Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-16 Thread mkozlows

mvalera;259436 Wrote: 
> We had never tried that, but I just did. It worked!

Oh, excellent.  Well, I may have to Rhapsody it up, then...


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-16 Thread dmcdayton

To Slim Devices crew,

Thanks for great products, I never post, too busy listening.

I need a whole house solution, you're s close to nirvana. Can you
give us an SB3 or receiver that has an IR emitter on itor just a
separate wireless/IR module that we can plug in, set it on desk to
blast IR commands?

If so then can give us a Squeeze Controller Wireless driven IR control
interface that's programmable (using Harmony software?) (Basically acts
like a combination S.Controller/Harmony)

Those IR emitters are really cheap;) 

With this setup, I could control anything from anywhere in the house
via wireless G..eliminates need for IR/RF system, gets around having to
add IR to the Squeeze Controller.

Please please? (Yes, I'll pay extra)


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-17 Thread Bay City

Hello
I am new to the forums.
I was ready to go purchase a Sonos system but I decided to wait until
after CES to see if any new simular devicle would be announced there.

I was pleased to see the Squeezebox Duet.

One thing I would like to do is be able to play my music while my
computer is off. I know that with the Sonos you can run it off an
external networked drive or a NAS. I also know that with the Squuezebox
Duet you can upload your music to a online music locker and keep your
computer turned off.
This music locker idea seems to me to be very time consuming since I
have over 1600 CDs.
and I was wondering if there is a was to play your itunes library off a
NAS or external drive attached to my router?

Any help would be appreaciated and I also like the pricing much better
than the Sonos.

Thanks to the Squeezebox development team.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-17 Thread dem

Bay City;259759 Wrote: 
> One thing I would like to do is be able to play my music while my
> computer is off.
IMHO you'll be happiest with the system if you always have the
SqueezeCenter software running somewhere on your home network.

It can run on certain NAS devices, but that may be slow.  Another
option is to dedicate a small server to running SqueezeCenter.

My approach was to build my own NAS server with a low-power
motherboard.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-17 Thread Omeriah

I am buying a new NAS (not sure which one). It appears that many NAS
boxes come pre-installed with Slimserver/Squeezecenter. But from what I
read, they come pre-installed with a prior version (not SS7) that will
not be compatible with the new controller. Is this correct?  Hoping
that someone from Logitech is reading and can give me some tips on
which NAS boxes to look at.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-17 Thread miked

I'll give my two cents on the Duet.  :)

We have a couple of old slimp3's.  They worked well, but I wanted a
more integrated whole-house solution.  Something with a really nice
remote, rather than having to have squeezeboxes in visible display
everywhere.

I was going to be going with a NuVo Grand Concerto system.  I was a
little displeased with the fact that it couldn't stream off my
computer, and I couldn't do Internet radio -- and the fact that with
our high ceilings and no crawlspace/basement, it was going to be a bear
running the required cat5 through the walls vertically for the control
panels.

Now I'm really looking forward to the Duet.  I'm going to get two
Duets, and four additional receivers ultimately.  In the "media room,"
I'm going to be putting all the receivers in a group, and run them to a
multi-channel amp (a Channel Vision that has the really nice feature
that its channels are turned on with independent auto-music sense on a
channel-by-channel basis).  

Big advantages with this approach:

(1) I just have to run speaker wire in the attic to the ceiling
speakers -- not cat5 wire through the walls.

(2) I get Internet radio.

(3) Cheaper to boot, by a factor of about 1/2 -- and that's considering
the lowest price I could find on the Nuvo stuff (on ebay), at 50 cents
on the dollar.

So to me, the Duet is really going to be a homerun, so long as the s/w
works correctly, etc.  I love the "one remote controls multiple
receivers" strategy.  This was an issue for our back porch, as with the
Nuvo, I didn't want the control panel "exposed" outside, but didn't want
it inside either for convenience.  

As soon as the Duets come out, I'll be getting one as my "test system,"
to make sure everything works the way I hope it to, and then will be
springing for the additional units.  

My only big product wish now is for a squeezebox table radio, similar
to what the Roku boys have.  Would love to get one for my parents so
that they can listen to Polish radio in their house . . . .


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-18 Thread ceejay

Omeriah;26 Wrote: 
> I am buying a new NAS (not sure which one). It appears that many NAS
> boxes come pre-installed with Slimserver/Squeezecenter. But from what I
> read, they come pre-installed with a prior version (not SS7) that will
> not be compatible with the new controller. Is this correct?  Hoping
> that someone from Logitech is reading and can give me some tips on
> which NAS boxes to look at.

This is probably best discussed in the Third Party board.  Remember
that SC7 isn't "released" yet - presumeably this will be linked to the
release of the new hardware products in some way.  Third parties that
have to do integration or testing will always take a while to catch up
-  that's the price you pay for having someone else do that work for
you.

If you want to find out when third parties are going to release 7.0
support you'd best ask them directly!

HTH


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-18 Thread Timinator

Took me two days to get caught up with this thread!  

Respectfully; lot's of you guys are audiofile nerds, which is
great/fine.  

Let me tell you, the Duet, out of the box, is a great thing for the
rest of mankind.   I've been struggling with a Cd30 WIFI system for the
last couple of years.  When if works, it's fine, but still you have no
Wifi remote and my amp that powers all these indoor and outdoor
speakers is on the first story.   We basically live on and listen to
most of the music on the second story.  The new controller will enable
us to access and control the music for the first time.   We can't wait.


With the Cd30, I had their software running continously on the
downstairs computer with about 50GB's of music on it.  The Crown amp
runnig the whole house stereo/speakers is controlled by an X10
electrical switch with remote from anywhere around the house.  Whenever
you want to listen to music, you just turn of the amp via X10 remote
(which are cheap)

Sound quality if just fine for this system as I'm not trying for
anything but background music as we go about our day or for parties.  


Thanks for all the great posts, I learned tons and will buy the Duet as
soon as it's avaialbe.

Tim


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-18 Thread Robin Bowes
rtitmuss wrote:
> krikor;260123 Wrote: 
>> mvalera in a previous post in this thread indicated that they were not
>> sure this was possible.  I'm just trying to determine if I purchase
>> just the controller and make it work as I've already got plenty of
>> SB3s.  I did see that "Robin Bowes" indicates that this will work ...
>> just looking for official confirmation.
> 
> Right now this is not possible, but we may enable it in a future
> Squeezebox firmware upgrade.

Oops, my apologies. I thought this worked.

Looks like you'll need a wireless access point for now.

R.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-18 Thread krikor

bonze;259390 Wrote: 
> Do you mean connecting to the wireless SB3 and then talking to the SC
> via ethernet?

Precisely:

Controller >>>wireless SB3 wired server running SC


mvalera in a previous post in this thread indicated that they were not
sure this was possible.  I'm just trying to determine if I purchase
just the controller and make it work as I've already got plenty of
SB3s.  I did see that "Robin Bowes" indicates that this will work ...
just looking for official confirmation.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-18 Thread rtitmuss

krikor;260123 Wrote: 
> mvalera in a previous post in this thread indicated that they were not
> sure this was possible.  I'm just trying to determine if I purchase
> just the controller and make it work as I've already got plenty of
> SB3s.  I did see that "Robin Bowes" indicates that this will work ...
> just looking for official confirmation.

Right now this is not possible, but we may enable it in a future
Squeezebox firmware upgrade.

Richard


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread Bily

I have already a Squeezebox. If I want to add the new remote, the price
is 299$. This is way too much. Could there be a special price for
customers like us? Anyway 299$ is just too much for the controller!


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread dem

Bily;261020 Wrote: 
> I have already a Squeezebox. If I want to add the new remote, the price
> is 299$. This is way too much. Could there be a special price for
> customers like us? Anyway 299$ is just too much for the controller!

Do you think there are any customers -not- "like us", people without
any Squeezboxes who want to buy just the remote?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread Bay City

One quick question

Does the new Squeezebox Duet support podcast and playlist that I
created in itunes? And if it does will things such as playcounts be
imported to the duet and remembered by itunes while using the duet?

Can`t wait to buy one. Soon I hope?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread EnochLight

Bay City;261030 Wrote: 
> One quick question
> 
> Does the new Squeezebox Duet support podcast and playlist that I
> created in itunes? And if it does will things such as playcounts be
> imported to the duet and remembered by itunes while using the duet?
> 
> Can`t wait to buy one. Soon I hope?

The Duet "Receiver" works identicle to a regular Squeezebox... minus
the display.  So yeah, iTunes playlists and podcasts can be played back
fine.  I don't think it does playcounts or ratings, but I could be
wrong.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread Richie

The original press release mentioned the Duet being available in January
for both the USA and Europe. Is this still likely?

More importantly, for me, will the Controller be available on it's own
at the same time? If not, when am I likely to be able to get my hands
on one in the UK?

I only ask since having seen the video of the Controller in action I'm
now quite impatient to get hold of one. I've pretty much given up using
my nokia 770 as I find it too slow, the Controller looks so much more
responsive.

Thanks

Richard


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread EnochLight

Richie;261215 Wrote: 
> The original press release mentioned the Duet being available in January
> for both the USA and Europe. Is this still likely?

I think the current state is a February release, possibly taking
pre-orders by the end of January.  *crosses fingers*

;-)


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread pnielsen

Bily;261020 Wrote: 
> I have already a Squeezebox. If I want to add the new remote, the price
> is 299$. This is way too much. Could there be a special price for
> customers like us? Anyway 299$ is just too much for the controller!

If that is the case, then simply pick up a Nokia 770 on eBay... Not the
same performance, but you do save about $130...

I think the price of the controller is right on target! 

You can buy additional regular remotes for $19.99. The controller is a
luxury item that nobody "needs". 

I'm s happy that they made this item available! At $299 it is
really affordable. (I'd hate spending close to $200 on a Nokia 770 that
would still require a lot of my time for tweaking, yet, in the end the
770 would never work as well as a dedicated device like the controller
will).

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread pnielsen

Bily;261020 Wrote: 
> I have already a Squeezebox. If I want to add the new remote, the price
> is 299$. This is way too much. Could there be a special price for
> customers like us? Anyway 299$ is just too much for the controller!

If that is the case, then simply pick up a Nokia 770 on eBay... Not the
same performance, but you do save about $130...

I think the price of the controller is right on target! 

You can buy additional regular remotes for $19.99. The controller is a
luxury item that no Squeezebox/Transporter owner really "needs".
(Receiver owners will need one, but that's not part of this
conversation). 

I'm s happy that they made this item available! At $299 it is
really affordable. (I'd hate spending close to $200 on a Nokia 770 that
will still require a lot of my time for tweaking, yet, in the end the
770 would never work as well as a dedicated device like the controller
will).

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-21 Thread bpa

Ripcaster in the UK have priced the controller and receiver separately.

https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/282


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread robroe

Bay City;261030 Wrote: 
> One quick question
> 
> Does the new Squeezebox Duet support podcast and playlist that I
> created in itunes? And if it does will things such as playcounts be
> imported to the duet and remembered by itunes while using the duet?
> 
> Can`t wait to buy one. Soon I hope?

The new Squeezebox should support podcasts and playlists through the
standard SqueezeCenter (the server bit) functionality. Playcounts etc
can be updated in iTunes using plugins like TrackStat or iTunesUpdate.


Essentially you should be able to do what ever you can do on the
Squeezebox "classic" as the boxes are essentially quite dumb and just
get told what to do by the server. 

pnielsen;261273 Wrote: 
> 
> I'm s happy that they made this item available! At $299 it is
> really affordable. (I'd hate spending close to $200 on a Nokia 770 that
> will still require a lot of my time for tweaking, yet, in the end the
> 770 would never work as well as a dedicated device like the controller
> will).
> 
> Peter

I guess the value of a dedicated controller vs a Nokia/iPod depends on
whether you would use the other devices for anything else or just as an
alternative dedicated controller.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread bigfool1956

advancedmp3players.co.uk are showing the duet as being expected on 31st
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread Sike

RE delivery date: All of the dealers in Switzerland are saying it will
be availible in 17 days... but it has been stuck at that (17 days) for
around a week now. These dates are usually quite reliable..


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread robroe

bigfool1956;261428 Wrote: 
> advancedmp3players.co.uk are showing the duet as being expected on 31st
> January

Wow! Both advancedmp3 and ripcaster are selling just the (admittedly
fancy) controller for approx $40 more than they are selling a whole
Squeezebox 3 for :S 

That is also the same price as you can grab a brand new iPod Touch for.
Probably not a fair comparison due to the economies of scale in action
(and them arguably being different devices) but they are still
competing for the same money I have in my wallet.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread Nostromo

Its not just a fancy controller, its also a Squeezebox. It can play
music.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread robroe

Nostromo;261443 Wrote: 
> Its not just a fancy controller, its also a Squeezebox. It can play
> music.

As I understand it the controller cant play music at the moment
although it potentially could in the future. 

The UK prices appear to be:

Receiver - £99
Squeezebox 3 - £179
Controller   - £199
iPod Touch   - £199
Duet - £279

The prices for the receiver, SB3, iPod and duet make sense to me, but
the controller seems a little over priced. This is more a complaint
about the UK retailers grasp of currency conversion than anything else.
I obviously dont know what they are paying wholesale but I'm guessing
its not the US retail price. I know it is a new product and it will
demand a premium because of that but I hope market forces come into
play shortly!


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread autopilot

Right now the controller is a little over priced for what it does - once
the controller is updated to playback functionality and the IR emitter
is made use of (for powering AMP's on/off etc) it will be well worth
the price IMO. Leaving it to the community im not sure is the best idea
alone - i would like to hear Logitech themselves say that development it
this area will definitely happen.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread Ben Sandee
On Jan 22, 2008 11:27 AM, autopilot <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Right now the controller is a little over priced for what it does - once
> the controller is updated to playback functionality and the IR emitter
> is made use of (for powering AMP's on/off etc) it will be well worth
> the price IMO. Leaving it to the community im not sure is the best idea
> alone - i would like to hear Logitech themselves say that development it
> this area will definitely happen.


If it's important to you then I think that nobody, including Logitech, would
fault you for waiting to purchase until it's available.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread maggior

autopilot;261478 Wrote: 
> Right now the controller is a little over priced for what it does - once
> the controller is updated to playback functionality and the IR emitter
> is made use of (for powering AMP's on/off etc) it will be well worth
> the price IMO. Leaving it to the community im not sure is the best idea
> alone - i would like to hear Logitech themselves say that development it
> this area will definitely happen.

I agree.  I love the idea of having a portable squeezebox device I can
carry around the house and plug headphones into.  

Personally, I'll hold off on the new remote until there is something
more concrete regarding this functionality.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-22 Thread autopilot

That said, it's still the best way to control a SB and much better VFM
than the Sono's ;)


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-23 Thread bouton

I've tried to go through the 49+ pages of this forum and just want to
make sure I've got this right.

I have 3 slimp3s hardwired (built into the walls actually) of a house
connected into the multiroom audio system. The controlling PC sits in a
cupboard in the garage, also hardwired into the LAN. I like have the
screen visible - use them for weather,time,alarm,train scheds, news ...
the whole shebang.  It works just like I like it Except for those times
when I want to peruse the music, albums covers etc to play music.  I
have toyed with the idea of the Nokia800 but it seems that the new
controller may be the better (faster though less expandable) way to
go.

Is this correct? To get it to work with my system pf slimp3, is all I
have to do is:
1) buy the controller
2) put a wifi access point into the house LAN
3) upgrade slimserver 6.5.x to slimserver 7.x

Also - does one controller work all 3 slimp3 separately - is there like
on the server a pull down list of which slimp3 I want to direct the
commands to?

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-23 Thread ModelCitizen

Bouton,
As long as SC7 is OK for slimp3s then you are right, all you'll need is
a wireless signal and the Controller enables you to select which player
to control.
I think you'll really impressed by the remote. It is very responsive,
totally unlike using the web interface via any other hand held.
Your whole-house set up is exactly what it is made for (assuming
Slimp3s work the same as SB2/3/Receivers/Transporters).

The way the Receiver/Controller has been priced and the improvements in
SC7 (esp synchronisation) alone makes it obvious that Logitech are
looking very firmly at whole-house zoned (and synched) audio.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-23 Thread bouton

will keep an eye on developments - maybe try out sc7 first.
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-24 Thread liffy99

Duet - looks like a nice alternative to the SB3 though I'll not be
rushing out to get one if it offers no audio quality improvement (not
that my SB3 with external DAC is bad in any way).
It was irritating though to find that the Duet needs a 9v supply unlike
the 5v of the SB3. What would I do with my current investment in a
linear, regulated model ?
I'm no electrical engineer but do get more and more hacked off with
needing dozens of wall warts etc where every product seems to have a
slightly different need (they come with different power ratings,
physical configurations, plug diameters etc). Would it not be possible
to standardise supplies around 2 or three alternatives (eg 5v, 12v,
18v) so at least there's the possibility of using existing gear ? Could
the duet have been made to work with 5V (esp if the receiver circuitry
is much the same) 
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-24 Thread Charles Calkins

Hey Guys pardon me for being so dense but does the Duet have a volume
control like the SB3?

Cheers
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-24 Thread radish

Charles Calkins;262256 Wrote: 
> Hey Guys pardon me for being so dense but does the Duet have a volume
> control like the SB3?
> 
> Cheers
> Charlie

Yes, the receiver is functionally exactly the same as the SB3, minus
the screen.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-25 Thread Michaelwagner

Michael Herger;254883 Wrote: 
> That said we would be very happy if somebody was able to implement a web
> browser for it :-).
> Michael

On that little screen? What's the point?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-25 Thread Michael Herger
> On that little screen? What's the point?

- SC specific applications, like eg. displaying a plugin's output, without the 
need to create a Jive specific applet; SBC isn't strong when it comes to 
layout. Biographies etc. would be much more readable with a bit of style
- general browsing, meteo, ...

Every phone features a browser nowadays. There seems to be a use case. I'm 
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-25 Thread Michaelwagner

Michael Herger;262361 Wrote: 
> Every phone features a browser nowadays. There seems to be a use case.
> I'm using it all the time.
My blackberry has a browser. It seems to be the next best thing to
useless. The controller screen is of about the same size (I didn't put
them side by side yet). I can't imagine, except for very specific
purposes, web sites designed for display on the controller, etc, it
would be worth much (certainly not if any effort was involved in
writing the browser).

Perhaps there's one we can port without too much trouble 


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-25 Thread Taylormade

Is there an availability date yet?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-25 Thread bobv

IRBlaster is such a natural accessory that, if anything, I'd hope to see
it become part of the stock package.  Making it not even an option seems
like a bad call, especially on a unit that can be hidden away with all
its cabling.  I just received mine this past Monday, took all of ten
minutes to install and set up the plugin, and now I can't believe I've
been SB'ing without it all these years.   It goes really well (using an
SB2) with the new SB Controller too -- no more trips to the
entertainment center to get things started, change what's playing, or
power everything down.  Just completely convenient music.

While enabling the SBC's IR to control receivers would be nifty, it'd
still feel like an awkward step backwards (a wifi controller that still
requires line-of-sight to turn things on and off?) to me.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread Taxcheat

I'm one of the people Logitech wanted to entice with the Duet -- a
wholly new user. I have a QNAP TS-209 nas that I've been cramming with
FLACs of my cds and got hooked on streaming (mp3 only) to my stereo via
PS3. 

1. I did not see a clear answer other than the discussion of the DAC
chip to this question: Can the SBR play 24 bit, 96khz or 24bit,
88.2khz? I believe SB3 only does 24 bit 48khz.

I love the Tallis Scholars and their newer albums are available in
48/88.2/96. Even if I can't hear the difference, might as well pay the
extra $4 for the best.

2. Where's the best place to look for discussion of a good (but < $1k)
speaker/amp or powered speaker set up for a smallish bedroom with no
size or Wife Acceptance Factor constraints? I saw 2 intriguing options
in this thread, but not quite what I wanted.

3. Nerdy question. Can you program the squeeze center so that music can
be set up according to a calendar? E.g., most of the Bach Cantatas were
written for specific days. It'd be neat to just hit the power button in
the morning and have the system start playing something appropriate
without needing to fiddle.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread funkstar

Taxcheat;262743 Wrote: 
> 3. Nerdy question. Can you program the squeeze center so that music can
> be set up according to a calendar? E.g., most of the Bach Cantatas were
> written for specific days. It'd be neat to just hit the power button in
> the morning and have the system start playing something appropriate
> without needing to fiddle.
No, but I'm sure a plugin could be written if youare Perl inclined :)


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread chale2

since there appears to be some browser functionality, is it going to be
possible to add flash based stations to the new squeezecenter and the
controller/duet?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread chale2

the audioengine 5 is a great choice. I also like some of the m-audio
powered speakers.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread WndrMke

My set-up consists of 2 SB3's & 1 SB2 all hard wired to my LAN,
Slimserver 6.5.4 running on a ReadyNAS NV, and no wireless network in
the house, I have no need for another SB. If I buy the SB Duet and plug
the receiver into my router will that allow the SB Controller to
interface with the SB's?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread Michaelwagner

WndrMke;262815 Wrote: 
> Slimserver 6.5.4 running on a ReadyNAS NV, [...] If I buy the SB Duet
> and plug the receiver into my router will that allow the SB Controller
> to interface with the SB's?
There are 2 parts to this answer:
1. the SB receiver can set up a local ad-hoc network for the controller
to run on. So can either of the SB3s. You might chose one or the other,
depending on where you are most often going to use the controller and
where the various SBs are.
2. the Duet requires Slimserver 7. Can the ReadyNAS run 7? I don't know
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread Pale Blue Ego

WndrMke;262815 Wrote: 
> My set-up consists of 2 SB3's & 1 SB2 all hard wired to my LAN,
> Slimserver 6.5.4 running on a ReadyNAS NV, and no wireless network in
> the house, I have no need for another SB. If I buy the SB Duet and plug
> the receiver into my router will that allow the SB Controller to
> interface with the SB's?

Uh...maybe.  When connected via ethernet, the SBR *appears* to act as a
wi-fi access point for the SB Controller.  Not sure if this currently
works or is supported.  I ran into this when troubleshooting the Duet
system the other day and wasn't able to successfully use it.

It would certainly be nice if those of us with wired networks could add
a Duet system without having to buy a wi-fi router.  We'll have to get
Slim to clarify if this is going to be implemented in the future.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread WndrMke

Michaelwagner;262825 Wrote: 
> There are 2 parts to this answer:
> 1. the SB receiver can set up a local ad-hoc network for the controller
> to run on. So can either of the SB3s. You might chose one or the other,
> depending on where you are most often going to use the controller and
> where the various SBs are.
> 2. the Duet requires Slimserver 7. Can the ReadyNAS run 7? I don't know
> the answer.

I think I found the answer to 2 earlier in this thread to be yes, if
not I'll just use the NAS to store and run 7 on my computer.

The NAS in in my office, across a large room (40' away) from where one
of the SB3 is connected to my main AV system, it's connected to a
switch that the SB3 in my bedroom is also connected to through a shared
wall. The SB2 is connected to another switch in a bedroom that I use as
a home gym.

Most listening is done through the main system. My plan is to connect
the Duet receiver to my router in the office without audio connections
to it, then use the controller throughout the house.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread Pale Blue Ego

Taxcheat;262743 Wrote: 
> 2. Where's the best place to look for discussion of a good (but < $1k)
> speaker/amp or powered speaker set up for a smallish bedroom with no
> size or Wife Acceptance Factor constraints? I saw 2 intriguing options
> in this thread, but not quite what I wanted.

I suggested this set in another thread.  These would totally KILL in a
small room:

Audio Advisor has a nice deal on the excellent NHT biamped active
monitors, the M-00 ($250 each).

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NHTM00

And the matching powered sub for M-00 ($499):

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NHTS00

If that's too much money (or too much speaker), try the AudioEngine 5
at $350, or the Audioengine 2 ($200) or the Acoustic Energy Aego-M
($200).  All of these systems are powered, and will sound great in a
small to medium sized room.

Taxcheat;262743 Wrote: 
> 3. Nerdy question. Can you program the squeeze center so that music can
> be set up according to a calendar? E.g., most of the Bach Cantatas were
> written for specific days. It'd be neat to just hit the power button in
> the morning and have the system start playing something appropriate
> without needing to fiddle.

You can have a different alarm playlist for each of the 7 days of the
week.  Anything more complex than that would require a custom plugin -
but it might be pretty easy to adapt the days-of-week alarm code to
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Herger
> since there appears to be some browser functionality

There's no browser functionality as in "web browsing".

> , is it going to be
> possible to add flash based stations to the new squeezecenter and the
> controller/duet?

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-26 Thread Strobe_UK

I have had a trawl through this thread but can't see that this question
has been asnwered, if it has, apologies ...

I am looking to get a wired link-up between my pc and my hifi.  Both
are in the same room within a few metres of each other and I am happy
controlling the music played from the pc.  The pc is always on and hard
wired via ethernet to my adsl router.

Can I ethernet one of the new receivers to the pc and set it up from
the pc without needing the controller?  Or do I need the controller,
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-27 Thread pichonCalavera

Strobe_UK;262913 Wrote: 
> 
> Can I ethernet one of the new receivers to the pc and set it up from
> the pc without needing the controller? Or do I need the controller,
> even if there is no wireless connection?
> 

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-27 Thread ModelCitizen

Strobe_UK;262913 Wrote: 
> Can I ethernet one of the new receivers to the pc and set it up from the
> pc without needing the controller?  Or do I need the controller, even if
> there is no wireless connection?
This functionality will be along very soon. It is being worked on at
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-27 Thread Taxcheat

Pale Blue Ego;262831 Wrote: 
> You can have a different alarm playlist for each of the 7 days of the
> week.  Anything more complex than that would require a custom plugin -
> but it might be pretty easy to adapt the days-of-week alarm code to
> create a days-of-month or even a days-of-year alarm clock.

Brilliant -- that would mean I could even skip the "turn the sb3 on"
step.

Thanks all  for the speaker tips as well. It has given me plenty of
things to research. The Audioengine 5 bugs me since it doesn't have RCA
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-27 Thread ModelCitizen

Pale Blue Ego;262831 Wrote: 
>  You can have a different alarm playlist for each of the 7 days of the
> week.  Anything more complex than that would require a custom plugin -
> but it might be pretty easy to adapt the days-of-week alarm code to
> create a days-of-month or even a days-of-year alarm clock.

I seem to remember that KDF made some sort of custom alarm plugin.
Might be worth looking at the plugins page, although somehow I doubt if
it'll be able to pull up a different piece of music for every day.

He seems to have a page of plugins here. SC7 only.
http://code.google.com/p/kdfplugins/downloads/list

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-27 Thread jgs

kunze;255523 Wrote: 
> Hi,
> I think its a shame that the IR Blaster port has been removed.
> 

I think so too.  Seems like a key feature for a faceless receiver box
-- kind of bizarre that the only members of the product line that
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-28 Thread jgs

Bizarroterl;263404 Wrote: 
> I don't see the problem.  If you want an IR Blaster order the SB3.  The
> Duet is positioned to compete with the Sonos, a market where the added
> complexity of a IR blaster system is a liability.

Gee.  I don't pretend to know (or care, much) about how it's
"positioned" but I do know that I (and the previous poster) have an
application for a faceless box with an IR blaster.  The application
should be fairly obvious, and indeed the OP spelled it out.  "Order the
SB3" isn't the ideal answergiven that I (and others, blah blah)
don't need a display on the unit.  I don't see this "added complexity"
you speak of, considering that we're just talking about a minijack,
which you need not use if you don't care to.

Great that it works for you sans minijack.  


  Though admittedly the only feasible one under the circumstances.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-28 Thread Bizarroterl

jgs;263193 Wrote: 
> I think so too.  Seems like a key feature for a faceless receiver box --
> kind of bizarre that the only members of the product line that support
> it are the ones that have integrated displays.

I don't see the problem.  If you want an IR Blaster order the SB3.  The
Duet is positioned to compete with the Sonos, a market where the added
complexity of a IR blaster system is a liability.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-28 Thread Michaelwagner

I'm not a big user of the RF blaster (no user at all of the feature,
actually), but I do use the headphone jack a lot. 

If there's no jack for the RF blaster, there's no jack for the
headphones either. Now, to me at least, that does seem like a
substantial change from the SB3.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-28 Thread slimkid

jgs;263422 Wrote: 
> ... I don't see this "added complexity" you speak of, considering that
> we're just talking about a minijack, which you need not use if you
> don't care to...
> 

Well, if you think it's just a minijack, then go ahead. Drill a hole
and stick one into it and things are good to go :)

Seriously, I doubt that most of people even knows what the IR blaster
is. Probably quite a few would miss the ability to use the headphones.
However, this unit is half the price of the SB3, and some things have
had to be deleted. Headphone jack means also headphone amp circuitry,
additional power supply for it, obviously more room ... 

I guess, Logitech planners had to draw a line somewhere, and this was
the most optimal solution in their minds. Likely because the controller
will eventually get sound.

BTW, out of topic, but these days there's a lot of unsettled dust
around Apple's decision to charge for the software update to their iPod
touch. So, some people have had a device for 6 weeks only, and they
already have to pay for email and mapping software, which, as they
feel, should have been there to begin with, and new users are getting
for free. Now, compare that to what we get with Logitech.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread Peter


Pale Blue Ego wrote:
>
> Uh...maybe.  When connected via ethernet, the SBR *appears* to act as a
> wi-fi access point for the SB Controller.  Not sure if this currently
> works or is supported.  I ran into this when troubleshooting the Duet
> system the other day and wasn't able to successfully use it.
>
> It would certainly be nice if those of us with wired networks could add
> a Duet system without having to buy a wi-fi router.  We'll have to get
> Slim to clarify if this is going to be implemented in the future.
>   

According to SD this does not work in the current implementation.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread Peter
liffy99 wrote:
> Duet - looks like a nice alternative to the SB3 though I'll not be
> rushing out to get one if it offers no audio quality improvement (not
> that my SB3 with external DAC is bad in any way).
> It was irritating though to find that the Duet needs a 9v supply unlike
> the 5v of the SB3. What would I do with my current investment in a
> linear, regulated model ?
> I'm no electrical engineer but do get more and more hacked off with
> needing dozens of wall warts etc where every product seems to have a
> slightly different need (they come with different power ratings,
> physical configurations, plug diameters etc). Would it not be possible
> to standardise supplies around 2 or three alternatives (eg 5v, 12v,
> 18v) so at least there's the possibility of using existing gear ? Could
> the duet have been made to work with 5V (esp if the receiver circuitry
> is much the same) 
> Ah well . . . .
>   


Everybody hates wall warts. Many devices nowadays can be powered from 
USB. There are 'wall warts' and 'car warts' (just invented a new word) 
that you can connect a USB cable to to power these things. It would be 
an improvement if things could standardize on that, although, I'm not 
sure if they provide enough power for things like SB3's.

Another attractive option is power over ethernet, at least if you're 
running a wired network.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread Michaelwagner

I'm not sure where the idea came from that it is a 9Vt power supply.
Mine says 6.8Vt on it.

Hmm...the specs say 9Vt, 550ma min, but I got a 6.8V, 500ma supply.
Maybe someone shipped me the wrong thing 


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread dean blackketter

On Jan 29, 2008, at 12:22 AM, Peter wrote:

>
>
> Pale Blue Ego wrote:
>>
>> Uh...maybe.  When connected via ethernet, the SBR *appears* to act  
>> as a
>> wi-fi access point for the SB Controller.  Not sure if this currently
>> works or is supported.  I ran into this when troubleshooting the Duet
>> system the other day and wasn't able to successfully use it.
>>
>> It would certainly be nice if those of us with wired networks  
>> could add
>> a Duet system without having to buy a wi-fi router.  We'll have to  
>> get
>> Slim to clarify if this is going to be implemented in the future.
>>
>
> According to SD this does not work in the current implementation.

It does, sorry for the confusion.

The Receiver can be connected via ethernet and act as a bridge to the  
Controller, though we are working through a couple of setup bugs now.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread MuckleEck

Sike;263727 Wrote: 
> I am sorry to bring up the "release date" issue again .. but I just
> can't wait .. there is no information anywhere .. Begining/Mid/End Feb?

ripcaster.co.uk are saying "expected 1st Feb"...mine is on order can't
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread maggior

Michaelwagner;263432 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> If there's no jack for the RF blaster, there's no jack for the
> headphones either. Now, to me at least, that does seem like a
> substantial change from the SB3.

My experience has shown that the headphone jack on the SB3 is pretty
poor.  I just have a modest set of Sony headphones and was very
underwhelmed by the sound quality and noise level.  

So I moved to a portable headphone amp connected to the analog outs of
the SB3.  The sound quality through this is awesome.

My point is that though there is a headphone jack on the SB3, it isn't
exactly a good one and probably not up to the task for a lot of people.
I'm not sure it will be missed much.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread Sike

I am sorry to bring up the "release date" issue again .. but I just
can't wait .. there is no information anywhere .. Begining/Mid/End Feb?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread dean blackketter
An earlier design used a 6.8v power supply, and there were some  
prototypes made that used that voltage.

The final design uses 9V.

-dean

On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:55 AM, Michaelwagner wrote:

>
> I'm not sure where the idea came from that it is a 9Vt power supply.
> Mine says 6.8Vt on it.
>
> Hmm...the specs say 9Vt, 550ma min, but I got a 6.8V, 500ma supply.
> Maybe someone shipped me the wrong thing 
>
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread Michaelwagner

dean blackketter;263820 Wrote: 
> An earlier design used a 6.8v power supply, and there were some
> prototypes made that used that voltage.
> 
> The final design uses 9V.
> 
> -dean
> 
Dean: Does that relate to the peak-to-peak voltage out? I seem to
recall you saying a while ago that the SB3s could use a high voltage
rail from the display, but the display-less receiver couldn't do that.

Interestingly enough, the sticker on my receiver says 9Vt, but the wall
wart is a 6.8 Vt. Is this going to work (I haven't even plugged it in
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-29 Thread seanadams

Michaelwagner;263834 Wrote: 
> Dean: Does that relate to the peak-to-peak voltage out? I seem to recall
> you saying a while ago that the SB3s could use a high voltage rail from
> the display, but the display-less receiver couldn't do that.
> 
> Interestingly enough, the sticker on my receiver says 9Vt, but the wall
> wart is a 6.8 Vt. Is this going to work (I haven't even plugged it in
> yet!).

Unrelated - receiver is internally regulated. 9V was selected mainly
because it's widely available, but the system would run (unsupported by
us) on lower voltages. 6.8 is probably close to the minimum.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-30 Thread Sike

I decided to call Logitech HQ in Switzerland, and they say "Another 4
weeks until it ships to retailers" .. this could only be Switzerland
though..


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-30 Thread Sike

> ripcaster.co.uk are saying "expected 1st Feb"...mine is on order can't
> wait!

Here (Switzerland) it seems to be mid Feb, but it looks like the date
is just no longer updating... it has been stuck on 17days a over a week
now..

I remember reading in this thread that they are having problems with
the setup process ..

Why does Slim say that "We will not comment on future products" .. whip
them out at CES and then refuse to commment on when they are being going
to be availible?


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-30 Thread dean blackketter
Speaking from the Logitech regional office in Mountain View,  
California, I can tell you that the hardware is being manufactured in  
China right now, but there are some slow downs there due to snow that  
the region rarely sees.  (A couple of our guys nearly got stuck at  
the factory last week!)

We're also putting the finishing touches on the software (See our  
open bugs here: http://tinyurl.com/36bvr5 ).

So, it's a race between the weather in China and the software being  
ready for released to the world.

It won't be perfect when it ships in a few weeks, but we'll be  
continuing to work on the software for subsequent releases in the  
following weeks and months.

Thanks for your patience,

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-30 Thread MuckleEck

Sike;263957 Wrote: 
> I decided to call Logitech HQ in Switzerland, and they say "Another 4
> weeks until it ships to retailers" .. this could only be Switzerland
> though..


Ah wellwill have to wait, I pinged ripcaster an e-mail and no
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread mflint

Martin_z;264282 Wrote: 
> Has the controller got a headphone socket?  (Even if it's not
> implemented yet?)
Yes - and it's not implemented yet :-)
Martin_z;264282 Wrote: 
> I have two squeezeboxes so I think I only need a controller - right?
Right.
Martin_z;264282 Wrote: 
> And where do I find squeeze centre 7?
http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/7.0/


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread Martin_z

...but with nearly fifty pages to scroll through, it wouldn't be a
surprise if it was missed.

Has the controller got a headphone socket?  (Even if it's not
implemented yet?)  I think the idea of picking up the controller,
dialling up what you want and playing it through headphones (as opposed
to the squeezeboxen) would be excellent.

I have two squeezeboxes so I think I only need a controller - right? 
(And where do I find squeeze centre 7? - it's not obvious where the
download is.)

Thanks.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread Martin_z

Thanks for that rapid response.

A bit puzzled about the SqueezeCentre 7 - if Squeezebox Duet is just
about to be released, and it only works with SC 7, I would have sort of
expected a formal release of SC 7 by now

...still...


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread Marc Sherman
Martin_z wrote:
> Thanks for that rapid response.
> 
> A bit puzzled about the SqueezeCentre 7 - if Squeezebox Duet is just
> about to be released, and it only works with SC 7, I would have sort of
> expected a formal release of SC 7 by now

If I recall correctly, SS6 was still getting last minute bug fixes right
up to the day that transporters were available in stores. I'd expect SC7
to go GA the day the hardware is available.

I'd also expect a few point releases to follow very shortly afterwards.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread ModelCitizen

Marc Sherman;264410 Wrote: 
> If I recall correctly, SS6 was still getting last minute bug fixes right
> up to the day that transporters were available in stores
And after.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread Michaelwagner

They don't call it the bleeding edge for nuthin' :-)


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread EnochLight

Marc Sherman;264410 Wrote: 
> ..If I recall correctly, SS6 was still getting last minute bug fixes
> right up to the day that transporters were available in stores...I'd
> also expect a few point releases to follow very shortly afterwards.
> 
> - Marc

The way Slim Devices works, in regards to SqueezeCenter (or SlimServer
before it) is quite... "unique".. compared to other software companies.
The only other experience I have ever had with beta testing software on
a regular basis has been with a Swedish company called Propellerhead and
with Adobe, and both of those companies work in the exact opposite
fashion of how Slim works.

Not saying either way is better or worse, just.. "different".. ;-P


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-31 Thread Ben Sandee
On Jan 31, 2008 10:39 PM, EnochLight <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> The way Slim Devices works, in regards to SqueezeCenter (or SlimServer
> before it) is quite... "unique".. compared to other software companies.


The problem is that they aren't really a software company.  If you want to
draw a comparison I would suggest comparing to driver manufacturers for your
NIC, mouse, motherboard, etc.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread Michaelwagner

I've participated in another beta test situation, many years ago, and it
was quite different and secretive. I find the Slim openness quite
refreshing. For Betas that don't require special hardware, basically
anyone can participate. If you don't have the skills, you probably
shouldn't, but no one stops you from contributing, to the level that
you are able.

Personally, I find this a good thing.

I'm not doing a whole lot of participating at the moment, because of
family illness and change-of-work pressure, and yet there's no one
hounding me and saying I'm not living up to my responsibilities as a
beta tester.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread Robin Bowes
EnochLight wrote:
> Marc Sherman;264410 Wrote: 
>> ..If I recall correctly, SS6 was still getting last minute bug fixes
>> right up to the day that transporters were available in stores...I'd
>> also expect a few point releases to follow very shortly afterwards.
>>
>> - Marc
> 
> The way Slim Devices works, in regards to SqueezeCenter (or SlimServer
> before it) is quite... "unique".. compared to other software companies.
> The only other experience I have ever had with beta testing software on
> a regular basis has been with a Swedish company called Propellerhead and
> with Adobe, and both of those companies work in the exact opposite
> fashion of how Slim works.
> 
> Not saying either way is better or worse, just.. "different".. ;-P

None of the software either of those companies produces is Open Source, 
so it is quite understandable that the development model and beta 
testing programme are different.

R.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread radish

I've done testing for a number of companies and there is certainly a
range of attitudes in regard to the level of secrecy etc. To me it
seems that the more innovative and interesting the product, the more
open the dev & test process. From my experience on the open side you
have companies like Serato, JetBrains and Ableton, and on the less open
side you have MS, Rio (RIP), and Sony. I agree that the transparency and
lack of legal BS from Logitech/SD is refreshing - long may it continue
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread Siduhe

The other key difference in approach (IMHO) is the committment to cycle
of continuous improvment in both release and beta software.  This may
be what Robin was referring to above about the open source approach?  

Can't think of too many other companies that do nightly releases of
their software...although I also think that has quite a bit to do with
the skill and enthusiasm of this community.  From a business
perspective, with all highly skilled resource available for free, SD
would be crazy not to take advantage of that.  A virtuous circle if you
will.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread radish

Bay City;264753 Wrote: 
> I was just over to a friends house looking at his Sonos system, I was
> very much impressed.
> However I am waiting to buy the Squeezbox Duet when it is released. The
> main reason is the price, Sono cost way to much for me.
> One question, on his Sonos he has his itunes library playing on a NAS
> hooked up to his router, this way he can play his music while his
> computer is turned off.
> 
> Will the Squeezebox Duet operate the same way?
> thanks

Yes, if you have a NAS capable of running SqueezeCenter. There are a
number which will happily run SlimServer (the previous version) - I
don't know how many have yet been tested with SC. Check the 3rd Party
Hardware forum for more discussion.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread Bay City

I was just over to a friends house looking at his Sonos system, I was
very much impressed.
However I am waiting to buy the Squeezbox Duet when it is released. The
main reason is the price, Sono cost way to much for me.
One question, on his Sonos he has his itunes library playing on a NAS
hooked up to his router, this way he can play his music while his
computer is turned off.

Will the Squeezebox Duet operate the same way?
thanks


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread Jim Holtz

Have the jitter figures been announced yet and how do they compare to
the Squeezebox? I'm using a modified SB2 as a transport right now. I
wouldn't mind selling the SB2 and getting a Duet if it's as good of
transport as the SB2 is.

Jim


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread seanadams

Jim Holtz;264776 Wrote: 
> Have the jitter figures been announced yet and how do they compare to
> the Squeezebox? I'm using a modified SB2 as a transport right now. I
> wouldn't mind selling the SB2 and getting a Duet if it's as good of
> transport as the SB2 is.
> 
> Jim

As a digital transport, Duet's Receiver performs identically to SB2 and
SB3.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-01 Thread Jim Holtz

seanadams;264779 Wrote: 
> As a digital transport, Duet's Receiver performs identically to SB2 and
> SB3.

Thanks Sean! Exactly what I wanted to hear.

Jim


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-02 Thread Jim Holtz

I have one more question. Is there an extended warranty or a set fee to
repair the remote if it should fail once it's out of warranty?  I would
hate to have to shell out $300 for a new remote. 

I have a universal remote I control all of my components with now and
the originals are tucked away. That isn't possible of course with the
Duet controller.

Thanks!

Jim


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-02 Thread radish

Jim Holtz;265043 Wrote: 
> I have one more question. Is there an extended warranty or a set fee to
> repair the remote if it should fail once it's out of warranty?  I would
> hate to have to shell out $300 for a new remote. 
> 

Can't give you the official answer, but the fee for an out of warranty
SB3 repair seems to be a flat $90. I'm sure there will be some kind of
similar arrangement for the SBC.


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-02 Thread crooner

seanadams;264779 Wrote: 
> As a digital transport, Duet's Receiver performs identically to SB2 and
> SB3.

That's good to hear and provides tremendous value to previous SB2/SB3
owners. No fear of sudden obsolescence!

Can't wait to order my Controller!


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-02 Thread EnochLight

Michaelwagner;264621 Wrote: 
> I'd be curious to know, in more detail, what "opposite" means here.

Slim is open source, and the future version nightlies are released,
well, "nightly"... to all those interested.  

Both Propellerhead and Adobe wouldn't dream of releasing their software
before a lengthy (and private invitation) beta testing session.

Like I said, neither way is better or worse than the other.  It works
well for their respective products.  In fact, I couldn't imagine a
closed source Slim where a new version of SlimServer/SqueezeCenter goes
silent in between releases of several years.  *shivers at the thought*


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-04 Thread mvalera

The warranty period will be 2 years for the Duet.

Our standard out of warranty charge is $90.

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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-04 Thread Jim Holtz

mvalera;265497 Wrote: 
> The warranty period will be 2 years for the Duet.
> 
> Our standard out of warranty charge is $90.
> 
> Mike

Hi Mike,

Does that include the remote controller too?

Jim


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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-04 Thread mvalera

The Squeezebox Receiver and Controller will both have 2 year warranties
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Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-02-04 Thread Jim Holtz

mvalera;265527 Wrote: 
> The Squeezebox Receiver and Controller will both have 2 year warranties
> as well.

Sorry Mike,

I'm trying to pin you down on the repair cost of a controller that
would cease to function after the warranty expired. I'm not talking
about dropping it in water, stepping on it or other obvious abuse. Just
one that quit working with out being abused. The question is, will the
$90 flat rate fix the controller too if there's no sign of abuse?

Thanks!

Jim


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