belfast Newsletter archives and 
the Quebec Mercury.  The webpage for the Mercury is in French but the newspaper 
printed in English.  It is east to navigate.  Just click on the calendar ikon 
on the right side, find the year, month etc.  I took a quick look and the ships 
arriving in 1828 are listed.  I hope this helps and let me know if I can be of 
further assistance.
Iola.

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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information


Hi All

Thanks for the information. The lack of shipping list is a problem and as has 
been noted travel between Canada and Ireland was not registered. A real 
problem... I have tried the steam ship lines from Quebec to Montreal with out 
success but they also ran Bateaux service which is how I assume they must have 
come. I think  the suggestion of the Belfast News, The Quebec Mercury or the JJ 
Cooke shipping records might give me the names of ships that would have sailed 
out of Belfast and arrived in Quebec in the time I suspect. That would be a 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Lola

I hope you are well and had a good summer. I have searched the Quebec Mercury 
for information on the shipping news as youi suggested and it was wonderful. I 
believe my family probably took one of G.H. Parke ships as their line made the 
most crossings and some such as the Dumfries Shire is listed as having 276 
steerage passengers. I have tried to access the Belfast newsletter as you 
suggested in hopes more information is there but I can only find subscriptions 
to it? Could you tell me if it is a paid or free site you are using? I also 
wonder if you know anything about the G.H. Parke co. as there seems to be 
nothing on line about them? Thank you for your help.

cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-08-18 11:07 AM, Iola Whiteside via CoTyroneList wrote:
Hi Ron,  Iola here.   I just google both the Belfast Newsletter archives and 
the Quebec Mercury.  The webpage for the Mercury is in French but the newspaper 
printed in English.  It is east to navigate.  Just click on the calendar ikon 
on the right side, find the year, month etc.  I took a quick look and the ships 
arriving in 1828 are listed.  I hope this helps and let me know if I can be of 
further assistance.
Iola.

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Cc: Ron McCoy<mailto:ron.mc...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information


Hi All

Thanks for the information. The lack of shipping list is a problem and as has 
been noted travel between Canada and Ireland was not registered. A real 
problem... I have tried the steam ship lines from Quebec to Montreal with out 
success but they also ran Bateaux service which is how I assume they must have 
come. I think  the suggestion of the Belfast News, The Quebec Mercury or the JJ 
Cooke shipping records might give me the names of ships that would have sailed 
out of Belfast and arrived in Quebec in the time I suspect. That would be a 
great help.

Iola would you have the online site that these can be found on? Thank you all 
for your help

Cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-08-17 9:33 AM, Elizabeth Vervaeke via CoTyroneList wrote:
My family came from Brackagh (Errigal  Keerogue)
through Londonderry on the Sesosthis in 1847 .  I was able to find their 
passenger list from the JJ Cooke Shipping records . There are many ships listed.
Perhaps it’s worth a search here ...

https://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/qu_seth1847.shtml

Kind Regards

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:30 AM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList 
mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
wrote:
Hi all
I have tried several times to find sailing records for the year 1828
from Belfast to Canada. This is the year I believe my family and their
neighbours left Tyrone and immigrated. However I am told there is no
passenger records in the early years of the 1800's. I was wondering if
there was  a list some where of just ships names that sailed even if
there was not passenger lists. I am confident that they sailed after
iceberg season and arrived in the Montreal area around the end of August
or beginning of September of 1838. If I had a list of ships sailing out
of Belfast I might be able to deduce which ship they sailed on? If
anyone has experience or an idea where ships names or records that might
have sailed from Belfast it would be of great interest to me?
Cheers
Ron McCoy

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[CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi all
I have tried several times to find sailing records for the year 1828 
from Belfast to Canada. This is the year I believe my family and their 
neighbours left Tyrone and immigrated. However I am told there is no 
passenger records in the early years of the 1800's. I was wondering if 
there was  a list some where of just ships names that sailed even if 
there was not passenger lists. I am confident that they sailed after 
iceberg season and arrived in the Montreal area around the end of August 
or beginning of September of 1838. If I had a list of ships sailing out 
of Belfast I might be able to deduce which ship they sailed on? If 
anyone has experience or an idea where ships names or records that might 
have sailed from Belfast it would be of great interest to me?
Cheers
Ron McCoy

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Contact regarding Tyrone genealogy

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi Lyn

I am looking for information on a group of settlers who I believe followed the 
Minister Rev David Evans from the area around Pomeroy, mainly Cavanakeeran to 
Canada in 1838. My family name is McCoy and I have found McKee the alternate 
spelling of McCoy and believe they may be the same family. Along with that Rev 
Evans was married to Elizabeth McKee. I am hoping to find some confirmation of 
the group immigrating. I have found matching names in the tithe and Apploment 
records and records in Canada.

Thank you for your help

cheers

Ron McCoy

On 2018-07-11 11:48 AM, EVELYN CARDWELL wrote:
Tyrone Family History Society has a Facebook page, it's a closed group, just 
contact them and ask to join.  Do you have a specific family or townland in the 
Pomeroy area in mind?

Lyn Cardwell

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Hi All

I would like to contact someone or a group from Tyrone or even if
possible more specifically Pomeroy area who might be interested in
sharing more about the genealogy of the families who left and immigrated
to Canada. Does anyone know of a facebook or general contact of someone
who would be interested in corresponding on that subject from there? Any
help in finding some one or suggestions of how to contact a person or
group of people would be greatly appreciate.

Cheers

Ron McCoy


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> Thanks very much Jim.That is great news.
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[CoTyroneMailingList] Contact regarding Tyrone genealogy

[Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList]

Hi All

I would like to contact someone or a group from Tyrone or even if 
possible more specifically Pomeroy area who might be interested in 
sharing more about the genealogy of the families who left and immigrated 
to Canada. Does anyone know of a facebook or general contact of someone 
who would be interested in corresponding on that subject from there? Any 
help in finding some one or suggestions of how to contact a person or 
group of people would be greatly appreciate.

Cheers

Ron McCoy


On 2018-07-11 6:17 AM, Tony O'Grady via CoTyroneList wrote:
> Thanks very much Jim.That is great news.
>
> Tony O’Grady.
> …….
>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 7:32 pm, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList 
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>> I have just learned that to prevent spam, many email hosts have revised 
>> their policies. This has resulted in many of you receiving an email as per 
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>> I believe the problem at our end has been solved AND your memberships have 
>> been reset as valid.
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>> My apologies for the inconvenience.
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