date:20140724

Amen, Dan.  ATTABOY.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

That's great, Mike!

I was chiding Larry because I know all too well that people will often ask 
trusted resources like Gary for information and then go off and find the 
items they're looking for elsewhere.

As a former owner and employee of a service and parts business, I was 
often quite taken aback when people would do this.  If someone comes to me 
to ask questions of me as a subject matter expert only to take that 
information and use it to patronize another supplier I would not help them 
again.

Some might consider this not a nice thing to do, but for those who would, 
think about this the next time you do it:

I spent years of my time and thousands of dollars to acquire the knowledge 
I have in specific areas. If I choose to share that information, I should 
receive something in kind in exchange. That might be shared knowledge of 
another discipline or even something tangible in some cases. It might be 
shared with the expectation of return business, for example.

When I share that knowledge with someone and they use it elsewhere when I 
could potentially benefit from it, and they know this, I view it as 
stealing.

Maybe that's harsh, and I would agree that it is to some extent.  However, 
when someone does this they're affecting my livelihood.

When I find a supplier or business who values me as a customer and 
willingly assists me, I'll honor that commitment by patronizing their 
establishment.

Gary is a good example of this. My local MB dealer is the same way. Both 
of them will tell me if they think I can get a part elsewhere for less, 
for example.  As a result of this, I have no problem paying what might be 
a slightly higher price for the "right" part.

Gary will regularly tell me about a part that I can get from the dealer at 
the same aggregate price he could sell it to me. Brake discs are a good 
example of this.

My local dealer will do the same.

Sorry for the rant, and this is not a defense of Gary specifically. 
Because I have experienced similar situations in my former business life 
I'm really sensitive about it. When you're one of the people responsible 
for the well being of your livelihood and that of your employees, you get 
defensive about anything that takes money out of your pockets

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 24, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Mike Esh  wrote:

I just ordered new parts for my 1985 300D from Gary.  He is very helpful 
in making sure I get the right part and the right quality of the part.  I 
just recieved new Lemforder Tie Rod Assemblies, a drag link and a 
Bilstien steering shock.  I communicate with him and place my orders via 
email.  His service and shipping are always top notch.

Mike
Michael E. Esh
me...@horizonenv.com
michael...@mac.com
http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123
(C) 231.286.2344

On Jul 23, 2014, at 01:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Ordering them from our "Emperor of Parts", I assume?

After all, he has been of assistance with identifying proper vendors and 
sorting out part numbers, right?

It's important that you "pay it back", so to speak. At least it's the 
right thing to do, of course.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes 
 wrote:

>
> FYI -
> In case anyone is interested. I gave up any thought of doing 
it myself...

>
> Here's the cost comparison of installing complete LCA's Vs 
BJ's & Bushings:

> *R&R LCAs -*
> Labor - R&R LCAs $240 (L&R)
> Parts - 2 LCA's & Bolts- $194 ea = $402
> Total = *$642*
>
> *R&R BJs, Bushings & Bolts:*
> Labor = $300 (L&R)
> parts = $230
> Total = *$530.*
>
> so I'll save ~ $100 by just replacing the BJs and related 
hardware.

>
> I plan to order the BJ's and hardware shortly. It's been great 
getting your help!

>
> LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-24 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Well said Dan,  right on.
On Jul 24, 2014 8:55 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That's great, Mike!
>
> I was chiding Larry because I know all too well that people will often ask
> trusted resources like Gary for information and then go off and find the
> items they're looking for elsewhere.
>
> As a former owner and employee of a service and parts business, I was
> often quite taken aback when people would do this.  If someone comes to me
> to ask questions of me as a subject matter expert only to take that
> information and use it to patronize another supplier I would not help them
> again.
>
> Some might consider this not a nice thing to do, but for those who would,
> think about this the next time you do it:
>
> I spent years of my time and thousands of dollars to acquire the knowledge
> I have in specific areas. If I choose to share that information, I should
> receive something in kind in exchange. That might be shared knowledge of
> another discipline or even something tangible in some cases. It might be
> shared with the expectation of return business, for example.
>
> When I share that knowledge with someone and they use it elsewhere when I
> could potentially benefit from it, and they know this, I view it as
> stealing.
>
> Maybe that's harsh, and I would agree that it is to some extent.  However,
> when someone does this they're affecting my livelihood.
>
> When I find a supplier or business who values me as a customer and
> willingly assists me, I'll honor that commitment by patronizing their
> establishment.
>
> Gary is a good example of this. My local MB dealer is the same way. Both
> of them will tell me if they think I can get a part elsewhere for less, for
> example.  As a result of this, I have no problem paying what might be a
> slightly higher price for the "right" part.
>
> Gary will regularly tell me about a part that I can get from the dealer at
> the same aggregate price he could sell it to me. Brake discs are a good
> example of this.
>
> My local dealer will do the same.
>
> 
>
> Sorry for the rant, and this is not a defense of Gary specifically.
>  Because I have experienced similar situations in my former business life
> I'm really sensitive about it. When you're one of the people responsible
> for the well being of your livelihood and that of your employees, you get
> defensive about anything that takes money out of your pockets
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 24, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Mike Esh  wrote:
> >
> > I just ordered new parts for my 1985 300D from Gary.  He is very helpful
> in making sure I get the right part and the right quality of the part.  I
> just recieved new Lemforder Tie Rod Assemblies, a drag link and a Bilstien
> steering shock.  I communicate with him and place my orders via email.  His
> service and shipping are always top notch.
> >
> > Mike
> > Michael E. Esh
> > me...@horizonenv.com
> > michael...@mac.com
> > http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123
> > (C) 231.286.2344
> >
> >> On Jul 23, 2014, at 01:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ordering them from our "Emperor of Parts", I assume?
> >>
> >> After all, he has been of assistance with identifying proper vendors
> and sorting out part numbers, right?
> >>
> >> It's important that you "pay it back", so to speak. At least it's the
> right thing to do, of course.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> > On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > FYI -
> >> > In case anyone is interested. I gave up any thought of doing
> it myself...
> >> >
> >> > Here's the cost comparison of installing complete LCA's Vs
> BJ's & Bushings:
> >> > *R&R LCAs -*
> >> > Labor - R&R LCAs $240 (L&R)
> >> > Parts - 2 LCA's & Bolts- $194 ea = $402
> >> > Total = *$642*
> >> >
> >> > *R&R BJs, Bushings & Bolts:*
> >> > Labor = $300 (L&R)
> >> > parts = $230
> >> > Total = *$530.*
> >> >
> >> > so I'll save ~ $100 by just replacing the BJs and related
> hardware.
> >> >
> >> > I plan to order the BJ's and hardware shortly. It's been
> great getting your help!
> >> >
> >> > LarryT
> >> > ___
> >> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >> >
> >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >> >
> >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> >
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] '08 CLK 350 Electric Cooling Fan Update

My bet would be the coolant level sensor, but as Curt suggested, getting a
diagnostics read-out would be a good start.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

So you may be selling the afore mentioned parts?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

He also sells Bilsteins

--R

On 7/24/14 8:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That's great, Mike!

I was chiding Larry because I know all too well that people will often ask 
trusted resources like Gary for information and then go off and find the items 
they're looking for elsewhere.

As a former owner and employee of a service and parts business, I was often 
quite taken aback when people would do this.  If someone comes to me to ask 
questions of me as a subject matter expert only to take that information and 
use it to patronize another supplier I would not help them again.

Some might consider this not a nice thing to do, but for those who would, think 
about this the next time you do it:

I spent years of my time and thousands of dollars to acquire the knowledge I 
have in specific areas. If I choose to share that information, I should receive 
something in kind in exchange. That might be shared knowledge of another 
discipline or even something tangible in some cases. It might be shared with 
the expectation of return business, for example.

When I share that knowledge with someone and they use it elsewhere when I could 
potentially benefit from it, and they know this, I view it as stealing.

Maybe that's harsh, and I would agree that it is to some extent.  However, when 
someone does this they're affecting my livelihood.

When I find a supplier or business who values me as a customer and willingly 
assists me, I'll honor that commitment by patronizing their establishment.

Gary is a good example of this. My local MB dealer is the same way. Both of them will 
tell me if they think I can get a part elsewhere for less, for example.  As a result of 
this, I have no problem paying what might be a slightly higher price for the 
"right" part.

Gary will regularly tell me about a part that I can get from the dealer at the 
same aggregate price he could sell it to me. Brake discs are a good example of 
this.

My local dealer will do the same.

Sorry for the rant, and this is not a defense of Gary specifically.  Because I 
have experienced similar situations in my former business life I'm really 
sensitive about it. When you're one of the people responsible for the well 
being of your livelihood and that of your employees, you get defensive about 
anything that takes money out of your pockets

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 24, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Mike Esh  wrote:

I just ordered new parts for my 1985 300D from Gary.  He is very helpful in 
making sure I get the right part and the right quality of the part.  I just 
recieved new Lemforder Tie Rod Assemblies, a drag link and a Bilstien steering 
shock.  I communicate with him and place my orders via email.  His service and 
shipping are always top notch.

Mike
Michael E. Esh
me...@horizonenv.com
michael...@mac.com
http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123
(C) 231.286.2344

On Jul 23, 2014, at 01:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Ordering them from our "Emperor of Parts", I assume?

After all, he has been of assistance with identifying proper vendors and 
sorting out part numbers, right?

It's important that you "pay it back", so to speak. At least it's the right 
thing to do, of course.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 > On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 >
 > FYI -
 > In case anyone is interested. I gave up any thought of doing it 
myself...
 >
 > Here's the cost comparison of installing complete LCA's Vs BJ's & 
Bushings:
 > *R&R LCAs -*
 > Labor - R&R LCAs $240 (L&R)
 > Parts - 2 LCA's & Bolts- $194 ea = $402
 > Total = *$642*
 >
 > *R&R BJs, Bushings & Bolts:*
 > Labor = $300 (L&R)
 > parts = $230
 > Total = *$530.*
 >
 > so I'll save ~ $100 by just replacing the BJs and related hardware.
 >
 > I plan to order the BJ's and hardware shortly. It's been great 
getting your help!
 >
 > LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller


They all melted in place due to global warming.

--R

On 7/23/14 10:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

OK, you twisted my arm.

We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged
the bedrock with linear markings.  These lines. still visible,  indicate in
which direction the glacier was moving.  My hand shot up and I posed this
question: "When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of
striations that could cause geologists to become confused?"

The professor, quick as a wink, replied "Sure, if they turned around and
flowed backwards."


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:


Andrew wrote:

Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked

all

the time.

What stupid questions have you come across recently?
...is that stupid enough?...
Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question.
mao


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[MBZ] 211 to buy?

After 50 years with at least 2 cars in the yard and coming and going very 
independently, SWMBO and I have made it through the last year reasonably well 
with only one car, the '87 300D, but there have been several times one of us 
had to cancel appointments or juggle activities to accommodate the other.  I 
also stay fearful that I'm gonna be off somewhere and stay too long or forget 
that SWMBO needs the car.  'Been 2 or 3 times, too, when she stayed away too 
long and made me late,  but I haven't said anything about it.
  
'Might be looking for a 211.  What years were 211 CDI's?  Maybe, even an E350, 
though somewhat blasphemous.  ;<)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vchqcx4i0iss33f/TdP7088.jpg


--R

On 7/23/14 11:35 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Mention of glacial activity reminds me of an area in the hills near 
Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, where the rounded, granite top of a 
hill was polished to a mirror finish by the glacier now visible about 
10 miles away.  I enjoyed driving my truck up onto it and watching my 
many visitors, including a couple of USAF generals, other military and 
civilian officials from headquarters and Danish, Canadian and Swedish 
government officials ponder the awesomeness of the time and power of 
boulders, smaller rocks, sand and fine, powder-like sand combined with 
ice under tremendous pressure and its imperceptible movements to 
perform such a task.


Wilton 



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Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

Yep, that's what they do - just melt in place (during a warming period, 
anyway) and drop debris (moraine) wherever it happens to be, not move 
backward, unless there's a quake to cause what was high on the slope under 
the glacier before the quake to be low after the quake.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
To: "Andrew Strasfogel" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller



They all melted in place due to global warming.

--R

On 7/23/14 10:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

OK, you twisted my arm.

We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged
the bedrock with linear markings.  These lines. still visible,  indicate 
in

which direction the glacier was moving.  My hand shot up and I posed this
question: "When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of
striations that could cause geologists to become confused?"

The professor, quick as a wink, replied "Sure, if they turned around and
flowed backwards."


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Mountain Man  
wrote:



Andrew wrote:

Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked

all

the time.

What stupid questions have you come across recently?
...is that stupid enough?...
Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question.
mao


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Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Thats spec for most manual transmissions. My '88 GMC used the same.
The Jetta uses GL4 gear oil but the transmission on that FWD car is really a 
transaxle...


When my 1977 Saab was made, the spec was SAE 70 gear oil, I forget the GL 
number, but it was sulfur free and nearly odorless.
By the mid 1980s, the recomendation had changed to SAE 30 (or maybe 10W30, can't 
remember for sure) motor oil.
IIRC, it shifted a bit nicer with the proper (hard to find) gear oil than with 
5W30 M1 in it.


Chrysler's 1980s transaxles took motor oil in early years, then Dexron II or III 
later. AFAIK there was no mechanical change when the fluid changed. IIRC, my 
1989 Horizon was happier with 5W30  M1 than with the Dexron that the factory put 
in it.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller


Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

They all melted in place due to global warming.


You forgot to say man made.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

After 50 years with at least 2 cars in the yard and coming and going very
independently, SWMBO and I have made it through the last year reasonably well
with only one car, the '87 300D, but there have been several times one of us
had to cancel appointments or juggle activities to accommodate the other. I
also stay fearful that I'm gonna be off somewhere and stay too long or forget
that SWMBO needs the car. 'Been 2 or 3 times, too, when she stayed away too
long and made me late, but I haven't said anything about it.

'Might be looking for a 211. What years were 211 CDI's? Maybe, even an E350, though somewhat blasphemous. ;<)

IIRC, RLE (RIP) used to say not to touch the 2003-2005 models.
Also, IIRC, Jaime was more lenient.

I know there was a CDI in 2005, I have an electronic variable turbo from one
that I bought for a OM602 project that never happened. I'm pretty sure that all
later years had a CDI or pee diesel available. Not so sure about 2003-2004.

Anybody remember different, or claim to know more than those guys?
I certainly have no personal knowledge of anything post 210.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller


That would be redundant

--R


On 7/24/14 10:14 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

They all melted in place due to global warming.


You forgot to say man made.

Mitch.




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Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Weren't these built during the Daimler/Chrysler time frame? (bad)

Dan

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> On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>> After 50 years with at least 2 cars in the yard and coming and going very 
>> independently, SWMBO and I have made it through the last year reasonably 
>> well with only one car, the '87 300D, but there have been several times one 
>> of us had to cancel appointments or juggle activities to accommodate the 
>> other.  I also stay fearful that I'm gonna be off somewhere and stay too 
>> long or forget that SWMBO needs the car.  'Been 2 or 3 times, too, when she 
>> stayed away too long and made me late,  but I haven't said anything about it.
>>  'Might be looking for a 211.  What years were 211 CDI's?  Maybe, even an 
>> E350, though somewhat blasphemous.  ;<)
> 
> IIRC, RLE (RIP) used to say not to touch the 2003-2005 models.
> Also, IIRC, Jaime was more lenient.
> 
> I know there was a CDI in 2005, I have an electronic variable turbo from one 
> that I bought for a OM602 project that never happened. I'm pretty sure that 
> all later years had a CDI or pee diesel available. Not so sure about 
> 2003-2004.
> 
> Anybody remember different, or claim to know more than those guys?
> I certainly have no personal knowledge of anything post 210.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

I've heard only good things about MB diesel sedans from 2005 and newer.
Some really think the early cars with the straight six engine is better, I
would get the best example of the newest car I could afford, if I were in
that market.

Max Dillon,
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Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

If you are considering a diesel from the Blu era, and if you expect your money 
to outlive you and your spouse, how about a e250 (actually a e210 by engine 
displacement)?

Then you know it really will be in showroom condition.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

2014-07-24 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Yes sweet. I saw one at stealer few weeks ago.60k USD. GLK 250 might be
better deal for 39k.
On Jul 24, 2014 10:49 AM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> If you are considering a diesel from the Blu era, and if you expect your
> money to outlive you and your spouse, how about a e250 (actually a e210 by
> engine displacement)?
> Then you know it really will be in showroom condition.
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

2014-07-24 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

This thread causes me to want to share an anecdote. I had a W123 240D that
I had for a short time. Seems like it was just over a year. Had just over
300K on the clock, if memory serves, when the crankshaft broke. So, a local
guy I had been talking to had a W123 300D that was basically nothing but
rust, but a good engine, he was daily driving. My chassis was nearly rust
free, the only rust was in the front quarters really so  good chassis +
good engine = car stays on the road that much longer. Couple months ago I
was in the pull-apart looking for some parts for the Sportage I was driving
and saw a blue W123 chassis, missing two of the doors, the hood and a
quarter panel.

Hmm ... mine was a blue W123, so I had a car just like it.

So for nostalgia I'm looking around it, and see the rip in the seat I did
on accident. The broken place on the dash that mine had ... this was *my*
W123.

So the guy says, after sending him an email, "Yeah, it turned out to be too
much trouble so I'm just driving the one I already had."

*sighs*

There is nothing quite like finding the car you had hoped would be fixed,
stripped instead.

On a related note, my truck died last weekend, so I'm suddenly in the
market for a car. Anyone have a decent looking, great running car taking up
too much space in the driveway?

EdB

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
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> Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
> 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps,
> condenser, radiator, etc.
>
> Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 23/07/2014 9:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

OK, you twisted my arm.

We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged
the bedrock with linear markings.  These lines. still visible,  indicate in
which direction the glacier was moving.  My hand shot up and I posed this
question: "When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of
striations that could cause geologists to become confused?"

The professor, quick as a wink, replied "Sure, if they turned around and
flowed backwards."



Even if they had made lines on a slow retreat as they melted, would they 
not have been in the same direction as their advance?
I shouldn't think they would have started off in another direction to 
either side.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

>From the StarTekInfo site, the "E320" 211 CDI (211.026, with 648.961 inline
6 engine), was produced from 2004 to 2006.

The "E320" 211 Bluetec began production 2007, 211.022, with 642.920 v6
engine.  It looks like production ran through 2009, and then the 212 model
was introduced in 2010.

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

2014-07-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I am your man if you need "cherry"123  palomino door and rear hatch panels
for a 300D/TD.  I also have a couple blue door panels and a hatch area
headliner cover for a 300D/TD.  They are all offered at below market
prices.

For all you W108/109/111 fans, I have TWO spare rariators, an oil cooler, a
front bumper and rear bumper overriders for a 280SE 3.5 COUPE.  Some of the
coupe chrome is NOS or nearly so.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This thread causes me to want to share an anecdote. I had a W123 240D that
> I had for a short time. Seems like it was just over a year. Had just over
> 300K on the clock, if memory serves, when the crankshaft broke. So, a local
> guy I had been talking to had a W123 300D that was basically nothing but
> rust, but a good engine, he was daily driving. My chassis was nearly rust
> free, the only rust was in the front quarters really so  good chassis +
> good engine = car stays on the road that much longer. Couple months ago I
> was in the pull-apart looking for some parts for the Sportage I was driving
> and saw a blue W123 chassis, missing two of the doors, the hood and a
> quarter panel.
>
> Hmm ... mine was a blue W123, so I had a car just like it.
>
> So for nostalgia I'm looking around it, and see the rip in the seat I did
> on accident. The broken place on the dash that mine had ... this was *my*
> W123.
>
> So the guy says, after sending him an email, "Yeah, it turned out to be too
> much trouble so I'm just driving the one I already had."
>
> *sighs*
>
> There is nothing quite like finding the car you had hoped would be fixed,
> stripped instead.
>
> On a related note, my truck died last weekend, so I'm suddenly in the
> market for a car. Anyone have a decent looking, great running car taking up
> too much space in the driveway?
>
> EdB
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
> > 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps,
> > condenser, radiator, etc.
> >
> > Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

2014-07-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 24/07/2014 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I am your man if you need "cherry"123  palomino door and rear hatch panels
for a 300D/TD.  I also have a couple blue door panels and a hatch area
headliner cover for a 300D/TD.  They are all offered at below market
prices.

For all you W108/109/111 fans, I have TWO spare rariators, an oil cooler, a
front bumper and rear bumper overriders for a 280SE 3.5 COUPE.  Some of the
coupe chrome is NOS or nearly so.




Ooooh! "Rariators" are very rare!

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Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

Thnx.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 

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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?

From the StarTekInfo site, the "E320" 211 CDI (211.026, with 648.961 
inline

6 engine), was produced from 2004 to 2006.

The "E320" 211 Bluetec began production 2007, 211.022, with 642.920 v6
engine.  It looks like production ran through 2009, and then the 212 model
was introduced in 2010.

-Max
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