[FairfieldLife] Surviving Whole Foods
Very funny article, one made more poignant by living in France and the Netherlands, where Bio (Organic) foods are found in almost every supermarket, and at prices not much higher than lesser produce. There are fewer craze foods, and there are FAR fewer crazies buying them. Here, you eat to live (and eat *well*); you don't live to eat. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-maclean/surviving-whole-foods_b_3895\ 583.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-maclean/surviving-whole-foods_b_389\ 5583.html Amidst the humor, the author makes some good points. For example, Ever notice that you don't meet poor people with special diet needs? Similarly, have you ever noticed that people whose spiritual paths are actually *working* for them don't spend most of their time obses- sing on their health and what they eat and the esoteric snake oil healings they *need* to stay healthy? What's wrong with TM that so many of its followers obsess on these things so consistently? Posted even though I know from experience that it'll probably take anywhere from two hours to two days to appear. I suspect Yahoo's server personnel are drinking too much kombuchka (Japanese for 'I gizzed in your tea'). :-)
[FairfieldLife] Giving
This three-minute clip is an ad, for a Thai telecommunications company. That said, you'll want to watch it, because it contains better storytelling in those three minutes (not to mention a more uplifting message) than most of the full-length movies produced these days. http://gawker.com/this-three-minute-commercial-puts-full-length-hollywoo\ d-1309506149 http://gawker.com/this-three-minute-commercial-puts-full-length-hollywo\ od-1309506149
[FairfieldLife] Endings
As a fan of good television series, it's interesting for me to be watching four of them end (two for the season, two forever) at the same time. Sometimes in the harsh and pitiless world of TV, the creators of a series don't even *get* to do a good ending to their series. The classic example, of course, is Joss Whedon's Firefly, which was cut down in mid-first-season and which, if he hadn't been able to pull off the film Serenity to finish things up gracefully, would have ended very badly indeed. Leading the good endings race so far IMO is, of course, Breaking Bad. That series has two more episodes to go, and is building up to present the best ending of a long-running TV show in history. At the same time, the Aaron Sorkin series The Newsroom broadcast its last two-parter of the season last Sunday, and I thought they did a pretty good job with it. Especially because it's still an open question as to whether there will be a season 3. The reason is, for once, *not* network caprice, but creator caprice. Sorkin is the sole writer, and he simply may not choose to go forward with such a time commitment. I for one hope he does, but he managed an ending to season 2 that play double purpose, in that it could easily stand as the ending of the whole series if he chooses to bail. Over on BBC America, there is only one more episode of Copper to go for this season, and although the storytelling is more traditional and not as cutting edge as Breaking Bad, I think they're doing a pretty good job of tying things up and leaving us waiting for the next season. The acting, writing, and production have all been exemplary so far, and I see no reason why they can't continue to be. But at the end of the pack -- and a MAJOR disappointment -- comes Dexter. It's as if this series' creators are taking Dexter's dark passenger and trying to give it a bleach job. Bleeeaah. As one critic on IMDB put it, rather succinctly, if you check the stats, six of the *lowest* rated episodes of the entire series have been during this last season. Sad. They've pissed away all the interest we once had in the characters by (IMO) trying to come up with some namby-pamby ending that satisfies everyone but without exposing Dexter to the kind of Ultimate Humiliation and Disgrace that Walter White is going through. I suspect they're going to find a way to either kill him off or let him get away without any commupance for all his years as a serial killer, and that safe path is taking away pretty much all of my interest in the series. At this point, I'm just waiting for next Sunday so it'll be OVER, and I can stop watching it. And that's sorta the point of this rant. A good ending leaves you wanting more. A bad ending doesn't.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
[FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Alex says, completely without bias: :-) I remain absolutely, completely, totally delighted with the absence of posting limits. Thanks for asking! To be honest, it would be the same group of angry, deranged harpies playing dueling egos with each other and forcing everyone else either to read them or scroll past them with the same rapidity you'd walk through a bad neighborhood in the Bronx, even *with* posting limits. All that the lack of them does is just encourage these ego-bots to indulge in their embarrassing behavior as much as they want to. It just strikes me as a rather unsettling commentary on the promises of the TM technique that at least two of its long-term (probably 40+ years or regular practice in each case) practitioners seem to believe (as demonstrated by their behavior on this forum) that their lives revolve around starting and winning (in their minds, at least) arguments on the Internet. Another commentary is provided by the number of other long- term TM practitioners on the forum, who are so bored or so pussified that they either let them get away with this, or actually join in. Nice to have a real-world, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road demonstration of what Maharishi meant by TM delivering heaven on earth, isn't it? ...the Science of Creative Intelligence® provides a practical means to unfold the permanent experience of higher states of consciousness and offers the theoretical understanding of that experience which is necessary for the most rapid growth towards enlightenment. Example: - Such-and-such is a liar. - Is not. - Is so. - Is not, and you're loathsome for calling him one. - Am not. - Are so. [ repeat ad infinitum ] :-) :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Aren't you all happy that you've managed to get rid of the posting limits, so that angry, unhappy old people can lure other angry, unhappy old people into arguments to fluff up their egos and assert their rightness as much as they want, as if that would keep away the death they're so terrified of? 39 authfriend 36 Share Long (really 43) 28 s3raphita 22 Michael Jackson (really 24) 21 punditster (really 22) 20 Emily Reyn (really 26) 14 jr_esq 14 dhamiltony2k5 11 bobpriced 11 awoelflebater (really 13) http://www.fastcompany.com/3017596/fast-feed/anger-spreads-faster-on-soc\ ial-media-than-any-other-emotion http://www.fastcompany.com/3017596/fast-feed/anger-spreads-faster-on-so\ cial-media-than-any-other-emotion --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than two days to appear on the forum. My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept 17. Grr.. that was an important post. Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo? I am still struck with the classic format. I hate delayed posts, it disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the conversations. Lighten up. 1. There is nothing Rick or Alex can do to solve Yahoo's problems. 2. Yahoo is acting as a surrogate for the Laws Of Nature, and teaching you that time is not the linear concept you believed it was. Posts arrive when it is their time to arrive, not when you want them to arrive. 3. There is *no such thing* as an important post. This is FFL. No kidding:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
turq, all posters are acting as surrogates for the Laws of Nature and teaching you that having to scroll past certain posts is not the challenging activity you might have thought it is. turq had written to Jason: 2. Yahoo is acting as a surrogate for the Laws Of Nature, and teaching you that time is not the linear concept you believed it was. Posts arrive when it is their time to arrive, not when you want them to arrive. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit... Alex says, completely without bias: :-) I remain absolutely, completely, totally delighted with the absence of posting limits. Thanks for asking! To be honest, it would be the same group of angry, deranged harpies playing dueling egos with each other and forcing everyone else either to read them or scroll past them with the same rapidity you'd walk through a bad neighborhood in the Bronx, even *with* posting limits. All that the lack of them does is just encourage these ego-bots to indulge in their embarrassing behavior as much as they want to. It just strikes me as a rather unsettling commentary on the promises of the TM technique that at least two of its long-term (probably 40+ years or regular practice in each case) practitioners seem to believe (as demonstrated by their behavior on this forum) that their lives revolve around starting and winning (in their minds, at least) arguments on the Internet. Another commentary is provided by the number of other long- term TM practitioners on the forum, who are so bored or so pussified that they either let them get away with this, or actually join in. Nice to have a real-world, where-the-rubber-meets-the-road demonstration of what Maharishi meant by TM delivering heaven on earth, isn't it? ...the Science of Creative Intelligence® provides a practical means to unfold the permanent experience of higher states of consciousness and offers the theoretical understanding of that experience which is necessary for the most rapid growth towards enlightenment. Example: - Such-and-such is a liar. - Is not. - Is so. - Is not, and you're loathsome for calling him one. - Am not. - Are so. [ repeat ad infinitum ] :-) :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Aren't you all happy that you've managed to get rid of the posting limits, so that angry, unhappy old people can lure other angry, unhappy old people into arguments to fluff up their egos and assert their rightness as much as they want, as if that would keep away the death they're so terrified of? 39 authfriend 36 Share Long (really 43) 28 s3raphita 22 Michael Jackson (really 24) 21 punditster (really 22) 20 Emily Reyn (really 26) 14 jr_esq 14 dhamiltony2k5 11 bobpriced 11 awoelflebater (really 13) http://www.fastcompany.com/3017596/fast-feed/anger-spreads-faster-on-social-media-than-any-other-emotion --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than two days to appear on the forum. My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept 17. Grr.. that was an important post. Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo? I am still struck with the classic format. I hate delayed posts, it disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the conversations. Lighten up. 1. There is nothing Rick or Alex can do to solve Yahoo's problems. 2. Yahoo is acting as a surrogate for the Laws Of Nature, and teaching you that time is not the linear concept you believed it was. Posts arrive when it is their time to arrive, not when you want them to arrive. 3. There is *no such thing* as an important post. This is FFL. No kidding:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Surviving Whole Foods
thanks, turq, this made me LOL. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Surviving Whole Foods Very funny article, one made more poignant by living in France and the Netherlands, where Bio (Organic) foods are found in almost every supermarket, and at prices not much higher than lesser produce. There are fewer craze foods, and there are FAR fewer crazies buying them. Here, you eat to live (and eat *well*); you don't live to eat. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-maclean/surviving-whole-foods_b_3895583.html Amidst the humor, the author makes some good points. For example, Ever notice that you don't meet poor people with special diet needs? Similarly, have you ever noticed that people whose spiritual paths are actually *working* for them don't spend most of their time obses- sing on their health and what they eat and the esoteric snake oil healings they *need* to stay healthy? What's wrong with TM that so many of its followers obsess on these things so consistently? Posted even though I know from experience that it'll probably take anywhere from two hours to two days to appear. I suspect Yahoo's server personnel are drinking too much kombuchka (Japanese for 'I gizzed in your tea'). :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giving
thanks, turq, this made me cry. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giving This three-minute clip is an ad, for a Thai telecommunications company. That said, you'll want to watch it, because it contains better storytelling in those three minutes (not to mention a more uplifting message) than most of the full-length movies produced these days. http://gawker.com/this-three-minute-commercial-puts-full-length-hollywood-1309506149
Re: [FairfieldLife] Endings
thanks, turq, this made me ponder: A good ending leaves you wanting more. A bad ending doesn't. I'd say instead: a good ending leaves you open for more. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Endings snip A good ending leaves you wanting more. A bad ending doesn't.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
And I think you would be about 100% accurate about that! And talk about busting a gut. The fact that Buck, being Buck created such a ruckus did provide some much needed entertainment for me. God Save The Queen! From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed My guess is that just about all FFL posters realized that Buck was playing as he does sometimes, being outrageous in a preacherly way. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed For Buck to falsely claim what he wrote came from the Bible is not what I'd call integrity, nor is admiring what he did. Not a thing wrong with what Buck wrote on its own terms, as far as I'm concerned. Citing it as biblical, however, is very wrong. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't understand this authbabe. Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to do with integrity. It's just Buck's playful twist on it. --- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote: You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field and pretended it came from the Bible? Such integrity. --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote: NICE, going Buck am with U in all dhamiltony2k5@... writes: In National unity of empathy and with great concern for the dead and their communities of families and friends, by the best of science I should like to see a National Day of meditation called for by the White House as a National coming together in a Unified Field. -Buck For, Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
[FairfieldLife] Message to Buck from the Unified Field
Bulletin from the Unified Field to Buck in the Dome. Dear Buck, As I, the Unified Field exist everywhere at all times, my effect is no greater in the Golden Domes than in anyplace else in the mutli-verse. Please stop invoking my name to intensify your fantasy that you affect anything in the Universe with your mantra mumbling. Were you to sit and watch the sun rise, it would have the same effect as asanas, pranayam and mantra practice. I exist everywhere all at once and I need no help from you to create any effect I desire. But since I am all desires and the lack of all desires, I have no need to affect anything. If you want to believe you are saving the world, be my guest, but don't think I am going to change human nature because you write hymns to me, or because you use a common mantra available anywhere in India. If you want to change human nature, pray to God, who is a part of me anyway, but the Deity has a different agenda. He thinks he can affect things too. Bit like you. In conclusion, mantra practice in groups will never create change of the kind you think it will, and I will thank you to keep my name out of your fantasies from now on. Signed, The Unified Field P.S. - There are only about 35 yogic flyers in Latin America, the rest in the photos are extras, non-meditators who got about 5 pesos each to pose for the photos, so don't expect any great shakes down there either.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
[FairfieldLife] RE: Giving
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[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field
Excellent. If Buck takes it upon himself to speak for the Unified Field (not to mention Jesus), he should be able to handle a little feedback from the source. For the record, I completely agree. There are three words that describe the belief that bouncing on one's butt is all that is needed to change the world in a more positive direction. And no, they're not heaven on earth. They're ego and self importance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Bulletin from the Unified Field to Buck in the Dome. Dear Buck, As I, the Unified Field exist everywhere at all times, my effect is no greater in the Golden Domes than in anyplace else in the mutli-verse. Please stop invoking my name to intensify your fantasy that you affect anything in the Universe with your mantra mumbling. Were you to sit and watch the sun rise, it would have the same effect as asanas, pranayam and mantra practice. I exist everywhere all at once and I need no help from you to create any effect I desire. But since I am all desires and the lack of all desires, I have no need to affect anything. If you want to believe you are saving the world, be my guest, but don't think I am going to change human nature because you write hymns to me, or because you use a common mantra available anywhere in India. If you want to change human nature, pray to God, who is a part of me anyway, but the Deity has a different agenda. He thinks he can affect things too. Bit like you. In conclusion, mantra practice in groups will never create change of the kind you think it will, and I will thank you to keep my name out of your fantasies from now on. Signed, The Unified Field P.S. - There are only about 35 yogic flyers in Latin America, the rest in the photos are extras, non-meditators who got about 5 pesos each to pose for the photos, so don't expect any great shakes down there either.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Endings
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Endings
I'm amending mine to: a good ending leaves me open to whatever: more, less, the same, nothing! From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Endings --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: thanks, turq, this made me ponder: A good ending leaves you wanting more. A bad ending doesn't. I'd say instead: a good ending leaves you open for more. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Endings snip A good ending leaves you wanting more. A bad ending doesn't. Eating chocolate cake leaves you wanting more, eating shit doesn't. Receiving a hot oil massage leaves you wanting more, getting hit with a 2 x 4 doesn't. Falling in love leaves you wanting more, getting dumped for another person doesn't. What is about these statements that seem so, well, obvious?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field
Ah, the ego of he who thinks he doesn't have one... From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field Excellent. If Buck takes it upon himself to speak for the Unified Field (not to mention Jesus), he should be able to handle a little feedback from the source. For the record, I completely agree. There are three words that describe the belief that bouncing on one's butt is all that is needed to change the world in a more positive direction. And no, they're not heaven on earth. They're ego and self importance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Bulletin from the Unified Field to Buck in the Dome. Dear Buck, As I, the Unified Field exist everywhere at all times, my effect is no greater in the Golden Domes than in anyplace else in the mutli-verse. Please stop invoking my name to intensify your fantasy that you affect anything in the Universe with your mantra mumbling. Were you to sit and watch the sun rise, it would have the same effect as asanas, pranayam and mantra practice. I exist everywhere all at once and I need no help from you to create any effect I desire. But since I am all desires and the lack of all desires, I have no need to affect anything. If you want to believe you are saving the world, be my guest, but don't think I am going to change human nature because you write hymns to me, or because you use a common mantra available anywhere in India. If you want to change human nature, pray to God, who is a part of me anyway, but the Deity has a different agenda. He thinks he can affect things too. Bit like you. In conclusion, mantra practice in groups will never create change of the kind you think it will, and I will thank you to keep my name out of your fantasies from now on. Signed, The Unified Field P.S. - There are only about 35 yogic flyers in Latin America, the rest in the photos are extras, non-meditators who got about 5 pesos each to pose for the photos, so don't expect any great shakes down there either.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we living in the end times?
These consciousness theories and quantum theories, don't actually change the technical aspects of Darwin's evolution. Even if irreducible consciousness did exist, as you claim, Darwin's theory still remains the same, unchanged, as sound as ever. Many new-agers are so stupid that they think these new theories negate Darwin. They don't. Impersonal consciousness, impersonal creation, impersonal evolution. --- s3raphita s3raphita@.. wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend they believe). Searle is right about that. What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness [better awareness] being that thing (or one of those things) it follows immediately that Darwinian Theory which postulates that consciousness is a late development in evolutionary history is clearly wrong. Q.E.D. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryOC83PH1g
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Alex or anyone, this is my third and hopefully last Neo question: how can I make a link clickable? The old way isn't working any more. Thanks. From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit... I remain absolutely, completely, totally delighted with the absence of posting limits. Thanks for asking!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
Judy should apologize to Buck and Share for calling them liars. Judy broke the FFL Guidelines - she should probably be suspended for at least a week from the group for calling three members liars in one week - otherwise these FFL Guidelines mean nothing. On 9/18/2013 7:00 A, Steve Sundur wrote: And I think you would be about 100% accurate about that! And talk about busting a gut. The fact that Buck, being Buck created such a ruckus did provide some much needed entertainment for me. God Save The Queen! *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed My guess is that just about all FFL posters realized that Buck was playing as he does sometimes, being outrageous in a preacherly way. *From:* authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:13 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed For Buck to falsely claim what he wrote came from the Bible is not what I'd call integrity, nor is admiring what he did. Not a thing wrong with what Buck wrote on its own terms, as far as I'm concerned. Citing it as biblical, however, is very wrong. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't understand this authbabe. Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to do with integrity. It's just Buck's playful twist on it. --- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote: You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field and pretended it came from the Bible? Such integrity. --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote: NICE, going Buck am with U in all dhamiltony2k5@... writes: In National unity of empathy and with great concern for the dead and their communities of families and friends, by the best of science I should like to see a National Day of meditation called for by the White House as a National coming together in a Unified Field. -Buck For, Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
dear punditster, all I can think is that you're getting ready to go fishing since you just opened a gigantic CAN OF WORMS! Please do not hold breath re apologies tho I agree Buck deserves one. From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed Judy should apologize to Buck and Share for calling them liars. Judy broke the FFL Guidelines - she should probably be suspended for at least a week from the group for calling three members liars in one week - otherwise these FFL Guidelines mean nothing. On 9/18/2013 7:00 A, Steve Sundur wrote: And I think you would be about 100% accurate about that! And talk about busting a gut. The fact that Buck, being Buck created such a ruckus did provide some much needed entertainment for me. God Save The Queen! From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed My guess is that just about all FFL posters realized that Buck was playing as he does sometimes, being outrageous in a preacherly way. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed For Buck to falsely claim what he wrote came from the Bible is not what I'd call integrity, nor is admiring what he did. Not a thing wrong with what Buck wrote on its own terms, as far as I'm concerned. Citing it as biblical, however, is very wrong. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't understand this authbabe. Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to do with integrity. It's just Buck's playful twist on it. --- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote: You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field and pretended it came from the Bible? Such integrity. --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote: NICE, going Buck am with U in all dhamiltony2k5@... writes: In National unity of empathy and with great concern for the dead and their communities of families and friends, by the best of science I should like to see a National Day of meditation called for by the White House as a National coming together in a Unified Field. -Buck For, Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20
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Re: [FairfieldLife] MGF Chat 16 September 2013 - The Global Country of World Peace is quietly working for peace in the Syria Crisis
OK, so how much are we *supposed* to give? And if we don't, is it all our fault? From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MGF Chat 16 September 2013 - The Global Country of World Peace is quietly working for peace in the Syria Crisis From: Maharishi's Global Family Chat m...@maharishi.netSubject: [News] MGF Chat 16 September 2013 - The Global Country of World Peace is quietly working for peace in the Syria CrisisDate: September 17, 2013 3:03:19 PM CDTTo: Richard Mays dickm...@lisco.com Maharishi’s Global Family Chat 16 September 2013 Video archives |Summary online The Global Country of World Peace is quietly working for peace in the Syria Crisis Dr Swan presented an update on the efforts of the Global Country of World Peace to bring peace to Syria and the Middle East. Background On 21 August a chemical attack took place in Syria, which is against international conventions. US President Obama had indicated that if Syria crossed the ‘red line’ of using chemical weapons, it would change his thinking about implementing military action, and the attack therefore triggered a push by the US for military intervention. To counteract the threat of increased war, the Global Council of Maharaja Adhiraj Raja Raam immediately formed a special committee to deal with the crisis. Together with the Ambassador Resource Office and Raja Hagelin’s US National Yagya programme a campaign was started to create peace through coordinated group practice of Yogic Flying and Maharishi Yagya. Other countries considered joining the US campaign for war, and at noon on 29 August the UK Prime Minister and National Security Council met and decided to back military action, and to put this to a vote in the House of Commons the next day. Efforts to implement Maharishi’s technologies for peace for Syria On hearing this news, Peter and Bibette Leadbetter, who coordinate the Yagya programme for the UK, quickly ordered two National Yagyas to help the situation in Syria. Later the same afternoon it was announced that the Prime Minister had backtracked, and put off any military action. Opinion polls show that the majority of Britons are opposed to such action. Raja Hagelin then wrote a letter on behalf of the Global Union of Scientists for Peace, to be presented to political leaders. On 7 September President Obama tried but failed to get strong support from Congress for military intervention, and in fact faced lots of opposition at the G-20 summit. These events remind us that at the time of the Taste of Utopia Conference in 1983, when Maharishi was told that the results showed even before the Assembly came together at Fairfield, he said that just the intention is enough to begin bringing the trends in the right direction. Many initiatives under way for peace In a very short period of time 24 counties and over 40 requests brought in a very large Yagya for Syria which started on September 9 - day of removal of obstacles which also happened to be the date of the US Congress vote! Also on the 13 September, 15 more countries (including the US) brought an even larger Yagya for peace. Members of the Global Country of World Peace committee for Syria described other activities to support peace: * Raja Paul outlined arrangements for a large World Peace Assembly in Cyprus, which is close to the Middle East, but is completely safe and secure (and beautiful). The time and location will be announced very soon. * Raja Kingsley said Israel has 3 groups practicing Yogic Flying at Super-radiance times together to create coherence in the collective consciousness. * Lothar Pirc described the great programme of mailing Raja Hagelin’s letter to 800 EU Members of Parliament, and to the press and others. * Dr Ashley Deans presents the peace plan at the Brussels press conference (on Tuesday 17 September) for 2000 Yogic Flyers to be trained in Syria, enough to bring peace to the entire Middle East. Meetings taking place on 17 September These meetings are scheduled for 17 September, which is the auspicious Vedic celebration day of Vishwakarma, the quality of intelligence that is the ‘architect of the universe’. Everyone is invited to join the celebration which begins at 1.35 pm Holland time. Next Large Yagya – 22 September Many more countries have come forward for the next urgent Yagya focusing on peace for Syria and the Middle East that will start on September 22. We all realise it is very important to keep the flow flowing to ensure that this turn around for peace and safety in Syria and the positive actions of other influential nations continues. Final date to submit donations is September 19 – go to www.vedicpandits.org. We will enjoy a follow-up report from the Syria committee on the progress being made on Wednesday evening during Maharishi’s
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Are we living in the end times?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate
Dit-dit- dit-dittos! From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate There has been a great deal of twisting by TMers of Christian Scripture (including by Maharishi) to make it appear to be consonant with the TM teaching. I'm strongly against that. The TM teaching ought to be able to stand on its own. There are plenty of naive TMers who buy into it, and I think it's important to be scrupulous about our use of Scripture so as not to mislead them. As I told Buck, he could easily have cited what he wrote as a free paraphrase or loose interpretation of Matthew 18:20 according to TM, and let everyone decide on their own whether that made sense, rather than citing it as Matthew 18:20.. In mainstream Christianity, Jesus is not Christ Consciousness or the One Self or the Unified Field. Granted at this point he wouldn't be embodied, but he is understood as a divine personal being to whom one can relate directly, not just a type of higher consciousness. I also think to equate There am I in the midst of them with The Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect is a huge stretch, especially since the Unified Field is impersonal, whereas Jesus is personal. If you make it abstract enough, you can equate just about anything with anything else, no matter how far apart the concrete versions are. At a certain point, that sort of attempt becomes underhanded and deliberately misleading. And it shows a lack of respect for the original. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck is being playful. Does anyone really imagine that the following quote could be lifted from the New Testament? “Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect”. And, as happens, as an interpretation of what the New Testament writer was getting at, Buck's is an arguable (loose) interpretation. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Matthew 18:20 in effective transcending meditation= together in my name. . . What are the Christians doing together in his name if not praying, ie, meditating? Matthew isn't talking about singing third-rate hymns. the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect= am I in the midst of them. . . The I here does not refer to Jesus, a particular first-century rabbi, but to Christ Consciousness, ie, the One Self, ie, the Unified Field. Perhaps Buck should do a complete translation of the Bible . . . PS: rereally needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss ninny is like!: if we could go back in a time machine to AD 50 it would be funny if all the early Christians we met were in bliss ninny mode. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming as Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't even being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss ninny, that anybody really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss ninny is like! I stand with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share
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[FairfieldLife] Buck Lied, was I stand with U Buck
Judy called five people liars - it's a pattern. Judy should be taken to task for this offense - Barry, Steve, Richard, Buck and Share should insist on a retraction and an apology. So, we can see that half of the regular respondents on this list have been smeared by Judy for no good reason. It's time to put a stop to the MGs. Stand up for your rights! On 9/17/2013 2:27 PM, sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, you began by calling Buck a liar and saying he lied. Then that morphed into wrong and bliss ninny. That's what I mean by backpedaling and that's why I thought you had changed your mind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we living in the end times?
--- s3raphita s3raphita@... wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend* they believe). Searle is right about that. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: Did you mean to say that the advocates of AI are lying* about what they believe? If so, I thought your comment was interesting since *pretending* is the only way a computer program will ever pass The Turing Test (is it possible the programs are advocating for themselves); Eugene Goostman---to date, the computer program with the most successful attempt at The Turing Test (29%)---got as far as it did by *pretending* to be a 13 year-old Ukrainian male who spoke English as a second language (rumours that Share is related to Eugene are completely unfounded). What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness [better awareness] being that thing (or one of those things) it follows immediately that Darwinian Theory which postulates that consciousness is a late development in evolutionary history is clearly wrong. Q.E.D. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: If the use of adornment could be construed as an attempt to *pretend* to be something other than what we are, and if adornment is an important indicator used by archeologists to identify Homo sapiens (it takes human consciousness to understand we can influence the perception of others), when studying the fossils of hominids, is there still hope that computers will learn to lie better and eventually pass The Turing Test? Computers today are savants with the intelligence of a spider or a cockroach. 20 years in the future, they will have the intelligence and the intuition of a two year old. There are many facets of intelligence. Memory power and computing power are only one aspect of intelligence. LQ - This is logic quotient. These people are good in maths. logical steps for solutions. CQ - Corelation Quotient. The ability to corelate diverse factors and see how they fit. MQ - Memory quotient. Ability to recall information is a type of intelligence and plays a role in survival. TQ - Tribulation quotient. the ability to deal with stressfull and chaotic envionment. EQ - Emotional quotient. The ability to handle emotions and compartment them. Empathy the ability to put in other's shoes and see their POV is a type of intelligence. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryOC83PH1g
[FairfieldLife] RE: Endings
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The Gate of Grief (was: This is what the sky looked like in Morocco in 1960)
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
[FairfieldLife] RE: Buck Lied, was I stand with U Buck
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gate of Grief (was: This is what the sky looked like in Morocco in 1960)
--- Jason jedi_spock@.. wrote: Thanks Bob, I did watch that show on BBC. I also watched Spencer Welles, Journey of man on National Geographic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJDGzzrMyQ --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: Thanks Jason, I'll check out the Spencer Welles series; I also have a lot of time for Michael Wood, his Legacy series is excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNSO9xKVcv8 As is his Story of India: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DHhPvbaV68 more below A huge eruption of a super volcano in indonesia clouded out the sun and caused a drop in temperatures by about 10 degrees. It caused a massive drought in Africa and pushed surviving humans to coastlines in search of fish. Human population plunged down to a few hundred. We were on the brink of extinction. It was then the 'great coastal migration' began. At that time From the tip of south africa to india to australia was one unbroken coastline. The entire human population today decended from that population bottleneck. We were hunter-gatherers. This required foraging vast areas for food. That kind of foraging requires long-distance running. That kind of running heats up the body. To cool the body, we developed sweating. To sweat, our skins became softer and we lost a lot of hair. As someone comfortable with doubt (who believes in God more days than not) the theory that climate is responsible for the advent of consciousness in Homo sapiens---with their incredible dexterity with tools and facility for natural language---makes as much sense as anything else to me; to my mind this in no way precludes the possibility of a divine hand in our beginnings. What seems to have changed in the present is the velocity of change; IMO, what we become over the next 100 years could be as dramatic as what we became over the previous 10,000. The environment is the prime force that shapes evolution. There are of course other factors. It's a paradox that the more technologicaly advanced a civilisation becomes, the shorter it's lifespan. The hunter-gatherer lifestyle, (zero wave) lasted for 250,000 years. The agricultural civilisation, (first wave) lasted for 14,000 years. The industrial civilisation, (second wave) lasted for barely 300 years. Now, we are moving into what is called the post-industrial era. Lasers, genetics, internet, 3D printers, regenerative medicine, etc. My guess is that the third wave will last for a even shorter time. --- bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: Jason, This whole series (The Incredible Human Journey) is worth the time, but at around 38:00 min of this episode Dr. Roberts specifically discusses what you stated below. One of the things that struck me in my travels in this area was the number of dry riverbeds (there's an Arab myth that Bahrain was once the Garden of Eden, and we know from geology that much of the Arabian Gulf was fertile plain at one time; in a later episode she discusses when we first switched from hunting and gathering to cultivation in Mesopotamia---it was a woman's idea); I think I mentioned in another post to Emily that I was intrigued to learn in this series that when our likely ancestors made it out of Africa 70 thousand years ago (by way of The Gate of Grief)---with the help from the climate change you pointed out---the coast of The Yemen and Oman extended another 50km into the Arabian Sea and the area had the abundant fresh water they needed for their journey---possibly on their way to India. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwa6o-s1Yvs --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I wonder in what state of affairs Casablanca is now. Most of the Jewish community might have migrated to greener pastures?? At present, we are in a dry period, but it is expected that the Sahara will become green again in 15000 years. This is due to a 41,000 year cycle in which the tilt of the earth changes between 22ð and 24.5ð. Sahara alternates between phases of rainforests and desert in cycles. --- turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Very cool - don't see a lot of stars here due to all the urban light, but have seen that carpet before. Must've been pretty damned amazing to stand in the middle of the desert, with that above you. That's why I posted the photo. Most people these days have no idea. This photo is the closest I have found to conveying what it was like to stand in the middle of the Sahara on a moonless night. In that era, in which global pollution had not become an issue, and in which light pollution (I lived 60 miles from the nearest light- emitting city, Marrakech) had not even been imagined. Your term carpet is apt. I remember once taking a blanket with me out into the desert behind my house, away even from the
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Giving
Wow, thanks Judy, goose bumps all over with this one. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Giving Oh, sorry, forgot to use the editor to make the link clickable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=vksdBSVAM6g --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One of the commenters on the commercial at the Gawker site linked to a somewhat similar commercial from a Taiwanese bank: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=vksdBSVAM6g I'll take this one anytime. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This three-minute clip is an ad, for a Thai telecommunications company. That said, you'll want to watch it, because it contains better storytelling in those three minutes (not to mention a more uplifting message) than most of the full-length movies produced these days. http://gawker.com/this-three-minute-commercial-puts-full-length-hollywood-1309506149
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
This must be the only moderated group on Yahoo where a bully can call five of the groups top posters liars and get away with it. Go figure. On 9/18/2013 9:26 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Richard fulminated:* * * *(He's pissed off because I pointed out his trolling, lying ways to Michael a few days ago.) * * (snip)* Judy should stop calling people liars - it is not constructive and is offensive. She should apologize to Buck for breaking the FFL rules. *First of all, as you know, Richard, they're /guidelines/, not rules.* * * *Second, I always find it fascinating that some folks (Richard, among several others here) think it's perfectly OK to lie, but outrageously offensive to call a person who lies a liar. Seems to me that's backwards.*
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field
I done tolt yew I'll git mah medita-shun checked by Barry whenever I got over to whar them frawgs live. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field I just come back from the morning Dome meditation and Jeesus x-mas what anti-science anti-spiritual ranting from a couple quitters. Where to begin with such ignorance? I feel pity for you. I know you are earnest but, The ME. Om, so it's not your experience. So? The ME? Sit with it some more. Yes, meditate with an effective transcending meditation some more then you'd Know. Maybe now even get your meditation checked, tuned up, or as Brahmananda Saraswati Guru Dev advised, sit with a saint. Yours in FFL, a Friend In Kind Regard, -Buck “Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect” -paraphrased or loose interpretation, Matthew 18:20 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Excellent. If Buck takes it upon himself to speak for the Unified Field (not to mention Jesus), he should be able to handle a little feedback from the source. For the record, I completely agree. There are three words that describe the belief that bouncing on one's butt is all that is needed to change the world in a more positive direction. And no, they're not heaven on earth. They're ego and self importance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Bulletin from the Unified Field to Buck in the Dome. Dear Buck, As I, the Unified Field exist everywhere at all times, my effect is no greater in the Golden Domes than in anyplace else in the mutli-verse. Please stop invoking my name to intensify your fantasy that you affect anything in the Universe with your mantra mumbling. Were you to sit and watch the sun rise, it would have the same effect as asanas, pranayam and mantra practice. I exist everywhere all at once and I need no help from you to create any effect I desire. But since I am all desires and the lack of all desires, I have no need to affect anything. If you want to believe you are saving the world, be my guest, but don't think I am going to change human nature because you write hymns to me, or because you use a common mantra available anywhere in India. If you want to change human nature, pray to God, who is a part of me anyway, but the Deity has a different agenda. He thinks he can affect things too. Bit like you. In conclusion, mantra practice in groups will never create change of the kind you think it will, and I will thank you to keep my name out of your fantasies from now on. Signed, The Unified Field P.S. - There are only about 35 yogic flyers in Latin America, the rest in the photos are extras, non-meditators who got about 5 pesos each to pose for the photos, so don't expect any great shakes down there either.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Jason, from what is seen we can easily determine that human beings aren't capable of handling much wealth responsibly beyond a few million dollars. And that's still plenty incentive if you ask me. Billionairism is a disease. On 09/18/2013 06:33 AM, Jason wrote: Bhairitu, the basic strategy of any capitalistic-egalitarian system is to have a Tax-strategy that generates wealth, but at the same time prevents them from spending it. In other words, the strategy should be to force people to put their money in banks, in order to minimise their taxes. A tax system primarily based on consumption of resources is a much superior model, than a plain model that is based on just income. The more resources you consume, the more tax you pay. It prevents millionares from spulrging on yet another yacht, or yet another jet, or yet another Rolls Royce. If he pays 10 million for a mansion, he has to pay another 10 million as 'progressive consumption tax'. This will jack his expense to 20 million. He would decide to put that money in bank, rather that spulrge it on that mansion. --- Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The United Selfish of America is what we call it. There are dummies here who think they're going to win the lottery any day now and don't want to pay high taxes on that money. Those idiots make it difficult to tax the rich. I want to see the progressive taxes like we had during the Eisenhower era. We didn't have billionaires back then. And that tax was not meant to be a gold mine for the government. It was meant to discourage people accumulating more wealth than they need. Harvard did a study a number of years ago which was reported on 60 Minutes. They concluded there was no formula for getting wealth. It was just luck. We might call that karma. On 09/17/2013 10:13 AM, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Bhairitu: I just love to hear them say that someone like Bill Gates worked hard for his money : That's my pet peeve. Yes, Gates was at the right place at the right time, and he put in some effort and had some original ideas so he deserves success and a comfortable life, but $72 billion? Do me a favour. It is not just that you have to wonder quite how many yachts a rich man could buy before getting bored; it's more that $72 billion can buy a lot of influence - and I mean a lot. Such huge disparities of wealth are essentially undemocratic. --- noozguru@ wrote: Seraphita wrote one yesterday on the Forbes report of the richest Americans. I spotted it on the web site but it has never arrived here and I even checked the Yahoo Email site. You know me, I'll discuss the topic of the excessively rich at the drop of a hat. I was even going to comment on a similar article on CNET but didn't have time. Over their you get a bunch of Sillyconned Valley geeks who worship the wealthy tech gods and it is fun to fling some mud at them. I just love to hear them say that someone like Bill Gates worked hard for his money when his wealth like Zuckerberg's was accidental.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Buck Lied, was I stand with U Buck
Richard, you've made me LOL and feel good so many times so thank you. And I think I've gotten inured to the range of comments on FFL. Anyway, today seems to be all about motorbikes rather than apologies (-: From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Buck Lied, was I stand with U Buck Judy called five people liars - it's a pattern. Judy should be taken to task for this offense - Barry, Steve, Richard, Buck and Share should insist on a retraction and an apology. So, we can see that half of the regular respondents on this list have been smeared by Judy for no good reason. It's time to put a stop to the MGs. Stand up for your rights! On 9/17/2013 2:27 PM, sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, you began by calling Buck a liar and saying he lied. Then that morphed into wrong and bliss ninny. That's what I mean by backpedaling and that's why I thought you had changed your mind.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Endings
A trend which might also occur in the Netherlands now that you'll have Netflix is that people are not watching TV series like they used to. They are preferring to watch movies rather than invest in serials. It is kinda throwing the entertainment industry into a state of shock. I suspect the Netherlands has better broadband companies than the evil doers that the US has running them. The US broadband companies HATE Netflix. I canceled HBO after True Blood finished it's season. The Newsroom wasn't enough for me to keep paying $20 a month. And I only paid that amount for the final month of True Blood though due to a promo deal. My Comcast bill exploded to cover the final month. BTW, Comcast charges in advance for services and then they pro-rate after you cancel so the next bill is actually less because they have to refund. IOW, if you think about how many millions of customers they have you realize how much money they make in interest that way. Last week in the mail was an Astround flier. They've been in a nearby city for years and expanded to two others lately. The reason for the flier is they are coming here. Unfortunately probably not soon enough in my neighborhood to be a consideration when it boot Comcast on the 1st since they are encrypting Basic Cable. Currently I have U-Verse for broadband and landline and may just get their TV service. I'd love to boot ATT too. These companies are all monopolistic bandits. Breaking Bad has been great. It raised the bar for TV series. Copper didn't hold my interest enough to keep watching this season. At that, contrary to opinion on FFL, I only like to watch so much TV a week and so am a bit picky with that alloted time. I like 6 or 8 episode series too instead of the US 13 episode rut. BTW, definitely not a movie worth writing a review about but I found World War Z a hokey piece of shit. It was available for rent yesterday on BD so picked it up. I did get a kick out of the original report of zombies coming from India calling them rakshasas. On 09/18/2013 01:20 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As a fan of good television series, it's interesting for me to be watching four of them end (two for the season, two forever) at the same time. Sometimes in the harsh and pitiless world of TV, the creators of a series don't even *get* to do a good ending to their series. The classic example, of course, is Joss Whedon's Firefly, which was cut down in mid-first-season and which, if he hadn't been able to pull off the film Serenity to finish things up gracefully, would have ended very badly indeed. Leading the good endings race so far IMO is, of course, Breaking Bad. That series has two more episodes to go, and is building up to present the best ending of a long-running TV show in history. At the same time, the Aaron Sorkin series The Newsroom broadcast its last two-parter of the season last Sunday, and I thought they did a pretty good job with it. Especially because it's still an open question as to whether there will be a season 3. The reason is, for once, *not* network caprice, but creator caprice. Sorkin is the sole writer, and he simply may not choose to go forward with such a time commitment. I for one hope he does, but he managed an ending to season 2 that play double purpose, in that it could easily stand as the ending of the whole series if he chooses to bail. Over on BBC America, there is only one more episode of Copper to go for this season, and although the storytelling is more traditional and not as cutting edge as Breaking Bad, I think they're doing a pretty good job of tying things up and leaving us waiting for the next season. The acting, writing, and production have all been exemplary so far, and I see no reason why they can't continue to be. But at the end of the pack -- and a MAJOR disappointment -- comes Dexter. It's as if this series' creators are taking Dexter's dark passenger and trying to give it a bleach job. Bleeeaah. As one critic on IMDB put it, rather succinctly, if you check the stats, six of the *lowest* rated episodes of the entire series have been during this last season. Sad. They've pissed away all the interest we once had in the characters by (IMO) trying to come up with some namby-pamby ending that satisfies everyone but without exposing Dexter to the kind of Ultimate Humiliation and Disgrace that Walter White is going through. I suspect they're going to find a way to either kill him off or let him get away without any commupance for all his years as a serial killer, and that safe path is taking away pretty much all of my interest in the series. At this point, I'm just waiting for next Sunday so it'll be OVER, and I can stop watching it. And that's sorta the point of this rant. A good ending leaves you wanting more. A bad ending doesn't.
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RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Thanks, John, and testing, thought you might enjoy this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84lrgNs8-g From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit... Share, Click the box on the reply section. This will show more details of the reply contents. Then click the link icon (two rings). Paste your URL on the box that appears. Press send. The link will be clickable as you will see it highlighted in blue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Alex or anyone, this is my third and hopefully last Neo question: how can I make a link clickable? The old way isn't working any more. Thanks. From: j_alexander_stanley@... j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit... I remain absolutely, completely, totally delighted with the absence of posting limits. Thanks for asking!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field
You're sounding like a racist more and more every day. On 9/18/2013 10:08 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I done tolt yew I'll git mah medita-shun checked by Barry whenever I got over to whar them frawgs live. On 9/18/2013 10:08 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I done tolt yew I'll git mah medita-shun checked by Barry whenever I got over to whar them frawgs live. *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:09 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Message to Buck from the Unified Field *I just come back from the morning Dome meditation and Jeesus x-mas what anti-science anti-spiritual ranting from a couple quitters. Where to begin with such ignorance?* *I feel pity for you. I know you are earnest but,* *The ME. Om, so it's not your experience. So? The ME? Sit with it some more. Yes, meditate with an effective transcending meditation some more then you'd Know. Maybe now even get your meditation checked, tuned up, or as Brahmananda Saraswati Guru Dev advised, sit with a saint. * *Yours in FFL, a Friend In Kind Regard,* *-Buck * “*Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect” -paraphrased or loose interpretation, Matthew 18:20 * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Excellent. If Buck takes it upon himself to speak for the Unified Field (not to mention Jesus), he should be able to handle a little feedback from the source. For the record, I completely agree. There are three words that describe the belief that bouncing on one's butt is all that is needed to change the world in a more positive direction. And no, they're not heaven on earth. They're ego and self importance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Bulletin from the Unified Field to Buck in the Dome. Dear Buck, As I, the Unified Field exist everywhere at all times, my effect is no greater in the Golden Domes than in anyplace else in the mutli-verse. Please stop invoking my name to intensify your fantasy that you affect anything in the Universe with your mantra mumbling. Were you to sit and watch the sun rise, it would have the same effect as asanas, pranayam and mantra practice. I exist everywhere all at once and I need no help from you to create any effect I desire. But since I am all desires and the lack of all desires, I have no need to affect anything. If you want to believe you are saving the world, be my guest, but don't think I am going to change human nature because you write hymns to me, or because you use a common mantra available anywhere in India. If you want to change human nature, pray to God, who is a part of me anyway, but the Deity has a different agenda. He thinks he can affect things too. Bit like you. In conclusion, mantra practice in groups will never create change of the kind you think it will, and I will thank you to keep my name out of your fantasies from now on. Signed, The Unified Field P.S. - There are only about 35 yogic flyers in Latin America, the rest in the photos are extras, non-meditators who got about 5 pesos each to pose for the photos, so don't expect any great shakes down there either.
[FairfieldLife] Good Reason to cancel Verizon
A company president like this is why Hitler was able to come to power. http://rt.com/news/verizon-president-customer-centric-015/ Mr. Stratton wants you all to be good little sheeple and obey the government. And of course buy all the shit he sells too. Glad I left Veri$on last year.
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Surviving Whole Foods
On 09/18/2013 09:40 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: I concur with all this (except that I'm not much for alternative remedies--don't need them, I just try to eat right). Eating right might be considered an alternative remedy. How do you define eating right? And Whole Foods is known as Whole Paycheck in this neck of the woods. Sounds like an East Coast thang. :-D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hate to rain on your parade but US supermarkets have had organic sections for ages. And yup, sometimes the products are the same price as the regular products and even sometimes less, especially when it comes to produce. Lately I was looking at prices of lettuce. I like green leaf lettuce on sandwiches (so do restaurants). The price for a head in the regular section was $2 in the organic $2. However I buy most of my produce at the local farmer's market. We call Whole Foods whole wallet around here. They're a bit out of the way for me so haven't been to one in ages. BTW, the new health fad is gluten-free and those kind of products are showing up even in the mainstream supermarkets. And many here are now old farts and once you hit your sixties the old jalopy stops working so well. So it's not a bad idea to be particular about diet and trying some of the alternative remedies though many of us have been using them for years. Our bodies are just like cars. You can change the oil and keep up maintenance on it and it'll run just fine for miles and miles. Or just let it run down and fall apart. You can go shopping for a new one after you die. :-D On 09/18/2013 12:19 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Very funny article, one made more poignant by living in France and the Netherlands, where Bio (Organic) foods are found in almost every supermarket, and at prices not much higher than lesser produce. There are fewer craze foods, and there are FAR fewer crazies buying them. Here, you eat to live (and eat *well*); you don't live to eat. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-maclean/surviving-whole-foods_b_3895583.html Amidst the humor, the author makes some good points. For example, Ever notice that you don't meet poor people with special diet needs? Similarly, have you ever noticed that people whose spiritual paths are actually *working* for them don't spend most of their time obses- sing on their health and what they eat and the esoteric snake oil healings they *need* to stay healthy? What's wrong with TM that so many of its followers obsess on these things so consistently? Posted even though I know from experience that it'll probably take anywhere from two hours to two days to appear. I suspect Yahoo's server personnel are drinking too much kombuchka (Japanese for 'I gizzed in your tea'). :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good Reason to cancel Verizon
Hell Yeah! Getcha an Obamaphone! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Good Reason to cancel Verizon A company president like this is why Hitler was able to come to power. http://rt.com/news/verizon-president-customer-centric-015/ Mr. Stratton wants you all to be good little sheeple and obey the government. And of course buy all the shit he sells too. Glad I left Veri$on last year.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Surviving Whole Foods
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are we living in the end times?
The point is that, although they are just memory machines parroting what is told to them, even that requires some rudimentary intelligence. But once we develop computers whose memory banks resemble human brain neural network, they may start thinking for themselves. Ultimately in the end, whatever nature can create, man can create. Conversely, think of all the people on this planet who just parrot what is told them, without thinking or having any understanding about it. Did your God programme them badly? --- jr_esq jr_esq@.. wrote: Jason, AI in computers are only mimicking the real consciousness of human beings. Computer intelligence will only be as good as the human programmers who created it. For example, it is a fact that an IBM computer was able to beat Kasparov in a chess championship setting. But it was programmed to calculate possibilities in chess moves by brute force. The real consciousness comes from the humans who programmed the computer. IMO, this will hold true for any other developments in AI in the future. In the end, computers will only be silicon chips (even quantum chips) pretending to have human consciousness. --- s3raphita s3raphita@... wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend* they believe). Searle is right about that. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: Did you mean to say that the advocates of AI are lying* about what they believe? If so, I thought your comment was interesting since *pretending* is the only way a computer program will ever pass The Turing Test (is it possible the programs are advocating for themselves); Eugene Goostman---to date, the computer program with the most successful attempt at The Turing Test (29%)---got as far as it did by *pretending* to be a 13 year-old Ukrainian male who spoke English as a second language (rumours that Share is related to Eugene are completely unfounded). What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness [better awareness] being that thing (or one of those things) it follows immediately that Darwinian Theory which postulates that consciousness is a late development in evolutionary history is clearly wrong. Q.E.D. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: If the use of adornment could be construed as an attempt to *pretend* to be something other than what we are, and if adornment is an important indicator used by archeologists to identify Homo sapiens (it takes human consciousness to understand we can influence the perception of others), when studying the fossils of hominids, is there still hope that computers will learn to lie better and eventually pass The Turing Test? --- Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Computers today are savants with the intelligence of a spider or a cockroach. 20 years in the future, they will have the intelligence and the intuition of a two year old. There are many facets of intelligence. Memory power and computing power are only one aspect of intelligence. LQ - This is logic quotient. These people are good in maths. logical steps for solutions. CQ - Corelation Quotient. The ability to corelate diverse factors and see how they fit. MQ - Memory quotient. Ability to recall information is a type of intelligence and plays a role in survival. TQ - Tribulation quotient. the ability to deal with stressfull and chaotic envionment. EQ - Emotional quotient. The ability to handle emotions and compartment them. Empathy the ability to put in other's shoes and see their POV is a type of intelligence. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryOC83PH1g
Re: [FairfieldLife] Surviving Whole Foods
You mean like eating what is best for your dosha or metabolic type? ;-) On 09/18/2013 12:04 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Um, being particular about diet? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 09/18/2013 09:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I concur with all this (except that I'm not much for alternative remedies--don't need them, I just try to eat right). Eating right might be considered an alternative remedy. How do you define eating right? And Whole Foods is known as Whole Paycheck in this neck of the woods. Sounds like an East Coast thang. :-D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hate to rain on your parade but US supermarkets have had organic sections for ages. And yup, sometimes the products are the same price as the regular products and even sometimes less, especially when it comes to produce. Lately I was looking at prices of lettuce. I like green leaf lettuce on sandwiches (so do restaurants). The price for a head in the regular section was $2 in the organic $2. However I buy most of my produce at the local farmer's market. We call Whole Foods whole wallet around here. They're a bit out of the way for me so haven't been to one in ages. BTW, the new health fad is gluten-free and those kind of products are showing up even in the mainstream supermarkets. And many here are now old farts and once you hit your sixties the old jalopy stops working so well. So it's not a bad idea to be particular about diet and trying some of the alternative remedies though many of us have been using them for years. Our bodies are just like cars. You can change the oil and keep up maintenance on it and it'll run just fine for miles and miles. Or just let it run down and fall apart. You can go shopping for a new one after you die. :-D On 09/18/2013 12:19 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Very funny article, one made more poignant by living in France and the Netherlands, where Bio (Organic) foods are found in almost every supermarket, and at prices not much higher than lesser produce. There are fewer craze foods, and there are FAR fewer crazies buying them. Here, you eat to live (and eat *well*); you don't live to eat. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-maclean/surviving-whole-foods_b_3895583.html Amidst the humor, the author makes some good points. For example, Ever notice that you don't meet poor people with special diet needs? Similarly, have you ever noticed that people whose spiritual paths are actually *working* for them don't spend most of their time obses- sing on their health and what they eat and the esoteric snake oil healings they *need* to stay healthy? What's wrong with TM that so many of its followers obsess on these things so consistently? Posted even though I know from experience that it'll probably take anywhere from two hours to two days to appear. I suspect Yahoo's server personnel are drinking too much kombuchka (Japanese for 'I gizzed in your tea'). :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times?
Computers compute. They are little like a gazillion calculators. AI experts have concluded that the human mind doesn't work that way. It learns patterns instead of calculating. You can emulate that with a computer though. Our minds seem complicated but in really what drives us is trying to stay in a comfort zone. The simplest creatures also work this way. On 09/18/2013 12:00 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason, AI in computers are only mimicking the real consciousness of human beings. Computer intelligence will only be as good as the human programmers who created it. For example, it is a fact that an IBM computer was able to beat Kasparov in a chess championship setting. But it was programmed to calculate possibilities in chess moves by brute force. The real consciousness comes from the humans who programmed the computer. IMO, this will hold true for any other developments in AI in the future. In the end, computers will only be silicon chips (even quantum chips) pretending to have human consciousness. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote: --- s3raphita s3raphita@... wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend* they believe). Searle is right about that. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: Did you mean to say that the advocates of AI are lying* about what they believe? If so, I thought your comment was interesting since *pretending* is the only way a computer program will ever pass The Turing Test (is it possible the programs are advocating for themselves); Eugene Goostman---to date, the computer program with the most successful attempt at The Turing Test (29%)---got as far as it did by *pretending* to be a 13 year-old Ukrainian male who spoke English as a second language (rumours that Share is related to Eugene are completely unfounded). What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness [better awareness] being that thing (or one of those things) it follows immediately that Darwinian Theory which postulates that consciousness is a late development in evolutionary history is clearly wrong. Q.E.D. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: If the use of adornment could be construed as an attempt to *pretend* to be something other than what we are, and if adornment is an important indicator used by archeologists to identify Homo sapiens (it takes human consciousness to understand we can influence the perception of others), when studying the fossils of hominids, is there still hope that computers will learn to lie better and eventually pass The Turing Test? Computers today are savants with the intelligence of a spider or a cockroach. 20 years in the future, they will have the intelligence and the intuition of a two year old. There are many facets of intelligence. Memory power and computing power are only one aspect of intelligence. LQ - This is logic quotient. These people are good in maths. logical steps for solutions. CQ - Corelation Quotient. The ability to corelate diverse factors and see how they fit. MQ - Memory quotient. Ability to recall information is a type of intelligence and plays a role in survival. TQ - Tribulation quotient. the ability to deal with stressfull and chaotic envionment. EQ - Emotional quotient. The ability to handle emotions and compartment them. Empathy the ability to put in other's shoes and see their POV is a type of intelligence. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryOC83PH1g
[FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times?
[FairfieldLife] Siddhi, sort of??
[FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times?
Yeah, just see what happens if the CPU overheats. :-D On 09/18/2013 02:29 PM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, are you saying that computers attempt to stay in their comfort zone? If yes, what is that for a computer? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times? Computers compute. They are little like a gazillion calculators. AI experts have concluded that the human mind doesn't work that way. It learns patterns instead of calculating. You can emulate that with a computer though. Our minds seem complicated but in really what drives us is trying to stay in a comfort zone. The simplest creatures also work this way. On 09/18/2013 12:00 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason, AI in computers are only mimicking the real consciousness of human beings. Computer intelligence will only be as good as the human programmers who created it. For example, it is a fact that an IBM computer was able to beat Kasparov in a chess championship setting. But it was programmed to calculate possibilities in chess moves by brute force. The real consciousness comes from the humans who programmed the computer. IMO, this will hold true for any other developments in AI in the future. In the end, computers will only be silicon chips (even quantum chips) pretending to have human consciousness. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... mailto:jedi_spock@... wrote: --- s3raphita s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend* they believe). Searle is right about that. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote: Did you mean to say that the advocates of AI are lying* about what they believe? If so, I thought your comment was interesting since *pretending* is the only way a computer program will ever pass The Turing Test (is it possible the programs are advocating for themselves); Eugene Goostman---to date, the computer program with the most successful attempt at The Turing Test (29%)---got as far as it did by *pretending* to be a 13 year-old Ukrainian male who spoke English as a second language (rumours that Share is related to Eugene are completely unfounded). What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness [better awareness] being that thing (or one of those things) it follows immediately that Darwinian Theory which postulates that consciousness is a late development in evolutionary history is clearly wrong. Q.E.D. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote: If the use of adornment could be construed as an attempt to *pretend* to be something other than what we are, and if adornment is an important indicator used by archeologists to identify Homo sapiens (it takes human consciousness to understand we can influence the perception of others), when studying the fossils of hominids, is there still hope that computers will learn to lie better and eventually pass The Turing Test? Computers today are savants with the intelligence of a spider or a cockroach. 20 years in the future, they will have the intelligence and the intuition of a two year old. There are many facets of intelligence. Memory power and computing power are only one aspect of intelligence. LQ - This is logic quotient. These people are good in maths. logical steps for solutions. CQ - Corelation Quotient. The ability to corelate diverse factors and see how they fit. MQ - Memory quotient. Ability to recall information is a type of intelligence and plays a role in survival. TQ - Tribulation quotient. the ability to deal with stressfull and chaotic envionment. EQ - Emotional quotient. The ability to handle emotions and compartment them. Empathy the ability to put in other's shoes and see their POV is a type of intelligence. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... mailto:bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryOC83PH1g
[FairfieldLife] RE: Turq driving to a hot date in Paris
[FairfieldLife] RE: Turq driving to a hot date in Paris
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
[FairfieldLife] RE: Turq driving to a hot date in Paris
[FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times?
noozguru, are you saying that computers attempt to stay in their comfort zone? If yes, what is that for a computer? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times? Computers compute. They are little like a gazillion calculators. AI experts have concluded that the human mind doesn't work that way. It learns patterns instead of calculating. You can emulate that with a computer though. Our minds seem complicated but in really what drives us is trying to stay in a comfort zone. The simplest creatures also work this way. On 09/18/2013 12:00 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason, AI in computers are only mimicking the real consciousness of human beings. Computer intelligence will only be as good as the human programmers who created it. For example, it is a fact that an IBM computer was able to beat Kasparov in a chess championship setting. But it was programmed to calculate possibilities in chess moves by brute force. The real consciousness comes from the humans who programmed the computer. IMO, this will hold true for any other developments in AI in the future. In the end, computers will only be silicon chips (even quantum chips) pretending to have human consciousness. --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote: --- s3raphita s3raphita@... wrote: The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being to show that consciousness can't be reduced to computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend* they believe). Searle is right about that. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: Did you mean to say that the advocates of AI are lying* about what they believe? If so, I thought your comment was interesting since *pretending* is the only way a computer program will ever pass The Turing Test (is it possible the programs are advocating for themselves); Eugene Goostman---to date, the computer program with the most successful attempt at The Turing Test (29%)---got as far as it did by *pretending* to be a 13 year-old Ukrainian male who spoke English as a second language (rumours that Share is related to Eugene are completely unfounded). What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential than what is being explained. That game can't go on for ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and consciousness [better awareness] being that thing (or one of those things) it follows immediately that Darwinian Theory which postulates that consciousness is a late development in evolutionary history is clearly wrong. Q.E.D. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: If the use of adornment could be construed as an attempt to *pretend* to be something other than what we are, and if adornment is an important indicator used by archeologists to identify Homo sapiens (it takes human consciousness to understand we can influence the perception of others), when studying the fossils of hominids, is there still hope that computers will learn to lie better and eventually pass The Turing Test? Computers today are savants with the intelligence of a spider or a cockroach. 20 years in the future, they will have the intelligence and the intuition of a two year old. There are many facets of intelligence. Memory power and computing power are only one aspect of intelligence. LQ - This is logic quotient. These people are good in maths. logical steps for solutions. CQ - Corelation Quotient. The ability to corelate diverse factors and see how they fit. MQ - Memory quotient. Ability to recall information is a type of intelligence and plays a role in survival. TQ - Tribulation quotient. the ability to deal with stressfull and chaotic envionment. EQ - Emotional quotient. The ability to handle emotions and compartment them. Empathy the ability to put in other's shoes and see their POV is a type of intelligence. --- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryOC83PH1g
[FairfieldLife] RE: Spiritual Practice
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 19-Sep-13 00:15:04 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/14/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 444 messages as of (UTC) 09/19/13 00:03:41 50 authfriend 48 Share Long 31 s3raphita 24 Michael Jackson 22 dhamiltony2k5 22 awoelflebater 22 Emily Reyn 21 punditster 20 jr_esq 19 Bhairitu 16 turquoiseb 14 bobpriced 13 Jason 12 Richard J. Williams 11 doctordumbass 11 cardemaister 10 sharelong60 9 j_alexander_stanley 8 obbajeeba 7 Steve Sundur 7 Mike Dixon 6 emilymae.reyn 6 anartaxius 5 LEnglish5 3 wleed3 3 merudanda 3 iranitea 3 emptybill 3 Ann Woelfle Bater 2 mjackson74 2 Duveyoung 2 Dick Mays 1 steve.sundur 1 srijau 1 richard 1 rajawilliamsmith 1 punditster 1 nablusoss1008 1 leeleffler 1 feste37 1 Rick Archer Posters: 41 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Mitchell Kapor
Mitchell Kapor, Founder of Lotus Software on TM Tricycle: It seems that the material you’ve been involved with has addressed internal and external freedom and an entrenched wariness of authoritarian rule. Is this perspective influenced or affirmed by your experience with the Maharishi? [His full name is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.] Kapor: My dislike for authoritarian structures goes back as far as I can remember in my childhood. If I could remember past lives, I’m sure my memories would extend there too. But my experiences in Transcendental Meditation ultimately really deepened my commitment to anti-authoritarianism. Tricycle: How did you get involved in TM? Kapor: Well, my experience was typical for my generation. I had gotten to college in the 60′s and started experimenting with marijuana and psychedelics, fairly heavily. I had some distressing experiences with LSD. Bad trips. So I stopped doing drugs and then started getting acid flashbacks. I decided to give meditation a serious try to see if that could have some calming effect. I got hooked in to TM and eventually made the decision to go through advanced training to become an initiator, an instructor. Tricycle: How long did you stay involved with TM? Kapor: I was involved for seven years. It all ultimately came to a head in 1976. The movement went into a new phase and Maharishi started talking about siddhis, powers, and techniques for doing levitation and other things. This created so much cognitive dissonance in me that I didn’t know what to do. I had to find out if it was real or not, and I wanted to believe that it was real, but something in me said that it couldn’t possibly be real. People weren’t really going to levitate. So I went to Switzerland for the sixth-month course on powers. I went and I fell apart. They were using us as experimental subjects. There was fasting involved and various austerities that come out of Hindu traditions, enemas and various bizarre food combining rituals. A lot of madness got released. After five months of this I said whatever problems I might or might not have, TM is not making them better, it is making them worse and I decided to leave. This was like leaving everything, because I had severed all of my other ties and relations: no job, no career, no marriage and no prospects. I got up in the middle of the night and walked to the train station. I felt like I was crossing from slavery into freedom, from one intolerable situation into the great unknown. By the way, no one really levitates. I fully satisfied myself as to that. http://www.kapor.com/writing/tricycle-interview/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wondering what obbajeeba is doing tonight?
Not what you are thinking. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Thu 19-Sep-13 00:15:04 UTC
Testing one two. Testing two one. Testing wtf --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/14/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 444 messages as of (UTC) 09/19/13 00:03:41 50 authfriend 48 Share Long 31 s3raphita 24 Michael Jackson 22 dhamiltony2k5 22 awoelflebater 22 Emily Reyn 21 punditster 20 jr_esq 19 Bhairitu 16 turquoiseb 14 bobpriced 13 Jason 12 Richard J. Williams 11 doctordumbass 11 cardemaister 10 sharelong60 9 j_alexander_stanley 8 obbajeeba 7 Steve Sundur 7 Mike Dixon 6 emilymae.reyn 6 anartaxius 5 LEnglish5 3 wleed3 3 merudanda 3 iranitea 3 emptybill 3 Ann Woelfle Bater 2 mjackson74 2 Duveyoung 2 Dick Mays 1 steve.sundur 1 srijau 1 richard 1 rajawilliamsmith 1 punditster 1 nablusoss1008 1 leeleffler 1 feste37 1 Rick Archer Posters: 41 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: Good Reason to cancel Verizon
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Buck Lied, was I stand with U Buck
So, it's all about Richard. Go figure: I, Willytex, am truly sorry for ever lying to the discussion group. I, Willytex, apologize to MJ for calling him an idiot. On 9/18/2013 10:17 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Richard, if you apologize to MJ then I am sure Judy might consider apologizing to Buck. When Barry apologizes to everybody then Judy might consider apologizing to Share. When Share apologizes to Robin then Judy might consider apologizing to Steve. An apology to Barry, however, might extract a higher price. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy called five people liars - it's a pattern. Judy should be taken to task for this offense - Barry, Steve, Richard, Buck and Share should insist on a retraction and an apology. So, we can see that half of the regular respondents on this list have been smeared by Judy for no good reason. It's time to put a stop to the MGs. Stand up for your rights! Dear Richard, if you apologize to MJ then I am sure Judy might consider apologizing to Buck. When Barry apologizes to everybody then Judy might consider apologizing to Share. When Share apologizes to Robin then Judy might consider apologizing to Steve. An apology to Barry, however, might extract a higher price. On 9/17/2013 2:27 PM, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, you began by calling Buck a liar and saying he lied. Then that morphed into wrong and bliss ninny. That's what I mean by backpedaling and that's why I thought you had changed your mind.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Mitchell Kapor
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giving
I enjoyed this very much. But little inconsistencies bug me, such as the handling and changing of money at about 21 seconds. Perhaps it's just me, but somethings not making sense there. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giving This three-minute clip is an ad, for a Thai telecommunications company. That said, you'll want to watch it, because it contains better storytelling in those three minutes (not to mention a more uplifting message) than most of the full-length movies produced these days. http://gawker.com/this-three-minute-commercial-puts-full-length-hollywood-1309506149
[FairfieldLife] RE: Wondering what obbajeeba is doing tonight?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mitchell Kapor
[FairfieldLife] Meanwhile, in a parallel universe...
I'm only going to paste in one of the marvelous photos from this link, and refer you to the original for the rest. I really love Messy Nessy Chic. I want to have her child. She blogs from Paris, although I've never met her, and she just has the most exquisite taste in weird shit I've ever encountered, anywhere. Her talent in life -- clearly her dharma, if you think in those terms -- is reporting on weird shit she finds around her on the streets of Paris, in other locales she travels to, or out there somewhere in the wilds of cyberspace. She finds just the greatest stuff, stuff that is almost always of interest to me, and I can't say that about any other blogger. This is her latest find: http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/09/18/meanwhile-in-a-parallel-univers\ e/ http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/09/18/meanwhile-in-a-parallel-univer\ se/
