Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[maccrawj]

Personally I would of gone with a Rampage II. More truthfully I would not be forking 
out $$$ for DDR3 anything just yet. After Antec raped me on bad cap PSU I'd never 
give them another dime and that case is no where near as nice as a Cosmo, Stacker, 
Armor+, etc...  Would have gone > 750W PSU. Single Raptor a total waste of money, 
especially at the cost/GB IMHO.


Major over-spend in general but future proof for an extra 12mo at a premium.

Bobby Heid wrote:

Well, I know that you all were holding your breath waiting to see what I
got.  LOL.

I just ordered an EVGA GTX 285 for $360 after  $20 rebate.
http://www.buy.com/prod/evga-geforce-gtx-285-1gb-ddr3-648mhz-pci-e-2-0-video
-card/q/loc/101/210657180.html

I know, I know, my limit was $300.  But the lower power consumption and heat
(I only have a 750W PS) enticed me to spend a little more.

All I have left for my build is the MB (Asus P6T deluxe) and 2 1TB drives.
I will be using the velociraptor 150 as the boot drive.  I wanted to get the
MB last so that I can get the latest revision on it.

Here's what I have so far (in case anyone is interested):
Intel Core I7 920 (will start off with the stock cooler - which is bigger
than I expected)
Corsair Dominator 6GB (3x2GB) CL 8 RAM
Antec 900 case
PC Power and cooling 750W PS
2 - Lite-On LightScribe DVD writers
1 - Velociraptor 150GB HD
Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP1
Hauppauge 1800 TV tuner

I will wait until I have it built to see if I need more than the on-board
sound.


Thanks for everyone's input.

Bobby

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Well, I know that you all were holding your breath waiting to see what I
got.  LOL.

I just ordered an EVGA GTX 285 for $360 after  $20 rebate.
http://www.buy.com/prod/evga-geforce-gtx-285-1gb-ddr3-648mhz-pci-e-2-0-video
-card/q/loc/101/210657180.html

I know, I know, my limit was $300.  But the lower power consumption and heat
(I only have a 750W PS) enticed me to spend a little more.

All I have left for my build is the MB (Asus P6T deluxe) and 2 1TB drives.
I will be using the velociraptor 150 as the boot drive.  I wanted to get the
MB last so that I can get the latest revision on it.

Here's what I have so far (in case anyone is interested):
Intel Core I7 920 (will start off with the stock cooler - which is bigger
than I expected)
Corsair Dominator 6GB (3x2GB) CL 8 RAM
Antec 900 case
PC Power and cooling 750W PS
2 - Lite-On LightScribe DVD writers
1 - Velociraptor 150GB HD
Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP1
Hauppauge 1800 TV tuner

I will wait until I have it built to see if I need more than the on-board
sound.


Thanks for everyone's input.

Bobby

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[maccrawj]

Sure looks like only thing keeping the NV's at the top is biased game engines. 
Performance not real strong for new part vs. 6mo/o competition should motivate ATI to 
keep the war going. ;)


Bobby Heid wrote:

I'd love one of those.  But I'm not going to spend $500 to get one.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:37 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Some benchmarks on the 295:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3498

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

I'd love one of those.  But I'm not going to spend $500 to get one.  LOL.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:37 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Some benchmarks on the 295:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3498

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org>
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bobby Heid  wrote:

> Sorry that I took your earlier email wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:21 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
>
> Time out! My bad for being so quick with a OPINION expressed in bad prose,
> sorry!
>
> You're not being lambasted nor am I insisting you need to do ATI was
> implying in a 2
> horse race you were really limiting your options based what sounds like
> arbitrary
> reasons about old issues that may/may not have bearing on today. If I was
> to
> go on
> past experiences I'd never buy a Intel, AMD, a Sleazgate HDD or HP
> anything!
> ;)
>
> The response was supposed to be laced with *sarcasm* in response to your
> being so
> (seemingly) staunchly tied to a brand rather than good choices despite
> brand. I am
> not saying ATI is best of 2 nor was I trashing NV video cards. Trashing
> drivers & BS
> corporate policies yes, hardware no. Note I was looking at NV last year,
so
> I am not
> saying they're shit by any means, though in fairness both companies have a
> lot of
> work to do IMHO.
>
> As you say, building with X58 so SLI issue is moot yet there's still a bit
> chill in
> the air from NV's dissing pre-X58 users. Were I do X58 I'd be sizing up
> BOTH
> the NV
> 2x0 series at this point vs. ATI HD48x0 X2 series.
>
> Good luck on the build!
>
>
> Bobby Heid wrote:
> > I was not being flip.  I just had no desire to go with ATI (after many
> > issues with ATI many years ago).  So ATI was not a valid choice as I had
> > already chosen Nvidia.  Instead of having people waste their time going
> > through the trouble of writing a reply that was in favor of ATI, when I
> > wasn't interested in ATI, I was trying to steer the thread where I
wanted
> to
> > go.  And that was with Nvidia.  I have weighed all of the options many
> times
> > and still decide to choose Nvidia.
> >
> > What bothers me though is that my email was just a request for opinions
> > about what I asked for.  I did not expect to be lambasted for not
> choosing
> > ATI.  I did not trash ATI or say that Nvidia was the ultimate brand over
> all
> > brands.  If I had asked for opinions about the different Ford Mustang
> models
> > I would not expect to hear about Chevrolet or Toyota.
> >
> > BTW, I am building an X58 system.  So the SLI issue is moot here.
> >
> > Bobby
> >
>
>
>

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Brian Weeden]

Some benchmarks on the 295:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3498

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org>
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bobby Heid  wrote:

> Sorry that I took your earlier email wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:21 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
>
> Time out! My bad for being so quick with a OPINION expressed in bad prose,
> sorry!
>
> You're not being lambasted nor am I insisting you need to do ATI was
> implying in a 2
> horse race you were really limiting your options based what sounds like
> arbitrary
> reasons about old issues that may/may not have bearing on today. If I was
> to
> go on
> past experiences I'd never buy a Intel, AMD, a Sleazgate HDD or HP
> anything!
> ;)
>
> The response was supposed to be laced with *sarcasm* in response to your
> being so
> (seemingly) staunchly tied to a brand rather than good choices despite
> brand. I am
> not saying ATI is best of 2 nor was I trashing NV video cards. Trashing
> drivers & BS
> corporate policies yes, hardware no. Note I was looking at NV last year, so
> I am not
> saying they're shit by any means, though in fairness both companies have a
> lot of
> work to do IMHO.
>
> As you say, building with X58 so SLI issue is moot yet there's still a bit
> chill in
> the air from NV's dissing pre-X58 users. Were I do X58 I'd be sizing up
> BOTH
> the NV
> 2x0 series at this point vs. ATI HD48x0 X2 series.
>
> Good luck on the build!
>
>
> Bobby Heid wrote:
> > I was not being flip.  I just had no desire to go with ATI (after many
> > issues with ATI many years ago).  So ATI was not a valid choice as I had
> > already chosen Nvidia.  Instead of having people waste their time going
> > through the trouble of writing a reply that was in favor of ATI, when I
> > wasn't interested in ATI, I was trying to steer the thread where I wanted
> to
> > go.  And that was with Nvidia.  I have weighed all of the options many
> times
> > and still decide to choose Nvidia.
> >
> > What bothers me though is that my email was just a request for opinions
> > about what I asked for.  I did not expect to be lambasted for not
> choosing
> > ATI.  I did not trash ATI or say that Nvidia was the ultimate brand over
> all
> > brands.  If I had asked for opinions about the different Ford Mustang
> models
> > I would not expect to hear about Chevrolet or Toyota.
> >
> > BTW, I am building an X58 system.  So the SLI issue is moot here.
> >
> > Bobby
> >
>
>
>

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Sorry that I took your earlier email wrong.

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:21 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Time out! My bad for being so quick with a OPINION expressed in bad prose,
sorry!

You're not being lambasted nor am I insisting you need to do ATI was
implying in a 2 
horse race you were really limiting your options based what sounds like
arbitrary 
reasons about old issues that may/may not have bearing on today. If I was to
go on 
past experiences I'd never buy a Intel, AMD, a Sleazgate HDD or HP anything!
;)

The response was supposed to be laced with *sarcasm* in response to your
being so 
(seemingly) staunchly tied to a brand rather than good choices despite
brand. I am 
not saying ATI is best of 2 nor was I trashing NV video cards. Trashing
drivers & BS 
corporate policies yes, hardware no. Note I was looking at NV last year, so
I am not 
saying they're shit by any means, though in fairness both companies have a
lot of 
work to do IMHO.

As you say, building with X58 so SLI issue is moot yet there's still a bit
chill in 
the air from NV's dissing pre-X58 users. Were I do X58 I'd be sizing up BOTH
the NV 
2x0 series at this point vs. ATI HD48x0 X2 series.

Good luck on the build!


Bobby Heid wrote:
> I was not being flip.  I just had no desire to go with ATI (after many
> issues with ATI many years ago).  So ATI was not a valid choice as I had
> already chosen Nvidia.  Instead of having people waste their time going
> through the trouble of writing a reply that was in favor of ATI, when I
> wasn't interested in ATI, I was trying to steer the thread where I wanted
to
> go.  And that was with Nvidia.  I have weighed all of the options many
times
> and still decide to choose Nvidia.
> 
> What bothers me though is that my email was just a request for opinions
> about what I asked for.  I did not expect to be lambasted for not choosing
> ATI.  I did not trash ATI or say that Nvidia was the ultimate brand over
all
> brands.  If I had asked for opinions about the different Ford Mustang
models
> I would not expect to hear about Chevrolet or Toyota.
> 
> BTW, I am building an X58 system.  So the SLI issue is moot here.
> 
> Bobby
> 

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[maccrawj]

Time out! My bad for being so quick with a OPINION expressed in bad prose, 
sorry!

You're not being lambasted nor am I insisting you need to do ATI was implying in a 2 
horse race you were really limiting your options based what sounds like arbitrary 
reasons about old issues that may/may not have bearing on today. If I was to go on 
past experiences I'd never buy a Intel, AMD, a Sleazgate HDD or HP anything! ;)


The response was supposed to be laced with *sarcasm* in response to your being so 
(seemingly) staunchly tied to a brand rather than good choices despite brand. I am 
not saying ATI is best of 2 nor was I trashing NV video cards. Trashing drivers & BS 
corporate policies yes, hardware no. Note I was looking at NV last year, so I am not 
saying they're shit by any means, though in fairness both companies have a lot of 
work to do IMHO.


As you say, building with X58 so SLI issue is moot yet there's still a bit chill in 
the air from NV's dissing pre-X58 users. Were I do X58 I'd be sizing up BOTH the NV 
2x0 series at this point vs. ATI HD48x0 X2 series.


Good luck on the build!


Bobby Heid wrote:

I was not being flip.  I just had no desire to go with ATI (after many
issues with ATI many years ago).  So ATI was not a valid choice as I had
already chosen Nvidia.  Instead of having people waste their time going
through the trouble of writing a reply that was in favor of ATI, when I
wasn't interested in ATI, I was trying to steer the thread where I wanted to
go.  And that was with Nvidia.  I have weighed all of the options many times
and still decide to choose Nvidia.

What bothers me though is that my email was just a request for opinions
about what I asked for.  I did not expect to be lambasted for not choosing
ATI.  I did not trash ATI or say that Nvidia was the ultimate brand over all
brands.  If I had asked for opinions about the different Ford Mustang models
I would not expect to hear about Chevrolet or Toyota.

BTW, I am building an X58 system.  So the SLI issue is moot here.

Bobby

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

I was not being flip.  I just had no desire to go with ATI (after many
issues with ATI many years ago).  So ATI was not a valid choice as I had
already chosen Nvidia.  Instead of having people waste their time going
through the trouble of writing a reply that was in favor of ATI, when I
wasn't interested in ATI, I was trying to steer the thread where I wanted to
go.  And that was with Nvidia.  I have weighed all of the options many times
and still decide to choose Nvidia.

What bothers me though is that my email was just a request for opinions
about what I asked for.  I did not expect to be lambasted for not choosing
ATI.  I did not trash ATI or say that Nvidia was the ultimate brand over all
brands.  If I had asked for opinions about the different Ford Mustang models
I would not expect to hear about Chevrolet or Toyota.

BTW, I am building an X58 system.  So the SLI issue is moot here.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:01 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Well when you close off a valid choice so flippantly, someone will speak up!

Unless you're on X58, Nvidia artificially prevents SLI for anything but
their 
chipsets. Say what you want today about not EVER doing SLI/CF, but it may be
a 
consideration later and I did not want to lock myself out nor did I want
NV's mobo 
chipset at all. Was looking for months at those killer 8800's that were
supposed to 
be dirt cheap & almost as fast as the the high-end card only to stumble on
"drivers 
prevent SLI on non-NV chipsets" due to NV's money grubbing for licensing
fees for 
something that would have just worked if they didn't actively prevent it.
Will be a 
long time before I choose to give them any $$$ for new product, no matter
what issue 
I hit with ATI.



Bobby Heid wrote:
> LOL.  I was waiting on one of these.
> 
> Bobby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> Your loss, the ATI thing that is...
> 
> Bobby Heid wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
> of
>> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
>> plans on an ATI card.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Guru3d.com has a review of the ye
> 
> 
> 

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[maccrawj]

Well when you close off a valid choice so flippantly, someone will speak up!

Unless you're on X58, Nvidia artificially prevents SLI for anything but their 
chipsets. Say what you want today about not EVER doing SLI/CF, but it may be a 
consideration later and I did not want to lock myself out nor did I want NV's mobo 
chipset at all. Was looking for months at those killer 8800's that were supposed to 
be dirt cheap & almost as fast as the the high-end card only to stumble on "drivers 
prevent SLI on non-NV chipsets" due to NV's money grubbing for licensing fees for 
something that would have just worked if they didn't actively prevent it. Will be a 
long time before I choose to give them any $$$ for new product, no matter what issue 
I hit with ATI.




Bobby Heid wrote:

LOL.  I was waiting on one of these.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Your loss, the ATI thing that is...

Bobby Heid wrote:

Hey,

 


I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit

of

about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 


Guru3d.com has a review of the ye

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

LOL.  I was waiting on one of these.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Your loss, the ATI thing that is...

Bobby Heid wrote:
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
> 
>  
> 
> Guru3d.com has a review of the ye

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[maccrawj]

Your loss, the ATI thing that is...

Bobby Heid wrote:

Hey,

 


I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 


Guru3d.com has a review of the ye

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Me again,

Looking back over my original questions, I really meant to ask should I wait
for the GTX 295 to be released to get a 280 or 285.

Well, the release has happened.  From what I can tell, the SRP of the 285s
appears to be about $400.  I found one somewhere and IIRC, it was about
$375.

Looking at Newegg.com, Buy.com, and ZipZoomFly.com, it looks like the 280s
have come down (with rebates) to as low as $200 up to about $300.

Now the question is, has anyone seen how the GTX 265s compare to the GTX
280s?

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:46 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Technically, a smaller GPU usually means a cheaper chip. That doesn't always
translate to street prices, of course. However, given the pressure AMD's
excellent 4800-series chips are putting on nvidia, they may see fit to drop
prices as their costs decrease.

Do you really mean the dual-GPU SLI GTX 295, or the single-GPU GTX 285 that
will be based on chips with the same 55nm process? If the former, you can
forget about $300. If the latter...it's possible. Look at the 8800GTS based
on G80 vs the 8800GTS based on G92. Faster card, but was less expensive as
the G92 die cost less to manufacture.


> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:35 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> But, I just thought of something.  Once they shrink the dies, will the
> price
> go up for the new ones?  Remember, I don't really want to spend over
> $300.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Greg Sevart]

Technically, a smaller GPU usually means a cheaper chip. That doesn't always
translate to street prices, of course. However, given the pressure AMD's
excellent 4800-series chips are putting on nvidia, they may see fit to drop
prices as their costs decrease.

Do you really mean the dual-GPU SLI GTX 295, or the single-GPU GTX 285 that
will be based on chips with the same 55nm process? If the former, you can
forget about $300. If the latter...it's possible. Look at the 8800GTS based
on G80 vs the 8800GTS based on G92. Faster card, but was less expensive as
the G92 die cost less to manufacture.


> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:35 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> But, I just thought of something.  Once they shrink the dies, will the
> price
> go up for the new ones?  Remember, I don't really want to spend over
> $300.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

But, I just thought of something.  Once they shrink the dies, will the price
go up for the new ones?  Remember, I don't really want to spend over $300.

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:27 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Ok, I'll wait :-(

Thanks,
Bobby


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:43 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Die shrink to 55nm is a huge win... I'd wait as well and I currently have a
GTX280 :)

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:17:03PM -0500, Bobby Heid wrote:
> Can you tell me why I should wait?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of
tmse...@rlrnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> Wait 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bobby Heid" 
> 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
> To: 
> Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
> 
>  
> 
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
> 
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
> 
>  
> 
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
>
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365&CMP=AFC-C8J
> unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction
> 
>  
> 
> My questions for you all are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
> 
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I
think)
> like the 295s will use?
> 
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a
VC?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bobby
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Ok, I'll wait :-(

Thanks,
Bobby


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:43 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Die shrink to 55nm is a huge win... I'd wait as well and I currently have a
GTX280 :)

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:17:03PM -0500, Bobby Heid wrote:
> Can you tell me why I should wait?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of
tmse...@rlrnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> Wait 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bobby Heid" 
> 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
> To: 
> Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
> 
>  
> 
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
> 
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
> 
>  
> 
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
>
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365&CMP=AFC-C8J
> unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction
> 
>  
> 
> My questions for you all are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
> 
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I
think)
> like the 295s will use?
> 
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a
VC?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bobby
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bryan Seitz]

Die shrink to 55nm is a huge win... I'd wait as well and I currently have a 
GTX280 :)

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:17:03PM -0500, Bobby Heid wrote:
> Can you tell me why I should wait?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> Wait 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bobby Heid" 
> 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
> To: 
> Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
> 
>  
> 
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
> 
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
> 
>  
> 
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
> <http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365&CMP=AFC-C8J
> unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction
> 
>  
> 
> My questions for you all are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
> 
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
> like the 295s will use?
> 
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bobby
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Can you tell me why I should wait?

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Wait 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: "Bobby Heid" 

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
To: 
Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?


Hey,

 

I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 

Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
(retail - $500):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/

 

Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365&CMP=AFC-C8J
unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction

 

My questions for you all are:

 

1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
once the 295s come out?

2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
like the 295s will use?

3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?

 

Thanks,

Bobby

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Brian Weeden]

I'm a huge believer in buying the previous generation of video cards when
the new ones come out.  As long as you aren't one of those fanatics who are
driven to have the absolutely highest resolution and frame rate you should
be fine with any of the current crop.

I recently went from a X1950 to a 4850 and I'm happy as a clam.

--
Brian


On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Bobby Heid  wrote:

> Hey,
>
>
>
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
> of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
>
>
>
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
>
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
>
>
>
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
>
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
> <
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365&CMP=AFC-C8J
> unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction
>
>
>
> My questions for you all are:
>
>
>
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
>
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
> like the 295s will use?
>
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bobby
>
>

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[tmservo]

Wait 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: "Bobby Heid" 

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
To: 
Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?


Hey,

 

I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 

Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
(retail - $500):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/

 

Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365&CMP=AFC-C8J
unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction

 

My questions for you all are:

 

1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
once the 295s come out?

2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
like the 295s will use?

3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?

 

Thanks,

Bobby

[H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Hey,

 

I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 

Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
(retail - $500):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/

 

Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
 &CMP=AFC-C8Junction

 

My questions for you all are:

 

1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
once the 295s come out?

2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
like the 295s will use?

3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?

 

Thanks,

Bobby