[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Hi, I am fairly new to jQuery in general, so this question might have been answered somewhere along the way. I have a problem using the accordion plugin with the interface plugin. They don't interact, just including the interface.js file on the same page makes the accordion stop working. It appears the problem is on line 177 complete: settings.finished of the jquery.accordion.js file. When the interface is included the execution jumps to the interface file, when the interface file is not included the execution jumps to jQuery, animate. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Jason On Aug 30, 3:25 pm, Erin Doak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that people like the animation effects. I'm all for them. The problem is that if a menu/header is still in the opening animation process and the mouse is moved to a new menu/header item the new menu doesn't open at all - no matter how long one waits. That to me is a bug. Erin In the real world, things dont always happen instantly. A sliding door (like on Star Trek) opens with a whoosh. I am sure they could have built a door shield that was opened instantly rather than a whooshing door. Especially with their futuristic technology. However, people like the whoosh. It's possible to have it too long, like whosh. In which case you bump into the door with your nose ( i.e. Supermarket Doors) or whsh in which case it feels like the power it turned up too high, which is jarring. The perfect effect is timed to the Goldilocks principle. Not too quick, not too slow, not the instant the user puts their mouseover, not waiting too long to fire, not too much bounce, not too robot-like. It should be just-right. Glen On 8/30/07, Erin Doak mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion (and only my opinion) i think that it is kinda disturbing if we hover on one item and immediately if we hover on another item, the accordian doesn't open for the second item. I think that the interface should always be responsive to the user. If the mouse is over a menu it should activate. The animation is really just an 'extra'. The ability to navigate a web site by accessing the menu items is of paramount importance. One possible solution might be to offer either behavior as an option. Erin On 8/26/07, Jörn Zaefferer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ganeshji Marwaha schrieb: Jörn, this is fantastic... very re-usable as well.. I have a question/suggestion though... When i hover over one of the items, and before the animation completes if i hover over another item, the animation for the second item doesn't occur. Now, i will have to move my mouse out of that item and hover over it again to get the other item to expand. Is it something that can be fixed, or is it a known limitation that we will have to live by... Well, so far that was intended to be a feature, not a bug. The combination of long-running animations with hover is annoying, right. But it is also annoying when the accordion keeps changing on each mouse move, even when you didn't intend to get a different chunk. Fixing it isn't difficult, but it is difficult to decide what the right fix actually is. Your help is appreciated. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
In the real world, things dont always happen instantly. A sliding door (like on Star Trek) opens with a whoosh. I am sure they could have built a door shield that was opened instantly rather than a whooshing door. Especially with their futuristic technology. However, people like the whoosh. It's possible to have it too long, like whosh. In which case you bump into the door with your nose (i.e. Supermarket Doors) or whsh in which case it feels like the power it turned up too high, which is jarring. The perfect effect is timed to the Goldilocks principle. Not too quick, not too slow, not the instant the user puts their mouseover, not waiting too long to fire, not too much bounce, not too robot-like. It should be just-right. Glen On 8/30/07, Erin Doak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion (and only my opinion) i think that it is kinda disturbing if we hover on one item and immediately if we hover on another item, the accordian doesn't open for the second item. I think that the interface should always be responsive to the user. If the mouse is over a menu it should activate. The animation is really just an 'extra'. The ability to navigate a web site by accessing the menu items is of paramount importance. One possible solution might be to offer either behavior as an option. Erin On 8/26/07,* Jörn Zaefferer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ganeshji Marwaha schrieb: Jörn, this is fantastic... very re-usable as well.. I have a question/suggestion though... When i hover over one of the items, and before the animation completes if i hover over another item, the animation for the second item doesn't occur. Now, i will have to move my mouse out of that item and hover over it again to get the other item to expand. Is it something that can be fixed, or is it a known limitation that we will have to live by... Well, so far that was intended to be a feature, not a bug. The combination of long-running animations with hover is annoying, right. But it is also annoying when the accordion keeps changing on each mouse move, even when you didn't intend to get a different chunk. Fixing it isn't difficult, but it is difficult to decide what the right fix actually is. Your help is appreciated. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Firebug has a tendency to say that every once in a while. Restart Firefox and see if it still has the error. -- Brandon Aaron On 8/29/07, Erin Doak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's late and maybe I'm wrong but there seems to be an infinite recursion error (Firebug says too much recursion) when multiple dd tags are used inside a dt tag. Maybe the plugin was never meant to be used with this html structure. Example: http://rmip.com/accordion/ Top example has the problem. Error occurs on clicking a heading. The bottom doesn't. jQuery version is 1.1.4. Erin
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Hi Jorn, Well, so far that was intended to be a feature, not a bug. The combination of long-running animations with hover is annoying, right. But it is also annoying when the accordion keeps changing on each mouse move, even when you didn't intend to get a different chunk. Fixing it isn't difficult, but it is difficult to decide what the right fix actually is. Your help is appreciated. In my Inverse Accordion script, I'm caching last hovered item. So, when animation is finished, I run animation again on last hovered element if mouse is still over it. Inverted accordion worked on same way as your for some time. After I posted my script, guys from apple.com implemented my solution. Conclusion: apple.com guys are on out list! -- Dragan Krstić krdr http://krdr.ebloggy.com/
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
The hover bug in the home page is not an actual MooTools bug. It has to do with the layout of the page. There's a demo at: http://demos.mootools.net/Fx.Elements that you won't see the problem. :). -Olmo M. On Aug 26, 5:36 pm, Ganeshji Marwaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion (and only my opinion) i think that it is kinda disturbing if we hover on one item and immediately if we hover on another item, the accordian doesn't open for the second item. If you look at the mootools.net home page, you see the kwick(horizontal acoordian). I am working on something like that. I am facing the same problem there as well. But in the mootools site, if you hover from the left end to the right end fast, you could see that the intermediate items partially animate... As far as i know this can be solved using the stop() method in fx. But the stop() method is available only as part of the interface's animation extension. John has promised that as part of the core in 1.2 though. So, again, in my opinion, i would favor an approach where if we hover over one item and then immediately if we hover over the other item before the animation of first is complete, then the animation of the first item should be stopped in the middle and the second animation should start. That would be ideal. But i am not sure how easy or difficult it is. I am keen and willing to do any help that might be required. -GTG On 8/26/07, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ganeshji Marwaha schrieb: Jörn, this is fantastic... very re-usable as well.. I have a question/suggestion though... When i hover over one of the items, and before the animation completes if i hover over another item, the animation for the second item doesn't occur. Now, i will have to move my mouse out of that item and hover over it again to get the other item to expand. Is it something that can be fixed, or is it a known limitation that we will have to live by... Well, so far that was intended to be a feature, not a bug. The combination of long-running animations with hover is annoying, right. But it is also annoying when the accordion keeps changing on each mouse move, even when you didn't intend to get a different chunk. Fixing it isn't difficult, but it is difficult to decide what the right fix actually is. Your help is appreciated. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Brian Cherne schrieb: Jörn, how hard would it be to incorporate hoverIntent? It would be extremely easy if hoverIntent were implemented as a custom event. I guess adding support for that within hoverIntent is very easy, so thats the approach I'd prefer. I'll see what can be done about that. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Jörn Zaefferer schrieb: Brian Cherne schrieb: Jörn, how hard would it be to incorporate hoverIntent? It would be extremely easy if hoverIntent were implemented as a custom event. I guess adding support for that within hoverIntent is very easy, so thats the approach I'd prefer. I'll see what can be done about that. Gah. I'm a bit confused this evening. I'd like to use hoverIntent just by binding the event, I don't even need the mouseout callback: $someElement.bind(hoverIntent, handler); Any idea how that could be implemented? -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Jörn, this is fantastic... very re-usable as well.. I have a question/suggestion though... When i hover over one of the items, and before the animation completes if i hover over another item, the animation for the second item doesn't occur. Now, i will have to move my mouse out of that item and hover over it again to get the other item to expand. Is it something that can be fixed, or is it a known limitation that we will have to live by... -GTG On 8/25/07, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Killpatrick schrieb: Jörn, happy to have this, thx! Question: is it possible to set the height of individual accordion panels? Perhaps that goes against the grain of an accordion's bottom edge staying in place, but in my use case it would be ok if the bottom moved up and down as the user moved through the panels. I have some panels with a bunch of content, which would have scrollbars appear (fine), but some of the panels have very little content and in this case I'd like to prevent a big gob of whitespace at the bottom of them, by tweaking the height for that panel a bit. Thanks for bringing this up. I need a bit more math to support that together with the new animation system. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Ganeshji Marwaha schrieb: Jörn, this is fantastic... very re-usable as well.. I have a question/suggestion though... When i hover over one of the items, and before the animation completes if i hover over another item, the animation for the second item doesn't occur. Now, i will have to move my mouse out of that item and hover over it again to get the other item to expand. Is it something that can be fixed, or is it a known limitation that we will have to live by... Well, so far that was intended to be a feature, not a bug. The combination of long-running animations with hover is annoying, right. But it is also annoying when the accordion keeps changing on each mouse move, even when you didn't intend to get a different chunk. Fixing it isn't difficult, but it is difficult to decide what the right fix actually is. Your help is appreciated. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
In my opinion (and only my opinion) i think that it is kinda disturbing if we hover on one item and immediately if we hover on another item, the accordian doesn't open for the second item. If you look at the mootools.net home page, you see the kwick(horizontal acoordian). I am working on something like that. I am facing the same problem there as well. But in the mootools site, if you hover from the left end to the right end fast, you could see that the intermediate items partially animate... As far as i know this can be solved using the stop() method in fx. But the stop() method is available only as part of the interface's animation extension. John has promised that as part of the core in 1.2 though. So, again, in my opinion, i would favor an approach where if we hover over one item and then immediately if we hover over the other item before the animation of first is complete, then the animation of the first item should be stopped in the middle and the second animation should start. That would be ideal. But i am not sure how easy or difficult it is. I am keen and willing to do any help that might be required. -GTG On 8/26/07, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ganeshji Marwaha schrieb: Jörn, this is fantastic... very re-usable as well.. I have a question/suggestion though... When i hover over one of the items, and before the animation completes if i hover over another item, the animation for the second item doesn't occur. Now, i will have to move my mouse out of that item and hover over it again to get the other item to expand. Is it something that can be fixed, or is it a known limitation that we will have to live by... Well, so far that was intended to be a feature, not a bug. The combination of long-running animations with hover is annoying, right. But it is also annoying when the accordion keeps changing on each mouse move, even when you didn't intend to get a different chunk. Fixing it isn't difficult, but it is difficult to decide what the right fix actually is. Your help is appreciated. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Jörn, how hard would it be to incorporate hoverIntent? Brian. On 8/26/07, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ganeshji Marwaha schrieb: Jörn, this is fantastic... very re-usable as well.. I have a question/suggestion though... When i hover over one of the items, and before the animation completes if i hover over another item, the animation for the second item doesn't occur. Now, i will have to move my mouse out of that item and hover over it again to get the other item to expand. Is it something that can be fixed, or is it a known limitation that we will have to live by... Well, so far that was intended to be a feature, not a bug. The combination of long-running animations with hover is annoying, right. But it is also annoying when the accordion keeps changing on each mouse move, even when you didn't intend to get a different chunk. Fixing it isn't difficult, but it is difficult to decide what the right fix actually is. Your help is appreciated. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Jack Killpatrick schrieb: Jörn, happy to have this, thx! Question: is it possible to set the height of individual accordion panels? Perhaps that goes against the grain of an accordion's bottom edge staying in place, but in my use case it would be ok if the bottom moved up and down as the user moved through the panels. I have some panels with a bunch of content, which would have scrollbars appear (fine), but some of the panels have very little content and in this case I'd like to prevent a big gob of whitespace at the bottom of them, by tweaking the height for that panel a bit. Thanks for bringing this up. I need a bit more math to support that together with the new animation system. -- Jörn
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
wooot, Jörn, that's slick, bravo ! _ From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jörn Zaefferer Sent: vendredi 24 août 2007 23:03 To: jQuery Discussion. Subject: [jQuery] Release: Accordion 1.5 I'm happy to present you a new release of my Accordion menu plugin for jQuery. Thanks to some essential help from John Resig on animations, this may be the first release that is actually worth its code. And its the last release as a standalone plugin (stay tuned). If you are already using the plugin: An update is highly recommended. Otherwise, why don't you give it a try? Plugin Page and Documentation: http://bassistance.de/jquery-plugins/jquery-plugin-accordion/ Demo: http://jquery.bassistance.de/accordion/ Notable changes from the last release: * Option navigation offers simplest state-saving ever, by activating elements based on the current location * Option autoheight eases the accordion setup by calculating the largest chunk and setting that as the height for all other chunks * Option animated eases animation setup and provides smooth and flawless animations. Using the easing plugin you can replace the default slide animation with bounceslide and easeslide. Additional animations can be added as plugins to jQuery.Accordion.Animations Have fun! Jörn Zaefferer Ce message Envoi est certifié sans virus connu. Analyse effectuée par AVG. Version: 7.5.484 / Base de données virus: 269.12.4/969 - Date: 23/08/2007 16:04
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Great job Jörn! I see you got my wizard implementation in there...your code is of course super slick compared to mine! Love the new animations. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Jörn Zaefferer To: jQuery Discussion. Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: [jQuery] Release: Accordion 1.5 I'm happy to present you a new release of my Accordion menu plugin for jQuery. Thanks to some essential help from John Resig on animations, this may be the first release that is actually worth its code. And its the last release as a standalone plugin (stay tuned). If you are already using the plugin: An update is highly recommended. Otherwise, why don't you give it a try? Plugin Page and Documentation: http://bassistance.de/jquery-plugins/jquery-plugin-accordion/ Demo: http://jquery.bassistance.de/accordion/ Notable changes from the last release: a.. Option navigation offers simplest state-saving ever, by activating elements based on the current location b.. Option autoheight eases the accordion setup by calculating the largest chunk and setting that as the height for all other chunks c.. Option animated eases animation setup and provides smooth and flawless animations. Using the easing plugin you can replace the default slide animation with bounceslide and easeslide. Additional animations can be added as plugins to jQuery.Accordion.Animations Have fun! Jörn Zaefferer
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Sweet, Jörn. It looks great! On 8/24/07, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm happy to present you a new release of my Accordion menu plugin for jQuery. Thanks to some essential help from John Resig on animations, this
[jQuery] Re: Release: Accordion 1.5
Jörn, happy to have this, thx! Question: is it possible to set the height of individual accordion panels? Perhaps that goes against the grain of an accordion's bottom edge staying in place, but in my use case it would be ok if the bottom moved up and down as the user moved through the panels. I have some panels with a bunch of content, which would have scrollbars appear (fine), but some of the panels have very little content and in this case I'd like to prevent a big gob of whitespace at the bottom of them, by tweaking the height for that panel a bit. Thanks, Jack Jörn Zaefferer wrote: I'm happy to present you a new release of my Accordion menu plugin for jQuery. Thanks to some essential help from John Resig on animations, this may be the first release that is actually worth its code. And its the last release as a standalone plugin (stay tuned). If you are already using the plugin: An update is highly recommended. Otherwise, why don't you give it a try? Plugin Page and Documentation: http://bassistance.de/jquery-plugins/jquery-plugin-accordion/ Demo: http://jquery.bassistance.de/accordion/ Notable changes from the last release: * Option navigation offers simplest state-saving ever, by activating elements based on the current location * Option autoheight eases the accordion setup by calculating the largest chunk and setting that as the height for all other chunks * Option animated eases animation setup and provides smooth and flawless animations. Using the easing plugin you can replace the default slide animation with bounceslide and easeslide. Additional animations can be added as plugins to jQuery.Accordion.Animations Have fun! Jörn Zaefferer
