sound (audio) problems
I have developed a language program that plays sound files (.wav). After I updated to 2.7.3, the sound files would not play. I did not modify any script related to the files. The dataPath is set properly and the files are stored in the proper folder. If I click on individual sound files outside of Revolution, they work fine so the audio problem is with Revolution and not with the computer. I have reinstalled Revolution but the problem remains. Most strange, the sound files in a standalone built months ago for another program no longer work. ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound screws up in Linux
On Nov 4, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Mathewson wrote: I suppose the bottom line is that I shall have to have a very dirty weekend embedding every possible sound configuration I can think of in a stack on the Mac and them messing around with it on the Kubuntu PC - although a little voice tells me that this is rather inefficient. I would be extremely grateful for any help in this area. Hi Richmond, I have been using .wav file successfully in Linux. Give those a try. The only problem is that you will have to convert all of your sound files to this format. There are a number of programs on the Mac and probably PC that will do all the heavy lifting for you and batch process them. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Richmond "snorts" RR 2.6.1 - Linux & Sound
Wow Baby! That was totally rad! Downloaded the trial version of RR 2.6.1 for Linux and "off I went" - to see what the new AU and AIF capabilities were like. A simple stack with a "PLAY IT BABY!" button containing the following script: on mouseUp play audioClip "BROWN COW.aif" end mouseUp did not produce my "rich, mature, masculine voice" saying 'Brown Cow' - but something rather like Mickey Mouse high on drugs (the mind boggles) saying something like 'Brown Cow' in a high-pitched eccentric voice. the same went for an AU version of the same sound file. Now, the fact that one no longer has to "piss around" (to use a technical phrase) with xanim is FANTASTIC! REALLY FANTASTIC! NOW, I'm going to buy the latest version of RR for Linux WHEN it both plays the sound files, and makes me sound like me . . . sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound on Linux and "stupid" Richmond
on Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:43:55 -0500 Richmond Mathewson wrote: > For those of you working with the FREE NOVELL > LINUX RR Distro (for which I am extremely grateful) > KNOW NOW that the only sound format that > works is WAV. Richmond, i noticed that you imply that NOVELL gives away SUSE LINUX with a licenced version of RunRev v 2.2.1 :-O Which SUSE version are you using that have RunRev bundled for free? Is it the Personal, Professional or free version of SUSE? Is it the DVD or CD version? :-O <http://www.runrev.com/section/press/36.php> Thanks in advance. al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Oh Dear, Linux and Sound - A-A-A-A-GAIN
More egg-salad with the WAV files. 1. Is the problem that the WAV files are embedded? 1a. This seems unlikely as Kubuntu makes a hash of the same WAV files when played externally. 2. Whither QUICKTIME 4 LINUX and will this DO THE TRICK ? 3. Under-Documentation. 4. xanim - no, surely not? Richmond __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Sound on Linux and "stupid" Richmond
WELL ? ? ? Is it stupid Richmond or under-documented RR ? Dunno - leave the question open. Anyway, Happy Campers - I, accidently discovered that RR 2.2.1 on Linux can only cope with WAV files . . . And, How did I find this out? By reading a page on the RunRev site that pointed out that AU and AIFF support for Linux had been added in RR 2.5 NOW . . . wouldn't it be lovely if one could find these things out in a simple and painless way . . . For those of you working with the FREE NOVELL LINUX RR Distro (for which I am extremely grateful) KNOW NOW that the only sound format that works is WAV. Sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Sound screws up in Linux
Having spent some time on the first cycle of my EFL system development - making the stacks using my licensed version of Dreamcard - I popped them onto my "new" PC (PIII, 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM - Kubuntu 5.10) - A BIG THANK YOU TO NOVELL for FREE RR 2.2.1 - and when I clicked on the button "Brown Cow" instead of hearing my growly voice saying "Brown Cow" (No rocket science round here - just English for 6 year-old Bulgarians) I heard something very like a cat being run over by a truck . . . Hard science: recorded the sound on a Mac using the Sound Studio program that came bundled with the 10.2 install - Mono, 44.000, AIFF I suspect this is not the right format for Linux, but can find nothing in either RR or MC documentation. More rests on this than my poxy little language school as the resulting programs (standalones) for Linux will be uploaded to Ubuntu for distribution in Africa (Mind you, I can't help feeling sorry for the poor Africans having to put up with my Brown Cows). I hope, hope, hope that I can get sound to behave in Linux without resort to the superannuated and crappy xanim. And, Mike Talluto, as my name is mud in RR circles (!!!) I cannot get into Bugzilla, etc. and say my piece about movie files and so forth with RR/MC in Linux. I suppose the bottom line is that I shall have to have a very dirty weekend embedding every possible sound configuration I can think of in a stack on the Mac and them messing around with it on the Kubuntu PC - although a little voice tells me that this is rather inefficient. I would be extremely grateful for any help in this area. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: A problem with sound in Linux
On Sunday 10 November 2002 19:22, Scott Rossi wrote: > > I've been noticing that in a good number of soundcards (including mine, a > > SB Live! with OSS driver), using "play somesound.au" or "play audioclip > > somesound.au" results a garbled audio output. There's nothing wrong with > > the audio files, and I can even play them perfectly in a console or > > terminal emulator, using "xanim somesound.au" or "play somesound.au". If > > I use the wav format, I got the same result. > > > > Curiously, the only way I had found to play correctly those files in > > MetaCard is using something like "start player somesound". > > > > Does somebody know why the play command does not work well in MetaCard > > with some soundcards, even though 'xanim' is up and running? Is there a > > way to solve it without having to create a player for each audio file? > > You might try checking the sample rates of the problem files. MC's > built-in playback favors "standard" sampling rates of 11k, 22k and 44k, at > 8 and 16 bits. Also, playback seems to be even more finicky when it comes > to .au formatted sounds. I don't have any specific recipes for problems, > but apparently it is "unusual" to have a 16 bit, 22k .au file, and MC will > often not be able to handle it. > Thank you. I have the sound files in "standard" sampling rates. The au files are 11Hz, 8 bits, the wav files (which are not part of my program, used just for testing) are 22Hz, 16 bits. 'play' output is a garbled sound in both cases. > The reason a player can handle these sounds is because (as I understand it) > player objects hand off playback to the multimedia resources of the host > system (QuickTime, Window Media Player, etc) and these technologies are > much more forgiving of varying sampling rates/bit depths. > Ummmh. I had seen the 'play' problem only in some soundcards (there are others that handle those sound files very well). How could we know the source of the problem? is it the way metacard handle sound? > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > > Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: www.tactilemedia.com > > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: A problem with sound in Linux
> I've been noticing that in a good number of soundcards (including mine, a SB > Live! with OSS driver), using "play somesound.au" or "play audioclip > somesound.au" results a garbled audio output. There's nothing wrong with the > audio files, and I can even play them perfectly in a console or terminal > emulator, using "xanim somesound.au" or "play somesound.au". If I use the wav > format, I got the same result. > > Curiously, the only way I had found to play correctly those files in MetaCard > is using something like "start player somesound". > > Does somebody know why the play command does not work well in MetaCard with > some soundcards, even though 'xanim' is up and running? Is there a > way to solve it without having to create a player for each audio file? You might try checking the sample rates of the problem files. MC's built-in playback favors "standard" sampling rates of 11k, 22k and 44k, at 8 and 16 bits. Also, playback seems to be even more finicky when it comes to .au formatted sounds. I don't have any specific recipes for problems, but apparently it is "unusual" to have a 16 bit, 22k .au file, and MC will often not be able to handle it. The reason a player can handle these sounds is because (as I understand it) player objects hand off playback to the multimedia resources of the host system (QuickTime, Window Media Player, etc) and these technologies are much more forgiving of varying sampling rates/bit depths. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
A problem with sound in Linux
I've been noticing that in a good number of soundcards (including mine, a SB Live! with OSS driver), using "play somesound.au" or "play audioclip somesound.au" results a garbled audio output. There's nothing wrong with the audio files, and I can even play them perfectly in a console or terminal emulator, using "xanim somesound.au" or "play somesound.au". If I use the wav format, I got the same result. Curiously, the only way I had found to play correctly those files in MetaCard is using something like "start player somesound". Does somebody know why the play command does not work well in MetaCard with some soundcards, even though 'xanim' is up and running? Is there a way to solve it without having to create a player for each audio file? Thanks in advance. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound
Actually, you can go right to the tip at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/metacard.htm?aud002 Enjoy! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "Michael Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Sound > > > > > >Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1): > >I want to record some voice to a file and then play it. > >This is what I have so far: > > > >record sound file x > >stop recording > >start player 1 > > > >but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some > >recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general. > >Also, can I record to a variable instead of file? > >I wish the archive had a search engine... > > > >Regards, Andu Novac > > > > > > There is an article about this at the sons of thunder website: > > http://www.sonsothunder.com/index2.htm > > > Which describes almost exactly the sort of problems you are having > and a potential solution. > > > This is quoted below: > > > "> I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound > > recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of > >MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it? > > Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3. It's a major hack internally, > though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD > quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output > the type of file requested). > > > I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my > > windows. > > Be sure you're recording to a format that "play audioClip" > understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT > can produce. If you must play those, use "play videoClip " > instead. That uses QT, which although much slower and more memory > intensive can play many more formats than the default play command > which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't > support compression. > > Posted 9/2/2002 by Scott Raney to the MetaCard List " > > > > Michael > ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound
--On Monday, October 07, 2002 11:19:27 +1300 Michael Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is an article about this at the sons of thunder website: > > http://www.sonsothunder.com/index2.htm > > > Which describes almost exactly the sort of problems you are having and a > potential solution. > Thanks. > > Michael > Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Sound
Title: Sound Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1): I want to record some voice to a file and then play it. This is what I have so far: record sound file x stop recording start player 1 but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general. Also, can I record to a variable instead of file? I wish the archive had a search engine... Regards, Andu Novac There is an article about this at the sons of thunder website: http://www.sonsothunder.com/index2.htm Which describes almost exactly the sort of problems you are having and a potential solution. This is quoted below: "> I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound > recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it? Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3. It's a major hack internally, though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output the type of file requested). > I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my > windows. Be sure you're recording to a format that "play audioClip" understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT can produce. If you must play those, use "play videoClip " instead. That uses QT, which although much slower and more memory intensive can play many more formats than the default play command which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't support compression. Posted 9/2/2002 by Scott Raney to the MetaCard List " Michael
Re: sound
--On Saturday, October 05, 2002 21:51:21 -0700 erik hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > andu wrote: > I wish the archive had a search engine... > > === > > it does. I found that out eventually but... the link at the bottom of list mails, "http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard";, points to a page where there is no mention of a search function. That one is on the metacard site and it points to xworlds.com/... which in turn has the correct links for searchable archive... unless I'm getting blind. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > faith.yahoo.com Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Sound blues in Linux
I noticed that in certain soundcards (including mine, a SB Live! with OSS driver), using "play somesound.au" or "play audioclip somesound.au" results a garbled audio output. There's nothing wrong with the audio files, and I can even play them perfectly in a console or terminal emulator, using "xanim somesound.au" or "play somesound.au". Curiously, the only way I had found to play correctly those files in MetaCard is using something like "start player somesound". Does somebody know why the play command does not work well in MetaCard with some soundcards, even though when 'xanim' is up and running? Is there a way to solve it without having to create a player for each audio file? ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: sound
andu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:I wish the archive had a search engine... === it does.[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikhansen.orgDo you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
Re: sound
Sorry, can't advise about sound, but... > I wish the archive had a search engine... The archive_s_ do. These are the urls for the two archives I know of: (new archive) http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.runrev.com/ (old archive) http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Cheers. Nicolas Cueto
Re: sound
--On Saturday, October 05, 2002 16:49:14 -0700 Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought the archive does have a search feature: That's what I thought too but couldn't find the url at http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard where I expected it, thanks. > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=and&format=short&conf > ig=metacard_lists_runrev_com&restrict=&exclude=&words=record+playback > > Phil > > > - Original Message - > From: "andu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:38 PM > Subject: sound > > >> Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1): >> I want to record some voice to a file and then play it. >> This is what I have so far: >> >> record sound file x >> stop recording >> start player 1 >> >> but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some >> recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general. >> Also, can I record to a variable instead of file? >> I wish the archive had a search engine... >> >> Regards, Andu Novac >> ___ >> metacard mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: sound
I thought the archive does have a search feature: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=and&format=short&config=metacard_lists_runrev_com&restrict=&exclude=&words=record+playback Phil - Original Message - From: "andu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: sound > Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1): > I want to record some voice to a file and then play it. > This is what I have so far: > > record sound file x > stop recording > start player 1 > > but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some > recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general. > Also, can I record to a variable instead of file? > I wish the archive had a search engine... > > Regards, Andu Novac > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
sound
Could someone help me with sound related properties (MacOS 9.1): I want to record some voice to a file and then play it. This is what I have so far: record sound file x stop recording start player 1 but the playback sounds very funny. I know I may have to set some recording/playback properties but I know nothing about sound in general. Also, can I record to a variable instead of file? I wish the archive had a search engine... Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
play sound
Hello to all In some of my programs sounds (.au) are downloaded from a server, but the way it is scripted, a ".au" file is left permanently on the local harddisk (even though shifting contents for each new sound). The script lines (using DownloadNPlay and Updateme) are: if stat contains "cached" then put "Done" into field "progress" set the thumbpos of sb 1 to the endValue of sb 1 wait 500 milliseconds hide group "watchProgress" put url href into tVar put "binfile:" & the directory & "/sfp.au" into filnavn put tVar into url filnavn --A sound file named "sfp.au" is created locally put the directory & "/sfp.au" into lydfil play lydfil unload url href exit to MetaCard end if In order to avoid creating the file "sfp.au" I have tried: set filename of player "lyd" to href start player 1 Here the filename of the player is correct, but it does NOT start the player. If I use a separate button with "start player 1" everything is OK. If I use: set filename of player "lyd" to URL href start player 1 the filename of the player is ".snd" and no sound comes out. Looking forward to hearing your suggestions... -- 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Oysteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html Norway ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Recording sound on Win32 w/o QuickTime
I've gotten a lot of ideas, examples and help from the list and I figure it's my turn to contribute something. I have a stack for recording .wav files on Win32 using MCIsendString (so you don't need Quicktime!) You can grab it here: http://perlingua.50megs.com/MCI_record.zip Cheers Tom McCarthy Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound Recording
on 9/2/02 1:04 PM, Scott Raney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound >> recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of >> MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it? > > Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3. It's a major hack internally, > though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD > quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output the > type of file requested). > >> I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my >> windows. > > Be sure you're recording to a format that "play audioClip" > understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT > can produce. If you must play those, use "play videoClip " > instead. That uses QT, which although much slower and more memory > intensive can play many more formats than the default play command > which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't > support compression. > Regards > Scott I'm using Metacard 2.4.3, System 8.6 on a Mac Powerbook G3 and I'm still getting chipmunks when I play back the sounds I record. The easiest solution I've found is to simply record sounds in AudioShop or something and save them as WAVE files which play at normal speed. Ray Horsley ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound Recording
On Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound > recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of > MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it? Seems to work fine here now in 2.4.3. It's a major hack internally, though, because of bugs in QT recording (we have to always record CD quality to a QT movie and then use a conversion function to output the type of file requested). > I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my > windows. Be sure you're recording to a format that "play audioClip" understands, which mostly rules out all of the compressed formats QT can produce. If you must play those, use "play videoClip " instead. That uses QT, which although much slower and more memory intensive can play many more formats than the default play command which uses low-level sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't support compression. Regards Scott Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metacard.com MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that... ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound Recording
If you're trying to record from within Metacard, and it has to be from within Metacard, no ideas. If you're just trying to record to import into Metacard, I just use an empty stack, lauch ResEdit, open the sound resource, and record via ResEdit. It creates a sound resource that I can then open from a sound editing program and "clean up" the pauses before and aft, and then save it to a .wav file to import. A lot of steps, but it does work. And without all the static and squeals. Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Sound Recording
>I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound >recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of >MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it? No, nor have I. I've been told there is a bug in QuickTime (I have not tried the most recent version of it.) > >I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my windows. > >My workaround so far is to use SendMCIstring on Windows and the >external from RunRev on my Mac. But I'd rather have the same code >for both platforms. > >Thanks, >Tom Another workaround is: if the platform = "win32" then get queryRegistry("hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\") put word 1 to -2 of it into lyd launch lyd end if Signe Marie -- 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Oysteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html Norway ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Sound Recording
I've wasted a lot of time in the past trying to get QuickTime sound recording working. So before I try again with the latest version of MetaCard, has anyone had any success with it? I still get irritating squeeks on my mac and grabled garbage on my windows. My workaround so far is to use SendMCIstring on Windows and the external from RunRev on my Mac. But I'd rather have the same code for both platforms. Thanks, Tom Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: record sound bug
> amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne wrote: > > On Mac I have found that the corresponding panel is called "Apple > Simple Sound Record Dialog", but I do not know how to open it from > within MC. I'm sure someone must have the right recipe, either using > "GURLGURL", open process, or launch or something, or an Apple Event. > I'm eagerly looking forward to suggestions. Thanks in advance. > -- > You can launch the application "simpleSound" if it is present on the system, but you must then specify "new sound", record the sound, then specify the name and place to save it. i.e. it is fairly labor intensive. So, instead, I have used a dedicated supercard stack which I can then pass all this info on to with a simple copy paste into a supercard field. I can then launch this supercard stack each time from metacard and use this to access the apple record dialog. After using this dialog, it does not ask you to specify the file name and location, as the simple sound dialog does. I do not know if that means it is actually a different dialog, or if that asking behaviour comes from the application 'simplesound'. But you are right, it would be nice if we could access the same dialog direct from metacard. If supercard can do it, surely metacard can too. The dialog is nice as it allows multiple recordings and playbacks before one actually commits to saving anything as a file on the HD. This is, as it turns out, often crucial. mark mitchell ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: record sound bug?
>On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 10:03 AM, cowhead wrote: > >>There used to be a "send bug reports to." on this mailing >>list...but it seems to have disappeared. Anyway, back to the old >>"record sound" saga... >> >>It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've >>been forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks >>before this) but I can only get it to work well when using the >>"with dialog" command...eg. >>ask file "what" >>record sound IT with dialog >> >>This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the >>'recordFormats()' options, and there are quite a few that sound >>really good on a Mac (OS 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little >>memory space as well. Unfortunately, if you try to record directly >>in these formats, without going through the dialog, it doesn't >>sound good anymore. Moreover, the quality level makes no >>difference. e.g. >> >>record sound file it as fl64 with best quality >> >>sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) >>recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear. I suspect >>the culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect >>in the direct (non dialog) script. I suspect that the dialog is >>recording as 'best' but not the direct script. I wish I could see >>what the 'sound settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I >>can't find it. I've tried putting quotes around the quality in the >>direct script (e.g with "best" quality), but the >>compiler will not accept this. >> >>In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any >>format which sounds really good on the Mac? Or is there something >>broken here that might ought to be fixed (my opinion). I don't >>want to have to go through the dialog each time. >> >>Thanks! >> >>mark mitchell > > >IMHO, something is wrong. I can get it to record, but it is only in >the Qualcomm PureVoice,"Qclp". This one records very clearly. My >only problem is that it does not get the very beginning of a sound >and sometime it does. Sometimes it puts the first 2 seconds at the >end of the recorded sound. When I can get around to understanding >it more, I will bug report it more clearly to Scott. > >I use the following script in a record button: > record sound file tName as Qclp --tName is a variable for the sound file > >Stop button: > stop recording > >I would be interested to know if this happens for you. Have only >done most of my testing on OS 10 > >-Mark Talluto > I am able to record (with dialog) on Mac at 22.050 kHz and on Windows at 44.100. However, I would also get rid of the dialog, and have chosen the PC inbuilt sound panel: put word 1 to -2 of queryRegistry("hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\") into tRecorder launch tRecorder On Mac I have found that the corresponding panel is called "Apple Simple Sound Record Dialog", but I do not know how to open it from within MC. I'm sure someone must have the right recipe, either using "GURLGURL", open process, or launch or something, or an Apple Event. I'm eagerly looking forward to suggestions. Thanks in advance. -- 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Oysteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html Norway ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: record sound bug?
On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 10:03 AM, cowhead wrote: > There used to be a "send bug reports to." on this mailing > list...but it seems to have disappeared. Anyway, back to the old > "record sound" saga... > > It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've been > forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks before > this) but I can only get it to work well when using the "with dialog" > command...eg. > ask file "what" > record sound IT with dialog > > This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 'recordFormats()' > options, and there are quite a few that sound really good on a Mac (OS > 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little memory space as well. > Unfortunately, if you try to record directly in these formats, without > going through the dialog, it doesn't sound good anymore. Moreover, the > quality level makes no difference. e.g. > > record sound file it as fl64 with best quality > > sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) > recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear. I suspect the > culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect in the > direct (non dialog) script. I suspect that the dialog is recording as > 'best' but not the direct script. I wish I could see what the 'sound > settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I can't find it. I've > tried putting quotes around the quality in the direct script (e.g with > "best" quality), but the > compiler will not accept this. > > In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any format > which sounds really good on the Mac? Or is there something broken here > that might ought to be fixed (my opinion). I don't want to have to go > through the dialog each time. > > Thanks! > > mark mitchell IMHO, something is wrong. I can get it to record, but it is only in the Qualcomm PureVoice,"Qclp". This one records very clearly. My only problem is that it does not get the very beginning of a sound and sometime it does. Sometimes it puts the first 2 seconds at the end of the recorded sound. When I can get around to understanding it more, I will bug report it more clearly to Scott. I use the following script in a record button: record sound file tName as Qclp --tName is a variable for the sound file Stop button: stop recording I would be interested to know if this happens for you. Have only done most of my testing on OS 10 -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
record sound bug?
There used to be a "send bug reports to." on this mailing list...but it seems to have disappeared. Anyway, back to the old "record sound" saga... It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've been forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks before this) but I can only get it to work well when using the "with dialog" command...eg. ask file "what" record sound IT with dialog This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 'recordFormats()' options, and there are quite a few that sound really good on a Mac (OS 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little memory space as well. Unfortunately, if you try to record directly in these formats, without going through the dialog, it doesn't sound good anymore. Moreover, the quality level makes no difference. e.g. record sound file it as fl64 with best quality sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear. I suspect the culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect in the direct (non dialog) script. I suspect that the dialog is recording as 'best' but not the direct script. I wish I could see what the 'sound settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I can't find it. I've tried putting quotes around the quality in the direct script (e.g with "best" quality), but the compiler will not accept this. In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any format which sounds really good on the Mac? Or is there something broken here that might ought to be fixed (my opinion). I don't want to have to go through the dialog each time. Thanks! mark mitchell ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Sound recording
In case someone else did not know it (it took me quite some time to find it out), you can launch the sound recording panel on Windows with the following command: put word 1 to -2 of queryRegistry("hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\") into tRecorder launch tRecorder I have not been able to find the equivalent on Mac, would be grateful for a recipe. Thanks in advance. Regards Signe Marie Sanne -- 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Oysteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html Norway ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
re: recording sound
> >On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either >>"ulaw", "ima4" or "mace 3:1" chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 >>khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as >>"mysound.mov") record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to >>record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance. > >44khz works fine here. QT 5 seems to be some kind of screwed with 22khz. > >Tuviah Thanks a lot, I have now got it to work on PC, but on repeated recordings it seems to refuse to record (I have just tried out Mac3 + 44.100 kHz) on Windows 2000. Since it now is possible to script the compression (record ... as "ulaw/ima4/mac3" etc) would it be possible to script the rate? (For instance: if the platform = "macos" then set the rate to 22.050 or if the platform = "win32" then set the rate to 44.100) As I have mentioned earlier I would also like to be able to launch the small built-in panel "Sound - sound recording" (if this is the name in English, I have just my Norwegian names). When I search for it, I just see 3 aliases. The students shall record short sound strings which they can listen to and compare them to a model voice. This means there is no need to save the sound to disk if they can use the panel instead. I have no experience with open process.. or queryRegistry so far if that's the way to go. Any suggestions? -- 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Oysteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html Norway Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
re: recording sound
>On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either >"ulaw", "ima4" or "mace 3:1" chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 >khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as >"mysound.mov") record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to >record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance. 44khz works fine here. QT 5 seems to be some kind of screwed with 22khz. Tuviah Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Recording sound
>On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 06:04 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: > >>Hello to all, >> >>Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 - >>I have struggled with Tuvias stack "RecordSound" from which I have taken: >> >> record sound lydfil with dialog >> put the seconds into nsecs >> repeat while recording is true >> wait for 0.20 seconds with messages >> set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness() >> end repeat >> put "recorded for "&&the seconds - nsecs&&"seconds" >> >>On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either >>"ulaw", "ima4" or "mace 3:1" chosen in the dialog box and with >>22.050 khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as >>"mysound.mov") record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to >>record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance. >> > >Have you tried the built-in sound recording feature in 2.4 and >2.4.1? While I have yet to try it on the PC, I have used it with >great success on the Mac. You should download the latest version of >2.4.1 while you are at it. Sorry, just a typo, I'm using the very new version MC2.4.1 build 4 (from 17th Nov). So back to my questions... Has anyone got the recording to work on a PC? (I'm on Win2000) With what compression? and which khz? Which extension for the recorded sound? I have just tried .mov which I saw in a posting, what about .aif, .au or .wav? Does each of them correspond to a particular compression? Sorry for my ignorance. I was also wondering about trying to launch the PC built-in sound recording panel (which I usually use to record my voice on PC, but outside MetaCard), but I do not know how to launch the panel from within PC, and I was hoping MC's new recording capability would make this unnecessary (as it actually has on Mac). My aim is to let students record their own voice, listen to it and compare it to a model voice. Suggestions? Thanks in advance. -- 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Oysteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html Norway Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Recording sound
On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 06:04 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: > Hello to all, > > Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 - > I have struggled with Tuvias stack "RecordSound" from which I have > taken: > > record sound lydfil with dialog > put the seconds into nsecs > repeat while recording is true > wait for 0.20 seconds with messages > set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness() > end repeat > put "recorded for "&&the seconds - nsecs&&"seconds" > > On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either > "ulaw", "ima4" or "mace 3:1" chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 > khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as "mysound.mov") > record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to record on PC, > please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance. > Have you tried the built-in sound recording feature in 2.4 and 2.4.1? While I have yet to try it on the PC, I have used it with great success on the Mac. You should download the latest version of 2.4.1 while you are at it. I have a fast mirror of all the MC files at: www.clearsoftware.com/mcmirror.html -Mark Talluto Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Recording sound
Hello to all, Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 - I have struggled with Tuvias stack "RecordSound" from which I have taken: record sound lydfil with dialog put the seconds into nsecs repeat while recording is true wait for 0.20 seconds with messages set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness() end repeat put "recorded for "&&the seconds - nsecs&&"seconds" On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either "ulaw", "ima4" or "mace 3:1" chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as "mysound.mov") record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance. -- 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Oysteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/default.html Norway Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Sound recording on a Mac?
I have managed to work around the half-speed playback of sounds recorded in Metacard (scrip to record "with dialog"). My question is this: is it possible to script the sample rate to 32 kHz instead of forcing the user to make the selection in the dialog box? I can't find any reference in the documentation to setting this parameter, and so I appeal to the gurus out there... Thanks! Dennie -- D e n n i e H o o p i n g a r n e r Assistant Director for Technology Implementation Center for Language Education And Research Acting Director, Language Learning Center Michigan State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://clear.msu.edu/dennie Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
record sound. MP3?
I tried the 'record sound file' command in the new 2.4 beta, but the quality seems really bad, with no difference between 'good' , 'better' and 'best'. The quality is significantly lower than the lowest quality of the supercard record sound (6:1 comp, AIFF format). But what I would really like is to be able to record directly (from microphone) into MP3. Given the quality and universality and comparative cheapness of MP3 (converting the supercard 'best' to MP3 cut the memory in half, with no detectable loss in quality) it seems silly to be messing with other formats at this time. Does anyone know of a plug-in that will allow direct recording of MP3 in either hyper, super, or meta card? I know that using N2MP3Pro (commercial MP3 software) you can directly record from microphone to MP3, but I don't want the hassle of having to use a second application in conjunction with my meta-card project. thanks, mark mitchell Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
OT: Recording sound--quality issues
We record a lot of sound and have used DAT tapes, but, in the interests of trying to simplify hardware configurations (decks, amps plugs, cords) and the time required to pass sound from DAT tapes to digital formats, (mpg) we are working to record directly into our MACs in many contexts. With this ability being on board in 2.4, direct input becomes even more enticing: problem: the "background hiss/hum" that seems to always get added to the sound when it is recorded directly into a MAC... We are using high quality microphones and the mic is held enough away from the computer that the sound of the spinning of the hard drive can't be implicated and there is a "worry" that possibly the internal hardware of the MAC is actually adding this to the soundif I take the same mic and put it into a DAT machine in the exact same spot... no background hum...so it is definitely "computer" added. If anyone knows about these issues and solutions, perhaps you could email me off list? Thanks Hinduism Today Sivakatirswami Editor's Assistant/Production Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HinduismToday.com, www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.Gurudeva.org, www.hindu.org Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Sound recording beta bug?
>Has anyone managed to get the recordsound stack or the record command >to work on a Macintosh, and if so, would they be willing to share >their experience? eg., "it just worked" or "here are the 8 steps I >needed to use" :-) Yup. It works fine. Well almost fine... * Don't use 8 bit recording as it sounds terrible (like some sort of very bad downsampling error) * Record at 22.025 kHz. Recording at 44 kHz generates a file with the wrong playback speed. So does 48 kHz. Strangely 32 kHz doesn't. * I recorded without any compresssion as well. All in all recording does work but it needs more work. But then again this is a beta version so it is early days yet... Michael Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
RE: Sound recording beta bug?
> Hmmm... I tried that but get an error: > Warning: tools stack versiob (2.4B1) does not match engine version > (2.3), and typing in record "mysound" in the message box returns "no > permission to send that", "group: bad object type", "go: error in > background expression", and "move: bad end point expression" :-( > Well that's the answer. You have replaced the tools stack but not the engine. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Sound recording beta bug?
> >From: Mark Talluto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Sound recording beta bug? > >You need to put the Mac 2.4 files in with your 2.3.2 files. They will >replace the current files of the same name. So, be careful when doing >this as you will delete your mctools stack as well as your engines from >2.3.2. Make backups if you need them later. This will make 2.4 work on >your Mac with all the development tools of 2.3.2. > >-Mark Talluto > Hmmm... I tried that but get an error: Warning: tools stack versiob (2.4B1) does not match engine version (2.3), and typing in record "mysound" in the message box returns "no permission to send that", "group: bad object type", "go: error in background expression", and "move: bad end point expression" :-( Has anyone managed to get the recordsound stack or the record command to work on a Macintosh, and if so, would they be willing to share their experience? eg., "it just worked" or "here are the 8 steps I needed to use" :-) Has anyone managed to get the Windows side working correctly too? ie., without the play command making screeches instead of playing the sound back, and without Quicktime player/Windows media player playing the sounds back at half speed. That might tell me whether I should be playing with sound recording on another PC or not :-) Cheers, Mark Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Sound recording beta bug?
Mark wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > I am currently playing around with the 2.4 beta, and have a couple of > questions regarding sound recording and unusual behaviour. > > I have been using Tuvias "recordsound" example stack to record sounds > with several settings (including the default settings), but when I > play back the sounds using the QuickTime Player or Windows Media > Player (for the formats it can play), the sound is played back at > what seems roughly half speed. > > Using the command to play back the recorded sound > from within MetaCard is even worse - harsh squeels are emitted from > the speaker. > > Has anyone else had this sort of behaviour from the beta, and can > anyone suggest a work around? eg., an external equivalent with some > example 'how to use this' code? (Macintosh or Windows). > > I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there > does not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are > in the ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the > development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?). Don't know about recording sound but you can use the same development environment with the appropriate engine for all platforms. That is, if you have the home, tools and help stacks for windows transfer them over to the mac and use them. You might want to change type/creator to MST MICR. > > Thanks, > Mark > -- Andu Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
RE: Sound recording beta bug?
Or even better create two folders in your MetaCard folder. Stable and Latest. Then just put the 2.4 engine and tools in the latest folder and move the 2.3.2 engine and tools into the stable folder. You can now use the same Home and Help stacks for different versions. > > You need to put the Mac 2.4 files in with your 2.3.2 files. They will > replace the current files of the same name. So, be careful when doing > this as you will delete your mctools stack as well as your engines from > 2.3.2. Make backups if you need them later. This will make 2.4 work on > your Mac with all the development tools of 2.3.2. > > -Mark Talluto > > > On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 05:22 PM, Mark wrote: > > > I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there does > > not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are in the > > ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the > > development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?). > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Sound recording beta bug?
You need to put the Mac 2.4 files in with your 2.3.2 files. They will replace the current files of the same name. So, be careful when doing this as you will delete your mctools stack as well as your engines from 2.3.2. Make backups if you need them later. This will make 2.4 work on your Mac with all the development tools of 2.3.2. -Mark Talluto On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 05:22 PM, Mark wrote: > I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there does > not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are in the > ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the > development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?). Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Sound recording beta bug?
Hi everyone. I am currently playing around with the 2.4 beta, and have a couple of questions regarding sound recording and unusual behaviour. I have been using Tuvias "recordsound" example stack to record sounds with several settings (including the default settings), but when I play back the sounds using the QuickTime Player or Windows Media Player (for the formats it can play), the sound is played back at what seems roughly half speed. Using the command to play back the recorded sound from within MetaCard is even worse - harsh squeels are emitted from the speaker. Has anyone else had this sort of behaviour from the beta, and can anyone suggest a work around? eg., an external equivalent with some example 'how to use this' code? (Macintosh or Windows). I am really wanting to test this all on a Macintosh too, but there does not seem to be a Macintosh beta version - only the engines are in the ftp.metacard.com :2.4 :macos.sit file for some reason, not the development environment (am I looking in the wrong place?). Thanks, Mark -- MCS, PO Box 259, Dunedin, New Zealand Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
recording sound
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: re: Sound recording? >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:42:11 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>I have seen a couple of posts that mention recording sounds in MC 2.4 >>beta, but on the MC FTP site though only parts of the 2.4 beta seem >>available. > >>I assume I cannot use these with the 2.3x environment because when I >>try MC complains about the format of the command. > >>eg., I try "record sound x" and get errors about missing "(", bad >>form, missing ",", bad parameters etc etc. > >>So, where can the 2.4 development environment be downloaded from? >ftp://www.metacard.com/MetaCard/2.4 I downloaded it (again), and on the PC side I get mc.exe, mctools.mc and a readme file, and everything sort of seems right, but on the mac side I just get the engines (I presume) MetaCardcarbon, MetaCard PPC, and the mstools.mc and readme file. Is the development environment for Mac side omitted by accident or design? I'm really wanting to have a play with the Mac side this weekend if I can. > >I've also seen references to a recordsound.mc stack written by Tuviah >>- is this open source? >Actually it's just simple demo stacks, which I posted so people can see >the syntax to various new features in the 2.4 release, and most >importantly report any bugs that they find to MetaCard Corp so they can >be fixed while in beta. I'll probably trash it after 2.4 goes to final >release..or move it somewhere else (AOL FTP space is limited). > >ftp://members.aol.com/tuvsnyder/mcdemos/ > >Tuviah At first I couldn't get the stack to work. I was a bit lost until I tried "record sound x" in the message box and got back a "Quicktime couldn't initialise" or similar error, which tells me I have to install quick time for Windows first :-) I'll do that this weekend, and if I'm lucky enough to get the Mac side working, I'm sure I'll have fun this weekend :-). Thanks for your help (and the stack), Mark -- MCS, PO Box 259, Dunedin, New Zealand Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
re: Sound recording?
>I have seen a couple of posts that mention recording sounds in MC 2.4 >beta, but on the MC FTP site though only parts of the 2.4 beta seem >available. >I assume I cannot use these with the 2.3x environment because when I >try MC complains about the format of the command. >eg., I try "record sound x" and get errors about missing "(", bad >form, missing ",", bad parameters etc etc. >So, where can the 2.4 development environment be downloaded from? ftp://www.metacard.com/MetaCard/2.4 >I've also seen references to a recordsound.mc stack written by Tuviah >- is this open source? Actually it's just simple demo stacks, which I posted so people can see the syntax to various new features in the 2.4 release, and most importantly report any bugs that they find to MetaCard Corp so they can be fixed while in beta. I'll probably trash it after 2.4 goes to final release..or move it somewhere else (AOL FTP space is limited). ftp://members.aol.com/tuvsnyder/mcdemos/ Tuviah Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Sound recording?
Hi. I have seen a couple of posts that mention recording sounds in MC 2.4 beta, but on the MC FTP site though only parts of the 2.4 beta seem available. I assume I cannot use these with the 2.3x environment because when I try MC complains about the format of the command. eg., I try "record sound x" and get errors about missing "(", bad form, missing ",", bad parameters etc etc. So, where can the 2.4 development environment be downloaded from? I've also seen references to a recordsound.mc stack written by Tuviah - is this open source? And if so, can anyone email/post the URL to this? I thought it might be under contributors at http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/, but no such luck :-( Cheers, Mark -- MCS, PO Box 259, Dunedin, New Zealand Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Record Sound
Similar question - any way to use QuickTime to save/convert formats? I have done this using the QuickTime externals that came with certain versions of HyperCard, do these work in Metacard? Anyone? > From: Vikram Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Record Sound > > > The record sound command seems to record at 44 KHz. For internet > applications, maybe 11 KHz is suitable (to conserve space). Can we have an > 'average' and 'poor' option that gives options of 11 and 22 KHz recordings. > > Ideally, like qteffects, maybe there can be a 'recordoptions' which gives > the recording options supported. One can then choose from that list. > > Regards > > Vikram > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Record Sound
The record sound command seems to record at 44 KHz. For internet applications, maybe 11 KHz is suitable (to conserve space). Can we have an 'average' and 'poor' option that gives options of 11 and 22 KHz recordings. Ideally, like qteffects, maybe there can be a 'recordoptions' which gives the recording options supported. One can then choose from that list. Regards Vikram ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Distorted QT sound playback
Recently, Hugh Senior wrote: > Playing sound or movies in QT from a CDROM can cause playback 'stuttering', > as if the system has to wait for the CDROM to catch up. Playing any multimedia from a CD can be problematic (burn speed has nothing to do with it since this simply refers to the rate at which your writer can add data to the CD). Keep in mind that if any portion of your stack/s has to hit the CD for data while media is playing, the head needs to jump back and forth between the media and your stack, potentially causing stutter. This may not be what is happening in your case but it is a good possibility. As far as I can tell, there is no reliable way around a disc access problem. Theoretically, if the entire contents of your stack can be read into memory, then playback should be stutter free since the disc player only needs access media from the disc. Fortunately, (my understanding is) Metacard's architecture inherently loads entire stacks into memory so any disc hits for stack data should be minimal (Scott Raney, correct me if I'm wrong). I ran into a problem similar to the above with a mixed mode disc (Red Book audio and data). I built an MC stack that was supposed to show a looping slideshow while acting as a player for the audio. Problem was, the slideshow was a multi-megabyte QuickTime movie stored on disc, and the CD player couldn't play audio and read QT data fast enough to prevent the audio from stuttering (or stopping completely). The solution was to dumb down the slideshow (no transitions) and place the slide images into the MC stack, so that all the data in the presentation would load into RAM, thus freeing the CD player to read the audio portion of the disc only. Hope this is somewhat useful. Regards, Scott __ Scott RossiTactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Distorted QT sound playback
Apologies. I recently reported poor sound reproduction using QT. The problem has been located to an incorrect playback device setting in the MultiMedia properties control panel. However... Playing sound or movies in QT from a CDROM can cause playback 'stuttering', as if the system has to wait for the CDROM to catch up. Does the original burn speed (x4) have anything to do with this? /H Hugh Senior The Flexible Learning Company Consultant Programming & Software Solutions Fax/Voice: +44 (0)1483.27 87 27 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.flexibleLearning.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Distorted QT sound playback
Apart from suggesting users obtain the most up-to-date drivers, is there any specific, positive advice we can offer users for whose sound played by QuickTime (as midi, wave or movie soundtrack) is distorted or non-existant on win32 computers? Is there a list of 'good' or 'to be avoided' sound cards? Are there any settings which can be suggested? Anyone? Scott? /H Hugh Senior The Flexible Learning Company Consultant Programming & Software Solutions Fax/Voice: +44 (0)1483.27 87 27 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.flexibleLearning.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Stopping Sound on Close Stack
I'm trying to make sure that any currently playing sound is immediately terminated if a user clicks on a standalone app's close button under Windows NT. I have put handlers for "CloseStackRequest" and "CloseStack", both of which do "play stop". However, some of the time it works and other times it doesn't! It seems to be more likely to fail when my app is running as a standalone rather than as a stack with the MC engine running as a Player. This is with MC2.3.2b4 by the way. Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)870 052 7576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.