[FairfieldLife] Sh*cks!
Shocks by gazbo (4.00 / 2) #1 Wed May 25, 2005 at 05:47:33 AM EST I get static all the time - must be my shoes. But most seriously, I used to work at a laser toner factory - taking enormous sacks of toner and dispensing it into refill bottles. This stuff got fucking everywhere. One of the machine types involved filling a massive barrel with toner, fitting the huge dispensing nozzle, then pressing a button that made the machine hoist it while inverting it, ready to be locked in position. The genius who was working on one of those machines did all of the above steps, except for putting the dispensing nozzle on. A 100Kg barrel of toner emptied on the floor. That is irrelevant to the story, but funny. Anyway. At the end of each day, all of this toner needed vacuuming up. Imagine the PD you can get by vacuuming up kilos of laser toner - I would get sparks coming off me that were up to 12" long. It was fun to start, but after a while you kinda start to fear it. In fact, to this day, I really hate the anticipation of static shocks. Tip: if you do need to discharge a huge static buildup, get someone to chuck you (literally) a length of metal. Maybe your keys would work, thinking about it. Discharge through the metal and you'll not feel a thing, presumably because the discharge from your hand is no longer concentrated on a single point. When I was a kid (8?) I was changing a lightbulb in an angle-poise lamp. I saw the two contacts, and scientific curiosity got the better of me; I turned it on, and stuck my fingers on the contacts. I remember being thrown backwards, and it feeling like being punched in the arm repeatedly (presumably 50 times per second). Some would claim that explains a lot. I did my best to kill myself and 2 other people when I worked as a cleaner at Sainsbury's. I was using the big single-brush floor scrubber - now these things are kinda cool, because they are uncontrollable monsters to even the biggest men, yet after practice you can exhibit precision control with a thumb and little finger only. This obviously led the way to great show-off skills. One of the games I played was to stand on the machine and turn it on, thus creating an impromptue roundabout. I did this once when the entire floor was drenched in water (when else would you use such a machine?) and the cable got caught underneath and severed. Did I mention this plugged into the 440v outlet? Thank God for fuses - I'd have hated that one to go on my epitath and those of the people in the room with me. I think that's enough. My other electrocution stories aren't as good. --- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Soledad O'Brien in heated interview with McKinney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Go down to "Watch" and click "McKinney grilled about > > confrontation". > > > > > > I think McKinney's in the wrong with regard to > > > the incident, but O'Brien's behavior in this > > > interview was disgraceful. > > > > In what way? I always find it refreshing whenever interviewers cut > > interviewees short when they are not answering the question asked > > them. > > It's unprofessional in the extreme. > > > McKinney clearly had talking points she wanted put out and Soledad > > was having none of it. I thought Soledad was extra polite to her. > > Well, obviously she was aggressively rude to McKinney. > I thought McKinney kept her cool quite well. > McKinney sounded like a cornered rat who knew that she was guilty of the accusations against her and, quite wisely, shut up because her lawyer told her to. She should have politely have told that to Soledad from the get-go instead of trying to score points with her talking points. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
> > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > Would a real Maharishi goes into business? Bhagavad-giitaa, VII 16: catur-vidhaa bhajante maaM janaaH sukRtino 'rjuna aarto jijñaasur **arthaarthii** jñaanii ca bharatarSabha..7.16.. 7.16 O Arjuna, foremost of the Bharata dynasty, four classes of people of virtuous deeds adore Me: the afflicted, the seeker of Knowledge, the seeker of wealth and the man of Knowledge. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/06 11:37 PM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > on 4/5/06 9:09 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> sparaig wrote: > >>> Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. > >> < > >> A Belkin, 2-Port KVM Switch, available at CompUSA. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/o5qyk > > > > I have one called LinXcel. Toggles my monitor and my keyboard. > > And my mouse. In fact, with Mac OSX, the right click button on the > mouse does stuff, as on a PC. The "KVM" in "KVM Switch" stands for keyboard/video/mouse, just for da record. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > > > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for > > operational > > > > > > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen > > donor's > > > names > > > > > > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common > > practice in > > > > > > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > They would go to hell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in > > the > > > puja > > > > > > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to > > bow down > > > > > > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - > > these all > > > > > > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > > > > > > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric > > tradition. > > > > > > It's SOP for devotees. > > > > > > > > > > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it > > says > > > about one who sells > > > > this > > > > > secret knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it says they go to hell. > > > > > > > > > > Just how did this thread go from a remarkably simple and fair > > contract > > > regarding proprietary rights to Hell..? > > > > > > I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for > > > psychological attention. > > > > > > > > > Of course! > > > > And it only took you 93,791 posted messages to figure that out? > > I think I've been around for only maybe half of them. > > But I am still taken aback by the amount of bad will some people on > this list nurture against TM and its founder. > > Entertaining feeling like that (unfounded or otherwise) is not good > for your health. > > Isn't their anything that can be done to make them let go and start > having a life..? > > > > World Peace could have been achieved 3 years ago with all the energy > > that we all waste gossiping on this forum every day... > > > I once heard this theory that one way MMY ensures world peace is by > attract some of the most stressed people on the planet and have them > do silly things in the TMO instead of letting them create havoc > outside the TMO sandbox. > What a peculiar excuse for incompetence! Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
on 4/5/06 11:37 PM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > on 4/5/06 9:09 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> sparaig wrote: >>> Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. >> < >> A Belkin, 2-Port KVM Switch, available at CompUSA. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/o5qyk > > I have one called LinXcel. Toggles my monitor and my keyboard. And my mouse. In fact, with Mac OSX, the right click button on the mouse does stuff, as on a PC. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
on 4/5/06 9:09 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > sparaig wrote: >> Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. > < > A Belkin, 2-Port KVM Switch, available at CompUSA. > > http://tinyurl.com/o5qyk I have one called LinXcel. Toggles my monitor and my keyboard. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 60 shrines demolished in Brahmastan of India near Jabalpur
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Don't know if this is a binding contract or not, but it > > certainly > > > > > implies that one agrees to not teach TM outside the > guidelines > > > set > > > > up > > > > > by the TM organization, incluidng any future requirements of > > > > > recertification, wearing crowns, barking at the moon, etc. > > > > > > > > "...we are satisfied" pretty much amends anything here, I would > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps, but its doubtful that that would stand up in a court > case > > > concerning trademarks. > > > > If MMY is satisfied, why would there *be* a court case? > > > > Because the TMO says there is to be one? Against MMY's wishes? What are you talking about? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Soledad O'Brien in heated interview with McKinney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Go down to "Watch" and click "McKinney grilled about > confrontation". > > > > I think McKinney's in the wrong with regard to > > the incident, but O'Brien's behavior in this > > interview was disgraceful. > > In what way? I always find it refreshing whenever interviewers cut > interviewees short when they are not answering the question asked > them. It's unprofessional in the extreme. > McKinney clearly had talking points she wanted put out and Soledad > was having none of it. I thought Soledad was extra polite to her. Well, obviously she was aggressively rude to McKinney. I thought McKinney kept her cool quite well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Moi, intentionally vague? Shirley, you jest. > > > +++ Shirley is a jester ? Whassamatta, you don't think women have a sensayooma? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
sparaig wrote: > Regardless, my recollection isthat he was originally called > balraj brahmachari. > You are mistaken - he was originally called 'Mahesh', named after the Lord Shiva, his family's personal diety. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > Some of the switches toggle both keyboard and monitor. > > > You are mistaken - only a 'KVM' switch toggles both keyboard, mouse and > monitor. A Belkin, 2-Port KVM Switch, available at CompUSA. > > http://tinyurl.com/o5qyk > Thanks forthe URL. Looks like what I need. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't know if this is a binding contract or not, but it > certainly > > > > implies that one agrees to not teach TM outside the guidelines > > set > > > up > > > > by the TM organization, incluidng any future requirements of > > > > recertification, wearing crowns, barking at the moon, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...we are satisfied" pretty much amends anything here, I would > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps, but its doubtful that that would stand up in a court case > > concerning trademarks. > > > > > I would agree; however, the agreement in question goes way, way > beyond just trademarks. It talks about teaching meditation > techniques very generally. > > I'm thinking here of that fellow in Florida who is teaching TM but > calling it something different. I don't think that case is a > question of trademarks but rather whether he can teach TM. > > I would think that MMY's "we are satisfied" quote would go a long > way towards supporting the teacher's side... > I thought the florida case was about someone who IS calling it "Transcendental Meditation." Forokh Anklesaria changed the name, not the Florida guy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > bob_brigante wrote: > > > Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, > > > or so I understood. > > > > You are mistaken, Bob - according to the Cologne Digital Sanskrit > Lexicon, the Sanskrit term 'bal' is an interjection imitating the > sound of a falling body, as in 'falling at the feet of the master'. > Many Sanskrit terms are derived from common household sounds. For > example, the bija mantra 'phat', heard at every puja, is derived from > the crack-sound made by a two-stroked wheeled vehicle, the motor > rickshaw, found all over downtown Delhi. > Regardless, my recollection isthat he was originally called balraj brahmachari. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
authfriend wrote: > Some of the switches toggle both keyboard and monitor. > You are mistaken - only a 'KVM' switch toggles both keyboard, mouse and monitor. A Belkin, 2-Port KVM Switch, available at CompUSA. http://tinyurl.com/o5qyk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > [...] > > > Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. I'd love to do hardcore gaming > > > and animation production in a dual monitor setup onthe mac but > > > allow somone to use the PC for surfing and wordprocessing. > > > > Video, not keyboard.Sigh... > > Some of the switches toggle both keyboard and monitor. > I checked the URL. At$22 it sounds like something Ineed to get. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't know if this is a binding contract or not, but it > certainly > > > > implies that one agrees to not teach TM outside the guidelines > > set > > > up > > > > by the TM organization, incluidng any future requirements of > > > > recertification, wearing crowns, barking at the moon, etc. > > > > > > "...we are satisfied" pretty much amends anything here, I would > > > say. > > > > > > > Perhaps, but its doubtful that that would stand up in a court case > > concerning trademarks. > > If MMY is satisfied, why would there *be* a court case? > Because the TMO says there is to be one? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
authfriend wrote: > Shirley, you jest. > Very impressive! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just a rumor? Why, our Vaj just told us Maharishi was > > > > > a "leading suspect"! > > > > > > > > Don't kill the messenger! Actually it was Sri Swami Rama, a > > > > student of Guru Dev's, who said it. So take it up with his > > > > ashes! > > > > > > The messenger wrote: > > > > > > "It was actually from a conversation with Sw. Rama that I found > > > out that Mahesh was one of the leading suspects in the murder of > > > Swami Brahmananda." > > > > > > The messenger appears to have chosen some very, shall > > > we say, interesting wording to convey his message. > > > > > > "Found out that..." and "found out that there was a rumor > > > that..." carry very different connotations. > > > > > > As well, "leading suspect" sounds so very much as if, > > > you know, law enforcement was involved, having decided > > > there *had* been a homicide, and having narrowed down > > > the suspects to Maharishi and a few others. > > > > > > I mean, somebody who wasn't aware of the rumor and > > > what its origin was might actually think, from the way > > > the messenger phrased it, that it was established fact > > > that Guru Dev had been murdered and that MMY was an > > > official suspect in the crime. > > > > > > But perhaps that's the way Swami Rama phrased it, and > > > perhaps the messenger was so uninformed that he took > > > it that way, seeing no need to qualify it. > > > > > > Or perhaps not. > > > > You're being rather vague here Judy. Was this intentional...? > > Moi, intentionally vague? Shirley, you jest. > ...and don't call me Shirley... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > Don't know if this is a binding contract or not, but it certainly > > > implies that one agrees to not teach TM outside the guidelines > set > > up > > > by the TM organization, incluidng any future requirements of > > > recertification, wearing crowns, barking at the moon, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > "...we are satisfied" pretty much amends anything here, I would say. > > > > > > > > Perhaps, but its doubtful that that would stand up in a court case > concerning trademarks. > I would agree; however, the agreement in question goes way, way beyond just trademarks. It talks about teaching meditation techniques very generally. I'm thinking here of that fellow in Florida who is teaching TM but calling it something different. I don't think that case is a question of trademarks but rather whether he can teach TM. I would think that MMY's "we are satisfied" quote would go a long way towards supporting the teacher's side... > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
brahmachari108 wrote: > Yes, it says they go to hell. > Except there is no such thing as the 'Bhagavata' - you probably meant the Srimad Bhagwatam or the Bhagavad Gita. Some pundits you two turned out to be! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> wrote:
> >
> > on 4/5/06 12:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at willytex@ wrote:
> >
> > > anon_astute_ff wrote:
> > >> If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh
> > >> know this information?
> > >>
> > > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then
> > > studying with his master for thirteen years?
> > >
> > >> Does his name contain Saraswati?
> > >>
> > > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by
> Guru
> > > Dev.
> >
> > Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, or
> so I
> > understood.
> >
>
> I think it depends on whether that's "Hindi truncation" for
> Sanskrit "bala" or "baala" ( = bAla). Below are all the meanings in
> Cologne Digital for both of those words. I've forgot which
> one is correct in that case:
>
> 1 bala n. (or m. g. %{ardharcA7di}) power , strength , might ,
> vigour , force , validity RV. &c. &c. (%{balAt} , `" forcibly ,
> against one's will , without being able to help it "' ; also = %
> {bala} ibc. , or %{balena} , %{bala-tas} , with gen. or ifc. , `" by
> force , by the power or on the strength or in virtue or by means of ,
> by "') ; force or power of articulation , TUP. ; force considered as
> a sixth organ of action (cf. %{karme7ndriya}) MBh. ; (the Buddhists
> reckon 10 forces , the ascetic S3aivas four , which according to Sch.
> on R. [B.] are %{sAman} , %{dAna} , %{bheda} , and %{nigraha}) ;
> Force personified as one of the Visve Deva1h2 MBh. ; power of ,
> expertness in (loc.) Nal. ; stoutness , bulkiness L. ; (also pl. ;
> ifc. f. %{A}) military force , troops , an army Mn. MBh. &c. ; (L.
> also shape ; body ; semen virile ; gum ; blood ; a young shoot ;
> bone) ; m. a crow MBh. ; Crataeva Roxburghii L. ; half-ripe barley
> L. ; N. of a demon conquered by Indra (the brother of Vr2itra , in
> older texts %{vala}) RV. &c. &c. ; of an elder brother of Kr2ishn2a
> (also called Bala-deva , Balabhadra , Bala-ra1ma &c.) MBh. Pur. ; cf.
> IW. 332 &c. ; (with Jainas) a white Bala or elder brother of
> Va1sudeva (9 in number , viz. Acala , Vijaya , Bhadra , Su-prabha ,
> Su-daris3ana , A1nanda , Nandana , Padma , and Ra1ma) ; N. of a son
> of Varun2a and brother of Sura1 MBh. ; of an attendant on Skanda
> ib. ; of a son of An3giras ib. ; of a son of Parikshit ib. ; of a son
> of Parija1tra BhP. ; of a son of Kr2ishn2a ib. ; of a lexicographer
> (also written %{vala}) Naish. Sch. ; of a horse of the Moon VP. ; (%
> {A}) f. Sida Cordifolia Sus3r. (du. the plants Bala1 and Ati-bala1
> ib.) ; N. of a partic. charm R. Ragh. (cf. %{ati-b-}) ; the youngest
> sister in a drama L. ; N. of a daughter of Daksha R. ; of a daughter
> of Raudra1s3va Hariv. ; of a female divinity who executes the orders
> of the 17th Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1 L. ; of a peasant girl
> Lalit. ; (%{bala4}) n. = %{vala4} , a cavern AV. ; mfn. strong ,
> robust L. ; sick (= %{amin}) L. [Cf. Lat. {valere} , {valor} &c.]
>
> 2 bAla mf(%{A})n. (cf. %{vAla}) young , childish , infantine , not
> full-grown or developed (of per. sons and things) Gr2S. Up. Mn. MBh.
> &c. ; newly risen , early (as the sun or its rays) Ragh. ; new or
> waxing (as the moon) ib. Kum. ; puerile , ignorant , simple , foolish
> Mn. Hariv. Ka1v. ; pure (as an animal fit for sacrifice) L. ; m.a
> child , boy (esp. one under 5 years) Mn. MBh. &c. ; (in law) a minor
> (minors are classified as %{kunAra} , or boys under 5 years of age , %
> {zizu} under 8 , %{pogaNDa} from the 5th to the end of the 9th or
> till the 16th year , and %{kizora} from the 10th to the 16th year) ;
> a fool , simpleton Mn. Pan5cat. ; any young animal L. ; a colt , foal
> L. ; a five years old elephant L. ; Cypriuus Denticulatus or Rohita
> L. ; N. of a Rakshas VP. ; of a prince Ra1jat. ; (%{A}) f. a female
> child , girl , young woman (esp. one under 16 years) Mn. MBh. &c. ; a
> one year old cow L. ; small cardamoms L. ; Aloe Indica L. ; a kind of
> metre L. ; a partic. mystical prayer Cat. ; N. of the mother of
> Va1lin and Su-griva (said to have been formed by Praja1-pati out of
> some dust which had fallen into his eyes) R. ; n. Andropogon
> Muricatus L. ; heat L.
>
A pun perhaps, or multiple levels of meaning in his name then?
JohnY
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Soledad O'Brien in heated interview with McKinney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Go down to "Watch" and click "McKinney grilled about confrontation". > > I think McKinney's in the wrong with regard to > the incident, but O'Brien's behavior in this > interview was disgraceful. In what way? I always find it refreshing whenever interviewers cut interviewees short when they are not answering the question asked them. McKinney clearly had talking points she wanted put out and Soledad was having none of it. I thought Soledad was extra polite to her. > If I were McKinney, > I'd have walked out. > > There are ways of dealing with guests who aren't > responding the way the interviewer wants. This > was not one of them. > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/05/mckinney.scuffle/index.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
sparaig wrote: > You're being rather vague here Judy. > Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess. > Was this intentional...? > Well, I think it was her intention to try and hijack the thread - just another excuse to open her big pie hole and spout off like a know-it-all. Anybody can see that Judy hasn't added one thing to the current thread. Obviously Judy's not an insider with any new information. Go figure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > snip > > > > You're being rather vague here Judy. Was this intentional...? > > Moi, intentionally vague? Shirley, you jest. > +++ Shirley is a jester ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
bob_brigante wrote: > > Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, > > or so I understood. > > You are mistaken, Bob - according to the Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon, the Sanskrit term 'bal' is an interjection imitating the sound of a falling body, as in 'falling at the feet of the master'. Many Sanskrit terms are derived from common household sounds. For example, the bija mantra 'phat', heard at every puja, is derived from the crack-sound made by a two-stroked wheeled vehicle, the motor rickshaw, found all over downtown Delhi. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
anon_astute_ff wrote: > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what > it says about one who sells this secret knowledge. > If it's secret - how did you find out about it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
anon_astute_ff wrote: > Would a real Maharishi goes into business? > All the rishis bought and sold cattle - haven't you read the Vedas? > Would one say give me a million to sit in another room and > watch me on TV? > In India millions of people watch Maharishi on TV - not sure if they watch from another room or not though. > There is no Maharishi in TMO. > There's no such thing as the TMO - you made that up. From what I've read here, you haven't been within a thousand miles of a Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge. What's up with that? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > [...] > > Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. I'd love to do hardcore gaming > > and animation production in a dual monitor setup onthe mac but > > allow somone to use the PC for surfing and wordprocessing. > > Video, not keyboard.Sigh... Some of the switches toggle both keyboard and monitor. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
authfriend wrote: > This guy is the resident troll over on alt.m.t. > Would you get a load of this little lady - she thinks she owns the Internet! Usenet is unmoderated; anyone can post anything they want to. Resident troll - that's a good one, Judy! Thanks for the compliment - I was wondering when you'd get around to responding - it's been over 24 hours. ROTFLMAO! > Don't expect anything even remotely resembling > a rational discussion with him. > Maybe you're the troll who stalked Vaj, Barry, Lawson, and Shemp over here from Usenet. They waxed you real good over there, as the record shows. Go figure. > If you engage him to his satisfaction, he'll end up being > the resident troll over here too. > Are you attempting to engage? I already asked you not to feed it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Just a rumor? Why, our Vaj just told us Maharishi was > > > > a "leading suspect"! > > > > > > Don't kill the messenger! Actually it was Sri Swami Rama, a > > > student of Guru Dev's, who said it. So take it up with his > > > ashes! > > > > The messenger wrote: > > > > "It was actually from a conversation with Sw. Rama that I found > > out that Mahesh was one of the leading suspects in the murder of > > Swami Brahmananda." > > > > The messenger appears to have chosen some very, shall > > we say, interesting wording to convey his message. > > > > "Found out that..." and "found out that there was a rumor > > that..." carry very different connotations. > > > > As well, "leading suspect" sounds so very much as if, > > you know, law enforcement was involved, having decided > > there *had* been a homicide, and having narrowed down > > the suspects to Maharishi and a few others. > > > > I mean, somebody who wasn't aware of the rumor and > > what its origin was might actually think, from the way > > the messenger phrased it, that it was established fact > > that Guru Dev had been murdered and that MMY was an > > official suspect in the crime. > > > > But perhaps that's the way Swami Rama phrased it, and > > perhaps the messenger was so uninformed that he took > > it that way, seeing no need to qualify it. > > > > Or perhaps not. > > You're being rather vague here Judy. Was this intentional...? Moi, intentionally vague? Shirley, you jest. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. I'd love to do hardcore gaming and > animation production in a dual monitor setup onthe mac but allow somone > to use the PC for surfing and wordprocessing. > Video, not keyboard.Sigh... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > Don't know if this is a binding contract or not, but it certainly > > > implies that one agrees to not teach TM outside the guidelines > set > > up > > > by the TM organization, incluidng any future requirements of > > > recertification, wearing crowns, barking at the moon, etc. > > > > "...we are satisfied" pretty much amends anything here, I would > > say. > > > > Perhaps, but its doubtful that that would stand up in a court case > concerning trademarks. If MMY is satisfied, why would there *be* a court case? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
sparaig wrote: > Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. < A Belkin, 2-Port KVM Switch, available at CompUSA. http://tinyurl.com/o5qyk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/06 3:15 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.html > > I would find it useful if you could toggle back and forth between OSX and > Windows, but it sounds like you have to reboot. I have a Mac and a PC which > share a monitor and keyboard. I toggle back and forth all day long with an > A/B switch. > Which A/B switches toggle keyboards. I'd love to do hardcore gaming and animation production in a dual monitor setup onthe mac but allow somone to use the PC for surfing and wordprocessing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Intel processors are really new on the Mac, so this much development > so early is a good sign. I suspect we'll see a single boot, dual > access system within a year. > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > on 4/5/06 3:15 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.html > > > > I would find it useful if you could toggle back and forth between > > OSX and > > Windows, but it sounds like you have to reboot. I have a Mac and a > > PC which > > share a monitor and keyboard. I toggle back and forth all day long > > with an > > A/B switch. > WINE is probably coming to MacOS X intel. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM summer of world peace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > wrote: > > > > http://mum.edu/TheReview > > > > 3. Lynch Weekend a Great Success, Summer Peace Course Announced > > > > Over 1,000 people attended the recent weekend hosted by filmmaker > > David > > Lynch, physicist John Hagelin, and singer Donovan. > > > > Many of those attending said it was a transforming experience. And > > immediately following the weekend the number of inquiries to > > Admissions > > doubled. > > > > Based on this success, a new course was announced -- A Summer of > > World > > Peace > > -- that will begin in May just as most colleges are finishing > their > > semester > > and will give students the opportunity to come to the University, > > learn > > the > > Transcendental Meditation® technique, and earn academic credit > that > > they can > > transfer to their home institution. > > > > The course will begin in mid-May and have a two-week option in > which > > students will learn the Transcendental Meditation technique and a > > four-week > > option for those who'd like to not only learn the technique but > stay > > longer > > and gain more knowledge. > > > > > The next time there's a large gathering of non-meditators in > Fairfield interested in starting TM, an enterprising independent TM > teacher should set up shop in Fairfield and rake it in with > initiations... > Since a lot of those students are interested in MUM, they'd be very disappointed if they went that route. Not to mention that David Lynch probably won't foot the bill. > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] One giant step backwards for mankind. (Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:29 PM, uns_tressor wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.html > > > > You call this progress? A bit like converting a Harley > > into a cement mixer. > > > > Not really since it will run at native speeds. This means unless you > have real recent high-end PeeCee, it's going to run faster than most > of the PeeCees out there in Windoze world. Good for when you need to > run the occasional Windoze app. Good for people who like computer > games, etc. ... > > > > System X is unix, for God's sake. Not the best variant, > > possibly, but going in the right direction. > > Uns. > The downside is that it may discourage developersfrom coming out with a MacOS X version (I have a G5 so this is an issue for me). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] One giant step backwards for mankind. (Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:29 PM, uns_tressor wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.html > > > > You call this progress? A bit like converting a Harley > > into a cement mixer. > > > > Not really since it will run at native speeds. This means unless you > have real recent high-end PeeCee, it's going to run faster than most > of the PeeCees out there in Windoze world. Good for when you need to > run the occasional Windoze app. Good for people who like computer > games, etc. ... >+++ Would the Dell xp-400 and 200 be in that category? N. > > > System X is unix, for God's sake. Not the best variant, > > possibly, but going in the right direction. > > Uns. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [...] > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says > about one who sells this > > secret knowledge. > > > > > Yeah, and the Holy Bible says that if my neighbour works on the > Sabbath that he should be put to death. > > So what's your point? > Well, there you go. Working sundown Friday to sundown Saturday is now out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/06 11:56 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> I don't know for sure what happened, but it could have been part > > of the > >> power struggle, that slowly pushed everyone out, who wasn't > > aligned > >> with the new administration, Bevan, and people who had come from > >> Europe, to take over the administration. The 'old timers' on the > > board > >> of directors were also pushed out, several years before then.. > > > > As a ship sinks, I wonder if those who are told to leave are happy > > or unhappy about it... > > Probably different people react differently. I think some are unhappy at > first but increasingly happy as the get more and more distance from it. > Who got "pushed" out? Who replaced them? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > Just a rumor? Why, our Vaj just told us Maharishi was > > > a "leading suspect"! > > > > Don't kill the messenger! Actually it was Sri Swami Rama, a > > student of Guru Dev's, who said it. So take it up with his ashes! > > The messenger wrote: > > "It was actually from a conversation with Sw. Rama that I found out > that Mahesh was one of the leading suspects in the murder of Swami > Brahmananda." > > The messenger appears to have chosen some very, shall > we say, interesting wording to convey his message. > > "Found out that..." and "found out that there was a rumor > that..." carry very different connotations. > > As well, "leading suspect" sounds so very much as if, > you know, law enforcement was involved, having decided > there *had* been a homicide, and having narrowed down > the suspects to Maharishi and a few others. > > I mean, somebody who wasn't aware of the rumor and > what its origin was might actually think, from the way > the messenger phrased it, that it was established fact > that Guru Dev had been murdered and that MMY was an > official suspect in the crime. > > But perhaps that's the way Swami Rama phrased it, and > perhaps the messenger was so uninformed that he took > it that way, seeing no need to qualify it. > > Or perhaps not. > You're being rather vague here Judy. Was this intentional...? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > Don't know if this is a binding contract or not, but it certainly > > implies that one agrees to not teach TM outside the guidelines set > up > > by the TM organization, incluidng any future requirements of > > recertification, wearing crowns, barking at the moon, etc. > > > > > > "...we are satisfied" pretty much amends anything here, I would say. > > > Perhaps, but its doubtful that that would stand up in a court case concerning trademarks. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 11:29 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > It was a shock at the time. > > > > > > > You're easily shocked since succession issues have been all the rage > > in religious and spiritual traditions since the dawn of history. > > It was the first time I had heard of a Shankaracharya student > poisoning his teacher. You also need to understand that no one I had > spoken to had heard of this poisoning scenario at the time--this was > c. 1980. > Since the issue never came to trial, obviously the evidence was rather weak. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Soledad O'Brien in heated interview with McKinney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Go down to "Watch" and click "McKinney grilled about confrontation". I think McKinney's in the wrong with regard to the incident, but O'Brien's behavior in this interview was disgraceful. If I were McKinney, I'd have walked out. There are ways of dealing with guests who aren't responding the way the interviewer wants. This was not one of them. > http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/05/mckinney.scuffle/index.html > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Are you a racialist?
Ali G. interviews Andy Rooney and John Gray: http://tinyurl.com/m3u7e To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Soledad O'Brien in heated interview with McKinney
Go down to "Watch" and click "McKinney grilled about confrontation". http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/05/mckinney.scuffle/index.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chlorophyll, Lymph and Milk
Glad you understand better now, Jim. Jnani, unless I misspelled it, identifies an intellectual, and said with the "j" sound, sounds like "johnny" somewhat, as in "Johnny on the spot". At the top I ask about people's familiarity with what part of a woman's development is chlorophyll most conducive to milk production, and whether this relationship is addressed in underdeveloped countries. Awe, come one, pull out your nurturing side and join the brigade for equal rights with women. We won't have equality till they give up what they have so we can have it for generations to come! (reverse pseudo-liberation, parasitics passing as equal rights) On 4/5/06, jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Dharma Mitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> And you're a wetnurse too, oh jnani on the spot, Flanegin?>> Do share, please.>Ha Ha- no wish to suckle you, or anyone else!It seemed to me that your posting was making an implicit connection between a spiritual life and eating vegetables, or conversely, noteating meat. I was commenting that there is no such connection thatI can see, and if there is, it is a superficial one.What is a jnani on the spot? >> On 4/5/06, jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > Personally I am a omnivore, and no intellectual. On the otherhand,> > my mind is clear and sharp, and I eat fresh food as often as > > possible. It seems that intent has more to do with our successand> > committment to spiritual practices than diet does. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Win XP now runs on Mac natively
Intel processors are really new on the Mac, so this much development so early is a good sign. I suspect we'll see a single boot, dual access system within a year.On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 4/5/06 3:15 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.htmlI would find it useful if you could toggle back and forth between OSX andWindows, but it sounds like you have to reboot. I have a Mac and a PC whichshare a monitor and keyboard. I toggle back and forth all day long with anA/B switch. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM summer of world peace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://mum.edu/TheReview > > 3. Lynch Weekend a Great Success, Summer Peace Course Announced > > Over 1,000 people attended the recent weekend hosted by filmmaker > David > Lynch, physicist John Hagelin, and singer Donovan. > > Many of those attending said it was a transforming experience. And > immediately following the weekend the number of inquiries to > Admissions > doubled. > > Based on this success, a new course was announced -- A Summer of > World > Peace > -- that will begin in May just as most colleges are finishing their > semester > and will give students the opportunity to come to the University, > learn > the > Transcendental Meditation® technique, and earn academic credit that > they can > transfer to their home institution. > > The course will begin in mid-May and have a two-week option in which > students will learn the Transcendental Meditation technique and a > four-week > option for those who'd like to not only learn the technique but stay > longer > and gain more knowledge. The next time there's a large gathering of non-meditators in Fairfield interested in starting TM, an enterprising independent TM teacher should set up shop in Fairfield and rake it in with initiations... > > Look for more details in the next issue of The Review. > > Over half of those attending the Lynch Weekend were students, and > also > a > large number were educators. Attendees came from around the U.S. and > a > number of foreign countries. > > Also on hand were film crews from Germany, Brazil, and France, and a > number > of reporters and film critics. The weekend was webcast, and a large > audience > also watched online. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/06 12:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > >> If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh > >> know this information? > >> > > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then > > studying with his master for thirteen years? > > > >> Does his name contain Saraswati? > >> > > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru > > Dev. > > Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, or so I > understood. > ** Bala means strength, so a bal brahmachari is a strong celibate, a celibate all his life. In Jyotish, shadbala means "six strengths" of grahas/planets: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004_07_30_varahamihira_archive.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Win XP now runs on Mac natively
on 4/5/06 3:15 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.html I would find it useful if you could toggle back and forth between OSX and Windows, but it sounds like you have to reboot. I have a Mac and a PC which share a monitor and keyboard. I toggle back and forth all day long with an A/B switch. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vaj wrote: > > Not I'm not saying that, but thanks for reminding me. > > > Trancenet is no longer available on the Internet. > * Trancenet is no longer being updated, but all the old site is available through the wayback machine, just enter whatever trancnet URL you want to: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] MUM summer of world peace
http://mum.edu/TheReview 3. Lynch Weekend a Great Success, Summer Peace Course Announced Over 1,000 people attended the recent weekend hosted by filmmaker David Lynch, physicist John Hagelin, and singer Donovan. Many of those attending said it was a transforming experience. And immediately following the weekend the number of inquiries to Admissions doubled. Based on this success, a new course was announced -- A Summer of World Peace -- that will begin in May just as most colleges are finishing their semester and will give students the opportunity to come to the University, learn the Transcendental Meditation® technique, and earn academic credit that they can transfer to their home institution. The course will begin in mid-May and have a two-week option in which students will learn the Transcendental Meditation technique and a four-week option for those who'd like to not only learn the technique but stay longer and gain more knowledge. Look for more details in the next issue of The Review. Over half of those attending the Lynch Weekend were students, and also a large number were educators. Attendees came from around the U.S. and a number of foreign countries. Also on hand were film crews from Germany, Brazil, and France, and a number of reporters and film critics. The weekend was webcast, and a large audience also watched online. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The four classes
the four classes economy talk, 21.3.06 MAHARISHI: ...Jyotish is the field of determining who will do what. And today this slogan `all men are equal` - all are equal because everyone is cosmic. But in that sense the society is not structured. Society is structured in `same education to all`. Vedic structure, the constitution of the universe, right in the beginning the first syllable of the constitution it says, four classes I am submitting, creating - four classes. Four classes well defined: Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudras. Wherever a man is the birthchart, Jyotish, will determine whether he belongs to number one, number two, number three, number four. It is the same thing determining what is the seed, whether it is a mango seed or guava seed or orange seed. What seed is it, that is the seed, put it to that soil and it will grow. So education should be on broad terms. Four kinds of education in every country. It is for the government to see that those custodians of pure knowledge (Brahmin), those who are born that way, they are educated that way. The others take recourse to knowledge and action, both together being in the junction point, like the Kshatriyas. Pure knowledge one side and knowledge mixed with action the other side, Kshatriyas. And action and action and action - Vaishyas, trades people, do the trade, fill the wealth in the society. And the others, creative people. Create, create the whole engineering. The whole field of construction on the gross level, the Shudras. So Brahmin, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Shudras these are the four big broad classification of profession. And that is on the basis of who is born for what. The birthpoint is the soul point of determining. A child is born to do what - whether he is born to be an administrator, born to be an engineer, born to be the custodian of the constitution of the universe. That means born to be the custodian of pure knowledge or born to be knowledge and action together or born to be action or born to be a engineer. Engineer creates. There is nothing and now he creates a mile of road in the sky - this is engineering. Where is the knowledge - the knowledge is the same where one section of society has a complete knowledge, generation after generation - a specialist in that economy: do everything without doing anything. The other one takes subrecourse to action, the other plunges into action, the other creates everything out of nothing - Shudras. This is insight into the field of economy from the level of responsibility of a government and on the level of education.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > > wrote: > > > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says > > > about one who sells this secret knowledge. > > > > Yeah, and the Holy Bible says that if my neighbour works on the > > Sabbath that he should be put to death. > > > > So what's your point? > > Sounds to me like what Barry would call "elitism." > If you *sell* this "secret" knowledge, then any old > jerk who has the money can obtain it. > > If you're giving it away, however, you get to decide > who's pure and worthy enough to have it. > ..or you give it to those you believe have a serious interest in return for a donation to cover operational costs - which takes us full circle in this thread. The hard fact of the matter is that the TMO is recognized as non-profit. So, suck it up all ye nay-sayers out there.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > > > > > > > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for > operational > > > > > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen > donor's > > names > > > > > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common > practice in > > > > > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > > > > > > > > > They would go to hell. > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > > > > > > > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in > the > > puja > > > > > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to > bow down > > > > > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - > these all > > > > > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > > > > > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric > tradition. > > > > > It's SOP for devotees. > > > > > > > > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it > says > > about one who sells > > > this > > > > secret knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it says they go to hell. > > > > > > > Just how did this thread go from a remarkably simple and fair > contract > > regarding proprietary rights to Hell..? > > > > I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for > > psychological attention. > > > > > Of course! > > And it only took you 93,791 posted messages to figure that out? I think I've been around for only maybe half of them. But I am still taken aback by the amount of bad will some people on this list nurture against TM and its founder. Entertaining feeling like that (unfounded or otherwise) is not good for your health. Isn't their anything that can be done to make them let go and start having a life..? > World Peace could have been achieved 3 years ago with all the energy > that we all waste gossiping on this forum every day... I once heard this theory that one way MMY ensures world peace is by attract some of the most stressed people on the planet and have them do silly things in the TMO instead of letting them create havoc outside the TMO sandbox. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] One giant step backwards for mankind. (Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively)
On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:29 PM, uns_tressor wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.htmlYou call this progress? A bit like converting a Harleyinto a cement mixer.Not really since it will run at native speeds. This means unless you have real recent high-end PeeCee, it's going to run faster than most of the PeeCees out there in Windoze world. Good for when you need to run the occasional Windoze app. Good for people who like computer games, etc. ...System X is unix, for God's sake. Not the best variant, possibly, but going in the right direction.Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] One giant step backwards for mankind. (Re: Win XP now runs on Mac natively)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/apr/05bootcamp.html You call this progress? A bit like converting a Harley into a cement mixer. System X is unix, for God's sake. Not the best variant, possibly, but going in the right direction. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff > wrote: > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says > > about one who sells this secret knowledge. > > Yeah, and the Holy Bible says that if my neighbour works on the > Sabbath that he should be put to death. > > So what's your point? Sounds to me like what Barry would call "elitism." If you *sell* this "secret" knowledge, then any old jerk who has the money can obtain it. If you're giving it away, however, you get to decide who's pure and worthy enough to have it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Win XP now runs on Mac natively
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[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > wrote: > > > > sparaig wrote: > > > And what have they been? > > > > > The only specific reference to the Marshy, low-down or otherwise, or > > to TM research by Ken Wilber that I can find in any of Wilber's books > > or tapes is contained in his introduction to 'Spiritual Choices' - > > it's in most public libraries. However, I would have expected a lot > > more discussion by Wilber concerning the research on TM and the > > mechanics of conciousness. Maybe he just doesn't have the expertise to > > make any comments on it. > > > Earlier this am you're promoting Wilber as the expert on TM lowdown > and wanting to wager me about it, now you're saying the exact > opposite. You say this am I'm untrustworthy because yrs ago I > worked in the mov't, then you brag about being an insider. You say > you're an TM insider but think the job of personal secretaries to > MMY was just to carry his skin (because of the term "skin boy", I > guess). You talk like an expert on Wilber but wonder if he has the > expertise to comment on the mechanics of consciousness ... I'll > leave it to Judy to come up with the rest of the internal conflicts > in your postings, though since you're an enemy of her enemy, she > probably won't bother. This guy is the resident troll over on alt.m.t. Don't expect anything even remotely resembling a rational discussion with him. If you engage him to his satisfaction, he'll end up being the resident troll over here too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chlorophyll, Lymph and Milk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Dharma Mitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And you're a wetnurse too, oh jnani on the spot, Flanegin? > > Do share, please. > Ha Ha- no wish to suckle you, or anyone else! It seemed to me that your posting was making an implicit connection between a spiritual life and eating vegetables, or conversely, not eating meat. I was commenting that there is no such connection that I can see, and if there is, it is a superficial one. What is a jnani on the spot? > > On 4/5/06, jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Personally I am a omnivore, and no intellectual. On the other hand, > > my mind is clear and sharp, and I eat fresh food as often as > > possible. It seems that intent has more to do with our success and > > committment to spiritual practices than diet does. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 4/5/06 12:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > anon_astute_ff wrote:
> >> If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh
> >> know this information?
> >>
> > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then
> > studying with his master for thirteen years?
> >
> >> Does his name contain Saraswati?
> >>
> > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by
Guru
> > Dev.
>
> Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, or
so I
> understood.
>
I think it depends on whether that's "Hindi truncation" for
Sanskrit "bala" or "baala" ( = bAla). Below are all the meanings in
Cologne Digital for both of those words. I've forgot which
one is correct in that case:
1 bala n. (or m. g. %{ardharcA7di}) power , strength , might ,
vigour , force , validity RV. &c. &c. (%{balAt} , `" forcibly ,
against one's will , without being able to help it "' ; also = %
{bala} ibc. , or %{balena} , %{bala-tas} , with gen. or ifc. , `" by
force , by the power or on the strength or in virtue or by means of ,
by "') ; force or power of articulation , TUP. ; force considered as
a sixth organ of action (cf. %{karme7ndriya}) MBh. ; (the Buddhists
reckon 10 forces , the ascetic S3aivas four , which according to Sch.
on R. [B.] are %{sAman} , %{dAna} , %{bheda} , and %{nigraha}) ;
Force personified as one of the Visve Deva1h2 MBh. ; power of ,
expertness in (loc.) Nal. ; stoutness , bulkiness L. ; (also pl. ;
ifc. f. %{A}) military force , troops , an army Mn. MBh. &c. ; (L.
also shape ; body ; semen virile ; gum ; blood ; a young shoot ;
bone) ; m. a crow MBh. ; Crataeva Roxburghii L. ; half-ripe barley
L. ; N. of a demon conquered by Indra (the brother of Vr2itra , in
older texts %{vala}) RV. &c. &c. ; of an elder brother of Kr2ishn2a
(also called Bala-deva , Balabhadra , Bala-ra1ma &c.) MBh. Pur. ; cf.
IW. 332 &c. ; (with Jainas) a white Bala or elder brother of
Va1sudeva (9 in number , viz. Acala , Vijaya , Bhadra , Su-prabha ,
Su-daris3ana , A1nanda , Nandana , Padma , and Ra1ma) ; N. of a son
of Varun2a and brother of Sura1 MBh. ; of an attendant on Skanda
ib. ; of a son of An3giras ib. ; of a son of Parikshit ib. ; of a son
of Parija1tra BhP. ; of a son of Kr2ishn2a ib. ; of a lexicographer
(also written %{vala}) Naish. Sch. ; of a horse of the Moon VP. ; (%
{A}) f. Sida Cordifolia Sus3r. (du. the plants Bala1 and Ati-bala1
ib.) ; N. of a partic. charm R. Ragh. (cf. %{ati-b-}) ; the youngest
sister in a drama L. ; N. of a daughter of Daksha R. ; of a daughter
of Raudra1s3va Hariv. ; of a female divinity who executes the orders
of the 17th Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1 L. ; of a peasant girl
Lalit. ; (%{bala4}) n. = %{vala4} , a cavern AV. ; mfn. strong ,
robust L. ; sick (= %{amin}) L. [Cf. Lat. {valere} , {valor} &c.]
2 bAla mf(%{A})n. (cf. %{vAla}) young , childish , infantine , not
full-grown or developed (of per. sons and things) Gr2S. Up. Mn. MBh.
&c. ; newly risen , early (as the sun or its rays) Ragh. ; new or
waxing (as the moon) ib. Kum. ; puerile , ignorant , simple , foolish
Mn. Hariv. Ka1v. ; pure (as an animal fit for sacrifice) L. ; m.a
child , boy (esp. one under 5 years) Mn. MBh. &c. ; (in law) a minor
(minors are classified as %{kunAra} , or boys under 5 years of age , %
{zizu} under 8 , %{pogaNDa} from the 5th to the end of the 9th or
till the 16th year , and %{kizora} from the 10th to the 16th year) ;
a fool , simpleton Mn. Pan5cat. ; any young animal L. ; a colt , foal
L. ; a five years old elephant L. ; Cypriuus Denticulatus or Rohita
L. ; N. of a Rakshas VP. ; of a prince Ra1jat. ; (%{A}) f. a female
child , girl , young woman (esp. one under 16 years) Mn. MBh. &c. ; a
one year old cow L. ; small cardamoms L. ; Aloe Indica L. ; a kind of
metre L. ; a partic. mystical prayer Cat. ; N. of the mother of
Va1lin and Su-griva (said to have been formed by Praja1-pati out of
some dust which had fallen into his eyes) R. ; n. Andropogon
Muricatus L. ; heat L.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think some of the people on this list is in serious need for > first-grade grammar. Sal, you is so right! > > Sal > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:53 PM, peterklutz wrote: > > > I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for > > psychological attention. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
on 4/5/06 2:32 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > But Maharishi doesn't have a Jackie in his life. He had many "Jackies," as did JFK. And one of them claims to have written a book which she'll publish after he dies. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > wrote: > > > > > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > > > > > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational > > > > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's > names > > > > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in > > > > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > > > > > > > They would go to hell. > > > > > > > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > > > > > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > > > > > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the > puja > > > > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down > > > > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all > > > > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > > > > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition. > > > > It's SOP for devotees. > > > > > > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says > about one who sells > > this > > > secret knowledge. > > > > > > > Yes, it says they go to hell. > > > > Just how did this thread go from a remarkably simple and fair contract > regarding proprietary rights to Hell..? > > I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for > psychological attention. > Of course! And it only took you 93,791 posted messages to figure that out? World Peace could have been achieved 3 years ago with all the energy that we all waste gossiping on this forum every day... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Kennedy book blasts Bush, 'preventive war'
Kennedy book blasts Bush, 'preventive war' By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | April 5, 2006 WASHINGTON -- In a forthcoming book, Senator Edward M. Kennedy invokes the leadership of his brothers during the Cuban missile crisis to launch a sharp new attack on President Bush, declaring that Bush should have followed the example of President John F. Kennedy and his attorney general, Robert F. Kennedy, in forging a diplomatic resolution to the standoff with Saddam Hussein. Article Tools The Massachusetts Democrat writes that his brothers were right to resist advice urging them to launch a preemptive strike on Fidel Castro when missiles aimed at the United States were discovered in Cuba in 1962. They correctly argued that ''a first strike was inconsistent with American values," and would be a ''Pearl Harbor in reverse," he writes. Kennedy writes that preemptive war may be justified to prevent ''an imminent attack on our country." But he puts the Iraq war in a different category that he calls ''preventive war," which he condemns. ''The premeditated nature of preventive attacks and preventive wars makes them anathema to well-established international principles against aggression," Kennedy writes in ''America Back on Track," which is scheduled to be released April 18. Bush's decision to invade Iraq, Kennedy says, was an example of ''preventive war" -- attacking a nation to prevent it from developing the ability to threaten the United States. A similar manner of thinking led the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor in 1941, he writes, since Japan was seeking to block the US military buildup in the Pacific. ''Preventive war is consistent with neither our values nor our national security," he writes. ''It gives other nations an excuse to violate fundamental principles of civilized international behavior, and the downward spiral we initiate could well engulf the whole planet." In 2002, shortly before the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration issued a ''National Security Strategy" that called for preemptive war in some cases, citing the need to root out terrorist threats before they fully materialize. Last month, the administration reaffirmed that policy ''under longstanding principles of self defense," despite the mistaken assumptions about Iraq's weapons capabilities that contributed to the decision to invade. Kennedy, who voted against the Iraq war and remains one of its harshest critics, said Bush's National Security Strategy is ''too extreme" in its reaction to Sept. 11, 2001, he writes, since it ''legitimizes a first strike, and elevates it to a core security doctrine." ''War should always be our last resort. Instead, the Bush administration made preventive war an option of first resort," Kennedy writes. ''America Back on Track," Kennedy's first book since 1982, is being published in a year that Democrats have high hopes for regaining control of Congress. It offers a vision for the nation that draws heavily on lessons from Kennedy's 43 years in the Senate, in addition to his role in one of the most prominent political families in the nation's history. The book incorporates a broad indictment of the Bush administration and its policies. He accuses the president of engaging in an ''unprecedented level of secrecy" about government operations, bemoans the Republican ''culture of corruption" in Washington, and criticizes policies that he says harm the environment, the economy, and the education system. Kennedy's policy proposals will surprise few who follow liberal politics. He calls for a higher minimum wage, billions of dollars in new education spending, higher taxes on the wealthy, equal rights for gays and lesbians, and universal healthcare run through the federal government. Most of the policies, he writes, will ''pay for themselves" by boosting the nation's productivity. In an antidote to the Republican Party's demands for smaller government, Kennedy offers a full-throated defense of a vigorous federal government that can fight for equal rights, lessen economic inequalities, and contribute to a robust and stable society. ''The blunderbuss demands of the right wing that we downsize all areas of government ignore two hundred years of history -- two hundred years of partnerships between business and government that made America the largest and most productive economy in the world," he writes. Kennedy, 74, rarely references his famous family members in public statements, but the book is peppered with anecdotes and lessons learned from his siblings, parents, and grandparents. He recalls his grandfather, John F. ''Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald -- a former congressman and mayor of Boston -- imparting stories of American history and tips about political campaigning. Kennedy fondly recounts the story of his ''brother Jack" taking him on a tour of Washington as a 14-year-old that he said inspired him to enter public service. ''It's good that you're interested in seeing those buildings, Teddy,"
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just how did this thread go from a remarkably simple and fair contract > regarding proprietary rights to Hell..? > > I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for > psychological attention. Ahh, something we can all agree on!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > wrote: > > > > sparaig wrote: > > > And what have they been? > > > > > The only specific reference to the Marshy, low-down or otherwise, or > > to TM research by Ken Wilber that I can find in any of Wilber's books > > or tapes is contained in his introduction to 'Spiritual Choices' - > > it's in most public libraries. However, I would have expected a lot > > more discussion by Wilber concerning the research on TM and the > > mechanics of conciousness. Maybe he just doesn't have the expertise to > > make any comments on it. > > > Earlier this am you're promoting Wilber as the expert on TM lowdown > and wanting to wager me about it, now you're saying the exact > opposite. You say this am I'm untrustworthy because yrs ago I worked > in the mov't, then you brag about being an insider. You say you're an > TM insider but think the job of personal secretaries to MMY was just > to carry his skin (because of the term "skin boy", I guess). You talk > like an expert on Wilber but wonder if he has the expertise to comment > on the mechanics of consciousness ... I'll leave it to Judy to come up > with the rest of the internal conflicts in your postings, though since > you're an enemy of her enemy, she probably won't bother. > Oh, don't worry about that. He's also an enemy of Judy's. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
I think some of the people on this list is in serious need for first-grade grammar. Sal On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:53 PM, peterklutz wrote: I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for psychological attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/06 11:20 AM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Vaj wrote: > >> I was thinking of more recent material and comment like > >> seen here over the last several years. > >> > > The information here sucks, big time. If all you've got is a few > > emails from ex-Marshy skin boys, then you've really got nothing. Skin > > boys don't know Jack. If insiders like Rick and Mark, who have spent > > years inside the TMO, don't have the dirty lowdown, then probably > > nobody has it. That is, unless Rick and Mark were never really inside > > the TMO in the first place. In order to be inside the TMO you'd have > > to be inside the big house at Vlodrop inside the Marshy's bedroom. > > Like Jennifer, Judith, Linda, Angie, etc., etc. Well, Maharishi, was born the same year, as President Kennedy(1917)... And we'll never know all the details of his life, or the organisations, he was involved with, or were involved with him. Some revelations should be revealed at sometime in the future, when Jackie Kennedy's writings are revealed. But Maharishi doesn't have a Jackie in his life; His Jackie is Guru Dev... It's a different culture. He didn't grow up in Brooklyn, or Boston, we have to remember that. And his experiences of the sixties might be different then what we remember... Who really knows anything, about anything, really.. When it comes to the internal workings of a person, an organization, or even a wife or husband. Anyone ever hear of Maya... > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh > > > know this information? > > > > > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then > > studying with his master for thirteen years? > > > > > Does his name contain Saraswati? > > > > > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru > > Dev. Not to mention his given name, Mahesh, which means Shiva Yogi. > > But Mahesh doesn't need any names at all really - a Maharishi dwarfs > > any epithets given to most others. But I suspect that the reason > > Mahesh isn't a Saraswati is that a person has to join the recluse > > order founded by Shankaracharya before the surname Saraswati is used. > > Mahesh didn't want to join the Order - Swamis suffer, Yogis enjoy. > > > Would a real Maharishi goes into business? Yes. > Would one say give me a million to sit in another room and watch me on TV? ...not one who wanted to be SUCCESSFUL in going into business... > There is no Maharishi in TMO. > ...and there's no ASS in ASSUME... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational > > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's names > > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in > > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > > > They would go to hell. > > > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the puja > > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down > > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all > > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition. > > It's SOP for devotees. > > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says about one who sells this > secret knowledge. > Yeah, and the Holy Bible says that if my neighbour works on the Sabbath that he should be put to death. So what's your point? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > Isn't it all pretty much on this forum and its archives, available > > to all and any with a computer and an internet link? > > > Yes, but it is in a scattered and somewhat disconnected fashion. What > we should have for posterity is an authentic inside view and expose-- > like those on the Hare Krishna movement, Rajneesh, etc. My guess is > if he had lived in the US we would've seen one a long time ago. > Well, if someone wants to archive all the little gems herein contained, they can have themselves a wee little book... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > Maybe Wilbur takes the attitude that alot of still-practitioners- of- > > TM, like myself, on this forum take: the practise is the practise > > and whether MMY is a mass-murderer doesn't change whether the > > practise works or not. > > "Rely on the teaching, not the teacher". > Yeah, it has served me well. I used to get so upset when I read stuff about the TMO that I didn't like and then I realized: hey, what in heck's name does all THAT stuff have to do with TM. Nuttin', honey. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > > > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational > > > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's names > > > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in > > > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > > > > > They would go to hell. > > > > > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > > > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > > > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the puja > > > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down > > > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all > > > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > > > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition. > > > It's SOP for devotees. > > > > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says about one who sells > this > > secret knowledge. > > > > Yes, it says they go to hell. > Just how did this thread go from a remarkably simple and fair contract regarding proprietary rights to Hell..? I think some of the folks on this list is in serious need for psychological attention. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard J. Williams wrote: > > >markmeredith wrote: > > > > > >>Most every Indian spiritual group I've investigated uses some > >>of the bija mantras - not necessarily in an eye-closed effortless > >>meditation practice, but they seem to be very commonly known. > >> > >> > >> > >So, it's a common practice all over India - Mr. Perino was mistaken. > > > > > > > >>As discussed here recently, early TMers report they weren't given > >>bij mantras, but "Ram". > >> > >> > >> > >Maybe so, but I'm TM meditator #212 in the USA, according to Beaulah > >Smith, and I never got a 'Ram' bija mantra. From what I've read, the > >very first TM meditator in India, a certain Mr. Raya, recieved the > >same bija I recieved in 1965, that would be ten years after the > >founding of the SRM by Marshy. > > > > > > > It is alleged that Maharishi when he was first teaching used the "Ram" > mantra. Bhagavan Das in his book "It's Here Now (Are You?)" claims he > was given the Ram mantra by Maharishi when he met shortly after arriving > in India. Bhagavan Das was the "young American" in India that Ram Das > wrote about in "Be Here Now." "Ram" is considered a shanti mantra. So > by the time you learned the techniques may well have changed as MMY > probably felt he needed a system for his teachers. > In '75 a Christian Fundamentalist was in Fairfield who claimed TM was evil had been initiated in the early or mid '60s (I can't remember exactly) and he also said that that was the mantra he was given. He said this at a town meeting where he spoke from a dias that also included Johnathan Shear. When he said his mantra, Shear said to him: "Are you sure that's the mantra you got? That doesn't sound right!" And the Fundie angrily responded: "Well, that's the one they gave me!" I sorta got the impression that the Fundie felt that in getting such a "pedestrian" and "common" mantra that maybe he was ripped off. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's names > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > They would go to hell. > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the puja > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition. > It's SOP for devotees. > Who are you calling a sap, mister? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Churning the Milk Ocean
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > Interesting how people want to assume that Soma is current > > hallucinogens. > > > Hallucinogen ingestion has existed since the beginning of plant > cultivation. Apparently one of the first plants domesticated by man > was the barley plant, from which the ancients made beer. Closely > followed by hemp and then shrooms. There's no evidence that alcaloid > use is a recent practice in India. Millions of yogis, fakirs, and > saints chew betel nut I had Sweet Pan once on the streets of Delhi. But I'm no saint. > and dip snuff on a daily basis in India and have > done so for thousands of years. > > > McKenna probably believed is own mind while tripping. > > > Maybe so, but there's no evidence that McKenna ever tripped on anything. > > > Baseless assumption. > > > We can assume that what was composed in Mandala X in the Rig Veda by > the rishis was an accurate description of a decotion called Soma. I > therefore infer from the scriptures that Amrita is the Food of the > Gods, an elixir that enabled immortality. Maybe you've got a better > theory than McKenna - if so please post it here. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 11:29 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > It was a shock at the time. > > > > > > > You're easily shocked since succession issues have been all the rage > > in religious and spiritual traditions since the dawn of history. > > It was the first time I had heard of a Shankaracharya student > poisoning his teacher. Not true. Elle Driver (played by Darryl Hannah) did it to her master, Pai Mei, whem she fed him poisoned fish in Kill Bill, Vol. II. > You also need to understand that no one I had > spoken to had heard of this poisoning scenario at the time--this was > c. 1980. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
Richard J. Williams wrote: >>>So, you're saying that many other temples in India, not just >>>Brahmanand's headquarters matha at Sringeri, practice a >>>meditation similar to TM and that the use of some TM bija >>>mantras is widespread. >>> >>> >>> >Vaj wrote: > > >>We've discussed your misconceptions on these subjects many >>times Willie. >> >> >> >There's no 'Willie', but if it makes you feel superior, call me by my >email address. > > > >>If you haven't gotten it by now, I suspect you don't want to. >> >> >> >The only thing I've been able to get out of you is that you think >you've got the dirty low-down on the Marshy and the Swami Rama. But >you've admitted that techniques similar to TM and the use of the same >bijas are in widespread use all over India. That leads me to conclude >that TM is probably the most popular meditation practice in all of >India. When you put that together with the popularity of the >Deepackage and the Sri Sri, Marshy is like a household word over >there. There must be millions of people in India doing program based >on the teachings of Marshy. > > When was the last time you were in India, Willy? Your statement also shows your ignorance of mantra shastra and Hindu traditions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
Suzerain 1. A nation that controls another nation in international affairs but allows it domestic sovereignty. 2. A feudal lord to whom fealty was due. Draw your own conclusions.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I only wrote, what had happened. There is a subtle difference between the two words. > > > jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:42:30 - > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] > > > "Suzerainty" is defined as 'overlordship', very similar in meaning as sovereignty in this context. So this great journalistic coup of Mr. Spock's (aka The Dude) is more red herring than anything else... > > > > > > > > Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the > > Chinese invasion of Tibet.? > > > > > > > There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade > > Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet." > > > > > > > The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the > message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!" > > > > > > > The next day China marched into Tibet. > > > I don't get it...what's "suzerainity"? > > > > > > > - > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
I only wrote, what had happened. There is a subtle difference between the two words. jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:42:30 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] "Suzerainty" is defined as 'overlordship', very similar in meaning as sovereignty in this context. So this great journalistic coup of Mr. Spock's (aka The Dude) is more red herring than anything else...> > > > > Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the > Chinese invasion of Tibet.?> > > > > There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade > Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet."> > > > > The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!"> > > > > The next day China marched into Tibet.> I don't get it...what's "suzerainity"?> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > Just a rumor? Why, our Vaj just told us Maharishi was > > a "leading suspect"! > > Don't kill the messenger! Actually it was Sri Swami Rama, a student > of Guru Dev's, who said it. So take it up with his ashes! > This Swami Rama must've been a very very poor student of his... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
on 4/5/06 1:32 PM, anon_astute_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> on 4/5/06 12:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> anon_astute_ff wrote: If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh know this information? >>> By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then >>> studying with his master for thirteen years? >>> Does his name contain Saraswati? >>> Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru >>> Dev. >> >> Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, or so I >> understood. >> > > now this opens up that can of worms. Probably he was when he was using that name. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh > > > know this information? > > > > > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then > > studying with his master for thirteen years? > > > > > Does his name contain Saraswati? > > > > > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru > > Dev. Not to mention his given name, Mahesh, which means Shiva Yogi. > > But Mahesh doesn't need any names at all really - a Maharishi dwarfs > > any epithets given to most others. But I suspect that the reason > > Mahesh isn't a Saraswati is that a person has to join the recluse > > order founded by Shankaracharya before the surname Saraswati is used. > > Mahesh didn't want to join the Order - Swamis suffer, Yogis enjoy. > > > Would a real Maharishi goes into business? > Would one say give me a million to sit in another room and watch me on TV? > There is no Maharishi in TMO. > Doesn't caste determine eligibility? How would an orthodox Shankaracharya like Brahmananda Saraswati waver from that? Ksatriya's go into business. Sure he may have gained realization from his devotion, but to assume he was privy to Sri Vidya knowledge doesn't add up. He wasn't brahmin and it has been suggested that mahesh's caste may not have even been that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/06 12:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > >> If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh > >> know this information? > >> > > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then > > studying with his master for thirteen years? > > > >> Does his name contain Saraswati? > >> > > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru > > Dev. > > Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, or so I > understood. > now this opens up that can of worms. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
on 4/5/06 12:30 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > anon_astute_ff wrote: >> If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh >> know this information? >> > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then > studying with his master for thirteen years? > >> Does his name contain Saraswati? >> > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru > Dev. Doesn't "Bal" mean "boy" - Bal Brahmachari means life celibate, or so I understood. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational > > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's names > > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in > > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > > > They would go to hell. > > > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the puja > > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down > > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all > > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition. > > It's SOP for devotees. > > > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says about one > who sells this > secret knowledge. > Yes, it says they go to hell. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Yugadi celebrations in Hyderabad and Raga Sagara Concert
Jaya Guru Datta These links are to the latest happenings of Sri Ganapati Sachchidananda Swamiji in Hyderabad, India. http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/tours/2006/hyderabad/hyderabad2006.html http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/tours/2006/hyderabad/ragasagara/ ragasagara2006.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Churning the Milk Ocean
Jaya Guru Datta Here is an excerpt on the Churning and Kurma incarnation of Lord Vishnu: http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/bhaktimala/Jan97/Incarnations.html Next is Kurma Avatara. The incarnation as a tortoise. God came and got Amrita for the Devatas. The demons were deprived of it. God did it in a very wise manner. Feelings are important. Scold somebody in a foul temper. He will be hurt. But smilingly correcting someone will be taken in a light manner. If wisdom and gentleness are there, it is not enough. The Rakshashas [demons] had strength. So to take Amrita out of the ocean, He needed the help of the demons [for strength]. Then the Devatas went and surrendered to the demons. The demons became happy. The Angels served the demons. Right from Indra, all the angels served. It is said that to get work done, one has to pray evento a donkey if necessary. After some time passed, the angels submitted a plan to the demons. If we together, churn the milky ocean, Amrita will come out and by consuming it, we all can become immortal. They accepted. Mandara mountain was brought and placed in the ocean. Since there was no support for the mountain to float, it sank. Then the Devatas prayed to Vishnu to help them. He took a special incarnation as Kurma, i.e. the tortoise. When the Lord supported in the form of a tortoise, the mountain floated. Vasuki, the celestial snake became the churning rope. The mountain became the churning stick. Have you ever churned anything? At least seen anybody churning? "No", I presume. The tortoise is a special animal. It is mild, soft, shy and slow. Vasuki became tired and started to throw out poison. It enveloped the whole world and became a potential danger. Then Lord Shiva drank the poison and protected the world. When you do seva, confusion comes. There will be so many obstacles. We almost become fed up. Only when we crave for something do we understand its importancet. Go to Tirupati. Stand in the queue and have Darshan. You will be craving for the Lord by the time you come to the Sanctum Sanctorium for Darshan. Going there as VIP for special Darshan has no value. Devotion comes only in the hard way. During the development of devotion, confusions do come. Do not worry. It is a good sign. Bad must intervene to make the good more valuable. The churning continued with a great sound. A small churning in a house makes so much sound. Imagine this celestial churning. So much activity...so much sound. All activities have methods. If you sit before milk and beg the butter to come out, will it come out? No. Churning is necessary. The churning continued. Several objects came out. The celestial elephant, Goddess Lakshmi, etc. etc.,came out. Lakshmi went straight in to the heart of Lord Vishnu. The churning continued. Then Dhanvantari, the celestial doctor, appeared from the ocean, holding the pot of Amrita. Dhanvantari appeared. He had four hands. Two visible, and two invisible. The invisible hands have secret mudras. Meditating on them brings good health. He had a Mala -the Vana Maala. Of the two visible hands, one had the pot of Amrita and the other hand showed Abhaya [Protection]. He is the god of herbs. Seeing Dhanvantari, both Devathas and Rakshasaas rushed to him. The demons, by virtue of sheer strength overpowered the angels and grabbed the pot away. The dejected angels prayed to Vishnu "O' Swami, come now. We are in distress. You gave us the idea of churning to produce Amrita. You came as a tortoise and ensured that the churning took place. Please come now." Dhanvantari gave the Amrita and disappeared. Vishnu came in the form of a damsel [Mohini]. That damsel was so immensely beautiful. The demons, seeing her, left the Amrita and went to her. She charmed them. The demons became her servants and submitted themselves to her. Attraction or desire is dangerous. One who is lustful has no fear or shyness. It was Vishnu who was Mohini. So you can imagine her beauty. Mohini got the pot of Amrita and promised to share it among the angels and demons. The demons readily agreed. Amrita was given only to the Devatas and the demons did not get it. Our Antaraatma is the ocean. Viveka is the Mandara mountain. The Praana Vaayu, i.e. our uchchvaasa and Nishshvaasa are the hissing of Vaasuki (the snake). The Dushta Bhavana (evil thought) is Rakshasha and Sadbhaavana (good thought) is the Devata. Vichara charcha, i.e., the process of thinking, is the churning. The answer or reply to our thinking is the Amrita. Constantly thinking about a problem generally gives answers by itself. The Lord will give an answer. The Lord never deprives you of what you deserve. You many times think "He [Lord] has deserted me ". You speak as if he owes you something. He will give you out of compassion. Just because he has compassion, it does not mean that you will get it free. You have to earn it with hard work, g
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > And what have they been? > > > The only specific reference to the Marshy, low-down or otherwise, or > to TM research by Ken Wilber that I can find in any of Wilber's books > or tapes is contained in his introduction to 'Spiritual Choices' - > it's in most public libraries. However, I would have expected a lot > more discussion by Wilber concerning the research on TM and the > mechanics of conciousness. Maybe he just doesn't have the expertise to > make any comments on it. > Earlier this am you're promoting Wilber as the expert on TM lowdown and wanting to wager me about it, now you're saying the exact opposite. You say this am I'm untrustworthy because yrs ago I worked in the mov't, then you brag about being an insider. You say you're an TM insider but think the job of personal secretaries to MMY was just to carry his skin (because of the term "skin boy", I guess). You talk like an expert on Wilber but wonder if he has the expertise to comment on the mechanics of consciousness ... I'll leave it to Judy to come up with the rest of the internal conflicts in your postings, though since you're an enemy of her enemy, she probably won't bother. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh > > know this information? > > > By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then > studying with his master for thirteen years? > > > Does his name contain Saraswati? > > > Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru > Dev. Not to mention his given name, Mahesh, which means Shiva Yogi. > But Mahesh doesn't need any names at all really - a Maharishi dwarfs > any epithets given to most others. But I suspect that the reason > Mahesh isn't a Saraswati is that a person has to join the recluse > order founded by Shankaracharya before the surname Saraswati is used. > Mahesh didn't want to join the Order - Swamis suffer, Yogis enjoy. > Would a real Maharishi goes into business? Would one say give me a million to sit in another room and watch me on TV? There is no Maharishi in TMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? > > > Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational > expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's names > carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in > India to give money to your guru for instruction. > > > They would go to hell. > > > Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. > > > What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? > > > Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the puja > to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down > before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all > cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - > some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition. > It's SOP for devotees. > If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says about one who sells this secret knowledge. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > Isn't it all pretty much on this forum and its archives, available > to all and any with a computer and an internet link? Yes, but it is in a scattered and somewhat disconnected fashion. What we should have for posterity is an authentic inside view and expose-- like those on the Hare Krishna movement, Rajneesh, etc. My guess is if he had lived in the US we would've seen one a long time ago. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM
On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > Maybe Wilbur takes the attitude that alot of still-practitioners-of- > TM, like myself, on this forum take: the practise is the practise > and whether MMY is a mass-murderer doesn't change whether the > practise works or not. "Rely on the teaching, not the teacher". Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Churning the Milk Ocean
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > Interesting how people want to assume that Soma is current > > hallucinogens. > > > Hallucinogen ingestion has existed since the beginning of plant > cultivation. Apparently one of the first plants domesticated by man > was the barley plant, from which the ancients made beer. Closely > followed by hemp and then shrooms. There's no evidence that alcaloid > use is a recent practice in India. Millions of yogis, fakirs, and > saints chew betel nut and dip snuff on a daily basis in India and have > done so for thousands of years. > > > McKenna probably believed is own mind while tripping. > > > Maybe so, but there's no evidence that McKenna ever tripped on anything. > > > Baseless assumption. > > > We can assume that what was composed in Mandala X in the Rig Veda by > the rishis was an accurate description of a decotion called Soma. I > therefore infer from the scriptures that Amrita is the Food of the > Gods, an elixir that enabled immortality. Maybe you've got a better > theory than McKenna - if so please post it here. > No better theory...No disagreement about what you have purported here. Just disagreeing with McKenna saying psylocibin mushrooms are soma. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara's native language?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The first and original Shankara is Lord Shiva - the Adi > > > Shankara. Shankara in his lifetime was referred to as > > > Acharya Shree. > > > > anon_astute_ff wrote: > > Pardon... but how do you know this for sure? > > > One of my teachers, Swami Prakashanand Saraswati, a direct desciple of > Guru Dev, told me so. He's a pundit and a bhakta - very learned. > > > Are you suggesting it is incorrect to refer to Shankara as > > Adi Shankara? > > > No, not if you're a scholar or an author, but if you're a devotee, > you'd refer to the master as Acharya Shree or Guru Dev, and reserve > the Adi for Lord Shiva, the original Shankara. Most likely, devotees > during Shankaracharya's lifetime would have addressed him as 'Shree' > using their native language, probably a dialect of Malayam. > My Preceptor, Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji has often referred to that great philosopher as Adi Shankara. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
