Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Please refer to my previous post about players who claim to have A popular server, but then complain about what happens to them as a player on other servers. On 8/2/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > You are right. And it is also not the "start a flame war" mailing list. > > As you can see, many people agree with me. > > And for the record, my server is highly rated and constantly full, so, > nice try anyway. > > > Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Play on your own damn servers then > > sheesh > > This isn't the "STEAM Cry about how unfairly server operators treat us" > mailing list is it? > > And if you have to play on other peoples servers because nobody is on YOUR > servers, then maybe you ought to take a look in the mirror 1st, before > telling others how to run their servers. > > It seems totally nonsensical for 1 server operator to tell another server > operator how they should run THEIR servers. Especially since, if for > whatever reason, anything a server operator does that is perceived to be > "bad" will only serve to drive players away, and more likely onto your > servers, if they are so much better than the competition. > > On 8/1/07, Hell Master wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. > > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential > for > > abuse > > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect > to. > > > > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your > > other servers. > > > > I am glad this feature is no longer available. > > > > > > > > > > Whisper wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Some of us do run multiple identical servers. > > > > Dust2 > > Office > > Dust2/Office > > DeathMatch > > DeathMatch War Maps > > GunGame > > Popular Maps > > Fun Maps > > > > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to > > some > > other GSP's > > > > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources > more > > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free > data > > usage for clients from a specific ISP. > > > > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful > > of > > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running > 50, > > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. > > > > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical > > servers > > > I > > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server > > when > > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have > > free > > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > > > > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > > > -- > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and > > simply > > > > joins > > > > > server 2? > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > >> > > > > >> Hello everybody, > > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and > I > > > > search > > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of > > our > > > > other > > > > >> server is free. > > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player > going > > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player > move > > > to > > > > the > > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > > > >> @+ > > > > >> Hervé > > > > >> _ > > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : > > analyse, > > > > news, > > > > >> coulisses… A découvrir ! > > > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > > > >> -- > > > > >> > > > > >> ___ > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ___ > > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubsc
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok, on a more serious note 1. Linux is only good to you if you have absolute 100% control over the box the Operating System is running on. If you have to rely on somebody else, you are pretty much stuffed. That is to say, you won't be playing with Kernel timer resolutions or Kernel versions or different distros for that matter, unless you have this level of countrol, and all the advice that many people will offer to you on how to optimise Linux for SRCDS will be wasted on you. 2. Unless you are very familiar with Linux, you are going to be in a bit of trouble compared to Windows. That is to say, Windows is a lot easier to setup & tweak initially. If you are familiar with Linux, then the difference is negligable. 3. For whatever reason, SRCDS seems to run with a lot less issues under Windows than it does under Linux. This mailing list is a testament to that fact. 4. It doesn't matter what OS you use, neither Linux nor Windows is going to magically wring another 50% extra cpu out of your hardware. Either you have good enough hardware to run SRCDS at the level you expect, or you do not. The choice of OS will not make any significant difference, and any negative perceived performance differences are more likely down to the experince and skill of the server operator rather than any inherent difference in the Operating Systems. So in the end, Windows will cost you up front in dollars, but just about any idiot can set it up to run SRCDS well, it is not hard. Linux will cost you nothing up front, but MAY cost you a lot in time and effort if you are not experienced in its setup & use. That is pretty much your choices. P.S. I am not trying to scare you off Linux if you are prepared to put the time and effort into learning how to set it up and use it. It would be a commercially useful skill to have if you work in IT, so it is not a waste of time for people who want to have this sort of career. On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hello everybody, > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Rene > > > > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] IMHO you would be better off doing a scratch install on the windows machines along with the mods you want then dragging maps and etc in. I have both a win and linux box. I find the windows version easier to manage at times. Just make sure you back up your admins list. Crazy_One Jordan Jacobs wrote: When migrating 100s of servers, mods are not your friend. Other then that, if you have linux experience, you will have no problems. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs Fragnservers.com On 8/1/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[1] wrote: Sorry, but in the steam forum are so many kids who don't know what they do. I think the mailing list here is a better place to ask this question. Don't think I am a noob. I'm working with linux server since 7 years now. And for more than 1,5 years I have 2 CSS servers under linux. I only would like to know what experiences you have made when switching between linux and windows as OS. Thanks Rene -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von karumba Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 23:15 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? plz ask this in the steam forums & not here. thanks. Rene schrieb: what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? Windows or Linux and why? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux[5] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux[6] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux[7] ===References:=== 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. mailto:hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com 5. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux 6. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux 7. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] srcds 100tick drops to 25tick on +12players
Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:12:14 -0400 Von: "Jordan Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] srcds 100tick drops to 25tick on +12players > Remove Fps_max from the server configs, command line fps_max + > server.cfg fps_max = unhappy server. > > On 8/1/07, Maximilian (Mad Makz) Lotz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi guys, > > > > first of all, nice "mailing community" here :P, keep up the good work > :)! > > > > and now: > > > > i´m running 1x 22+1 Slot CS:S + 1x 16+1 Slot CSS:DM (+1=SourceTV and > both 100Tick) > > > > on the following machine: > > > > Processor: 1x AMD Opteron 1218 (2x 2,6Ghz) > > RAM: 4GB DDR2-667 > > OS: Debian 4 Etch (32bit) > > Kernel: 2.6.18-cks1 (1000Hz SMP Preempt) > > GCC: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) > > gLib: 2.3.6 (Stable) > > > > Now the problem: > > > > On both servers starts the Tick droping down as soon the 12th player > joined (from 100 to 80), Tick drops further down if more people join till the > server(s) are full and reach a Tick pending between 25-30 (50 on 16 player > DM) > > > > The drop is only there if the players are *alive*! > > > > Also the CPU load is high, but still under 80% (each core), it´s > arround 70-75%. (both servers full!) > > > > i tried now different Kernels from 6.18 till 6.23 and everywhere the > same. > > by compiling a 2.6.8 kernel i get a error message and compiling fails > (i´m not sure anymore how the message was, but i think it was something with > the SCSI parts) > > > > 1500Hz Kernel does have also problems, servers lagg like you would have > a ping of 500+ and tick starts pending between 80 & 100 (1 > player+SourceTV). > > I also found no reason for that :( > > > > also it doesn´t matter wich server is on, happens on DM alone and > "normal" alon $ on both running together! > > > > > > Start lines for the servers are: > > > > For the *Normal* one: > > "-port 27100 +map de_aztec +maxplayers 23 +fps_max 0 -tickrate 100" > > > > For the DM: > > "-port 27200 +map de_aztec +maxplayers 17 +fps_max 0 -tickrate 100" > > > > Both servers do have "fps_max 600" in their server cfg´s! > > > > If needed i´ll mail the full cfg´s here! > > > > Also theý´re running with the latest update (August 1, 2007) > > > > Hope somone does have a idea, cause it´s unplayable and our Players > leave :( > > > > Thanks in advice & sorry for bad english! > > > > _Makz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! > > Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > > > > -- > > Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? > > Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- really thanks for fast reply! but it didn´t solved any Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help
Dont forget DragonFly... =) Well, if they just say. "This will be released on FreeBSD REL-X". Then everyone knows what to run. The choice of FreeBSD is quite simple, since it is the one with the largest user base. It is within FreeBSD policy that a binary should be runable during every mayor version of the OS. And if they decide todo so I would recommend them to start at REL-7 that will be released "any day now". Then they dont have to worry too much for at least 3 years until REL-9 is due and REL-7 goes unsupported. Recent tests also prove that CURRENT (which will become REL-7) is faster and scales better than Linux. Especially on larger SMP systems. Linux did have the advantage during REL-5 and REL-6, but much work have been done to make it more competitive and have now passed on some real life tests. Like MySQL tests or network speed tests. And dont forget the most important part... FreeBSD doesnt need to recompile the kernel to change the HZ-value!!! ;p /Bjorn On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, [UTF-8] OndÅ^Yej HoÅ¡ek wrote: > FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin... and I don't speak of the historical > BSDs. > > Sure, no more worries. :-P > > I do agree that it sucks to support hundreds of systems with different > versions of all sorts of libraries, but I bet there are people in the > BSD camps who are up for more bleeding edge stuff, while others rather > stay conservative with yesterday's C library. What does this give you? > Absolutely the same situation as the bulk of Linux distributions: > different versions of everything. > > With Linux, at least the kernel is more or less the same. > > ~~ Ondra > > P.S. I doubt BSD binaries are worth it until Linux support is > more-than-decent, as Linux has a /slightly/ larger userbase. Fixing > Linux should therefore be a higher priority than getting out > one-quarter-broken binaries for yet another platform. > > On 01.08.07 16:34 Uhr, kama wrote: > > Wouldnt that be sweet? No more worries about different distributions... ;p > > > > /Bjorn > > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: > > > > > >> Are BSD binaries an option, Alfred? > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:15 PM > >> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help > >> > >> > >> > >>> Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, NOT > >>> at being production servers. You would be much better served by having > >>> the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. > >>> > >>> We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and we > >>> have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. > >>> > >>> - Alfred > >>> > >>> tsuehpsyde wrote: > >>> > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Alfred, > > I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real > contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or > takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, > can we get some > sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or > configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take > a back > seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year > or so > ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a > vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on > the > right track. > > These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by > Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: > > 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and > deployment? > > 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in > this > platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the > kernel's .config file? > > 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, > etc.) are > used? > > Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, > considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the > game. I > don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my > servers to > keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are > doing, > but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my > ability to > renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers > spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, > and I (as well as > other Source administrators) would really appreciate having it fixed. > It > appears on my servers when two game server processes are set as -20. > However, with one set to -20 and the other left at 0, it's fine. > Again, this fixes/breaks with updates on and off and is sort of > frustrating s
Re: [hlds_linux] srcds 100tick drops to 25tick on +12players
Remove Fps_max from the server configs, command line fps_max + server.cfg fps_max = unhappy server. On 8/1/07, Maximilian (Mad Makz) Lotz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi guys, > > first of all, nice "mailing community" here :P, keep up the good work :)! > > and now: > > i´m running 1x 22+1 Slot CS:S + 1x 16+1 Slot CSS:DM (+1=SourceTV and both > 100Tick) > > on the following machine: > > Processor: 1x AMD Opteron 1218 (2x 2,6Ghz) > RAM: 4GB DDR2-667 > OS: Debian 4 Etch (32bit) > Kernel: 2.6.18-cks1 (1000Hz SMP Preempt) > GCC: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) > gLib: 2.3.6 (Stable) > > Now the problem: > > On both servers starts the Tick droping down as soon the 12th player joined > (from 100 to 80), Tick drops further down if more people join till the > server(s) are full and reach a Tick pending between 25-30 (50 on 16 player DM) > > The drop is only there if the players are *alive*! > > Also the CPU load is high, but still under 80% (each core), it´s arround > 70-75%. (both servers full!) > > i tried now different Kernels from 6.18 till 6.23 and everywhere the same. > by compiling a 2.6.8 kernel i get a error message and compiling fails (i´m > not sure anymore how the message was, but i think it was something with the > SCSI parts) > > 1500Hz Kernel does have also problems, servers lagg like you would have a > ping of 500+ and tick starts pending between 80 & 100 (1 player+SourceTV). > I also found no reason for that :( > > also it doesn´t matter wich server is on, happens on DM alone and "normal" > alon $ on both running together! > > > Start lines for the servers are: > > For the *Normal* one: > "-port 27100 +map de_aztec +maxplayers 23 +fps_max 0 -tickrate 100" > > For the DM: > "-port 27200 +map de_aztec +maxplayers 17 +fps_max 0 -tickrate 100" > > Both servers do have "fps_max 600" in their server cfg´s! > > If needed i´ll mail the full cfg´s here! > > Also theý´re running with the latest update (August 1, 2007) > > Hope somone does have a idea, cause it´s unplayable and our Players leave :( > > Thanks in advice & sorry for bad english! > > _Makz > > > > > > > -- > Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! > Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer > > -- > Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? > Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You are right. And it is also not the "start a flame war" mailing list. As you can see, many people agree with me. And for the record, my server is highly rated and constantly full, so, nice try anyway. Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Play on your own damn servers then sheesh This isn't the "STEAM Cry about how unfairly server operators treat us" mailing list is it? And if you have to play on other peoples servers because nobody is on YOUR servers, then maybe you ought to take a look in the mirror 1st, before telling others how to run their servers. It seems totally nonsensical for 1 server operator to tell another server operator how they should run THEIR servers. Especially since, if for whatever reason, anything a server operator does that is perceived to be "bad" will only serve to drive players away, and more likely onto your servers, if they are so much better than the competition. On 8/1/07, Hell Master wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential for > abuse > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect to. > > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your > other servers. > > I am glad this feature is no longer available. > > > > > Whisper wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Some of us do run multiple identical servers. > > Dust2 > Office > Dust2/Office > DeathMatch > DeathMatch War Maps > GunGame > Popular Maps > Fun Maps > > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to > some > other GSP's > > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free data > usage for clients from a specific ISP. > > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful > of > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50, > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. > > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical > servers > > I > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server > when > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have > free > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and > simply > > > joins > > > > server 2? > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: > > > > > > > >> -- > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > >> > > > >> Hello everybody, > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I > > > search > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of > our > > > other > > > >> server is free. > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move > > to > > > the > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > > >> @+ > > > >> Hervé > > > >> _ > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : > analyse, > > > news, > > > >> coulisses A découvrir ! > > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > > >> -- > > > >> > > > >> ___ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >> please visit: > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ >
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
When migrating 100s of servers, mods are not your friend. Other then that, if you have linux experience, you will have no problems. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs Fragnservers.com On 8/1/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, but in the steam forum are so many kids who don't know what they do. > I think the mailing list here is a better place to ask this question. > > Don't think I am a noob. I'm working with linux server since 7 years now. > And for more than 1,5 years I have 2 CSS servers under linux. > > I only would like to know what experiences you have made when switching > between linux and windows as OS. > > Thanks Rene > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von karumba > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 23:15 > An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? > > plz ask this in the steam forums & not here. > thanks. > > Rene schrieb: > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] srcds 100tick drops to 25tick on +12players
hi guys, first of all, nice "mailing community" here :P, keep up the good work :)! and now: i´m running 1x 22+1 Slot CS:S + 1x 16+1 Slot CSS:DM (+1=SourceTV and both 100Tick) on the following machine: Processor: 1x AMD Opteron 1218 (2x 2,6Ghz) RAM: 4GB DDR2-667 OS: Debian 4 Etch (32bit) Kernel: 2.6.18-cks1 (1000Hz SMP Preempt) GCC: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) gLib: 2.3.6 (Stable) Now the problem: On both servers starts the Tick droping down as soon the 12th player joined (from 100 to 80), Tick drops further down if more people join till the server(s) are full and reach a Tick pending between 25-30 (50 on 16 player DM) The drop is only there if the players are *alive*! Also the CPU load is high, but still under 80% (each core), it´s arround 70-75%. (both servers full!) i tried now different Kernels from 6.18 till 6.23 and everywhere the same. by compiling a 2.6.8 kernel i get a error message and compiling fails (i´m not sure anymore how the message was, but i think it was something with the SCSI parts) 1500Hz Kernel does have also problems, servers lagg like you would have a ping of 500+ and tick starts pending between 80 & 100 (1 player+SourceTV). I also found no reason for that :( also it doesn´t matter wich server is on, happens on DM alone and "normal" alon $ on both running together! Start lines for the servers are: For the *Normal* one: "-port 27100 +map de_aztec +maxplayers 23 +fps_max 0 -tickrate 100" For the DM: "-port 27200 +map de_aztec +maxplayers 17 +fps_max 0 -tickrate 100" Both servers do have "fps_max 600" in their server cfg´s! If needed i´ll mail the full cfg´s here! Also theý´re running with the latest update (August 1, 2007) Hope somone does have a idea, cause it´s unplayable and our Players leave :( Thanks in advice & sorry for bad english! _Makz -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
AW: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
Sorry, but in the steam forum are so many kids who don't know what they do. I think the mailing list here is a better place to ask this question. Don't think I am a noob. I'm working with linux server since 7 years now. And for more than 1,5 years I have 2 CSS servers under linux. I only would like to know what experiences you have made when switching between linux and windows as OS. Thanks Rene -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von karumba Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 23:15 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? plz ask this in the steam forums & not here. thanks. Rene schrieb: > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > Windows or Linux and why? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Linux Source Dedicated Server Update Available
Updates to the Linux Source Dedicated Server are now available. To receive them, run hldsupdatetool The following changes are included: - Fixed an intermittent crash on startup - Fixed round restart hitches Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
plz ask this in the steam forums & not here. thanks. Rene schrieb: what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? Windows or Linux and why? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
I run a windows server (SactoBox) and I have to say that it doesn't require a lot of technical expertise to run it or keep it going though there's pretty much no way to smoothly automate anything. I have some startup batch files and a wait program to keeping everything running, some regedit's to auto-login, and it works ok, but in no way is it elegant. If you spend some money on fire-daemon or use OGSWatcher you can get it automated but there are downsides to that too. I have a pocket full of windows certifications and it still took a while to get it tuned--not that you need a cert. to do it--but that it takes a while to get it right given your server configuration and connection properties. On Windows, automatic updates are a pain and I have to keep some services disabled and re-enable them when running updates (which you had better do frequently on a Windows box) and the antivirus can be problematic as well for the same reasons. There's also false positives on the WGA if you try to turn off too many windows services (in regards to optimizing resources/performance) and you have to let Big-Brother watch a little and decide if you can keep running windows or not. I started out on windows, as it's my area of expertise, but I did consider using Linux (mainly because it's free) but, to be honest, I wasn't feeling up to the learning curve and just wanted to get my server running. Given all the hassles and limitations, primarily with getting it to run without intervention, I'd probably try Linux if I had it to do over again. I'd recommend using windows if you're more on the novice end of the novice-expert continuum AND you're main interest is in playing on your server AND you're not much interested in digging in to os configuration stuff. You'll find a lot of complete walkthroughs on the windows side and people that want to try and help. Given my novice in Linux (I've only worked with configuring some Linux-based firewalls) my experience has been that there aren't many walkthroughs and you'll have to do a lot more learning-per-task than you would under windows. I've also experienced that linux help tends to be more of the "go there, read that, figure it out, come back, and post your next question" and it can be a little more challenging to make progress. There are a lot of choices of Linux distros that will have to be weighed and there have been some outstanding Linux performance issues with source that you'd have to consider as well. (Can they get it fixed? When?) As you're at the beginning, I think you'd probably have more fun getting it working under Linux but it will be more work/learning. Server performance probably won't be too different given identical hardware but I haven't seen any direct comparison here to confirm that. (I would really like that info if someone can point me to it. Also processor cache level impact to performance in source if it's out there) Have fun and good luck!!! Rick (SactoBox.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rene Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:48 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: AW: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? Yes I know that, but where should I ask? The Windows mailing list is not better. So please stop answering so stupid and give me a recommendation if you have tried both OS (Linux and Windows). I already have two servers running on linux but the development of CSS on linux sucks. And I have no experience how it will be running CSS on Windows. Thanks Rene -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Vlad (e-Plutonia Inc.) Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 18:15 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. On 8/1/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Heh > > You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list > > M I wonder what people will say?? hm > > For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote > for guns to actually be well regulated. :) > > On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Rene > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
There are so many things you can do with Linux that either you can't do with Windows, or you have to pay an arm and a leg for professional software to get it done. Linux scripting together with cron allows you to fully automate so many things, simply and cleanly. Linux shell scripting is much more powerful and flexible than the equivalent batch scripting in Windows. With Linux you have the power to know exactly what is running on your server, and it is pretty simple to trim off the fat and run only exactly what you need. With Windows that is either difficult, or impossible, especially when it comes to os components (try uninstalling IE or Outlook Express...). My experience with Windows and Linux is with HLDS. When I switched to Linux, I was able to more than double my sv_maxupdaterate. The only reason I can guess for this is that Windows is attaching some kind of bulky header to each packet, and if this is the case, then the same performance improvement should apply to SRCDS as well. I run servers on a home cable connection, so I am much more concerned with bandwidth usage than a professional server operator might be, but I would still think that even a professional server operator would find lower bandwidth usage a good thing. Drek Colin Silcock wrote: Yep Linux, but take some time getting it right. As I understand it kernel config and version is pretty vital to getting a good server going. Have fun :) Colin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Jacobs Sent: 01 August 2007 18:01 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? Ive used FreeBSD and Windows, I would recommend *nix hands down. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs FragnServers.com On 8/1/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes I know that, but where should I ask? The Windows mailing list is not better. So please stop answering so stupid and give me a recommendation if you have tried both OS (Linux and Windows). I already have two servers running on linux but the development of CSS on linux sucks. And I have no experience how it will be running CSS on Windows. Thanks Rene -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Vlad (e-Plutonia Inc.) Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 18:15 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. On 8/1/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Heh You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list M I wonder what people will say?? hm For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote for guns to actually be well regulated. :) On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello everybody, what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? Windows or Linux and why? Thanks in advance. Rene -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Vlad Fadyeyev e-Plutonia Inc. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
Yep Linux, but take some time getting it right. As I understand it kernel config and version is pretty vital to getting a good server going. Have fun :) Colin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Jacobs Sent: 01 August 2007 18:01 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? Ive used FreeBSD and Windows, I would recommend *nix hands down. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs FragnServers.com On 8/1/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes I know that, but where should I ask? > The Windows mailing list is not better. > > So please stop answering so stupid and give me a recommendation if you have > tried both OS (Linux and Windows). > > I already have two servers running on linux but the development of CSS on > linux sucks. > And I have no experience how it will be running CSS on Windows. > > Thanks Rene > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Vlad > (e-Plutonia Inc.) > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 18:15 > An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? > > Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. > > On 8/1/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Heh > > > > You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list > > > > M I wonder what people will say?? hm > > > > For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote > > for guns to actually be well regulated. :) > > > > On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Rene > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > Vlad Fadyeyev > e-Plutonia Inc. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
Ive used FreeBSD and Windows, I would recommend *nix hands down. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs FragnServers.com On 8/1/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes I know that, but where should I ask? > The Windows mailing list is not better. > > So please stop answering so stupid and give me a recommendation if you have > tried both OS (Linux and Windows). > > I already have two servers running on linux but the development of CSS on > linux sucks. > And I have no experience how it will be running CSS on Windows. > > Thanks Rene > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Vlad > (e-Plutonia Inc.) > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 18:15 > An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? > > Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. > > On 8/1/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Heh > > > > You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list > > > > M I wonder what people will say?? hm > > > > For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote > > for guns to actually be well regulated. :) > > > > On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Rene > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > Vlad Fadyeyev > e-Plutonia Inc. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help
"paid directly" is a key word, theres little to no obligation. Which makes things potentially haywire. On 8/1/07, Jordan Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Valve doesn't get paid DIRECTLY for this, but because of the HUGE > number of people that login to steam, they get to push all of their > games to the continued userbase as well as take a cut of others game. > > It is in valves best interest to continue CS, CSS for as long as possible. > > -- > Jordan Jacobs > FragnServers.com > <3 FreeBSD > > On 8/1/07, Vlad (e-Plutonia Inc.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How hard is it to fix a server side for a freaking gaming server. This > > isn't restructuring the entire freaking game. This has been going on > > for two years, I know valve as a company isn't getting paid for this, > > but I'd rather pay valve rather than see the thing in a shitty state. > > > > On 8/1/07, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin... and I don't speak of the historical > > > BSDs. > > > > > > Sure, no more worries. :-P > > > > > > I do agree that it sucks to support hundreds of systems with different > > > versions of all sorts of libraries, but I bet there are people in the > > > BSD camps who are up for more bleeding edge stuff, while others rather > > > stay conservative with yesterday's C library. What does this give you? > > > Absolutely the same situation as the bulk of Linux distributions: > > > different versions of everything. > > > > > > With Linux, at least the kernel is more or less the same. > > > > > > ~~ Ondra > > > > > > P.S. I doubt BSD binaries are worth it until Linux support is > > > more-than-decent, as Linux has a /slightly/ larger userbase. Fixing > > > Linux should therefore be a higher priority than getting out > > > one-quarter-broken binaries for yet another platform. > > > > > > On 01.08.07 16:34 Uhr, kama wrote: > > > > Wouldnt that be sweet? No more worries about different distributions... > > > > ;p > > > > > > > > /Bjorn > > > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Are BSD binaries an option, Alfred? > > > >> > > > >> - Original Message - > > > >> From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> To: > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:15 PM > > > >> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, > > > >>> NOT > > > >>> at being production servers. You would be much better served by having > > > >>> the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. > > > >>> > > > >>> We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and > > > >>> we > > > >>> have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. > > > >>> > > > >>> - Alfred > > > >>> > > > >>> tsuehpsyde wrote: > > > >>> > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Alfred, > > > > > > I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real > > > contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or > > > takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, > > > can we get some > > > sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or > > > configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take > > > a back > > > seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year > > > or so > > > ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a > > > vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on > > > the > > > right track. > > > > > > These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by > > > Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: > > > > > > 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and > > > deployment? > > > > > > 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in > > > this > > > platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the > > > kernel's .config file? > > > > > > 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, > > > etc.) are > > > used? > > > > > > Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, > > > considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the > > > game. I > > > don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my > > > servers to > > > keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are > > > doing, > > > but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my > > > ability to > > > renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers > > > spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, > > > and I (as well as > > > other Source administr
AW: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
Yes I know that, but where should I ask? The Windows mailing list is not better. So please stop answering so stupid and give me a recommendation if you have tried both OS (Linux and Windows). I already have two servers running on linux but the development of CSS on linux sucks. And I have no experience how it will be running CSS on Windows. Thanks Rene -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Vlad (e-Plutonia Inc.) Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. August 2007 18:15 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend? Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. On 8/1/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Heh > > You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list > > M I wonder what people will say?? hm > > For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote > for guns to actually be well regulated. :) > > On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Rene > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- Vlad Fadyeyev e-Plutonia Inc. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
I remember those servers, and i also remember where they redirected to. All looked like they had over 50 players playing and top count was something between 50-64. Good riddens i say. -ics LDuke kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I had someone request that I find a way around this restriction with a plugin. The person asking had FIFTY servers forwarding to one server. People like that are the reason that you can't forward a client's connection when you change servers or to another of your servers when one is full. On 8/1/07, tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Since the last update that restricted the server's ability to execute any commands on the client side, this feature is no longer something we can do. -tsuehpsyde SourceKills.com On 8/1/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential for abuse and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect to. I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your other servers. I am glad this feature is no longer available. Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Some of us do run multiple identical servers. Dust2 Office Dust2/Office DeathMatch DeathMatch War Maps GunGame Popular Maps Fun Maps Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to some other GSP's And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free data usage for clients from a specific ISP. There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful of servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50, 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical servers I probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server when connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have free slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. On 8/1/07, ics wrote: Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another server and just goes to play to somewhere else. -ics Wim Barelds kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and simply joins server 2? On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello everybody, We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I search the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our other server is free. Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move to the 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. Thanks' a lot for your response. @+ Hervé _ Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, news, coulisses… A découvrir ! http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- __
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] rofl. On a serious note, I just made the switch to CentOS and I do notice that overall, the game server is much smoother and holds the tick better. However, there is still an issue with the linux srcds that causes a hiccup in the middle of rounds. As you can see from other people, it's somewhat serious. :P I'm worried for using it as a match server now =/ Jordan Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or me stop drinking on the night Valve releases an update :) On 8/1/07, Vlad (e-Plutonia Inc.) wrote: > Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. > > On 8/1/07, Whisper wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Heh > > > > You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list > > > > M I wonder what people will say?? hm > > > > For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote > > for guns to actually be well regulated. :) > > > > On 8/2/07, Rene wrote: > > > > > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Rene > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > Vlad Fadyeyev > e-Plutonia Inc. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
Or me stop drinking on the night Valve releases an update :) On 8/1/07, Vlad (e-Plutonia Inc.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. > > On 8/1/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Heh > > > > You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list > > > > M I wonder what people will say?? hm > > > > For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote > > for guns to actually be well regulated. :) > > > > On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Rene > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- > Vlad Fadyeyev > e-Plutonia Inc. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help
How hard is it to fix a server side for a freaking gaming server. This isn't restructuring the entire freaking game. This has been going on for two years, I know valve as a company isn't getting paid for this, but I'd rather pay valve rather than see the thing in a shitty state. On 8/1/07, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin... and I don't speak of the historical > BSDs. > > Sure, no more worries. :-P > > I do agree that it sucks to support hundreds of systems with different > versions of all sorts of libraries, but I bet there are people in the > BSD camps who are up for more bleeding edge stuff, while others rather > stay conservative with yesterday's C library. What does this give you? > Absolutely the same situation as the bulk of Linux distributions: > different versions of everything. > > With Linux, at least the kernel is more or less the same. > > ~~ Ondra > > P.S. I doubt BSD binaries are worth it until Linux support is > more-than-decent, as Linux has a /slightly/ larger userbase. Fixing > Linux should therefore be a higher priority than getting out > one-quarter-broken binaries for yet another platform. > > On 01.08.07 16:34 Uhr, kama wrote: > > Wouldnt that be sweet? No more worries about different distributions... ;p > > > > /Bjorn > > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: > > > > > >> Are BSD binaries an option, Alfred? > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:15 PM > >> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help > >> > >> > >> > >>> Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, NOT > >>> at being production servers. You would be much better served by having > >>> the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. > >>> > >>> We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and we > >>> have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. > >>> > >>> - Alfred > >>> > >>> tsuehpsyde wrote: > >>> > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Alfred, > > I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real > contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or > takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, > can we get some > sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or > configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take > a back > seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year > or so > ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a > vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on > the > right track. > > These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by > Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: > > 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and > deployment? > > 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in > this > platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the > kernel's .config file? > > 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, > etc.) are > used? > > Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, > considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the > game. I > don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my > servers to > keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are > doing, > but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my > ability to > renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers > spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, > and I (as well as > other Source administrators) would really appreciate having it fixed. > It > appears on my servers when two game server processes are set as -20. > However, with one set to -20 and the other left at 0, it's fine. > Again, this fixes/breaks with updates on and off and is sort of > frustrating since > setting the process priority is written into my scripts, and I have to > remove it every time it breaks (and game server performance suffers > from > it). > > Thanks for your time, > > -tsuehpsyde > SourceKills.com > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- Vlad Fadyeyev e-Plutonia Inc. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linu
Re: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help
Valve doesn't get paid DIRECTLY for this, but because of the HUGE number of people that login to steam, they get to push all of their games to the continued userbase as well as take a cut of others game. It is in valves best interest to continue CS, CSS for as long as possible. -- Jordan Jacobs FragnServers.com <3 FreeBSD On 8/1/07, Vlad (e-Plutonia Inc.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How hard is it to fix a server side for a freaking gaming server. This > isn't restructuring the entire freaking game. This has been going on > for two years, I know valve as a company isn't getting paid for this, > but I'd rather pay valve rather than see the thing in a shitty state. > > On 8/1/07, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin... and I don't speak of the historical > > BSDs. > > > > Sure, no more worries. :-P > > > > I do agree that it sucks to support hundreds of systems with different > > versions of all sorts of libraries, but I bet there are people in the > > BSD camps who are up for more bleeding edge stuff, while others rather > > stay conservative with yesterday's C library. What does this give you? > > Absolutely the same situation as the bulk of Linux distributions: > > different versions of everything. > > > > With Linux, at least the kernel is more or less the same. > > > > ~~ Ondra > > > > P.S. I doubt BSD binaries are worth it until Linux support is > > more-than-decent, as Linux has a /slightly/ larger userbase. Fixing > > Linux should therefore be a higher priority than getting out > > one-quarter-broken binaries for yet another platform. > > > > On 01.08.07 16:34 Uhr, kama wrote: > > > Wouldnt that be sweet? No more worries about different distributions... ;p > > > > > > /Bjorn > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Are BSD binaries an option, Alfred? > > >> > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:15 PM > > >> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, NOT > > >>> at being production servers. You would be much better served by having > > >>> the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. > > >>> > > >>> We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and we > > >>> have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. > > >>> > > >>> - Alfred > > >>> > > >>> tsuehpsyde wrote: > > >>> > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Alfred, > > > > I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real > > contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or > > takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, > > can we get some > > sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or > > configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take > > a back > > seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year > > or so > > ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a > > vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on > > the > > right track. > > > > These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by > > Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: > > > > 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and > > deployment? > > > > 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in > > this > > platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the > > kernel's .config file? > > > > 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, > > etc.) are > > used? > > > > Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, > > considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the > > game. I > > don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my > > servers to > > keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are > > doing, > > but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my > > ability to > > renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers > > spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, > > and I (as well as > > other Source administrators) would really appreciate having it fixed. > > It > > appears on my servers when two game server processes are set as -20. > > However, with one set to -20 and the other left at 0, it's fine. > > Again, this fixes/breaks with updates on and off and is sort of > > frustrating since > > setting the process priority is written into my scripts, and I have to > > remove it e
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
Or me walk into a nightclub and convince everyone to stop drinking. On 8/1/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Heh > > You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list > > M I wonder what people will say?? hm > > For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote > for guns to actually be well regulated. :) > > On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Rene > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- Vlad Fadyeyev e-Plutonia Inc. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Heh You are asking this question on the HLDS Linux list M I wonder what people will say?? hm For my next trick, watch me go to a NRA meeting, and convince them to vote for guns to actually be well regulated. :) On 8/2/07, Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hello everybody, > > > > what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? > > Windows or Linux and why? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Rene > > > > -- > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] What would you recommend?
Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello everybody, what OS would you recommend for a CS Source Server? Windows or Linux and why? Thanks in advance. Rene -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #5691 - 1 msg
1. Digests are evil. I don't understand why people use them and I think they should be criminalized. It's not like modem connections are prevalent or even acceptable today and there is no other use for digests than to conserve bandwidth (since mail filtering is all too easy with mailing lists and digests break the threading of mailing lists). Valve's listmaster: could you please somehow disable the digest option? Thanks. 2. What the hell happened to 0x0A, the NEWLINE character? I mean, this is a beautiful piece of ASCII art, but I can't read it. ~~ Ondra On 01.08.07 17:00 Uhr, moi eux wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So we have nothing to do ?, one way with Many admin plugin ? may be ?> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 06:27:54 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #5691 - 1 msg> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > Send hlds_linux mailing list submissions to> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You can reach the person managing the list at> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of hlds_linux digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ? (tsuehpsyde)> > --__--__--> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:33:53 -0500> From: tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > --> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> Since the last update that restricted the server's ability to execute any> commands on the client side, this feature is no longer something we can do.> > -tsuehpsyde> SourceKills.com> > On 8/1/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > --> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself.> > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential for> > abuse> > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect to=> .> >> > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your> > other servers.> >> > I am glad this feature is no longer available.> >> >> >> >> > Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > --> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > Some of us do run multiple identical servers.> >> > Dust2> > Office> > Dust2/Office> > DeathMatch> > DeathMatch War Maps> > GunGame> > Popular Maps> > Fun Maps> >> > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to> > some> > other GSP's> >> > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more> > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free dat=> a> > usage for clients from a specific ISP.> >> > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful> > of> > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50=> ,> > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue.> >> > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote:> > >> > > --> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical> > servers> > > I> > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server> > when> > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have> > free> > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all.> > >> > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote:> > > >> > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another> > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else.> > > >> > > > -ics> > > >> > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti:> > > > > --> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and> > simply> > > > joins> > > > > server 2?> > > > >> > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> --> > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > > >>> > > > >> Hello everybody,> > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and => I> > > > search> > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of> > our> > > > other> > > > >> server is free.> > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player goin=> g> > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player mov=> e> > > to> > > > the> > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?.> > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response.> > > > >> @+> > > > >> Herv=E9> > > > >> _> > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star :> > analyse,> > > > news,> > > > >> coulisses=85 A d=E9couvrir !> > > > >> http://mich
Re: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin... and I don't speak of the historical BSDs. Sure, no more worries. :-P I do agree that it sucks to support hundreds of systems with different versions of all sorts of libraries, but I bet there are people in the BSD camps who are up for more bleeding edge stuff, while others rather stay conservative with yesterday's C library. What does this give you? Absolutely the same situation as the bulk of Linux distributions: different versions of everything. With Linux, at least the kernel is more or less the same. ~~ Ondra P.S. I doubt BSD binaries are worth it until Linux support is more-than-decent, as Linux has a /slightly/ larger userbase. Fixing Linux should therefore be a higher priority than getting out one-quarter-broken binaries for yet another platform. On 01.08.07 16:34 Uhr, kama wrote: Wouldnt that be sweet? No more worries about different distributions... ;p /Bjorn On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: Are BSD binaries an option, Alfred? - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, NOT at being production servers. You would be much better served by having the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and we have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. - Alfred tsuehpsyde wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alfred, I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, can we get some sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take a back seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year or so ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on the right track. These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and deployment? 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in this platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the kernel's .config file? 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, etc.) are used? Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the game. I don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my servers to keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are doing, but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my ability to renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, and I (as well as other Source administrators) would really appreciate having it fixed. It appears on my servers when two game server processes are set as -20. However, with one set to -20 and the other left at 0, it's fine. Again, this fixes/breaks with updates on and off and is sort of frustrating since setting the process priority is written into my scripts, and I have to remove it every time it breaks (and game server performance suffers from it). Thanks for your time, -tsuehpsyde SourceKills.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #5691 - 1 msg
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So we have nothing to do ?, one way with Many admin plugin ? may be ?> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 06:27:54 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #5691 - 1 msg> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > Send hlds_linux mailing list submissions to> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You can reach the person managing the list at> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of hlds_linux digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ? (tsuehpsyde)> > --__--__--> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:33:53 -0500> From: tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> > --> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> Since the last update that restricted the server's ability to execute any> commands on the client side, this feature is no longer something we can do.> > -tsuehpsyde> SourceKills.com> > On 8/1/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > --> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself.> > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential for> > abuse> > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect to=> .> >> > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your> > other servers.> >> > I am glad this feature is no longer available.> >> >> >> >> > Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > --> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > Some of us do run multiple identical servers.> >> > Dust2> > Office> > Dust2/Office> > DeathMatch> > DeathMatch War Maps> > GunGame> > Popular Maps> > Fun Maps> >> > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to> > some> > other GSP's> >> > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more> > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free dat=> a> > usage for clients from a specific ISP.> >> > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful> > of> > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50=> ,> > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue.> >> > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote:> > >> > > --> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical> > servers> > > I> > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server> > when> > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have> > free> > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all.> > >> > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote:> > > >> > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another> > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else.> > > >> > > > -ics> > > >> > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti:> > > > > --> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and> > simply> > > > joins> > > > > server 2?> > > > >> > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> --> > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > > >>> > > > >> Hello everybody,> > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and => I> > > > search> > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of> > our> > > > other> > > > >> server is free.> > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player goin=> g> > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player mov=> e> > > to> > > > the> > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?.> > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response.> > > > >> @+> > > > >> Herv=E9> > > > >> _> > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star :> > analyse,> > > > news,> > > > >> coulisses=85 A d=E9couvrir !> > > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/> > > > >> --> > > > >>> > > > >> ___> > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> > > archives,> > > > >> please visit:> > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > ___> > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > --> > > > >> > > > > ___> >
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have to agree that, while it's annoying to not have cexec anymore, it sure beats joining a server that says 30/32 and being redirected to an empty 10-man server because someone is running fake servers that look full to redirect people to their actually empty server. On 8/1/07, LDuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I had someone request that I find a way around this restriction with a > plugin. The person asking had FIFTY servers forwarding to one server. > People > like that are the reason that you can't forward a client's connection when > you change servers or to another of your servers when one is full. > > > On 8/1/07, tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Since the last update that restricted the server's ability to execute > any > > commands on the client side, this feature is no longer something we can > > do. > > > > -tsuehpsyde > > SourceKills.com > > > > On 8/1/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. > > > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential > > for > > > abuse > > > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect > > to. > > > > > > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of > your > > > other servers. > > > > > > I am glad this feature is no longer available. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Some of us do run multiple identical servers. > > > > > > Dust2 > > > Office > > > Dust2/Office > > > DeathMatch > > > DeathMatch War Maps > > > GunGame > > > Popular Maps > > > Fun Maps > > > > > > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to > > > some > > > other GSP's > > > > > > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources > > more > > > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free > > data > > > usage for clients from a specific ISP. > > > > > > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a > handful > > > of > > > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running > > 50, > > > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical > > > servers > > > > I > > > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office > server > > > when > > > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have > > > free > > > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is > another > > > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > > > > -- > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and > > > simply > > > > > joins > > > > > > server 2? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hello everybody, > > > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) > and > > I > > > > > search > > > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one > of > > > our > > > > > other > > > > > >> server is free. > > > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player > > going > > > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player > > move > > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > > > > >> @+ > > > > > >> Hervé > > > > > >> > _ > > > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : > > > analyse, > > > > > news, > > > > > >> coulisses… A découvrir ! > > > > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ___ > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > >> please visit: > > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help
Wouldnt that be sweet? No more worries about different distributions... ;p /Bjorn On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: > Are BSD binaries an option, Alfred? > > - Original Message - > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:15 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Alfred We Need Your Help > > > > Our linux platforms are aimed at being stable development platforms, NOT > > at being production servers. You would be much better served by having > > the guys on this list that run server farm chip in. > > > > We run Slackware 9.0 with a 2.6.21.5 kernel for the dev platform and we > > have Debian etch on a test machine. Both machines are SMP. > > > > - Alfred > > > > tsuehpsyde wrote: > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> Alfred, > >> > >> I don't mean to direct this straight to you, but you're the only real > >> contact within VALVe we have that actually gives us information or > >> takes our advice/suggestions on this mailing list. With that said, > >> can we get some > >> sort of straight forward answer as to the recommended platform or > >> configuration for SourceDS for Linux? I realize that Linux does take > >> a back > >> seat to Windows as far as SourceDS goes (look at the incident a year > >> or so > >> ago when VALVe released a linux update that would not even start in a > >> vanilla state), but some sort of input would at least help us get on > >> the > >> right track. > >> > >> These are the three core questions I would like to see answered by > >> Alfred or someone else directly from VALVe and not a third party: > >> > >> 1. What distribution of Linux does VALVe use for testing and > >> deployment? > >> > >> 2. What kernel version (and also patches if applicable) are used in > >> this > >> platform? Also, can we get the kernel configuration, or even the > >> kernel's .config file? > >> > >> 3. What other system packages and versions core to the OS (glibc, > >> etc.) are > >> used? > >> > >> Those three questions, I don't think, are asking a lot from VALVe, > >> considering the amount of time and money we put into hosting the > >> game. I > >> don't like the idea, but I'd down-grade packages as needed on my > >> servers to > >> keep things running smoothly. Also, I'm not sure *what* you guys are > >> doing, > >> but it seems that the updates are a back and forth game with my > >> ability to > >> renice my game server processes to -20 (if set, both game servers > >> spike to 99% CPU used). This is a core functionality to my servers, > >> and I (as well as > >> other Source administrators) would really appreciate having it fixed. > >> It > >> appears on my servers when two game server processes are set as -20. > >> However, with one set to -20 and the other left at 0, it's fine. > >> Again, this fixes/breaks with updates on and off and is sort of > >> frustrating since > >> setting the process priority is written into my scripts, and I have to > >> remove it every time it breaks (and game server performance suffers > >> from > >> it). > >> > >> Thanks for your time, > >> > >> -tsuehpsyde > >> SourceKills.com > >> -- > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I had someone request that I find a way around this restriction with a plugin. The person asking had FIFTY servers forwarding to one server. People like that are the reason that you can't forward a client's connection when you change servers or to another of your servers when one is full. On 8/1/07, tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Since the last update that restricted the server's ability to execute any > commands on the client side, this feature is no longer something we can > do. > > -tsuehpsyde > SourceKills.com > > On 8/1/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. > > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential > for > > abuse > > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect > to. > > > > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your > > other servers. > > > > I am glad this feature is no longer available. > > > > > > > > > > Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Some of us do run multiple identical servers. > > > > Dust2 > > Office > > Dust2/Office > > DeathMatch > > DeathMatch War Maps > > GunGame > > Popular Maps > > Fun Maps > > > > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to > > some > > other GSP's > > > > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources > more > > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free > data > > usage for clients from a specific ISP. > > > > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful > > of > > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running > 50, > > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. > > > > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical > > servers > > > I > > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server > > when > > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have > > free > > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > > > > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > > > -- > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and > > simply > > > > joins > > > > > server 2? > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > >> > > > > >> Hello everybody, > > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and > I > > > > search > > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of > > our > > > > other > > > > >> server is free. > > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player > going > > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player > move > > > to > > > > the > > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > > > >> @+ > > > > >> Hervé > > > > >> _ > > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : > > analyse, > > > > news, > > > > >> coulisses… A découvrir ! > > > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > > > >> -- > > > > >> > > > > >> ___ > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ___ > > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ___ > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list prefer
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Play on your own damn servers then sheesh This isn't the "STEAM Cry about how unfairly server operators treat us" mailing list is it? And if you have to play on other peoples servers because nobody is on YOUR servers, then maybe you ought to take a look in the mirror 1st, before telling others how to run their servers. It seems totally nonsensical for 1 server operator to tell another server operator how they should run THEIR servers. Especially since, if for whatever reason, anything a server operator does that is perceived to be "bad" will only serve to drive players away, and more likely onto your servers, if they are so much better than the competition. On 8/1/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential for > abuse > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect to. > > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your > other servers. > > I am glad this feature is no longer available. > > > > > Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Some of us do run multiple identical servers. > > Dust2 > Office > Dust2/Office > DeathMatch > DeathMatch War Maps > GunGame > Popular Maps > Fun Maps > > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to > some > other GSP's > > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free data > usage for clients from a specific ISP. > > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful > of > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50, > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. > > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical > servers > > I > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server > when > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have > free > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and > simply > > > joins > > > > server 2? > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: > > > > > > > >> -- > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > >> > > > >> Hello everybody, > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I > > > search > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of > our > > > other > > > >> server is free. > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move > > to > > > the > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > > >> @+ > > > >> Hervé > > > >> _ > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : > analyse, > > > news, > > > >> coulisses… A découvrir ! > > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > > >> -- > > > >> > > > >> ___ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >> please visit: > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preference
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Since the last update that restricted the server's ability to execute any commands on the client side, this feature is no longer something we can do. -tsuehpsyde SourceKills.com On 8/1/07, Hell Master <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. > But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential for > abuse > and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect to. > > I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your > other servers. > > I am glad this feature is no longer available. > > > > > Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Some of us do run multiple identical servers. > > Dust2 > Office > Dust2/Office > DeathMatch > DeathMatch War Maps > GunGame > Popular Maps > Fun Maps > > Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to > some > other GSP's > > And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more > effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free data > usage for clients from a specific ISP. > > There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful > of > servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50, > 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. > > On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical > servers > > I > > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server > when > > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have > free > > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and > simply > > > joins > > > > server 2? > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: > > > > > > > >> -- > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > >> > > > >> Hello everybody, > > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I > > > search > > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of > our > > > other > > > >> server is free. > > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going > > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move > > to > > > the > > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > > >> @+ > > > >> Hervé > > > >> _ > > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : > analyse, > > > news, > > > >> coulisses… A découvrir ! > > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > > >> -- > > > >> > > > >> ___ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >> please visit: > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > - > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > --
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I understand the need and have, in the past, used this method myself. But I have also been on the player side and have seen the potential for abuse and misuse. I want to connect to the server that _I_ want to connect to. I don't need you doing me any favors and redirecting me to one of your other servers. I am glad this feature is no longer available. Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Some of us do run multiple identical servers. Dust2 Office Dust2/Office DeathMatch DeathMatch War Maps GunGame Popular Maps Fun Maps Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to some other GSP's And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free data usage for clients from a specific ISP. There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful of servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50, 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical servers > I > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server when > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have free > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > On 8/1/07, ics wrote: > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > -ics > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and simply > > joins > > > server 2? > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux wrote: > > > > > >> -- > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > >> > > >> Hello everybody, > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I > > search > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our > > other > > >> server is free. > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move > to > > the > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > >> @+ > > >> Hervé > > >> _ > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, > > news, > > >> coulisses A découvrir ! > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > >> -- > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ___ > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > -- > ___ > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
I'm not saying that. I agree with you and I definitely either would not want to be redirected to another server if i plan to play on the one that i connected to But in a matter of 2 identical servers, this would not be a problem, unless you care about rank which in most cases, is not identical. Gladly there is no way to do this at the moment so we can connect and end up where we want, taken that there are free slots left. -ics Wim Barelds kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical servers I probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server when connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have free slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. On 8/1/07, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another server and just goes to play to somewhere else. -ics Wim Barelds kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and simply joins server 2? On 8/1/07, moi eux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello everybody, We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I search the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our other server is free. Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move to the 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. Thanks' a lot for your response. @+ Hervé _ Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, news, coulisses… A découvrir ! http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Some of us do run multiple identical servers. Dust2 Office Dust2/Office DeathMatch DeathMatch War Maps GunGame Popular Maps Fun Maps Thats just a sample of what we do, and we are not that big compared to some other GSP's And a redirection feature would help us utilise our server resources more effectively, especially when you host servers that provide quota free data usage for clients from a specific ISP. There are a few things that are not really issues when you run a handful of servers, but they do become rather large issues when you start running 50, 100, 400 Game Servers, then you have an issue. On 8/1/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical servers > I > probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server when > connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have free > slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. > > On 8/1/07, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > > > -ics > > > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and simply > > joins > > > server 2? > > > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> -- > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > >> > > >> Hello everybody, > > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I > > search > > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our > > other > > >> server is free. > > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going > > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move > to > > the > > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > > >> @+ > > >> Hervé > > >> _ > > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, > > news, > > >> coulisses… A découvrir ! > > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > > >> -- > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ___ > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > -- > ___ > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could you explain how this is a problem? Unless you have identical servers I probably wouldn't want to be redirected to your 24/7 cs_office server when connecting to your de_ map rotation server that claims to still have free slots but really doesn't have any free slots at all. On 8/1/07, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another > server and just goes to play to somewhere else. > > -ics > > Wim Barelds kirjoitti: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and simply > joins > > server 2? > > > > On 8/1/07, moi eux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> > >> Hello everybody, > >> We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I > search > >> the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our > other > >> server is free. > >> Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going > >> automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move to > the > >> 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > >> Thanks' a lot for your response. > >> @+ > >> Hervé > >> _ > >> Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, > news, > >> coulisses… A découvrir ! > >> http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > >> -- > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
Perhaps not. Maybe the player doesnt even know that there is another server and just goes to play to somewhere else. -ics Wim Barelds kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and simply joins server 2? On 8/1/07, moi eux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello everybody, We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I search the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our other server is free. Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move to the 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. Thanks' a lot for your response. @+ Hervé _ Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, news, coulisses… A découvrir ! http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
Bonjour moi, I'm also interested in a solution to do this. But ... There was a method using ManiAdminplugin. There was another using EventScript. Nowadays, there are none (as far as I know). Since you can't execute the "connect" command on a client, you can't redirect it. Le mercredi 1 août 2007 à 11:25:41, vous écriviez : > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hello everybody, > We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and > I search the best way to move a new player when a server is full to > one of our other server is free. > Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player > going automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player > move to the 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > Thanks a lot for your response. > @+ > Hervé > _ > Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : > analyse, news, coulisses A découvrir ! > http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > -- > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Cordialement, Rom1Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Id say the player sees server 1 is full on the server list and simply joins server 2? On 8/1/07, moi eux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hello everybody, > We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I search > the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our other > server is free. > Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going > automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move to the > 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. > Thanks' a lot for your response. > @+ > Hervé > _ > Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, news, > coulisses… A découvrir ! > http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Move a connection when a server is ful to on empty server ?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello everybody, We have 3 server with CSS (2 * 34 players and 1 * 24 players) and I search the best way to move a new player when a server is full to one of our other server is free. Explication: if the first server 34/01 is full the new player going automatically to the 34/02 and if the 34/02 is full the player move to the 24/01. Do you now the best way to do this?. Thanks’ a lot for your response. @+ Hervé _ Le blog Messenger de Michel, candidat de la Nouvelle Star : analyse, news, coulisses… A découvrir ! http://michel-nouvelle-star2007.spaces.live.com/ -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
