Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

[LarryT]

Thanks Tom!!
  I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

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Re: [MBZ] Vista hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[BillR]

Thanks Tom, very helpful for me also.
BillR

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 5:38 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista
hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

Larry,

Connect to the internet and go to www.myipaddress.com. The site will
return your ip address - write it down.

Now select Run from the Start menu, type cmd in the box & select OK.

This will bring up a command line box - us "older" windows users call it
a DOS window.

Type ipconfig then hit the enter key.

This will return your local IP address.

Compare the address to your web address, if very different then your
router is doing a IP translation and by default, is also working as a
hardware firewall. The router is working like a hardware firewall
because only invited traffic can come in. No-one else can resolve to the
internal IP address.

If they are the same then you do not have a router - you have only a
cable or DSL modem & your proverbial #ss is hanging out there on the
net, waiting for the next bad guy to try & take a bite out of it.


You definitely need anti-virus software.

Oddly enough, most clients I work with sets their virus software to
maximum protection. This means that all emails are scanned in & out, all
web files are scanned, all files are scanned as they are opened & they
do a daily 100% file scan.

Turning everything on causes the system to perform slow. This is yet
another "user issue", or more correctly a "after market software" issue
that gets blamed on Windows. The blame lies squately on Symantic - they
would not sell as much software if everyone knew they did not need 50%
of the junk, excuse me, software they sell.

Viruses don't pop in out of thin air & they aren't caught from nearby
computers or from your finger tips. They are delivered by an email or a
web page visit. This means that once you know your system is clean, you
can back off to filtering only at the sources.

Once you know that all of the files in your system are safe, you can
turn off your real time file scan & only scan incoming files. You can
also turn off outbound scans - why scan outbound files that you know are
clean? Just don't forget to leave incoming web & email scanning turned
on. You need to leave your scheduled system scan turned on & set the
start time for something like 4:00 AM every Sunday morning - just as
sanity check.

My development systems are set up this way and my system scans have not
found a virus yet (6 years running). I've caught & disposed of plenty of
incoming virus email attachments.

Tom
www.kegkits.com
 
Original Message
From: LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits
therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tom wrote:<>

Hi Tom,
I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router
feeding 
my desktop and laptop.  The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - 
aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part -

What more should have been done to be a "a properly configured router" ?

Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus?  Can a virus
get 
thru?   Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a
bit 
IMO.

I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the
broadband 
gets thru why not a hacker?

Thanks -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes 
Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the 
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement


> Bill,
>
> I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves
the
> issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.
>
> One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
> software vendors.
>
> Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
> anti-virus & firewall programs.
>
> Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.
>
> By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
> firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
> hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
> guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall
is
> away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
> already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
> keep them from going further.
>
> But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
> they would sell les

Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Tom Hargrave]

Larry,

I should have noted that you are feeding your desk top & lap top
computers. This means that your router is set up correctly. It would not
be providing an IP address for each machine if it were not.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
 
Original Message
From: LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits
therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tom wrote:<>

Hi Tom,
I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router
feeding 
my desktop and laptop.  The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - 
aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part -

What more should have been done to be a "a properly configured router" ?

Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus?  Can a virus
get 
thru?   Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a
bit 
IMO.

I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the
broadband 
gets thru why not a hacker?

Thanks -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes 
Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the 
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement


> Bill,
>
> I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves
the
> issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.
>
> One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
> software vendors.
>
> Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
> anti-virus & firewall programs.
>
> Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.
>
> By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
> firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
> hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
> guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall
is
> away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
> already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
> keep them from going further.
>
> But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
> they would sell less worthless software.
>
> Anti-virus software is a different story.
>
> By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
> install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
> but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking
the
> 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were
on
> top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities.
>
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
> -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything
> worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing "XP Repair Pro
> 2007".
> I have little doubt that program is the problem.  The continuing
problem
> is
> that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out
> how
> to get Outlook to download and send email.  I check for spyware
> regularly,
> though I don't expect that is the problem.
> It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show
> stopper.
> BillR
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'BillR'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'"
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -
> hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
>
>
>> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work
> on
>> a lot of Windows boxes.
>>
>> And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one
> of
>> three causes.
>>
>> 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory.
>>
>> 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application.
> For
>> example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on.
>>
>> 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded
from
> a
>> porn or gambling site.
>>
>> Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the
>> systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP.
>>
>> 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial
> Vista
>> installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet.
>>
>> Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is
> even
>> better than 2000.
>>
>> Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware
> or
>

Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEMS

[LarryT]

Hi Steve,
   Your system sounds *great*!

   I ended up buying a small "audio only" MP3 player on sale yeaterday for 
$30 for 1GB of memory.  I put 5 CDs worth of AudioBooks  into it.  The 
screen is pretty small but once the ook is started it will run until 
finished.  Was just thinking (very dangerous) and had a thought.  I have 2 
or 4 old laptop computers which I upgraded from.  I still have a 50GB hard 
drive for one which would play anything from MP3s to movies on DVD.   With 
the cassette on a wire I could load several books and tons of music into 
it - and keep it under a front seat or on the passenger seat if it was just 
one of us using the car.  That would keep me from buying a MP3 player with 
more memory ---


I keep thinking about Tim (the toolman) Taylor who always wanted more and 
bigger tools - and that seems to be the way I end up going - ;-)


Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen D Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEMS



HI Larry; my car is a 300D 1983; the new audio, video system is like a
toy or gimmick, 3.5inch screen?? HA! HA! , but still a nice unit; still
haven't figured out how to set everything on it???; you are correct ,
lots of reading in the manual I don't have any Amplifiers added, as
it is loud enough;
i also have used the cassette adapter in other car to feed satellite
radio, as i will have to get out instructions to program a Freq. to use
it?!??!??!
Steve

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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Tom Hargrave]

Larry,

Connect to the internet and go to www.myipaddress.com. The site will
return your ip address - write it down.

Now select Run from the Start menu, type cmd in the box & select OK.

This will bring up a command line box - us "older" windows users call it
a DOS window.

Type ipconfig then hit the enter key.

This will return your local IP address.

Compare the address to your web address, if very different then your
router is doing a IP translation and by default, is also working as a
hardware firewall. The router is working like a hardware firewall
because only invited traffic can come in. No-one else can resolve to the
internal IP address.

If they are the same then you do not have a router - you have only a
cable or DSL modem & your proverbial #ss is hanging out there on the
net, waiting for the next bad guy to try & take a bite out of it.


You definitely need anti-virus software.

Oddly enough, most clients I work with sets their virus software to
maximum protection. This means that all emails are scanned in & out, all
web files are scanned, all files are scanned as they are opened & they
do a daily 100% file scan.

Turning everything on causes the system to perform slow. This is yet
another "user issue", or more correctly a "after market software" issue
that gets blamed on Windows. The blame lies squately on Symantic - they
would not sell as much software if everyone knew they did not need 50%
of the junk, excuse me, software they sell.

Viruses don't pop in out of thin air & they aren't caught from nearby
computers or from your finger tips. They are delivered by an email or a
web page visit. This means that once you know your system is clean, you
can back off to filtering only at the sources.

Once you know that all of the files in your system are safe, you can
turn off your real time file scan & only scan incoming files. You can
also turn off outbound scans - why scan outbound files that you know are
clean? Just don't forget to leave incoming web & email scanning turned
on. You need to leave your scheduled system scan turned on & set the
start time for something like 4:00 AM every Sunday morning - just as
sanity check.

My development systems are set up this way and my system scans have not
found a virus yet (6 years running). I've caught & disposed of plenty of
incoming virus email attachments.

Tom
www.kegkits.com
 
Original Message
From: LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits
therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tom wrote:<>

Hi Tom,
I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router
feeding 
my desktop and laptop.  The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - 
aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part -

What more should have been done to be a "a properly configured router" ?

Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus?  Can a virus
get 
thru?   Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a
bit 
IMO.

I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the
broadband 
gets thru why not a hacker?

Thanks -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes 
Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the 
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement


> Bill,
>
> I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves
the
> issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.
>
> One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
> software vendors.
>
> Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
> anti-virus & firewall programs.
>
> Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.
>
> By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
> firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
> hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
> guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall
is
> away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
> already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
> keep them from going further.
>
> But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
> they would sell less worthless software.
>
> Anti-virus software is a different story.
>
> By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
> install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
> but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking
the
> 80% install base. If the roles were 

Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[LarryT]

Tom wrote:>


Hi Tom,
I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router feeding 
my desktop and laptop.  The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - 
aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part -


What more should have been done to be a "a properly configured router" ?

Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus?  Can a virus get 
thru?   Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a bit 
IMO.


I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the broadband 
gets thru why not a hacker?


Thanks -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes 
Discussion List'" 

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the 
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement




Bill,

I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the
issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.

One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
software vendors.

Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
anti-virus & firewall programs.

Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.

By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is
away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
keep them from going further.

But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
they would sell less worthless software.

Anti-virus software is a different story.

By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the
80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on
top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

Original Message
From: BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything
worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing "XP Repair Pro
2007".
I have little doubt that program is the problem.  The continuing problem
is
that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out
how
to get Outlook to download and send email.  I check for spyware
regularly,
though I don't expect that is the problem.
It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show
stopper.
BillR

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'BillR'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'"

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -
hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement



Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work

on

a lot of Windows boxes.

And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one

of

three causes.

1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory.

2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application.

For

example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on.

3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from

a

porn or gambling site.

Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the
systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP.

2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial

Vista

installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet.

Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is

even

better than 2000.

Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware

or

are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these

are

Microsoft's fault.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked
toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling.  The only real issue I
have
at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair

Pro


2007] has caused Outlook to crash every time there is mail to download
or
send.  The test settings works great and that test settings email is
fine to
both send and receive, the

Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator

[Jim Cathey]

1983 Mercedes 240D 289,000 - What would cause the actuator to click 
constantly after I start the car and also with also with just the key 
turned on?


Bad solder joints in the amplifier.  Classic.  Further info:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwcruise.html
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html


-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator

[Michael Esh]

Did you ever know anybody that could stutter so much when they type?
jeeez

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Esh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator



Hi
1983 Mercedes 240D 289,000 - What would cause the actuator to click 
constantly after I start the car and also with also with just the key 
turned on?  It eventually stopped after I unplugged it for several it for 
several minutes. I have also noticed the actuator motor running very 
quietly with the key turned on.

Any ideas,
Mike
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[MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator

[Michael Esh]

Hi 
1983 Mercedes 240D 289,000 - What would cause the actuator to click constantly 
after I start the car and also with also with just the key turned on?  It 
eventually stopped after I unplugged it for several it for several minutes. I 
have also noticed the actuator motor running very quietly with the key turned 
on.  
Any ideas, 
Mike

Re: [MBZ] Rebuild (was OM 617 badly sick)

[Loren Faeth]

Hans,  Did you pull the sump pan to verify there is a bad rod?

The prechamber ball is a good suggestion also, but in my experience, in 
that case there is variation in the knocking as the ball bounces around and 
it sounds more from the head than from the crank area.


At 12:35 AM 3/17/2007, you wrote:

Thanks for all the input, fellows.
Once I have the motor on the ground, I will investigate and report.
Thanks again,
On 3/15/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would plan on pistons and sleeves -- there is absolutely no chance
> that they are good.  Crank probably only needs polishing, but if you
> have had oil starvation, have it magnifluxed for cracks, they CAN break
> (not fun).
>
> If the bearing has spun, the block is toast.
>
> Peter
>
>
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'82 300SD, '95 E300D

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Re: [MBZ] 190 2.6 gasser/was 1996 E300

[Tony Wirtel]

Hello Friends, I have a friend with more money than I do who is looking
at the /1996-1998 E class diesels/.  Am I wrong to be telling him that
MB diesels are wonderful and he is going to love them?  I warned him
that the '96 non turbo would be slow, but as far as reliability and what
we have all come to expect from our 123's and 124's, do these compare?
Are they a quality item?

I personally have been toying with the idea of getting a 190 2.6 gasser
for a third car here, along with my question about the later Diesels
above, anybody have a 190?  Opinions?

Thanks

John Peterson
1991 300D 2.5 84k
Kingston, RI



John,

The 190 wasn't intended for the 103 motor; took a big shoehorn to make
it fit and there is a decent amount of maintenance stuff becomes a
PITA as a result.  Have you considered a 124 with a gas motor?  I know
around here 124 values are dropping and the 201s are falling faster.
As the "cheap" mercedes many (or most?) of 'em have had the snot beat
out of them by now, but there have to be a few nice ones left.

I've had a 300e with 2.6 motor for a little more than a year; has been
a decent car but would imagine a 104 engined one even better.

On 210 cars- look out for rust!  If a '98 is an option, its a MUCH
nicer car to drive than the non-turbos IMNSHO.

Tony Wirtel
'92  300e/2.6

Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300

[Mitch Haley]

John Peterson wrote:
>  I warned him
> that the '96 non turbo would be slow,

I believe the 24v NA engine is between the 90-93 2.5 and '87 3.0
as far as acceleration goes. And not a hint of turbo lag.
The 24v intercooled turbo ('98-99) is quite quick for a pre CDI diesel. 

 
> I personally have been toying with the idea of getting a 190 2.6 gasser
> for a third car here, along with my question about the later Diesels
> above, anybody have a 190?  Opinions?

The only 190 I've driven is my 16v. Although the 16v is entertaining,
it should be observed that MBUSA rated the 2.6 at 162hp and the 16v 
at 167hp. Both require premium. The 2.6 is a heavy engine in a W201,
but on the other hand, the 16v has the heaviest chassis in the W201
lineup so that should even out. My stick shift 16v weighs almost
exactly (within 20lb) as much as my automatic '87 2.5 turbodiesel, 
due to the bigger wheels, fancy seats, spoilers and fender flares,
and SLS. It's going to be a hefty little car if I ever get around
to intercooling my 2.5 turbo and sticking it in the 16v car.

[MBZ] 1996 E300

[John Peterson]

Hello Friends, I have a friend with more money than I do who is looking 
at the /1996-1998 E class diesels/.  Am I wrong to be telling him that 
MB diesels are wonderful and he is going to love them?  I warned him 
that the '96 non turbo would be slow, but as far as reliability and what 
we have all come to expect from our 123's and 124's, do these compare?  
Are they a quality item?


I personally have been toying with the idea of getting a 190 2.6 gasser 
for a third car here, along with my question about the later Diesels 
above, anybody have a 190?  Opinions?


Thanks

John Peterson
1991 300D 2.5 84k
Kingston, RI

Re: [MBZ] Vista hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[BillR]

The virus incident and the problems with MS Outlook were separated by about
2 months.  Outlook ran fine until I installed the XP Repair Pro and then the
send/receive problem occurred as soon as I ran that program.  It is possible
that the virus [dealt with by doing a restore to original factory
configuration] may have done something that held over after it was cleaned
and system rolled back to factory, but everything did work fine until the
install of the new program.  I am quite happy that MS Outlook is working
once more.  Turns out I have OK Don and Dial-a-Fix to thank for that.  Why
don't both Dons come down and I'll treat you to a meal at Singleton's. Tom
and the rest of you who offered advice can come too  
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD 286k miles

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:29 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista
hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

Bill,

I don't remember you mentioning a virus earlier. Viruses can cause all kinds
of damage and depending on how it was removed, you may still have some code
in place.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of BillR
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits
therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

Already tried that, with no luck.  Did an uninstall and then a full 
reinstall of Outlook - nothing changed.  I use a wireless router, but the 
one time I really got hit was over that.  I was experimenting with my hand 
held while it was connected to my computer and the virus got in that way. I 
now have Semantic 10 antivirus [supplied by my wife's employer], but she 
didn't know we needed it when the virus struck.
BillR



- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes 
Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the 
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement


> Bill,
>
> I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the
> issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.
>
> One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
> software vendors.
>
> Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
> anti-virus & firewall programs.
>
> Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.
>
> By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
> firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
> hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
> guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is
> away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
> already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
> keep them from going further.
>
> But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
> they would sell less worthless software.
>
> Anti-virus software is a different story.
>
> By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
> install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
> but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the
> 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on
> top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities.
>
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
> -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything
> worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing "XP Repair Pro
> 2007".
> I have little doubt that program is the problem.  The continuing problem
> is
> that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out
> how
> to get Outlook to download and send email.  I check for spyware
> regularly,
> though I don't expect that is the problem.
> It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show
> stopper.
> BillR
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'BillR'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'"
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -
> hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
>
>
>> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work
> on
>> a lot of Windows boxes.
>>
>> And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one
> of
>> three causes.
>>
>> 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory.
>>
>> 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application.
> For
>> example, af

Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Tom Hargrave]

Bill,

I don't remember you mentioning a virus earlier. Viruses can cause all kinds
of damage and depending on how it was removed, you may still have some code
in place.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of BillR
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits
therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

Already tried that, with no luck.  Did an uninstall and then a full 
reinstall of Outlook - nothing changed.  I use a wireless router, but the 
one time I really got hit was over that.  I was experimenting with my hand 
held while it was connected to my computer and the virus got in that way. I 
now have Semantic 10 antivirus [supplied by my wife's employer], but she 
didn't know we needed it when the virus struck.
BillR



- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes 
Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the 
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement


> Bill,
>
> I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the
> issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.
>
> One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
> software vendors.
>
> Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
> anti-virus & firewall programs.
>
> Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.
>
> By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
> firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
> hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
> guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is
> away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
> already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
> keep them from going further.
>
> But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
> they would sell less worthless software.
>
> Anti-virus software is a different story.
>
> By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
> install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
> but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the
> 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on
> top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities.
>
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
> -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything
> worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing "XP Repair Pro
> 2007".
> I have little doubt that program is the problem.  The continuing problem
> is
> that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out
> how
> to get Outlook to download and send email.  I check for spyware
> regularly,
> though I don't expect that is the problem.
> It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show
> stopper.
> BillR
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'BillR'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'"
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -
> hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
>
>
>> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work
> on
>> a lot of Windows boxes.
>>
>> And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one
> of
>> three causes.
>>
>> 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory.
>>
>> 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application.
> For
>> example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on.
>>
>> 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from
> a
>> porn or gambling site.
>>
>> Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the
>> systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP.
>>
>> 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial
> Vista
>> installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet.
>>
>> Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is
> even
>> better than 2000.
>>
>> Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware
> or
>> are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these
> are
>> Microsoft's fault.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked
>> toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
>>
>> Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling.  The only real issue I
>> have
>> at the moment 

Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Tom Hargrave]

I have friends who are Oracle developers, friends who are Lynux / MySQL /
PHP developers & friends who are Windows developers (myself included). And
everyone believes his is the best & the others are the scum of the earth.

This battle of OS's will never be won by any of us. The market will tell us
who's systems will win in the long run & the market shows Microsoft the long
term winner for the past 20 years or so.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

> By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
> install base. Apple is just as vulnerable

Sorry, I do not believe this.  Microsoft had a good time throwing
in all kinds of features without ever giving a thought to what that
might mean to the security of a box, and the general public has been
paying for that for years.  I only hope that Apple has not compromised
the relatively better security of its Unix base.  Of course, they could
have.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Rebuild (was OM 617 badly sick)

[Hans Neureiter]

Thanks for all the input, fellows.
Once I have the motor on the ground, I will investigate and report.
Thanks again,
On 3/15/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would plan on pistons and sleeves -- there is absolutely no chance
that they are good.  Crank probably only needs polishing, but if you
have had oil starvation, have it magnifluxed for cracks, they CAN break
(not fun).

If the bearing has spun, the block is toast.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix

[OK Don]

Different Don - but I'l take Singleton's 
I'm OK Don, the other one is Lt. Don---

On 3/16/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Don - This worked great.  Outlook seems to be back in business.  Thanks.
Now I owe you for Singleton's and this.
BillR

You might try   http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix
This little utility cured a sound card driver that kept disappearing
in my XP laptop. It sounds like it might work in your case also.



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sit there."
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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[John M McIntosh]

On Mar 16, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:


By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking  
the
80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple  
were on

top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities.


Oddly enough windows music copy protection is attacked just as much  
as itunes copy protection
even tho  95% of the bought music on the internet is itunes based. So  
does that mean itunes copy protection is really good, or windows  
music copy protection really bad? So why don't we see 100X more  
successful attacks on itunes music protection then? Surely the same  
argument above would hold?


Then again perhaps these statements are from the same folks who think  
a ford is just like a mercedes. Funny thing is my work  mate got  
hosed for the day as his Ford SHO coolant hose was scored open by a  
pulley. A *clip* broke that hold the hose away from the pulley. Funny  
hoses in my mercedes for the most part doesn't need clips to hold  
hoses away from rotating things, and funny I haven't had a clip just  
break. Then he asks the Ford dealer for a hose (it's an 97) and told  
nope go away we don't make those hoses anymore, I'm sure my benz  
dealer will for a price sell me a hose for the 83, and finally to add  
insult the auto-zone guys sell him 3 gallons of DexCool (better known  
as DeathCool, I understand).  He is on my advice look for someone to  
swap it out with Zerex G-05, but in his reading it implies he must  
flush the block 8 times to remove all the deathcool, of couse most  
$39.95 flush folks won't do that much work.



John
1983 300TDt  371k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  188k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)

Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers

[Hendrik Riessen]

So how come every 20 minutes I have to download some patch or fix or 
whatever for XtraPoo?
Guess Gates and Co missed the bus and misjudged what the people want from a 
OS, less bling and more reliability is what is needed.

One day I'll change over to...

- Original Message - 
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers


   I think the hype outpaced reality.  I bought XP after it was out for a
year or more so the bugs were resolved. 

Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes-McLaren F1 Team

[Hendrik Riessen]

That's some good reasoning there Jeff, perhaps to put it all in perspective 
you could get a map of England and a map of the USA in the same sacale and 
then compare the two in regards to physical size. Let us know what you find 
out.


- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Zedic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:33 PM
Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes-McLaren F1 Team


. Maybe

it's because the scale is smaller here but it all seems close to me.


Jeff Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] texas cars for kids

[LT Don]

I have no idea what you are talking about. You haven't been using cleaning
solvents without proper ventilation, have you?

On 3/16/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


so I went ahead and decided to try bidding on a couple of cars online.
So how does this work, people bid sort of like ebay before the real
auction then people at the real auction can outbid those that already
bid online or do none of the bids start going in till the real auction?
  Reason I ask is that it says I am current high bidder.  That seems
like there is online bidding going on right now.
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[MBZ] http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix

[BillR]

Don - This worked great.  Outlook seems to be back in business.  Thanks.
Now I owe you for Singleton's and this.
BillR

You might try   http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix
This little utility cured a sound card driver that kept disappearing
in my XP laptop. It sounds like it might work in your case also.

[MBZ] I Saw one yesterday!!!

[s223x556]

Hi; I saw a new 07 UPS truck; made by Freightliner with a 4 cylinder
turbo. Mercedes Benz diesel in it; looks lika a larger 4 cyl. than my
240D, Ha!Ha!; man said runs good & gets good mileage, though he didn't
say how much mpg
Steve

Re: [MBZ] OSX

[Gary Hurst]

i'm just a rookie though

On 3/16/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Only five?  Piker

Three on my desk, an eMac in the older kids room, iMac SE for the
little one, wallstreet, Tibook, 6400, 5260, 7200, 9600, PB 5300, Duo
2300, SE, imac running SETI, G3 on Einstein  A bunch of retired
things.

Had to get rid of the IIg, IIfx, si, cx, ci, LC, LC II, LC III, color
classic, plus, Pippin, all but the 2100 newton (100 120 130)  Classic
II, 610, 630, 640, 900, 950, 7100, 8100. 9500, 700, 8500, MacTV.  She
wanted the garage space back.


On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> i have 5 macs though
>
> yes, i'm a sick man  :(
>
>
> On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Gary,
>>
>> Took all of about 5 minutes.
>>
>> Chuck
>> On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>>
>>> fine,make me waste my sleep time downloading this
>>>
>>> On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Me too, today .. 10.4.9!

 Chuck
 Phoenix AZ
 On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 10.4.9.
>
> Tuesday.
>
> RLE
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Jim Cathey]

By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
install base. Apple is just as vulnerable


Sorry, I do not believe this.  Microsoft had a good time throwing
in all kinds of features without ever giving a thought to what that
might mean to the security of a box, and the general public has been
paying for that for years.  I only hope that Apple has not compromised
the relatively better security of its Unix base.  Of course, they could
have.

-- Jim

[MBZ] texas cars for kids

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

so I went ahead and decided to try bidding on a couple of cars online. 
So how does this work, people bid sort of like ebay before the real 
auction then people at the real auction can outbid those that already 
bid online or do none of the bids start going in till the real auction? 
 Reason I ask is that it says I am current high bidder.  That seems 
like there is online bidding going on right now.

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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[BillR]

Already tried that, with no luck.  Did an uninstall and then a full 
reinstall of Outlook - nothing changed.  I use a wireless router, but the 
one time I really got hit was over that.  I was experimenting with my hand 
held while it was connected to my computer and the virus got in that way. I 
now have Semantic 10 antivirus [supplied by my wife's employer], but she 
didn't know we needed it when the virus struck.

BillR



- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes 
Discussion List'" 

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the 
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement




Bill,

I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the
issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.

One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
software vendors.

Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
anti-virus & firewall programs.

Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.

By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is
away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
keep them from going further.

But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
they would sell less worthless software.

Anti-virus software is a different story.

By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the
80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on
top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities.

Tom Hargrave
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Original Message
From: BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything
worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing "XP Repair Pro
2007".
I have little doubt that program is the problem.  The continuing problem
is
that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out
how
to get Outlook to download and send email.  I check for spyware
regularly,
though I don't expect that is the problem.
It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show
stopper.
BillR

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'BillR'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'"

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -
hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement



Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work

on

a lot of Windows boxes.

And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one

of

three causes.

1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory.

2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application.

For

example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on.

3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from

a

porn or gambling site.

Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the
systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP.

2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial

Vista

installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet.

Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is

even

better than 2000.

Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware

or

are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these

are

Microsoft's fault.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked
toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling.  The only real issue I
have
at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair

Pro


2007] has caused Outlook to crash every time there is mail to download
or
send.  The test settings works great and that test settings email is
fine to
both send and receive, the calendar and contacts works great, but I

just


can't send or receive regular emails.  I do download a 'shell' that
includes
an extra several dozen lines of stuff, then puts the 'email' at the
wrong
end of the queue, and crashes Outlook. Every time.  If there are no
emails
going out or coming in everything is fine with a 'send / receive' and

it


does not crash.  I did a backup prior to running the program, but
restore
doesn't help.  I have 

Re: [MBZ] OSX

[Redghost]

Only five?  Piker

Three on my desk, an eMac in the older kids room, iMac SE for the 
little one, wallstreet, Tibook, 6400, 5260, 7200, 9600, PB 5300, Duo 
2300, SE, imac running SETI, G3 on Einstein  A bunch of retired 
things.


Had to get rid of the IIg, IIfx, si, cx, ci, LC, LC II, LC III, color 
classic, plus, Pippin, all but the 2100 newton (100 120 130)  Classic 
II, 610, 630, 640, 900, 950, 7100, 8100. 9500, 700, 8500, MacTV.  She 
wanted the garage space back.



On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


i have 5 macs though

yes, i'm a sick man  :(


On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gary,

Took all of about 5 minutes.

Chuck
On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


fine,make me waste my sleep time downloading this

On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Me too, today .. 10.4.9!

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


10.4.9.

Tuesday.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Tom Hargrave]

Allan,

What you have is probably the best configuration.

Tom Hargrave
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Original Message
From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03/16/07 07:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
> firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
> hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the
> bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the
> firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the
> bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on
> the firewall to keep them from going further.

True, but "defense in depth" i.e. multiple layers is never a bad
thing, unless you have two layers that are conflicting with each other
(e.g. two different software firewalls active on the same machine).

I have a router and I also have Windows firewall enabled.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OSX

[Redghost]

I just tried to install that on my TiBook.  It borked it.  Talked to 
Chris at RE-PC. He tells me it is borking a whole load of the newer 
computers, but the older ones seem immune.


On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


10.4.9.

Tuesday.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers

[Redghost]

Where SWMBA works, there is a 36 month cycle for upgrading.  If it  
comes with the new OS, that is kept sealed and the prevalent OS is  
installed/cloned on.  When enough hardware has accumulated and IS is  
happy, there is a big change over to the new OS.  Took them until y2k  
to finally move to win98SE.  Still running Win2k, and no expectation of  
Vista going on any machines until 2012.


On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:


not much of a surprise:  Lets see:  $130 for a full version of OSX, or
$300-400 for a poor imitation?  This article is from Jan 4, 2007
Information Week:


1. Editor's Note: Vista Lagging, XP Unflagging

Cost of upgrading to business versions of Vista: $199, $299, or $399,
depending on which edition you choose.

Cost of staying with Windows XP? Apparently priceless.

That's one logical conclusion based on the stories that InformationWeek
readers are clicking on fast and furiously these days.

Take two of our most popular stories this week (both by Fred Langa):
XP's
No-Reformat, Nondestructive Total-Rebuild Option, in which Langa shows  
you
how to completely rebuild, repair, or refresh an existing XP  
installation

without losing data or having to reinstall user software, reformat, or
otherwise destructively alter the setup; and
XP
On Your Thumb Drive, in which he offers a step-by-step guide on how to  
boot

XP from an ordinary USB drive.

These stories about an old operating system are no spring chickens
themselves: The first was published seven months ago, and the latter a  
full
year ago. Perennial news about what appears might be a perennial  
operating

system.

The XP lovefest doesn't stop there. This week we also published Bill
O'Brien's very helpful hands-on piece
Make

Mine Media: How To Upgrade To Windows Media Center Edition, in which he
berates Microsoft for only releasing Windows XP MCE to OEMs­and shows  
you
how to turn your XP PC into a full-fledged media center. XP MCE! You  
can

just hear the crowds chanting.

And the seemly inexhaustible delight that pollsters take in asking CIOs
about their Vista upgrade plans continued this week with Deutsche Bank
Equity Research surveying IT chiefs about their 2007 plans. The  
majority
(63.6%) say they have absolutely no intention of upgrading to either  
Vista
or Office 2007 in 2007. Only 10% definitely say they will upgrade to  
Vista

this year. Sounds like it's XP for dinner again tonight.

What do you think? If you're not thoroughly exhausted from being asked
about your Vista plans, give us your opinion by responding to
my

entry in the InformationWeek Weblog.

Alice LaPlante
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.informationweek.com

AND, Information Week has had a LOT of articles about how Windows  
users are

going to Mac.  I myself have moved to an ibook with a windows remote
desktop client on it.  Does everything I need on the road, for a small
price and a very small  and light unit.  And as a bonus, the 4-5 year  
old
iboook still lasts twice as long on a battery charge as any windows  
laptop
I have ever seen or used.  THe Macbook is awesome  SWMBO has a Macbook  
with
both OSX and XP Pro.  It is flat out the best value in a windows  
laptop!



At 08:13 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:

Seems that folks are not happy with Vista in Seattle.


Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Allan Streib]

"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
> firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
> hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the
> bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the
> firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the
> bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on
> the firewall to keep them from going further.

True, but "defense in depth" i.e. multiple layers is never a bad
thing, unless you have two layers that are conflicting with each other
(e.g. two different software firewalls active on the same machine).

I have a router and I also have Windows firewall enabled.

Allan
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1966 230

Re: [MBZ] 1990 MERCEDES 300E 4 DOOR WAGON

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well unless you are in HI, not very practical to buy.

Glenn Brown wrote:

For someone who might be interested in what appears to be a rust free gasser
wagon and may know if there's an inexpensive fix for the vapor lock problem:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300e-4-door-wagon-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ220092427802QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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