Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Ben Scott]

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming
 wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2010 at 12:33, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>
>> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the
>> streets.
>
> As long as it isn't violins in the streets.

  And sax on TV, and youth in Asia.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

R: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

[HELP_PC]

About Windows VDA or generally about OEM ? 


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Inviato: sabato 18 settembre 2010 8.23
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

On 17 Sep 2010 at 16:45, Gary Slinger  wrote:

> Google "Windows VDA".  MS's position on running a virtualized Windows 
> instance is you either need SA, or a VDA subscription.

My point is that MS's position might not be legally sustainable.


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT KVM recommondation

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 17 Sep 2010 at 11:09, Jonathan Link  wrote:

> On another note, where´s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

POETS -- P*ss On Everything, Tomorrow's Saturday.

Just a little better than "Sure Happy It's Thursday."

;-)


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 17 Sep 2010 at 12:33, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the 
> streets.

As long as it isn't violins in the streets.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 17 Sep 2010 at 16:45, Gary Slinger  wrote:

> Google "Windows VDA".  MS's position on running a virtualized Windows
> instance is you either need SA, or a VDA subscription. 

My point is that MS's position might not be legally sustainable.


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Day in the life of a sysadmin

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 17 Sep 2010 at 17:27, Ben Scott  wrote:

> http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2009/01/for_new_sysadminsit_types.html

+1

Fscking users, can't live with them, don't have a job without them.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 17 Sep 2010 at 18:31, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

> You ARE OLD!

That was past my time.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: iTunes

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Nice!

--
ME2


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  Just came across this:
>
>
>
> “The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware”
>
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-unofficial-guide-to-installing-itunes-10-without-bloatware/2390?tag=mantle_skin;content
>
>
>
> Also, you can ORCA the iTunes MSI to install without Quicktime.  At least
> in v9 you could.
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 6:21 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: iTunes
>
>
>
> +1 (ditto)
>
> --
> ME2
>
>  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Anders Blomgren 
> wrote:
>
> There are actually 6 msi files inside the installer, some of which have
> dependencies on the others. For strict iTunes you need
> AppleApplicationSupport, QuickTime and iTunes. MobileDeviceSupport might be
> nice if they're actually going to connect iWhatever. I don't install
> MobileMe or Bonjour.
>
>
>
> -Anders
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Mike Gill 
> wrote:
>
> In spite of there being an MSI file inside the installer, I have never been
> able to get it to deploy. Appdeploy.com has a bunch of resources I believe
> with people getting it to work but it was no small task. Maybe there are
> some 3rd party deployment tools that work well.
>
> Aside from that, iTunes media is generally high bitrate. Meaning audio and
> video will take up a lot of space. Depending on if you backup or store your
> users My Docs folder on a server the space requirements may shoot up.
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:17 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: iTunes
>
> I have a manager pushing to have iTunes allowed in the workplace.  We have
> a few audio techs who require downloading hard to find music tracks
> occationally but other than that we have not allowed iTunes in the
> enterprise (proliferation of illegally obtained music, using valuable corp
> bandwidth, etc).  I'm still against it.  Anyone have any pros/cons?
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <
> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: iTunes

[Sam Cayze]

Just came across this:

 

"The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware"

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-unofficial-guide-to-installing-itunes
-10-without-bloatware/2390?tag=mantle_skin;content

 

Also, you can ORCA the iTunes MSI to install without Quicktime.  At
least in v9 you could.

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iTunes

 

+1 (ditto)

--
ME2



On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Anders Blomgren 
wrote:

There are actually 6 msi files inside the installer, some of which have
dependencies on the others. For strict iTunes you need
AppleApplicationSupport, QuickTime and iTunes. MobileDeviceSupport might
be nice if they're actually going to connect iWhatever. I don't install
MobileMe or Bonjour.

 

-Anders

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Mike Gill 
wrote:

In spite of there being an MSI file inside the installer, I have never
been able to get it to deploy. Appdeploy.com has a bunch of resources I
believe with people getting it to work but it was no small task. Maybe
there are some 3rd party deployment tools that work well.

Aside from that, iTunes media is generally high bitrate. Meaning audio
and video will take up a lot of space. Depending on if you backup or
store your users My Docs folder on a server the space requirements may
shoot up.

--
Mike Gill


-Original Message-
From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: iTunes

I have a manager pushing to have iTunes allowed in the workplace.  We
have a few audio techs who require downloading hard to find music tracks
occationally but other than that we have not allowed iTunes in the
enterprise (proliferation of illegally obtained music, using valuable
corp bandwidth, etc).  I'm still against it.  Anyone have any pros/cons?

Thanks,
Dennis

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: MS Software pricing online

[Sam Cayze]

Microsoft License Advisor

Click on Build Quote.  You can generate a quote will all the retail
prices.

 

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/mla/default.aspx

 

Sam

 

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS Software pricing online

 

If you search for nearly any windows software on CDW's site for example,
you get so many options for the same thing with abbreviated codes its
next to impossible to deduce what you need/want.

 

Is there an online vendor that anyone knows with a good setup, I need to
have a quote roughly put together for boss tonight and its likely too
late to call someone in time for me to get this done...

 

Thanks!
jlc

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Jon Harris]

What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there done that
and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Thank you, thank you!
>
> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the
> streets.
>
> *ASB*
> * *
>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh <
> k...@colonialsavings.com> wrote:
>
>> I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
>> sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
>> As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
>> any day.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>   Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>>
>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>> animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>> > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>> >
>> > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
>> > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>> >
>> > -ASB
>>
>   ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: MS Software pricing online

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Joseph L. Casale
 wrote:
> If you search for nearly any windows software on CDW’s site for example, you
> get so many options for the same thing with abbreviated codes its next to
> impossible to deduce what you need/want.

  +1.  Does anyone have a decoder ring for that stuff?  Seriously.  I
see things like

MS OFC 2010 L&SA MOLP MYO SL BYOB WTF BBQ

and am left wondering if that's a product description or if my web
browser is broken.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: iTunes

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

+1 (ditto)

--
ME2


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Anders Blomgren wrote:

> There are actually 6 msi files inside the installer, some of which have
> dependencies on the others. For strict iTunes you need
> AppleApplicationSupport, QuickTime and iTunes. MobileDeviceSupport might be
> nice if they're actually going to connect iWhatever. I don't install
> MobileMe or Bonjour.
>
> -Anders
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Mike Gill wrote:
>
>> In spite of there being an MSI file inside the installer, I have never
>> been able to get it to deploy. Appdeploy.com has a bunch of resources I
>> believe with people getting it to work but it was no small task. Maybe there
>> are some 3rd party deployment tools that work well.
>>
>> Aside from that, iTunes media is generally high bitrate. Meaning audio and
>> video will take up a lot of space. Depending on if you backup or store your
>> users My Docs folder on a server the space requirements may shoot up.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Gill
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:17 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>  Subject: iTunes
>>
>> I have a manager pushing to have iTunes allowed in the workplace.  We have
>> a few audio techs who require downloading hard to find music tracks
>> occationally but other than that we have not allowed iTunes in the
>> enterprise (proliferation of illegally obtained music, using valuable corp
>> bandwidth, etc).  I'm still against it.  Anyone have any pros/cons?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dennis
>>
>>  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <
>> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: iTunes

[Jon Harris]

Not an excuse but I was working with 2 females one had a card to the iTunes
store and I believe you MUST us the iTunes software for that to work.
Neither female was willing to wait more than 30 seconds and with a wife and
teenager both yelling to get it done now.  Well I got it done now.  I will
look at SharePod when I go to replace the OS on the laptop at Thanksgiving.
Some days it just does not pay to come home from the office!

Jon

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
wrote:

> On 16 Sep 2010 at 21:01, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
> > ^(*&^()&()* iTunes was required to get music
> > loaded on my daughters iPod.
>
> Not true, I believe you can use SharePod to load iPods. (No personal
> experience, I don't own one.)
>
>  SharePod
>"Add and remove music, videos, playlists and artwork on your iPod."
>  http://www.getsharepod.com/
>
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: MS Software pricing online

[Andrew S. Baker]

Do you just need pricing?

Use Google products to determine average pricing.  That should hold you over
until you can get an actual quote on Monday.

Or, try west coast vendors.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

Sent with great difficulty from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 17, 2010 6:14 PM, "Joseph L. Casale" 
wrote:

If you search for nearly any windows software on CDW’s site for example, you
get so many options for the same thing with abbreviated codes its next to
impossible to deduce what you need/want.



Is there an online vendor that anyone knows with a good setup, I need to
have a quote roughly put together for boss tonight and its likely too late
to call someone in time for me to get this done…



Thanks!
jlc

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Ben Scott]

LOL!!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:
> "Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" - (says the HP switch from within a 
> largely Cisco network)
>
>
>
>
> "But I'm not dead yet!" - 3Com
>
> "Don't worry, you will be!" - HP to 3Com
>
>
>
>
> "she turned me into a newt!" (Cisco says excitedly about HP)
>
> "You look alright to me..." (HP Procurve net admin)
>
> "I got better..." (Cisco sheepishly...)
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
> "I thought this was an Argument!?"
> "No, this is Abuse!"
> --Monty Python, Argument skit
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Andrew S. Baker
> [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2010
> 09:33:48 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>> Thank you, thank you!
>>
>> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.
>>
>> *ASB*
>> * *
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
>> > sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
>> > As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
>> > any day.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>> >
>> > Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>> > animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>> >
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>> > > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>> > >
>> > > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
>> > > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>> > >
>> > > -ASB
>> >
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here: 
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
> Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL 
> and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, 
> disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message 
> may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is 
> intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as 
> recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this 
> message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from 
> your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not 
> disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that 
> it contains.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here: 
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)

   Hey, look!  Somebody wrote "gullible" on the ceiling!

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Day in the life of a sysadmin

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Ok, now THAT was funny. Have a good weekend everybody!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Day in the life of a sysadmin

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:
> Really long, and probably been posted here before, but it eerily reminds me
> of someone I know...sound familiar to anyone else?

  Oh ghods yes.  That is one of my all time favorites.  Although I've
since become partial to

http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2009/01/for_new_sysadminsit_types.html

as it's somewhat shorter, thus increasing the concentration level of
the cynicism.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL 
and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, 
disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may 
contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is 
intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as 
recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this 
message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from 
your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not 
disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it 
contains.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Day in the life of a sysadmin

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:
> Really long, and probably been posted here before, but it eerily reminds me
> of someone I know…sound familiar to anyone else?

  Oh ghods yes.  That is one of my all time favorites.  Although I've
since become partial to

http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2009/01/for_new_sysadminsit_types.html

as it's somewhat shorter, thus increasing the concentration level of
the cynicism.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT KVM recommondation

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>> On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special this
> week.  Didn't you notice?

/cue slow chuckle building to a true LOL

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Sunday is Talk Like a Pirate Day

[Ben Scott]

Ahoy!

  This Sunday (19 Sep) be International Talk Like A Pirate Day, buckos!

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/

  Arrr!

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[James Kerr]

Weak man, weak.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:
  Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT: 
Friday Funny.  

   

  Thank you for playing.suckas. J 

   

  Shook

   

  From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM


  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

   

  I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes 
perfect sense...



   

  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

  Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article 
on it. 

   

  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

  - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me! 

   

  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

   

  Shook

   

  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

   

  I dont see anything funny!  :-(

  --
  ME2

  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

  Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

   

  Shook

   

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

   

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

   

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

   

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

   

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

   

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~   ~

  ---
  To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
  or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
  with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: clearcloud

[James Kerr]

Hmm, I changed our DNS forwarder yesterday to clear cloud to give it a try 
and since then my Vipre sunbelt spam engine has been scoring legit email 
really high and getting them quarantined. I've changed it back to our ISP 
and I'll see what happens.


James

- Original Message - 
From: "S Powell" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:37 PM
Subject: clearcloud


so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
not working.

our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy

thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?

Google.com Learn it. Live it. Love it.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/

or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Friday funny

[pdw1914]

Ah, you beat me to it, Sam.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=break+the+internet+it+crowd&aq=1

Subject: RE: Friday funny
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:24:16 -0500
From: sam.ca...@rollouts.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com



You will break the Internet!   From: Andy Shook 
[mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ 
marks) Shook ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~

~   ~



---

To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/

or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com

with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin   
  
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT KVM recommondation

[James Kerr]

Of course I totally agree, however, I never said In was looking for a cheap 
KVM, just a simple one that works. I really don't need an IP KVM but now that I 
have looked at what they can do they seem pretty cool but my servers are not 
far and I rarely have to do any work on them that I can't do remotely. If I do 
I can just pull it and work on it in my office, I only manage 10 servers, 8 
here and two in another county. Is it Friday yet?


James
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:08 AM
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation


  Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You hit 
the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very brief 
post. Someone saying, "I just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap 
option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?" Well for some applications, it 
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said device and how 
much frustration you're willing to live with.

   

  On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!

   

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com 


--

  From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

   

  Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.  Across 
classes, as opposed to within the class.

   

  That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from 
the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

   

  However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within the 
tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost alone to be 
insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

   

  I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest 
end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that 
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the 
differentiator.

   

  While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago, 
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But they 
were in the same enterprise level class... :)

  And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



  ASB (My XeeSM Profile) 
  Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
   

  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 wrote:

  LOL, +1

  Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 
or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

  Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

  Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please 
excuse brevity & any misspellings.

  - Reply message -
  From: "Jonathan Link" 
  Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

  To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

  What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:

  Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.

  -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


  Sent from my Motorola Droid

  On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
  I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@e...

  -Original Message-

  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

  My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
  you must have thought I wa...

  - Original Message -

  From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
  To: "NT System Admin...

  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

  --Matt Ross
  Ephrata School District


  - Original Message -
  From: James Kerr

  [mailto:clusterp...

  Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

  11:31:45 -0700
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
  >
  >

  > - Original Message -

  > From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
  > To: "NT System...

  > 
  > >
  > > Any medic...

  ~ F

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Andy Shook]

You are, snooky-wooky-poo

Shook

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

If only it had been worth falling for.

-sc

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

And you fell for itchump

Shook

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

That was incredibly lame.

-sc

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT: Friday 
Funny.

Thank you for playing...suckas. :)

Shook

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes perfect 
sense...



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article on 
it.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ 

Re: Software development companies and internal systems management...

[Steven Peck]

The important part is schedule.  As in they will be patched in a timely
manner.  Only the time of day is negotiable, sort of.  As long as you are
not working at 2am because of it.

AV.  they will have it.  It will be updated.

But my stuff won't work if 'patch' breaks it "It's a security patch,
your stuff will need to work with it"

Steven

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> I've seen it done a number of ways.  I'll stick to the pleasant ones.  :)
>
> Put them on their own network, and even own domain, and setup a schedule
> for patch management that works for both IT and Development.
>
> In one place, we segmented the dev team and further segmented their
> virtualized development environment.  Some of them were given additional
> rights to regulate AV on their local machines, but anyone who got infected
> was made less privileged the next time around.
>
> We only had 3 repeat offenders, including one guy who wrecked a portion of
> the dev environment and earned the wrath of his colleagues.  We simply
> locked him down, recovered the environment from snapshots and moved on.  :)
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:03 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
>>  For those of you in software development companies – how do you handle
>> development machines vs. normal employee use machines as far as managing
>> patches, AV, level of local user permissions, etc. you don’t have them on a
>> separate subdomain or anything do you?
>>
>> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
>> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
>> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Switch opinions

[pdw1914]

You know, that's a good STFU line even if you're not talking about switches. 

> Subject: RE: RE: Switch opinions
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:04:37 -0400
> From: scaes...@caesare.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> 
> Plug one end of your Ethernet cable in to the switch.
> 
> Shove the other end in your /dev/nul orifice.
> 
> -sc
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:24 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: RE: Switch opinions
> > 
> > But can they pipe packets to dev null?
> > 
> > ***
> > Charlie Kaiser
> > charl...@golden-eagle.org
> > Kingman, AZ
> > ***
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:21 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
> > >
> > > Cisco switches are web scale...
> > >
> > > -Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Andrew S. Baker
> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >   ROFL!  I can see it now.
> > >
> > >   ASB
> > >
> > >
> > >   On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >   It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...
> > >
> > >   -sc
> > >
> > >
> > >   > -Original Message-
> > >   > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > >
> > >   > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:55 AM
> > >   > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > >
> > >   > Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
> > >   >
> > >   > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> > > 
> > >   > wrote:
> > >   > >> How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a
> "better"
> > switch for
> > >   > >> the money, and their support is better... then why
> > aren't they the
> > > market
> > >   > leader?
> > >   > >
> > >   > > This is a flawed argument. See: "McDonalds hamburger
> > sales vs. quality".
> > >   >
> > >   >   McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.
> > >
> > >   >
> > >   > -- Ben
> > >   >
> > >
> > >
> > >   ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog!
> ~
> > >   ~ 
> > ~
> > >
> > >   ---
> > >   To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-
> > > software.com/read/my_forums/
> > >   or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > >   with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> > >
> > > ---
> > > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> > 
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-
> > software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
> 
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here: 
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> 
  
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Steven M. Caesare]

If only it had been worth falling for.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

 

And you fell for itchump

 

Shook

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

 

That was incredibly lame.

 

-sc

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT:
Friday Funny.  

 

Thank you for playing...suckas. :-) 

 

Shook

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
perfect sense...



 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an
article on it. 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me! 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Go to google.com   and search for 'Google' (w/o the
' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click 

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Steven M. Caesare]

No, I expected it to be lame coming from Shook.

 

I was right.

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

You expect more of Shook?

Now THAT's funny.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

That was incredibly lame.

 

-sc

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT:
Friday Funny.  

 

Thank you for playing...suckas. :-) 

 

Shook

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
perfect sense...



 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an
article on it. 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me! 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Go to google.com   and search for 'Google' (w/o the
' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or 

Re: Software development companies and internal systems management...

[Andrew S. Baker]

I've seen it done a number of ways.  I'll stick to the pleasant ones.  :)

Put them on their own network, and even own domain, and setup a schedule for
patch management that works for both IT and Development.

In one place, we segmented the dev team and further segmented their
virtualized development environment.  Some of them were given additional
rights to regulate AV on their local machines, but anyone who got infected
was made less privileged the next time around.

We only had 3 repeat offenders, including one guy who wrecked a portion of
the dev environment and earned the wrath of his colleagues.  We simply
locked him down, recovered the environment from snapshots and moved on.  :)


*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:03 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  For those of you in software development companies – how do you handle
> development machines vs. normal employee use machines as far as managing
> patches, AV, level of local user permissions, etc. you don’t have them on a
> separate subdomain or anything do you?
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

I think he's just upset because he didn't think of it first.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

And you fell for itchump

Shook

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

That was incredibly lame.

-sc

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT: Friday 
Funny.

Thank you for playing...suckas. :)

Shook

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes perfect 
sense...



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article on 
it.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resourc

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Andy Shook]

And you fell for itchump

Shook

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

That was incredibly lame.

-sc

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT: Friday 
Funny.

Thank you for playing...suckas. :)

Shook

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes perfect 
sense...



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article on 
it.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ 

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Jonathan Link]

You expect more of Shook?
Now THAT's funny.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  That was incredibly lame.
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Actually, seeing all ya’ll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT:
> Friday Funny.
>
>
>
> Thank you for playing…suckas. J
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
> perfect sense...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>
> Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article
> on it.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
> - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Steven M. Caesare]

That was incredibly lame.

 

-sc

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT:
Friday Funny.  

 

Thank you for playing...suckas. :-) 

 

Shook

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
perfect sense...



 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an
article on it. 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me! 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Go to google.com   and search for 'Google' (w/o the
' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

I'm so confused.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

Who?!

What?!

Where?!

Why?!

(that was Vinnie Barbarino for you youngsters)..

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

You ARE OLD!

:)


From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL 
and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, 
disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may 
contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is 
intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as 
recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this 
message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from 
your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not 
disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it 
contains.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Maglinger, Paul]

Nope.

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

 

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Don Guyer]

Who?!

 

What?!

 

Where?!

 

Why?!

 

(that was Vinnie Barbarino for you youngsters)..

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

 

You ARE OLD!

 

J

 

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me! 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
wrote:

Go to google.com   and search for 'Google' (w/o the
' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Michael B. Smith]

You ARE OLD!

:)


From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

OpenDNS coupled with Malwarebytes (registered) should cover all bases.

--
ME2


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> OpenDNS also offers FamilyShield:  https://www.opendns.com/familyshield
>
> Not quite a comprehensive as their
> standard product, but more security features.  Of course, I expect
> ClearCloud to be better against more malware.
>
> OpenDNS does block *some* malware sites, except in the BASIC service.  (I'm
> subscribed to the $9.95/yr plan)
>
> Anyway, I've put in a request for them to use external malware feeds and
> allow purchasing/obtaining the malware function across all subscription
> levels.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Alex Eckelberry <
> al...@sunbelt-software.com> wrote:
>
>> OpenDNS is a Cadillac Escalade, ClearCloud DNS is a Porsche.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, that’s the hyperbole.  But it’s apt.
>>
>>
>>
>> I like OpenDNS.  I have used the service, and we are very good friends
>> with the principals over there.
>>
>>
>>
>> But OpenDNS is a very sophisticated system that includes content
>> filtering.  ClearCloud is just focused on malware sites.
>>
>>
>>
>> OpenDNS does not block malware sites, instead requiring an additional fee:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.opendns.com/start/
>>
>>
>>
>> Users of both products who have been testing it indicate that they prefer
>> ClearCloud because:
>>
>> -  It is very simple – just enter the IP number and go.  Unlike
>> OpenDNS, we don’t care where you IP originated from (for configuration
>> management), so we don’t have to worry about updating dynamic DNS, etc.
>>
>> -  It’s quite a bit faster.  OpenDNS does a lot of incredible
>> things, but these come at a performance cost.
>>
>> OpenDNS is a company setup to make money on DNS. We aren’t.  For us, the
>> DNS portion of ClearCloud is only one part of the equation.  ClearCloud is
>> actually the DNS infrastructure which will provide a major part of our
>> future cloud-services model.  So it pops off the work we’re already doing.
>> That’s not to say we won’t try and figure out a way to make some money off
>> of it at some point (maybe by charging business a small fee for it at some
>> point in the future), but it’s not our primary focus.
>>
>>
>>
>> But simply: If you’re not worried about content filtering (which has its
>> limitations anyway in DNS, since you can only block a domain, not a full
>> URL), then ClearCloud is better. If you want content filtering, use OpenDNS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:24 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
>>
>>
>>
>> OpenDNS provides similar benefits...
>>
>>
>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>> * *
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:27 AM, John Hornbuckle <
>> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
>>
>> Trying it now. Love the concept—let’s see if it helps.  :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:58 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
>>
>>
>>
>> Btw, we update the malware URLs of these rogues right into ClearCloud.
>>
>>
>>
>> Feel free to and the ClearCloud DNS server as a replacement to your
>> existing DNS:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://clearclouddns.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s still beta, but I think you’ll find it works quite well.  And it’s
>> free.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:55 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
>>
>>
>>
>> http://vipre.malwarebytes.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> Free.  And the combination really works.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
>>  *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:20 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
>>
>>
>>
>> The “Security Tools” malware is about to drive me insane. My users keep
>> managing to infect themselves with it, and we’re having trouble stopping it.
>>
>>
>>
>> They don’t run with admin rights, so there’s no real damage done to their
>> systems and we can clean it up in about two minutes. But the time adds up,
>> and I’m tired of my technicians having to waste time on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our antimalware software is Microsoft’s Forefront Client Security, and
>> it’s having a tough time catching this. Every time I get infected, I send
>> the EXE to Microsoft and they update their definitions—but the EXE’s used by
>> the malware apparently change rapidly, and seem to constantly be a step
>> ahead of

RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Yeah, when planning to possibly go to 7 this year, we realized printing and 
drivers were going to be a big issue, hence the migration at the end of the 
school year.

Saw this on one of the questions--I wonder if this would work for you?
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2008/09/19/installing-windows-vista-print-drivers-on-windows-server-2003.aspx

-B

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

Bonnie, I think you're right, going from memory I think the problem I
came to was the fact that we still have Windows 2003 print server with
no plans to upgrade it in the near future.

Some of the links I had for this project are below.  I was hoping one
of these would solve my problem, but what I am seeing is that when a
new user logs into a Windows 7 computer the GPP printers just don't
show up.  Although in every case if an admin were to install them
prior to the user login the when the user logs in they do show up
immediately.  There is no error in the log file, and no error to the
screen.  GPResult shows that the GPP had applied successfully.  Since
the problem only affects new users to new machines and is quickly
solved by an admin login it's been difficult to really trace.  I'm
just holding off on Windows 7 in departments where I push printers.
Not the best solution but we are understaffed!  ;)



http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows-vista/22950-solution-mapping-printers-logon-scripts-vista-7-without-uac-interupting.html#post223322

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprosecurity/thread/adebbc69-4623-4a96-a84a-d4c324e326c0

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2008/09/19/installing-windows-vista-print-drivers-on-windows-server-2003.aspx



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> And to possibly answer my own post, I did a quick google and am mostly seeing 
> stuff about driver compatibility being the problem.  For example, adding Win7 
> boxen when your print server is still WS03, then it can't load drivers so the 
> GPP appears to not work.
>
> We just  completed our print server migration to 2008 R2 last 
> spring, and have both XP and 7 machines loading drivers from there, both x86 
> and x64.  I only have one application that is still having a major issue, 
> which is Filemaker Pro combined with  the HP universal drivers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
> If you come up with the article, please post.  This could be a huge problem 
> for us implementing W7 for student labs.  Don't think we've tried it yet.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:45 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
> I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
> described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
> deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
> have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
> test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
> wild!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Interesting-I don't think I've heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
>> check that setting as we don't have a widespread deployment yet (but it's
>> coming soon!).  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> -B
>>
>>
>>
>> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>>
>>
>>
>> it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
>> Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts
>>
>> On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin  wrote:
>>
>> It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
>> drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
>> application.
>>
>> I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. 
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
>> group in combo.  James-can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
>> restrictions?  I don't think we have that set and I'm wondering what the
>> issue is/was.
>>
>>
>>
>> For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
>> applied for this all to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>>
>>
>>
>> Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
>> Preferences printers list as

Re: RE: Switch opinions

[William Robbins]

Yes, I'll even fill it up with gas when I'm done.

 - WJR


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 22:20, Don Ely  wrote:

> Will I get it back?  I like to throw stones in a glass house...
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:14 PM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> Can I borrow your rock?  I need to throw it at someone.
>>
>>  - WJR
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 16:50, Don Ely  wrote:
>>
>>> My rock is shinier than your rock  Neener neener neener
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
  Three points:

 - Please substantiate your allegation that HP support for networking is
 somehow inferior because you're not paying for an expensive support
 contact.  (I've spoken to quite a few techs from both organizations)

 - I mentioned that Cisco had more failures *percentage-wise*.  I did not
 make the comparison on sheer number of incidents, as that would have been
 skewed by market share.

 - Please provide me a use-case where a Cisco switch is proven to provide
 some functionality that an HP ProCurve cannot accomplish without incurring
 costs our complexity that negate the cost differential.

 You've already  agreed with the equality of quality.

 These are all part of the value proposition.

 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 

 Sent from my Motorola Droid

  On Sep 16, 2010 4:49 PM, "Rohyans, Aaron" 
 wrote:

 I think you’re missing my point here… though I may not be clear enough.
 My point is one of support *value*, rather than support *cost*.  Is HP
 cheaper than Cisco when it comes to support? … yes, hands down.  Does HP
 provide the same level of support from a value perspective as Cisco? … I
 would have to say no.  Again, *you get what you pay for*.  You’re not
 paying for high value support… thus, HP will gladly throw new equipment 
 your
 way and let you talk to a low-end tech all day long if it’ll make you
 happy.  It’s worth it to them.  Cisco, on the other hand, takes a different
 approach… you pay for support, but have access to a large pool of technical
 resources when things go awry… even access to the developers themselves.
 Keep in mind also that Cisco offers one of the best online documentation
 systems of any manufacturer in the world… becoming familiar with Cisco
 products is not hard… and it’s free.



 As to the price difference… we could argue features all day long… but
 how do you define “comparable” switches?  Yes, both are Ethernet switches
 and both operate at 10/100/1000Gb… and if that’s all you’re after, then you
 shouldn’t be looking at Cisco.  Cisco offers some of the most granular and
 technologically advanced features in their product lineup… “comparing” 
 these
 two switches requires a baseline for comparison.  To some, Cisco’s “cheap”
 in terms of what you get for the cost.  To others they’re ungodly 
 expensive,
 but those “others” typically aren’t concerned with the added features that
 you get with Cisco… thus HP makes the most sense, or any other vendor for
 that matter.



 HP is probably lower in overall device failures… but they have less than
 20% of the switching market share.  Compared to Cisco’s 70%, that would 
 make
 sense.  *I’m not arguing the “quality” of HP/Cisco switches here*.
 You’re right, both are rock solid!





 Aaron T. Rohyans
 Senior Network Engineer

 CCIE #21945

 DPSciences Corporation
 7400 N. Shadeland...

   *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:04 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Switch opinions





 >>It’s a lame attempt to acquire market share by offering free support
 on the product line.

 .



 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~   ~

 ---
 To manage subscriptions click here:
 http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
 or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
 with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>> ---
>>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ 

RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Kim Longenbaugh]

Dare I say that I have much greater faith in you keeping your promises than I 
do in certain other groups and individuals that are currently dominating high 
positions?

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Thank you, thank you!

 

I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.

ASB
 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh  
wrote:

I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not sensitive 
enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team any 
day.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>
> -ASB

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

[Stephen Wimberly]

Bonnie, I think you're right, going from memory I think the problem I
came to was the fact that we still have Windows 2003 print server with
no plans to upgrade it in the near future.

Some of the links I had for this project are below.  I was hoping one
of these would solve my problem, but what I am seeing is that when a
new user logs into a Windows 7 computer the GPP printers just don't
show up.  Although in every case if an admin were to install them
prior to the user login the when the user logs in they do show up
immediately.  There is no error in the log file, and no error to the
screen.  GPResult shows that the GPP had applied successfully.  Since
the problem only affects new users to new machines and is quickly
solved by an admin login it's been difficult to really trace.  I'm
just holding off on Windows 7 in departments where I push printers.
Not the best solution but we are understaffed!  ;)



http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows-vista/22950-solution-mapping-printers-logon-scripts-vista-7-without-uac-interupting.html#post223322

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprosecurity/thread/adebbc69-4623-4a96-a84a-d4c324e326c0

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2008/09/19/installing-windows-vista-print-drivers-on-windows-server-2003.aspx



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> And to possibly answer my own post, I did a quick google and am mostly seeing 
> stuff about driver compatibility being the problem.  For example, adding Win7 
> boxen when your print server is still WS03, then it can't load drivers so the 
> GPP appears to not work.
>
> We just  completed our print server migration to 2008 R2 last 
> spring, and have both XP and 7 machines loading drivers from there, both x86 
> and x64.  I only have one application that is still having a major issue, 
> which is Filemaker Pro combined with  the HP universal drivers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
> If you come up with the article, please post.  This could be a huge problem 
> for us implementing W7 for student labs.  Don't think we've tried it yet.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:45 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
> I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
> described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
> deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
> have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
> test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
> wild!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Interesting-I don't think I've heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
>> check that setting as we don't have a widespread deployment yet (but it's
>> coming soon!).  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> -B
>>
>>
>>
>> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>>
>>
>>
>> it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
>> Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts
>>
>> On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin  wrote:
>>
>> It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
>> drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
>> application.
>>
>> I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. 
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
>> group in combo.  James-can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
>> restrictions?  I don't think we have that set and I'm wondering what the
>> issue is/was.
>>
>>
>>
>> For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
>> applied for this all to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>>
>>
>>
>> Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
>> Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set
>> the default printer through that, and target it to the required users.
>>
>> Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
>> it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
>> a suitable one installed.
>>
>> On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John  wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon all,
>>
>>     Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
>> GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
>> a

Software development companies and internal systems management...

[David Lum]

For those of you in software development companies - how do you handle 
development machines vs. normal employee use machines as far as managing 
patches, AV, level of local user permissions, etc. you don't have them on a 
separate subdomain or anything do you?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[El Guapo]

I like these guys! They are funny guys!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Wherever there is injustice, you will find us.
> Wherever there is suffering, we'll be there.
> Wherever liberty is threatened, you will find...
> The Three Amigos!
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   --
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 1:41 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> You will pay for this great injustice!!!
>
> --
> ME2
>
>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Actually, seeing all ya’ll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT:
> Friday Funny.
>
>
>
> Thank you for playing…suckas. J
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
> perfect sense...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>
> Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article
> on it.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
> - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> --
> Any medical information contained in this electronic message is
> CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to
> view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This
> electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Sean Martin]

I came up with this?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4RDcDUkFI0

- Sean


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:
>
>>  Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>>
>>
>>
>> Shook
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

[MMF]

 

manually, its like 10 bucks a year, that's all of two drinks at the bar, no
biggie.



Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


Hey, what bar is selling drinks that cheap.at least alcoholic drinks?

Murray


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Bill Humphries]

I did it and got rick-rolled by goatse.


Charles Whitby wrote:
> Me neither.
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Andy Shook  > wrote:
>
> Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>  
>
> Shook
>
>  
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>  
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  > wrote:
>
> Go to google.com  and search for ‘Google’ (w/o
> the ‘ marks)
>
>  
>
> Shook
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> 
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> 
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> 
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here: 
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com 
> 
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Wherever there is injustice, you will find us.
Wherever there is suffering, we'll be there.
Wherever liberty is threatened, you will find...
The Three Amigos!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

You will pay for this great injustice!!!

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT: Friday 
Funny.

Thank you for playing...suckas. :)

Shook

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes perfect 
sense...



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article on 
it.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL 
and priv

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

You will pay for this great injustice!!!

--
ME2


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Actually, seeing all ya’ll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT:
> Friday Funny.
>
>
>
> Thank you for playing…suckas. J
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
> perfect sense...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>
> Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article
> on it.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
> - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: clearcloud

[Alex Eckelberry]

We'll check into all this.  Thanks for the feedback.


From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: clearcloud

You could try setting up forwarders to your previous public DNS servers for the 
RBLs in question.  I know that when you start to use the Barracuda RBL you have 
to register the IPs from which you'll be hitting the service.  
(http://www.barracudacentral.org/account/register)  Maybe that's the issue 
you're seeing.  I use OpenDNS and they've apparently already done the work with 
Barracuda since I never had any issues.


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:04 PM, S Powell 
mailto:powe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
i'll look at that... in the mean time

w2k8 DNS server, I have it in there
 ,  DNS, Forwarders, I have the clearcloud DNS in there, but
it won't resolve the dns server FQDN.
the others I use, OpenDNS and our ISPs resolve fine...

odd that


Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 09:54, Roger Wright 
mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Can you create a static DNS entry pointing to your RBL?
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
> nothin' like it!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, S Powell 
> mailto:powe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
>> not working.
>>
>> our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
>> but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy
>>
>> thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?
>>
>> Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to 
>> listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to 
> listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: clearcloud

[Richard Stovall]

You could try setting up forwarders to your previous public DNS servers for
the RBLs in question.  I know that when you start to use the Barracuda RBL
you have to register the IPs from which you'll be hitting the service.  (
http://www.barracudacentral.org/account/register)  Maybe that's the issue
you're seeing.  I use OpenDNS and they've apparently already done the work
with Barracuda since I never had any issues.


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:04 PM, S Powell  wrote:

> i'll look at that... in the mean time
>
> w2k8 DNS server, I have it in there
>  ,  DNS, Forwarders, I have the clearcloud DNS in there, but
> it won't resolve the dns server FQDN.
> the others I use, OpenDNS and our ISPs resolve fine...
>
> odd that
>
>
> Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 09:54, Roger Wright  wrote:
> > Can you create a static DNS entry pointing to your RBL?
> >
> >
> > Roger Wright
> > ___
> >
> > When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
> > nothin' like it!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, S Powell  wrote:
> >>
> >> so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
> >> not working.
> >>
> >> our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
> >> but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy
> >>
> >> thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?
> >>
> >> Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
> >>
> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> >> ~   ~
> >>
> >> ---
> >> To manage subscriptions click here:
> >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> >>
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Charles Whitby]

Me neither.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Erik Goldoff]

And I’m currently using the google dns at 8.8.8.8 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
perfect sense...



 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article
on it. 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me! 

 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

Go to google.com   and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘
marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Andy Shook]

Actually, seeing all ya'll gullible chumps actually do this was the OT: Friday 
Funny.

Thank you for playing...suckas. :)

Shook

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes perfect 
sense...



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck 
mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article on 
it.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Jonathan Link]

I didn't...of course, now that you say this, I use OpenDNS, so it makes
perfect sense...



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article
> on it.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
>> - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook wrote:
>>
>>>  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>>>
>>> --
>>> ME2
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>> ---
>>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>> ---
>>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~   ~
>>>
>>> ---
>>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Steven Peck]

Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article
on it.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook wrote:
>
>>  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>>
>>
>>
>> Shook
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>>
>>
>>
>> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>>
>>
>>
>> Shook
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Jeff Steward]

Well done, I was *that* close to having to clean coffee off my monitor :)

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

> "Latent racism?"
>
> If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
> with a multimedia footer appended to it.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>>
>>  - WJR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
 */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
 
 >
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
 * *

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
 jra...@eaglemds.com > wrote:

Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
_
jra...@eaglemds.com_
_www.eaglemds.com

  

*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
 
 >
**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
** **

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" >>>>
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>>>>

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>>>>> wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker <
 http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>


Sent from my Motorola 

Re: clearcloud

[S Powell]

i'll look at that... in the mean time

w2k8 DNS server, I have it in there
 ,  DNS, Forwarders, I have the clearcloud DNS in there, but
it won't resolve the dns server FQDN.
the others I use, OpenDNS and our ISPs resolve fine...

odd that


Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 09:54, Roger Wright  wrote:
> Can you create a static DNS entry pointing to your RBL?
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
> nothin' like it!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, S Powell  wrote:
>>
>> so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
>> not working.
>>
>> our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
>> but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy
>>
>> thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?
>>
>> Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[William Robbins]

What?  Where?


 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:59, Steve Ens  wrote:

> - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook wrote:
>
>>  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>>
>>
>>
>> Shook
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>>
>>
>>
>> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>>
>>
>>
>> Shook
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Steve Ens]

- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Erik Goldoff]

I didn’t see anything funny

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

 

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

 

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[S Powell]

well I use Bing, because it is the best way google the things you are
looking for.




Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 09:55, Andy Shook  wrote:
> Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[William Robbins]

*raises hand*

 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> I dont see anything funny!  :-(
>
> --
> ME2
>
>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
> wrote:
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT: Friday funny

[Andy Shook]

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

[Miller Bonnie L .]

And to possibly answer my own post, I did a quick google and am mostly seeing 
stuff about driver compatibility being the problem.  For example, adding Win7 
boxen when your print server is still WS03, then it can't load drivers so the 
GPP appears to not work.

We just  completed our print server migration to 2008 R2 last 
spring, and have both XP and 7 machines loading drivers from there, both x86 
and x64.  I only have one application that is still having a major issue, which 
is Filemaker Pro combined with  the HP universal drivers.

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

If you come up with the article, please post.  This could be a huge problem for 
us implementing W7 for student labs.  Don't think we've tried it yet.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
wild!



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Interesting-I don't think I've heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
> check that setting as we don't have a widespread deployment yet (but it's
> coming soon!).  Thanks!
>
>
>
> -B
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
>
>
> it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
> Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts
>
> On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin  wrote:
>
> It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
> drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
> application.
>
> I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!
>
>
>
> On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. 
> wrote:
>
> +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
> group in combo.  James-can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
> restrictions?  I don't think we have that set and I'm wondering what the
> issue is/was.
>
>
>
> For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
> applied for this all to work.
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
>
>
> Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
> Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set
> the default printer through that, and target it to the required users.
>
> Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
> it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
> a suitable one installed.
>
> On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
>     Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
> GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
> and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
> BUT you can't set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
> the printers to the user, then use 'item-level targeting' so it applies only
> when users logon to computers in certain OU's.   Is there a better way to
> skin this cat?
>
>
>
> Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
> printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?
>
>
>
> Thanks all!!
>
>
>
> *
> John C. Kelsey
> DuBois Regional Medical Center
> (:  814.375.3073
> 2  :   814.375.4005
> *:   jckel...@drmc.org
> *
>
>
>
>
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended
> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
> If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager.
> This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the
> individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not
> disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
> --
> "On two oc

Re: clearcloud

[Roger Wright]

Can you create a static DNS entry pointing to your RBL?


Roger Wright
___

When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
nothin' like it!




On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, S Powell  wrote:

> so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
> not working.
>
> our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
> but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy
>
> thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?
>
> Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" - (says the HP switch from within a largely 
Cisco network)




"But I'm not dead yet!" - 3Com

"Don't worry, you will be!" - HP to 3Com




"she turned me into a newt!" (Cisco says excitedly about HP)

"You look alright to me..." (HP Procurve net admin)

"I got better..." (Cisco sheepishly...)



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

"I thought this was an Argument!?"
"No, this is Abuse!"
--Monty Python, Argument skit

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2010
09:33:48 -0700
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


> Thank you, thank you!
>
> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.
>
> *ASB*
> * *
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
> wrote:
>
> > I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
> > sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
> > As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
> > any day.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
> > animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> > > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
> > >
> > > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> > > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
> > >
> > > -ASB
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL 
and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, 
disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may 
contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is 
intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as 
recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this 
message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from 
your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not 
disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it 
contains.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

[Gary Slinger]

Google "Windows VDA".  MS's position on running a virtualized Windows instance 
is you either need SA, or a VDA subscription. 

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. 
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:41:04 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: How to restore XP Image in 
XP Mode

I'll have to dig around and see if I can find what I had read--I think it might 
be in the EULA for XP mode or something.  But if you own an XP copy with a 
license that is valid, I agree that you should be able to run it where you want.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

> I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
> for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
> (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
> .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
> indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
> installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
> from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
> licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
> to run the clean-installed vhd as the "free" copy of XP, anything else and
> you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

[Miller Bonnie L .]

I'll have to dig around and see if I can find what I had read--I think it might 
be in the EULA for XP mode or something.  But if you own an XP copy with a 
license that is valid, I agree that you should be able to run it where you want.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

> I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
> for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
> (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
> .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
> indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
> installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
> from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
> licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
> to run the clean-installed vhd as the "free" copy of XP, anything else and
> you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

[Miller Bonnie L .]

If you come up with the article, please post.  This could be a huge problem for 
us implementing W7 for student labs.  Don't think we've tried it yet.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
wild!



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Interesting-I don't think I've heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
> check that setting as we don't have a widespread deployment yet (but it's
> coming soon!).  Thanks!
>
>
>
> -B
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
>
>
> it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
> Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts
>
> On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin  wrote:
>
> It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
> drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
> application.
>
> I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!
>
>
>
> On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. 
> wrote:
>
> +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
> group in combo.  James-can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
> restrictions?  I don't think we have that set and I'm wondering what the
> issue is/was.
>
>
>
> For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
> applied for this all to work.
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
>
>
> Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
> Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set
> the default printer through that, and target it to the required users.
>
> Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
> it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
> a suitable one installed.
>
> On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
>     Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
> GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
> and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
> BUT you can't set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
> the printers to the user, then use 'item-level targeting' so it applies only
> when users logon to computers in certain OU's.   Is there a better way to
> skin this cat?
>
>
>
> Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
> printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?
>
>
>
> Thanks all!!
>
>
>
> *
> John C. Kelsey
> DuBois Regional Medical Center
> (:  814.375.3073
> 2  :   814.375.4005
> *:   jckel...@drmc.org
> *
>
>
>
>
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended
> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
> If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager.
> This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the
> individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not
> disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions 

clearcloud

[S Powell]

so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
not working.

our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy

thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?

Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Matthew W. Ross]

"I thought this was an Argument!?"
"No, this is Abuse!"
--Monty Python, Argument skit

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2010
09:33:48 -0700
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


> Thank you, thank you!
> 
> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.
> 
> *ASB*
> * *
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
> wrote:
> 
> > I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
> > sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
> > As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
> > any day.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
> > animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> > > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
> > >
> > > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> > > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
> > >
> > > -ASB
> >
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
> 
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Andrew S. Baker]

Thank you, thank you!

I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.

*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
wrote:

> I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
> sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
> As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
> any day.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
> animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>
>
> Bill
>
> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
> >
> > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
> >
> > -ASB
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Andrew S. Baker]

LOL Well played, sir.  Well played indeed.

*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

> "Latent racism?"
>
> If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
> with a multimedia footer appended to it.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>>
>>  - WJR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
 >>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

 -ASB



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Kim Longenbaugh]

I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not sensitive 
enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team any 
day.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> */>>/**/On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>
> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week 
> special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
> mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>
> Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
> Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
> was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, "I
> just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
> Why do I need to spend $x,000?" Well for some applications, it
> might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
> device and how much frustration you're willing to live with.
>
>  
>
> On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
>  
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
> _
> jra...@eaglemds.com_
> _www.eaglemds.com
> 
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>  
>
> Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
> for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>
>  
>
> That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
> enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
> correct.
>
>  
>
> However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
> within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
> possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
> quality or value.
>
>  
>
> I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
> very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
> few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
> price is not always the differentiator.
>
>  
>
> While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
> years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
> better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
> class... :)
>
> And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>
>
>
> **ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
> **Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>
> LOL, +1
>
> Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
> more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
> concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
> what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
>  :-)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
> Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jonathan Link"  >
> Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>  >
>
> What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>   >> wrote:
>
> Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
>  A little.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
>
>
> Sent from my Motorola Droid
>
> On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
>   >> wrote:
> I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
> (Isn't that who makes OmniView?)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@e...
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Jonathan Link]

ROFLMAO!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

> "Latent racism?"
>
> If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
> with a multimedia footer appended to it.
>
> - Sean
>
>   On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins 
> wrote:
>
>> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>>
>>  - WJR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
 */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
 
 >
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
 * *

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
 jra...@eaglemds.com > wrote:

Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
_
jra...@eaglemds.com_
_www.eaglemds.com

  

*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
 
 >
**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
** **

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" >>>>
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>>>>

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>>>>> wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker <
 http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>


Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
 

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Sean Martin]

"Latent racism?"

If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
with a multimedia footer appended to it.

- Sean

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins wrote:

> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>
>  - WJR
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>
>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>
>>> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>>>
>>> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
>>> this week.  Didn't you notice?
>>>
>>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>> 
>>> >
>>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>>> * *
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>>> jra...@eaglemds.com > wrote:
>>>
>>>Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
>>>Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
>>>was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
>>>just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
>>>Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
>>>might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
>>>device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>>>
>>>
>>>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>>>
>>>
>>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>>Technology Coordinator
>>>Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
>>>_
>>>jra...@eaglemds.com_
>>>_www.eaglemds.com
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>>>]
>>>*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>>
>>>
>>>Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
>>>for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>>>
>>>
>>>That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
>>>enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
>>>correct.
>>>
>>>
>>>However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
>>>within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
>>>possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
>>>quality or value.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
>>>very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
>>>few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
>>>price is not always the differentiator.
>>>
>>>
>>>While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
>>>years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
>>>better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
>>>class... :)
>>>
>>>And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>> 
>>> >
>>>**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
>>>** **
>>>
>>>On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>>mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>LOL, +1
>>>
>>>Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
>>>more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
>>>concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
>>>what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>>
>>>Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
>>>Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>>
>>>- Reply message -
>>>From: "Jonathan Link" >>>
>>>Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>>>
>>>Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>>>
>>>To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>>>
>>>On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
>>> A little.
>>>
>>>-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker <
>>> http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sent from my Motorola Droid
>>>
>>>On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
>>>(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)
>>>
>

RE: IE9 beta

[Sam Cayze]

Dang.  Nice find!  Thanks :)

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE9 beta

On 16 Sep 2010 at 6:14, John Hornbuckle  wrote:

> Can this run alongside with the 32-bit version (that is, run 64-bit 
> Square in 64-bit IE and the regular 32-bit 10.1 in 32-bit IE)?

If it can't, you could set it up as the primary Internet Explorer and
then have your working IE in a VPC image for your real work.  MS even
makes preconfigured VPCs of different flavours of Internet Explorer
available for download here:

Download details: Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Image
"VPC Hard Disk Images for testing websites with different Internet 
Explorer versions on Windows XP and Windows Vista"
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958
F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2atkeqh

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Friday funny

[Sam Cayze]

You will break the Internet!

 

 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

 

Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

OpenDNS is a win-win imho.  Can anyone tell me otherwise?  Like Jonathan,
I've been using it religiously since the poisoning issues.  In my DNS
performance testing its always the fastest as well.

If you never have, test yours as well:

   http://code.google.com/p/namebench/

--
ME2


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> OpenDNS provides similar benefits...
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:27 AM, John Hornbuckle <
> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
>
>> Trying it now. Love the concept—let’s see if it helps.  :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:58 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
>>
>>
>>
>> Btw, we update the malware URLs of these rogues right into ClearCloud.
>>
>>
>>
>> Feel free to and the ClearCloud DNS server as a replacement to your
>> existing DNS:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://clearclouddns.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s still beta, but I think you’ll find it works quite well.  And it’s
>> free.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:55 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
>>
>>
>>
>> http://vipre.malwarebytes.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> Free.  And the combination really works.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:20 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
>>
>>
>>
>> The “Security Tools” malware is about to drive me insane. My users keep
>> managing to infect themselves with it, and we’re having trouble stopping it.
>>
>>
>>
>> They don’t run with admin rights, so there’s no real damage done to their
>> systems and we can clean it up in about two minutes. But the time adds up,
>> and I’m tired of my technicians having to waste time on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our antimalware software is Microsoft’s Forefront Client Security, and
>> it’s having a tough time catching this. Every time I get infected, I send
>> the EXE to Microsoft and they update their definitions—but the EXE’s used by
>> the malware apparently change rapidly, and seem to constantly be a step
>> ahead of FCS’s definitions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can think of a couple of options that I know would stop it, like
>> blocking all EXE’s at our web filter or using group policy to limit the
>> running of EXE’s—but this would also prevent users from doing things like
>> installing safe plug-ins from websites, so it’s not a first resort.
>>
>>
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Hornbuckle
>>
>> MIS Department
>>
>> Taylor County School District
>>
>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[William Robbins]

*Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.

 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries  wrote:

> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  animation,
> email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>
>
> Bill
>
> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>
>> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>>
>> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
>> this week.  Didn't you notice?
>>
>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>> * *
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>> jra...@eaglemds.com > wrote:
>>
>>Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
>>Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
>>was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
>>just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
>>Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
>>might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
>>device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>>
>>
>>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>>
>>
>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>Technology Coordinator
>>Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
>>_
>>jra...@eaglemds.com_
>>_www.eaglemds.com
>>
>>  
>>
>>*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>>]
>>*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>>
>>
>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>
>>Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
>>for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>>
>>
>>That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
>>enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
>>correct.
>>
>>
>>However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
>>within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
>>possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
>>quality or value.
>>
>>
>>I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
>>very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
>>few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
>>price is not always the differentiator.
>>
>>
>>While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
>>years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
>>better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
>>class... :)
>>
>>And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>>
>>
>>
>>**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
>>** **
>>
>>On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>
>>LOL, +1
>>
>>Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
>>more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
>>concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
>>what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
>> :-)
>>
>>Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>>Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
>>Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>
>>- Reply message -
>>From: "Jonathan Link" >>
>>Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>>
>>Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>>>>
>>
>>What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>>
>>On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
>> A little.
>>
>>-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
>>
>>
>>Sent from my Motorola Droid
>>
>>On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
>>>>>> wrote:
>>I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
>>(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)
>>
>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>Technology Coordinator
>>Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>>jra...@e...
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>
>>From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
>>>>]
>>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
>>To: NT System Admin Issues
>>Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...
>>
>>My reply

Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

> I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
> for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
> (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
> .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
> indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
> installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
> from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
> licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
> to run the clean-installed vhd as the "free" copy of XP, anything else and
> you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: iTunes

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 16 Sep 2010 at 21:01, Jon Harris  wrote:

> ^(*&^()&()* iTunes was required to get music 
> loaded on my daughters iPod.

Not true, I believe you can use SharePod to load iPods. (No personal 
experience, I don't own one.)

  SharePod
"Add and remove music, videos, playlists and artwork on your iPod."
  http://www.getsharepod.com/


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 16 Sep 2010 at 11:18, Alex Eckelberry  wrote:

> I have asked and they said they would put that up. 

Kewl ...

> -Original Message-
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:54 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware
> 
> On 15 Sep 2010 at 14:45, Alex Eckelberry  wrote:
> 
> > In my discussions with Malwarebytes, they have indicated that they are 
> > ok with the use of Malwarebytes in a commercial environment for a 
> > "one-time use to clean an infected system" -- at least as it regards 
> > the website vipre.malwarebytes.org.
> 
> Having that made explicit on the vipre.malwarebytes.org page would be a Good 
> Thing.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: IE9 beta

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 16 Sep 2010 at 6:14, John Hornbuckle  wrote:

> Can this run alongside with the 32-bit version (that is, run 64-bit Square in
> 64-bit IE and the regular 32-bit 10.1 in 32-bit IE)? 

If it can't, you could set it up as the primary Internet Explorer and then have 
your working IE in a VPC image for your real work.  MS even makes preconfigured 
VPCs of different flavours of Internet Explorer available for download here:

Download details: Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Image
"VPC Hard Disk Images for testing websites with different Internet 
Explorer versions on Windows XP and Windows Vista"
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2atkeqh

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 16 Sep 2010 at 6:27, John Hornbuckle  wrote:

> What happens is that they go to some website that pops up a browser
> window that´s designed to look like the window of an antivirus app. They
> actually do a pretty good job-it can fool the average user easily. Anyhow,
> the animation in the window tells them they´re infected and to "click here"
> to clean the virus, and when they click there it downloads an EXE that
> plants the malware on their system. 

Most of these popups are hard-coded to look like the standard XP theme, so one 
of the simplest techniques to fight these malware popups is to change your XP 
theme from the standard XP theme to Windows Classic.  I use that theme whenever 
I log in with an Admin-level account, it reminds me that I'm an administrator.


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-895-3270
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT: Friday funny

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

--
ME2


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Friday funny

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

You mean it didn’t say, “About ∞ results (0.01 seconds)”?



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday funny

“About 1,380,000,000 results (0.18 seconds)” is what I’m getting.

SJ
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Nothin unusual.

-sc

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin



--
Stefan Jafs

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to 
listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL 
and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, 
disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may 
contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is 
intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as 
recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this 
message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from 
your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not 
disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it 
contains.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

[Bill Humphries]

Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.



Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:

*/>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week 
special this week.  Didn't you notice?


*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:


Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.

 


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

 


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
_
jra...@eaglemds.com_
_www.eaglemds.com


*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation

 


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.

 


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.

 


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.

 


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.

 


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
** **

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: "NT System Admin Issues"
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>> wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
>]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the
Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -

From: "Matthew W. Ross" mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>>
To: "NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not r

Re: Friday funny

[Stefan Jafs]

“About 1,380,000,000 results (0.18 seconds)” is what I’m getting.

SJ

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  Nothin unusual.
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Friday funny
>
>
>
> Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>



-- 
Stefan Jafs

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Friday funny

[Erik Goldoff]

Trying to skew the Google search statistics ??? 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

 

Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

[Stephen Wimberly]

I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
wild!



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Interesting—I don’t think I’ve heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
> check that setting as we don’t have a widespread deployment yet (but it’s
> coming soon!).  Thanks!
>
>
>
> -B
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
>
>
> it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
> Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts
>
> On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin  wrote:
>
> It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
> drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
> application.
>
> I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!
>
>
>
> On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. 
> wrote:
>
> +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
> group in combo.  James—can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
> restrictions?  I don’t think we have that set and I’m wondering what the
> issue is/was.
>
>
>
> For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
> applied for this all to work.
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO
>
>
>
> Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
> Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set
> the default printer through that, and target it to the required users.
>
> Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
> it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
> a suitable one installed.
>
> On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
>     Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
> GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
> and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
> BUT you can’t set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
> the printers to the user, then use ‘item-level targeting’ so it applies only
> when users logon to computers in certain OU’s.   Is there a better way to
> skin this cat?
>
>
>
> Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
> printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?
>
>
>
> Thanks all!!
>
>
>
> *
> John C. Kelsey
> DuBois Regional Medical Center
> (:  814.375.3073
> 2  :   814.375.4005
> *:   jckel...@drmc.org
> *
>
>
>
>
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended
> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
> If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager.
> This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the
> individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not
> disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to ap

RE: Friday funny

[Maglinger, Paul]

Unless that was the point.

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday funny

 

Nothin unusual.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

 

Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

RE: Friday funny

[Steven M. Caesare]

Nothin unusual.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

 

Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

 

Shook

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

OT: Friday funny

[Andy Shook]

Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here: 
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

OT: Day in the life of a sysadmin

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Really long, and probably been posted here before, but it eerily reminds me of 
someone I know...sound familiar to anyone else? (copied from 
http://www.yuksrus.com/computers_sysadmin.html)


The life of a sysadmin goes approximately as follows.

8am: Your pager goes off and wakes you up. The message says it's the
office, and it's a crisis. You roll out of bed moaning.

8:15am: You are now sufficiently awake to phone the office. Your pager
has gone off three times already. You get through to the office and the
receptionist is frantic. She says nobody in the entire office can print
and they have a major proposal that has to be faxed out before 9am and
if it isn't the company could lose a million dollars in new business.
You try to get her to explain what's wrong, but she's incoherent.

8:30am: You're dressed in yesterday's dirty clothes (they were all you
could find in time) and running out the door, sipping a Jolt cola and
hailing a cab to the office.

8:45am: You arrive at the office.

8:46am: You determine that the problem is that the printer is turned
off, and you turn it back on. 10,000 pages spew out from the hundreds of
multiple failed attempts by all of your coworkers to print.

8:47am: Your boss reams you out for "not having fixed that printer
problem last time when you said it was all taken care of. You spend the
next hour explaining that there's nothing you can do to stop people from
turning off the printer if they *really* want to. You don't bother to
mention that you happen to know that the person who did it is your
boss's spouse.

9:45ish: You finally convince your boss to release you and make your way
to your office, assaulted all along the way by people demanding that you
must help them fix things right now that you know are going to take
weeks and really aren't priority.

10am: You finally arrive at your office and shut and lock the door to
keep out the users. You start to read the 40 or so email messages you
find waiting every morning, which include about 5 new requests, 34 or so
messages demanding to know why such and such hasn't gotten done yet, and
one message from your boss denying your request to have an assistant and
demanding that you justify how you spend your time yet again.

10:30am: You realize that you're never going to finish getting through
your email if you keep getting interrupted by these damned telephone
calls from the same people who sent you the email asking the same
questions, so you put your phone on do-not-disturb and go back to your
email.

11am: You've just finished responding to all of your email, including
the umpteen millionth justification of your existence for your boss.
Unfortunately, the secretary has figured out how to order the phone
system to override your do-not-disturb on your phone, and is now routing
all the angry phone calls from your coworkers to you.

11:30am: You finish talking to everyone on the phone and calming them
down.

11:30am-4:30pm: You work your ass off on whatever projects have the most
urgency to the company. Usually this involves a lot of work with
software, crawling around on the floor several times, tearing a hole in
your clothing, and banging your head (hard) on the bottom of a desk.

3pm: You have your lunch delivered to your office.

4:30pm: You finally get to touch your lunch, and realize that Burger
King french fries do not taste good cold. You're on about your 15th coke
since arriving in the office.

4:35pm: Your lunch is over. You're not finished eating, but your boss
has just phoned you (he knows how to override the DND on the phone too)
and demanded that you drop everything and go fix some asinine problem
which you know is caused by the user and which you fix every week and
which you have warned the user about but about which they just don't
listen.

6:30pm: You finish the project your boss set you to and decide to try to
sneak out of the office and go home. (Not that you have a social life or
anything, but you haven't had 8 hours sleep in a month and a half.) In
the elevator on the way out of the office you encounter a coworker, who
grabs you by the ear and drags you back to the office to fix something
that's bugging them.

6:30pm-8pm: Somehow, despite repeated attempts to leave, the moment you
try to actually do so, someone else appears to force you to work.

8pm: You're about to depart when you're suddenly informed that there's
some vitally urgent data processing that has to be done and that only
you know how to do and which can't be performed until all of the data
entry people have left for the night at 10pm.

8pm-10pm: You try to nap in your office but the phone keeps ringing so
you finally give up and put in several more hours of working.

10pm: You try to do your data processing but can't because there are
still people logged into the data acquisition system. You spend the next
fifteen minutes running around begging them to log out, and they reply
that "yeah, I'll be out in a minute..."

10:20pm: You get sick of wait

Re: OT KVM recommondation

[Andrew S. Baker]

*>>**On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!*

You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special this
week.  Didn't you notice?

*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You
> hit the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very
> brief post. Someone saying, “I just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt
> cheap option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some
> applications, it might be fine, but it all depends on the application of
> said device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>
>
>
> On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *
> jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>   --
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.
>  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>
>
>
> That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from
> the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.
>
>
>
> However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within
> the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost
> alone to be insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.
>
>
>
> I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest
> end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that
> consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the
> differentiator.
>
>
>
> While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago,
> Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But
> they were in the same enterprise level class... :)
>
> And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> LOL, +1
>
> Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than
> 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the
> area of KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open
> to evidence supporting the contrary.  :-)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jonathan Link" 
> Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker  > wrote:
>
> Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
> little.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
>
>
> Sent from my Motorola Droid
>
> On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  > wrote:
> I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
> who makes OmniView?)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@e...
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com >]
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...
>
> My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
> you must have thought I wa...
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Matthew W. Ross"  mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
> To: "NT System Admin...
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
>
> [mailto:clusterp...
>
> Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
>
> 11:31:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
> >
> >
>
> > - Original Message -
>
> > From: "Matthew W. Ross"  mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
> > To: "NT System...
>
> >
> 
> > >
> > > Any medic...
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> htt

RE: OT KVM recommondation

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

I never saw anyswitchthread

Oh, the light just came on...

There, that's better...


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

You haven't been following the Switch opinions thread?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You hit 
the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very brief 
post. Someone saying, "I just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap 
option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?" Well for some applications, it 
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said device and how 
much frustration you're willing to live with.

On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.  Across 
classes, as opposed to within the class.

That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from the 
ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within the 
tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost alone to be 
insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest end 
of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that 
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the 
differentiator.

While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago, 
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But they 
were in the same enterprise level class... :)
And I still greatly prefer Avocent.


ASB (My XeeSM Profile)
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 or 
4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.
-ASB: 
http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

Sent from my Motorola Droid
On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>>
 wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr 
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>>
To: "NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:clusterp..>..

Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


> Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
>
>

> -