Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-26 Thread Blake Girardot 
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Markware Software Services <
markwaresoftw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all, if you need it, I have a Geoserver Instance not doing much at the
> moment that could be used. geoserver loves geoTiffs. It is trivial to set
> it up. Just a matter of dropping the Geotiff into a directory, configuring
> a layer and its ready to go.
>
> Its a 2TB 32Gb Ram Ubuntu Trusty Server with lots of bandwidth available.
>


This sounds good to me. In the mean time I have a TileStasch server set up
for testing/learning.

It sounds like the next step is just get one sample Skybox for Good GeoTiff
file for deloyment Mark.

There was a blog post that said downloads were offered in MBTile format as
well. I have no idea which would be easier to work with.

Can we get any random Skybox for Good GeoTiff to get started with?

Cheers,
Blake





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> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Blake Girardot 
> wrote:
>
>> Sign me up to help get the map tile server set up and running. I am
>> glad to get it set up and admin it to get started while workflow
>> shakes out.
>>
>> Disclaimer: I have no idea how to do either of the above, but I learn
>> fast.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Mikel Maron 
>> wrote:
>> > Hey
>> >
>> > A few notes from talking this through with Josh
>> >
>> > * Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery
>> > coordination process
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination
>> > * Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through
>> > tasking manager projects.
>> > * The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at
>> >
>> https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0
>> .
>> > We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation
>> wanted
>> > to use existing imagery.
>> > * At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up
>> tiles
>> > from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
>> >
>> > Hope that clears things up.
>> >
>> > Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for
>> good
>> > GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and
>> resolution.
>> >
>> > Best
>> > Mikel
>> >
>>
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Markware Software Services 
Hi all, if you need it, I have a Geoserver Instance not doing much at the
moment that could be used. geoserver loves geoTiffs. It is trivial to set
it up. Just a matter of dropping the Geotiff into a directory, configuring
a layer and its ready to go.

Its a 2TB 32Gb Ram Ubuntu Trusty Server with lots of bandwidth available.

Regards

Mark Cupitt

"If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence"

See me on Open Street Map <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mark_Cupitt>

See me on LinkedIn <http://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt>



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On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> Sign me up to help get the map tile server set up and running. I am
> glad to get it set up and admin it to get started while workflow
> shakes out.
>
> Disclaimer: I have no idea how to do either of the above, but I learn fast.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Mikel Maron 
> wrote:
> > Hey
> >
> > A few notes from talking this through with Josh
> >
> > * Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery
> > coordination process
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination
> > * Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through
> > tasking manager projects.
> > * The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at
> >
> https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0
> .
> > We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation
> wanted
> > to use existing imagery.
> > * At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up tiles
> > from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
> >
> > Hope that clears things up.
> >
> > Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for
> good
> > GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.
> >
> > Best
> > Mikel
> >
> >
> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > These are great news for HOT Activations.
> >
> > In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover
> in
> > West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res
> > imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to
> find
> > rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention
> > mapping in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the
> > epidemy. There are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no
> > high-res imagery.
> >
> > We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery
> > archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata
> for
> > this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
> >
> > regard
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > 
> > De : Michael Collinson 
> > À : Satoshi IIDA ; Pat Tressel 
> > Cc : hot 
> > Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
> > Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
> >
> > Hi Satoshi,
> >
> > Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement.
> I
> > am happy that:
> >
> > The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
> derived
> > from it.
> > The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data
> > into the OSM database.
> > The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change
> sets
> > is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT
> > projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > LWG
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
&g

Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Blake Girardot 
Sign me up to help get the map tile server set up and running. I am
glad to get it set up and admin it to get started while workflow
shakes out.

Disclaimer: I have no idea how to do either of the above, but I learn fast.

Cheers,
Blake

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
> Hey
>
> A few notes from talking this through with Josh
>
> * Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery
> coordination process
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination
> * Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through
> tasking manager projects.
> * The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at
> https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0.
> We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation wanted
> to use existing imagery.
> * At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up tiles
> from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
>
> Hope that clears things up.
>
> Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good
> GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.
>
> Best
> Mikel
>
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> These are great news for HOT Activations.
>
> In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in
> West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res
> imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find
> rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention
> mapping in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the
> epidemy. There are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no
> high-res imagery.
>
> We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery
> archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for
> this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
>
> regard
>
> Pierre
>
> ____________
> De : Michael Collinson 
> À : Satoshi IIDA ; Pat Tressel 
> Cc : hot 
> Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
> Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
>
> Hi Satoshi,
>
> Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I
> am happy that:
>
> The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data derived
> from it.
> The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data
> into the OSM database.
> The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change sets
> is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT
> projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .
>
>
> Mike
> LWG
>
>
>
> On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
>
> Are there any progress since the discussion?
>
>
>
> 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel :
>
> Josh --
>
> As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
> program.
>
> We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
> Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
> Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition
> that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
> imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.
>
>
> That's fantastic news!!
>
> Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
> communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
> bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
>
>
> This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
> "source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
>
>
> We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
> "source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
> "imagery_used" tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
> if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
> in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used"
> in JOSM with the same behavior as i

Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Pierre Béland 
Thanks Mikel,
Once imageries are available for the West Africa countries affected by the 
Ebola outbreak emergency, we could surely try these to help to the response. 
Pierre 

  De : Mikel Maron 
 À : Pierre Béland ; "m...@ayeltd.biz" ; 
Satoshi IIDA ; Pat Tressel  
Cc : hot ; "legal-t...@openstreetmap.org" 
 
 Envoyé le : Mardi 25 novembre 2014 16h56
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
Hey
A few notes from talking this through with Josh
* Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery 
coordination process 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination* Use of 
SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through tasking manager 
projects.* The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at 
https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0.
 We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation wanted 
to use existing imagery.* At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would 
need to set up tiles from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
Hope that clears things up.
Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good 
GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.
BestMikel  
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

   

  On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
   
 

 These are great news for HOT Activations.
In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in 
West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res 
imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find 
rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention mapping 
in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the epidemy. There 
are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no high-res imagery.

We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery 
archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for 
this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
regard   Pierre 

  De : Michael Collinson 
 À : Satoshi IIDA ; Pat Tressel  
Cc : hot  
 Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
 Hi Satoshi,
 
 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I am 
happy that:
 

   - The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data 
derived from it.
   - The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data 
into the OSM database.   
 
   - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change 
sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT 
projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .   
 
 
 Mike
 LWG
  


 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
  

  Hello,
 
  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
 
  Are there any progress since the discussion?
  
 

 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel :
 
 Josh --
 
  
  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good 
program. 
  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis Response 
situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox for 
Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition that changesets 
and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to 
OSM are attributed to Skybox.  
 
  That's fantastic news!!
 
  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the 
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole bunch 
of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
    
  
  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the 
"source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
   
 
  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to 
"source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added "imagery_used" 
tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate if the user 
switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does in that case.  
One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used" in JOSM with the 
same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but 
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can also check for 
a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of imagery.
 
   -- Pat
  
 
  
 
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-25 Thread Mikel Maron 
Hey
A few notes from talking this through with Josh
* Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery 
coordination process 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination* Use of 
SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through tasking manager 
projects.* The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at 
https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0.
 We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation wanted 
to use existing imagery.* At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would 
need to set up tiles from a downloaded GeoTIFF.
Hope that clears things up.
Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good 
GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.
BestMikel  
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron 

   

  On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
   
 

 These are great news for HOT Activations.
In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in 
West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res 
imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find 
rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention mapping 
in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the epidemy. There 
are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no high-res imagery.

We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery 
archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for 
this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
regard   Pierre 

  De : Michael Collinson 
 À : Satoshi IIDA ; Pat Tressel  
Cc : hot  
 Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
 Hi Satoshi,
 
 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I am 
happy that:
 

   - The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data 
derived from it.
   - The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data 
into the OSM database.   
 
   - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change 
sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT 
projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .   
 
 
 Mike
 LWG
  


 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
  

  Hello,
 
  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
 
  Are there any progress since the discussion?
  
 

 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel :
 
 Josh --
 
  
  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good 
program. 
  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis Response 
situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox for 
Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition that changesets 
and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to 
OSM are attributed to Skybox.  
 
  That's fantastic news!!
 
  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the 
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole bunch 
of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
    
  
  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the 
"source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
   
 
  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to 
"source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added "imagery_used" 
tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate if the user 
switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does in that case.  
One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used" in JOSM with the 
same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but 
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can also check for 
a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of imagery.
 
   -- Pat
  
 
  
 
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-23 Thread Pierre Béland 
These are great news for HOT Activations.
In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in 
West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res 
imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to find 
rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention mapping 
in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the epidemy. There 
are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no high-res imagery.

We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery 
archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for 
this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.
regard   Pierre 

  De : Michael Collinson 
 À : Satoshi IIDA ; Pat Tressel  
Cc : hot  
 Envoyé le : Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
   
 Hi Satoshi,
 
 Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I am 
happy that:
 

   - The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data 
derived from it.
   - The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data 
into the OSM database.   
 
   - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change 
sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT 
projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .   
 
 
 Mike
 LWG
  


 On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
  

  Hello,
 
  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
 
  Are there any progress since the discussion?
  
 

 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel :
 
 Josh --
 
  
  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good 
program. 
  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis Response 
situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox for 
Good imagery in any current HOT Activation, under the condition that changesets 
and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to 
OSM are attributed to Skybox.  
 
  That's fantastic news!!
 
  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the 
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole bunch 
of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
    
  
  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the 
"source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
   
 
  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to 
"source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added "imagery_used" 
tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate if the user 
switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does in that case.  
One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used" in JOSM with the 
same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but 
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can also check for 
a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of imagery.
 
   -- Pat
  
 
  
 
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-23 Thread Satoshi IIDA 
Hello Michael.

Thank you for efforts! And congrats! :)

> the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT projects
AFAIK, imagery are now released in geo-tiff format, so target area is very
limited.
It is very suitable for this context.

If they publish more broader area, and published in TMS or other format in
future,
we should consider such a situation.

At least now, I'm very happy to hear this statement.
Thanks again!



2014-11-22 16:52 GMT+09:00 Michael Collinson :

>  Hi Satoshi,
>
> Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I
> am happy that:
>
>
>- The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
>derived from it.
>- The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived
>data into the OSM database.
> - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or
>change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context
>of HOT projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .
>
>
> Mike
> LWG
>
> On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
>
>
>  Hello,
>
>  As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html
>
>  Are there any progress since the discussion?
>
>
>
> 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel :
>
>> Josh --
>>
>>   As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
>>>  program.
>>>
>>>  We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
>>> Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
>>> Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
>>> , under the
>>> condition that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for
>>> Good imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.
>>>
>>
>>  That's fantastic news!!
>>
>>  Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
>> communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
>> bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
>>
>>
>>>  This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as
>>> the "source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
>>>
>>
>>  We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
>> "source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
>> "imagery_used" tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
>> if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
>> in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used"
>> in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
>> keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
>> validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
>> a set of imagery.
>>
>>  -- Pat
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Michael Collinson 

Hi Satoshi,

Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. 
I am happy that:


 * The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
   derived from it.
 * The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived
   data into the OSM database.
 * The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or
   change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the
   context of HOT projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT
   under http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .


Mike
LWG


On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:


Hello,

As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

Are there any progress since the discussion?



2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel >:


Josh --

As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox
for Good
program.

We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in
Crisis Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly
authorizing usage of Skybox for Good imagery in any current
HOT Activation
, under the
condition that changesets and/or features that are derived
from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to OSM are
attributed to Skybox.


That's fantastic news!!

Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet
that's the communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe
to infer a whole bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)

This could, for example, include the method of attributing
Skybox as the "source", or a similar method deemed appropriate
by HOT.


We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down
to "source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
"imagery_used" tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be
accurate if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to
see what iD does in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be
good to add "imagery_used" in JOSM with the same behavior as iD,
just so they're consistent.  We'd keep adding source, but
imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task validators can
also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set
of imagery.

-- Pat




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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Satoshi IIDA 
Hello,

As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

Are there any progress since the discussion?



2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel :

> Josh --
>
> As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
>>  program.
>>
>> We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
>> Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
>> Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
>> , under the condition
>> that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
>> imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.
>>
>
> That's fantastic news!!
>
> Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
> communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
> bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)
>
>
>> This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
>> "source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
>>
>
> We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
> "source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
> "imagery_used" tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
> if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
> in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used"
> in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
> keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
> validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
> a set of imagery.
>
> -- Pat
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-21 Thread Pat Tressel 
Josh --

As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
>  program.
>
> We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
> Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
> Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
> , under the condition
> that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
> imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.
>

That's fantastic news!!

Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You?  I bet that's the
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)


> This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
> "source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.
>

We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
"source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
"imagery_used" tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used"
in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
a set of imagery.

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