Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Steve Litt wrote: On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. I'd sure desire it. I'd feel free to write just about any silliness in a sandbox, knowing everyone knows it's a sandbox. But if it's indexed by search engines, others coming to it wouldn't necessarily know that, and might believe the silliness I happen to write in there. Two simple solutions to this problem are as follows: * Put a disclaimer at the top of the page, i.e. This page is a work in progress, or I'm just playing around here. * Delete the page when you are done. To delete a page, edit the page and replace the content with just: delete and then save the page. As for drafts, there is the possibility of creating drafts of a wiki page directly at the page. Those might automatically be ignored by google. It's something I'm going to check out during the summer. Another option is a special keyword, which tells google to ignore the page. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/ControllingWebRobots for details. If it's unclear, just ask. (I just wrote the page...) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? Official www.lyx.org. The documentation I didn't see was: doc/Customization.html doc/DocStyle.html doc/Extended.html doc/FAQ.html doc/Intro.html doc/Reference.html doc/TOC.html doc/Tutorial.html doc/UserGuide.html (I didn't check again so maybe it is there.) I don't think it's there. Also note that the documentation is not available in HTML, it's .lyx-files. Automatically converting HTML might be good, but LyX is AFAIK not good enough to do a reliable job of this. Anyway, you can access the .lyx-files using the browser for the version control system. There is probably some wiki page that points to to it, but here's the link http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc Does this answer your question? Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. That is what I was thinking -- use robots.txt and metatags to stop indexing of a practice sandbox. If you think most people want this behaviour, then feel free to follow the instructions here http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/ControllingWebRobots to make google ignore pages in Playground/ :-) /C PS. If you change this behaviour, please a note about it somewhere. Perhaps on Site.FAQ, by creating a new question/answer as to why Google isn't indexing pages in the group Playground/ -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Steve Litt wrote: On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. I'd sure desire it. I'd feel free to write just about any silliness in a sandbox, knowing everyone knows it's a sandbox. But if it's indexed by search engines, others coming to it wouldn't necessarily know that, and might believe the silliness I happen to write in there. Two simple solutions to this problem are as follows: * Put a disclaimer at the top of the page, i.e. This page is a work in progress, or I'm just playing around here. * Delete the page when you are done. To delete a page, edit the page and replace the content with just: delete and then save the page. As for drafts, there is the possibility of creating drafts of a wiki page directly at the page. Those might automatically be ignored by google. It's something I'm going to check out during the summer. Another option is a special keyword, which tells google to ignore the page. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/ControllingWebRobots for details. If it's unclear, just ask. (I just wrote the page...) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? Official www.lyx.org. The documentation I didn't see was: doc/Customization.html doc/DocStyle.html doc/Extended.html doc/FAQ.html doc/Intro.html doc/Reference.html doc/TOC.html doc/Tutorial.html doc/UserGuide.html (I didn't check again so maybe it is there.) I don't think it's there. Also note that the documentation is not available in HTML, it's .lyx-files. Automatically converting HTML might be good, but LyX is AFAIK not good enough to do a reliable job of this. Anyway, you can access the .lyx-files using the browser for the version control system. There is probably some wiki page that points to to it, but here's the link http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc Does this answer your question? Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. That is what I was thinking -- use robots.txt and metatags to stop indexing of a practice sandbox. If you think most people want this behaviour, then feel free to follow the instructions here http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/ControllingWebRobots to make google ignore pages in Playground/ :-) /C PS. If you change this behaviour, please a note about it somewhere. Perhaps on Site.FAQ, by creating a new question/answer as to why Google isn't indexing pages in the group Playground/ -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Steve Litt wrote: On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. I'd sure desire it. I'd feel free to write just about any silliness in a sandbox, knowing everyone knows it's a sandbox. But if it's indexed by search engines, others coming to it wouldn't necessarily know that, and might believe the silliness I happen to write in there. Two simple solutions to this problem are as follows: * Put a disclaimer at the top of the page, i.e. "This page is a work in progress", or "I'm just playing around here". * Delete the page when you are done. To delete a page, edit the page and replace the content with just: delete and then save the page. As for drafts, there is the possibility of creating drafts of a wiki page directly at the page. Those might automatically be ignored by google. It's something I'm going to check out during the summer. Another option is a special keyword, which tells google to ignore the page. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/ControllingWebRobots for details. If it's unclear, just ask. (I just wrote the page...) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? Official www.lyx.org. The documentation I didn't see was: doc/Customization.html doc/DocStyle.html doc/Extended.html doc/FAQ.html doc/Intro.html doc/Reference.html doc/TOC.html doc/Tutorial.html doc/UserGuide.html (I didn't check again so maybe it is there.) I don't think it's there. Also note that the documentation is not available in HTML, it's .lyx-files. Automatically converting HTML might be good, but LyX is AFAIK not good enough to do a reliable job of this. Anyway, you can access the .lyx-files using the browser for the version control system. There is probably some wiki page that points to to it, but here's the link http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc Does this answer your question? Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. That is what I was thinking -- use robots.txt and metatags to stop indexing of a practice sandbox. If you think most people want this behaviour, then feel free to follow the instructions here http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/ControllingWebRobots to make google ignore pages in Playground/ :-) /C PS. If you change this behaviour, please a note about it somewhere. Perhaps on Site.FAQ, by creating a new question/answer as to why Google isn't indexing pages in the group Playground/ -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:13, Hellmut Weber wrote: Here comes a modest example (charstyle.layout), it defines a char style to put some piece of a running text into a framed box. Note the second line which defines the 'Label' of the Document class! How to proceed: 1) Put your layout file with the char style definition(s) in your local folder $HOME/.lyx/layouts (Suppose you put my example 'charstyle.layout' there) 2) start lyx and reconfigure (Steve Litt indicateed recently how to do so from the command line, but i don't remember exactly how) http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/DebuggingLayoutFiles SteveT
Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? * http://www.lyx.org: This is the official LyX website and it is maintained by the developers. * http://wiki.lyx.org: This is website is a wiki and it is created and maintained by all LyX users (including developers). Anyone can add content to it, that includes you as well. So in this particular case, if you want some LyX documentation to be added to the wiki, you can even do it yourself. You might not know how, or where to add it, but that's something we can (and should) discuss here on the list :-) p.p.s. Why are there both http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles and http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/CharacterStyle wiki pages? Did you look at the latter? It just contains a link to another page. That page contains the information. More generally, the page 'Category.CharacterStyle' is a meta page in the sense that it is supposed to (automatically) list all pages that are related to character styles. Or put differently, all pages that belong to the category 'Character Styles'. As for the playground, it's an area where people can play with wiki markup, textual documentation, whatever. One possible use is that you do the work of writing your text/explanation/documentation whatever on e.g. Playground/CharacterStyles Then when you are happy with it, you move the text to a page that is not in the playground. Perhaps the author in this case forgot to move it? Or just forgot to delete the old text in the playground. Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. I'd sure desire it. I'd feel free to write just about any silliness in a sandbox, knowing everyone knows it's a sandbox. But if it's indexed by search engines, others coming to it wouldn't necessarily know that, and might believe the silliness I happen to write in there. SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? Official www.lyx.org. The documentation I didn't see was: doc/Customization.html doc/DocStyle.html doc/Extended.html doc/FAQ.html doc/Intro.html doc/Reference.html doc/TOC.html doc/Tutorial.html doc/UserGuide.html (I didn't check again so maybe it is there.) Yes I know there is a wiki. If those above were in wiki that would be fine also. (If someone or some tool keeps in sync both ways with official docs.) Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. That is what I was thinking -- use robots.txt and metatags to stop indexing of a practice sandbox. Jeremy C. Reed
Re: how to use custom character styles
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Richard Heck wrote:
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g. /usr/share/lyx/.
You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use this one), and then
include the file in a custom layout file. This can be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
That had errors, so I just copied scrbook.layout to my ~/.lyx/layouts/ and
added the line:
Input mycharstyles.inc
Is there any file that corresponds to stdcharstyles.inc that defines
\newcommand{} for \filename and the others in that file? Or do I have to
define all these myself?
LaTeX already defines \filename (or something does, on my system), so I
have to use something else here. And the reason db_stdcharstyles.inc
doesn't define any of this is that it's a layout for doing DocBook, not
LaTeX, so yes, you'll have to define them yourself. You can do this in
the layout file, using a construct like this:
CharStyle Filename
LatexType Command
LatexName fname
Font
Family Typewriter
EndFont
LabelFont
Family Roman
Color blue
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\fname}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble
End
Richard
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Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:13, Hellmut Weber wrote: Here comes a modest example (charstyle.layout), it defines a char style to put some piece of a running text into a framed box. Note the second line which defines the 'Label' of the Document class! How to proceed: 1) Put your layout file with the char style definition(s) in your local folder $HOME/.lyx/layouts (Suppose you put my example 'charstyle.layout' there) 2) start lyx and reconfigure (Steve Litt indicateed recently how to do so from the command line, but i don't remember exactly how) http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/DebuggingLayoutFiles SteveT
Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? * http://www.lyx.org: This is the official LyX website and it is maintained by the developers. * http://wiki.lyx.org: This is website is a wiki and it is created and maintained by all LyX users (including developers). Anyone can add content to it, that includes you as well. So in this particular case, if you want some LyX documentation to be added to the wiki, you can even do it yourself. You might not know how, or where to add it, but that's something we can (and should) discuss here on the list :-) p.p.s. Why are there both http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles and http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/CharacterStyle wiki pages? Did you look at the latter? It just contains a link to another page. That page contains the information. More generally, the page 'Category.CharacterStyle' is a meta page in the sense that it is supposed to (automatically) list all pages that are related to character styles. Or put differently, all pages that belong to the category 'Character Styles'. As for the playground, it's an area where people can play with wiki markup, textual documentation, whatever. One possible use is that you do the work of writing your text/explanation/documentation whatever on e.g. Playground/CharacterStyles Then when you are happy with it, you move the text to a page that is not in the playground. Perhaps the author in this case forgot to move it? Or just forgot to delete the old text in the playground. Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. I'd sure desire it. I'd feel free to write just about any silliness in a sandbox, knowing everyone knows it's a sandbox. But if it's indexed by search engines, others coming to it wouldn't necessarily know that, and might believe the silliness I happen to write in there. SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? Official www.lyx.org. The documentation I didn't see was: doc/Customization.html doc/DocStyle.html doc/Extended.html doc/FAQ.html doc/Intro.html doc/Reference.html doc/TOC.html doc/Tutorial.html doc/UserGuide.html (I didn't check again so maybe it is there.) Yes I know there is a wiki. If those above were in wiki that would be fine also. (If someone or some tool keeps in sync both ways with official docs.) Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. That is what I was thinking -- use robots.txt and metatags to stop indexing of a practice sandbox. Jeremy C. Reed
Re: how to use custom character styles
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Richard Heck wrote:
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g. /usr/share/lyx/.
You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use this one), and then
include the file in a custom layout file. This can be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
That had errors, so I just copied scrbook.layout to my ~/.lyx/layouts/ and
added the line:
Input mycharstyles.inc
Is there any file that corresponds to stdcharstyles.inc that defines
\newcommand{} for \filename and the others in that file? Or do I have to
define all these myself?
LaTeX already defines \filename (or something does, on my system), so I
have to use something else here. And the reason db_stdcharstyles.inc
doesn't define any of this is that it's a layout for doing DocBook, not
LaTeX, so yes, you'll have to define them yourself. You can do this in
the layout file, using a construct like this:
CharStyle Filename
LatexType Command
LatexName fname
Font
Family Typewriter
EndFont
LabelFont
Family Roman
Color blue
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\fname}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble
End
Richard
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Brown University
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Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:13, Hellmut Weber wrote: > Here comes a modest example (charstyle.layout), it defines a char style > to put some piece of a running text into a framed box. > Note the second line which defines the 'Label' of the Document class! > > How to proceed: > > 1) Put your layout file with the char style definition(s) in your local > folder $HOME/.lyx/layouts > (Suppose you put my example 'charstyle.layout' there) > > 2) start lyx and reconfigure > (Steve Litt indicateed recently how to do so from the command line, but > i don't remember exactly how) http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/DebuggingLayoutFiles SteveT
Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? I don't understand the question... which website? * http://www.lyx.org: This is the official LyX website and it is maintained by the developers. * http://wiki.lyx.org: This is website is a wiki and it is created and maintained by all LyX users (including developers). Anyone can add content to it, that includes you as well. So in this particular case, if you want some LyX documentation to be added to the wiki, you can even do it yourself. You might not know how, or where to add it, but that's something we can (and should) discuss here on the list :-) p.p.s. Why are there both http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles and http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/CharacterStyle wiki pages? Did you look at the latter? It just contains a link to another page. That page contains the information. More generally, the page 'Category.CharacterStyle' is a "meta page" in the sense that it is supposed to (automatically) list all pages that are related to character styles. Or put differently, all pages that belong to the category 'Character Styles'. As for the playground, it's an area where people can play with wiki markup, textual documentation, whatever. One possible use is that you do the work of writing your text/explanation/documentation whatever on e.g. Playground/CharacterStyles Then when you are happy with it, you move the text to a page that is not in the playground. Perhaps the author in this case forgot to move it? Or just forgot to delete the old text in the playground. Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not sure that's desired. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? > > Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. > > It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not > sure that's desired. I'd sure desire it. I'd feel free to write just about any silliness in a sandbox, knowing everyone knows it's a sandbox. But if it's indexed by search engines, others coming to it wouldn't necessarily know that, and might believe the silliness I happen to write in there. SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Wiki v.s. web site (Was: how to use custom character styles)
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > > http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: > > > > p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I > > overlooked it -- where is it linked from? > > I don't understand the question... which website? Official www.lyx.org. The documentation I didn't see was: doc/Customization.html doc/DocStyle.html doc/Extended.html doc/FAQ.html doc/Intro.html doc/Reference.html doc/TOC.html doc/Tutorial.html doc/UserGuide.html (I didn't check again so maybe it is there.) Yes I know there is a wiki. If those above were in wiki that would be fine also. (If someone or some tool keeps in sync both ways with official docs.) > > Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox? > > Google has no reason to _not_ index pages in the wiki group Playground. > > It might be possible to instruct google to ignore those pages, but I'm not > sure that's desired. That is what I was thinking -- use robots.txt and metatags to stop indexing of a practice sandbox. Jeremy C. Reed
Re: how to use custom character styles
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Richard Heck wrote:
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g. /usr/share/lyx/.
You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use this one), and then
include the file in a custom layout file. This can be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
That had errors, so I just copied scrbook.layout to my ~/.lyx/layouts/ and
added the line:
Input mycharstyles.inc
Is there any file that corresponds to stdcharstyles.inc that defines
\newcommand{} for \filename and the others in that file? Or do I have to
define all these myself?
LaTeX already defines \filename (or something does, on my system), so I
have to use something else here. And the reason db_stdcharstyles.inc
doesn't define any of this is that it's a layout for doing DocBook, not
LaTeX, so yes, you'll have to define them yourself. You can do this in
the layout file, using a construct like this:
CharStyle Filename
LatexType Command
LatexName fname
Font
Family Typewriter
EndFont
LabelFont
Family Roman
Color blue
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\fname}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble
End
Richard
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Brown University
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how to use custom character styles
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character formattings. I want to have styles defined for: filenames command names command line options configuration options command output (I just use lyxcode for that) command input etc.. Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis), bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a filename or command for example. Any examples? I am using 1.4.3 and the User's Guide says: The LyX Team has at last (as of LyX version 1.4) introduced true character styles, but currently these must be defined explicitly in the document layout file. There's currently no GUI support to define new, or tweak existing, character styles to allow you, the user, to customize which font changes correspond to what styles. Can someone share examples for this? I see that http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles mentions some examples. How can I use these? Also email from Steve L at http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: - Insert - Character Style - Pick which character style But I don't see that anywhere. (Not on my Insert menu.) Can someone explain this? Jeremy C. Reed p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? p.p.s. Why are there both http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles and http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/CharacterStyle wiki pages? Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox?
Re: how to use custom character styles
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character
formattings.
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
command names
command line options
configuration options
command output (I just use lyxcode for that)
command input
etc..
Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis),
bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to
change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a
filename or command for example.
Any examples?
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g.
/usr/share/lyx/. You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use
this one), and then include the file in a custom layout file. This can
be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox?
Because Google's search bots aren't yet perfect.
Richard
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Professor of Philosophy
Brown University
http://frege.brown.edu/heck/
==
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Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 13:34, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character
formattings.
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
command names
command line options
configuration options
command output (I just use lyxcode for that)
command input
etc..
Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis),
bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to
change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a
filename or command for example.
Hi Jeremy,
You're right that things like filenames and command names should never be
formatted with generic stuff like typewriter, emphesis and bold. You're right
that the correct way is to use character styles. I'm going to tell you the
generics of character styles first.
I defined something like your command line options character style. It's
typewriter font representing any kind of source code. I called it CharCode.
Here's the LyX portion of the character style:
CharStyle Charcode
Font
Family Typewriter
EndFont
LatexName charcode
LatexType Command
End
The stuff between Font and EndFont determines how it looks from within LyX.
You'll notice that the LatexType is Command. That's important -- character
styles must have a LatexType of Command, never of Environment or anything
else (as far as I know). The LatexName is charcode. That's the LaTeX command
that gets run, using the text to which the character style is applied as an
argument. The following is the LaTeX definition of charcode:
% ### Character style -- monotype for code in paragraph
\newcommand{\charcode}[1]{\texttt{#1}}%
In other words, you make a LaTeX command to format the output the way you want
it, and then you make a LyX CharStyle to format it within the LyX editor and
also to call the command.
The only trouble I see your having is if you absolutely must have all the
different character styles look differently, which I believe usually isn't
the case in technical books. IIRC Sams Publishing told me to use bold
monofont for text I typed at the command prompt, and regular monofont for
what the program output. IIRC Sams told me to use regular monofont to
represent source code and configuration files. However, you're doing it right
by making different character styles for all of these things, because if you
ever DO want to differentiate them, it's as simple as changing the LaTeX
command.
Also email from Steve L at
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says:
- Insert
- Character Style
- Pick which character style
But I don't see that anywhere. (Not on my Insert menu.) Can someone
explain this?
I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert
menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you
successfully create a character style, Character Style will appear as an
option on your Insert submenu.
If I were in your shoes, I'd create a tiny LyX test document and a tiny layout
file, and experiment.
Hope this helps.
SteveT
Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: how to use custom character styles
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Richard Heck wrote:
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g. /usr/share/lyx/.
You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use this one), and then
include the file in a custom layout file. This can be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
That had errors, so I just copied scrbook.layout to my ~/.lyx/layouts/ and
added the line:
Input mycharstyles.inc
Is there any file that corresponds to stdcharstyles.inc that defines
\newcommand{} for \filename and the others in that file? Or do I have to
define all these myself?
Jeremy C. Reed
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Steve, I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you successfully create a character style, Character Style will appear asan option on your Insert submenu. I'm surprised because in my installation (gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0, lyx-1.5.0rc1) it appears here: Edit TextStyle then there appears a submenu: Customized... Capitalize Uppercase Lowercase And since the moment my Char Style 'Fboxed' is active, it appears above the line with 'Customized...' BTW I agree with your considerations on the use of Char Styles ;-) Greetings Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Jeremy,
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
...
etc..
...
Can someone share examples for this?
Here comes a modest example (charstyle.layout), it defines a char style
to put some piece of a running text into a framed box.
Note the second line which defines the 'Label' of the Document class!
How to proceed:
1) Put your layout file with the char style definition(s) in your local
folder $HOME/.lyx/layouts
(Suppose you put my example 'charstyle.layout' there)
2) start lyx and reconfigure
(Steve Litt indicateed recently how to do so from the command line, but
i don't remember exactly how)
4) $ lyx test_char_style.lyx
5) Create a new document (ctrl+N), put some text in, select a piece of text
6) Document Settings Document Class
7) Open the associated pull down list 'Document class' and choose the
document class 'article (Char Style Test)', click OK (or quicker: alt+O)
Now the marked part of the text will be shown inside of some sort of
blue brackets, labelled 'Fboxed'
8) Compile to PDF (alt+V, f) and your pdf-viewer should pop up showing
you the result.
To define char styles you will need some LaTeX knowledge. Once you got
the general idea it's not that difficult.
BTW This afternoon i installed lyx-1.5.0rc1, it's great!
What i described above works with 1.5.0!
I'm working on an IBM Lenovo T60 witrh gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0
HTH + Happy LyXing!
Hellmut
--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
#LyX 1.5.0rc1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 271
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass charstyle
\language ngerman
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author leo
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout Standard
asdf
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
asdf
\begin_inset CharStyle Fboxed
show_label true
status inlined
\begin_layout Standard
qewrf
\end_layout
\end_inset
asdf
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
adsf
\begin_inset CharStyle Fboxed
show_label false
status inlined
\begin_layout Standard
qewrrf
\end_layout
\end_inset
asdf2345 ycxv
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
asddf098u
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
newfile2.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[scrartcl]{article (Char Style Test)}
#
# Char Style definition file for HWWTest documents
# Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-06-01
#
# based on /usr/share/lyx/layouts/scrartcl.layout
# Bernd Rellermeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 1998/7/11.
Preamble
%
% === Preamble part from charstyle.layout ===
%
\RequirePackage{setspace}
\RequirePackage{pifont}
%
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{cmss}
%
\renewcommand{\theenumi} {\Alph{enumi}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumi}{\theenumi.}
\renewcommand{\theenumii} {\Roman{enumii}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumii} {\theenumii.}
\renewcommand{\theenumiii}{\arabic{enumiii}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumiii} {\theenumiii.}
\renewcommand{\theenumiv} {\alph{enumiv}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumiv} {\theenumiv)}
%
% === End preamble part from charstyle.layout ===
%
EndPreamble
# General textclass parameters
Input /usr/share/lyx/layouts/scrartcl.layout
# 2007-04-29 Hw, frame-boxed code-parts
# Jürgen Spitzmüller's answer to my question
# CharStyle Fboxed_Code, ,-( # Here no underscore!
CharStyle Fboxed
LatexType Command
LatexName fboxedcode
LabelFont
Family Roman
Color blue
EndFont
Preamble
% === Start preamble part of Char style fboxed ===
\newcommand{\fboxedcode}[1]{%
\fbox{\texttt{\small%
#1%
}}% texttt fbox
}%
% === End preamble part of Char style fboxed ===
EndPreamble
End
Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:11, Hellmut Weber wrote: Hi Steve, I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you successfully create a character style, Character Style will appear asan option on your Insert submenu. I'm surprised because in my installation (gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0, lyx-1.5.0rc1) it appears here: Edit TextStyle then there appears a submenu: Customized... Capitalize Uppercase Lowercase Thanks Hellmut, Jeremy and I are using 1.4.x. Sounds like 1.5.x is better and more sophisticated. Something to look forward to. I hope with 1.5.x I can still do it the way I do it in 1.4.x, because the way I've been doing it can create almost any conceivable text appearance. In my new book Learn Vim Tonight: Use the Worlds Most Productive Editor Tomorrow I had a text style called ex, which I used only on the word ex (the line editor part of vi) so that it stood out, looked funky, and was immediately recognizable as a special word. Thanks SteveT
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Steve, i don't have much experience so far with Char Styles, but i'm pretty sure you can do everything you want, i.e. possible with a latex command. Jeremy and I are using 1.4.x. Sounds like 1.5.x is better and more sophisticated. Something to look forward to. I suppose we will get very quickly used to the new menus. For me LyX is probably the most used too of all. Good Luck with your books Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
how to use custom character styles
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character formattings. I want to have styles defined for: filenames command names command line options configuration options command output (I just use lyxcode for that) command input etc.. Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis), bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a filename or command for example. Any examples? I am using 1.4.3 and the User's Guide says: The LyX Team has at last (as of LyX version 1.4) introduced true character styles, but currently these must be defined explicitly in the document layout file. There's currently no GUI support to define new, or tweak existing, character styles to allow you, the user, to customize which font changes correspond to what styles. Can someone share examples for this? I see that http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles mentions some examples. How can I use these? Also email from Steve L at http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: - Insert - Character Style - Pick which character style But I don't see that anywhere. (Not on my Insert menu.) Can someone explain this? Jeremy C. Reed p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? p.p.s. Why are there both http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles and http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/CharacterStyle wiki pages? Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox?
Re: how to use custom character styles
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character
formattings.
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
command names
command line options
configuration options
command output (I just use lyxcode for that)
command input
etc..
Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis),
bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to
change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a
filename or command for example.
Any examples?
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g.
/usr/share/lyx/. You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use
this one), and then include the file in a custom layout file. This can
be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox?
Because Google's search bots aren't yet perfect.
Richard
--
==
Richard G Heck, Jr
Professor of Philosophy
Brown University
http://frege.brown.edu/heck/
==
Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de
Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC
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Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 13:34, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character
formattings.
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
command names
command line options
configuration options
command output (I just use lyxcode for that)
command input
etc..
Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis),
bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to
change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a
filename or command for example.
Hi Jeremy,
You're right that things like filenames and command names should never be
formatted with generic stuff like typewriter, emphesis and bold. You're right
that the correct way is to use character styles. I'm going to tell you the
generics of character styles first.
I defined something like your command line options character style. It's
typewriter font representing any kind of source code. I called it CharCode.
Here's the LyX portion of the character style:
CharStyle Charcode
Font
Family Typewriter
EndFont
LatexName charcode
LatexType Command
End
The stuff between Font and EndFont determines how it looks from within LyX.
You'll notice that the LatexType is Command. That's important -- character
styles must have a LatexType of Command, never of Environment or anything
else (as far as I know). The LatexName is charcode. That's the LaTeX command
that gets run, using the text to which the character style is applied as an
argument. The following is the LaTeX definition of charcode:
% ### Character style -- monotype for code in paragraph
\newcommand{\charcode}[1]{\texttt{#1}}%
In other words, you make a LaTeX command to format the output the way you want
it, and then you make a LyX CharStyle to format it within the LyX editor and
also to call the command.
The only trouble I see your having is if you absolutely must have all the
different character styles look differently, which I believe usually isn't
the case in technical books. IIRC Sams Publishing told me to use bold
monofont for text I typed at the command prompt, and regular monofont for
what the program output. IIRC Sams told me to use regular monofont to
represent source code and configuration files. However, you're doing it right
by making different character styles for all of these things, because if you
ever DO want to differentiate them, it's as simple as changing the LaTeX
command.
Also email from Steve L at
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says:
- Insert
- Character Style
- Pick which character style
But I don't see that anywhere. (Not on my Insert menu.) Can someone
explain this?
I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert
menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you
successfully create a character style, Character Style will appear as an
option on your Insert submenu.
If I were in your shoes, I'd create a tiny LyX test document and a tiny layout
file, and experiment.
Hope this helps.
SteveT
Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: how to use custom character styles
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Richard Heck wrote:
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g. /usr/share/lyx/.
You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use this one), and then
include the file in a custom layout file. This can be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
That had errors, so I just copied scrbook.layout to my ~/.lyx/layouts/ and
added the line:
Input mycharstyles.inc
Is there any file that corresponds to stdcharstyles.inc that defines
\newcommand{} for \filename and the others in that file? Or do I have to
define all these myself?
Jeremy C. Reed
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Steve, I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you successfully create a character style, Character Style will appear asan option on your Insert submenu. I'm surprised because in my installation (gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0, lyx-1.5.0rc1) it appears here: Edit TextStyle then there appears a submenu: Customized... Capitalize Uppercase Lowercase And since the moment my Char Style 'Fboxed' is active, it appears above the line with 'Customized...' BTW I agree with your considerations on the use of Char Styles ;-) Greetings Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Jeremy,
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
...
etc..
...
Can someone share examples for this?
Here comes a modest example (charstyle.layout), it defines a char style
to put some piece of a running text into a framed box.
Note the second line which defines the 'Label' of the Document class!
How to proceed:
1) Put your layout file with the char style definition(s) in your local
folder $HOME/.lyx/layouts
(Suppose you put my example 'charstyle.layout' there)
2) start lyx and reconfigure
(Steve Litt indicateed recently how to do so from the command line, but
i don't remember exactly how)
4) $ lyx test_char_style.lyx
5) Create a new document (ctrl+N), put some text in, select a piece of text
6) Document Settings Document Class
7) Open the associated pull down list 'Document class' and choose the
document class 'article (Char Style Test)', click OK (or quicker: alt+O)
Now the marked part of the text will be shown inside of some sort of
blue brackets, labelled 'Fboxed'
8) Compile to PDF (alt+V, f) and your pdf-viewer should pop up showing
you the result.
To define char styles you will need some LaTeX knowledge. Once you got
the general idea it's not that difficult.
BTW This afternoon i installed lyx-1.5.0rc1, it's great!
What i described above works with 1.5.0!
I'm working on an IBM Lenovo T60 witrh gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0
HTH + Happy LyXing!
Hellmut
--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
#LyX 1.5.0rc1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 271
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass charstyle
\language ngerman
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author leo
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout Standard
asdf
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
asdf
\begin_inset CharStyle Fboxed
show_label true
status inlined
\begin_layout Standard
qewrf
\end_layout
\end_inset
asdf
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
adsf
\begin_inset CharStyle Fboxed
show_label false
status inlined
\begin_layout Standard
qewrrf
\end_layout
\end_inset
asdf2345 ycxv
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
asddf098u
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
newfile2.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[scrartcl]{article (Char Style Test)}
#
# Char Style definition file for HWWTest documents
# Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-06-01
#
# based on /usr/share/lyx/layouts/scrartcl.layout
# Bernd Rellermeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 1998/7/11.
Preamble
%
% === Preamble part from charstyle.layout ===
%
\RequirePackage{setspace}
\RequirePackage{pifont}
%
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{cmss}
%
\renewcommand{\theenumi} {\Alph{enumi}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumi}{\theenumi.}
\renewcommand{\theenumii} {\Roman{enumii}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumii} {\theenumii.}
\renewcommand{\theenumiii}{\arabic{enumiii}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumiii} {\theenumiii.}
\renewcommand{\theenumiv} {\alph{enumiv}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumiv} {\theenumiv)}
%
% === End preamble part from charstyle.layout ===
%
EndPreamble
# General textclass parameters
Input /usr/share/lyx/layouts/scrartcl.layout
# 2007-04-29 Hw, frame-boxed code-parts
# Jürgen Spitzmüller's answer to my question
# CharStyle Fboxed_Code, ,-( # Here no underscore!
CharStyle Fboxed
LatexType Command
LatexName fboxedcode
LabelFont
Family Roman
Color blue
EndFont
Preamble
% === Start preamble part of Char style fboxed ===
\newcommand{\fboxedcode}[1]{%
\fbox{\texttt{\small%
#1%
}}% texttt fbox
}%
% === End preamble part of Char style fboxed ===
EndPreamble
End
Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:11, Hellmut Weber wrote: Hi Steve, I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you successfully create a character style, Character Style will appear asan option on your Insert submenu. I'm surprised because in my installation (gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0, lyx-1.5.0rc1) it appears here: Edit TextStyle then there appears a submenu: Customized... Capitalize Uppercase Lowercase Thanks Hellmut, Jeremy and I are using 1.4.x. Sounds like 1.5.x is better and more sophisticated. Something to look forward to. I hope with 1.5.x I can still do it the way I do it in 1.4.x, because the way I've been doing it can create almost any conceivable text appearance. In my new book Learn Vim Tonight: Use the Worlds Most Productive Editor Tomorrow I had a text style called ex, which I used only on the word ex (the line editor part of vi) so that it stood out, looked funky, and was immediately recognizable as a special word. Thanks SteveT
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Steve, i don't have much experience so far with Char Styles, but i'm pretty sure you can do everything you want, i.e. possible with a latex command. Jeremy and I are using 1.4.x. Sounds like 1.5.x is better and more sophisticated. Something to look forward to. I suppose we will get very quickly used to the new menus. For me LyX is probably the most used too of all. Good Luck with your books Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
how to use custom character styles
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character formattings. I want to have styles defined for: filenames command names command line options configuration options command output (I just use lyxcode for that) command input etc.. Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis), bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a "filename" or "command" for example. Any examples? I am using 1.4.3 and the User's Guide says: "The LyX Team has at last (as of LyX version 1.4) introduced true character styles, but currently these must be defined explicitly in the document layout file. There's currently no GUI support to define new, or tweak existing, character styles to allow you, the user, to customize which font changes correspond to what styles." Can someone share examples for this? I see that http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles mentions some examples. How can I use these? Also email from Steve L at http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says: - Insert - Character Style - Pick which character style But I don't see that anywhere. (Not on my Insert menu.) Can someone explain this? Jeremy C. Reed p.s. Why doesn't the website have the LyX documentation? If it does, I overlooked it -- where is it linked from? p.p.s. Why are there both http://wiki.lyx.org/Playground/CharacterStyles and http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/CharacterStyle wiki pages? Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox?
Re: how to use custom character styles
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character
formattings.
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
command names
command line options
configuration options
command output (I just use lyxcode for that)
command input
etc..
Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis),
bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to
change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a
"filename" or "command" for example.
Any examples?
Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g.
/usr/share/lyx/. You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use
this one), and then include the file in a custom layout file. This can
be as simple as:
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
Input article.cls
Input mycharstyles.inc
Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
Or why does Google have Playground indexed if it is a practice sandbox?
Because Google's search bots aren't yet perfect.
Richard
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Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 13:34, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> I have a 180+ page book with many (probably over 500) character
> formattings.
>
> I want to have styles defined for:
>
> filenames
> command names
> command line options
> configuration options
> command output (I just use lyxcode for that)
> command input
> etc..
>
> Currently I am just using stuff like typewriter, italics (or emphasis),
> bold, ... but whenever I want to try something different I will have to
> change hundreds of things. So I want to be able to identify something as a
> "filename" or "command" for example.
Hi Jeremy,
You're right that things like filenames and command names should never be
formatted with generic stuff like typewriter, emphesis and bold. You're right
that the correct way is to use character styles. I'm going to tell you the
generics of character styles first.
I defined something like your command line options character style. It's
typewriter font representing any kind of source code. I called it CharCode.
Here's the LyX portion of the character style:
CharStyle Charcode
Font
Family Typewriter
EndFont
LatexName charcode
LatexType Command
End
The stuff between Font and EndFont determines how it looks from within LyX.
You'll notice that the LatexType is Command. That's important -- character
styles must have a LatexType of Command, never of Environment or anything
else (as far as I know). The LatexName is charcode. That's the LaTeX command
that gets run, using the text to which the character style is applied as an
argument. The following is the LaTeX definition of charcode:
% ### Character style -- monotype for code in paragraph
\newcommand{\charcode}[1]{\texttt{#1}}%
In other words, you make a LaTeX command to format the output the way you want
it, and then you make a LyX CharStyle to format it within the LyX editor and
also to call the command.
The only trouble I see your having is if you absolutely must have all the
different character styles look differently, which I believe usually isn't
the case in technical books. IIRC Sams Publishing told me to use bold
monofont for text I typed at the command prompt, and regular monofont for
what the program output. IIRC Sams told me to use regular monofont to
represent source code and configuration files. However, you're doing it right
by making different character styles for all of these things, because if you
ever DO want to differentiate them, it's as simple as changing the LaTeX
command.
> Also email from Steve L at
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcutForCharacterStyles says:
>
> - Insert
> - Character Style
> - Pick which character style
>
> But I don't see that anywhere. (Not on my Insert menu.) Can someone
> explain this?
I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert
menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you
successfully create a character style, "Character Style" will appear as an
option on your Insert submenu.
If I were in your shoes, I'd create a tiny LyX test document and a tiny layout
file, and experiment.
Hope this helps.
SteveT
Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: how to use custom character styles
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Richard Heck wrote:
> Look at the stdcharstyles.inc file, which you'll find in e.g. /usr/share/lyx/.
> You'll need to define yours in a similar way (or use this one), and then
> include the file in a custom layout file. This can be as simple as:
> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
> # \DeclareLaTeXClass[article.cls]{article (mine)}
> Input article.cls
> Input mycharstyles.inc
> Put this in your user layout directory (e.g., /home/you/.lyx/layouts/),
> reconfigure LyX, choose it, and you're off.
That had errors, so I just copied scrbook.layout to my ~/.lyx/layouts/ and
added the line:
Input mycharstyles.inc
Is there any file that corresponds to stdcharstyles.inc that defines
\newcommand{} for \filename and the others in that file? Or do I have to
define all these myself?
Jeremy C. Reed
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Steve, I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the Insert menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute you successfully create a character style, "Character Style" will appear asan option on your Insert submenu. I'm surprised because in my installation (gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0, lyx-1.5.0rc1) it appears here: >>Edit >TextStyle > then there appears a submenu: Customized... Capitalize Uppercase Lowercase And since the moment my Char Style 'Fboxed' is active, it appears above the line with 'Customized...' BTW I agree with your considerations on the use of Char Styles ;-) Greetings Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Jeremy,
I want to have styles defined for:
filenames
...
etc..
...
Can someone share examples for this?
Here comes a modest example (charstyle.layout), it defines a char style
to put some piece of a running text into a framed box.
Note the second line which defines the 'Label' of the Document class!
How to proceed:
1) Put your layout file with the char style definition(s) in your local
folder $HOME/.lyx/layouts
(Suppose you put my example 'charstyle.layout' there)
2) start lyx and reconfigure
(Steve Litt indicateed recently how to do so from the command line, but
i don't remember exactly how)
4) $ lyx test_char_style.lyx
5) Create a new document (ctrl+N), put some text in, select a piece of text
6) >>Document >Settings >Document Class
7) Open the associated pull down list 'Document class' and choose the
document class 'article (Char Style Test)', click OK (or quicker: alt+O)
Now the marked part of the text will be shown inside of some sort of
blue brackets, labelled 'Fboxed'
8) Compile to PDF (alt+V, f) and your pdf-viewer should pop up showing
you the result.
To define char styles you will need some LaTeX knowledge. Once you got
the general idea it's not that difficult.
BTW This afternoon i installed lyx-1.5.0rc1, it's great!
What i described above works with 1.5.0!
I'm working on an IBM Lenovo T60 witrh gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, tetex-3.0
HTH + Happy LyXing!
Hellmut
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#LyX 1.5.0rc1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 271
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass charstyle
\language ngerman
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single
\papersize default
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 3
\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author "leo"
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout Standard
asdf
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
asdf
\begin_inset CharStyle Fboxed
show_label true
status inlined
\begin_layout Standard
qewrf
\end_layout
\end_inset
asdf
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
adsf
\begin_inset CharStyle Fboxed
show_label false
status inlined
\begin_layout Standard
qewrrf
\end_layout
\end_inset
asdf2345 ycxv
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
asddf098u
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
newfile2.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[scrartcl]{article (Char Style Test)}
#
# Char Style definition file for HWWTest documents
# Hellmut Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2007-06-01
#
# based on /usr/share/lyx/layouts/scrartcl.layout
# Bernd Rellermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 1998/7/11.
Preamble
%
% === Preamble part from charstyle.layout ===
%
\RequirePackage{setspace}
\RequirePackage{pifont}
%
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{cmss}
%
\renewcommand{\theenumi} {\Alph{enumi}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumi}{\theenumi.}
\renewcommand{\theenumii} {\Roman{enumii}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumii} {\theenumii.}
\renewcommand{\theenumiii}{\arabic{enumiii}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumiii} {\theenumiii.}
\renewcommand{\theenumiv} {\alph{enumiv}}
\renewcommand{\labelenumiv} {\theenumiv)}
%
% === End preamble part from charstyle.layout ===
%
EndPreamble
# General textclass parameters
Input /usr/share/lyx/layouts/scrartcl.layout
# 2007-04-29 Hw, frame-boxed code-parts
# Jürgen Spitzmüller's answer to my question
# CharStyle Fboxed_Code, ,-( # Here no underscore!
CharStyle Fboxed
LatexType Command
LatexName fboxedcode
LabelFont
Family Roman
Color blue
EndFont
Preamble
% === Start preamble part of Char style fboxed ===
\newcommand{\fboxedcode}[1]{%
\fbox{\texttt{\small%
#1%
}}% texttt fbox
}%
% === End preamble part of Char style fboxed ===
EndPreamble
End
Re: how to use custom character styles
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:11, Hellmut Weber wrote: > Hi Steve, > > > I can. LyX is smart enough that it doesn't offer that option in the > > Insert menu until you've created at least one character style. The minute > > you successfully create a character style, "Character Style" will appear > > asan option on your Insert submenu. > > I'm surprised because in my installation (gentoo-linux, kde-3.5.7, > > tetex-3.0, lyx-1.5.0rc1) it appears here: > >>Edit >TextStyle > > > then there appears a submenu: > > Customized... > > Capitalize > Uppercase > Lowercase Thanks Hellmut, Jeremy and I are using 1.4.x. Sounds like 1.5.x is better and more sophisticated. Something to look forward to. I hope with 1.5.x I can still do it the way I do it in 1.4.x, because the way I've been doing it can create almost any conceivable text appearance. In my new book "Learn Vim Tonight: Use the Worlds Most Productive Editor Tomorrow" I had a text style called ex, which I used only on the word ex (the line editor part of vi) so that it stood out, looked funky, and was immediately recognizable as a special word. Thanks SteveT
Re: how to use custom character styles
Hi Steve, i don't have much experience so far with Char Styles, but i'm pretty sure you can do everything you want, i.e. possible with a latex command. Jeremy and I are using 1.4.x. Sounds like 1.5.x is better and more sophisticated. Something to look forward to. I suppose we will get very quickly used to the new menus. For me LyX is probably the most used too of all. Good Luck with your books Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
