Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread amtb

Hi
I want to ask about Wednesday  -- Hand coded part programs part 1
Is this programming with G code?
I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every
community college. Help in G code programming is every way.
What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special G
code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To
learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest.
Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 and
it is EMC2 fest.
I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure  and
use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should be
applied to on line school!

Thanks
Aram


>
> Hi Dale
>
> I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together
> into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab.
>
> My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro.
>   Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment.
>   Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces
>   Wednesday  -- Hand coded part programs part 1
>   Thursday   -- Hand coded part programs 2
>   Friday -- Part programming assistants
>
> Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each
> day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help.
>
> I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during
> the week.
>
> Ray
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>>
>> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+)
>> full size mill on EMC2.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Dale
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Re: [Emc-users] Debounce component syntax for multiple groups

2008-05-06 Thread Jeff Epler
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:51:37PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The documentation for the debounce component shows the syntax as:
> loadrt debounce [cfg=size[,size...]]
...

In the next release, the debounce component will be changed so that it
matches the documentation (using spaces to separate options).  If you've
used spaces to separate options, you will have to modify your .hal files
when this release is made.

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Re: [Emc-users] 155 ms real-time delay every 10 minutes?

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote:
> Anders:
> 
> I hesitate to throw what may be just another red herring into the 
> discussion, but there are a number of 600-second defaults floating 
> around Linux, and it is possible you're getting tripped up by one of 
> them rather than by some clock problem.
> 
> For example, by default, the stock Ubuntu 7.10 on my home PC clears the 
> ip4 routing table every 600 seconds (defined in  
> /proc/sys/net/ip4/secret_interval). I would assume the time it takes to 
> do this is dependent on the size of the routing table (this created a 
> problem with a Redhat system we built at work to monitor experiments).
> 
Anything happening in IP routing should be totally unable to 
affect the RT system.  Maybe it does something else at the same 
time that triggers something in the ethernet driver, like a big 
DMA burst.
> I also used to trip over the various ways screen blanking intervals are 
> defined in X11, though that seems an unlikely cause of your problem.
Some of the computers with on-board video handle certain things 
in BIOS ROM routines, and these can cause upsets to the RT 
environment on some machines.  Sometimes you can turn these 
things off, or set them to be done by Linux-level software 
rather than "hidden" features, by turning down the X-windows 
acceleration support in the configuration menu.  I can easily 
see how a screensaver could trigger some bit-blt activity that 
might have side effects.  I think this one is well worth pursuing.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote:
> You get to take your chances. Several of the attendees stayed at the 
> Econo Inn. I stayed there two years ago. 
> They had just changed the beds and the new ones were too firm for me. 
> I will stay at the Holiday Inn Express which is more expensive and 
> farther away; but then my wife will be there
> also. The Econo Inn is about as close as any motel I'm aware of. Price 
> two years ago was $50/nite. 
All the above is true.  But, you can also bring your camper/RV 
and stay AT the Workshop!  There is another low-budget motel 
there that I stayed in a couple years ago.  No way would my 
family stay at such a dive!

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Master-Slave stepper set up

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
> I've in the process of building a two axis machine - using the X and 
> Z axis, and I have a three axis stepper/driver combo already set up 
> and basically ready to go.  I was wondering if there is some way to 
> configure EMC so that I could slave the Y axis to the X axis. and use 
> two steppers, one on each side of the gantry.
There are much better ways to do this.  Depending on the motion 
hardware you have, this slaving can be done in the HAL layer, 
and once it is set up right, you never need to know there are 
two motors moving in unison again.

The tricky bit is to figure out how to get the two sides of the 
gantry synchronized so the machine is "square" and not 
distorted.  The large gantry mills have bearings in the gantry 
towers so that when the gantry sides are out of sync a little it 
doesn't stress or break the machine's structure.  Homing the 
axis brings both sides to preset alignment with individual 
sensors.  I'm sure there are ways to do this easily in HAL with 
a couple AND gates that shuts off steps to the motor that 
reaches home first, then waits until the second motor gets there 
before completing the home sequence.

This gantry scheme is called a "tandem axis".

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] helical code

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm milling a tapered hole using helical interp.
> The program works fine but can't keep up.
> With a HSS ball mill I've been millling at 4 ips.
> With carbide I could raise that to 10 ips.
> 
> At either speed it maintains speed 'til about 1/2 way thru the  
> program then starts to pause and go, pause and go., etc.
> I tried G64 P0.001 and that didn't help.
Hmm, the G64 P0.0005 made a HUGE difference in the performance 
on a flat XY-plane circle specified in tiny G01 moves.  It sped 
up by 15 : 1.  My test machine is kind of torn apart right now, 
but if you'd send me the whole program I could try it here.

Of course, for tapered holes, a tapered end mill is another 
solution.

The slowing down at about halfway through is a real puzzle.
It seems odd that the user-mode half of EMC couldn't keep up 
with the real-time part.  The program is only about 500 blocks 
long?  I'm wondering  So, you start at the top, with a 
larger diameter, and then get smaller as you go down?  I'm 
wondering if the curvature is just on the bitter edge of 
triggering some limit for merging the line segments, and as the 
diameter shrinks, the trajectory planner switches modes from 
smooth merging of the segments to not merging them without 
deceleration.  I'd guess that P0.001 parameter might have an 
effect on this, you might have to make the P larger or make your 
line segments shorter.

Jon

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[Emc-users] galesburg emc fest campsite

2008-05-06 Thread Thomas J Powderly
cheapest digs (with hot shower), are to camp here
about 5 to 10 minutes from the fest
http://maps.yahoo.com/map?q1=%20Galesburg,%20IL%
20us&mag=5&ard=1#mvt=h&lat=40.984505&lon=-90.390022&mag=5&zoom=16&q1=%
20Galesburg%2C%20IL%20us

and the cheap food is at PigglyWiggly
esp breakfast
tomp


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Re: [Emc-users] helical code

2008-05-06 Thread Ray Henry

Hi Dave

I ran that here without any hesitation in the motion.  I did remove the
tool changes and the great long moves to them.  The total time was about
40 seconds.  Final image is at

http://imagebin.ca/view/Tv_FrSVO.html

Sounds to me like you've got some computer or realtime issue.  Perhaps
an upgrade is in order.

Rayh




On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 09:46 -0700, Dave Engvall wrote:
> Duh! edit those rates to ipm.
> 
> Dave
> On May 6, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Dave Engvall wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I'm milling a tapered hole using helical interp.
> > The program works fine but can't keep up.
> > With a HSS ball mill I've been millling at 4 ips.
> > With carbide I could raise that to 10 ips.
> >
> > At either speed it maintains speed 'til about 1/2 way thru the
> > program then starts to pause and go, pause and go., etc.
> > I tried G64 P0.001 and that didn't help.
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > The following is a snip of the code about 1/2 way thru the program.
> >
> > 242X.0306Y-.0468Z-.1181
> > N243X.042Y-.0366Z-.1186
> > N244X.0502Y-.0238Z-.1192
> > N245X.0546Y-.0094Z-.1197
> > N246X.0549Y.0057Z-.1202
> > N247X.0511Y.0203Z-.1207
> > N248X.0436Y.0332Z-.1212
> > N249X.0329Y.0436Z-.1218
> > N250X.0198Y.0507Z-.1223
> > N251X.0053Y.0539Z-.1228
> > N252X-.0094Y.0532Z-.1233
> > N253X-.0233Y.0485Z-.1239
> > N254X-.0354Y.0402Z-.1244
> > N255X-.0448Y.0291Z-.1249
> > N256X-.0508Y.0158Z-.1254
> > N257X-.053Y.0015Z-.1259
> > N258X-.0512Y-.0128Z-.1265
> > N259X-.0457Y-.0261Z-.127
> > N260X-.0368Y-.0373Z-.1275
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] 155 ms real-time delay every 10 minutes?

2008-05-06 Thread Kent A. Reed
Anders:

I hesitate to throw what may be just another red herring into the 
discussion, but there are a number of 600-second defaults floating 
around Linux, and it is possible you're getting tripped up by one of 
them rather than by some clock problem.

For example, by default, the stock Ubuntu 7.10 on my home PC clears the 
ip4 routing table every 600 seconds (defined in  
/proc/sys/net/ip4/secret_interval). I would assume the time it takes to 
do this is dependent on the size of the routing table (this created a 
problem with a Redhat system we built at work to monitor experiments).

I also used to trip over the various ways screen blanking intervals are 
defined in X11, though that seems an unlikely cause of your problem.

It's too bad no one has created a list of all the default times defined 
in Linux distributions (or it they have, it's too bad I'm too stupid to 
be able to find such lists!).

Just my two cents worth. Good hunting!

Kent

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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest

2008-05-06 Thread Filipi Vianna
Sven,

If you asked about FISL+EMC, FISL isn't in Europe. In fact, FISL
happens every year in Brazil, and is the world largest FLOSS 
event.

http://www.fisl.org.br/

Next FISL will be held on June, 2009. We are (I am) planning to make
a CNC Workshop and/or EMC Fest during next FISL.

Regards,
Filipi Vianna

On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 20:24 +0200, Svenne Larsson wrote:
> Maybe I've missed a mail or two lately (not reading that is...), but
> is there any European EMC-event coming up?
> 
> Please give me the dates for all events and I can post them at
> cnczone.
> 
> Regards,
> Sven
> 
> 2008/5/6 Filipi Vianna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Fabio,
> 
> Sorry about the delay.. ;-) (processing queue at work after
> FISL)
> 
> On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 17:08 -0300, Fabio Gilii wrote:
> > Regarding next FISL+EMC Fest, I want to say that is a quite
> big "CNC"
> > community here in Brazil and possibly is very interesting to
> them
> > participate of such meeting...
> That will be great.
> How about a workshop? I am on the FISL program committee, and
> we have
> some workshops managed by each specific community. Talks and
> key
> note speaks must be submitted after the call for papers and
> must
> be approved, but the workshops are "self managed".
> 
> Would be nice if we could bring some one from the linuxcnc.org
> to
> the FISL.
> 
> > I'm owner of a discussion forum focused in building simple
> CNC
> > machines, and some of us are using EMC² in our machines, and
> I think
> > it can be very interesting possibilty to join efforts to
> organize and
> > to participate of such happening!
> I toke a look at your forum. It is really interesting.
> I did find an OpenCAM. I was thinking in show a workshop or
> even submit
> for a talk, on showing the OpenCAM + EMC2 working.
> 
> Next FISL will here at PUCRS, and we have a working EMC2 based
> CNC
> machine. We can do some tests and show the case during the
> FISL.
> 
> > We have made some meeting in the last two or three years,
> and we are
> > planning to do the next soon...
> >
> > Maybe Filipi can participate (feel invited!) in the next!
> Cool. I will try to be there. ;-) Keep in touch.
> 
> Best regards,
> --
> Filipi Vianna
> IDEIA/PUCRS Research and Development Institute
> +55 51 33203525 ext. 7794
> http://www.pucrs.br/ideia
> 
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Ed
Ray Henry wrote:
> Hi Dale
> 
> I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together
> into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab.  
> 
> My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro.
>   Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment.
>   Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces
>   Wednesday  -- Hand coded part programs part 1
>   Thursday   -- Hand coded part programs 2
>   Friday -- Part programming assistants
> 
> Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each
> day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help.  
> 
> I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during
> the week.
> 
> Ray
> 

Looks like a few extra tables will be needed this year!! Last year it 
was a squeese when I setup my little Gecko and servo board.   Ed.

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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest

2008-05-06 Thread Svenne Larsson
Maybe I've missed a mail or two lately (not reading that is...), but is
there any European EMC-event coming up?

Please give me the dates for all events and I can post them at cnczone.

Regards,
Sven

2008/5/6 Filipi Vianna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Fabio,
>
> Sorry about the delay.. ;-) (processing queue at work after FISL)
>
> On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 17:08 -0300, Fabio Gilii wrote:
> > Regarding next FISL+EMC Fest, I want to say that is a quite big "CNC"
> > community here in Brazil and possibly is very interesting to them
> > participate of such meeting...
> That will be great.
> How about a workshop? I am on the FISL program committee, and we have
> some workshops managed by each specific community. Talks and key
> note speaks must be submitted after the call for papers and must
> be approved, but the workshops are "self managed".
>
> Would be nice if we could bring some one from the linuxcnc.org to
> the FISL.
>
> > I'm owner of a discussion forum focused in building simple CNC
> > machines, and some of us are using EMC² in our machines, and I think
> > it can be very interesting possibilty to join efforts to organize and
> > to participate of such happening!
> I toke a look at your forum. It is really interesting.
> I did find an OpenCAM. I was thinking in show a workshop or even submit
> for a talk, on showing the OpenCAM + EMC2 working.
>
> Next FISL will here at PUCRS, and we have a working EMC2 based CNC
> machine. We can do some tests and show the case during the FISL.
>
> > We have made some meeting in the last two or three years, and we are
> > planning to do the next soon...
> >
> > Maybe Filipi can participate (feel invited!) in the next!
> Cool. I will try to be there. ;-) Keep in touch.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Filipi Vianna
> IDEIA/PUCRS Research and Development Institute
> +55 51 33203525 ext. 7794
> http://www.pucrs.br/ideia
>
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Ray Henry

Hi Dale

I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together
into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab.  

My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro.
Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment.
Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces
Wednesday  -- Hand coded part programs part 1
Thursday   -- Hand coded part programs 2
Friday -- Part programming assistants

Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each
day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help.  

I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during
the week.

Ray





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> Hello,
>  
> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>  
> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+)
> full size mill on EMC2. 
>  
> Thank you
> Dale
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Re: [Emc-users] helical code

2008-05-06 Thread Dave Engvall
Duh! edit those rates to ipm.

Dave
On May 6, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Dave Engvall wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm milling a tapered hole using helical interp.
> The program works fine but can't keep up.
> With a HSS ball mill I've been millling at 4 ips.
> With carbide I could raise that to 10 ips.
>
> At either speed it maintains speed 'til about 1/2 way thru the
> program then starts to pause and go, pause and go., etc.
> I tried G64 P0.001 and that didn't help.
> Am I missing something?
>
> The following is a snip of the code about 1/2 way thru the program.
>
> 242X.0306Y-.0468Z-.1181
> N243X.042Y-.0366Z-.1186
> N244X.0502Y-.0238Z-.1192
> N245X.0546Y-.0094Z-.1197
> N246X.0549Y.0057Z-.1202
> N247X.0511Y.0203Z-.1207
> N248X.0436Y.0332Z-.1212
> N249X.0329Y.0436Z-.1218
> N250X.0198Y.0507Z-.1223
> N251X.0053Y.0539Z-.1228
> N252X-.0094Y.0532Z-.1233
> N253X-.0233Y.0485Z-.1239
> N254X-.0354Y.0402Z-.1244
> N255X-.0448Y.0291Z-.1249
> N256X-.0508Y.0158Z-.1254
> N257X-.053Y.0015Z-.1259
> N258X-.0512Y-.0128Z-.1265
> N259X-.0457Y-.0261Z-.127
> N260X-.0368Y-.0373Z-.1275
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] helical code

2008-05-06 Thread Ray Henry

Hi Dave

I'm going to guess that you meant 4ipm.  With that small a helix even
with your Mazak you'd be hard pressed to get 240 ipm.  

I ran your code snippet here and it whizzed through.  But then it isn't
even a complete circle.

Ray   


On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 08:37 -0700, Dave Engvall wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm milling a tapered hole using helical interp.
> The program works fine but can't keep up.
> With a HSS ball mill I've been millling at 4 ips.
> With carbide I could raise that to 10 ips.
> 
> At either speed it maintains speed 'til about 1/2 way thru the  
> program then starts to pause and go, pause and go., etc.
> I tried G64 P0.001 and that didn't help.
> Am I missing something?
> 
> The following is a snip of the code about 1/2 way thru the program.
> 
> 242X.0306Y-.0468Z-.1181
> N243X.042Y-.0366Z-.1186
> N244X.0502Y-.0238Z-.1192
> N245X.0546Y-.0094Z-.1197
> N246X.0549Y.0057Z-.1202
> N247X.0511Y.0203Z-.1207
> N248X.0436Y.0332Z-.1212
> N249X.0329Y.0436Z-.1218
> N250X.0198Y.0507Z-.1223
> N251X.0053Y.0539Z-.1228
> N252X-.0094Y.0532Z-.1233
> N253X-.0233Y.0485Z-.1239
> N254X-.0354Y.0402Z-.1244
> N255X-.0448Y.0291Z-.1249
> N256X-.0508Y.0158Z-.1254
> N257X-.053Y.0015Z-.1259
> N258X-.0512Y-.0128Z-.1265
> N259X-.0457Y-.0261Z-.127
> N260X-.0368Y-.0373Z-.1275
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest

2008-05-06 Thread Filipi Vianna
Hi Fabio,

Sorry about the delay.. ;-) (processing queue at work after FISL)

On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 17:08 -0300, Fabio Gilii wrote:
> Regarding next FISL+EMC Fest, I want to say that is a quite big "CNC"
> community here in Brazil and possibly is very interesting to them
> participate of such meeting...
That will be great.
How about a workshop? I am on the FISL program committee, and we have
some workshops managed by each specific community. Talks and key
note speaks must be submitted after the call for papers and must
be approved, but the workshops are "self managed".

Would be nice if we could bring some one from the linuxcnc.org to
the FISL.

> I'm owner of a discussion forum focused in building simple CNC
> machines, and some of us are using EMC² in our machines, and I think
> it can be very interesting possibilty to join efforts to organize and
> to participate of such happening!
I toke a look at your forum. It is really interesting.
I did find an OpenCAM. I was thinking in show a workshop or even submit
for a talk, on showing the OpenCAM + EMC2 working. 

Next FISL will here at PUCRS, and we have a working EMC2 based CNC
machine. We can do some tests and show the case during the FISL.

> We have made some meeting in the last two or three years, and we are
> planning to do the next soon...
> 
> Maybe Filipi can participate (feel invited!) in the next!
Cool. I will try to be there. ;-) Keep in touch.

Best regards,
-- 
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Dave Engvall
You get to take your chances. Several of the attendees stayed at the  
Econo Inn. I stayed there two years ago.

They had just changed the beds and the new ones were too firm for me.
I will stay at the Holiday Inn Express which is more expensive and  
farther away; but then my wife will be there
also. The Econo Inn is about as close as any motel I'm aware of.  
Price two years ago was $50/nite.

HTH.

Dave
On May 6, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Dale Ertley wrote:


Mr. Stevenson or Mr. Engvall,

Can you suggest a motel near to the action.

Has anyone put together a list of people who might like to room and/ 
or drive  togather and split the cost?


Thank you
Dale



Dave Engvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just hang out in the emc area; there is always something going on. :-)

Dave
On May 6, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:

>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Dale Ertley
>> Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>>
>> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis
>> (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Dale
>
> Dale,
> I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class.
> It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know  
the

> developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere
> with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how  
they
> each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality  
men.
> It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and  
patient.

> I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much
> worth the time, effort and expense.
> thanks
> Stuart
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[Emc-users] Master-Slave stepper set up

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
I've in the process of building a two axis machine - using the X and 
Z axis, and I have a three axis stepper/driver combo already set up 
and basically ready to go.  I was wondering if there is some way to 
configure EMC so that I could slave the Y axis to the X axis. and use 
two steppers, one on each side of the gantry.

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread John Kasunich
Dale Ertley wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>
>   I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full 
> size mill on EMC2. 
>
>   Thank you
>   Dale

Ray Henry is planning classes - I believe he is going to have several 
computers networked together and hooked to a small mill so "students" 
can actually run the machine.  I'll let him fill in the details.

Regards,

John Kasunich

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
>  --
>
>  Message: 7
>  Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:48:18 -0700 (PDT)
>  From: Dale Ertley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
>  To: "Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)"
> 
>  Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>  Mr. Stevenson or Mr. Engvall,
>
>   Can you suggest a motel near to the action.
>
>   Has anyone put together a list of people who might like to room and/or 
> drive  togather and split the cost?
>
>   Thank you
>   Dale
>
>


http://www.cnc-workshop.com/lodging.htm

try this link

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> 
> Dale,
>I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class.
> It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the
> developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere
> with their projects.
No offense to Stuart, but DON'T be afraid that you are 
interrupting something important.  Yes, a lot of great 
interaction happens at the Workshop, but (at least for me) a 
major part of it is to meet with ALL the EMC enthusiasts, not 
just the "hi test" developers.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
Dale Ertley wrote:
> Hello,
>  
> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>  
> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) 
> full size mill on EMC2.
I'm not sure exactly what formal classes there will be.  I hope 
we can have something more organized than last year.  Ray Henry 
will be there, so that is likely to be a guarantee!  But, even 
without formal classes, we will have a true EMC "critical mass" 
there as usual.  Just buttonhole one of the developers and ask a 
question.

I'm planning on doing two classes that are oriented a bit toward 
my products.  But, maybe I need to do a general class as well, 
mostly focusing on the retrofit process and selection of components.

If you don't have EMC running yet, bring your computer and we 
will get it installed and at least partially configured for your 
own setup.

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Dale Ertley
Mr. Stevenson or Mr. Engvall,
   
  Can you suggest a motel near to the action. 
   
  Has anyone put together a list of people who might like to room and/or drive  
togather and split the cost? 
   
  Thank you
  Dale 
   
   
  
Dave Engvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Just hang out in the emc area; there is always something going on. :-)

Dave
On May 6, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:

>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Dale Ertley 
>> Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>>
>> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis 
>> (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Dale
>
> Dale,
> I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class.
> It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the
> developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere
> with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how they
> each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality men.
> It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and patient.
> I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much
> worth the time, effort and expense.
> thanks
> Stuart
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[Emc-users] helical code

2008-05-06 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi,
I'm milling a tapered hole using helical interp.
The program works fine but can't keep up.
With a HSS ball mill I've been millling at 4 ips.
With carbide I could raise that to 10 ips.

At either speed it maintains speed 'til about 1/2 way thru the  
program then starts to pause and go, pause and go., etc.
I tried G64 P0.001 and that didn't help.
Am I missing something?

The following is a snip of the code about 1/2 way thru the program.

242X.0306Y-.0468Z-.1181
N243X.042Y-.0366Z-.1186
N244X.0502Y-.0238Z-.1192
N245X.0546Y-.0094Z-.1197
N246X.0549Y.0057Z-.1202
N247X.0511Y.0203Z-.1207
N248X.0436Y.0332Z-.1212
N249X.0329Y.0436Z-.1218
N250X.0198Y.0507Z-.1223
N251X.0053Y.0539Z-.1228
N252X-.0094Y.0532Z-.1233
N253X-.0233Y.0485Z-.1239
N254X-.0354Y.0402Z-.1244
N255X-.0448Y.0291Z-.1249
N256X-.0508Y.0158Z-.1254
N257X-.053Y.0015Z-.1259
N258X-.0512Y-.0128Z-.1265
N259X-.0457Y-.0261Z-.127
N260X-.0368Y-.0373Z-.1275


Dave


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Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box, Sorted Thanks

2008-05-06 Thread aaron Moore
Alex
All sorted
Thanks
Aaron
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> From: "Alex Joni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:23:53 +0300
> 
> 
> try "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15-magma"
> that should install the linux source, maybe vbox works then.
> If you only need the headers then apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-magma
> (it's most likely the full source is not needed, so I would try this first).
> 
> Regards,
> Alex
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
> 
> 
> > uname -a returns
> > 2.6.15-magma #1 Fri June 9 20:51::19 2006 i 686 GNU/LINUX
> > Thanks
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Alex Joni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
> >> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:53:40 +0300
> >>
> >>
> >> What kind of Ubuntu version?
> >> What does "uname -a" say?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Alex
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "aaron Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "EMC userslist" 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:59 AM
> >> Subject: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi
> >> > I would like to install virtualbox on EMC ubuntu, but it keeps
> >> > telling me that I need a kernel module / header file.
> >> > In /var/log/vbox-install.log it says
> >> > Makefile:127:*** Error: unable to find sources of your current
> >> > linux kernel.  Specify KERN_DIR= and run Make
> >> > again. Stop.
> >> > Thanks again
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Dave Engvall
Just hang out in the emc area; there is always something going on. :-)

Dave
On May 6, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:

>>  Message: 2
>>  Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
>>  From: Dale Ertley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
>>  To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>  Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>  Hello,
>>
>>   Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>>
>>   I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis  
>> (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2.
>>
>>   Thank you
>>   Dale
>
> Dale,
>I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class.
> It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the
> developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere
> with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how they
> each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality men.
> It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and patient.
>I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much
> worth the time, effort and expense.
> thanks
> Stuart
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-05-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
>  Message: 2
>  Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
>  From: Dale Ertley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
>  To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>  Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>  Hello,
>
>   Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008?
>
>   I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full 
> size mill on EMC2.
>
>   Thank you
>   Dale

Dale,
   I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class.
It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the
developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere
with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how they
each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality men.
It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and patient.
   I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much
worth the time, effort and expense.
thanks
Stuart

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Re: [Emc-users] 155 ms real-time delay every 10 minutes?

2008-05-06 Thread Anders Wallin
> Is there any benefit to be found with the real time kernel by disabling apm 
> or other features with the kernel parameters?
> For example acpi=off  apm=off etc?

adding these two to the line that starts with 'kernel ...' in GRUB 
doesn't cure the problem.

I will try a PATA hdd today and maybe then I'll switch to another computer.

AW

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Re: [Emc-users] dxf to gcode

2008-05-06 Thread John Thornton
Hi Aaron,

I just got gcnccam installed myself and have not used it yet so I can't help 
directly. 
You might try and catch someone on the #cam channel on freenode...

John

On 6 May 2008 at 5:51, aaron Moore wrote:

> Hi
> I am having problems  displaying drawing in gcnccam.  I have dxf with
> layers named outline and hole and have set up similar layers in
> gcnccam, but no drawing is dispalyed.  It seems to me that information
> on thickness of material is needed, but I don't see where to input it.
>  Can any one guess what I'm not doing? Aaron > - 

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Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box

2008-05-06 Thread Alex Joni
try "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15-magma"
that should install the linux source, maybe vbox works then.
If you only need the headers then apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-magma 
(it's most likely the full source is not needed, so I would try this first).

Regards,
Alex


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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:12 AM
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> uname -a returns
> 2.6.15-magma #1 Fri June 9 20:51::19 2006 i 686 GNU/LINUX
> Thanks
> Aaron
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Alex Joni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
>> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:53:40 +0300
>>
>>
>> What kind of Ubuntu version?
>> What does "uname -a" say?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "aaron Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "EMC userslist" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:59 AM
>> Subject: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
>>
>>
>> > Hi
>> > I would like to install virtualbox on EMC ubuntu, but it keeps
>> > telling me that I need a kernel module / header file.
>> > In /var/log/vbox-install.log it says
>> > Makefile:127:*** Error: unable to find sources of your current
>> > linux kernel.  Specify KERN_DIR= and run Make
>> > again. Stop.
>> > Thanks again
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Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box

2008-05-06 Thread aaron Moore
uname -a returns
2.6.15-magma #1 Fri June 9 20:51::19 2006 i 686 GNU/LINUX
Thanks
Aaron


> - Original Message -
> From: "Alex Joni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:53:40 +0300
> 
> 
> What kind of Ubuntu version?
> What does "uname -a" say?
> 
> Regards,
> Alex
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "aaron Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "EMC userslist" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:59 AM
> Subject: [Emc-users] Virtual Box
> 
> 
> > Hi
> > I would like to install virtualbox on EMC ubuntu, but it keeps 
> > telling me that I need a kernel module / header file.
> > In /var/log/vbox-install.log it says
> > Makefile:127:*** Error: unable to find sources of your current 
> > linux kernel.  Specify KERN_DIR= and run Make
> > again. Stop.
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