Re: OK, now I've REALLY, REALLY seen it all

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 26 Mar 2010 at 21:02, Richard Stovall  wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/ycg23z7

FWIW, out of respect for my readers I _*always*_ post tinyurl links with 
preview.tinyurl.com as too many spammers use shortened links to direct people 
places they shouldn't be going. If I were to click that link, I'd actually copy 
it and change it to use the preview page first.  

It's one reason I use tinyurl over is.gd and other link-shorteners.  While 
is.gd also supports a preview option, the option is enabled by appending "-" to 
the link.  That this is a safe preview link isn't obvious to non-techies the 
way preview.tinyurl.com is.

IMHO, YMMV.  Happy Friday, POETS! [*]

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Re: OK, now I've REALLY, REALLY seen it all

[Richard Stovall]

Oops.  This is SFW, but it did go to the wrong list.  I apologize for the error.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/ycg23z7
>
> It's a WSJ article, so at least there's no skin or ink.
>
> Best quote from the article?  "If that thing back there blows, God
> help us all for miles."
>

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OK, now I've REALLY, REALLY seen it all

[Richard Stovall]

http://tinyurl.com/ycg23z7

It's a WSJ article, so at least there's no skin or ink.

Best quote from the article?  "If that thing back there blows, God
help us all for miles."

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Re: How would you go about this?

[Steven Peck]

That entirely depends on your purpose, business and cost hardware
issues would have.  We go on a three year cycle here.  Do we have
boxes older for various reasons?  Yes, but those are decided on a case
by case basis.

Support.  How important to the business is it?  If it's important,
then it gets replaced.  Period.  Hardware cost is a small part of the
equation.  Downtime, loss of business, potential loss of access to the
data and how much that would cost the business, etc.

Tactical.  Is their new hardware technology coming out soon from our
HW vendor?  If yes, we may delay new hardware (new HP series later
this year?) so that we will get the benefit of the new technologies
sooner.

If you can stretch your budget and risk on hardware for 5 years and
all the associated OS and associated application updates associated
with it, then that's is perfectly alright.  But if you business would
have a negative cost then there is nothing wrong with updating in a
timely manner.

We have much older systems out there.  We find them irritating and
darn near impossible to get sign off on upgrading them 'because it's
working fine' when no, not really, it strains the support people more
when things go wrong on them.

Again, this is all down to your business requirements, not 'replacing
hardware sooner then 5 years is just wrong'.

Steven Peck


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Terry Dickson
 wrote:
> I pretty much agree, we replace after three years, then we have always
> re-tasked the systems and used them for other projects for at least 5
> years.  We have some that are whitebox products that are over 7 years and
> still running.  If we do not have a production use for them we move them
> into a test network and still utilize them there.
>
>
>
> From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:05 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>
>
>
> I don’t understand this mentality. I would expect to get 3 years from some
> white box generic desktop built with on-sale, B-grade components. With all
> the discussions on the list lately for getting matching brand hard drives,
> integrated management and other things than imply quality of build, this is
> (IIRC) the second comment I’ve read in the last few months where someone has
> difficulty with the concept of tech making it 5 years. If you’re buying
> factory gear from hard drive to power cord you’re paying premium top dollar.
> That money should mean something besides just the service contract. Specific
> performance requirements and current economic conditions aside, if you can’t
> get at least 5 years out of your servers before replacement, then IMO you
> need help.
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
>
>
> From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>
>
>
> You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was just
> looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my
> workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations
> and servers.
>
>
>
> Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why I
> am splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [OT]: Script Editors

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton
 wrote:
> Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred
> editor?

  Notepad++.  ;-)

> ... they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit
> more.

  What are you looking for that you don't have now?

-- Ben

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Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[Robert Cato]

+1

Well articulated arguments for physical DC(s).

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Bodnar
 wrote:
> In regards to having DCs virtualized. We have 15 DCs and only 2 of them are 
> physical (PDCe and another GC). When we bring down the data center for a 
> recovery exercise or a scheduled power outage, we need to have AD come up 
> first since other things are authenticating against it. This makes it much 
> quicker then waiting for the VMWare environment to come online. Another 
> benefit is that if there is an issue with the back end storage where the 
> VMWare LUNS reside, we have something to authenticate against until it comes 
> back.
>
> YMMV
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re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[Christopher Bodnar]

In regards to having DCs virtualized. We have 15 DCs and only 2 of them are 
physical (PDCe and another GC). When we bring down the data center for a 
recovery exercise or a scheduled power outage, we need to have AD come up first 
since other things are authenticating against it. This makes it much quicker 
then waiting for the VMWare environment to come online. Another benefit is that 
if there is an issue with the back end storage where the VMWare LUNS reside, we 
have something to authenticate against until it comes back. 

YMMV
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Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[jgarciaitlist]

Rim sells wifi only enterpise bbs but not sure about bess support
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: "N Parr" 
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:24:45 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Only thing I can't figure out is if I need a SIM in the phone or not.
Some people say they weren't able to activate it without a SIM, but once
it was activated the SIM could be removed. 

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

can any blackberry wifi even with 3g or cdma or edge, that includes
wifi, be used with just wifi and no cellphone plan?

I think so, right.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, N Parr wrote:

> Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager.  My

> BES is a VM.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> Or active via desktop manger
> Right??
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Cook 
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the 
> server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the
day.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: N Parr 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
> Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play 
> with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get 
> "misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to

> be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools 
> that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.
>
> For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange

> --Original Message--
> From: N Parr
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
> Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM
>
> I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
> Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting 
> something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on
my BES.
> Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an 
> ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because

> of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.
>
> Thanks
> Niles
>
>
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RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[N Parr]

Only thing I can't figure out is if I need a SIM in the phone or not.
Some people say they weren't able to activate it without a SIM, but once
it was activated the SIM could be removed. 

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

can any blackberry wifi even with 3g or cdma or edge, that includes
wifi, be used with just wifi and no cellphone plan?

I think so, right.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, N Parr wrote:

> Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager.  My

> BES is a VM.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> Or active via desktop manger
> Right??
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Cook 
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the 
> server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the
day.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: N Parr 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
> Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play 
> with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get 
> "misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to

> be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
>
> What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools 
> that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.
>
> For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange

> --Original Message--
> From: N Parr
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
> Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM
>
> I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
> Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting 
> something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on
my BES.
> Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an 
> ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because

> of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.
>
> Thanks
> Niles
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>   ~
>
>
>
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Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[Sean Martin]

Think about it from a recoverability stand-point. Pretty good read:

http://www.petri.co.il/domain-controller-virtualization-options.htm

Original Blog by Ben Armstrong...includes questions/answers in the comments
section:

http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2008/11/24/the-domain-controller-dilemma.aspx

- Sean

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> I would be looking at maybe one virtual in each of the outer offices and
> one in the main office with leaving all of your physicals in place until
> they were dying or were no longer supportable.   Putting them on the SAN for
> backup purposes is a very good idea.
>
> Jon
>
>   On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
>>  We’re a relatively small organization (3 sites, all within 30 minutes
>> driving distance, connected by a VPN) and currently have 2 physical DCs. My
>> only concern about having all virtual DCs is that I’m not sure I’d be
>> comfortable with that. I don’t know enough about virtual machines to be
>> comfortable with all my eggs in one basket. J
>>
>>
>>
>> I certainly wouldn’t object to having 1 or 2 virtual DCs and let them
>> reside on the SAN.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 1:30 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
>>
>>
>>
>> Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you
>> intend to do at the time?  I know that the last place I worked we skipped
>> the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not
>> want to keep a lot of hardware around.  Space for them was at a premium both
>> in the racks and on the floor.  The only reason for the last DC to remain
>> physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved
>> that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the
>> networking was done.  If things were different there would have been no
>> phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich <
>> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>>
>> I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year
>> or two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we
>> want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to
>> upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and
>> just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema
>> or what?
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they
>> mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to
>> virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to
>> virtualize one DC and have one physical DC?
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]

can any blackberry wifi even with 3g or cdma or edge, that includes wifi, 
be used with just wifi and no cellphone plan?


I think so, right.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, N Parr wrote:


Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager.  My
BES is a VM.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Or active via desktop manger
Right??
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: John Cook 
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server
for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day.

- Original Message -
From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[John Cook]

As is mine which is why I specified.

- Original Message -
From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:17:47 2010
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager.  My
BES is a VM.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Or active via desktop manger
Right??
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: John Cook 
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server
for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day.

- Original Message -
From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[N Parr]

Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager.  My
BES is a VM.   

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Or active via desktop manger
Right??
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: John Cook 
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server
for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day.

- Original Message -
From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[John Cook]

That too would work

- Original Message -
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:15:23 2010
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Or active via desktop manger
Right??
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: John Cook 
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for 
activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day.

- Original Message -
From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[jgarciaitlist]

Or active via desktop manger
Right??
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: John Cook 
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for 
activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day.

- Original Message -
From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[jgarciaitlist]

True
That true and with bess it would be easy
Also wonder if you can get a pin and bbm??
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 3:06 PM

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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  ~



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  ~

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Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[John Cook]

If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for 
activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day.

- Original Message -
From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010
Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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  ~



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Re: [OT]: Script Editors

[Kurt Buff]

Vim

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:03, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> 
>
> VI
>
> 
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: [OT]: Script Editors
>
> Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor?
>
> I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, 
> they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more.
>
> Going to take a look at these
>
> AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/
>
> PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript
>
> They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional 
> approval for the cost.
>
> Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.
>
> Regards
>
> Tony Patton
> Desktop Operations Cavan
> Ext 8078
> Direct Dial 049 435 2878
> email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
> 
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RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[N Parr]

Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play
with to much.  Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get
"misplaced" to easily.  I've done some googling and there does seem to
be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right.

-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that
are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[jgarciaitlist]

What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are 
free and can lock down the itouch and setup email.

For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange
--Original Message--
From: N Parr
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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Re: printer redirection woes

[Bill Humphries]

No, it is definitely the 64 bit driver.

Yesterday, it looked like I couldn't get much info like driver location 
from the printer properties.  i assumed that was becuase the driver is 
included with Win7.  I can relook again when I get access to the machine.



Bill

James Hill wrote:

It really does sound like the driver is 32bit when you have selected to import 
a 64bit or vice versa.

Sometimes when a driver won't import on the server you can upload it from a 
client.

So log on to the client and then browse to printers and faxes on the terminal 
server.  Then select File -> Server Properties.  Select the Drivers tab and 
click on Add etc.

I have the universal driver on my 2008 servers but don't have any 03's to test 
it on.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 8:15 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: printer redirection woes

Oops, I somehow deleted that info out of my original post.  It's a 2003 
32 bit terminal server.



James Hill wrote:
  

What version of terminal server?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 5:50 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: printer redirection woes

Hi all,

We have a client a terminal server.  They have a laserjet 1320 USB 
printer that printer redirection works fine on old XP laptop.  The user 
now has a Win7 x64 laptop and of course they cannot now print. 

It looks like the driver for that printer is built into Win7. On HP's 
website, the only driver available for this under Win7 x64 is their HP 
Universal Driver.  Just for kicks, I went to the sharing tab on the TS 
printer and tried to upload any of the Universal Driver inf files as an 
additional driver for x64.  It errors and says that a driver can't be 
found for the requested processor architecture.


Am I screwed here?  Anyone know of a way to get this printer to work here?

Thanks.

Bill

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RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Excellent !!

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

ASF:
> * FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory
> C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ 
> on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network.  Submitted them to 
> Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud.  No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM 
> Florida time when I submitted them.

On 26 Mar 2010 at 12:14, Stu Sjouwerman  wrote:

> Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come
> up.
> 
> You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d.

Thanks, Stu.  I already had, I think via the web form, and he got back to me 
this morning confirming their FP-ness.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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Re: [OT]: Script Editors

[Christopher Bodnar]

I have both, but use ASE more than PrimalScript on a daily basis. The main 
things I like about ASE are the ScriptForm Designer and the WMI Wizard. 
Both are great tools.

YMMV



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:   tony patton 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   03/26/2010 01:56 PM
Subject:[OT]: Script Editors



Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred 
editor?

I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly 
VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit 
more.

Going to take a look at these

AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/

PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript

They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional 

approval for the cost.

Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

http://www.quinn-insurance.com

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Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?

[N Parr]

I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email.
Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something
like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES.
Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go.  Could use an
ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because
of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc.

Thanks
Niles


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RE: [OT]: Script Editors

[Jim Slattery]

vi



Sorry, just being an a$$. :)

Now on topic:
I just downloaded this:
http://powergui.org/index.jspa

...while I wait for my boss to approve purchasing either PrimalScript or
Powershell Plus
(http://www.idera.com/Products/PowerShell/PowerShell-Plus/)



-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT]: Script Editors



VI



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT]: Script Editors

Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred
editor?

I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly
VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit
more.

Going to take a look at these

AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/

PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript

They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got
provisional approval for the cost.

Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

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Re: [OT]: Script Editors

[Steven Peck]

I have PrimalScript, I still use notepad++ a lot.  I also primarily
use PowerShell.

If you want a cross language one then PrimalScript is pretty good (I
think you can use it 30 days for free too).  If just PowerShell only
then PowerShellPlus is awesome.

So a better question is, what is driving you to look for a better script tool?

Steven


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Mayo, Bill  wrote:
> PrimalScript is pretty sweet.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: [OT]: Script Editors
>
> Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred
> editor?
>
> I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly
> VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit
> more.
>
> Going to take a look at these
>
> AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/
>
> PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript
>
> They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got
> provisional approval for the cost.
>
> Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.
>
> Regards
>
> Tony Patton
> Desktop Operations Cavan
> Ext 8078
> Direct Dial 049 435 2878
> email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
> 
> http://www.quinn-insurance.com
>
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RE: [OT]: Script Editors

[Mayo, Bill]

PrimalScript is pretty sweet. 

-Original Message-
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT]: Script Editors

Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred
editor?

I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly
VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit
more.

Going to take a look at these

AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/

PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript

They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got
provisional approval for the cost.

Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

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[OT - it's Friday!] RE: : Script Editors

[Michael B. Smith]

Ttthhht

:-)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: : Script Editors

On 26 Mar 2010 at 17:03, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

> 
> 
> VI
> 
> 


What is "VI"?  I've used "vi", use it extensively on my Linux systems.


I still use qedit in DOS boxes a lot -- I'm going to miss it when I move to 
Win7/64.  I use metapad a lot for quick edits, notepad++ when I have a lot to 
do.


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[Jon Harris]

I would be looking at maybe one virtual in each of the outer offices and one
in the main office with leaving all of your physicals in place until they
were dying or were no longer supportable.   Putting them on the SAN for
backup purposes is a very good idea.

Jon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Aldrich
wrote:

>  We’re a relatively small organization (3 sites, all within 30 minutes
> driving distance, connected by a VPN) and currently have 2 physical DCs. My
> only concern about having all virtual DCs is that I’m not sure I’d be
> comfortable with that. I don’t know enough about virtual machines to be
> comfortable with all my eggs in one basket. J
>
>
>
> I certainly wouldn’t object to having 1 or 2 virtual DCs and let them
> reside on the SAN.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 1:30 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
>
>
>
> Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you
> intend to do at the time?  I know that the last place I worked we skipped
> the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not
> want to keep a lot of hardware around.  Space for them was at a premium both
> in the racks and on the floor.  The only reason for the last DC to remain
> physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved
> that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the
> networking was done.  If things were different there would have been no
> phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
> I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year or
> two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want
> to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade
> today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add
> the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what?
>
>
>
> Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they
> mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to
> virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to
> virtualize one DC and have one physical DC?
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: How would you go about this?

[Terry Dickson]

I pretty much agree, we replace after three years, then we have always 
re-tasked the systems and used them for other projects for at least 5 years.  
We have some that are whitebox products that are over 7 years and still 
running.  If we do not have a production use for them we move them into a test 
network and still utilize them there.

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

I don't understand this mentality. I would expect to get 3 years from some 
white box generic desktop built with on-sale, B-grade components. With all the 
discussions on the list lately for getting matching brand hard drives, 
integrated management and other things than imply quality of build, this is 
(IIRC) the second comment I've read in the last few months where someone has 
difficulty with the concept of tech making it 5 years. If you're buying factory 
gear from hard drive to power cord you're paying premium top dollar. That money 
should mean something besides just the service contract. Specific performance 
requirements and current economic conditions aside, if you can't get at least 5 
years out of your servers before replacement, then IMO you need help.

--
Mike Gill

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was just 
looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my 
workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations 
and servers.

Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why I am 
splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help...







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~   ~

Re: How would you go about this?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 26 Mar 2010 at 10:05, Mike Gill  wrote:

> if you can´t get at least 5 years out of your servers before replacement,
> then IMO you need help. -- Mike Gill 

FWIW I'm about to write a memo to a client telling them we need to replace 
their Windows 2000 Server box, which I put in sometime in 2004.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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~   ~

Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

ASF:
> * FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory
> C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ 
> on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network.  Submitted them to 
> Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud.  No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM 
> Florida time when I submitted them.

On 26 Mar 2010 at 12:14, Stu Sjouwerman  wrote:

> Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come
> up.
> 
> You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d.

Thanks, Stu.  I already had, I think via the web form, and he got back to me 
this morning confirming their FP-ness.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: : Script Editors

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 26 Mar 2010 at 17:03, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

> 
> 
> VI
> 
> 


What is "VI"?  I've used "vi", use it extensively on my Linux systems.


I still use qedit in DOS boxes a lot -- I'm going to miss it when I move to 
Win7/64.  I use metapad a lot for quick edits, notepad++ when I have a lot to 
do.


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[John Aldrich]

We're a relatively small organization (3 sites, all within 30 minutes
driving distance, connected by a VPN) and currently have 2 physical DCs. My
only concern about having all virtual DCs is that I'm not sure I'd be
comfortable with that. I don't know enough about virtual machines to be
comfortable with all my eggs in one basket. J

 

I certainly wouldn't object to having 1 or 2 virtual DCs and let them reside
on the SAN. 

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

 

Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you
intend to do at the time?  I know that the last place I worked we skipped
the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not
want to keep a lot of hardware around.  Space for them was at a premium both
in the racks and on the floor.  The only reason for the last DC to remain
physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved
that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the
networking was done.  If things were different there would have been no
phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes.

 

Jon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich 
wrote:

I'm not in a position to do it now, but I'm trying to think ahead a year or
two and wondering how hard it's going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want
to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade
today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add
the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what?

 

Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they
mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to
virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to
virtualize one DC and have one physical DC?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~   ~<><>

Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[Jon Harris]

Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you
intend to do at the time?  I know that the last place I worked we skipped
the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not
want to keep a lot of hardware around.  Space for them was at a premium both
in the racks and on the floor.  The only reason for the last DC to remain
physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved
that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the
networking was done.  If things were different there would have been no
phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes.

Jon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich
wrote:

>  I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year
> or two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we
> want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to
> upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and
> just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema
> or what?
>
>
>
> Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they
> mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to
> virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to
> virtualize one DC and have one physical DC?
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[Steve Ens]

That's how I'm approaching things.  One physical, one maybe two virtual
DC's.  No need to upgrade the 2003 boxes, just let them go when it's their
time!

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, John Aldrich  wrote:

>  I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year
> or two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we
> want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to
> upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and
> just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema
> or what?
>
>
>
> Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they
> mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to
> virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to
> virtualize one DC and have one physical DC?
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: [OT]: Script Editors

[tony patton]

Haven't progressed to PS yet, unfortunately.
Hopefully I'll get around to it this year, time permitting.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"John Allhiser" 
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:
26/03/2010 17:17
Subject:
RE: [OT]: Script Editors



+1 for Primal.  They also have free specialty editors.
 
Have you tried the built-in Powershell ISE for ps1 scripts? 
 
Context is a context aware tabbed notepad, and free.
http://www.contexteditor.org/-- I use this one the most.
 
 
 
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT]: Script Editors
 
I played with Primal Script a few years back soley for Kixtart scripting, 
but I really liked it.  This was 2004-2005 timeframe, I hope it only got 
better and didn't inherit any new version quirks
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton <
tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com> wrote:
Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred
editor?

I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly
VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit
more.

Going to take a look at these

AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/

PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript

They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional
approval for the cost.

Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

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Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)

[John Aldrich]

I'm not in a position to do it now, but I'm trying to think ahead a year or
two and wondering how hard it's going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want
to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade
today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add
the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what?

 

Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they
mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to
virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to
virtualize one DC and have one physical DC?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 


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~   ~<><>

Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)

[Jon Harris]

They still took a major PR hit and anytime this type of thing happens to
them again it makes it easier for the lawyers to get damages out of the
company which will have an adverse effect on earnings which will hurt
management in the pocket.  BUT it still should never have happened with the
relative ease that it was done.

Jon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> How about this:
>
>  Prosecutors estimate the group stole tens of millions of debit and credit
>> card numbers, costing corporations and banks millions when they were forced
>> to cancel accounts, open new accounts, monitor accounts for fraud, *beef
>> up their network security* and invest in public relations to ensure they
>> wouldn't lose customers. Authorities found more than 40 million distinct
>> card numbers on two of Gonzalez's computer servers.
>
>
> Um They needed to do that in the first place, so they wouldn't have to
> make the other expenditures...
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
>
>
>  On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
>>  How about the businesses who let this happen?
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>> > Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion.
>> What
>> > about the federal people that were working with this guy.  They get to
>> skate
>> > with nothing bad to them?  They knew he was a hacker and were not
>> watching
>> > what he was doing?  Something is not right there as well.
>> >
>> > Jon
>> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <
>> saber...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hacker gets harsh sentence:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sherry Abercrombie
>> >>
>> >> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> >> Arthur C. Clarke
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)

[Jon Harris]

I would have liked to seen the top management of them prosecuted as well but
I am realistic enough to know that is not going to happen.

Jon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

>  How about the businesses who let this happen?
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
> > Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion.  What
> > about the federal people that were working with this guy.  They get to
> skate
> > with nothing bad to them?  They knew he was a hacker and were not
> watching
> > what he was doing?  Something is not right there as well.
> >
> > Jon
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hacker gets harsh sentence:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sherry Abercrombie
> >>
> >> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> >> Arthur C. Clarke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: [OT]: Script Editors

[John Allhiser]

+1 for Primal.  They also have free specialty editors.

 

Have you tried the built-in Powershell ISE for ps1 scripts?   

 

Context is a context aware tabbed notepad, and free.

http://www.contexteditor.org/-- I use this one the most.

 

 

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT]: Script Editors

 

I played with Primal Script a few years back soley for Kixtart
scripting, but I really liked it.  This was 2004-2005 timeframe, I hope
it only got better and didn't inherit any new version quirks

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton
 wrote:

Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred
editor?

I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly
VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit
more.

Going to take a look at these

AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/

PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript

They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got
provisional
approval for the cost.

Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: [OT]: Script Editors

[Erik Goldoff]

I played with Primal Script a few years back soley for Kixtart scripting,
but I really liked it.  This was 2004-2005 timeframe, I hope it only got
better and didn't inherit any new version quirks

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton <
tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com> wrote:

> Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred
> editor?
>
> I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly
> VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit
> more.
>
> Going to take a look at these
>
> AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/
>
> PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript
>
> They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional
> approval for the cost.
>
> Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.
>
> Regards
>
> Tony Patton
> Desktop Operations Cavan
> Ext 8078
> Direct Dial 049 435 2878
> email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
> 
> http://www.quinn-insurance.com
>
> This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents
> should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or
> opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and
> do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise
> specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure,
> QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor
> responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the
> original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and
> outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before
> opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained
> as a result of any software viruses.
>
> 
>
> QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator.
> QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and
> regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK
> business.
>
> 
>
> QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number
> 292374 and is a private company limited by shares.
> QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number
> 240768 and is a private company limited by shares.
> Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: slightly OT : Netscreen 5GT config in Juniper SSG5 ???

[Harry Singh]

I haven't had much luck with that. I'm sure it can be a pain if you have 100
tunnels, but if it's a relatively small amount then you're probably better
off doing the config from scratch.



On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:

> just had a call from a customer, their netscreen 5gt seems damaged, it
> keeps resetting even though power light stays on ( external power supply
> seems OK ) so the question posed to me was :
>
> Can the the newer Juniper SSG 5 just load the Netscreen 5GT config file and
> work ( including site-to-site VPN tunnels ) or will it have to be redone
> from scratch ?
>
> So, does anyone on this list have experience or knowledge of this you can
> share ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Erik Goldoff
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: How would you go about this?

[Mike Gill]

I don't understand this mentality. I would expect to get 3 years from some
white box generic desktop built with on-sale, B-grade components. With all
the discussions on the list lately for getting matching brand hard drives,
integrated management and other things than imply quality of build, this is
(IIRC) the second comment I've read in the last few months where someone has
difficulty with the concept of tech making it 5 years. If you're buying
factory gear from hard drive to power cord you're paying premium top dollar.
That money should mean something besides just the service contract. Specific
performance requirements and current economic conditions aside, if you can't
get at least 5 years out of your servers before replacement, then IMO you
need help.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

 

You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was just
looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my
workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations
and servers.

 

Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why I
am splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help.

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

[Steve Ens]

No, since there a couple of snapshots...I'm merging them into the parent
disk first.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Have you tried to import it?
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
>> So I have a good snapshot, is there a way to restore that?  Note - the
>> snapshot doesn't show up in the HV Manager.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, James Rankin wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment.
>>> A lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all
>>> sorts of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh
>>> from R2 rather than upgrade existing R1 systems.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens  wrote:
>>>
 No AV scanning that box.  I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040.

 Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine
 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650)
 That takes me to this link
 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspx

 Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was
 being attempted, including:

1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and
all image files
2. prior error messages in the event log
3. available RAM on the system
4. configuration settings
5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard
disks

 All of these should've been OK.  Just doing a straight upgrade.

   On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. <
 mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:

>  Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server?
> That’s the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off
> guests like that.  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804.
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
>
>
>
> Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine.  Went
> through the upgrade and let it run.  At home now, thinking the upgrade
> should be finished.  Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is
> nowhere to be seen.  I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that
> doesn't show up in the console.  The backup files do seem to be there, but
> what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead?  I've done
> these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues.  ANy
> ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
>>> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
>>> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
>>> a question."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

slightly OT : Netscreen 5GT config in Juniper SSG5 ???

[Erik Goldoff]

just had a call from a customer, their netscreen 5gt seems damaged, it keeps
resetting even though power light stays on ( external power supply seems OK
) so the question posed to me was :

Can the the newer Juniper SSG 5 just load the Netscreen 5GT config file and
work ( including site-to-site VPN tunnels ) or will it have to be redone
from scratch ?

So, does anyone on this list have experience or knowledge of this you can
share ?

Thanks in advance

Erik Goldoff

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

[Andrew S. Baker]

Have you tried to import it?

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> So I have a good snapshot, is there a way to restore that?  Note - the
> snapshot doesn't show up in the HV Manager.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, James Rankin wrote:
>
>> I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment.
>> A lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all
>> sorts of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh
>> from R2 rather than upgrade existing R1 systems.
>>
>>
>> On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens  wrote:
>>
>>> No AV scanning that box.  I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040.
>>>
>>> Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine
>>> 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650)
>>> That takes me to this link
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspx
>>>
>>> Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was
>>> being attempted, including:
>>>
>>>1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and
>>>all image files
>>>2. prior error messages in the event log
>>>3. available RAM on the system
>>>4. configuration settings
>>>5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard
>>>disks
>>>
>>> All of these should've been OK.  Just doing a straight upgrade.
>>>
>>>   On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. <
>>> mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:
>>>
  Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server?  That’s
 the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests 
 like
 that.  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804.



 -Bonnie



 *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2



 Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine.  Went
 through the upgrade and let it run.  At home now, thinking the upgrade
 should be finished.  Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is
 nowhere to be seen.  I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that
 doesn't show up in the console.  The backup files do seem to be there, but
 what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead?  I've done
 these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues.  ANy
 ideas?










>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
>> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
>> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
>> a question."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)

[Andrew S. Baker]

How about this:

Prosecutors estimate the group stole tens of millions of debit and credit
> card numbers, costing corporations and banks millions when they were forced
> to cancel accounts, open new accounts, monitor accounts for fraud, *beef
> up their network security* and invest in public relations to ensure they
> wouldn't lose customers. Authorities found more than 40 million distinct
> card numbers on two of Gonzalez's computer servers.


Um They needed to do that in the first place, so they wouldn't have to
make the other expenditures...

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

>  How about the businesses who let this happen?
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
> > Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion.  What
> > about the federal people that were working with this guy.  They get to
> skate
> > with nothing bad to them?  They knew he was a hacker and were not
> watching
> > what he was doing?  Something is not right there as well.
> >
> > Jon
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hacker gets harsh sentence:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sherry Abercrombie
> >>
> >> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> >> Arthur C. Clarke
> >>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: [OT]: Script Editors

[Michael B. Smith]

VI



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT]: Script Editors

Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor?

I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, 
they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more.

Going to take a look at these

AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/

PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript

They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional 
approval for the cost.

Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

http://www.quinn-insurance.com

This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should 
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of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet 
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QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number
240768 and is a private company limited by shares.
Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

[OT]: Script Editors

[tony patton]

Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred 
editor?

I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly 
VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit 
more.

Going to take a look at these

AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/

PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript

They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional 
approval for the cost.

Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com

http://www.quinn-insurance.com

This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents
should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or
opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and
do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise
specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure,
QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor
responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the
original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and
outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before
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QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator.
QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and
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QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number
292374 and is a private company limited by shares.
QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number
240768 and is a private company limited by shares.
Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Darn spelling correction!  :-)   "is tasked with" 

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  


-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Joe Frederick
Subject: RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come up.

You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

On 25 Mar 2010 at 22:57, Burian, Matthew J. (mjb)  wrote:

> That one file you saw in the recycle bin sounds very similar in name
> to the Microsoft Antimalware process of "MsMpEng.exe" used in OneCare
> and now used in Security Essentials. (Also may be used with Windows
> Defender??)
> 
> Just an interesting, though probably unrelated similarity in file naming.

Probably an intentional mis-naming by the malware.  Actually it turned out to 
be a true nasty trojan, not an FP (although I had those today also*).  Info 
pages here:

W32/IRCbot.gen.aj
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_252087.htm

W32/Rimecud
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_237984.htm

My infections had the filename of the first of those but the exact file-
location and registry-keys of the second.  VIPRE identified them as 
"Worm.Win32.Rimecud" [where DO they get these names???] and the VIPRE info page 
(doesn't say anything useful, unfortunately) is here:
http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/ThreatDisplay.aspx?name=Worm.Win32.Rimecud&tid=4268277&cs=50289929C7DB40A0D03710195D3B1B1C
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydtnjw6

I had three machines where the VIPRE "Deep Scan" found this.  I need to make 
sure I get Deep Scans on the rest of the network RSN as this spreads via 
network shares among other methods.

Angus

* FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ 
on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network.  Submitted them to 
Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud.  No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM 
Florida time when I submitted them.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

..
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)

[Ben Scott]

  How about the businesses who let this happen?

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:
> Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion.  What
> about the federal people that were working with this guy.  They get to skate
> with nothing bad to them?  They knew he was a hacker and were not watching
> what he was doing?  Something is not right there as well.
>
> Jon
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hacker gets harsh sentence:
>>
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/
>>
>> --
>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>
>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Forefront Client Security

[Jon Harris]

I've seen it miss some tools that it should have found when they were
dropped onto the machine and not pick them up for a few days.  Not good but
at least no hacks were done or they were blocked if attempted.

Jon

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:47 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:

> I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the
> client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or
> cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, "a smidge complicated." I'd go
> further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at
> all user-friendly.
>
> Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the "SecurityTools"
> malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is
> regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with
> FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft
> modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes
> out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS.
>
> Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single
> one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software
> restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite
> effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to
> security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware
> regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get
> infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup
> took about 30 seconds.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security
>
> I use it.
>
> Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.
>
> It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
> I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
> like that. It just runs, properly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Forefront Client Security
>
> Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
>
> I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use,
> and deploy to clients, etc?
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
> NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications
> to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
> public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to
> public disclosure.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)

[Jon Harris]

Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion.  What
about the federal people that were working with this guy.  They get to skate
with nothing bad to them?  They knew he was a hacker and were not watching
what he was doing?  Something is not right there as well.

Jon
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> Hacker gets harsh sentence:
>
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come up.

You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

On 25 Mar 2010 at 22:57, Burian, Matthew J. (mjb)  wrote:

> That one file you saw in the recycle bin sounds very similar in name
> to the Microsoft Antimalware process of "MsMpEng.exe" used in OneCare
> and now used in Security Essentials. (Also may be used with Windows
> Defender??)
> 
> Just an interesting, though probably unrelated similarity in file naming.

Probably an intentional mis-naming by the malware.  Actually it turned out to 
be a true nasty trojan, not an FP (although I had those today also*).  Info 
pages here:

W32/IRCbot.gen.aj
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_252087.htm

W32/Rimecud
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_237984.htm

My infections had the filename of the first of those but the exact file-
location and registry-keys of the second.  VIPRE identified them as 
"Worm.Win32.Rimecud" [where DO they get these names???] and the VIPRE info page 
(doesn't say anything useful, unfortunately) is here:
http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/ThreatDisplay.aspx?name=Worm.Win32.Rimecud&tid=4268277&cs=50289929C7DB40A0D03710195D3B1B1C
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydtnjw6

I had three machines where the VIPRE "Deep Scan" found this.  I need to make 
sure I get Deep Scans on the rest of the network RSN as this spreads via 
network shares among other methods.

Angus

* FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ 
on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network.  Submitted them to 
Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud.  No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM 
Florida time when I submitted them.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

..
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Epic Fail

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 26 Mar 2010 at 8:04, Ben Scott  wrote:

>   I do actually tend to log in to the same Google account in both
> places, but now that you mention it, I can't guarantee that wasn't the
> issue.

I use a number of different Google accounts and have a routine which 
automatically searches every night for certain things.  My search results will 
vary depending on which one is logged in at the time of the search.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Forefront Client Security

[Justin Thomas]

That about sums up our experience. I last heard the long awaited next
version is due out the second half of this year. It's been pushed back a
number of times, as they add requested features. I'm hoping that means
improved reporting, and more granular control from the console.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:

> I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the
> client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or
> cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, "a smidge complicated." I'd go
> further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at
> all user-friendly.
>
> Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the "SecurityTools"
> malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is
> regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with
> FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft
> modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes
> out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS.
>
> Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single
> one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software
> restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite
> effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to
> security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware
> regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get
> infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup
> took about 30 seconds.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security
>
> I use it.
>
> Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.
>
> It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
> I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
> like that. It just runs, properly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Forefront Client Security
>
> Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
>
> I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use,
> and deploy to clients, etc?
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
> NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications
> to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
> public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to
> public disclosure.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>


-- 
Probable Contrarian

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Equallogic and Sata

[Anders Blomgren]

Our VDI needs are so low that we're not maxing out a single array. We're
just doing business apps. But I still find the read/write ratio is between
50/50 and 20/80 instead of the 80/20 I was expecting. Considering a write on
raid5 generates 4 backend iops means that the difference on an assumed 10
client iops is upwards to 32 - 16 = 16 backend iops per client more than I
had initially counted on. Scale that to 100 clients and you might max out an
array far earlier than you were expecting. Or not, depending on the VDI
technology and desktop usage.

I'm advocating going slow, measure and don't assume that a client doesnt use
any iops.

-Anders

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:41 PM, N Parr  wrote:

>  What kind of ratio are you seeing for clients to array with VDI.  And are
> you doing anything  intensive with your desktops or are they just normal
> business apps?  I really want to use VDI in the future when we can finally
> start doing OS refreshes.
>
>  --
> *From:* Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 12:50 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Equallogic and Sata
>
>   I'll agree with the others and say that SATA works great on the EQ's
> (even though I use the SAS versions nowadays).
>
> You mentioned virtual machines... one thing that will eat up iops like
> nothing else is if you start doing vdi on top of the virtual machines. If
> so, measure carefully with San HQ and move slowly so that you don't max out
> the array.
>
> -Anders
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
>> Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000
>> series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as he
>> is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and such
>> off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My other option is the HP
>> P4000 G2 series.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

[Steve Ens]

So I have a good snapshot, is there a way to restore that?  Note - the
snapshot doesn't show up in the HV Manager.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, James Rankin  wrote:

> I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment. A
> lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all sorts
> of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh from R2
> rather than upgrade existing R1 systems.
>
>
> On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
>> No AV scanning that box.  I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040.
>>
>> Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine
>> 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650)
>> That takes me to this link
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspx
>>
>> Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was
>> being attempted, including:
>>
>>1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and
>>all image files
>>2. prior error messages in the event log
>>3. available RAM on the system
>>4. configuration settings
>>5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks
>>
>> All of these should've been OK.  Just doing a straight upgrade.
>>
>>   On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. <
>> mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>  Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server?  That’s
>>> the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like
>>> that.  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Bonnie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine.  Went
>>> through the upgrade and let it run.  At home now, thinking the upgrade
>>> should be finished.  Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is
>>> nowhere to be seen.  I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that
>>> doesn't show up in the console.  The backup files do seem to be there, but
>>> what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead?  I've done
>>> these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues.  ANy
>>> ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday News (Sorta OT)

[Steven M. Caesare]

Excellent.

 

-sc

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)

 

Hacker gets harsh sentence:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrim
e-sentence-passed/

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

[James Rankin]

I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment. A
lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all sorts
of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh from R2
rather than upgrade existing R1 systems.

On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens  wrote:

> No AV scanning that box.  I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040.
>
> Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine
> 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650)
> That takes me to this link
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspx
>
> Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was
> being attempted, including:
>
>1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and
>all image files
>2. prior error messages in the event log
>3. available RAM on the system
>4. configuration settings
>5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks
>
> All of these should've been OK.  Just doing a straight upgrade.
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. <
> mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server?  That’s
>> the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like
>> that.  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
>>
>>
>>
>> Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine.  Went
>> through the upgrade and let it run.  At home now, thinking the upgrade
>> should be finished.  Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is
>> nowhere to be seen.  I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that
>> doesn't show up in the console.  The backup files do seem to be there, but
>> what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead?  I've done
>> these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues.  ANy
>> ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Hacker gets harsh sentence:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: lenovo laptop help from the list

[Kim Longenbaugh]

I caught the part about "having a clue".  That usually precludes the
boss and his son.  LOL

 



From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lenovo laptop help from the list

 

I missed the part about him being "the bosses son". They can prolly
afford to drop it off somewhere.

 

:-)

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: lenovo laptop help from the list

 

He isn't technical at all, not all that sure it is the fan, definitely
needs to hand it to someone who has a clue.  Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Don Guyer 
wrote:

I've had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no
means a hardware guru. If he's OK with it, have him order the fan and do
it himself. It's gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what's
involved, but don't think it's going to be that difficult.

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list

 

My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out
of warrantee.  He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful
where he takes it.  I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there.
Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there?

 

any help greatly appreciated.

 

Jeff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: lenovo laptop help from the list

[Don Guyer]

I missed the part about him being "the bosses son". They can prolly
afford to drop it off somewhere.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: lenovo laptop help from the list

 

He isn't technical at all, not all that sure it is the fan, definitely
needs to hand it to someone who has a clue.  Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Don Guyer 
wrote:

I've had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no
means a hardware guru. If he's OK with it, have him order the fan and do
it himself. It's gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what's
involved, but don't think it's going to be that difficult.

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list

 

My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out
of warrantee.  He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful
where he takes it.  I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there.
Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there?

 

any help greatly appreciated.

 

Jeff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: lenovo laptop help from the list

[Charles Whitby]

+1 on that.

You can download the hardware maintenance manual from the Lenovo support
site and probably find a fan on eBay.

I replaced wireless card in my T40 that way, no big deal.  (Also did the
keyboard on my daughter's Gateway laptop in the same manner - get hardware
manual, order keyboard, yadda , yadda)

At least get the hardware maintenance manual (freebie) and look it over.  If
it looks too daunting, take it somewhere..

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Don Guyer wrote:

>  I’ve had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no
> means a hardware guru. If he’s OK with it, have him order the fan and do it
> himself. It’s gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what’s involved, but
> don’t think it’s going to be that difficult.
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* lenovo laptop help from the list
>
>
>
> My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of
> warrantee.  He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he
> takes it.  I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there.  Anyone know of
> a person or place to recommend there?
>
>
>
> any help greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: lenovo laptop help from the list

[Jeff Brown]

He isn't technical at all, not all that sure it is the fan, definitely needs
to hand it to someone who has a clue.  Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Don Guyer wrote:

>  I’ve had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no
> means a hardware guru. If he’s OK with it, have him order the fan and do it
> himself. It’s gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what’s involved, but
> don’t think it’s going to be that difficult.
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* lenovo laptop help from the list
>
>
>
> My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of
> warrantee.  He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he
> takes it.  I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there.  Anyone know of
> a person or place to recommend there?
>
>
>
> any help greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Jeff
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Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

[Steve Ens]

No AV scanning that box.  I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040.

Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine
64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650)
That takes me to this link
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspx

Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was being
attempted, including:

   1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and all
   image files
   2. prior error messages in the event log
   3. available RAM on the system
   4. configuration settings
   5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks

All of these should've been OK.  Just doing a straight upgrade.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. <
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:

>  Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server?  That’s
> the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like
> that.  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804.
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
>
>
>
> Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine.  Went
> through the upgrade and let it run.  At home now, thinking the upgrade
> should be finished.  Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is
> nowhere to be seen.  I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that
> doesn't show up in the console.  The backup files do seem to be there, but
> what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead?  I've done
> these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues.  ANy
> ideas?
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RE: lenovo laptop help from the list

[Don Guyer]

I've had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no
means a hardware guru. If he's OK with it, have him order the fan and do
it himself. It's gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what's
involved, but don't think it's going to be that difficult.

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list

 

My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out
of warrantee.  He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful
where he takes it.  I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there.
Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there?

 

any help greatly appreciated.

 

Jeff

 

 

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RE: lenovo laptop help from the list

[Steven M. Caesare]

While I've never used their service dept, MicroCenter here in the
DC/VA/MD area is probably the best "store" type of place for computer
gear... far better than Best buy, etc... It's almost an East Coast
version of Fry's (albeit far smaller). They have a repair counter.

 

There's one in Fairfax, which isn't too far from him.

 

-sc

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list

 

My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out
of warrantee.  He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful
where he takes it.  I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there.
Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there?

 

any help greatly appreciated.

 

Jeff

 

 

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~   ~

lenovo laptop help from the list

[Jeff Brown]

My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of
warrantee.  He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he
takes it.  I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there.  Anyone know of
a person or place to recommend there?

any help greatly appreciated.

Jeff

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~   ~

Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:26 AM, James Rankin  wrote:
> Sometimes when the browser is getting it's electrons
> in a twist, I'll find machines in the server subnet not appearing when the
> script is run from the workstations subnet, and vice versa.

  While the NetBIOS browser is certainly not the most reliable thing
in the universe, I find the following helps:

A1. Use WINS
A2. Configure all computers as NetBIOS P-nodes (peer-to-peer) (no broadcasts)
A3. On each subnet, designate a small number of reliable computers be
preferred master browsers

-- Ben

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RE: Script: Run a command for each computer on network

[John Cook]

Nice, I feel violated after stepping into Bens dumping ground!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network

Nice, Ben

Thanks.  It's always good to see different approaches.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here's another batch script I realized others might find useful.  It
runs a command for every computer it finds on the network (via "NET
VIEW").  Useful when you want to do something on every computer
currently running on the LAN.  You can specify patterns to match and
patterns to exclude.

The command runs on the local computer, but you could combine it with
PSEXEC to run the commands on the remote computer.

It includes an example that will concisely list the version of two
different OCX control files for each matching computer.

http://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/windows/for-each-computer

-- Ben

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RE: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server?  That's the only 
thing I can think of that I've seen completely kill off guests like that.  
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804.

-Bonnie

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine.  Went through 
the upgrade and let it run.  At home now, thinking the upgrade should be 
finished.  Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is nowhere to be 
seen.  I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that doesn't show up in 
the console.  The backup files do seem to be there, but what's the easiest way 
to bring the server back from the dead?  I've done these upgrades a bunch of 
times on a test server, with no issues.  ANy ideas?





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RE: Forefront Client Security

[John Hornbuckle]

I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client 
software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause 
weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, "a smidge complicated." I'd go further 
than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all 
user-friendly.

Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the "SecurityTools" 
malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly 
modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's 
definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs 
to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware 
always seems to be a step ahead of FCS.

Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one 
of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software 
restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite 
effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to 
security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware 
regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get 
infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took 
about 30 seconds.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us






-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security

I use it.

Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.

It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
like that. It just runs, properly.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forefront Client Security

Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering 
if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.

I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, and 
deploy to clients, etc?


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RE: Equallogic and Sata

[N Parr]

What kind of ratio are you seeing for clients to array with VDI.  And
are you doing anything  intensive with your desktops or are they just
normal business apps?  I really want to use VDI in the future when we
can finally start doing OS refreshes.



From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Equallogic and Sata


I'll agree with the others and say that SATA works great on the EQ's
(even though I use the SAS versions nowadays).
 
You mentioned virtual machines... one thing that will eat up iops like
nothing else is if you start doing vdi on top of the virtual machines.
If so, measure carefully with San HQ and move slowly so that you don't
max out the array.
 
-Anders


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:


Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic
P4000 series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA
(16TB) as he is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual
machines and such off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My
other option is the HP P4000 G2 series.  

 


 






 

 


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Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network

[James Rankin]

I use net view combined with psexec in a few of my command scripts (most
notably the ones that do *gpupdate* and *wuauclt /detectnow*), however I
find that you've got to have your browser service in good working order for
it to function as expected. Sometimes when the browser is getting it's
electrons in a twist, I'll find machines in the server subnet not appearing
when the script is run from the workstations subnet, and vice versa. If you
find this issue, maybe it's time to break out the dark mysteries of *browstat
*and find out how your browsing is doing.

On 26 March 2010 00:36, Ben Scott  wrote:

> Here's another batch script I realized others might find useful.  It
> runs a command for every computer it finds on the network (via "NET
> VIEW").  Useful when you want to do something on every computer
> currently running on the LAN.  You can specify patterns to match and
> patterns to exclude.
>
> The command runs on the local computer, but you could combine it with
> PSEXEC to run the commands on the remote computer.
>
> It includes an example that will concisely list the version of two
> different OCX control files for each matching computer.
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/windows/for-each-computer
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>



-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

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Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>> ... runs a command for every computer it finds on the network ...
>
> Nice, Ben

  Thanks!

> Thanks.  It's always good to see different approaches.

  That was my thinking.  :)

-- Ben

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~   ~

Re: Epic Fail

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming
 wrote:
>>   I've also seen this cause more subtle differences.  For example, at home, I
>> sometimes get different Google search results vs at work. Both on Comcast,
>> within 30 miles of each other.
>
> Different Google cookies, so different search histories -- unless you log in 
> to
> the same GMail or other Google account at both places, they'll have different
> histories.

  I do actually tend to log in to the same Google account in both
places, but now that you mention it, I can't guarantee that wasn't the
issue.

-- Ben

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