Re: Google problems again
This is why I use Startpage www.startpage.com results are organized into headings and there is nothing inaccessible. Best of all at least with Firefox you can install the search engine and make it your default all from within the site. Christopher Hallsworth On 27/11/2012 03:02, Brian Fischler wrote: Well Google did it again. Not sure how anyone in the world can say google cares about accessibility and the fact that there is a Google Access Twitter account is absolutely laughable. They changed how Google search results come up, and go figure you used to be able to click on search tools as a lot of time I need to search for results in the last week, now I can't seem to find that anywhere. Just a bunch of inaccessible pop down boxes and stuff when you click on it it does nothing. How anyone in the world can think Google is a progressive thinking company when it comes to accessibility blows my mind. And someone of you are excited for the google self driving car? Seriously you are going to trust a company to put you behind the wheel that can't seem to ever made one positive step forward with their search engine or google apps. Seriously it is laughable. Anyway, had to vent a little, but if anyone has figure out how to do a search for the last week or 24 hours, please do let me know -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mactubes
You're welcome! I love being unable to confirm bad news - lol! Enjoy! -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > Hi Cheryl > Wow, thanks for not confirming my worst fears. I just downloaded something. > Thanks for your help. I had tried to use vo shift m but not in the right > place. > Cool. Thanks a million. > > Lisette > > On 27/11/2012, at 6:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > >> No, I can't confirm that because I am downloading using MacTubes right this >> minute as I have been doing since I got this app. I do my search, start my >> song playing, then do vokeys-shift-m on the player menu and arrow down to >> download and choose my option; usually hd and mp4 are available. >> >> Hth. >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> May the words of my mouth >> and the meditation of my heart >> be acceptable to You, Lord, >> my rock and my Redeemer. >> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) >> >> >> >> On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Can someone confirm that it is definitely not possible to download audio >>> from YouTube videos using MacTubes? I can play videos fine. >>> I can't see any options for it in the programme, and I know YouTube clamped >>> down on converting its videos into mp3 a while ago. >>> I thought I might be overlooking something. Thanks. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mactubes
Hi Cheryl Wow, thanks for not confirming my worst fears. I just downloaded something. Thanks for your help. I had tried to use vo shift m but not in the right place. Cool. Thanks a million. Lisette On 27/11/2012, at 6:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > No, I can't confirm that because I am downloading using MacTubes right this > minute as I have been doing since I got this app. I do my search, start my > song playing, then do vokeys-shift-m on the player menu and arrow down to > download and choose my option; usually hd and mp4 are available. > > Hth. > > -- > Cheryl > > May the words of my mouth > and the meditation of my heart > be acceptable to You, Lord, > my rock and my Redeemer. > (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) > > > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > >> Hi, >> Can someone confirm that it is definitely not possible to download audio >> from YouTube videos using MacTubes? I can play videos fine. >> I can't see any options for it in the programme, and I know YouTube clamped >> down on converting its videos into mp3 a while ago. >> I thought I might be overlooking something. Thanks. >> >> Lisette >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
how to make Safari remember passwords
Hi there, How can I cause Safari to remember passwords? Just did an OS reinstall and lost everything and still getting it back. thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google problems again
indeed, plus, it took me three times reading your e-mail to understand what your problem was amongst the useless criticism which didn't even allowed me to understand what your issue with google was for a while. On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:44 PM, "Blake Sinnett" wrote: > Actually, the blame should be placed on Apple for not supporting all of the > HTML elements correctly in VoiceOver. FYI, the search tools link is not far > above the results heading. That brings up several options, one of them being > the time option you're looking for. You then need to find the text that says > any time. Press VO-Command-F5 to route the mouse to it and click. That should > expand it and let you choose the time you need. > > I hate saying this, but I have no problems with Firefox and NVDA on Windows. > All the element attributes are reported correctly. The any time text shows as > clickable. I press enter and away I go. The web browsing experience on the > Mac still has a little way to go. It's 95% there now, but full support of > element attribute reporting and interaction among a couple other things and > it'll be perfect. > > HTH, > Blake > > -- > From: "Brian Fischler" > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:02 PM > To: "MacVisionaries" > Subject: Google problems again > >> Well Google did it again. Not sure how anyone in the world can say >> google cares about accessibility and the fact that there is a Google >> Access Twitter account is absolutely laughable. They changed how >> Google search results come up, and go figure you used to be able to >> click on search tools as a lot of time I need to search for results in >> the last week, now I can't seem to find that anywhere. Just a bunch of >> inaccessible pop down boxes and stuff when you click on it it does >> nothing. How anyone in the world can think Google is a progressive >> thinking company when it comes to accessibility blows my mind. And >> someone of you are excited for the google self driving car? Seriously >> you are going to trust a company to put you behind the wheel that >> can't seem to ever made one positive step forward with their search >> engine or google apps. Seriously it is laughable. Anyway, had to vent >> a little, but if anyone has figure out how to do a search for the last >> week or 24 hours, please do let me know >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mactubes
No, I can't confirm that because I am downloading using MacTubes right this minute as I have been doing since I got this app. I do my search, start my song playing, then do vokeys-shift-m on the player menu and arrow down to download and choose my option; usually hd and mp4 are available. Hth. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > Hi, > Can someone confirm that it is definitely not possible to download audio from > YouTube videos using MacTubes? I can play videos fine. > I can't see any options for it in the programme, and I know YouTube clamped > down on converting its videos into mp3 a while ago. > I thought I might be overlooking something. Thanks. > > Lisette > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google problems again
I was just going to say that! Works great with nvda. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:44 PM, "Blake Sinnett" wrote: > Actually, the blame should be placed on Apple for not supporting all of the > HTML elements correctly in VoiceOver. FYI, the search tools link is not far > above the results heading. That brings up several options, one of them being > the time option you're looking for. You then need to find the text that says > any time. Press VO-Command-F5 to route the mouse to it and click. That should > expand it and let you choose the time you need. > > I hate saying this, but I have no problems with Firefox and NVDA on Windows. > All the element attributes are reported correctly. The any time text shows as > clickable. I press enter and away I go. The web browsing experience on the > Mac still has a little way to go. It's 95% there now, but full support of > element attribute reporting and interaction among a couple other things and > it'll be perfect. > > HTH, > Blake > > -- > From: "Brian Fischler" > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:02 PM > To: "MacVisionaries" > Subject: Google problems again > >> Well Google did it again. Not sure how anyone in the world can say >> google cares about accessibility and the fact that there is a Google >> Access Twitter account is absolutely laughable. They changed how >> Google search results come up, and go figure you used to be able to >> click on search tools as a lot of time I need to search for results in >> the last week, now I can't seem to find that anywhere. Just a bunch of >> inaccessible pop down boxes and stuff when you click on it it does >> nothing. How anyone in the world can think Google is a progressive >> thinking company when it comes to accessibility blows my mind. And >> someone of you are excited for the google self driving car? Seriously >> you are going to trust a company to put you behind the wheel that >> can't seem to ever made one positive step forward with their search >> engine or google apps. Seriously it is laughable. Anyway, had to vent >> a little, but if anyone has figure out how to do a search for the last >> week or 24 hours, please do let me know >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google problems again
Actually, the blame should be placed on Apple for not supporting all of the HTML elements correctly in VoiceOver. FYI, the search tools link is not far above the results heading. That brings up several options, one of them being the time option you're looking for. You then need to find the text that says any time. Press VO-Command-F5 to route the mouse to it and click. That should expand it and let you choose the time you need. I hate saying this, but I have no problems with Firefox and NVDA on Windows. All the element attributes are reported correctly. The any time text shows as clickable. I press enter and away I go. The web browsing experience on the Mac still has a little way to go. It's 95% there now, but full support of element attribute reporting and interaction among a couple other things and it'll be perfect. HTH, Blake -- From: "Brian Fischler" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:02 PM To: "MacVisionaries" Subject: Google problems again Well Google did it again. Not sure how anyone in the world can say google cares about accessibility and the fact that there is a Google Access Twitter account is absolutely laughable. They changed how Google search results come up, and go figure you used to be able to click on search tools as a lot of time I need to search for results in the last week, now I can't seem to find that anywhere. Just a bunch of inaccessible pop down boxes and stuff when you click on it it does nothing. How anyone in the world can think Google is a progressive thinking company when it comes to accessibility blows my mind. And someone of you are excited for the google self driving car? Seriously you are going to trust a company to put you behind the wheel that can't seem to ever made one positive step forward with their search engine or google apps. Seriously it is laughable. Anyway, had to vent a little, but if anyone has figure out how to do a search for the last week or 24 hours, please do let me know -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mactubes
Hi, Can someone confirm that it is definitely not possible to download audio from YouTube videos using MacTubes? I can play videos fine. I can't see any options for it in the programme, and I know YouTube clamped down on converting its videos into mp3 a while ago. I thought I might be overlooking something. Thanks. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Memory upgrade
Do you know which model/year they are. I haven't done an upgrade to mine but I think newer (Mid 2010 or later) models you just turn the base to open it up and snap in bigger modules. Before that it was careful work with a putty knife to pry open the case and not crack it. If it's a newer model you might try it yourself or maybe the folks at the genius bar could even do it. Which memory depends on which model as well which effects the cost. So if you had a mid-year 2010 mini it takes PC-8500 DDR3 RAM: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4223 8GB of RAM (the max for this model) from Other World Computing is about $50: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Apple_Mac_mini/DDR3 CB On 11/21/12 1:15 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: I have two Mac minis and both of them need a memory upgrade desperately. I notice a lot of trouble especially now that I have mountain lion. Could someone tell me how much it costs? Also, is this something I need to have the Apple Store do for me? I'm assuming that it is, and that I will need to call to make an appointment. Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a note on running a Mini with no monitor
Ok, let's try this. Again, go to your utilities folder and open activity monitor. Is anything in there consuming a large amount of processor resources? Sometimes left over print jobs can do this. On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Hello Mike and all, > As you suggested, Mike, I opened up system information.app and my Mac Mini > shows that it has a monitor connected. It's the same monitor that was > connected before I tried running without one. I am totally at a loss. Today > when I rebooted the system it ran even poorer than it did yesterday. Even > with just finder running, it is slow and the speech can't say a single > sentence without breaking up. > > Kristeen > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> This was my conclusion as well and in my old post I provided links to some >> wiring schematics to make a VGA terminator. All the places I could find >> which sold VGA terminators seem to no longer have them in stock. The sense >> pins indicate what resolution the connected display is running and my >> assumption was that with nothing connected the Mac polls continually for >> that information but never gets it. It's hard to tell whether this happens >> at a hardware level or some other API call which fails to return quickly >> because it is waiting on the sense pin results which never come. >> >> CB >> >> On 11/26/12 11:54 AM, - wrote: >>> >>> It is interesting that a monitor without power previntes the mac system >>> slowdown. This sounds as though the mac does a form of a ping to query from >>> time to time what is attached. If it doesn't recieve a return signal >>> instantly it does it again and/or waits for a determined time before >>> allowing an application to resume activity. >>> >>> If this is the case, any return signal is not being generated by the >>> monitor but the circuit is made at the socket and passes it back to the >>> mac. It would then in principle be possible to find the wire pairs in the >>> vga socket and make the return circuit absent a monitor. >>> >>> XB >>> >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
Hi Cheryl,
Been there, done that . Sometimes I want to find imported items in
iTunes that were not recently added, but which may have problematic tagging,
and I find it easiest to use the "Recently Added" smart playlist but just edit
it to temporarily change the date added in the rules section from "2" weeks to
"4" weeks, or "2 months", etc. That's why I added the comments about moving to
the "Recently Added" smart playlist in the sources list, bringing up the
context menu with VO-Shift-M, and selecting "Edit smart playlist" in the menu.
You only need to arrow over to the "rules section" and interact, then navigate
to the first rule that is "Date added in the last 2 weeks". You can just type
a different number in the text box to make this 4 weeks, or you can VO-space on
the pop up button for "weeks" and change this to "months" or "days". Or you
can do any combination of the above and then press the "OK" button (or just
press the "return" key) to have your new rules take effect.
There's another way to make finding untagged tracks easier, and that's to use
the column browser in combination with your "Recently Added" smart playlist to
find entries that you need to tag. While focused on the "Recently Added" smart
playlist in the sources list, navigate to the iTunes menu bar to the "View"
menu (VO-M or Control-F2 to the menu bar, then press "v"), arrow down, press
"c" to move to the "Column browser" then right arrow to the submenu and arrow
down to any entries you want displayed in the column browser, such as "Artists"
or "Albums". (You'll have to navigate to this sub-menu each time you want to
check or uncheck any of the selections.) I have the options for "Artists",
"Albums", and "Genres" checked, along with view mode "on top", which used to be
the default setup in iTunes before version 8, but this is entirely optional.
Now, when I select the "Recently Added" smart playlist I can also toggle the
column browser between show and hide modes with Command-B. The column browser
adds a set of columns for my checked selections of "Artists" and "Albums" that
appears before the tracks in the songs table. If I navigate to "Albums" and
select "Unknown Album", then only the tracks in my "Recently Added" smart
playlist that don't have album tags will show up in the songs table, and I can
select any of them for tagging. If I only added one album, I can select all
(with Command-A) and then do a Command-I ("get info") to edit their tag fields.
HTH. Cheers,
Esther
On Nov 26, 2012, at 15:07, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Oh yeah, that's true. I had forgotten this because sometimes when i did this
> the items were not recently added. Sorry for making it complicated!
>
> --
> Cheryl
>
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Esther wrote:
>
>> Hi Phil and Others,
>>
>> You can always find items that you add to iTunes, even with no tag
>> information, by selecting the "Recenly Added" smart playlist in the
>> sources list. Then use VO-J or else navigate with your arrow keys to
>> the list of tracks, which will appear in the chronological order they
>> were added to iTunes. Use VO-J again to jump back to the smart
>> playlist in the sources list. The "Recently Added" smart playlist
>> contains all tracks added to iTunes in the last two weeks that are not
>> flagged as podcasts. You can modify the criteria in the rules section
>> to change this (e.g. to make this tracks added in the last day, or
>> over a specific date range) by using the context menu (VO-Shift-M)
>> when focused on this smart playlist to choose the option to edit the
>> smart playlist. Alternatively, you can create your own smart playlist
>> based on date added and any tag information you may have.
>>
>> You can also identify the untagged tracks by pressing space bar to
>> play/pause tracks in your smart playlist, then arrow down to the next
>> and use space bar to play/pause the next track. Then you can select a
>> bunch of these tracks by holding down your shift key while you arrow
>> down through the group you want, and do a Command-I ("get info") to
>> edit the tag fields for album and artist.
>>
>> HTH. Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>> Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder:
>>>
>>> ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>>
>>> How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were
>>> untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for
>>> their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them
>>> anywhere in my iTunes library.
>>>
>>> This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded
>>> into the musi
Re: vo randomly restarts in safari
Yup. That has been an ongoing fight for years going back to the Web Standard Project and Jeffry Zeldman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Standards_Project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Zeldman I use the canary and future proofing arguments with developers all the time to try and convince them to fix bad stuff under the hood, which generally makes screen readers work better. CB On 11/26/12 10:09 PM, James Mannion wrote: You make some good points that I can't disagree with. If we could just have developed standards and have them used, that would take us down the best route I think. On 11/26/12, Chris Blouch wrote: There are a couple difficulties with the secret repair approach: 1. It enables developers to continue with bad habits which they will apply to more and more pages over time. At some point they need to learn to stop doing bad things. Often time the bad behavior also conflicts with web standards and best practices so sloppy code will break other things down the road (canary in the coal mine scenarios). The show up as weird intermittent hard to track down issues which burn up developer time 'fixing accessibility'. 2. The automated repair techniques can also get it wrong, making correct page code do bad things, or do the repair incorrectly in some situations. This makes some bugs hard to track down since a chunk of bad code in one situation works ok but fails in the other leaving the developer scratching their heads and just saying the screen readers are buggy, inconsistent and therefore accessibility is just to much work. 3. It's a black hole for screen reader developer time. I'm sure the Jaws, NVDA or VoiceOver developers can pretty quickly define how much implementation time it will take to parse correct HTML and give a reasonable text representation, but how many use cases and scenarios are there to implement for handling all the incorrect HTML? An infinite number of monkeys and typewriters might be able to do that but most companies have finite budgets, even Apple. CB On 11/24/12 2:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: I would say if the screen reader can "fix" bad code and make it work the way it should have, please do it! There are more than plenty of instances where you will never get the developer to fix it or even begin to care. If you do then there are advantages to that, but who knows how many weeks, months or years it would take for that to happen. So how about if the screen reader told you it corrected something, allowed you to turn that functionality off if you really wanted to and then you could get tings done and then take all your time trying to right the world in Nigotiations with the developer if you wanted to. Have fun. On 11/24/12, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Got it. That's really interesting. I like this way of philosophie. But on the other hand for a "simple" user the most important seems to be that the screen reader just works. The "average" user is probably not interested in technical back ground stuff but in just working with a web side as easily as possible. Eventually that's Apples philosophie in all there products for sighted customers. I wished they tried to implement some stuff in VO to compensate bad code from web side developers. In the end it takes my time to surf a web side not theirs. But thanks again for your explanation. It gives me more clarity. Jürgen Am 24.11.2012 um 01:45 schrieb Chris Blouch : One problem with Jaws is that it will attempt to 'repair' bad HTML under the hood. For testing this masks errors in a site from developers such that Jaws might work ok but other screen readers are not as tolerant of bad code in a particular setup. VoiceOver on Mac and NVDA on Windows do not attempt to repair bad code and rely on developers doing the right thing to begin with. This philosophical difference means comparisons of compatibility between Jaws and any other screen reader/browser combo just isn't going to match. CB On 11/22/12 11:18 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: That happens here as well. Apple probably will tell you that it depends how the side is built. I recently discribed to them the issue that VO quite often doesn't interact with a web page, despite the fact that it's checked in the the VO settings. They told me it depends on the web side not on VO. My impression is Safari is not built to support all the possibilities of VoiceOver. And so it seems not to work reliablly. But I wonder why it works in Internet Explorer and Jaws on the same side. Maybe the structure of Internet Explorer allows a better compatibility to a screen reader. I don't know. But if it is not a VO issue and it works in Windows screen readers it might be so. Am 20.11.2012 um 18:53 schrieb Alex Hall : Hi all, Every so often, when I load or reload a page, vo will restart. I will hear "Voiceover on" after several seconds of intense activity from the hard drive, and things will proceed normally from there. Why would vo be crashing, and are there logs I could use to pinpoint t
Re: vo randomly restarts in safari
You make some good points that I can't disagree with. If we could just have developed standards and have them used, that would take us down the best route I think. On 11/26/12, Chris Blouch wrote: > There are a couple difficulties with the secret repair approach: > > 1. It enables developers to continue with bad habits which they will > apply to more and more pages over time. At some point they need to learn > to stop doing bad things. Often time the bad behavior also conflicts > with web standards and best practices so sloppy code will break other > things down the road (canary in the coal mine scenarios). The show up as > weird intermittent hard to track down issues which burn up developer > time 'fixing accessibility'. > > 2. The automated repair techniques can also get it wrong, making correct > page code do bad things, or do the repair incorrectly in some > situations. This makes some bugs hard to track down since a chunk of bad > code in one situation works ok but fails in the other leaving the > developer scratching their heads and just saying the screen readers are > buggy, inconsistent and therefore accessibility is just to much work. > > 3. It's a black hole for screen reader developer time. I'm sure the > Jaws, NVDA or VoiceOver developers can pretty quickly define how much > implementation time it will take to parse correct HTML and give a > reasonable text representation, but how many use cases and scenarios are > there to implement for handling all the incorrect HTML? An infinite > number of monkeys and typewriters might be able to do that but most > companies have finite budgets, even Apple. > > CB > > On 11/24/12 2:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: >> I would say if the screen reader can "fix" bad code and make it work >> the way it should have, please do it! There are more than plenty of >> instances where you will never get the developer to fix it or even >> begin to care. If you do then there are advantages to that, but who >> knows how many weeks, months or years it would take for that to >> happen. So how about if the screen reader told you it corrected >> something, allowed you to turn that functionality off if you really >> wanted to and then you could get tings done and then take all your >> time trying to right the world in Nigotiations with the developer if >> you wanted to. Have fun. >> >> On 11/24/12, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>> Got it. That's really interesting. I like this way of philosophie. But >>> on >>> the other hand for a "simple" user the most important seems to be that >>> the >>> screen reader just works. The "average" user is probably not interested >>> in >>> technical back ground stuff but in just working with a web side as easily >>> as >>> possible. Eventually that's Apples philosophie in all there products for >>> sighted customers. >>> I wished they tried to implement some stuff in VO to compensate bad code >>> from web side developers. In the end it takes my time to surf a web side >>> not >>> theirs. >>> But thanks again for your explanation. It gives me more clarity. >>> Jürgen >>> >>> Am 24.11.2012 um 01:45 schrieb Chris Blouch : >>> One problem with Jaws is that it will attempt to 'repair' bad HTML under the hood. For testing this masks errors in a site from developers such that Jaws might work ok but other screen readers are not as tolerant of bad code in a particular setup. VoiceOver on Mac and NVDA on Windows do not attempt to repair bad code and rely on developers doing the right thing to begin with. This philosophical difference means comparisons of compatibility between Jaws and any other screen reader/browser combo just isn't going to match. CB On 11/22/12 11:18 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > That happens here as well. Apple probably will tell you that it > depends > how the side is built. > I recently discribed to them the issue that VO quite often doesn't > interact with a web page, despite the fact that it's checked in the > the > VO settings. They told me it depends on the web side not on VO. My > impression is Safari is not built to support all the possibilities of > VoiceOver. And so it seems not to work reliablly. But I wonder why it > works in Internet Explorer and Jaws on the same side. Maybe the > structure > of Internet Explorer allows a better compatibility to a screen reader. > I > don't know. But if it is not a VO issue and it works in Windows screen > readers it might be so. > > Am 20.11.2012 um 18:53 schrieb Alex Hall : > >> Hi all, >> Every so often, when I load or reload a page, vo will restart. I will >> hear "Voiceover on" after several seconds of intense activity from >> the >> hard drive, and things will proceed normally from there. Why would vo >> be >> crashing, and are there logs I could use to pinpoint the problem or >> at >> least tell Apple what is going on
Google problems again
Well Google did it again. Not sure how anyone in the world can say google cares about accessibility and the fact that there is a Google Access Twitter account is absolutely laughable. They changed how Google search results come up, and go figure you used to be able to click on search tools as a lot of time I need to search for results in the last week, now I can't seem to find that anywhere. Just a bunch of inaccessible pop down boxes and stuff when you click on it it does nothing. How anyone in the world can think Google is a progressive thinking company when it comes to accessibility blows my mind. And someone of you are excited for the google self driving car? Seriously you are going to trust a company to put you behind the wheel that can't seem to ever made one positive step forward with their search engine or google apps. Seriously it is laughable. Anyway, had to vent a little, but if anyone has figure out how to do a search for the last week or 24 hours, please do let me know -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vo randomly restarts in safari
There are a couple difficulties with the secret repair approach: 1. It enables developers to continue with bad habits which they will apply to more and more pages over time. At some point they need to learn to stop doing bad things. Often time the bad behavior also conflicts with web standards and best practices so sloppy code will break other things down the road (canary in the coal mine scenarios). The show up as weird intermittent hard to track down issues which burn up developer time 'fixing accessibility'. 2. The automated repair techniques can also get it wrong, making correct page code do bad things, or do the repair incorrectly in some situations. This makes some bugs hard to track down since a chunk of bad code in one situation works ok but fails in the other leaving the developer scratching their heads and just saying the screen readers are buggy, inconsistent and therefore accessibility is just to much work. 3. It's a black hole for screen reader developer time. I'm sure the Jaws, NVDA or VoiceOver developers can pretty quickly define how much implementation time it will take to parse correct HTML and give a reasonable text representation, but how many use cases and scenarios are there to implement for handling all the incorrect HTML? An infinite number of monkeys and typewriters might be able to do that but most companies have finite budgets, even Apple. CB On 11/24/12 2:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: I would say if the screen reader can "fix" bad code and make it work the way it should have, please do it! There are more than plenty of instances where you will never get the developer to fix it or even begin to care. If you do then there are advantages to that, but who knows how many weeks, months or years it would take for that to happen. So how about if the screen reader told you it corrected something, allowed you to turn that functionality off if you really wanted to and then you could get tings done and then take all your time trying to right the world in Nigotiations with the developer if you wanted to. Have fun. On 11/24/12, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Got it. That's really interesting. I like this way of philosophie. But on the other hand for a "simple" user the most important seems to be that the screen reader just works. The "average" user is probably not interested in technical back ground stuff but in just working with a web side as easily as possible. Eventually that's Apples philosophie in all there products for sighted customers. I wished they tried to implement some stuff in VO to compensate bad code from web side developers. In the end it takes my time to surf a web side not theirs. But thanks again for your explanation. It gives me more clarity. Jürgen Am 24.11.2012 um 01:45 schrieb Chris Blouch : One problem with Jaws is that it will attempt to 'repair' bad HTML under the hood. For testing this masks errors in a site from developers such that Jaws might work ok but other screen readers are not as tolerant of bad code in a particular setup. VoiceOver on Mac and NVDA on Windows do not attempt to repair bad code and rely on developers doing the right thing to begin with. This philosophical difference means comparisons of compatibility between Jaws and any other screen reader/browser combo just isn't going to match. CB On 11/22/12 11:18 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: That happens here as well. Apple probably will tell you that it depends how the side is built. I recently discribed to them the issue that VO quite often doesn't interact with a web page, despite the fact that it's checked in the the VO settings. They told me it depends on the web side not on VO. My impression is Safari is not built to support all the possibilities of VoiceOver. And so it seems not to work reliablly. But I wonder why it works in Internet Explorer and Jaws on the same side. Maybe the structure of Internet Explorer allows a better compatibility to a screen reader. I don't know. But if it is not a VO issue and it works in Windows screen readers it might be so. Am 20.11.2012 um 18:53 schrieb Alex Hall : Hi all, Every so often, when I load or reload a page, vo will restart. I will hear "Voiceover on" after several seconds of intense activity from the hard drive, and things will proceed normally from there. Why would vo be crashing, and are there logs I could use to pinpoint the problem or at least tell Apple what is going on? Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send
Re: zinio on the i pad
Wow, ok, thanks, Mary. Too bad, but at least it works great on the i phone. Caitlyn On 2012-11-26, at 7:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > I was never able to read anything using zinio on the IPad. Works great on my > 4S, but nothing doing on my original iPad. > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
Oh yeah, that's true. I had forgotten this because sometimes when i did this
the items were not recently added. Sorry for making it complicated!
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Nov 26, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Phil and Others,
>
> You can always find items that you add to iTunes, even with no tag
> information, by selecting the "Recenly Added" smart playlist in the
> sources list. Then use VO-J or else navigate with your arrow keys to
> the list of tracks, which will appear in the chronological order they
> were added to iTunes. Use VO-J again to jump back to the smart
> playlist in the sources list. The "Recently Added" smart playlist
> contains all tracks added to iTunes in the last two weeks that are not
> flagged as podcasts. You can modify the criteria in the rules section
> to change this (e.g. to make this tracks added in the last day, or
> over a specific date range) by using the context menu (VO-Shift-M)
> when focused on this smart playlist to choose the option to edit the
> smart playlist. Alternatively, you can create your own smart playlist
> based on date added and any tag information you may have.
>
> You can also identify the untagged tracks by pressing space bar to
> play/pause tracks in your smart playlist, then arrow down to the next
> and use space bar to play/pause the next track. Then you can select a
> bunch of these tracks by holding down your shift key while you arrow
> down through the group you want, and do a Command-I ("get info") to
> edit the tag fields for album and artist.
>
> HTH. Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>> Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder:
>>
>> ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were
>> untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for
>> their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them
>> anywhere in my iTunes library.
>>
>> This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded
>> into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them.
>>
>
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Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
If they were imported they would be harder to find without an artist and album. If you arrange your library according to the date added the most recently added files will be either at the bottom or the top in your music library. You do this by getting on the date added column and doing vokeys-c to make sure you are on the right column and then doing vo-shift-backslash if you want to order by that column. You may just be able to look down the column to find the right date without rearranging anything. If you don't have a "date added" in the music browser, do cmd-j for the viewing options and check the date added box and then press ok or just press return. If you aren't in the music browser view, you change this by doing vokeys-m and going over to the view column and changing to this; there might be a quicker way to change to that view but I can't think of it right now. Before I figured this out, I had quite a few entries in my library I didn't know about since the album and artist were blank. Hth. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:39 PM, "Phil Halton" wrote: > Chris, turns out the files I was importing were corrupted. Even though, I > thought I'd find the corrupted files in iTunes. I'm assuming it was the > corruption factor that did something to make the files invisible - maybe they > were'nt actually imported. > > - Original Message - > From: Chris Blouch > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes > > Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder: > > ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album > > CB > > On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >> How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were untagged >> mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for their file >> names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere in my >> iTunes library. >> >> This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded into >> the music library, but I've looked and can't find them. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
As usual, Esther, your clear, concise, exceedingly helpful, and professional
response is deeply appreciated. :)
Christine
On Nov 26, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Phil and Others,
>
> You can always find items that you add to iTunes, even with no tag
> information, by selecting the "Recenly Added" smart playlist in the
> sources list. Then use VO-J or else navigate with your arrow keys to
> the list of tracks, which will appear in the chronological order they
> were added to iTunes. Use VO-J again to jump back to the smart
> playlist in the sources list. The "Recently Added" smart playlist
> contains all tracks added to iTunes in the last two weeks that are not
> flagged as podcasts. You can modify the criteria in the rules section
> to change this (e.g. to make this tracks added in the last day, or
> over a specific date range) by using the context menu (VO-Shift-M)
> when focused on this smart playlist to choose the option to edit the
> smart playlist. Alternatively, you can create your own smart playlist
> based on date added and any tag information you may have.
>
> You can also identify the untagged tracks by pressing space bar to
> play/pause tracks in your smart playlist, then arrow down to the next
> and use space bar to play/pause the next track. Then you can select a
> bunch of these tracks by holding down your shift key while you arrow
> down through the group you want, and do a Command-I ("get info") to
> edit the tag fields for album and artist.
>
> HTH. Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>> Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder:
>>
>> ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>
>> How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were
>> untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for
>> their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them
>> anywhere in my iTunes library.
>>
>> This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded
>> into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them.
>>
>
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Re: zinio on the i pad
I was never able to read anything using zinio on the IPad. Works great on my 4S, but nothing doing on my original iPad. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
zinio on the i pad
Hi, Is anybody successfully using zinio to read magazines on the i pad 2? I have it on my i phone and love it and use it all the time to read magazines I'm subscribed to, but am having problems reading the same magazines on my i pad. It seems to default to showing images of the pages instead of text like the i phone, which gives you the choice.. anyone know how to fix this? I've looked around and can't seem to find anything obvious.. Thanks a bunch if you can help, if not I'll just use this app on my phone. Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a note on running a Mini with no monitor
wow, I have a mac mini mid 2010 is this still one that runs with the fake monitor adaptor thing? I find it works ok for me but now I am wondering if I would get better performance if I hooked up a real monitor. Does anyone know with which version of mini this changes/ Thanks, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Nov 25, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Right, I never turn the monitor on that attached to either of my mac minis, > still, it's annoying that it requires that. Fortunately I already had these > monitors, it would be difficult to justify buying a monitor that I would not > use. > On Nov 25, 2012, at 7:07 PM, "Jesus Garcia" wrote: > >> No the cable alone is not sufficient the machine needs to see a monitor at >> the other end of the connection. However it does not have to be turned on so >> far as I have been able to determine. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 19:06 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: a note on running a Mini with no monitor >> >> With the older minis, there was an adapter you could get that allowed the >> mini's dvi port to connect to a regular TV. If this adapter was connected, >> the mini would work fine. That doesn't work on the newer minis though. >> Depending on what mini you have, it probably has a mini display port, and >> either a mini dvi port or HDMI port. With these, the only way I have found >> to make this work is to connect a monitor of some kind, I don't think just >> the cable is sufficient, I could be wrong there though. >> On Nov 25, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I am way too nice and let a friend have my vga cable. I now have no >> monitor hooked up to my Mini, which is running 10.8.2, and said mini would >> be glaring at me if it could. It is slow to do just about everything, and >> nothing is running now that was not running when I shut down a couple days >> ago. So, for me at least, a monitor is indeed essential. Now I just have to >> pray for a vga cable to fall out of the sky... >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
Hi Phil and Others,
You can always find items that you add to iTunes, even with no tag
information, by selecting the "Recenly Added" smart playlist in the
sources list. Then use VO-J or else navigate with your arrow keys to
the list of tracks, which will appear in the chronological order they
were added to iTunes. Use VO-J again to jump back to the smart
playlist in the sources list. The "Recently Added" smart playlist
contains all tracks added to iTunes in the last two weeks that are not
flagged as podcasts. You can modify the criteria in the rules section
to change this (e.g. to make this tracks added in the last day, or
over a specific date range) by using the context menu (VO-Shift-M)
when focused on this smart playlist to choose the option to edit the
smart playlist. Alternatively, you can create your own smart playlist
based on date added and any tag information you may have.
You can also identify the untagged tracks by pressing space bar to
play/pause tracks in your smart playlist, then arrow down to the next
and use space bar to play/pause the next track. Then you can select a
bunch of these tracks by holding down your shift key while you arrow
down through the group you want, and do a Command-I ("get info") to
edit the tag fields for album and artist.
HTH. Cheers,
Esther
> On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
> Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder:
>
> ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album
>
> CB
>
> On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>
> How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were
> untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for
> their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere
> in my iTunes library.
>
> This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded
> into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them.
>
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Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
christine, it's really not nice to hyjack a topic, ya know. It's simple enough to just start a new thread. It's not just for me, people searching the archives will get the hyjacked thread to. hyjacking is when you change the direction of a message thread to something other than the origional topic. . - Original Message - From: Christine Grassman To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes Speaking of this, I am having trouble editing information for imports. I try to modify the fields in info, and I receive an error sound. Christine On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder: ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album CB On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote: How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere in my iTunes library. This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
Chris, turns out the files I was importing were corrupted. Even though, I thought I'd find the corrupted files in iTunes. I'm assuming it was the corruption factor that did something to make the files invisible - maybe they were'nt actually imported. - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder: ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album CB On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote: How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere in my iTunes library. This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
Speaking of this, I am having trouble editing information for imports. I try to modify the fields in info, and I receive an error sound. Christine On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder: > > ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album > > CB > > On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >> How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were untagged >> mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for their file >> names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere in my >> iTunes library. >> >> This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded into >> the music library, but I've looked and can't find them. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding mp3 imports in iTunes
Should be in there somewhere. All my random MP3s were in the folder: ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album CB On 11/26/12 4:36 PM, Phil Halton wrote: How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere in my iTunes library. This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Ż\_(?)_/Ż -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
finding mp3 imports in iTunes
How can I find the mp3 files I just imported into iTunes? They were untagged mp3's, but I thought I could at least find them by searching for their file names in the music folder, but no luck. I can't find them anywhere in my iTunes library. This is crazy, can you help? I know that mp3's are by default loaded into the music library, but I've looked and can't find them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a note on running a Mini with no monitor
Hello Mike and all, As you suggested, Mike, I opened up system information.app and my Mac Mini shows that it has a monitor connected. It's the same monitor that was connected before I tried running without one. I am totally at a loss. Today when I rebooted the system it ran even poorer than it did yesterday. Even with just finder running, it is slow and the speech can't say a single sentence without breaking up. Kristeen On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > This was my conclusion as well and in my old post I provided links to some > wiring schematics to make a VGA terminator. All the places I could find which > sold VGA terminators seem to no longer have them in stock. The sense pins > indicate what resolution the connected display is running and my assumption > was that with nothing connected the Mac polls continually for that > information but never gets it. It's hard to tell whether this happens at a > hardware level or some other API call which fails to return quickly because > it is waiting on the sense pin results which never come. > > CB > > On 11/26/12 11:54 AM, - wrote: >> >> It is interesting that a monitor without power previntes the mac system >> slowdown. This sounds as though the mac does a form of a ping to query from >> time to time what is attached. If it doesn't recieve a return signal >> instantly it does it again and/or waits for a determined time before >> allowing an application to resume activity. >> >> If this is the case, any return signal is not being generated by the monitor >> but the circuit is made at the socket and passes it back to the mac. It >> would then in principle be possible to find the wire pairs in the vga socket >> and make the return circuit absent a monitor. >> >> XB >> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a note on running a Mini with no monitor
This was my conclusion as well and in my old post I provided links to some wiring schematics to make a VGA terminator. All the places I could find which sold VGA terminators seem to no longer have them in stock. The sense pins indicate what resolution the connected display is running and my assumption was that with nothing connected the Mac polls continually for that information but never gets it. It's hard to tell whether this happens at a hardware level or some other API call which fails to return quickly because it is waiting on the sense pin results which never come. CB On 11/26/12 11:54 AM, - wrote: It is interesting that a monitor without power previntes the mac system slowdown. This sounds as though the mac does a form of a ping to query from time to time what is attached. If it doesn't recieve a return signal instantly it does it again and/or waits for a determined time before allowing an application to resume activity. If this is the case, any return signal is not being generated by the monitor but the circuit is made at the socket and passes it back to the mac. It would then in principle be possible to find the wire pairs in the vga socket and make the return circuit absent a monitor. XB -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a note on running a Mini with no monitor
It is interesting that a monitor without power previntes the mac system slowdown. This sounds as though the mac does a form of a ping to query from time to time what is attached. If it doesn't recieve a return signal instantly it does it again and/or waits for a determined time before allowing an application to resume activity. If this is the case, any return signal is not being generated by the monitor but the circuit is made at the socket and passes it back to the mac. It would then in principle be possible to find the wire pairs in the vga socket and make the return circuit absent a monitor. XB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
dragging and dropping samples in grageband without sited help
does anyone on this list if Apple would possibly be working on a fix for voiceover to be able to let a blind musician be able to drag and drop there own samples onto the onscreen keyboard without sited help? Other than that one problem I give Apple 2 thumbs up for the rest of the hard work and thought that they put into making garageband blind friendly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a reminder wanted and an observation about what happened to my Mail account
Okay, I seem to remember there were instructions about how to turn off the preview pain in mail; but, forgot how. A reminder please? I'm using ML. Also, I noticed that, when I configured my e-mail account, Apple mail set up my AT&T U-verse mail account as an Imap account. I thought that was strange because I thought that AT&T U-verse does not support Imap accounts. Also, now I think of it, I just entered my e-mail address, and Mail set it up as a yahoo Imap account. Is that normal; or can I get back my old settings? Can't seem to find the junk mail folder or the trash folder, but, I know they are there; or seem to be. It doesn't look like the normal table of boxes I'm used to seeing. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray E-Mail Address: rforetjr at att dot net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
need help with something in Voice Over configuration
Oh, what a mess I'm in now. Last night, I had to do a major OS reinstall. My Time machine disk went out on me, so, I wound up formatting the Macintosh HD and did a clean install. I lost absolutely everything; and so, I've spent the night through trying to revive the disk, but, without success. I just had one question. How do I change Voice Over so that when I pass over headings, it doesn't say, "heading level 1 and heading level 2 and so forth? Everything else, I think I can manage. Just have to manually download all my apps and recover all my keys. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray E-Mail Address: rforetjr at att dot net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clearing history
Hi there! When you are on the history in the menu bar arrow down to the very bottom and you should find clear history! hth colin On 26 Nov 2012, at 08:52, Stuart Russell wrote: > I should have mentioned that I am using the Safari browser with lion. > > Stuart > > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Stuart Russell wrote: > >> How do I clear all the items in my history list? >> >> Stuart >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clearing history
I should have mentioned that I am using the Safari browser with lion. Stuart On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Stuart Russell wrote: > How do I clear all the items in my history list? > > Stuart > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
clearing history
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