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Thank you so much to everyone who has replied regarding handling Baby. The viewpoints are so useful to me and will be to my cousin as well. Thank you, - Lorraine "Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sounds like it might be time for the poem someone sent when we lost Tigg Lend Me a Kitten I will lend you a kitten for awhile, God said. For you to love while he lives, and mourn when he's dead. Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three. But will you, 'till I call him back, take care of him for me? He'll bring his charms to gladden you, and should his stay be brief You'll always have his memories as solace for your grief. I cannot promise he will stay, since all from earth return. But there are lessons taught below I want this kitten to learn. I've looked the whole world over, in search of teachers true. And from the folks that crowd life's land, I have chosen you. Now will you give him all your love, not think the labor vain? Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again? I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done'. For all the joys this kitten brings, the risk of grief we'll run. We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may. And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay. But should you call him back, much sooner than we planned, We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand. If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve, Then in memory of him whom we loved, please help us while we grieve. When our cherished kitten departs this world of strife, Please send yet another needing soul for us to love all his life. Author Unknown -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kresch...@mchsi.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you all. . . How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes. I saw a Tux among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the vet to test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side. Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might know, Ken ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We each have different needs after a pet pashe's before bringing another baby home. I adopted Sunny 5 days after Mozart died. Sunny had been my foster for 2 months. On Oct 17, 2017 1:29 PM, wrote: yOU ARE RIGHT. iF YOU WAIT FOR GRIEVING TO PASS, A KITTEN MAY DIE. Right now is the time to get another one to help in the grieving process. kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: > How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes. I saw a Tux among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the vet to test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side. > > Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might know, > Ken > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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yOU ARE RIGHT. iF YOU WAIT FOR GRIEVING TO PASS, A KITTEN MAY DIE. Right now is the time to get another one to help in the grieving process. kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: > How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words > about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some > say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one > who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting > for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter > arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In > total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes. I saw a Tux > among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the vet to > test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter > pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side. > > Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might know, > Ken > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes. I saw a Tux among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the vet to test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side. Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might know, Ken ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Figaro has appointment Mon afternoon now. All the Z's protocol, retesting & neutering will get addressed SOON =~D ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Find some more to file their garage. It seemed that when one goes, another shows up on my doorstep or at the shelter. I usually call and ask them for special needs because they do not get adopted, just sit in the cages, waiting. Even though they may not last long I can give them some love and care for the time they have. Marsha wrote: > I would like to sincerely thank you all who sent condolences on my loss > of Brock, and showed so much compassion and support. So many kind > words! Brock was my last FeLV+ cat, and now his (and Harley's and > Milkdud's) garage domain feels so empty and quiet. The toddler slide I > bought for Brock sits unassembled. I had to buy mouse traps for the > first time since 2009 (caught 2 since Brock died). "The Sound of > Silence" performed by Disturbed has become their memorial song. The > main house, however, is not so silent. 11 cats remain (1 for not much > longer), and a few of them get pretty chatty. LOUDLY chatty. :-P > > All those who care for special needs cats are the bravest of the brave, > and anybody (ESPECIALLY a therapist or counselor) who gets judgey about > it - well those people can just go stuff it. > > Marsha > > (who looked for compassion and support in the wrong place, but found it > here, with people who understand. Again, thank you so much.) > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thank you
I would like to sincerely thank you all who sent condolences on my loss of Brock, and showed so much compassion and support. So many kind words! Brock was my last FeLV+ cat, and now his (and Harley's and Milkdud's) garage domain feels so empty and quiet. The toddler slide I bought for Brock sits unassembled. I had to buy mouse traps for the first time since 2009 (caught 2 since Brock died). "The Sound of Silence" performed by Disturbed has become their memorial song. The main house, however, is not so silent. 11 cats remain (1 for not much longer), and a few of them get pretty chatty. LOUDLY chatty. :-P All those who care for special needs cats are the bravest of the brave, and anybody (ESPECIALLY a therapist or counselor) who gets judgey about it - well those people can just go stuff it. Marsha (who looked for compassion and support in the wrong place, but found it here, with people who understand. Again, thank you so much.) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you to everyone for the kind words about my Tigger! Amani - you are so correct that "if love could have saved him, he would have lived forever". . . and to everyone who has sent their sympathies, I do feel better when you say that I did everything possible for him. Ardy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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So sorry for the loss of Patches. I have the same thoughts about Amber as far as her dying from starvation. She was truly just a few days away from death I have no doubt. At least she has a chance and won't die out in the woods. Jannes From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 6:34:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Yikes. Perhaps this vet should recuse himself from *treating* cats? A vet is actually supposed to know stuff even though he isn't a "_ person." I'm glad you have other choices. When we took our Patches (the reason I am on this list, though he died a few years ago) in for testing (he had just showed up on our doorstep one summer night, demanding our attention, and terribly, terribly matted) our vet told us he was FeLV+, and in the next breath said, "These are your options..." Euthanasia was one of them, of course, but we were happy that she wasn't pushing it, and the other options included seeing how things went and fairly conservative treatment, and since we love animals but are not made of money, we eagerly did that. Things didn't go well, unfortunately, and he became symptomatic -- lymph nodes swollen, stopped eating -- and we let him go. He was such a sweet guy, it still makes me sad to think we didn't have time to really get to know him, and he never got a chance to leave the room we were caring for him in, which he really wanted to do. But we are happy that he came to us because if he had stayed on the street he would have had a much worse end. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yikes. Perhaps this vet should recuse himself from *treating* cats? A vet is actually supposed to know stuff even though he isn't a "_ person." I'm glad you have other choices. When we took our Patches (the reason I am on this list, though he died a few years ago) in for testing (he had just showed up on our doorstep one summer night, demanding our attention, and terribly, terribly matted) our vet told us he was FeLV+, and in the next breath said, "These are your options..." Euthanasia was one of them, of course, but we were happy that she wasn't pushing it, and the other options included seeing how things went and fairly conservative treatment, and since we love animals but are not made of money, we eagerly did that. Things didn't go well, unfortunately, and he became symptomatic -- lymph nodes swollen, stopped eating -- and we let him go. He was such a sweet guy, it still makes me sad to think we didn't have time to really get to know him, and he never got a chance to leave the room we were caring for him in, which he really wanted to do. But we are happy that he came to us because if he had stayed on the street he would have had a much worse end. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's a good point about vets - some vets are not into cats so don't know much about them aNd dont keep up. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Jannes Taylor wrote: > Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA > test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me > he > was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other > vets > who are in the same office. Unreal!! > I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly > check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most > of > during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered > about > exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. > However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the > impression I > got. > I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when > I > take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his > office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! > Jannes > > > > > ____ > From: TANYA NOE > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:24:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > > I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, > and > for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most > recent > research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to > date > and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. > When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before > we > got her but the clinic did a "batch test" where they took blood from all 4 > kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the > mixture). > I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's > FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not > find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and > we > retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets > there > were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be > destroyed > so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the > disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor > kitty. > > Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. > We > count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to > keep > Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to > everyone on here and getting their advice first too. > Good luck with what ever you do. > Tanya > > --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > >> From: Diane Rosenfeldt >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM >> Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating >> euthanization is a warning sign not to let >> him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up >> to date on the >> latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get >> to maintain >> Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to >> different vets and >> see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of >> some vets who >> treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start >> because they will have >> encountered it before. >> >> Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to >> vaccinate the >> others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. >> ;-) >> >> Diane R. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] >> On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice >> >> I want to thank everyone who responded about my post >> regarding Amber, my >> FeLV positive cat. >> I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the >> health of my other >> cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan >> to be cautious but >> do feel less stressed about it. >> I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is >> nothing like being >> able to get advice from folks who have experienced this >> situation. >> The vet leaned toward
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA test was. He had to go "read up" about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he was not a "cat person." He was the new kid on the block with the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!! I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression I got. I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! Jannes From: TANYA NOE To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:24:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, and for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most recent research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to date and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before we got her but the clinic did a "batch test" where they took blood from all 4 kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the mixture). I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and we retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets there were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be destroyed so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor kitty. Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. We count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to keep Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to everyone on here and getting their advice first too. Good luck with what ever you do. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > From: Diane Rosenfeldt > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM > Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating > euthanization is a warning sign not to let > him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up > to date on the > latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get > to maintain > Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to > different vets and > see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of > some vets who > treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start > because they will have > encountered it before. > > Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to > vaccinate the > others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. > ;-) > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > > I want to thank everyone who responded about my post > regarding Amber, my > FeLV positive cat. > I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the > health of my other > cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan > to be cautious but > do feel less stressed about it. > I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is > nothing like being > able to get advice from folks who have experienced this > situation. > The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her > test came back > positive. > I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy > cat. I want to give > her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come > back negative. > > Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her > from starving to death. > She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting > every chance I get! > She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how > she sits at the > top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it > is, I guess. At > least for now... > I would love to hear from more folks regarding t
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I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, and for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most recent research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to date and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before we got her but the clinic did a "batch test" where they took blood from all 4 kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the mixture). I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and we retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets there were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be destroyed so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor kitty. Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. We count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to keep Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to everyone on here and getting their advice first too. Good luck with what ever you do. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > From: Diane Rosenfeldt > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM > Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating > euthanization is a warning sign not to let > him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up > to date on the > latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get > to maintain > Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to > different vets and > see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of > some vets who > treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start > because they will have > encountered it before. > > Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to > vaccinate the > others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. > ;-) > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice > > I want to thank everyone who responded about my post > regarding Amber, my > FeLV positive cat. > I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the > health of my other > cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan > to be cautious but > do feel less stressed about it. > I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is > nothing like being > able to get advice from folks who have experienced this > situation. > The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her > test came back > positive. > I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy > cat. I want to give > her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come > back negative. > > Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her > from starving to death. > She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting > every chance I get! > She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how > she sits at the > top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it > is, I guess. At > least for now... > I would love to hear from more folks regarding this > subject. > Thanks you all and God Bless!! > Jannes > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating euthanization is a warning sign not to let him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up to date on the latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get to maintain Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to different vets and see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of some vets who treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start because they will have encountered it before. Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to vaccinate the others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. ;-) Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Most of you have heard Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP's story. She came to me as a feral/throw-away. I liked her and was gong to bring her to the farm. I took her to be spayed and she tested positive. My vets' put all the options on the table and I took death off to the relief of everyone. With their care and the care of a couple of holistic vets in Louisville, she lived a very healthy and happy life for almost 3 years.she had EVERYTHING And gave me everything. On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Natalie wrote: Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute to exposing another cat to it I have heard that from people again and again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about having to kill any cat that tests positive! I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a vet suggests as being gospel truth! This cat may be healthy forever, or it may not. There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy forever either, are there? Do the best you can under the circumstances! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you, Natalie. I am so hoping her next test will be negative, but I will do the best I can regadless. Jannes From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:39:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute to exposing another cat to it I have heard that from people again and again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about having to kill any cat that tests positive! I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a vet suggests as being gospel truth! This cat may be healthy forever, or it may not. There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy forever either, are there? Do the best you can under the circumstances! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute to exposing another cat to it I have heard that from people again and again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about having to kill any cat that tests positive! I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a vet suggests as being gospel truth! This cat may be healthy forever, or it may not. There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy forever either, are there? Do the best you can under the circumstances! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for sharing Murphy's journey-we learned somuch from all of you here!
"Our lives are much enriched with learning how precious every day is." Alice, you and Glenn are special and wonderful people! Wish there were more like you in the world. Wishing you every joy, peace and happiness... ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Alice Flowers" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:14 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you for sharing Murphy's journey-we learned somuch from all of you here! This has been a long journey and we have so much to thank all of you for. First of all, most of the people in our day to day lives haven't got a clue what we are going through. We had Rosie to the vet today for her check up-she's been sneezing a bit the last few days. She got her CBC drawn (results tomorrow) and she checked out perfect, but a little PennG and cypro to see if we can nip the sneezing-so far tonight she has not sneezed. I'll add the Lysine for good measure. Murphy did sneeze right in her face a few times recently. She will barely touch wet food the last week since Murphy hasn't been eating along side of her. Last night about 1 am she was wailing-carrying her toy around the house. Glenn got up and spent some time with her in the living room so I could get to sleep, I had to work today. Our vet was so kind-Dr Krysta at the Sacramento Cat Hospital and she said they have learned so much with Murphy and treating FeLV with open eyes and minds. Thanks to this board, we discovered the Imulan LTCI-they ordered it for us over a year ago. I believe it did give us more time with Murphy. Thanks to Dawn and the suggestion to try Rutin for the fluid in his lungs-the vet was amazed at how great his lungs sounded after a short time with the Rutin-she said they used it for another condition but had never considered using it for FeLV cats and the fluid in their chests with the Lymphoma. When Rosie came home from the vet today, she searched the entire house for Murphy-for the first time in her life, she is solo. I'm not sure what to do, but time will help. I am so grateful for all of your support the last year or so. Our lives are much enriched with learning how precious every day is. Gratefully, Alice, Glenn and Rosie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Alice, I too live in Sacramento & you and I lots in common. Gray Cat goes to Akaal Pet Hospital in Carmichael. We have been fighting this for 2+ years. I call Gray my $30,000.00 cat, but I wouldn't trade one penny for the joy he & his two brothers have brought into our lives! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Alice Flowers wrote: > This has been a long journey and we have so much to thank all of you for. > First > of all, most of the people in our day to day lives haven't got a clue what we > are going through. We had Rosie to the vet today for her check up-she's been > sneezing a bit the last few days. She got her CBC drawn (results tomorrow) > and > she checked out perfect, but a little PennG and cypro to see if we can nip > the > sneezing-so far tonight she has not sneezed. I'll add the Lysine for good > measure. Murphy did sneeze right in her face a few times recently. She will > barely touch wet food the last week since Murphy hasn't been eating along > side > of her. Last night about 1 am she was wailing-carrying her toy around the > house. > Glenn got up and spent some time with her in the living room so I could get > to > sleep, I had to work today. Our vet was so kind-Dr Krysta at the Sacramento > Cat > Hospital and she said they have learned so much with Murphy and treating FeLV > with open eyes and minds. Thanks to this board, we discovered the Imulan > LTCI-they ordered it for us over a year ago. I believe it did give us more > time > with Murphy. Thanks to Dawn and the suggestion to try Rutin for the fluid in > his > lungs-the vet was amazed at how great his lungs sounded after a short time > with > the Rutin-she said they used it for another condition but had never > considered > using it for FeLV cats and the fluid in their chests with the Lymphoma. When > Rosie came home from the vet today, she searched the entire house for > Murphy-for > the first time in her life, she is solo. I'm not sure what to do, but time > will > help. I am so grateful for all of your support the last year or so. Our lives > are much enriched with learning how precious every day is. Gratefully, Alice, > Glenn and Rosie > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thank you for sharing Murphy's journey-we learned so much from all of you here!
This has been a long journey and we have so much to thank all of you for. First of all, most of the people in our day to day lives haven't got a clue what we are going through. We had Rosie to the vet today for her check up-she's been sneezing a bit the last few days. She got her CBC drawn (results tomorrow) and she checked out perfect, but a little PennG and cypro to see if we can nip the sneezing-so far tonight she has not sneezed. I'll add the Lysine for good measure. Murphy did sneeze right in her face a few times recently. She will barely touch wet food the last week since Murphy hasn't been eating along side of her. Last night about 1 am she was wailing-carrying her toy around the house. Glenn got up and spent some time with her in the living room so I could get to sleep, I had to work today. Our vet was so kind-Dr Krysta at the Sacramento Cat Hospital and she said they have learned so much with Murphy and treating FeLV with open eyes and minds. Thanks to this board, we discovered the Imulan LTCI-they ordered it for us over a year ago. I believe it did give us more time with Murphy. Thanks to Dawn and the suggestion to try Rutin for the fluid in his lungs-the vet was amazed at how great his lungs sounded after a short time with the Rutin-she said they used it for another condition but had never considered using it for FeLV cats and the fluid in their chests with the Lymphoma. When Rosie came home from the vet today, she searched the entire house for Murphy-for the first time in her life, she is solo. I'm not sure what to do, but time will help. I am so grateful for all of your support the last year or so. Our lives are much enriched with learning how precious every day is. Gratefully, Alice, Glenn and Rosie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Gloria, It is suppose to have a kind of hypnotic effect on them to keep them clam, I think it simulates the way a mom kitty holds her kitten, can't say I noticed that with Fred but he figured since he couldn't reach me to bite me anymore it wasn't worth it to try so he stopped after a week, maybe not even that long and he is very mellow ever since getting his fluids. I know he feels better and I think he had figured that out too. Here is the story on it: http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick PS. the first picture is the kitty without the clothes pins. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have to ask, Belinda - what are the clothes pins for? Have had CRF cats, never tried that. Gloria On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote: My thoughts on this: It tore my guts out to read about the horrendous things so many of the members were putting their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats through I just want to give another perspective, Fred is 18 or so now, he was 15 when he was diagnosed very early CRF and hyper thyroid, I'm on the CRF list you spoke of and I can't thank all of them for all the support I have gotten to keep Fred going. When I first started doing the fluids he needs daily he would bite me, he didn't like it, but after a week of using clothes pins on him he accepted it and has been getting them for over 2 years with no problems. Did it hurt him to put clothes pins down his neck for a week, no, I tried it on myself first, it felt like pressure but there was no pain, and he still tried to bite me but realised he couldn't reach me anymore and gave up. He also gets pills 4 or 5 times a day and of course he doesn't love it but my way of thinking is if you add it all up for the 30 minutes or so a day that it totals for the time I have to give him pills and fluids, he has lived a good quality of life for 3 more years ... I guarantee you he would have died years ago without my intervention. When anyone animal, person doesn't feel good they don't want to be messed with, I know that from my own experience, when I am sick, I don't want to eat or drink or want anyone to bother me. That doesn't mean I want to die. Once you get over the hump with help from your family and meds and feel better things get back to somewhat normal, as normal as they can be when you have a terminal condition. Yes I know at some point Fred will eventually not do as well and no matter what I do will keep getting worse because I do know CRF doesn't get cured BUT I will do everything I can to keep Fred here with me feeling as well as can be expected with his age and condition. Am I selfish, perhaps, but as you said, this is what I would want for myself, I am not leaving easily when it is my time and everyone that knows me knows that. Fred used to sleep on my pillow every night but I have his bed set up with everything but the litter box right there for him, so he prefers to stay there, he still comes in on occasion and stays a while, then goes back to his room. Do I think he doesn't like me anymore, no, he comes to me many times throughout the day and sits on my chest a few minutes so I can love him but he doesn't like me to give him his pills and if he weren't so lazy and a little weak he probably would run and hide, but it takes all of 10 seconds and it is over. It took a good 8 months or so to get him stable when we first found out he was CRF, he stopped eating and got a feeding tube. He gained back all the weight he lost and and pulled the tube out himself. Up until recently was keeping his weight pretty stable. He is losing weight now, he has virtually no muscle in either back leg and I can see he is getting to the point where things are going to start deteriorating as they do with this condition. I don't know how much longer we have but as long as he enjoys going out to lay in the sun, enjoys spending time with me I will do everything in my power to keep him going. Do I think anything I have done to keep Fred with me is horrendous, no, some people may, but I don't. I have gotten 3 more years of some very good memories with my Fred and I think for the most part Fred has enjoyed being here those 3 extra years. Everyone has their own ideas about quality of life, I personally think some people give up too early because of my beliefs and sometimes it is very hard for me to not say something but then I remember it is their pet and as long as whatever they are doing is out of love for that pet then I really can't say anything. What one person thinks is horrendous is loving and compassionate care to another. We can only do what we think is best for those in our care according to what our beliefs are ... When it is obvious to me that nothing I do will make any difference anymore then I will let Fred go. At some point the body, animal or human just can't go on anymore and when that is evident then I know I have done all I can I won't be happy about it but ... Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My thoughts on this: It tore my guts out to read about the horrendous things so many of the members were putting their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats through I just want to give another perspective, Fred is 18 or so now, he was 15 when he was diagnosed very early CRF and hyper thyroid, I'm on the CRF list you spoke of and I can't thank all of them for all the support I have gotten to keep Fred going. When I first started doing the fluids he needs daily he would bite me, he didn't like it, but after a week of using clothes pins on him he accepted it and has been getting them for over 2 years with no problems. Did it hurt him to put clothes pins down his neck for a week, no, I tried it on myself first, it felt like pressure but there was no pain, and he still tried to bite me but realised he couldn't reach me anymore and gave up. He also gets pills 4 or 5 times a day and of course he doesn't love it but my way of thinking is if you add it all up for the 30 minutes or so a day that it totals for the time I have to give him pills and fluids, he has lived a good quality of life for 3 more years ... I guarantee you he would have died years ago without my intervention. When anyone animal, person doesn't feel good they don't want to be messed with, I know that from my own experience, when I am sick, I don't want to eat or drink or want anyone to bother me. That doesn't mean I want to die. Once you get over the hump with help from your family and meds and feel better things get back to somewhat normal, as normal as they can be when you have a terminal condition. Yes I know at some point Fred will eventually not do as well and no matter what I do will keep getting worse because I do know CRF doesn't get cured BUT I will do everything I can to keep Fred here with me feeling as well as can be expected with his age and condition. Am I selfish, perhaps, but as you said, this is what I would want for myself, I am not leaving easily when it is my time and everyone that knows me knows that. Fred used to sleep on my pillow every night but I have his bed set up with everything but the litter box right there for him, so he prefers to stay there, he still comes in on occasion and stays a while, then goes back to his room. Do I think he doesn't like me anymore, no, he comes to me many times throughout the day and sits on my chest a few minutes so I can love him but he doesn't like me to give him his pills and if he weren't so lazy and a little weak he probably would run and hide, but it takes all of 10 seconds and it is over. It took a good 8 months or so to get him stable when we first found out he was CRF, he stopped eating and got a feeding tube. He gained back all the weight he lost and and pulled the tube out himself. Up until recently was keeping his weight pretty stable. He is losing weight now, he has virtually no muscle in either back leg and I can see he is getting to the point where things are going to start deteriorating as they do with this condition. I don't know how much longer we have but as long as he enjoys going out to lay in the sun, enjoys spending time with me I will do everything in my power to keep him going. Do I think anything I have done to keep Fred with me is horrendous, no, some people may, but I don't. I have gotten 3 more years of some very good memories with my Fred and I think for the most part Fred has enjoyed being here those 3 extra years. Everyone has their own ideas about quality of life, I personally think some people give up too early because of my beliefs and sometimes it is very hard for me to not say something but then I remember it is their pet and as long as whatever they are doing is out of love for that pet then I really can't say anything. What one person thinks is horrendous is loving and compassionate care to another. We can only do what we think is best for those in our care according to what our beliefs are ... When it is obvious to me that nothing I do will make any difference anymore then I will let Fred go. At some point the body, animal or human just can't go on anymore and when that is evident then I know I have done all I can I won't be happy about it but ... Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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it's the red gene, i'm told On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Amy Dalgliesh wrote: > MaryChristine, > What is it about those sassy, fiesty, independant calico girls that makes > us love them so? We must be suckers for punishment, cause they sure do love > to dole it out. One of mine is ancient, weighs less than 6 lbs, toothless > and I still can't pill her. She's the smallest cat of the bunch, but she > can move a 15 lb male from his bowl of canned food just by staring at him. > I'm crazy about her and I celebrate her attitude. > > --- On Wed, 8/12/09, MaryChristine wrote: > > > From: MaryChristine > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:12 AM > > > i think it's really natural for us to want to try EVERYTHING to help our > beloved ones, even when, sometimes, it's in our best interests and not > really theirs. that's what i believe that i have learned from my cats in > their final days. i know that, early on, i kept some of mine around > longer than i would do now, but not from meanness, rather from lack of > awareness. i had to learn... to separate out their needs from mine, to ask > them what they needed, to truly listen to what they were telling me. > > people learn at different rates; i try very hard (not always successfully, > as those reading another FeLV list can attest) not to judge others' > progress. > > i actually have a kitty in terminal crf right now; she bit the hell out of > me the last two times i tried to hydrate her. she's my remaining heartcat, > and her refusing treatment is killing me--but how can i not honor her > choices, after all she's given me through the years? she's the official > international spokescat for the Calico Liberation Coalition, CaLiCo, a > 4-paw-declawed, harlequin girl that refuses to purr tho will, very > occasionally, practice Rhythmic Growling--to force her to do anything would > be an assault on her very cathood. she's someplace close to 16 years > old, and has blessed my life with bite wounds and attiTUDE for over ten > years now--i adore her, and know completely that in her furry little > multicolored heart, she feels the same way toward me. i will do what is > best for her when her job on this earth is complete; no matter how much it > pains me--i know that she will tell me if she needs help, tho actually i'm > just hoping she'll allow me to be with her when the time comes, and not > just > leave me an email. > > the wisest advice i've ever gotten, though, is that it's best to send them > across the bridge one day too soon, than five minutes too late. feeling > guilty about their, "not being ready," when they weren't yet suffering, is > pointless, but nothing compared to the knowledge that one has waited too > long. > > sometimes, tho, we need to go through the latter to understand. we need to > be gentle with one another as we learn these horrible lessons. and hope > that > what we learn so painfully can help someone else learn them with less > difficulty. > > > > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org > ) > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help
MaryChristine, What is it about those sassy, fiesty, independant calico girls that makes us love them so? We must be suckers for punishment, cause they sure do love to dole it out. One of mine is ancient, weighs less than 6 lbs, toothless and I still can't pill her. She's the smallest cat of the bunch, but she can move a 15 lb male from his bowl of canned food just by staring at him. I'm crazy about her and I celebrate her attitude. --- On Wed, 8/12/09, MaryChristine wrote: From: MaryChristine Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:12 AM i think it's really natural for us to want to try EVERYTHING to help our beloved ones, even when, sometimes, it's in our best interests and not really theirs. that's what i believe that i have learned from my cats in their final days. i know that, early on, i kept some of mine around longer than i would do now, but not from meanness, rather from lack of awareness. i had to learn... to separate out their needs from mine, to ask them what they needed, to truly listen to what they were telling me. people learn at different rates; i try very hard (not always successfully, as those reading another FeLV list can attest) not to judge others' progress. i actually have a kitty in terminal crf right now; she bit the hell out of me the last two times i tried to hydrate her. she's my remaining heartcat, and her refusing treatment is killing me--but how can i not honor her choices, after all she's given me through the years? she's the official international spokescat for the Calico Liberation Coalition, CaLiCo, a 4-paw-declawed, harlequin girl that refuses to purr tho will, very occasionally, practice Rhythmic Growling--to force her to do anything would be an assault on her very cathood. she's someplace close to 16 years old, and has blessed my life with bite wounds and attiTUDE for over ten years now--i adore her, and know completely that in her furry little multicolored heart, she feels the same way toward me. i will do what is best for her when her job on this earth is complete; no matter how much it pains me--i know that she will tell me if she needs help, tho actually i'm just hoping she'll allow me to be with her when the time comes, and not just leave me an email. the wisest advice i've ever gotten, though, is that it's best to send them across the bridge one day too soon, than five minutes too late. feeling guilty about their, "not being ready," when they weren't yet suffering, is pointless, but nothing compared to the knowledge that one has waited too long. sometimes, tho, we need to go through the latter to understand. we need to be gentle with one another as we learn these horrible lessons. and hope that what we learn so painfully can help someone else learn them with less difficulty. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help
i think it's really natural for us to want to try EVERYTHING to help our beloved ones, even when, sometimes, it's in our best interests and not really theirs. that's what i believe that i have learned from my cats in their final days. i know that, early on, i kept some of mine around longer than i would do now, but not from meanness, rather from lack of awareness. i had to learn... to separate out their needs from mine, to ask them what they needed, to truly listen to what they were telling me. people learn at different rates; i try very hard (not always successfully, as those reading another FeLV list can attest) not to judge others' progress. i actually have a kitty in terminal crf right now; she bit the hell out of me the last two times i tried to hydrate her. she's my remaining heartcat, and her refusing treatment is killing me--but how can i not honor her choices, after all she's given me through the years? she's the official international spokescat for the Calico Liberation Coalition, CaLiCo, a 4-paw-declawed, harlequin girl that refuses to purr tho will, very occasionally, practice Rhythmic Growling--to force her to do anything would be an assault on her very cathood. she's someplace close to 16 years old, and has blessed my life with bite wounds and attiTUDE for over ten years now--i adore her, and know completely that in her furry little multicolored heart, she feels the same way toward me. i will do what is best for her when her job on this earth is complete; no matter how much it pains me--i know that she will tell me if she needs help, tho actually i'm just hoping she'll allow me to be with her when the time comes, and not just leave me an email. the wisest advice i've ever gotten, though, is that it's best to send them across the bridge one day too soon, than five minutes too late. feeling guilty about their, "not being ready," when they weren't yet suffering, is pointless, but nothing compared to the knowledge that one has waited too long. sometimes, tho, we need to go through the latter to understand. we need to be gentle with one another as we learn these horrible lessons. and hope that what we learn so painfully can help someone else learn them with less difficulty. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lorrie, Just a comment about CRF kitties. My Pequita was dx with CRF over 3 yrs ago. She'll be 17 this Oct. She has been on meds and daily sub q fluids for most of those 3 yrs. I assist feed her several times per day. She will only eat from a baby spoon. I do the meds, feedings and fluids on her terms and she is doing fine. Often when a kitty crashed they are are very resistant to treatment. It is all new and strange for them. Once the person develops a treatment schedule things usually go a lot better. Like people, cats like to know what is going to happen and when it is going to happen. I just don't want people here to think that treating CRF or any chronic disease should not be attempted. Each kitty is unique and will respond to treatment plans differently. Often members of the CRF group are in a panic mode and are still dealing with a kitty in crisis. You don't know how yours will respond until you try. Whatever problem our beloved companions have we need to remember to love them and treasure each day we have together. Sharyl --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Lorrie wrote: > From: Lorrie > Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 7:46 AM > Dear Friends, I want to thank all of > you for your help and advice > about the FelV cat in my cageless FelV shelter who is > slowly wasting > away. I really appreciate your caring > responses. I did not want to > take "Mimi" to the vet to be PTS, as it is so stressful for > her, and > you helped me make my decision to just love and comfort her > where she > is now, in her favorite sleeping place. > > Frank, I too am haunted by the memory of taking a dying cat > to the > vet and watching him use what little strength he had left > to fight > going there. It was awful, and unless a cat is in > extreme pain I > will never do this again. > > Maybe I shouldn't comment on this here, but I also have a > cat who > is 16 years old and has the beginnings of CRF, so I joined > the CRF > group, but I only stayed there about a week. It tore > my guts out to > read about the horrendous things so many of the members > were putting > their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats > through > They described how the cats no longer came to them for > love, as they > knew they'd be poked and prodded! It > seemed everyone in the group > was determined to keep their cats alive no matter what they > put them > through. I couldn't stand reading about it, so I dropped > out. The > members of this FelV group seem to have a more realistic > attitude. > We will all die someday, and keeping people or animals > alive on > tubes and needles is not the way I want to leave this > earth! > > Lorrie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thank you for your help
Dear Friends, I want to thank all of you for your help and advice about the FelV cat in my cageless FelV shelter who is slowly wasting away. I really appreciate your caring responses. I did not want to take "Mimi" to the vet to be PTS, as it is so stressful for her, and you helped me make my decision to just love and comfort her where she is now, in her favorite sleeping place. Frank, I too am haunted by the memory of taking a dying cat to the vet and watching him use what little strength he had left to fight going there. It was awful, and unless a cat is in extreme pain I will never do this again. Maybe I shouldn't comment on this here, but I also have a cat who is 16 years old and has the beginnings of CRF, so I joined the CRF group, but I only stayed there about a week. It tore my guts out to read about the horrendous things so many of the members were putting their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats through They described how the cats no longer came to them for love, as they knew they'd be poked and prodded! It seemed everyone in the group was determined to keep their cats alive no matter what they put them through. I couldn't stand reading about it, so I dropped out. The members of this FelV group seem to have a more realistic attitude. We will all die someday, and keeping people or animals alive on tubes and needles is not the way I want to leave this earth! Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family
my babies are all buried in my flower gardens. have them scattered about in many gardens as i have had to bury many babies in the last 28 years, 2 dogs and 7 cats. they all loved to stroll throgh the flowers, so i decided to bury them there. dorlis Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > A garden is a lovely idea. With all the love and care you gave to Bella, I > bet her garden turns out great. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Orth, Sarai > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family > > Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed the > support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a special > relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that their passing > leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week is a better week as we > are starting to be able to think lovingly about her and laugh about funny > things she did! We miss her still and plan to make a beautiful garden for > her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to planning out something > lovely to honor her. I will take your words of wisdom and just keep loving > the other baby like there is no tomorrow! He is spoiled rotten these > days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my husband never would have > allowed before J) We hope that he stays symptom free for many years as we > hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your kind words and if anyone else has > any advice on preventative measures- always feel free to post! > > > > Sarai Orth > > Career Path Services > > Co-Located @ Valley DSHS > > Monday-Thursday 7-5:30 > > Voice (509) 227-2892 > > Fax (509) 227-2894 > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family
A garden is a lovely idea. With all the love and care you gave to Bella, I bet her garden turns out great. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Orth, Sarai Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed the support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a special relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that their passing leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week is a better week as we are starting to be able to think lovingly about her and laugh about funny things she did! We miss her still and plan to make a beautiful garden for her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to planning out something lovely to honor her. I will take your words of wisdom and just keep loving the other baby like there is no tomorrow! He is spoiled rotten these days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my husband never would have allowed before J) We hope that he stays symptom free for many years as we hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your kind words and if anyone else has any advice on preventative measures- always feel free to post! Sarai Orth Career Path Services Co-Located @ Valley DSHS Monday-Thursday 7-5:30 Voice (509) 227-2892 Fax (509) 227-2894 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family
Peace to you. A suggestion since you are learning to heal: Start a chronicle of your little one(s). Write in it daily. I've done that with Copper and Thomas and frequently look back at the notes. Every time I do, I laugh and love these little guys even more. I sent emails to some friends about Dixie, who left this world all too some because of this disease, and they are comforting. The chronicles evolved from her emails. On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Orth, Sarai wrote: Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed the support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a special relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that their passing leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week is a better week as we are starting to be able to think lovingly about her and laugh about funny things she did! We miss her still and plan to make a beautiful garden for her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to planning out something lovely to honor her. I will take your words of wisdom and just keep loving the other baby like there is no tomorrow! He is spoiled rotten these days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my husband never would have allowed before J) We hope that he stays symptom free for many years as we hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your kind words and if anyone else has any advice on preventative measures- always feel free to post! Sarai Orth Career Path Services Co-Located @ Valley DSHS Monday-Thursday 7-5:30 Voice (509) 227-2892 Fax (509) 227-2894 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family
Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed the support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a special relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that their passing leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week is a better week as we are starting to be able to think lovingly about her and laugh about funny things she did! We miss her still and plan to make a beautiful garden for her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to planning out something lovely to honor her. I will take your words of wisdom and just keep loving the other baby like there is no tomorrow! He is spoiled rotten these days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my husband never would have allowed before J) We hope that he stays symptom free for many years as we hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your kind words and if anyone else has any advice on preventative measures- always feel free to post! Sarai Orth Career Path Services Co-Located @ Valley DSHS Monday-Thursday 7-5:30 Voice (509) 227-2892 Fax (509) 227-2894 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you everyone!
Amber, We have been using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone marrow. At this point we are not sure if anything will help him. We have not run into another situation such as ours. We took in a stray pregnant female in 2007, which tested negative for the FelV. She had 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the only one that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this disease. We know our time with him is so very precious. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:00:13 +> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you everyone!> > > I just wanted to thank everyone who posted in response to my "LTIC/Imulan & Losing Kitties" message. Your support and well wishes were wonderful and encouraging! > > Others who don't know much about FeLV can have some interesting responses sometimes. I had one of my neighbors come over to feed our cat Neo for a couple of days while we were away once. She ended up coming down with some horrible rash around the same time all over her body. She instantly thought it was due to FeLV. Even her vet told her it wouldn't have caused those symptoms in people! I don't know if she ever found out the true cause of her skin condition, but again the first thought was to blame my cat!> > But I digress. Hopefully I'll find a cat sitter next time I go away that isn't fearful of the illness. > > We started Neo on the LTIC shots this past week. He's in good health now so hopefully it will prolong his life. Does anyone have experience with LTIC with their kitties?> > Thanks again and I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. :)> Amber> > > > _> Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile®. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I just wanted to thank everyone who posted in response to my "LTIC/Imulan & Losing Kitties" message. Your support and well wishes were wonderful and encouraging! Others who don't know much about FeLV can have some interesting responses sometimes. I had one of my neighbors come over to feed our cat Neo for a couple of days while we were away once. She ended up coming down with some horrible rash around the same time all over her body. She instantly thought it was due to FeLV. Even her vet told her it wouldn't have caused those symptoms in people! I don't know if she ever found out the true cause of her skin condition, but again the first thought was to blame my cat! But I digress. Hopefully I'll find a cat sitter next time I go away that isn't fearful of the illness. We started Neo on the LTIC shots this past week. He's in good health now so hopefully it will prolong his life. Does anyone have experience with LTIC with their kitties? Thanks again and I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. :) Amber _ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yipee!!! I am so happy for the good news. Junior started out anemic as well it was actually the first symptom that something was wrong. He was put on Baytril rather than doxy but for the same reason. His anemia got better. It was not as bad as Buzzy's. Great News. Sally Davis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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that is such great news, sue--doxy is one of those scary drugs, to me, because it is SO strong, but damn, when it's used in the correct way for the correct conditions, it WORKS. this is a perfect example of the relationship we deserve to have with our vets--a PARTNERSHIP--they can't know everything, and because we have the ultimate impetus to learn the details of specific conditions affecting OUR companions, we often have access to alternative information that they just haven't had the reason to come across. being open to what other vets HAVE learned, or what we have found in our wanderings is what matters--as with human medicine, WE are the consumers, and if our vets won't work with us, we need to find new vets. i'm SO glad that buzzy's numbers are climbing. MC On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Sue Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone from > 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. It > is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the > Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone > that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be > loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! > Thank you everyone! > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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His energy level continues to improve. If I were to look at him now not knowing what he had been through I would not know that he was sick. He still doesn't play like the kitten he still is (a little over a year old). I just love to watch him eat. He is back to following me around. Did you ever decide what to do about BooBoo's son? Or are you just trying to get through all you are going through with Lennie right now? Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: = Wonderful news Sue. I so hope he continues to improve and fight this along with you. How is he feeling by the way? Lynne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wonderful news Sue. I so hope he continues to improve and fight this along with you. How is he feeling by the way? Lynne - Original Message - From: "Sue Koren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FeLV Talk" Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list. >I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone from >8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. >It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the >Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the >prednesone that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. >He will be loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping >it is years! Thank you everyone! > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > __ NOD32 3301 (20080727) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sue, I am SO happy to hear this! That is absolutely wonderful! :):):):) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sue Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FeLV Talk Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 10:41:03 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list. I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone from 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! Thank you everyone! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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What wonderful news, Sue!! I have learned so much from everyone here already!!!> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:41:03 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.> > I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone from 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! Thank you everyone!> > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone from 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! Thank you everyone! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org