Re: Nvidia ION et drivers privateurs

2011-06-09 Thread moi-meme
Le Thu, 09 Jun 2011 08:00:02 +0200, Anthony Bourguignon a écrit :

 Vu la taille de la dalle, il s'agit probablement de la résolution native
 de ton écran. Tu ne pourras pas aller au dela. De toute façon, cela
 aurait entraîné une dégradation de la qualité de l'affichage (à cause de
 l'interpolation).

un petit xrandr permettrait de t'en assurer.

Sinon un coup de cvt pour tenter ?

Si tu veux tricher avec une plus grande définition (mais moins joli) : 
option --scale de xrandr.

Man xrandr et man cvt si affinités.

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Re: code de retour dans un xterm

2011-06-09 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas

Si xterm est débile tu n'as qu'à le punir :

$ xterm -e bash -c 'false || kill $PPID'
$ echo $?
15
$

C'est pas joli joli mais bon...
Sinon, y'a la liste shellscript-fr pour ce genre de questions.

Bonne journée.

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Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Nahliel Steinberg
Bonjour,

J'ai besoin de récupérer une liste d'ip une à une depuis un fichier pour passer 
une commande snmp.

Avez-vous une idée de comment je peux faire ça ?

J'ai fait un mail pour un subcribe à la liste scriptbash, je n'ai eu aucune 
réponse.

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Re : Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread gnafou


la commande apply ( à compiler depuis openbsd.org ) est géniale pour ce genre 
de 
choses


F.

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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Raphaël RIGNIER

Le 09/06/2011 10:55, Nahliel Steinberg a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'ai besoin de récupérer une liste d'ip une à une depuis un fichier pour passer 
une commande snmp.

Avez-vous une idée de comment je peux faire ça ?

J'ai fait un mail pour un subcribe à la liste scriptbash, je n'ai eu aucune 
réponse.


Bonjour,

admettons que dans ton fichier tu aies une adresse ip par ligne

#!/bin/bash

FICHIP=monfichier.txt

while read a
do
snmpget -c public $a
done  $FICHIP

*http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/5027-comment-lire-un-fichier-ligne-par-ligne
valable d'un manière générale pour lire un fichier ligne par ligne
*

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Re: Avoir une fenetre terminal qui crache les logs

2011-06-09 Thread Jérôme
Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 22:01 +0200, Nahliel Steinberg a écrit :
 Bonsoir,
 
 Je cherche le moyen d'avoir une console sur un de mes écrans avec les logs de 
 syslog dedans en temps réel.
 
 C'est possible de faire ça ?
 
 
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=
Rajouter une console de logs

Il peut être intéressant d’avoir une console sur laquelle les logs
défilent en direct. Cela permet de voir en temps réel ce qui se passe au
niveau du système, et donc de résoudre les éventuels problèmes plus
rapidement.

Pour cela, éditez en root le fichier de configuration de syslog (le
programme qui gère les logs) /etc/rsyslog.conf. Décommentez les 4 lignes
à l’endroit où les commentaires parlent de cette fonction (vers la ligne
50) :

daemon,mail.*;\
news.=crit;news.=err;news.=notice;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   /dev/tty8
Pour que le système tienne compte de cette modification, tapez :
# /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart

En allant sur la console n8, vous devez déjà voir une première ligne de
texte qui vous informe que syslog a redémarré !

=

amicalement
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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Nahliel Steinberg
Bonjour,

admettons que dans ton fichier tu aies une adresse ip par ligne

#!/bin/bash

FICHIP=monfichier.txt

while read a
do
snmpget -c public $a
done  $FICHIP

Merci ça marche, je complique :

iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 12990
iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 17265
iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7294
iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 19067
iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7071
iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 4038

Voici un exemple de retour de la commande. je voudrai additionner les valeurs 
qui sont remontées par la commande
et afficher le total.

ça vous semble possible ?

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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:02:30 +0200,
Nahliel Steinberg nahliel.steinb...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 
 admettons que dans ton fichier tu aies une adresse ip par ligne
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 FICHIP=monfichier.txt
 
 while read a
 do
 snmpget -c public $a
 done  $FICHIP
 
 Merci ça marche, je complique :
 
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 12990
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 17265
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7294
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 19067
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7071
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 4038
 
 Voici un exemple de retour de la commande. je voudrai additionner les
 valeurs qui sont remontées par la commande et afficher le total.
 
 ça vous semble possible ?
 

shalom,

voici la réponse d'un pauvre goy ignorant :

http://bash.cyberciti.biz/shell-math/sum-of-two-numbers-2/

slt
bernard

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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Bruno Muller
Hello,

Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 14:02 +0200, Nahliel Steinberg a écrit : 
 Merci ça marche, je complique :
 
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 12990
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 17265
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7294
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 19067
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7071
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 4038
 
 Voici un exemple de retour de la commande. je voudrai additionner les valeurs 
 qui sont remontées par la commande
 et afficher le total.
 
 ça vous semble possible ?

De nombreuses façons de faire...
Exemple avec awk, ajoute | awk 'BEGIN {s=0} {s=s+$4} END {print s}' à
la fin de ta commande.

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Re: Nvidia ION et drivers privateurs

2011-06-09 Thread Jérôme
Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 07:57 +0200, Anthony Bourguignon a écrit :
 Ça fait pas mal de versions que xorg n'a plus besoin de ce fichier de
 configuration et que tout se fait via udev, xrandr et compagnie. Mis à
 part cas très spécifiques (ce qui n'est pas le cas ici), ce fichier ne
 devrait plus être présent. 

C'est vrai mais c'est faux (^_^);

Ou plutôt ça demande un peu de nuances. Va faire un tour dans 
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d

Amicalement

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Re: Nvidia ION et drivers privateurs

2011-06-09 Thread giggzounet
Le 09/06/2011 07:32, Cazzaniga Sandro a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 J'ai un soucis sur un eeepc 12 de 2010. J'ai installé le driver
 privateur Nvidia (Squeeze) et j'ai un soucis de résolution: impossible
 de monter plus haut que 1366x768 avec l'outil de Nvidia ou celui intégré
 à debian.
 
 Une idée? Merci!

1201N ?

j'ai celui là avec etch dessus et le driver NVIDIA. je suis en 1366x768
sur l'écran du netbook...de toute façon tu ne peux pas avoir plus sur
cet écran.

Après si tu parles de la résolution sur un écran externe via HDMI ou
VGA...là c'est autre chose.

bye

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Votre Annonce

2011-06-09 Thread kifkifnet
Salut,



Votre Annonce Sur:



http://www.kif-kif.net/fr/



Merci.

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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Nahliel Steinberg
Exemple avec awk, ajoute | awk 'BEGIN {s=0} {s=s+$4} END {print s}' à
la fin de ta commande.

Bruno

Genial Bruno ca marche.

En fait ce script va me chercher les compteurs de pages imprimees sur les 
imprimantes.

Mon but est de faire le calcul du nombre de pages imprimees pour tous les types 
d imprimantees, pour quantifier le papier
imprimes par les utilisateurs.

J ai environ 500 imprimantes et une 40aine de copieurs.

J'ai reussi a isoler donc les ip dans un fichier, dont je me sert pour le 
script, mais j ai pu aussi rajouter en deuxieme champs
$1 le champ ip et $2 pour le nom redirige dans un fichier et j obtient ce 
format :

172.17.191.250  IM0996-EPSM2000 
etc..

est-ce que c'est possible d inserrer le nom apres le comptage ? 


Le comptage marche impeccable on dirait (dois-je faire une verification quand 
meme ou non ?)


Quand j'ai des imprimantes qui ne sont pas connectees voici le retour que j ai :

123890 
4546
41249
Timeout: No Response from 172.17.191.168.
0 (forcement il mets 0 puisqu elle n est pas connectee)
4549
121211
etc

Comme j'ai mon fichier avec ip + nom 
Penses-tu qu il est possible d afficher a la place de :
Timeout: No Response from 172.17.191.168.
0 
ceci : 
NOM_IMP n est pas sous tension

Merci pour vos reponses en tout cas j ai bien avance, en tout cas le comptage 
c'est deja pas mal ;-)


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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Nahliel Steinberg
De nombreuses façons de faire...
Exemple avec awk, ajoute | awk 'BEGIN {s=0} {s=s+$4} END {print s}' à
la fin de ta commande.

Bruno

Je viens de verifier, a priori le total n est pas juste ;-(

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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Nahliel Steinberg
Je viens de m'appercevoir que le dernier {print s} n'est pas afficher.

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Re: Re : Avoir une fenetre terminal qui crache les logs

2011-06-09 Thread Shutdown76


A lire aussi le récent article sur la centralisation des logs:
http://www.monitoring-fr.org/2011/06/nouveautes-gestion-logs/


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On Wed, 08 Jun 2011
14:57:02 +0200, Jeremy MAURO wrote: 

 Bonjour,
 
 Personnellement,
j'utilise un petit utilitaire syscolorize
(http://syscolorize.sourceforge.net/ [3]) qui permet permet de voir en
tps reel le '/dev/xconsole' qui affiche tout ce que rsyslog voit avec en
plus des couleurs assez bien choisit.
 
 Cordialement,
 JM
 
 On
06/08/2011 02:44 PM, Raphaël POITEVIN wrote: 
 
 Le 08/06/11,
nicolas.patr...@gmail.com [1] [2] a écrit :
 
 Dans
/etc/syslog.conf :
 
 *.* |/var/log/unfichier
 
 Tu crées ce
fichier avant.
 
 Entre parenthèse, ne vaudrait-il pas mieux créer
un pipe nommé ?
 
 Raphaël


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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread peric


Le 09/06/2011 19:06, Nahliel Steinberg a écrit :

.../...
Genial Bruno ca marche.

En fait ce script va me chercher les compteurs de pages imprimees sur les 
imprimantes.

Mon but est de faire le calcul du nombre de pages imprimees pour tous les types 
d imprimantees, pour quantifier le papier
imprimes par les utilisateurs.

J ai environ 500 imprimantes et une 40aine de copieurs.

   

.../...

Bonjour,

Ce que vous faites là pour compter les pages imprimées m'intéresse 
beaucoup.


Sur une debian etch avec une imprimante en local j'avais écrit un script 
pour décompter les pages. Ce script allait compter le nombre de lignes 
du fichier /var/log/cups/page_log, ce qui correspondait au nombre de pages.
Depuis le passage à Lenny, plus moyen de mettre la main sur le nombre de 
pages imprimés, je n'arrive plus qu'à voir le nombre de fois qu'on a 
accédé à l'imprimante, que ce soit pour une page ou plus.


Si vous  utilisez cups, auriez-vous une piste pour savoir dans quel 
fichier se cache le nombre de pages imprimées ? J'ai cherché sur le site 
de cups mais en vain.

Merci pour votre aide.

Christophe Peric


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Re: code de retour dans un xterm

2011-06-09 Thread mouss
Le 09/06/2011 10:08, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas a écrit :
 Si xterm est débile tu n'as qu'à le punir :
 
 $ xterm -e bash -c 'false || kill $PPID'
 $ echo $?
 15

j'comprends pas. tu peux esplicationner stp?

pour rappel: on veut lancer un 'ls /joe' dans un xterm et on veut
récuoérer le retour de 'ls.


 $
 
 C'est pas joli joli mais bon...
 Sinon, y'a la liste shellscript-fr pour ce genre de questions.
 
 Bonne journée.
 

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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread mouss
Le 09/06/2011 14:02, Nahliel Steinberg a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 admettons que dans ton fichier tu aies une adresse ip par ligne

 #!/bin/bash

 FICHIP=monfichier.txt

 while read a
 do
snmpget -c public $a
 done  $FICHIP
 
 Merci ça marche, je complique :
 
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 12990
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 17265
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7294
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 19067
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 7071
 iso.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1 = Counter32: 4038
 
 Voici un exemple de retour de la commande. je voudrai additionner les valeurs 
 qui sont remontées par la commande
 et afficher le total.
 
 ça vous semble possible ?
 

ce serait pas le moment de passer à Perl?

 if (/= Counter\d+: (\d+)/) {
$sum += $1;
 }

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Re: Script bash

2011-06-09 Thread Samuel Cifuentes

Le 09/06/2011 10:55, Nahliel Steinberg a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'ai besoin de récupérer une liste d'ip une à une depuis un fichier pour passer 
une commande snmp.

Avez-vous une idée de comment je peux faire ça ?

J'ai fait un mail pour un subcribe à la liste scriptbash, je n'ai eu aucune 
réponse.


Bonjour
j'avais travaillé il y a longtemps sur les mêmes problèmes (récupérer 
les compteurs d'imprimantes)


après m'être fabriqué un petit avec snmpget je suis finalement passé à 
cacti, il existe un template snmp_printer


inconvénient : ça n'additionne pas les compteurs
avantage, c'est joli et le service compta peut facilement voir les graphes

bon courage

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Re: proftpd logi

2011-06-09 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 01:12:47PM BST, Michał Leon Grzegorczyk wrote:
 Witam.
 
 Potrzebuję jakiegoś skryptu/programu do analizy logów proftpd.
 
 Głównie chodzi mi o informację jaki username co i kiedy pobrał.
 
 Próbowałem webalizera oraz awstats ale nie mogę znaleźć tam tej informacji.
 
 Czy ktoś może coś polecić?

Ze strony http://www.proftpd.org/docs/:

Log analysis scripts

There are various packages available to provide useful analysis of the
access logs generated by ProFTPD. Examples and more detail on their use
and the shortcomings will be put up shortly.

The Webalizer
ftpweblog

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aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread BasaBuru
aupa:

No encuentro docu sobre como montar un aula de formación donde los ordenadores 
de los alumnos procesen la info. Y que sus homes esten en el server.

De forma que cualquier alumno se pueda logear en cualquier máquina del aula de 
formación y tenga su home.

Los de edubuntu tienen algo parecido pero no me convence.

Alguien que me pueda dar referencias que leer y documentarme???

Un saludo

BasaBuru


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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread Juan Sierra Pons
Buenos dias

Creo que lo que estas buscando es:
- NFS o Samba (homes en el servidor y compartidos por red)
- Ldap como punto de autentificacion unico (un login/passwors para
todos los usuario independientemente del pc donde se loguen)
- automount para montar los homes de los usuarios automaticamente.

Dale un vistazo a
http://linuxconfig.org/HowTo_configure_NFS#6-configure-automount (caso
de NFS+Automount)

Y para la autentificacion hay multitud de tutoriales por la web y en
el wiki de debian

Suerte!

Salu2

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El día 9 de junio de 2011 10:51, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió:
 aupa:

 No encuentro docu sobre como montar un aula de formación donde los ordenadores
 de los alumnos procesen la info. Y que sus homes esten en el server.

 De forma que cualquier alumno se pueda logear en cualquier máquina del aula de
 formación y tenga su home.

 Los de edubuntu tienen algo parecido pero no me convence.

 Alguien que me pueda dar referencias que leer y documentarme???

 Un saludo

 BasaBuru


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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread Edgar Antonio Palma de la Cruz
El día 9 de junio de 2011 04:02, Juan Sierra Pons
j...@elsotanillo.net escribió:
 Buenos dias

 Creo que lo que estas buscando es:
 - NFS o Samba (homes en el servidor y compartidos por red)
 - Ldap como punto de autentificacion unico (un login/passwors para
 todos los usuario independientemente del pc donde se loguen)
 - automount para montar los homes de los usuarios automaticamente.

 Dale un vistazo a
 http://linuxconfig.org/HowTo_configure_NFS#6-configure-automount (caso
 de NFS+Automount)

 Y para la autentificacion hay multitud de tutoriales por la web y en
 el wiki de debian

 Suerte!

 Salu2

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 El día 9 de junio de 2011 10:51, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió:
 aupa:

 No encuentro docu sobre como montar un aula de formación donde los 
 ordenadores
 de los alumnos procesen la info. Y que sus homes esten en el server.

 De forma que cualquier alumno se pueda logear en cualquier máquina del aula 
 de
 formación y tenga su home.

 Los de edubuntu tienen algo parecido pero no me convence.

 Alguien que me pueda dar referencias que leer y documentarme???

 Un saludo

 BasaBuru


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Que tal, tal vez esto te pueda servir: http://www.tcosproject.org/


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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread BasaBuru
On Jueves, 9 de Junio de 2011 11:02:03 Juan Sierra Pons escribió:
 Buenos dias
 
 Creo que lo que estas buscando es:
 - NFS o Samba (homes en el servidor y compartidos por red)
 - Ldap como punto de autentificacion unico (un login/passwors para
 todos los usuario independientemente del pc donde se loguen)
 - automount para montar los homes de los usuarios automaticamente.
 
 Dale un vistazo a
 http://linuxconfig.org/HowTo_configure_NFS#6-configure-automount (caso
 de NFS+Automount)
 
 Y para la autentificacion hay multitud de tutoriales por la web y en
 el wiki de debian

con eso no tengo ningún problema autentifico todo en mi server con ldap

Lo del NFS me hace mas gracia que samba, le tengo paquete sin mas.

Muchas gracias

BasaBuru


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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread BasaBuru
On Jueves, 9 de Junio de 2011 11:08:11 Edgar Antonio Palma de la Cruz 
escribió:

 Que tal, tal vez esto te pueda servir: http://www.tcosproject.org/

Gracias, lo miro.

Un saludo

BasaBuru


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Re: Problemas con flashplugin-nonfree.

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:09:19 +0200, SM Baby Siabef escribió:

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629417
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629417Por lo visto,
 el problema lleva desde ayer... así que esperaré algunos días, si no,
 pues usaré los repos de debian-multimedia.
 
 Un saludo, ¡Y gracias por todo! :)

Yo siempre he encontrado más conveniente descargar el archivo 
directamente desde la página de Adobe:

http://get.adobe.com/es/flashplayer/

Así lo puedes instalar donde quieras (en el perfil del navegador de un 
usuario determinado o globalmente).

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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:51:54 +0200, BasaBuru escribió:

 No encuentro docu sobre como montar un aula de formación donde los
 ordenadores de los alumnos procesen la info. Y que sus homes esten en el
 server.
 
 De forma que cualquier alumno se pueda logear en cualquier máquina del
 aula de formación y tenga su home.
 
 Los de edubuntu tienen algo parecido pero no me convence.
 
 Alguien que me pueda dar referencias que leer y documentarme???

¿Has pensado en Debian Edu? Parece diseñado para lo que buscas.

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Product

Saludos,

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Ya teneis kde 4.6 en wheezy

2011-06-09 Thread BasaBuru
Aupa:

Pues eso que ya podeís disfrutar todos los wheezys de kde 4.6. Y flipar un poco 
tambien 8=}

Mirar la chorradita de las identidades, eso para picaros ;-)

Un saludo

BasaBuru


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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread BasaBuru
On Jueves, 9 de Junio de 2011 12:26:44 Camaleón escribió:
 El Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:51:54 +0200, BasaBuru escribió:
  No encuentro docu sobre como montar un aula de formación donde los
  ordenadores de los alumnos procesen la info. Y que sus homes esten en el
  server.
  
  De forma que cualquier alumno se pueda logear en cualquier máquina del
  aula de formación y tenga su home.
  
  Los de edubuntu tienen algo parecido pero no me convence.
  
  Alguien que me pueda dar referencias que leer y documentarme???
 
 ¿Has pensado en Debian Edu? Parece diseñado para lo que buscas.
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Product

Si claro lo primero, pero estoy intentando evaluar otras alternativas. Sin 
mas. Era preguntar si alguien había implementado algo así.

Le tengo que dar unas vueltas, por que tengo algunas limitaciones de hardware 
en la parte del server.

Pero solo estoy tanteando un poco el proyecto es para septiembre.

Gracias por responder

BasaBuru


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Re: Ya teneis kde 4.6 en wheezy

2011-06-09 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto

El 09/06/11 12:06, BasaBuru escribió:

Aupa:

Pues eso que ya podeís disfrutar todos los wheezys de kde 4.6. Y flipar un poco
tambien 8=}

Mirar la chorradita de las identidades, eso para picaros ;-)

Un saludo

BasaBuru



Hola BasaBuru:

Acabo de actualizarlo. Veremos qué tal anda. Ya de movida parece que no 
se lleva bien con el kernel 2.6.32 así que inicié Wheeze con el 2.6.38.

¿Cómo es eso de las identidades?
KDE 4.6.2 ya lo tenía en Wheeze porque le agregué el repo de Debian KDE 
y se veía muy elegante, ahora vamos con el 4.6.3 aunque mi PC ya se 
quedó chica de memoria de video así que es candidata a que le instale 
una placa porque sino no se puede disfrutar de todas las características 
de KDE entre otras cosas.


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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread Marcos Delgado
El día 9 de junio de 2011 10:10, BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org escribió:
 On Jueves, 9 de Junio de 2011 12:26:44 Camaleón escribió:
 El Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:51:54 +0200, BasaBuru escribió:
  No encuentro docu sobre como montar un aula de formación donde los
  ordenadores de los alumnos procesen la info. Y que sus homes esten en el
  server.
 
  De forma que cualquier alumno se pueda logear en cualquier máquina del
  aula de formación y tenga su home.
 
  Los de edubuntu tienen algo parecido pero no me convence.
 
  Alguien que me pueda dar referencias que leer y documentarme???

 ¿Has pensado en Debian Edu? Parece diseñado para lo que buscas.

 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Product

 Si claro lo primero, pero estoy intentando evaluar otras alternativas. Sin
 mas. Era preguntar si alguien había implementado algo así.

 Le tengo que dar unas vueltas, por que tengo algunas limitaciones de hardware
 en la parte del server.

 Pero solo estoy tanteando un poco el proyecto es para septiembre.

 Gracias por responder

 BasaBuru


Creo recordar que NX de NoMachine, te permite hacer eso. Yo use
freenx, para usar openoffice.org en maquinas con pocos recursos, pero
verifica si puede hacer lo que quieres.
http://www.nomachine.com/

Suerte.
Marcos Delgado.


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Re: Ya teneis kde 4.6 en wheezy

2011-06-09 Thread BasaBuru
aupa.

 Hola BasaBuru:
 
 Acabo de actualizarlo. Veremos qué tal anda. Ya de movida parece que no
 se lleva bien con el kernel 2.6.32 así que inicié Wheeze con el 2.6.38.
 ¿Cómo es eso de las identidades?
 KDE 4.6.2 ya lo tenía en Wheeze porque le agregué el repo de Debian KDE
 y se veía muy elegante, ahora vamos con el 4.6.3 aunque mi PC ya se
 quedó chica de memoria de video así que es candidata a que le instale
 una placa porque sino no se puede disfrutar de todas las características
 de KDE entre otras cosas.

Dale al boton de la derecha sobre el escritorio aparece una nueva entrada 
identidades.

La cosa es que puedes tener multitud de configuraciones de plasma. De forma que 
puedes elegir una u otra según necesidades o cosas que estes haciendo. puedes 
empezar con un clon de la actual e ir cambiando cosas, poniendo plasmoids 
distintos, quitando, etc.

Luego la das a identades y puedes elgir de las que hayas configurado. Esto me 
parece una pasada de plasma. Escritorio ad-hoc 

un saludo

BasaBuru


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Re: aula de formación homes de los usuarios en el server

2011-06-09 Thread BasaBuru
On Jueves, 9 de Junio de 2011 17:40:55 Marcos Delgado escribió:

 Creo recordar que NX de NoMachine, te permite hacer eso. Yo use
 freenx, para usar openoffice.org en maquinas con pocos recursos, pero
 verifica si puede hacer lo que quieres.
 http://www.nomachine.com/

Muchas gracias.. mas pa leer,je,je. esto no se acaba nunca. Siempre 
estamos leeyendo mas. Tengo unas ganas de que llegue agosto y poder comprar el 
DR-900 de asus que no veas. Y así dejarme menos las pestañas y la vista en el 
monitor.

Un saludo

BasaBuru


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Re: [OT] Nokia N8 como modem. Debian Wheezy

2011-06-09 Thread JulHer
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 desde la cual escribo.

Pues ahora a disfrutar la conexión desde tu debian.

Un saludo

JulHer

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Squid

2011-06-09 Thread Diego Sanchez
Estimados.

Existe alguna tabla donde pueda ver los requerimientos de un squid cache, en
base a cantidad de usuarios?



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RE: Squid

2011-06-09 Thread LiC . YaSnIeL LóPeZ ArGüEz
Cantidad usuarios? Bueno no se exactamente a lo que te refieres, pero para
darte una idea yo llegue a tener es squid trabajando para aproximadamente
1700 o 1800 usuarios.

 

Salu2

 

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De: Diego Sanchez [mailto:dieg...@gmail.com] 
Enviado el: Thursday, June 09, 2011 6:54 PM
Para: debian-user-spanish
Asunto: Squid

 

Estimados.

 

Existe alguna tabla donde pueda ver los requerimientos de un squid cache, en
base a cantidad de usuarios?

 

 

 

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Re: Squid

2011-06-09 Thread Diego Sanchez
El 9 de junio de 2011 11:39, LiC. YaSnIeL LóPeZ ArGüEz 
yasn...@ipilhas.rimed.cu escribió:

  Cantidad usuarios? Bueno no se exactamente a lo que te refieres, pero
 para darte una idea yo llegue a tener es squid trabajando para
 aproximadamente 1700 o 1800 usuarios.



 Salu2



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En la fase testing, atormentare a casi 300 usuarios de los cuales 200
seran concurrentes
Que requerimientos de hard necesito para que funcione?

Yasniel: Bajo que hard metiste a 1700 usuarios? Un PC clon de 300 USD ? Un
server estilo de 15.000 USD?

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RE: Squid

2011-06-09 Thread LiC . YaSnIeL LóPeZ ArGüEz
De: Diego Sanchez [mailto:dieg...@gmail.com] 
Enviado el: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:03 PM
Para: debian-user-spanish
Asunto: Re: Squid

 

El 9 de junio de 2011 11:39, LiC. YaSnIeL LóPeZ ArGüEz
yasn...@ipilhas.rimed.cu escribió:

Cantidad usuarios? Bueno no se exactamente a lo que te refieres, pero para
darte una idea yo llegue a tener es squid trabajando para aproximadamente
1700 o 1800 usuarios.

 

En la fase testing, atormentare a casi 300 usuarios de los cuales 200
seran concurrentes

Que requerimientos de hard necesito para que funcione? 

 

Yasniel: Bajo que hard metiste a 1700 usuarios? Un PC clon de 300 USD ? Un
server estilo de 15.000 USD?

 

 

Bueno fue un DeLL PowerEdge 2850 con 4Gb de RAM, pero use hace ya un tiempo
una DeLL 850 con 512 RAM con FreeBSD 6.0, para unos 380 usuarios
aproximadamente, claro en esa PC solo tenia trabajando el squid, ningún otro
servicio.

 

Salu2


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l7 filter en debian

2011-06-09 Thread Alberto Corona
Que tal Amigos
alguno de ustedes tiene corriendo los filtros de capa 7 junto a
iptables en Debian 6 yo uso la version estable
pues  al paracer para Debian aun esta muy inmaduro y me estoy dando de
topes contra el teclado para ponerlo

saludos


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Error con Mysql al dar dist-upgrade

2011-06-09 Thread Alberto Corona
que tal Amigos

el dia de hoy le di a un servidor LAMP un

apt-get dist-upgrade

en el tengo una Joomla el que me dice que no se puede conectar con la
base de datos de mysql despues de actualizar la distro pero el Mysql
si se instalo
alguna idea?

saludos


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modificar un video con FFmpeg

2011-06-09 Thread Alejandro
Hola lista!
Tengo un vídeo de unos 20 minutos y lo que quería hacer es acelerarlo asi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT6AEV0P0f8

con ffmpeg (versión 0.6.2) usando este comando

ffmpeg -i MVI_0299.MOV -r 720 -g 60 -vcodec msmpeg4v2 -acodec pcm_u8
-sameq MVI_0299_1.avi

pero solo se acelera un poco...no lo suficiente y no sé cómo seguir desde ahí =/

Intenté usar openshot (suelo usarlo siempre), pero resulta que se
cierra cuando quiero exportar el vídeo.
Alguien me puede dar una ayuda?

Muchas gracias
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Re: Error con Mysql al dar dist-upgrade

2011-06-09 Thread Dámaso Payares

On 09/06/11 18:25, Alberto Corona wrote:

que tal Amigos

el dia de hoy le di a un servidor LAMP un

apt-get dist-upgrade

en el tengo una Joomla el que me dice que no se puede conectar con la
base de datos de mysql despues de actualizar la distro pero el Mysql
si se instalo
alguna idea?

saludos


Revisa la versión de php a la cual actualizaste y cual versión de joomla 
estas usando.
y revisas si tienes los mismos paquetes de php que tenias en un 
principio, ejemplo: php-myql
(Si no se conecta después de la actualización lo mas seguro es que te 
falta un paquete)

Cuando logres conectarlo, lo mas seguro que te genere el error:

Warning: Parameter 1 to modMainMenuHelp er::buildXML() expected to be a 
reference, value given in


Busca en /var/www//modules/mod_mainmenu/helper.php
y cambias:
function buildXML($params)
a
function buildXML($params)

Saludos


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Debian Squeeze 6.0.1a Kernel 2.6.32-5-686 32 bits nao reconhece 4GB RAM

2011-06-09 Thread Fernando Cesario
Senhores, bom dia.


Estou tendo um problemas com o Debian Squeeze 2.6.32-5-686 32 bits
Xeon nao reconhecendo 4GB RAM somente 3GB de RAM, abaixo vo postar as
evidencias:


# free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  3041   2572469  0 66   1147
-/+ buffers/cache:   1357   1684
Swap:  486  0486


# grep -r . /sys/firmware/memmap/
/sys/firmware/memmap/0/start:0x0
/sys/firmware/memmap/0/end:0x9f7ff
/sys/firmware/memmap/0/type:System RAM
/sys/firmware/memmap/1/start:0x9f800
/sys/firmware/memmap/1/end:0x9
/sys/firmware/memmap/1/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/2/start:0xca000
/sys/firmware/memmap/2/end:0xcbfff
/sys/firmware/memmap/2/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/3/start:0xdc000
/sys/firmware/memmap/3/end:0xe3fff
/sys/firmware/memmap/3/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/4/start:0xe8000
/sys/firmware/memmap/4/end:0xf
/sys/firmware/memmap/4/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/5/start:0x10
/sys/firmware/memmap/5/end:0xbfee
/sys/firmware/memmap/5/type:System RAM
/sys/firmware/memmap/6/start:0xbfef
/sys/firmware/memmap/6/end:0xbfefefff
/sys/firmware/memmap/6/type:ACPI Tables
/sys/firmware/memmap/7/start:0xbfeff000
/sys/firmware/memmap/7/end:0xbfef
/sys/firmware/memmap/7/type:ACPI Non-volatile Storage
/sys/firmware/memmap/8/start:0xbff0
/sys/firmware/memmap/8/end:0xbfff
/sys/firmware/memmap/8/type:System RAM
/sys/firmware/memmap/9/start:0xe000
/sys/firmware/memmap/9/end:0xefff
/sys/firmware/memmap/9/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/10/start:0xfec0
/sys/firmware/memmap/10/end:0xfec0
/sys/firmware/memmap/10/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/11/start:0xfee0
/sys/firmware/memmap/11/end:0xfee00fff
/sys/firmware/memmap/11/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/12/start:0xfffe
/sys/firmware/memmap/12/end:0x
/sys/firmware/memmap/12/type:reserved
/sys/firmware/memmap/13/start:0x1
/sys/firmware/memmap/13/end:0x13fff
/sys/firmware/memmap/13/type:System RAM


Alguem alguma dica para correção deste problema ou alguma dica para
tenta solucionar o problema?


aguardo retorno,


Fernando Felicissimo


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Re: Debian Squeeze 6.0.1a Kernel 2.6.32-5-686 32 bits nao reconhece 4GB RAM

2011-06-09 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Bom dia ...

Em primeiro lugar, o seu kernel não permite o que o Sr. deseja, instale -
kernel :

linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem

E em segundo lugar, qual o chipset da sua motherboard ?

Existem alguns chipsets que mesmo com este kernel não enchergarão mais que
3.5 GB de RAM, limitação do chipset e não do sistema operacional !


Fábio Rabelo



2011/6/9 Fernando Cesario cesarioli...@gmail.com

 Senhores, bom dia.


 Estou tendo um problemas com o Debian Squeeze 2.6.32-5-686 32 bits
 Xeon nao reconhecendo 4GB RAM somente 3GB de RAM, abaixo vo postar as
 evidencias:


 # free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:  3041   2572469  0 66   1147
 -/+ buffers/cache:   1357   1684
 Swap:  486  0486


 # grep -r . /sys/firmware/memmap/
 /sys/firmware/memmap/0/start:0x0
 /sys/firmware/memmap/0/end:0x9f7ff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/0/type:System RAM
 /sys/firmware/memmap/1/start:0x9f800
 /sys/firmware/memmap/1/end:0x9
 /sys/firmware/memmap/1/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/2/start:0xca000
 /sys/firmware/memmap/2/end:0xcbfff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/2/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/3/start:0xdc000
 /sys/firmware/memmap/3/end:0xe3fff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/3/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/4/start:0xe8000
 /sys/firmware/memmap/4/end:0xf
 /sys/firmware/memmap/4/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/5/start:0x10
 /sys/firmware/memmap/5/end:0xbfee
 /sys/firmware/memmap/5/type:System RAM
 /sys/firmware/memmap/6/start:0xbfef
 /sys/firmware/memmap/6/end:0xbfefefff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/6/type:ACPI Tables
 /sys/firmware/memmap/7/start:0xbfeff000
 /sys/firmware/memmap/7/end:0xbfef
 /sys/firmware/memmap/7/type:ACPI Non-volatile Storage
 /sys/firmware/memmap/8/start:0xbff0
 /sys/firmware/memmap/8/end:0xbfff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/8/type:System RAM
 /sys/firmware/memmap/9/start:0xe000
 /sys/firmware/memmap/9/end:0xefff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/9/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/10/start:0xfec0
 /sys/firmware/memmap/10/end:0xfec0
 /sys/firmware/memmap/10/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/11/start:0xfee0
 /sys/firmware/memmap/11/end:0xfee00fff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/11/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/12/start:0xfffe
 /sys/firmware/memmap/12/end:0x
 /sys/firmware/memmap/12/type:reserved
 /sys/firmware/memmap/13/start:0x1
 /sys/firmware/memmap/13/end:0x13fff
 /sys/firmware/memmap/13/type:System RAM


 Alguem alguma dica para correção deste problema ou alguma dica para
 tenta solucionar o problema?


 aguardo retorno,


 Fernando Felicissimo


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Re: Script no lugar do bash

2011-06-09 Thread hamacker
Edita o arquivo /home/fulano/.bashrc

e na ultima linha, você acrescenta :
- INICIO -
exec /home/fulano/mainmenu.sh
logout
- FIM -
Isso lhe dá a possibilidade de carregar o ambiente do usuário (variaveis de
ambiente e afins), porém sem a possibilidade de usar o terminal, a menos que
seu script inclua isso. Saiu do script, seja por erro nele, seja por CTRL+C
então ocorrerá o logout.
Jamais faça isso com o root e o menu-script deve ter permissão de execução
para o usuário. Se planejar colocar o script em /usr/bin, então um chmod a+x
será necessário para que todos possam executá-lo.

[]'s e sucesso.

Em 3 de junho de 2011 09:48, Bruno Francisco Rodrigues 
brunofranrodrig...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Bom dia equipe da lista.

 Gostaria de saber como eu faço para substituir o bash padrão do usuário por
 um script que de opção só a alguns comandos limitados como se fosse um menu.



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web cam

2011-06-09 Thread manoel araujo
Olá, Debians,
Gostaria que vcs fizessem um reparo na configuração da web cam do amsn,
emesene.
pois nao estaou conseguindo usá-la.

abraço


Re: web cam

2011-06-09 Thread Gunther Furtado
Qui, 09062011, manoel araujo disse:

 Olá, Debians,
 Gostaria que vcs fizessem um reparo na configuração da web cam do
 amsn, emesene.
 pois nao estaou conseguindo usá-la.
 

Oi,

Não é bem assim que funciona... Dê uma olhada em:

www.debian.org

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Re: web cam

2011-06-09 Thread P. J.
Olá Manoel,

Em 9 de junho de 2011 10:38, manoel araujo mpedro.ara...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Olá, Debians,
 Gostaria que vcs fizessem um reparo na configuração da web cam do amsn,
 emesene.
 pois nao estaou conseguindo usá-la.

 abraço


Por suas colocações e dúvidas suspeito que vc seja novato no  livre
universo opensource. Minhas sugestões para esse tipo de caso é o
seguinte:

1º - Quando há problema em algum pacote (ex: webcam no amsn ou
emesene), a primeira coisa é pesquisar na página dos respectivos
projetos e verificar se já foi reportado o problema ou bug, caso não
exista nenhum relato vc mesmo deve fazer...

2º - Ciente do problema, estando diposto a resolver e havendo
solução... meter a mão na massa =D

Só um detalhe, com relação a webcam o problema não é dos softwares e
sim das constantes mudanças do protocolo de transmissão do MSN (talvez
intencional). Enfim é o que acho, caso tenha algum erro por favor me
corrijam...

Não desanime e contribua! E aproveite para dar uma olhada nisso aqui[1] tb:

[1]
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/

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Re: Acesso remoto

2011-06-09 Thread Nathaniel Simch de Morais
Usa o freenx!!! Acessa o site (
http://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=2961), baixa 3
arquivos (node, client e server) e uma pasta separada.

Aí para instalar entra no terminal como root e dá um dpkg -i *.deb

Em outra máquina, pode até ser Ruindows, basta instalar o nxclient, também
disponível na página do projeto. Para Ruindows só tem cliente. Não há server
para Ruindows.

Pronto! É só criar uma nova conexão.

Note que para acessar de fora de usa casa você precisa redirecionar as
conexões em seu router ou em último caso colocar sua máquina na DMZ.



Em 6 de junho de 2011 22:09, Tiago Saboga tiagosab...@gmail.com escreveu:

 On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:20:37PM -0300, Fernando Henrique Toledo wrote:
  Senhores boa noite.
 
  Tenho um desktop no trabalho com debian e um laptop em casa tb com
 debian,
  gostaria de saber quais sugestões para um uso mais eficiente de acesso
  remoto!
 
  Ás vezes tenho necessidade de acessar o desktop do trabalho pelo laptop
 de
  casa! Vi e instalei o teamviewr mas também li sobre o vnc!
 
  Existem outras propostas?

 Eu uso o ssh, e me acostumei a usar ferramentas que possam também ser
 usadas em modo texto.

 Mas quando precisei realmente de acesso gráfico, tive boas
 experiências com nxclient e nxserver, da nomachine. Durante um tempo
 consegui usar o freenx, versão livre dos programas anteriores, mas ele
 andou meio complicado um tempo, e não sei qual é a situação atual.

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Re: Acesso remoto

2011-06-09 Thread Tiago Saboga
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 01:27:35PM -0300, Nathaniel Simch de Morais wrote:
 Usa o freenx!!! Acessa o site (
 http://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=2961), baixa 3
 arquivos (node, client e server) e uma pasta separada.

Como já disse, também recomendo. Mas esclareço que esse não é o
freenx, é o Free NX ;) . Esse não é software livre, é só uma versão
gratuita do software proprietário da nomachine. Teoricamente, a
nomachine publica as fontes que permitem a construção de versões
realmente livres, mas pelo que entendi, na prática a construção é bem
complicada.

O projeto freenx está aqui:

http://freenx.berlios.de/

Mas a última atualização já tem quase 3 anos.

[]s,

Tiago.


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Re: Script no lugar do bash

2011-06-09 Thread Fabricio Cannini
Em quinta-feira 09 junho 2011, às 10:44:09, hamacker escreveu:
 Edita o arquivo /home/fulano/.bashrc
 
 e na ultima linha, você acrescenta :
 - INICIO -
 exec /home/fulano/mainmenu.sh
 logout
 - FIM -
 Isso lhe dá a possibilidade de carregar o ambiente do usuário (variaveis de
 ambiente e afins), porém sem a possibilidade de usar o terminal, a menos
 que seu script inclua isso. Saiu do script, seja por erro nele, seja por
 CTRL+C então ocorrerá o logout.
 Jamais faça isso com o root e o menu-script deve ter permissão de execução
 para o usuário. Se planejar colocar o script em /usr/bin, então um chmod
 a+x será necessário para que todos possam executá-lo.
 
 []'s e sucesso.

http://www.tech-faq.com/restricted-shells.html

Eu daria uma olhada no shell 'rush'. Acho que pode te servir :
http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/rush

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Re: Acesso remoto

2011-06-09 Thread Nathaniel Simch de Morais
Como defensor do software livre reconheço minha falha. No papel de gestor de
TI continuo recomendando o NX Server, pois resolverá o problema do Fernando.

Em 9 de junho de 2011 14:51, Tiago Saboga tiagosab...@gmail.com escreveu:

 On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 01:27:35PM -0300, Nathaniel Simch de Morais wrote:
  Usa o freenx!!! Acessa o site (
  http://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=2961), baixa 3
  arquivos (node, client e server) e uma pasta separada.

 Como já disse, também recomendo. Mas esclareço que esse não é o
 freenx, é o Free NX ;) . Esse não é software livre, é só uma versão
 gratuita do software proprietário da nomachine. Teoricamente, a
 nomachine publica as fontes que permitem a construção de versões
 realmente livres, mas pelo que entendi, na prática a construção é bem
 complicada.

 O projeto freenx está aqui:

 http://freenx.berlios.de/

 Mas a última atualização já tem quase 3 anos.

 []s,

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Compilação de Kernel para firewall

2011-06-09 Thread Bruno Francisco Rodrigues
Boa tarde pessoal da lista.

Gostaria de saber se vocês poderiam me passar algumas dicas quanto à
compilação do kernel para um firewall.



Pensando nas funcionalidades mais novas como layer-7 e velocidade de boot.



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Cursos Online + Certificado.

2011-06-09 Thread Daniel Alves
Ola pessoal, gostaria que repasasem esse email.

http://www.cursos24horas.com.br/parceiro.asp?cod=promocao39334id=39645url=cursos.asp

Minha indicação. Muito Obrigado! =)


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Cursos Online + certificado

2011-06-09 Thread Daniel
Ola pessoal, gostaria que repasasem esse email.

http://www.cursos24horas.com.br/parceiro.asp?cod=promocao39334id=39645url=cursos.asp

Minha indicação. Muito Obrigado! =)


iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility

2011-06-09 Thread Bret Busby

Hello.

I am running iceape 1.0.9 on Debian 5, and I am wondering whether anyone 
can tell me whether it is compatible with IPv6.


Similarly with the version of iceape that is available for Debian 6.

Thank you in anticipation.

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Re: File URIs; was Re (6): Capability of Iceweasel to open a local file.

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 02:11, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Scott  others,
 
 From: Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:07:01 +1000
 I seem to remember a number of URL handling exploits that could cause a
 problem (if they still exist). 
 
 All the admonitions about security have been hypothetical.
 Nobody has painted a convincing picture of a possible failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directory_traversal

URI exploits:-
Most browsers will process any base64 or UTF as part of the URI and
there have been a number of exploits that use base64 or UTF added to the
published URI to view remote directories and files. (the classic was/is
a login to Linux based networked web cam that could be bypassed by
adding an extra slash to the URI).
Then there's the buffer overflow URI exploits, and the remote protocol
handling exploits where the protocol is changed on the published link.
eg. file substituted with rdp etc.
The majority of the (old) exploits I'm familiar with ('cause I've had to
clean up the mess) work on Windoof only. As there are several directory
traversal exploits for Linux based web browsers I couldn't rule out
current or future ones.

I don't know of any currently working URI exploits that would work on
your specific setup, but I'm not a security expert. But for every Linux
based URI exploit in Metasploit you can bet there's another dozen
unpublished ones. :-(

My personal policy is that with a compelling argument I won't take an
unnecessary risk. Publishing links outside of my web server is an
unnecessary risk. Easier to copy the files to the root of the webserver
than take a chance I think? :-)

 
 My Links, including the file URIs, are public data.  Bus schedules 
 for example.  The file URIs are images expressed in html which I 
 want to publish.  The Web is meant to allow publication!

Yes. And axes are made for cutting wood. ;-p

 
 I have a situation where I want a user to be able load
 local files from a (local) webpage - and use javascript to modify local
 files ...
 
 Your javascript is executeble isn't it?  

Yes.
Any file can be made executable.
Binaries can be modified.
Text files can be modified.

 That's your more risky circumstance.


Yes. But that doesn't mean that non-executable files are without risk.
Your bash history for instance - do you mount CIFS shares? Do you use a
password file that's called by /etc/fstab?  The more information about
your system available to an attacker - the greater the risk an attack
will be successful.

This is an application that runs on Eee PCs without a webserver. It's a
local app running on Iceweasel with NoScript installed. Never-the-less
there is the potential for problems from local malware, or when
connected to a network.

That I can't list any hazards doesn't mean the application isn't
vulnerable. To run it NoScript has to allow local files to run
Javascript - which would then make it possible for malicious code in
Iceweasel, NoScript - in fact any application that can access the
browser, and probably more, to run.
There may not even currently be a risk - but five years from now it
could come back to bite me. (I don't control the netbooks, the client does).
I'm all for open source code (and hardware), but I try and keep my
systems closed.

snipped

Just out of curiosity - is that webserver Apache running the ldap_mod?
Did it allow you to serve a file outside of the public_html directory
without modification?

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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 04:43, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:
 
 On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


 Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
 trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
 for two months now. Is there a solution ?

 It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.
 
 Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…
 
 http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552
 
 …and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
 (/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
 about debsums complaining:
 
snipped

As I don't have any problems - does that mean this only affects Wheezy
builds?

NOTE: I'm running ext4


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[OT]: curlftpfs seems somewhat slower than e.g. clients

2011-06-09 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
I find mounting an ftp with curlftpfs very handy because I can work as
if it were a local mount, but it seems quite slower than ordinary ftp
clients e.g. in responsiveness and upload. It also looks generally
slower than sshfs which I use on another server. Maybe it can be tweaked
for imporved performance?

Ideas, suggestions, pointers welcome.
Thanks.
Lorenzo.


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Re: is this hard disk failure?

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 13:46, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 06/07/2011 08:02 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 [snip]

 - install SMART utilities and run smartctl -A /dev/your drive -- the
 first line is usually the raw read error rate -- if the value (last
 entry on the line) is anything except 0, that's the sign that your drive
 is failing, if it's in the 1000s, failure is imminent, it's just that
 your drive's internal software is hiding it from you - replace it!

 
 Then why does smartctl give my disk a green light?
 
 http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/smart_window.png
 

Is that a TravelStar?
Try running the extended tests and setting it for offline data
collection. I've got two factory refurbished ones that show 0 where
yours shows a scary 589825. That mine had to be refurbished means they
were sent back...and I've heard stories of hundreds sent back to the
factory when a rollout of Ipex boxes found 1 in 5 were dying during the
initial imaging.

What is the raw value for Reallocation for event count?

Cheers

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Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-09 Thread Christian Simo
Good Morning all
eth0 it's not working so I'm using eth1!

I asked to my ISP to open all ports at the moment!

I also sent them a LAN IPs from 10.0.0.80 to 10.0.0.84 so that they can NAT
to my public IPs 41.134.19.90 to 41.134.19.94:
10.0.0.80  41.134.19.90
10.0.0.81  41.134.19.91
10.0.0.82  41.134.19.92
10.0.0.83  41.134.19.93
10.0.0.84  41.134.19.94

With this new configuration, I'm confusing if am gonna plug my machines
Debian directly to the Cisco router or just on my LAN?

since 10.0.0.2 was NAT to 41.134.19.89, Can I have a computer on my LAN with
that IP, because before it was my default gateway my billion router?





On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:34 PM, nhadie ramos nha...@gmail.com wrote:

 i would suggest you troubleshoot your network first. if you have a
 laptop/pc, configure the IP to:

IP Address 41.134.19.90
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.248
Default Gateway  41.134.19.89

 then connect the laptop/pc directly to the router and ping  41.134.19.89
 if  41.134.19.89 responds, try to ping an outside IP. if it does not work
 then
 you have to verify settings with your ISP.

 if all is ok plug your debian machine directly to the router. since you
 mentioned you
 assigned eth1 i am assuming you have 2 NICs. once you connect the server
 you need to
 check which eth has a link using mii-tool or ethtool. make sure eth1 has
 the link as you have
 configured the IP to eth1, once you have the link ping the gateway again
 and it should work.

 basically if the laptop/pc works but your debian does not, you are doing
 something wrong
 on your server. i'm thinking you are wrongly identifying which is eth0 and
 which is eth1.

 Hope this helps.


 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't have access to my Cisco router, only my ISP.
 When I ping for e.g 41.134.19.90 host, the destination is unreachable.

 I already contact them to configure the router from their are side

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:26 AM, kuLa deb...@kulisz.net wrote:

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 On 07/06/11 19:28, Christian Simo wrote:
  Hi All

 Hi

  Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
  router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
  servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
  side.
 
  Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!
 
  Please if someone can have an ideas, I'll really appreciate

 I read all posts in this thread and saw that nobody actually asked one
 very important question:
 What routing setup you've got on the router/gateway.

 in your case I would use following setup

 - --router (with pool of your ext. IP's and port/IP
 forwarding)--servers
 (in LAN with IP's from one of restricted ranges ex 192.168.0.0/24)

 so traffic into you web server could looks like

 - --41.134.19.89:80--192.168.0.23:80

 it just depends from you what rules you'll going to set up

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Re: iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 16:25, Bret Busby wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I am running iceape 1.0.9 on Debian 5, and I am wondering whether anyone
 can tell me whether it is compatible with IPv6.
 
 Similarly with the version of iceape that is available for Debian 6.
 
 Thank you in anticipation.
 
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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

2011-06-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-06-09 09:19 +0200, Scott Ferguson wrote:

 As I don't have any problems - does that mean this only affects Wheezy
 builds?

It only affects Wheezy installs, more precisely systems with perl 5.12
or later.

Sven


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Re: Synaptic options will not tick

2011-06-09 Thread Lisi
I've done it again - twice.  I clearly need some dark black coffee to wake me 
up. :-(

So sorry, Mark.

On Thursday 09 June 2011 08:07:16 Lisi wrote:
 From:
 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com
   To:
 mark.pa...@gmail.com
   Date:
 Today 08:07:16


 On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:20:32 Mark Panen wrote:
  I have done a fresh install of 6.0.0 KDE amd64, i added the 6.0.1a DVD
  but synaptic nor aptitude will not update, how do i update from the
  6.0.1 a DVD?

 I have no idea how to update from 6.0.1a!  I thought that you said that you
 had done it, so I thought it must be a gap in my knowledge that you had
 read about!!

 Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?  (If you have already answered this
 and I have forgotten your answer, I aplologise.)  If not, try it.  It could
 solve your problem.

 If that doesn't work, try installing again from 6.0.1a. rather than 6.0.0.
  I think that we may have found the root of your problem.  There were
 problems with 6.0.0, which is why 6.0.1 was released so soon after the
 release of 6 itself.  There may be no upgrades for it.  I would, however,
 have expected 6.0.0 to upgrade to 6.0.1a. :-/

 If installing from 6.0.1a doesn't solve the problem, try 6.0.1 itself.  And
 if that doesn't work, feel free to howl with frustration. :-(

 Lisi


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Re: Setting up networking on eth0

2011-06-09 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:26:23 Mark Panen wrote:
 I am using KDE on 6.0.0, knetworkmanager uses auto eth0 to get a DHCP
 address. I have added a wired connection for a static address, but
 each time i reboot it uses the auto eth0

auto eth0 does not set the IP.  It tells the system to start eth0 
automatically at start up.

 and i want a static address. 
 Here is my setup:

 # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
 # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

 # The loopback network interface
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback

 # The primary network interface
 allow-hotplug eth0
 #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp

Give the second of these a line to itself. 

#NetworkManager
#iface eth0 inet dhcp

This second of these lines is your problem.  You 
are telling the system to use dhcp.  You want iface eth0 inet static and then 
the settings.  Here is mine:

iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.1
# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if 
installed
dns-nameservers 212.23.3.100 212.23.6.100

The gateway is my router.

Lisi


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Re: Synaptic options will not tick

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Panen
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've done it again - twice.  I clearly need some dark black coffee to wake me
 up. :-(

 So sorry, Mark.

 On Thursday 09 June 2011 08:07:16 Lisi wrote:
 From:
 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com
   To:
 mark.pa...@gmail.com
   Date:
 Today 08:07:16


 On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:20:32 Mark Panen wrote:
  I have done a fresh install of 6.0.0 KDE amd64, i added the 6.0.1a DVD
  but synaptic nor aptitude will not update, how do i update from the
  6.0.1 a DVD?

 I have no idea how to update from 6.0.1a!  I thought that you said that you
 had done it, so I thought it must be a gap in my knowledge that you had
 read about!!

 Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?  (If you have already answered this
 and I have forgotten your answer, I aplologise.)  If not, try it.  It could
 solve your problem.

 If that doesn't work, try installing again from 6.0.1a. rather than 6.0.0.
  I think that we may have found the root of your problem.  There were
 problems with 6.0.0, which is why 6.0.1 was released so soon after the
 release of 6 itself.  There may be no upgrades for it.  I would, however,
 have expected 6.0.0 to upgrade to 6.0.1a. :-/

 If installing from 6.0.1a doesn't solve the problem, try 6.0.1 itself.  And
 if that doesn't work, feel free to howl with frustration. :-(

 Lisi


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now i don't know what's up:

cat /etc/debian_version
6.0.1


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Re: Setting up networking on eth0 [SOLVED]

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Panen
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:26:23 Mark Panen wrote:
 I am using KDE on 6.0.0, knetworkmanager uses auto eth0 to get a DHCP
 address. I have added a wired connection for a static address, but
 each time i reboot it uses the auto eth0

 auto eth0 does not set the IP.  It tells the system to start eth0
 automatically at start up.

 and i want a static address.
 Here is my setup:

 # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
 # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

 # The loopback network interface
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback

 # The primary network interface
 allow-hotplug eth0
 #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp

 Give the second of these a line to itself.

 #NetworkManager
 #iface eth0 inet dhcp

 This second of these lines is your problem.  You
 are telling the system to use dhcp.  You want iface eth0 inet static and then
 the settings.  Here is mine:

 iface eth1 inet static
        address 192.168.0.2
        netmask 255.255.255.0
        network 192.168.0.0
        broadcast 192.168.0.255
        gateway 192.168.0.1
        # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if
 installed
        dns-nameservers 212.23.3.100 212.23.6.100

 The gateway is my router.

 Lisi


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yes thanks you helped me sort it out.


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Re: Synaptic options will not tick

2011-06-09 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 09 June 2011 09:35:16 Mark Panen wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've done it again - twice.  I clearly need some dark black coffee to
  wake me up. :-(
 
  So sorry, Mark.
 
  On Thursday 09 June 2011 08:07:16 Lisi wrote:
  From:
  Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com
    To:
  mark.pa...@gmail.com
    Date:
  Today 08:07:16
 
  On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:20:32 Mark Panen wrote:
   I have done a fresh install of 6.0.0 KDE amd64, i added the 6.0.1a DVD
   but synaptic nor aptitude will not update, how do i update from the
   6.0.1 a DVD?
 
  I have no idea how to update from 6.0.1a!  I thought that you said that
  you had done it, so I thought it must be a gap in my knowledge that you
  had read about!!
 
  Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?  (If you have already answered this
  and I have forgotten your answer, I aplologise.)  If not, try it.  It
  could solve your problem.
 
  If that doesn't work, try installing again from 6.0.1a. rather than
  6.0.0. I think that we may have found the root of your problem.  There
  were problems with 6.0.0, which is why 6.0.1 was released so soon after
  the release of 6 itself.  There may be no upgrades for it.  I would,
  however, have expected 6.0.0 to upgrade to 6.0.1a. :-/
 
  If installing from 6.0.1a doesn't solve the problem, try 6.0.1 itself.
   And if that doesn't work, feel free to howl with frustration. :-(
 
  Lisi
 
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 now i don't know what's up:

 cat /etc/debian_version
 6.0.1

You obviously have successfully upgraded at some point!  That leaves rather 
few potential explanations other than that you are now fully upgraded.

Could you run apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and post what 
you get?  Also it is worth posting the present state of 
your /etc/network/interfaces file.  That just _might_ give us some clues!

Lisi


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Re: x-terminal-emulator does not appear to accept comand line args

2011-06-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:04:02PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
 x-terminal-emulator --geometry=80x50
 
 it doesn't seem to work.

x-terminal-emulator should implement the 'xterm' command-line arguments. xterm
doesn't accept --geometry=80x50:

Doesn't work:
x-terminal-emulator --geometry=80x50
x-terminal-emulator -geometry=80x50
xterm  --geometry=80x50
xterm  -geometry=80x50

Does work:
x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x50
xterm -geometry 80x50


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Re: [OT] Native Oberon

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 06/08/2011 02:41 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 14:07 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
  ETHNO can easily be installed from a diskette in an evening.
 
  I experienced having a disk notcher at hand is very comfortable
  http://www.richardlagendijk.nl/foto/cip/mix_disk_notcher_01.jpg
 
 
 Bah.  A hand-held single-hole punch was good enough to turn a SS floppy 
 into a DS.
 
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Single-hole-punch.jpg

:D

Btw. I guess if we would test 100 CDs and 5¼ discs, there would be more
CDs around 2 years old, than 5¼ discs around 25 years old, with data
loss. I could do such a test, but I won't do it. It's to much hassle to
get an old computer and drive working. Btw. I used a puncher for the
office
http://www.teenagewasteland.de/img/dekorativ/locher_schwarz_antik_gr.jpg
Save money + time by punching two discs at once :D.

A switch for the light barrier, a filigree one like those
http://view.stern.de/de/picture/1907793/SW-Bearbeitung-Schalter-alte-Technik-Hebel-Schaltkasten-Hebel-510x510.jpg
would be a smart solution.


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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:08:45PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 Just out of curiosity: is there an equivalent for 'apt-get update' 
 (checking for updates without actually installing them)?

apt-get update doesn't check for updates without actually installing them: it
updates the local cache of package information.

There is no real yum equivalent for apt-get update: nearly all yum commands
perform a package info cache update before running (which is why it can be very
slow).

yum check-update will update the local package cache and tell you which
installed packages could be updated.


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Re: [OT] Mice

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:21 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 06/08/2011 06:32 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 [snip]
 
  I use alcohol to clean the ball and internal rollers. But I'm afraid
  laser based mice get also dirty (bottom surface has also to be cleaned
  for fast sliding).
 
 Once a year.  Maybe.
 
  But as I said on my previous post to Ron, I can live
  with them. What happens is that modern mice are a bit ostentatious and
  full of buttons (or they're targeted to notebook users and are a bit
  small).
 
 Not the Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse.  It's just... a plain old, boring 
 standard sized mouse.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Basic-Optical-Mouse-Black/dp/B00081N53K

This mouse perhaps fits too my needs. Shit! Is there another vendor,
than Microsoft selling the same mouse ;)? I would grasp the nettle and
buy a Microsoft one, if I shouldn't find another vendor selling similar
mice.

The PS/2 mouse were the mouse wheel using Debian doesn't work, seems to
be a Microsoft mouse too
http://www.comresurs.ru/pickat2/31081.jpg
I didn't know that I was comfortable with Microsoft :D. Oops!

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Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
 On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  ...
  Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new?
 
 I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel;
 so I can't address your specific situation.  But as to your
 more general question about hardware support, I doubt that
 Debian in particular or Linux in general intentionally dropped
 support for PS/2 mice with wheels.  It's more likely a bug.
 The problem is usually that the people who write or maintain
 the code don't have the necessary hardware to test it themselves.

Pity!

Ralf


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Re: Synaptic options will not tick

2011-06-09 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:01:00 Lisi wrote:
 On Thursday 09 June 2011 09:35:16 Mark Panen wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
   I've done it again - twice.  I clearly need some dark black coffee to
   wake me up. :-(
  
   So sorry, Mark.
  
   On Thursday 09 June 2011 08:07:16 Lisi wrote:
   From:
   Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com
     To:
   mark.pa...@gmail.com
     Date:
   Today 08:07:16
  
   On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:20:32 Mark Panen wrote:
I have done a fresh install of 6.0.0 KDE amd64, i added the 6.0.1a
DVD but synaptic nor aptitude will not update, how do i update from
the 6.0.1 a DVD?
  
   I have no idea how to update from 6.0.1a!  I thought that you said
   that you had done it, so I thought it must be a gap in my knowledge
   that you had read about!!
  
   Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?  (If you have already answered
   this and I have forgotten your answer, I aplologise.)  If not, try it.
    It could solve your problem.
  
   If that doesn't work, try installing again from 6.0.1a. rather than
   6.0.0. I think that we may have found the root of your problem.  There
   were problems with 6.0.0, which is why 6.0.1 was released so soon
   after the release of 6 itself.  There may be no upgrades for it.  I
   would, however, have expected 6.0.0 to upgrade to 6.0.1a. :-/
  
   If installing from 6.0.1a doesn't solve the problem, try 6.0.1 itself.
    And if that doesn't work, feel free to howl with frustration. :-(
  
   Lisi
  
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  now i don't know what's up:
 
  cat /etc/debian_version
  6.0.1

 You obviously have successfully upgraded at some point!  That leaves rather
 few potential explanations other than that you are now fully upgraded.

 Could you run apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and post what
 you get?  Also it is worth posting the present state of
 your /etc/network/interfaces file.  That just _might_ give us some clues!

While updating one of my other machines, I got the following result:

quote
Current status: 854 new [+424].
root@Junior:/home/lisi# aptitude full-upgrade
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
/quote

Is this what you are seeing?  In this case it meant that there were 854 new 
packages to add to the database (I had just added four extra repositories to 
my sources.list) but there were no upgrades needed.

Lisi


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Re: Synaptic options will not tick

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Panen
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:01:00 Lisi wrote:
 On Thursday 09 June 2011 09:35:16 Mark Panen wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
   I've done it again - twice.  I clearly need some dark black coffee to
   wake me up. :-(
  
   So sorry, Mark.
  
   On Thursday 09 June 2011 08:07:16 Lisi wrote:
   From:
   Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com
     To:
   mark.pa...@gmail.com
     Date:
   Today 08:07:16
  
   On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:20:32 Mark Panen wrote:
I have done a fresh install of 6.0.0 KDE amd64, i added the 6.0.1a
DVD but synaptic nor aptitude will not update, how do i update from
the 6.0.1 a DVD?
  
   I have no idea how to update from 6.0.1a!  I thought that you said
   that you had done it, so I thought it must be a gap in my knowledge
   that you had read about!!
  
   Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?  (If you have already answered
   this and I have forgotten your answer, I aplologise.)  If not, try it.
    It could solve your problem.
  
   If that doesn't work, try installing again from 6.0.1a. rather than
   6.0.0. I think that we may have found the root of your problem.  There
   were problems with 6.0.0, which is why 6.0.1 was released so soon
   after the release of 6 itself.  There may be no upgrades for it.  I
   would, however, have expected 6.0.0 to upgrade to 6.0.1a. :-/
  
   If installing from 6.0.1a doesn't solve the problem, try 6.0.1 itself.
    And if that doesn't work, feel free to howl with frustration. :-(
  
   Lisi
  
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  now i don't know what's up:
 
  cat /etc/debian_version
  6.0.1

 You obviously have successfully upgraded at some point!  That leaves rather
 few potential explanations other than that you are now fully upgraded.

 Could you run apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and post what
 you get?  Also it is worth posting the present state of
 your /etc/network/interfaces file.  That just _might_ give us some clues!

 While updating one of my other machines, I got the following result:

 quote
 Current status: 854 new [+424].
 root@Junior:/home/lisi# aptitude full-upgrade
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
 /quote

 Is this what you are seeing?  In this case it meant that there were 854 new
 packages to add to the database (I had just added four extra repositories to
 my sources.list) but there were no upgrades needed.

 Lisi



i used to see 560 new when i had my 6.0.1a dvd added, now i see
nothing and the same as you for safe-upgrade, maybe i am updated but i
doubt it.


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Re: How to stop receiving xorg-related mails

2011-06-09 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
I get just the bug reports for xterm and xserver-xorg. I used to be
subscribed to debian-x, and have now stopped the receiving the mails
since unsubscription.

I've unsubscribed from both xorg and xterm from the PTS, but am still
getting these bug reports.

I looked at BTS info, and it appears there's not way to subscribe to bug
reports for the whole package (just individual bug reports).


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Re: [OT] Mice

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 19:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:21 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 06/08/2011 06:32 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 [snip]
snipped
 Not the Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse.  It's just... a plain old, boring 
 standard sized mouse.

 http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Basic-Optical-Mouse-Black/dp/B00081N53K
 
 This mouse perhaps fits too my needs. Shit! Is there another vendor,
 than Microsoft selling the same mouse ;)? I would grasp the nettle and
 buy a Microsoft one, if I shouldn't find another vendor selling similar
 mice.
 
 The PS/2 mouse were the mouse wheel using Debian doesn't work, seems to
 be a Microsoft mouse too
 http://www.comresurs.ru/pickat2/31081.jpg
 I didn't know that I was comfortable with Microsoft :D. Oops!
 
 -- Ralf
 
 


I can recommend these:-
http://www.genius-europe.com/en/produktdetail.php?ID2=23ID=24ID3=56

Definitely work with Linux and BSD. Cheap and they are PS/2.
I have some of the Microsoft mice - they're more expensive, have a
slightly heavier (less flimsy) body, larger pads on the base, a bit
larger, and have a USB connector. They also work just fine with Linux
and BSD - no fiddling needed.

Both mice only need the following if you use an xorg.conf:-

Section InputDevice
# generated from default
Identifier Mouse0
Driver mouse
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/psaux
Option Emulate3Buttons no
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5


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Re: [OT] Mice

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 20:29 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 09/06/11 19:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:21 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On 06/08/2011 06:32 AM, Camaleón wrote:
  [snip]
 snipped
  Not the Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse.  It's just... a plain old, boring 
  standard sized mouse.
 
  http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Basic-Optical-Mouse-Black/dp/B00081N53K
  
  This mouse perhaps fits too my needs. Shit! Is there another vendor,
  than Microsoft selling the same mouse ;)? I would grasp the nettle and
  buy a Microsoft one, if I shouldn't find another vendor selling similar
  mice.
  
  The PS/2 mouse were the mouse wheel using Debian doesn't work, seems to
  be a Microsoft mouse too
  http://www.comresurs.ru/pickat2/31081.jpg
  I didn't know that I was comfortable with Microsoft :D. Oops!
  
  -- Ralf
  
  
 
 
 I can recommend these:-
 http://www.genius-europe.com/en/produktdetail.php?ID2=23ID=24ID3=56
 
 Definitely work with Linux and BSD. Cheap and they are PS/2.
 I have some of the Microsoft mice - they're more expensive, have a
 slightly heavier (less flimsy) body, larger pads on the base, a bit
 larger, and have a USB connector. They also work just fine with Linux
 and BSD - no fiddling needed.
 
 Both mice only need the following if you use an xorg.conf:-
 
 Section InputDevice
 # generated from default
 Identifier Mouse0
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol auto
 Option Device /dev/psaux
 Option Emulate3Buttons no
 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
 
 
 Cheers

Thank you :)

AFAIK even when using a xorg.conf and I'm using one for the monitor, HAL
does the mouse settings, as long as there isn't xserver-xorg-input-mouse
installed. Oops, the USB mouse does work although I've got a xorg.conf
without mouse settings, but the xserver-xorg-input-mouse driver
installed. I set up HAL or what ever, can't remember the file at the
moment, when I tried to get the old PS/2 mouse wheel working (of cause I
tried xorg.conf for the PS/2 mouse too).

I wish to have a wired mouse with a design similar to my old mouse.
USB seems to be ok too, no USB is sharing an IRQ with a sound card.
I guess both, ball and laser are ok for me.

Regards,

Ralf


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Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 19:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
 On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 ...
 Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new?

 I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel;
 so I can't address your specific situation.  But as to your
 more general question about hardware support, I doubt that
 Debian in particular or Linux in general intentionally dropped
 support for PS/2 mice with wheels.  It's more likely a bug.
 The problem is usually that the people who write or maintain
 the code don't have the necessary hardware to test it themselves.

Would that be HAL, Xorg, or ? developers?
'cause if it's lack of appropriate hardware that's causing the problem -
PS/2 mice is just the kind of hardware I'd be happy to donate!
:-)

snipped

PS/2 wheel mice are the only mice I use and all currently releases of
Debian for the i386 support them by default.
With amd64 I have tried with Squeeze.
The only laptops I've installed to are running Squeeze.
That's as a three-button mouse with a scrolling wheel.

The only problems I've seen with PS/2 mice and Linux in recent years
have come from:-
;using mice that require drivers in Windoof (for basic functionality) -
there's a Korean or Chinese mouse I've come across a couple of times
(CMPsomething?) - throw in bin to fix
;(most common lately, espec. Dell) laptops with touchpads - disable touchpad
;laptops with a mouse hanging off a Y connector - don't use Y connector
;devices with touch screens - I have no idea how to fix
;BIOS has PlugNPray turned off or problematic IRQ settings - turn on PNP


I've put the appropriate xorg.conf section in another post - it might be
worth a try, though I'd be more interested in seeing the halinfo and
dmesg first...

eg:-
dmesg | grep -i ps/2
[0.679471] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f03:PS2M] at
0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
[0.682717] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[4.381405] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as
/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4

lshal | grep -i ps/2
  info.product = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse'  (string)
  pnp.description = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse'  (string)
  info.product = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)'  (string)
  pnp.description = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)'
(string)
  info.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse'  (string)
  input.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse'  (string)

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Re: [OT] Mice

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:21:23 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 On 06/08/2011 06:32 AM, Camaleón wrote: [snip]

 I use alcohol to clean the ball and internal rollers. But I'm afraid
 laser based mice get also dirty (bottom surface has also to be cleaned
 for fast sliding).
 
 Once a year.  Maybe.

Me also... that's more or less the time it takes the ball to be plenty of 
fluff and to be uncomfortable enough to use. One can live with some dust 
on it... until you can't move it O:-P
 
 But as I said on my previous post to Ron, I can
 live
 with them. What happens is that modern mice are a bit ostentatious
 and full of buttons (or they're targeted to notebook users and are a
 bit small).
 
 Not the Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse.  It's just... a plain old, boring
 standard sized mouse.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Basic-Optical-Mouse-Black/dp/B00081N53K

Logitech has also a bunch of plain mice corded and laser based but... 
they don't look like my fatty balled mouse :-)

Look, do you see the difference? The old model is slightly curved on the top 
while the modern one is straight:

MS Basic Optical Mouse (laser)
http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/SkuImages/gallery/large/M17-1733-d1.jpg

MS IntelliMouse (ball)
http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/SkuImages/gallery/large/M17-1716-f.jpg

Anyway, what's the minimum desirable dpi for these devices? I've seen 
numbers from 300ppp up to 2.000ppp and more... besides, is there any 
noticeable difference between one tagged as optical and other tagged as 
optical/laser?

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Re: iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:45:46 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

 On 09/06/11 16:25, Bret Busby wrote:
 
 I am running iceape 1.0.9 on Debian 5, and I am wondering whether
 anyone can tell me whether it is compatible with IPv6.
 
 Similarly with the version of iceape that is available for Debian 6.
 
 Thank you in anticipation.
 
 
 Yes. Since about 2003

And if you hace CUPS installed, it can be easily tested with:

http://[::]:631/

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Re: iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 21:07, � wrote:

The sender I see  ^ is a question mark character - usually a part of
Camaleón's name what character set are you using?

 On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:45:46 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 On 09/06/11 16:25, Bret Busby wrote:
  
 I am running iceape 1.0.9 on Debian 5, and I am wondering whether
 anyone can tell me whether it is compatible with IPv6.

 Similarly with the version of iceape that is available for Debian 6.

 Thank you in anticipation.


 Yes. Since about 2003
 
 And if you hace CUPS installed, it can be easily tested with:
 
 http://[::]:631/
 
 Greetings,
 

And if your DNS server doesn't support ipv6 that's all you'll be able to
do you can try Google's DNS server - it'll respond to  requests
but transport is not supported. If you do have ipv6 DNS support many of
the major sites that support ipv6 will only do so for the next 4 hours
(you being in WA).

You can also test your connection here:-
http://ipv6.google.com/ (and not just today).

Cheers


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Re: x-terminal-emulator does not appear to accept comand line args

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:40:03 -0700, briand wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:59:03 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  if you try, for example,
  
  x-terminal-emulator --geometry=80x50
  
  it doesn't seem to work.
  
  bug ?
 
 Hum... here (lenny) neither works (gnomer-terminal launches but the
 parameter is ignored).
 
 
 I verified again.  gnome-terminal definitely uses the option and
 x-terminal-emulator definitely does not.
 
 This is all kind of silly.

Hum... Jon is right. If we look at the perl script:

sm01@stt008:~$ grep geometry /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
elsif ($opt eq '-geometry')
push(@args, --geometry=$arg);

The accepted argument is -geometry that is then converted into gnome-
terminal parlance (--geometry=).

 Why doesn't gnome-terminal have a preference setting for the size ?

Follow Jon's suggestion, it works that way.

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Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 20:54 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 09/06/11 19:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
  On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  ...
  Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new?
 
  I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel;
  so I can't address your specific situation.  But as to your
  more general question about hardware support, I doubt that
  Debian in particular or Linux in general intentionally dropped
  support for PS/2 mice with wheels.  It's more likely a bug.
  The problem is usually that the people who write or maintain
  the code don't have the necessary hardware to test it themselves.
 
 Would that be HAL, Xorg, or ? developers?
 'cause if it's lack of appropriate hardware that's causing the problem -
 PS/2 mice is just the kind of hardware I'd be happy to donate!
 :-)

Most people seems to have no issues with PS/2 mice, just my Trekker
seems to have an issue.

 
 snipped
 
 PS/2 wheel mice are the only mice I use and all currently releases of
 Debian for the i386 support them by default.
 With amd64 I have tried with Squeeze.
 The only laptops I've installed to are running Squeeze.
 That's as a three-button mouse with a scrolling wheel.
 
 The only problems I've seen with PS/2 mice and Linux in recent years
 have come from:-
 ;using mice that require drivers in Windoof (for basic functionality) -
 there's a Korean or Chinese mouse I've come across a couple of times
 (CMPsomething?) - throw in bin to fix
 ;(most common lately, espec. Dell) laptops with touchpads - disable touchpad
 ;laptops with a mouse hanging off a Y connector - don't use Y connector
 ;devices with touch screens - I have no idea how to fix
 ;BIOS has PlugNPray turned off or problematic IRQ settings - turn on PNP
 
 
 I've put the appropriate xorg.conf section in another post - it might be
 worth a try, though I'd be more interested in seeing the halinfo and
 dmesg first...
 
 eg:-
 dmesg | grep -i ps/2
 [0.679471] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f03:PS2M] at
 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
 [0.682717] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
 [4.381405] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as
 /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4
 
 lshal | grep -i ps/2
   info.product = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse'  (string)
   pnp.description = 'Microsoft PS/2-style Mouse'  (string)
   info.product = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)'  (string)
   pnp.description = 'IBM Enhanced (101/102-key, PS/2 mouse support)'
 (string)
   info.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse'  (string)
   input.product = 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse'  (string)
 
 Cheers
 
 -- 
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 We don't make mistakes.
 
 

At the moment I need to test my new RME audio card, hence solving the
mouse issue is delayed.



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Re: iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:26:38 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

 On 09/06/11 21:07, � wrote:
 
 The sender I see  ^ is a question mark character - usually a part of
 Camaleón's name what character set are you using?

That should be an error from Icedove when it converts from 7bit to 
quoted-printable :-P

No, seriously, I dunno. I use Pan newsreader and this is what I see for 
my headers:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:45:46 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 On 09/06/11 16:25, Bret Busby wrote:
  
 I am running iceape 1.0.9 on Debian 5, and I am wondering whether
 anyone can tell me whether it is compatible with IPv6.

 Similarly with the version of iceape that is available for Debian 6.

 Thank you in anticipation.


 Yes. Since about 2003
 
 And if you hace CUPS installed, it can be easily tested with:
 
 http://[::]:631/
 
 
 
 And if your DNS server doesn't support ipv6 that's all you'll be able to
 do you can try Google's DNS server - it'll respond to  requests
 but transport is not supported. If you do have ipv6 DNS support many of
 the major sites that support ipv6 will only do so for the next 4 hours
 (you being in WA).

I have no chance for using ipv6 externally, only local. My ISP is still 
not ready for that (well, it is, but not for its customers) ;-(. Should I 
wanted to go out using IPv6 I would have to setup a tunnel broker but I'm 
not motivated enough to try it :-)
 
 You can also test your connection here:- http://ipv6.google.com/ (and
 not just today).

Which reminds me that yesterday was the World IPv6 Day but I'm afraid 
that big sites (Google, Yahoo!, Amazon, etc...) pushed a very light test 
(ipv4 resolution was still avaialble) so no one was facing problems.

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Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:42:38 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 Good Morning all
 eth0 it's not working so I'm using eth1!

No problem, but why is not working? Device malfunction?

 I asked to my ISP to open all ports at the moment!

Good! Well, sort of... 

You mean that all ports are now opened? Then you will have to setup a 
firewall on your facilities that drops the connections targeted to 
services you don't have enabled. This is very important because having 
all ports opened (like a DMZ) can be a security risk for your whole LAN.

 I also sent them a LAN IPs from 10.0.0.80 to 10.0.0.84 so that they can
 NAT to my public IPs 41.134.19.90 to 41.134.19.94: 

 10.0.0.80  41.134.19.90
 10.0.0.81  41.134.19.91
 10.0.0.82  41.134.19.92
 10.0.0.83  41.134.19.93
 10.0.0.84  41.134.19.94
 
 With this new configuration, I'm confusing if am gonna plug my machines
 Debian directly to the Cisco router or just on my LAN?

I'd say to your LAN because your LAN (switches and computers) should be 
connected _somehow_ (directly or indirectly) to the Cisco router, right?

So Debian server (eth1) that is going to host your DNS and web server it 
should be configured with all those IP addresses (10.0.0.80-84). How many 
network interfaces does the server have? You can assign an IP to each 
interface (should you have 5 ethernet devices) or you can use an ethernet 
alias (one physical interface sharing several IP addresses). Or you can 
assing just one IP to the server and redistribute the rest to different 
computers. 

You can do many things :-)

Why don't you write/draw a scheme of your network and send it to us? That 
will facilitate things a lot.
 
 since 10.0.0.2 was NAT to 41.134.19.89, Can I have a computer on my LAN
 with that IP, because before it was my default gateway my billion
 router?

I'm afraid that IP will be your default gateway for all of your computers 
and you can't have two devices in the same network layer configured with 
the same IP.

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Re: iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 21:41, � wrote:
 On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:26:38 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 On 09/06/11 21:07, � wrote:

 The sender I see  ^ is a question mark character - usually a part of
 Camaleón's name what character set are you using?
 
 That should be an error from Icedove when it converts from 7bit to 
 quoted-printable :-P
 
 No, seriously, I dunno. I use Pan newsreader and this is what I see for 
 my headers:
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
snipped

From your headers:-
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?snipped
snipped
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
snipped
User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)

NOTE: the From: line and Content-Transfer-Encoding

From another poster's headers (all characters translate):-

From: Ralf Mardorf snipped
snipped
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
snipped
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Another one with untranslatable characters:-

From: =?UTF-8?B?5byg5ZCv5b63?= snipped
snipped
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It appears to be the result of the modified From string - don't know if
that's from your email client, or the way Exim is handling it... maybe
it's part of Gmane's email shell game.
No problem. You just need to change your name from Camaleón to White
Question mark on a black diamond formerly known as Camaleón.


:-)


snipped

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Re: aptitude/apt-get hangs during update (plus) on IPv6

2011-06-09 Thread Jeffrey B. Green

Rick Thomas writes:

On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Rick Thomas a écrit :
On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Jeffrey B. Green wrote:

The RFCs say that any conforming implementation MUST handle an MTU of
1280, and may not necessarily handle anything larger.

What is your point in mentionning this requirement? Do you mean that the
server should not send packets bigger than 1280 bytes if it fails to
handle properly path MTU discovery ? If so, I fully agree.

My point is that by setting your MTU to 1280, you have done *your* part. At 
least you can be assured that all your packets will get thru without 
fragmentation, even if the host at the other end -- or some intervening router 
-- is improperly configured.

If the host on the other end sets its MTU to something larger and an 
intervening router doesn't do fragmentation, they (or the admins of the router) 
need to fix that. An easy recommendation that you can make in this case (if the 
server admin on the other end is clueless but willing to help) is for them to 
set their MTU to 1280 as well. That will fix the problem regardless of 
intervening routers.

Finding a (possible series of) mis-configured intermediate router(s) and 
convincing the respective router-admin(s) to fix their configuration is often 
difficult. It's easier if you have only one person to talk to, the server admin 
on the other end.


In my case, I was able to explore some of the pitfalls of MTUs, in 
particular in crossing a firewall. I know that I was not able to easily 
take care of a decreasing MTU mismatch _across the firewall_ in the case 
of IPv4; so the internal lan-side MTU must match the wan-side MTU for 
our location. (Not sure at present if the MTU correction messages were 
not making it back or if some of the workstations were being obstinate 
in setting the MTU or if the firewall was killing the latter fragments.) 
And at present only the servers and a handful of workstations here are 
accessing the world by IPv6, and consequently any tunnel impact on MTU 
here was minimal.


-jeff


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is sabertooth X58 compatible?

2011-06-09 Thread Pol Hallen
Hi folks :-)

I'd like buy this mb 
http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/SABERTOOTH_X58/

is this mb compatible with debian 6?

any experience?

thanks :-)

Pol


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Re: Synaptic options will not tick

2011-06-09 Thread Lisi
Putting this back on list where it ought to be.
On Thursday 09 June 2011 12:52:41 Mark Panen wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:53:41 Mark Panen wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:01:00 Lisi wrote:
   On Thursday 09 June 2011 09:35:16 Mark Panen wrote:
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've done it again - twice.  I clearly need some dark black
 coffee to wake me up. :-(

 So sorry, Mark.

 On Thursday 09 June 2011 08:07:16 Lisi wrote:
 From:
 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com
   To:
 mark.pa...@gmail.com
   Date:
 Today 08:07:16

 On Thursday 09 June 2011 03:20:32 Mark Panen wrote:
  I have done a fresh install of 6.0.0 KDE amd64, i added the
  6.0.1a DVD but synaptic nor aptitude will not update, how do i
  update from the 6.0.1 a DVD?

 Have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?  (If you have already
 answered this and I have forgotten your answer, I aplologise.)
  If not, try it. It could solve your problem.

 If that doesn't work, try installing again from 6.0.1a. rather
 than 6.0.0. I think that we may have found the root of your
 problem. There were problems with 6.0.0, which is why 6.0.1 was
 released so soon after the release of 6 itself.  There may be no
 upgrades for it.  I would, however, have expected 6.0.0 to
 upgrade to 6.0.1a.

 :-/

 If installing from 6.0.1a doesn't solve the problem, try 6.0.1
 itself. And if that doesn't work, feel free to howl with
 frustration. :-(
   
now i don't know what's up:
   
cat /etc/debian_version
6.0.1
  
   You obviously have successfully upgraded at some point!  That leaves
   rather few potential explanations other than that you are now fully
   upgraded.
  
   Could you run apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and
   post what you get?  Also it is worth posting the present state of
   your /etc/network/interfaces file.  That just _might_ give us some
   clues!
  
   While updating one of my other machines, I got the following result:
  
   quote
   Current status: 854 new [+424].
   root@Junior:/home/lisi# aptitude full-upgrade
   No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
   0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not
   upgraded. Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be
   used. /quote
  
   Is this what you are seeing?  In this case it meant that there were
   854 new packages to add to the database (I had just added four extra
   repositories to my sources.list) but there were no upgrades needed.
  
   Lisi
 
  i used to see 560 new when i had my 6.0.1a dvd added, now i see
  nothing and the same as you for safe-upgrade, maybe i am updated but i
  doubt it.
 
  You say you used safe-upgrade.  Have you tried dist-upgrade??  That is
  what I have used above.  It really is worth a try, as I suggested.  (Tom
  pointed out to us that aptitude full-upgrade, which is what I have
  actually used above, is the equivalent of apt-get dist-upgrade.)
 
  And at the risk of seeming even more repetitious:
  Could you run apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and post
  what you get?  Also it is worth posting the present state of
  your /etc/network/interfaces file.  That just _might_ give us some clues!
 
  Lisi

 yes i have tried them all, everyone.

I'm sorry Mark, but without the information that I have asked for, several 
times now, I really can't help you.  And I fear that no-one else will be able 
to either.  

If you change your mind and are prepared to give the information, then I'll 
see whether there is anything else I can do.

Lisi





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[OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:31:14 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

 On 09/06/11 21:41, � wrote:
 On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:26:38 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 On 09/06/11 21:07, � wrote:

 The sender I see  ^ is a question mark character - usually a part of
 Camaleón's name what character set are you using?
 
 That should be an error from Icedove when it converts from 7bit to
 quoted-printable :-P
 
 No, seriously, I dunno. I use Pan newsreader and this is what I see for
 my headers:
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 snipped
(...)
 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?snipped
^^^

I don't see this :-?

(...)

 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 

Neither this one.

 NOTE: the From: line and Content-Transfer-Encoding

Yes, but dunno what can be the source. Is there a way to download the raw 
messages from the mailing list server?
 
From another poster's headers (all characters translate):-
 
 From: Ralf Mardorf snipped
 snipped
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 snipped
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This one looks right.

 Another one with untranslatable characters:-
 
 From: =?UTF-8?B?5byg5ZCv5b63?= snipped snipped
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Have you tried to open one of my messages with another MUA? Just so see 
if there is any difference in rendering.
 
 It appears to be the result of the modified From string - don't know if
 that's from your email client, or the way Exim is handling it... maybe
 it's part of Gmane's email shell game. No problem. You just need to
 change your name from Camaleón to White Question mark on a black
 diamond formerly known as Camaleón.
 
 
 :-)

He, he... :-)

Greetings from Black Diamond,

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Re: [OT] Mice

2011-06-09 Thread Go Linux
FWIW, the wheel on my PS2 two-button mouse works just fine without any 
tweaking. The specs are:

Manufacturer: Dell
DP/N: H2871  0W1668
P/N: 851841-

Maybe I missed something along the way in the discussion.  All those untrimmed 
posts and bottom posting were a bit much to deal with . . .


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

2011-06-09 Thread Frank McCormick
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:19:19 +1000
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 09/06/11 04:43, Sven Joachim wrote:
  On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:
  
  On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
 
 
  Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
  trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
  for two months now. Is there a solution ?
 
  It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.
  
  Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…
  
  http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552
  
  …and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
  (/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
  about debsums complaining:
  
 snipped
 
 As I don't have any problems - does that mean this only affects Wheezy
 builds?
 
 NOTE: I'm running ext4

  I'm running Sid (up to date) - it's now fixed thanks to a patch.
But I don't understand why it doesn't affect Wheezy ??


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Re: Synaptic options will not tick

2011-06-09 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 09 June 2011 14:21:12 Mark Panen wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thursday 09 June 2011 12:52:41 Mark Panen wrote:
   And at the risk of seeming even more repetitious:
   Could you run apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and post
   what you get?  Also it is worth posting the present state of
   your /etc/network/interfaces file.  That just _might_ give us some
   clues!
  
   Lisi
 
  yes i have tried them all, everyone.
 
  I'm sorry Mark, but without the information that I have asked for,
  several times now, I really can't help you.  And I fear that no-one else
  will be able to either.
 
  If you change your mind and are prepared to give the information, then
  I'll see whether there is anything else I can do.
 
  Lisi

 apt-get update
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze Release.gpg
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib Translation-en
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib Translation-en_ZA
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-en
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-en_ZA
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free Translation-en
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free Translation-en_ZA
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze-updates Release.gpg
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/contrib
 Translation-en Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/
 squeeze-updates/contrib Translation-en_ZA Hit http://security.debian.org
 squeeze/updates Release.gpg
 Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/contrib Translation-en
 Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/contrib Translation-en_ZA
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/main Translation-en
 Ign http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/main
 Translation-en_ZA Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze Release
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze-updates Release
 Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main Translation-en
 Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main Translation-en_ZA
 Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/non-free Translation-en
 Ign http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/non-free Translation-en_ZA
 Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates Release
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze/main Sources
 Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/main Sources
 Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/contrib Sources
 Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/non-free Sources
 Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/main amd64 Packages
 Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/contrib amd64 Packages
 Hit http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/non-free amd64 Packages
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze/contrib Sources
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze/non-free Sources
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze/main amd64 Packages
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze/non-free amd64 Packages
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze-updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze-updates/contrib Sources
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze-updates/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze-updates/contrib amd64 Packages
 Hit http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze-updates/main amd64 Packages
 Reading package lists... Done


 apt-get dist-upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


 cat /etc/network/interfaces
 # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
 # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

 # The loopback network interface
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback

 # The primary network interface
 allow-hotplug eth0
 #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet static

 iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.1.103
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 network 192.168.0.0
 broadcast 192.168.0.255
 gateway 192.168.1.254
 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if
 installed dns-nameservers 192.168.1.254

 #auto eth0
 #iface eth0 inet static
 #address 192.168.1.103
 #netmask 255.255.255.0

On the face of it, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong.  You started with 
6.0.0 and now have 6.0.1, so you have clearly done some upgrading.  update 
and dist-upgrade both agree that there are no updates available.  Since the 
system upgraded to 6.0.1 without your realising it, perhaps it has kept up 
with any updates that there are.  A slimmed down Squeeze is not going to have 
many updates. 

But I meant to ask you for your sources.list and mistakenly asked you 
for /etc/apt/interfaces, which you had told me was now working.  Sorry. :-(  
Could you post your sources.list?  There are some strange lines in the 

Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 13:30 +, Camaleón wrote:
  From: Ralf Mardorf snipped
  snipped
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 snipped
  Mime-Version: 1.0
  X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 This one looks right.


:)

For this mail I switched to ISO-8859-15 and I'll add the German umlauts
and another German letter called sz to the body:

ä
ö
ü
ß

Has this impact to the header or just to the mail's body?

Those incompatibilities are really annoying.

Is my header still correct translated?

FWIW my Debian install isn't a German install, I chose

Country United Kingdom - en_GB.UTF-8
and just Keymap German

-- Ralf


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Re: x-terminal-emulator does not appear to accept comand line args

2011-06-09 Thread briand
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:24:14 +0100
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:04:02PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
  x-terminal-emulator --geometry=80x50
  
  it doesn't seem to work.
 
 x-terminal-emulator should implement the 'xterm' command-line arguments. xterm
 doesn't accept --geometry=80x50:
 
 Doesn't work:
   x-terminal-emulator --geometry=80x50
   x-terminal-emulator -geometry=80x50
   xterm  --geometry=80x50
   xterm  -geometry=80x50
 
 Does work:
   x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x50
   xterm -geometry 80x50
 
 

Thank you. That does work.


Brian


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Re: x-terminal-emulator does not appear to accept comand line args

2011-06-09 Thread briand
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:29:10 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:40:03 -0700, briand wrote:
 
  On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:59:03 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   if you try, for example,
   
   x-terminal-emulator --geometry=80x50
   
   it doesn't seem to work.
   
   bug ?
  
  Hum... here (lenny) neither works (gnomer-terminal launches but the
  parameter is ignored).
  
  
  I verified again.  gnome-terminal definitely uses the option and
  x-terminal-emulator definitely does not.
  
  This is all kind of silly.
 
 Hum... Jon is right. If we look at the perl script:
 
 sm01@stt008:~$ grep geometry /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
 elsif ($opt eq '-geometry')
   push(@args, --geometry=$arg);
 
 The accepted argument is -geometry that is then converted into gnome-
 terminal parlance (--geometry=).
 

There's still a bug, as the man page brings up the man page/options for 
gnome-terminal which uses --geometry=.

And here's the really interesting part, the x-terminal-emulator script:

  exec('gnome-terminal',@args);

So x-terminal-emulator is using -option, but telling you the whole time that 
it's going to execute gnome-terminal, for which the man page is different from 
what it's actually doing.


Brian


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