Re: Urgent help needed. How do I disable voiceover keys locked.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,


VO+; should do the trick.  Its a toggle.


Matthew



On 8/22/18 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone hi all, I was typing an email message and I heard the 
> message on voiceover say control option lock. Figured out that my voiceover 
> keys are locked on. Mac rendered completely unusable, at least to me. How do 
> I turn this off?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Urgent help needed. How do I disable voiceover keys locked.

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thank you!  I never use that feature!
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 22, 2018, at 6:56 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
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> you use vo+;
> 
> On Aug 22, 2018, at 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Sent from my iPhone hi all, I was typing an email message and I heard the 
> message on voiceover say control option lock. Figured out that my voiceover 
> keys are locked on. Mac rendered completely unusable, at least to me. How do 
> I turn this off?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Urgent help needed. How do I disable voiceover keys locked.

[alia robinson]

you use vo+;

On Aug 22, 2018, at 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Sent from my iPhone hi all, I was typing an email message and I heard the 
message on voiceover say control option lock. Figured out that my voiceover 
keys are locked on. Mac rendered completely unusable, at least to me. How do I 
turn this off?
Thanks,
Donna

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Urgent help needed. How do I disable voiceover keys locked.

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Sent from my iPhone hi all, I was typing an email message and I heard the 
message on voiceover say control option lock. Figured out that my voiceover 
keys are locked on. Mac rendered completely unusable, at least to me. How do I 
turn this off?
Thanks,
Donna

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Attention: Actilino Users with Macs; Urgent Help Needed

[Christine Grassman]

Please contact me off list so as not to clutter things up. Nutshell version if 
you haven’t seen my earlier posts: I cannot locate any USB devices on my 
MacBook Air, and it is particularly important that I transfer some files to the 
Actilino. This used to work just fine before.
Thanks.
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Eileen,
 For me personally,  speaking only for myself i consider low graphics 
environments to mirror   mobile ones sometimes.
these are browsers like links, and elinks, still under development on the 
open source side, but likely needing terminal to run Mac wise.  I did not 
use a mac for my test.  I was stunned that lynx, also still under 
development, generated an access denied error.
That might explain some of the other problems as well.  If the people 
maintaining these sites are not thinking strict keyboard response, i. e. 
they are using java scripting without making sure the java scripting still 
works with a keyboard, then many access platforms will have issues.
Someone else will have to guide you on  using a low graphics browser 
within the   apple arena.

Your comment on Social security had me wondering in return.
I am rather surprised  that the organization who spearheaded the 
requirement that the Social Security Administration  must provide 
communications in various formats  are not paying attention.
SSa has changed to some ..non document thing that requires some sort of 
player software instead of the  sort of rtf and readme.txt files that were 
there before.  The cd sent is not even formatted as a data one anymore.
Someone is not keeping track of how things are implemented in the long 
run.

Long answer to your short question smiles.
Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Eileen wrote:


Hi,

I would like to ask what is meant by low graphics and how is it achieved? I 
never heard of this term and would like to check it out myself. Currently, 
there are no positions open that would match my skill set, but for the future 
it would be great to be successful in submitting an application.

Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Actually Jason,   your suggestion flipped a switch.
My sister has been a federal staffer for decades for the Center for disease 
control.
Anyway I popped over to the usajobs.gov site in a low graphics, but java 
friendly browser.
There is a section  labeled "for people with disabilities,"
under this section, there is a directory of the sccp  staff by department.  
these people are specifically designated to facilitate application problems in 
their respective agencies.  Christine,  I do not recall the position you are 
seeking, but perhaps this is a direct door?
Hope this helps,
Kare



On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Jason White wrote:

Christine Grassman  wrote:

Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.


Interesting...

Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
relevant US government department.

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Eileen]

Hi,

I would like to ask what is meant by low graphics and how is it achieved? I 
never heard of this term and would like to check it out myself. Currently, 
there are no positions open that would match my skill set, but for the future 
it would be great to be successful in submitting an application. 

Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Actually Jason,   your suggestion flipped a switch.
> My sister has been a federal staffer for decades for the Center for disease 
> control.
> Anyway I popped over to the usajobs.gov site in a low graphics, but java 
> friendly browser.
> There is a section  labeled "for people with disabilities,"
> under this section, there is a directory of the sccp  staff by department.  
> these people are specifically designated to facilitate application problems 
> in their respective agencies.  Christine,  I do not recall the position you 
> are seeking, but perhaps this is a direct door?
> Hope this helps,
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Jason White wrote:
>> 
>> Christine Grassman  wrote:
>>> Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
>>> and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
>>> privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
>> 
>> Interesting...
>> 
>> Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
>> relevant US government department.
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Eileen]

Hi Christine,

To answer your question, no. I never pursued contacting anyone. If this is an 
accessibility issue, then maybe one of the blind national organizations may 
need to be contacted. I'm wondering how many more blind or visually impaired 
individuals have attempted to apply for a Federal position only to be 
confronted with an inaccessible website to submit the application. It was 
interesting to me when I wrote my senators that Senator Finestein took the time 
to actually read what I sent her regarding Social Security, but Senator Boxer 
was a form response. Let me know who to send my concerns about this. It takes a 
village to get Washington to recognize a real problem and in my eyes 
discrimination.

Thanks.

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Christine,
> call them.
> There is a reason in   the Liaison case.  i did not understand she was blind, 
> but deaf or a combination,   the office of public engagement helps facilitate 
> communications for Ms. Gordon.   there are some things not best for email you 
> know?
> 
> I would say the same for your representatives...especially the one with the 
> problem form.  Given anyone can send an email from anywhere, sometimes 
> putting human presence to problems makes a difference.
> As an interesting question, were you able to test things in a low graphics 
> environment?
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>> Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators 
>> and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a 
>> privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
>> Meanwhile, when I tried to locate a contact form for Claudia Gordon, who is 
>> ostensibly the liaison between the President’s administration and the 
>> disability community, the only thing I could find was an offer to contact 
>> the White House, since she is the disability liaison for the White House’s 
>> Office of Public Engagement. How likely do you think it is that my message 
>> will get through that barrage of correspondence?
>> Cherie, could you please clarify what you mean by “legacy solutions”? My 
>> husband works in a federal building and sees a reasonable number of disabled 
>> employees working for the various agencies.
>> Christine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
>>> accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
>>> mainstream.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
 
 Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison 
 for people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue 
 to a solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
 Kare
 
 
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
> 
> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing 
> user agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a 
> job that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying 
> to find a reliable method to complete the application process, the last 
> thing you want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows 
> at this point. We need to probably try to work together to get these 
> issues resolved for the future.
> 
> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and 
> in some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in 
> either late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with 
> whatever screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough 
> to document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It 
> would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just 
> work. But that's a utopia we may never enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear All:
> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I 
> have tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an 
> on-line job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly 
> and either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this 
> happened, or I had to hit “reload page”.
> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it 
> would not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I 
> checked with a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my 
> attempts have gotten thro

Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Actually Jason,   your suggestion flipped a switch.
My sister has been a federal staffer for decades for the Center for 
disease control.
Anyway I popped over to the usajobs.gov site in a low graphics, but java 
friendly browser.

There is a section  labeled "for people with disabilities,"
 under this section, there is a directory of the sccp  staff by 
department.  these people are specifically designated to facilitate 
application problems in their respective agencies.  Christine,  I do not 
recall the position you are seeking, but perhaps this is a direct door?

Hope this helps,
Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Jason White wrote:


Christine Grassman  wrote:

Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.


Interesting...

Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
relevant US government department.

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Christine,
call them.
There is a reason in   the Liaison case.  i did not understand she was 
blind, but deaf or a combination,   the office of public engagement helps 
facilitate communications for Ms. Gordon.   there are some things not best 
for email you 
know?


I would say the same for your representatives...especially the one with 
the problem form.  Given anyone can send an email from anywhere, sometimes 
putting human presence to problems makes a difference.
As an interesting question, were you able to test things in a low graphics 
environment?

Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Christine Grassman wrote:


Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators and 
Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a privacy 
release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
Meanwhile, when I tried to locate a contact form for Claudia Gordon, who is 
ostensibly the liaison between the President’s administration and the 
disability community, the only thing I could find was an offer to contact the 
White House, since she is the disability liaison for the White House’s Office 
of Public Engagement. How likely do you think it is that my message will get 
through that barrage of correspondence?
Cherie, could you please clarify what you mean by “legacy solutions”? My 
husband works in a federal building and sees a reasonable number of disabled 
employees working for the various agencies.
Christine




On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:

Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
mainstream.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
Kare



On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:

I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job that 
closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find a 
reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you want 
are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this point. We 
need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved for the 
future.

I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to insure federal 
government web sites work with assistive technologies and in some cases they just do not. 
Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either late 2011 or early 2012, it has 
been far less accessible with whatever screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay 
motivated enough to document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. 
It would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But 
that's a utopia we may never enjoy.




On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Dear All:
I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit “reload page”.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
“Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk

Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Jason White]

Christine Grassman  wrote:
> Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
> and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
> privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.  

Interesting...

Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
relevant US government department.

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Christine Grassman]

Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators and 
Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a privacy 
release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
Meanwhile, when I tried to locate a contact form for Claudia Gordon, who is 
ostensibly the liaison between the President’s administration and the 
disability community, the only thing I could find was an offer to contact the 
White House, since she is the disability liaison for the White House’s Office 
of Public Engagement. How likely do you think it is that my message will get 
through that barrage of correspondence?
Cherie, could you please clarify what you mean by “legacy solutions”? My 
husband works in a federal building and sees a reasonable number of disabled 
employees working for the various agencies.
Christine



> On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
> accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
> mainstream.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
>> people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
>> solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
>>> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
>>> agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job 
>>> that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to 
>>> find a reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing 
>>> you want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this 
>>> point. We need to probably try to work together to get these issues 
>>> resolved for the future.
>>> 
>>> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
>>> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in 
>>> some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either 
>>> late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever 
>>> screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to 
>>> document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It 
>>> would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just 
>>> work. But that's a utopia we may never enjoy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All:
>>> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I 
>>> have tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an 
>>> on-line job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
>>> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly 
>>> and either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this 
>>> happened, or I had to hit “reload page”.
>>> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
>>> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked 
>>> with a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have 
>>> gotten through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents 
>>> saved to my account, even though I definitely do and they were actually 
>>> being listed, and the correct one was selected.
>>> 
>>> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, 
>>> but had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents 
>>> uploaded to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the 
>>> correct one selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the 
>>> process.
>>> 
>>> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill 
>>> out the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and 
>>> received a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my 
>>> status, it said “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist 
>>> checked last evening and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be 
>>> found.
>>> 
>>> So:
>>> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am 
>>> especially interested in hearing from anyone who used
>>> usajobs.gov  specifically.
>>> 
>>> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in 
>>> particular I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or 
>>> suggest to the Help desk?
>>> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
>>> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
>>> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said 
>>> Safari was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
>>> Just a note: I did re

Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Cheree Heppe]

Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
mainstream.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
> people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
> solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
>> 
>> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
>> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
>> agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job 
>> that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find 
>> a reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you 
>> want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this 
>> point. We need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved 
>> for the future.
>> 
>> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
>> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in 
>> some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either 
>> late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever 
>> screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to document 
>> and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It would be nice 
>> if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But that's a 
>> utopia we may never enjoy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All:
>> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
>> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line 
>> job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
>> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
>> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or 
>> I had to hit “reload page”.
>> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
>> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
>> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
>> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
>> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, 
>> and the correct one was selected.
>> 
>> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
>> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
>> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
>> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
>> 
>> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill 
>> out the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and 
>> received a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my 
>> status, it said “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked 
>> last evening and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
>> 
>> So:
>> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am 
>> especially interested in hearing from anyone who used
>> usajobs.gov  specifically.
>> 
>> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
>> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
>> Help desk?
>> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
>> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
>> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said 
>> Safari was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
>> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
>> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
>> different browser.
>> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
>> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
>> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
>> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
>> 
>> Thanks so much in advance.
>> Christine
>> 
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Christine Grassman]

Thank you, Eileen, for your input, and thank you Kare, for your suggestion, 
which is an excellent one, as I believe that individual is actually blind.
Eileen, did you report your difficulties, and did anyone else you know? I was 
contemplating bringing this to my Senators and Representative, but perhaps the 
liaison is the way to go . . . 
Christine

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
> people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
> solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
> 
>> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
>> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
>> agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job 
>> that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find 
>> a reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you 
>> want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this 
>> point. We need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved 
>> for the future.
>> 
>> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
>> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in 
>> some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either 
>> late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever 
>> screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to document 
>> and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It would be nice 
>> if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But that's a 
>> utopia we may never enjoy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All:
>> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
>> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line 
>> job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
>> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
>> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or 
>> I had to hit “reload page”.
>> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
>> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
>> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
>> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
>> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, 
>> and the correct one was selected.
>> 
>> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
>> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
>> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
>> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
>> 
>> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill 
>> out the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and 
>> received a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my 
>> status, it said “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked 
>> last evening and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
>> 
>> So:
>> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am 
>> especially interested in hearing from anyone who used
>> usajobs.gov  specifically.
>> 
>> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
>> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
>> Help desk?
>> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
>> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
>> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said 
>> Safari was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
>> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
>> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
>> different browser.
>> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
>> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
>> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
>> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
>> 
>> Thanks so much in advance.
>> Christine
>> 
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison 
for people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue 
to a solution is a human who resonates with the problem.

Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:


I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job that 
closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find a 
reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you want 
are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this point. We 
need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved for the 
future.

I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to insure federal 
government web sites work with assistive technologies and in some cases they just do not. 
Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either late 2011 or early 2012, it has 
been far less accessible with whatever screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay 
motivated enough to document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. 
It would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But 
that's a utopia we may never enjoy.




On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Dear All:
I am at my wit???s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit ???reload page???.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to ???Finish??? and received 
a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
???Received???.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening 
and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk?
C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
.  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a compatible 
browser, Monster.com ???s help desk said Safari was not 
compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
different browser.
I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for each 
and every federal job application, things are going to become very tedious very 
fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not be able to do 
this with commonly used technology.

Thanks so much in advance.
Christine

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[gs]

I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job that 
closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find a 
reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you want 
are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this point. We 
need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved for the 
future.

I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to insure 
federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in some cases 
they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either late 2011 or 
early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever screen reader you 
choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to document and report each 
issue if that's what we're expected to do. It would be nice if enough 
forethought was applied that things would just work. But that's a utopia we may 
never enjoy.




On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Dear All:
I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit “reload page”.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
“Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used 
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk?
C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
.  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said Safari 
was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10. 
Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
different browser.
I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for each 
and every federal job application, things are going to become very tedious very 
fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not be able to do 
this with commonly used technology.

Thanks so much in advance. 
Christine

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[gs]

Best bet is to just use Windows and a Windows screen reader to complete your 
resume and application process on USAJOBS.
On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Eileen  wrote:

Hi Christine,

About 3 years ago, I tried to apply for a position in the VA system. I had a 
difficuls time uploading and filling out the online application. I had my 
husband look at it and help me, but even he had problems with it and he's fully 
sighted. I decided to forget it, as the Federal government made the process so 
impossible to apply. I do know of one individual who is a high partial who 
managed to complete the application process, but had indicated to me that it 
was extremely hard to get it completed and she is in the assistive technology 
field. I know that the Federal government should be taken to task on this. I 
know I haven't been much assistance, only to know that there are others in the 
same boat as you. The positions I have attempted to apply for will only accept 
online applications. It's a pity because there are many of us who would make 
excellent employees and are qualified for the jobs they post.

Good luck and if I hear more tips on how to apply for a Federal position, I'll 
pass them on to you.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christine Grassman mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Dear All:
> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
> on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
> had to hit “reload page”.
> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
> the correct one was selected.
> 
> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
> 
> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
> the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
> message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
> “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
> this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
> 
> So:
> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
> interested in hearing from anyone who used 
> usajobs.gov  specifically.
> 
> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
> Help desk?
> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said Safari 
> was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10. 
> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
> different browser.
> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
> 
> Thanks so much in advance. 
> Christine
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Eileen]

Hi Christine,

About 3 years ago, I tried to apply for a position in the VA system. I had a 
difficuls time uploading and filling out the online application. I had my 
husband look at it and help me, but even he had problems with it and he's fully 
sighted. I decided to forget it, as the Federal government made the process so 
impossible to apply. I do know of one individual who is a high partial who 
managed to complete the application process, but had indicated to me that it 
was extremely hard to get it completed and she is in the assistive technology 
field. I know that the Federal government should be taken to task on this. I 
know I haven't been much assistance, only to know that there are others in the 
same boat as you. The positions I have attempted to apply for will only accept 
online applications. It's a pity because there are many of us who would make 
excellent employees and are qualified for the jobs they post.

Good luck and if I hear more tips on how to apply for a Federal position, I'll 
pass them on to you.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear All:
> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
> on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
> had to hit “reload page”.
> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
> the correct one was selected.
> 
> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
> 
> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
> the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
> message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
> “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
> this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
> 
> So:
> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
> interested in hearing from anyone who used 
> usajobs.gov specifically.
> 
> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
> Help desk?
> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com.  
> Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a compatible browser, 
> Monster.com’s help desk said Safari was not compatible, which is why I used 
> Internet Explorer 10. 
> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
> different browser.
> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
> 
> Thanks so much in advance. 
> Christine
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Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Christine Grassman]

Dear All:
I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit “reload page”.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
“Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used 
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk?
C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
.  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
compatible browser, Monster.com’s help desk said Safari was not compatible, 
which is why I used Internet Explorer 10. 
Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
different browser.
I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for each 
and every federal job application, things are going to become very tedious very 
fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not be able to do 
this with commonly used technology.

Thanks so much in advance. 
Christine

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Re: urgent help needed with partitions

[Rob]

Hi,
Thank you for your help.
after many tries, I got it to work.
at first it gave ne an error could not delete partition because the 
drive couldn't ve unmounted.

Vut everything is OK now.
Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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On 2/1/2014 10:23 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Using Disk Utility, you should be able to do the following without losing data:

1.  Make sure that you have backed up important data on your drive.
2.  Make sure that your second partition is empty.
3.  In Disk Utility, in the list of disks, select the second partition, the one 
you wish to delete.
4.  Select the Partition tab.
5.  Press the Remove Partition button.

You should be presented with a dialog letting you know what's going to happen 
and to confirm.  Confirm if all is OK and wait for the process to complete.  
Next you will likely want to increase the size of your first partition back to 
it's original size.  You should be able to do this as well in Disk Utility by 
noting how much space is available on your disk, how big the current partition 
is and entering that number in the partition size for the startup partition, 
then press Apply.  Note, you do NOT want to use the pop-up menu to change the 
number of partitions as it will erase all current data.  Also note that 
resizing is possible live on the startup disk whereas changing the number of 
partitions is not.  I haven't exhaustively tested this but, it should work.  Be 
patient as some processes take time especially when dealing with the live 
startup volume.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 31, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Rob  wrote:


Well, I have got myself in a jam.
I created a partition on my MacBook called Mac...HD2.
and now I cant remove the partition and go back to just 1 partition.
Please tell me there is a way to remove the 2nd partition.
Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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Re: urgent help needed with partitions

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Using Disk Utility, you should be able to do the following without losing data:

1.  Make sure that you have backed up important data on your drive.
2.  Make sure that your second partition is empty.
3.  In Disk Utility, in the list of disks, select the second partition, the one 
you wish to delete.
4.  Select the Partition tab.
5.  Press the Remove Partition button.

You should be presented with a dialog letting you know what's going to happen 
and to confirm.  Confirm if all is OK and wait for the process to complete.  
Next you will likely want to increase the size of your first partition back to 
it's original size.  You should be able to do this as well in Disk Utility by 
noting how much space is available on your disk, how big the current partition 
is and entering that number in the partition size for the startup partition, 
then press Apply.  Note, you do NOT want to use the pop-up menu to change the 
number of partitions as it will erase all current data.  Also note that 
resizing is possible live on the startup disk whereas changing the number of 
partitions is not.  I haven't exhaustively tested this but, it should work.  Be 
patient as some processes take time especially when dealing with the live 
startup volume.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 31, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Rob  wrote:

> Well, I have got myself in a jam.
> I created a partition on my MacBook called Mac...HD2.
> and now I cant remove the partition and go back to just 1 partition.
> Please tell me there is a way to remove the 2nd partition.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
> 206-426-3505
> "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"
> 
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urgent help needed with partitions

[Rob]

Well, I have got myself in a jam.
I created a partition on my MacBook called Mac...HD2.
and now I cant remove the partition and go back to just 1 partition.
Please tell me there is a way to remove the 2nd partition.
Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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Re: urgent help needed

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Donna,

Assuming you have a MBP or laptop, the eject key is the top right one on the 
keyboard and a press and hold for about 3 seconds will eject the disk.

To successfully install SL again, firstly power the machine down, now start it 
back up again, the second you hear the Apple noise, sorry there's no way to 
describe that :), press and hold the letter C on the keyboard, do not let it go 
until your CD drive begins to work and by that I mean you can hear it accessing 
the disk. keep your finger on the C key for about another 5 plus seconds and 
release.

you should continue to hear your disk drive spinning and reading for a good 
minute or so. once it all goes quiet press command F5 and again you should hear 
the disk spin up, after another 15 seconds or so, Voice Over should kick in and 
you should be able to install OSx again yourself.

at the point the operating system restarts, i.e. you get to that funky bit of 
music, which visually shows a few screen shots etc of a Mac in use.

hold the power key for about 10 seconds until your Mac powers down.

when you now give the machine to the person you've sold it to, they will power 
it up to that music again and it will be as if it were brand new.

oh, before powering it down, remove the CD the way I outlined at the start, 
pressing and holding eject for about 3 seconds which is the top right key.


Regards,

Neil Barnfather

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On 16 Sep 2011, at 11:41, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

Please excuse the cross-post.
I just erased my disk yesterday in order to sell my Macbook Pro.  I thought I'd 
have a chance to reinstall the OS, but it took me back to the app store, 
apparently wanting me to create a new Apple ID,  I inserted my old Snow Leopard 
disk, just hoping to get an OS on the thing, and now, I don't seem to be able 
to eject the disk.

1.  Is there some way I can make the Mac boot from the SL DVD, so that this guy 
can at least get a computer with an installed OS?
2.  Lacking that option, how do I get the SL disk out of the machine.

3.  What should I have done differently, so that I erased my data but still had 
an OS?
Thanks,
Donna

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urgent help needed

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Please excuse the cross-post.
I just erased my disk yesterday in order to sell my Macbook Pro.  I thought I'd 
have a chance to reinstall the OS, but it took me back to the app store, 
apparently wanting me to create a new Apple ID,  I inserted my old Snow Leopard 
disk, just hoping to get an OS on the thing, and now, I don't seem to be able 
to eject the disk.

1.  Is there some way I can make the Mac boot from the SL DVD, so that this guy 
can at least get a computer with an installed OS?
2.  Lacking that option, how do I get the SL disk out of the machine.

3.  What should I have done differently, so that I erased my data but still had 
an OS?
Thanks,
Donna

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