Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
You will probably want to add a couple of criteria to limit the records in the list, e.g. for the 1930 census you would want: Individual, death date, equal, blank OR Individual, death date, after, 1929 Mike Michael J Method phone= 317-284-1303 family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley In a message dated 8/9/2009 7:41:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lask...@att.net writes: Pat, OK, I found the post -- it was the December 2006 issue: "How to create a list of "ancestors with no sources" http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/12/index.html Basically, follow these steps but change the "Sources" to Events. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Laskowski Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 5:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem Pat, You have to "reverse engineer" this. A sample was also shown in one of the Legacy news articles. Heres the gist of it: 1. Do a search for all individuals with a "census" event and then tag them with a number; let's say 9. 2. Next, search for ALL Individuals with Tag 9 = untagged. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup List Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problem Is there a way that I can search for those persons who need Census events? For example: 1) All persons who might appear in the 1930 Federal Census Thanks, Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
Pat, OK, I found the post -- it was the December 2006 issue: "How to create a list of "ancestors with no sources" http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/12/index.html Basically, follow these steps but change the "Sources" to Events. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Laskowski Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 5:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem Pat, You have to "reverse engineer" this. A sample was also shown in one of the Legacy news articles. Heres the gist of it: 1. Do a search for all individuals with a "census" event and then tag them with a number; let's say 9. 2. Next, search for ALL Individuals with Tag 9 = untagged. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup List Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problem Is there a way that I can search for those persons who need Census events? For example: 1) All persons who might appear in the 1930 Federal Census Thanks, Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
Pat, You have to "reverse engineer" this. A sample was also shown in one of the Legacy news articles. Heres the gist of it: 1. Do a search for all individuals with a "census" event and then tag them with a number; let's say 9. 2. Next, search for ALL Individuals with Tag 9 = untagged. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup List Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problem Is there a way that I can search for those persons who need Census events? For example: 1) All persons who might appear in the 1930 Federal Census Thanks, Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Search Problem
Is there a way that I can search for those persons who need Census events? For example: 1) All persons who might appear in the 1930 Federal Census Thanks, Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
Dave Johnson wrote
Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does
not have a birth date? I?ve tried the search but alas . . . .
Search
Look for whom? Individual
Where to look? Birth Date
How to look? ???
What to look for? ???
How to look "Equal to", and putting a pair of quotation marks without
space ("") in What to look for? works for me.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
The Great Legacy Helpers! I am reluctant to spam the many great helpers on this list. However, I thought I should at least do it once. I'm relatively new to Legacy but "I Love It!!!" Thanks to your help, I continue to learn how to use different pieces and parts. I am constantly reviewing postings and appreciate all the good advice that is given. What a great piece of software and a wonderful support base. Thank you! Dave -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problem I believe that's under the new Search options. Try the 'Missing Information' tab. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dave Johnson wrote: > > Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does > not have a birth date? I've tried the search but alas . . . . > > Search > > Look for whom? Individual > > Where to look? Birth Date > > How to look? ??? > > What to look for? ??? > > I've tried most combinations of the latter two without success. How do > you tell Legacy you want the individuals with a "null" birth date? > > Thanks, > > Dave > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
I believe that's under the new Search options. Try the 'Missing Information' tab. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Dave Johnson wrote: Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does not have a birth date? I’ve tried the search but alas . . . . Search Look for whom? Individual Where to look? Birth Date How to look? ??? What to look for? ??? I’ve tried most combinations of the latter two without success. How do you tell Legacy you want the individuals with a “null” birth date? Thanks, Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
Dave, last two fields: Equal To and leave the last field blank - ie equal to "" (no quotes). This will not work for Events but does work for the Vital records. Ron Ferguson _ Now completely revised http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: davel...@gmail.com > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problem > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:29:09 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 > database who does not have a birth date? I’ve tried the search but alas > . . . . > > > > > > > > Search > > > > Look for whom? Individual > > > > Where to look? Birth Date > > > > How to look? ??? > > > > What to look for? ??? > > > > > > > > I’ve tried most combinations of the latter two without > success. How do you tell Legacy you want the individuals with a “null” > birth date? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
Search Look for whom Individual Where to look Birth Date How to lookEquals to What to look for There are 3 entries that you can put for "what to look for". You can leave it blank, you can enter " " or you can enter "". All of these work to return a list of people with no birth date. Mary From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:29 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problem Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does not have a birth date? I've tried the search but alas . . . . Search Look for whom? Individual Where to look? Birth Date How to look? ??? What to look for? ??? I've tried most combinations of the latter two without success. How do you tell Legacy you want the individuals with a "null" birth date? Thanks, Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problem
Dave - Go to the Missing Information tab and click "Birth Date", Create List, Tag. If this this a deluxe feature (can't remember), you can still search the regular way by Individual>Birth Date> Equal> and then leave the "what to search for" field blank. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Dave Johnson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problem Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does not have a birth date? I've tried the search but alas . . . . Search Look for whom? Individual Where to look? Birth Date How to look? ??? What to look for? ??? I've tried most combinations of the latter two without success. How do you tell Legacy you want the individuals with a "null" birth date? Thanks, Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Search Problem
Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does not have a birth date? I've tried the search but alas . . . . Search Look for whom? Individual Where to look? Birth Date How to look? ??? What to look for? ??? I've tried most combinations of the latter two without success. How do you tell Legacy you want the individuals with a "null" birth date? Thanks, Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
From: "Maureen Chambers" Also I think we are truly selling our descendants rather short by underestimating their ability to pick up where we have left off. If we are managing, I'm sure they will be more than capable of doing so, especially with the advances in electronic technology. As a descendant who is updating an old family history, I thank you for this sentiment. My ggrandfather, who published the family history in 1898, could not have imagined the existence of birth and death certificates, let alone microfilm copies of them, to say nothing of the internet. Yet I persevere. I presume some future generation will be inquisitive enough to do the same. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
Gary wrote: "..Forcing that researcher to spend time and money obtain their own copy of every document I have located over decades of searching does nothing to extend the lines." Gary I agree with all you have said. I should have mentioned that I was not into pure genealogy - just the self-designated keeper of the family history. However I feel that the information I have given in my sources will easily the info to be checked by anyone else if they don't feel comfortable with accepting what they read. Any images I have obtained can also be viewed via my database and in hard copy files. These include burial/cremation documentation, birth, death, marriage certificates, census documents and others such as mining leases, land purchases, letters, etc. Whilst my methods would not suit the pure genealogist, I am comfortable with having left easy to follow links to sources for anyone coming along after me. Had I studied and followed all the "correct" methods of recording sources, I'd still be wading around somewhere in the early long ago's. Also I think we are truly selling our descendants rather short by underestimating their ability to pick up where we have left off. If we are managing, I'm sure they will be more than capable of doing so, especially with the advances in electronic technology. Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
- Original Message - From: "Maureen Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources Elizabeth wrote: "...I'll now sit back and wait for the backlash . . . . !" No argument from me Elizabeth - I agree with you. While each of us may have different ideas on how and what and how much etc to record in the source fields, I feel that it is just as important for future individuals to do their own researching and verifying as it is for me to do it in this present time. I have read many comments by Listers here about "how will my g-g-grandchildren know what I mean" etc - well, my answer to that is "how did *I* know what others before me meant". The answer of course is by undertaking the research, and checking whatever research has been handed down. After all, 30 years ago, there were no online facilities or digitized records or anything that we have access to today. I can't imagine that this will take any sort of a backward step and in fact, the future keepers of family histories will probably have a much greater range of tools at their disposal than we could ever dream of! Maureen I have to *somewhat* disagree here. All of human progress is based on the concept of taking what has already been done and adding to it. Where would medical science be if every researcher had to spend years going through all the previous experiments and verifying the conclusions before they could move on to new research? That does not mean there should be *no* verification, but I think some common sense is appropriate. If I provide more than just a reference to my source, but perhaps a digital image or a transcription, the researcher after me can evaluate it quickly and easily and make their own independent judgment whether my conclusion was reasonable. Forcing that researcher to spend time and money obtain their own copy of every document I have located over decades of searching does nothing to extend the lines. I suspect most of us have used other people's research as a starting point without verifying every detail of that previous research. There are many lines that have been well documented by multiple researchers and published into books. Any time we cite such a book without viewing the original sources that the author used, we are making a statement on how much we trust the author to have been complete and accurate. And of course, many times such books are the only source we have if the original documents no longer exist or we are prohibited from seeing them. For example, since none of us will likely be able to handle the Domesday Book, we have to rely on the accuracy of transcribers. Similarly, if we show by the thoroughness of our documentation that we were careful and complete researchers, those who follow after us should be able to have some faith in our work and not have to "reinvent the wheel". It is the pedigrees with little to no documentation that need the most verification. Gary Templeman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
Ron Yes, good point about the Chapman codes - and I don't know many of them myself in any case. I also like your clear thinking about the country in the long location but not the short. I do have to remember that one of my brothers has all his family in Canada and what is familiar to the English family is probably quite unfamiliar to the Canadians. Thanks, Elizabeth ronald ferguson wrote: Elizabeth, Whilst I tend to agree with your comments on sourcing, I have resrvations about your use of the Chapman Codes for Counties, even within one's family. I doubt very much if the members of my family (other than those with an interest in genealogy) would know what SSX or SRY mean, let alone all who may see it when I publish. I also add the country (England, Scotland etc) at the end of each full location but remove this for the short. I then have the option of using the long for published work and the short for family. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:08:40 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources I would simplify the search into three categories: (1) search for deaths after 1857. If you get a list drawn up, then search criteria (2) and if successful, then add (3). Just a thought - are you sure that all the individuals in your records have a 'Death Place' included and does it include the word 'England' or just SSX or SRY? As the vast majority of my individuals are in Great Britain, I haven't bothered to put England in anywhere, although I do try to put Scotland, Ireland, Wales or IOM. I'm afraid I hate the recommended version which includes seemingly endless commas in some cases, particularly the earlier you go back in time when you may only have a village name and county. My view is that this is for my family and my descendants and if all 'eyes' are dotted and 'tees' are crossed, there will be nothing for any descendant to do for themselves! Whilst on this subject, and at the risk of being shouted at I don't fill in absolutely every detail for sources. If I found someone at a certain address in the 1851 census I shall say just that, e.g. - source 1851 census for Isle of Man at such-and-such an address. No more is needed as far as I am concerned - I have a printout of the page from the census and that has the actual page numbers etc. Why is more needed for a family document? You may say that if it is to be published it is only right to include all detail, but having seen some of the mis-information that appears in Ancestral Files on the LDS site, I can only think that the more double-checking one has to make, the better. I'll now sit back and wait for the backlash . . . . ! Elizabeth smuggler wrote: Hello Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills in the English Probate Index. Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as follows: You need to set up a Search as follows: Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for select 1858. Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and England. Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and then click the Create List button. I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have fallen within the scope of the search. I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew I had recorded events for these counties. Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? Anne Wiltshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runaway Bay QLD Australia _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.Lega
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
Elizabeth wrote: "...I'll now sit back and wait for the backlash . . . . !" No argument from me Elizabeth - I agree with you. While each of us may have different ideas on how and what and how much etc to record in the source fields, I feel that it is just as important for future individuals to do their own researching and verifying as it is for me to do it in this present time. I have read many comments by Listers here about "how will my g-g-grandchildren know what I mean" etc - well, my answer to that is "how did *I* know what others before me meant". The answer of course is by undertaking the research, and checking whatever research has been handed down. After all, 30 years ago, there were no online facilities or digitized records or anything that we have access to today. I can't imagine that this will take any sort of a backward step and in fact, the future keepers of family histories will probably have a much greater range of tools at their disposal than we could ever dream of! Maureen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
Elizabeth, Whilst I tend to agree with your comments on sourcing, I have resrvations about your use of the Chapman Codes for Counties, even within one's family. I doubt very much if the members of my family (other than those with an interest in genealogy) would know what SSX or SRY mean, let alone all who may see it when I publish. I also add the country (England, Scotland etc) at the end of each full location but remove this for the short. I then have the option of using the long for published work and the short for family. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk New Blog: Open Legacy Family File with Open Office View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:08:40 + > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources > > I would simplify the search into three categories: (1) search for > deaths after 1857. If you get a list drawn up, then search criteria (2) > and if successful, then add (3). > > Just a thought - are you sure that all the individuals in your records > have a 'Death Place' included and does it include the word 'England' or > just SSX or SRY? As the vast majority of my individuals are in Great > Britain, I haven't bothered to put England in anywhere, although I do > try to put Scotland, Ireland, Wales or IOM. I'm afraid I hate the > recommended version which includes seemingly endless commas in some > cases, particularly the earlier you go back in time when you may only > have a village name and county. My view is that this is for my family > and my descendants and if all 'eyes' are dotted and 'tees' are crossed, > there will be nothing for any descendant to do for themselves! > > Whilst on this subject, and at the risk of being shouted at I don't fill > in absolutely every detail for sources. If I found someone at a certain > address in the 1851 census I shall say just that, e.g. - source 1851 > census for Isle of Man at such-and-such an address. No more is needed > as far as I am concerned - I have a printout of the page from the census > and that has the actual page numbers etc. Why is more needed for a > family document? You may say that if it is to be published it is only > right to include all detail, but having seen some of the mis-information > that appears in Ancestral Files on the LDS site, I can only think that > the more double-checking one has to make, the better. > > I'll now sit back and wait for the backlash . . . . ! > Elizabeth > > smuggler wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate >> all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills >> in the English Probate Index. >> >> Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as >> follows: >> >> You need to set up a Search as follows: >> >> Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. >> >> Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select >> Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for >> select 1858. >> >> Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button >> for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did >> above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. >> >> Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make >> selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and >> England. >> >> Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and >> then click the Create List button. >> >> I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results >> found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have >> fallen within the scope of the search. >> >> I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew >> I had recorded events for these counties. >> >> Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? >> >> >> Anne Wiltshire >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Runaway Bay QLD Australia >> _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search problem
Elizabeth thank you for this I did amend my search criteria and hopefully will pick up a few more results once I identify what the problem is. Anne _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Richardson Sent: Friday, 29 February 2008 2:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem I don't know if this will solve your current problem, but if the index is for the years 1858 - 1946, you need to select the search after 1857 and before 1947, else it will not select any deaths in 1858 nor those in 1946. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: smuggler <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Search problem Hello Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills in the English Probate Index. Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as follows: You need to set up a Search as follows: Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for select 1858. Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and England. Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and then click the Create List button. I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have fallen within the scope of the search. I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew I had recorded events for these counties. Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? Anne Wiltshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runaway Bay QLD Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
Hope Thank you for your response. You did resolve my problem but as a result of the mention of the word England. My search was for a death place England however when I record the death place I abbreviate to Eng. Once I amended to this the results appeared. So silly of me, when I actioned the search I followed the instructions from Jenny to the letter without thinking of how I record the information. Thank to you all those who responded offering assistance. Regards Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hope Bagot Bees Sent: Friday, 29 February 2008 7:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources I would simplify the search into three categories: (1) search for deaths after 1857. If you get a list drawn up, then search criteria (2) and if successful, then add (3). Just a thought - are you sure that all the individuals in your records have a 'Death Place' included and does it include the word 'England' or just SSX or SRY? As the vast majority of my individuals are in Great Britain, I haven't bothered to put England in anywhere, although I do try to put Scotland, Ireland, Wales or IOM. I'm afraid I hate the recommended version which includes seemingly endless commas in some cases, particularly the earlier you go back in time when you may only have a village name and county. My view is that this is for my family and my descendants and if all 'eyes' are dotted and 'tees' are crossed, there will be nothing for any descendant to do for themselves! Whilst on this subject, and at the risk of being shouted at I don't fill in absolutely every detail for sources. If I found someone at a certain address in the 1851 census I shall say just that, e.g. - source 1851 census for Isle of Man at such-and-such an address. No more is needed as far as I am concerned - I have a printout of the page from the census and that has the actual page numbers etc. Why is more needed for a family document? You may say that if it is to be published it is only right to include all detail, but having seen some of the mis-information that appears in Ancestral Files on the LDS site, I can only think that the more double-checking one has to make, the better. I'll now sit back and wait for the backlash . . . . ! Elizabeth smuggler wrote: > > Hello > > Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate > all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills > in the English Probate Index. > > Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as > follows: > > You need to set up a Search as follows: > > Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. > > Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select > Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for > select 1858. > > Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button > for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did > above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. > > Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make > selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and > England. > > Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and > then click the Create List button. > > I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results > found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have > fallen within the scope of the search. > > I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew > I had recorded events for these counties. > > Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? > > > Anne Wiltshire > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Runaway Bay QLD Australia > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem & More on Sources
I would simplify the search into three categories: (1) search for deaths after 1857. If you get a list drawn up, then search criteria (2) and if successful, then add (3). Just a thought - are you sure that all the individuals in your records have a 'Death Place' included and does it include the word 'England' or just SSX or SRY? As the vast majority of my individuals are in Great Britain, I haven't bothered to put England in anywhere, although I do try to put Scotland, Ireland, Wales or IOM. I'm afraid I hate the recommended version which includes seemingly endless commas in some cases, particularly the earlier you go back in time when you may only have a village name and county. My view is that this is for my family and my descendants and if all 'eyes' are dotted and 'tees' are crossed, there will be nothing for any descendant to do for themselves! Whilst on this subject, and at the risk of being shouted at I don't fill in absolutely every detail for sources. If I found someone at a certain address in the 1851 census I shall say just that, e.g. - source 1851 census for Isle of Man at such-and-such an address. No more is needed as far as I am concerned - I have a printout of the page from the census and that has the actual page numbers etc. Why is more needed for a family document? You may say that if it is to be published it is only right to include all detail, but having seen some of the mis-information that appears in Ancestral Files on the LDS site, I can only think that the more double-checking one has to make, the better. I'll now sit back and wait for the backlash . . . . ! Elizabeth smuggler wrote: Hello Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills in the English Probate Index. Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as follows: You need to set up a Search as follows: Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for select 1858. Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and England. Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and then click the Create List button. I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have fallen within the scope of the search. I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew I had recorded events for these counties. Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? Anne Wiltshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runaway Bay QLD Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search problem
Alfred Thank you for the response - yes I did tick that box Anne _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred F. Schwilk Sent: Friday, 29 February 2008 3:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem Anne: In the detailed search, have you ticked "Clear List before this search"? Fred Schwilk San Jose, California smuggler wrote: Hello Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills in the English Probate Index. Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as follows: You need to set up a Search as follows: Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for select 1858. Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and England. Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and then click the Create List button. I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have fallen within the scope of the search. I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew I had recorded events for these counties. Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? Anne Wiltshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runaway Bay QLD Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- _ Fred Schwilk San Jose, CA NOTE: NEW E-mail Address --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem
Anne: In the detailed search, have you ticked "Clear List before this search"? Fred Schwilk San Jose, California smuggler wrote: Hello Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills in the English Probate Index. Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as follows: You need to set up a Search as follows: Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for select 1858. Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and England. Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and then click the Create List button. I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have fallen within the scope of the search. I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew I had recorded events for these counties. Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? Anne Wiltshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runaway Bay QLD Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- * Fred Schwilk * San Jose, CA *NOTE:* NEW E-mail Address --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search problem
Search problemI don't know if this will solve your current problem, but if the index is for the years 1858 - 1946, you need to select the search after 1857 and before 1947, else it will not select any deaths in 1858 nor those in 1946. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: smuggler To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Search problem Hello Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills in the English Probate Index. Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as follows: You need to set up a Search as follows: Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for select 1858. Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and England. Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and then click the Create List button. I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have fallen within the scope of the search. I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew I had recorded events for these counties. Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? Anne Wiltshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runaway Bay QLD Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Search problem
Hello Jenny of this previously assisted me when I was endeavouring to locate all deaths between 1858 and 1946 to enable me to search for any wills in the English Probate Index. Jenny's very clear instructions which worked the previous time were as follows: You need to set up a Search as follows: Select the Search Menu, then Find ... Select the Detailed Search tab. Under Look for whom select Individual, under Where to look select Death Date, under How to look select After and under What to look for select 1858. Now tick the box for Second Condition and make sure the radio button for And is selected. Make selections in each of the boxes as you did above, but choosing Individual, Death Date, Before and 1946. Now tick the box for Third Condition and again select And. Make selections as above, choosing Individual, Death Place, Contains and England. Finally, select the radio button for Clear List before this search and then click the Create List button. I have just prepared to do an update and I received a "No results found" message and yet I had just recorded two items which would have fallen within the scope of the search. I even changed it to look for SRY or SSX in lieu of England as I knew I had recorded events for these counties. Is anyone able to advise me if I am doing something wrong? Anne Wiltshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runaway Bay QLD Australia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
