[OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE

[Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss]

Today I managed finally to test MATE. It is actually a GNOME desktop
but it seems to me it is far more efficient. I think it was a wise 

idea to replace GNOME 2 with MATE! 

 
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE feedback

[Aurélien Larcher]

Hi,
I just wanted to congratulate Till, Ken and Alexander for their
amazing work on MATE.
On my workstation I replaced Gnome with MATE and use it together with Compiz.
The experience is very smooth and MATE brings some usability
improvements over Gnome tools (e.g. ability to set the primary
monitor).
The one tiny issue that I can report for now is the lack of cpu stats
in mate-system-monitor.
Thank you again.

Aurélien

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE

[Jerry Kemp]

I would 2nd that request.

...unless...

we can get OpenWindows back.

Jerry




On 09/ 1/16 08:42 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote:



Today I managed finally to test MATE. It is actually a GNOME desktop
but it seems to me it is far more efficient. I think it was a wise

idea to replace GNOME 2 with MATE!


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE

[Alan Coopersmith]

On 09/ 1/16 08:50 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote:

...unless...
we can get OpenWindows back.

That would be highly unlikely.

-alan-

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE

[Jerry Kemp]

I'm certain that it is.

Regardless, it can't hurt to ask.



On 09/ 1/16 10:52 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 09/ 1/16 08:50 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote:

...unless...
we can get OpenWindows back.





That would be highly unlikely.

 -alan-

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE

[Alex Smith (K4RNT)]

I really like MATE, it ranks among Xfce along my favorite desktop
environments. I especially like how lightweight it is. Great for recovery
environments.

" 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the
first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all
damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
episode "The Drumhead"
- Alex Smith
- Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Jerry Kemp  wrote:

> I'm certain that it is.
>
> Regardless, it can't hurt to ask.
>
>
>
>
> On 09/ 1/16 10:52 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>
>> On 09/ 1/16 08:50 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote:
>>
>>> ...unless...
>>> we can get OpenWindows back.
>>>
>>
>
>
> That would be highly unlikely.
>>
>>  -alan-
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate 1.18

[russell]

Hi,

I created a new BE for the latest version of OI Hipster with Mate 1.18. 
Unfortunately when I login their are repeated messages indicating that 
there is a problem with the waste basket.


When I opened a Terminal, the terminal appears in the upper left corner 
but their are no window decorations (so it is not possible to resize, 
move or close the window using the mouse). If I open firefox it has the 
same problem so I have activated the previous BE and destroyed the Mate 
1.18 environment.


Regards

Russell


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate 1.18.0

[russell]

Hi,

After updating again and recreating the BE I logged in to Mate 1.18.0 
and changed the default Theme to TraditionalOK which did resolve the 
Window decoration issue, so that minimising/maximising/closing buttons 
were displayed.


I looked at the other settings on the Appearance Preferences, the Theme, 
Background, Fonts and Interface Menu options are one continuous sequence 
of characters (there should be spacing between these words).


While it is possible to add and select different backgrounds, the other 
menus do not appear to function completely. In Fonts, it is possible to 
change the size of the Application, Document, Desktop, Windows Title and 
Fixed width font, the Rendering options can not be selected Monochrome, 
Best Contrast, Best Shapes and Subpixel Smoothing. Selecting Interface, 
none of the Menu options are available.


Checking the Theme selection it had reverted to Custom, changing this to 
TraditionalOK took two attempts before it would remain selected. After 
this Font and Interface selections would work correctly.


In terms of the Font menu, I changed all the default size to 9 for 
Application, Document, Desktop and Fixed Width Font, Window title font 
was changed to 10. I found that the large font reduced the amount of 
information on the screen and changing it made it look more like Mate 1.16.


Regards

Russell




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[OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-screensaver

[Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss]

I am interested to replace the xscreensaver with the mate-screensaver. Our 
Xscreensaver is quite old and the current will not work out of the box. On 
Xscreensaver the PAM code was patched to use BSM even so it supports Solaris.
mate-screensaver compiles on OI. 

mate-screensaver PAM code is reworked but I seems it will not work on Illumos. 
Solaris support seems to be removed.

Is anyone already working on this? Or has experience with the PAM setup for 
mate-screensaver?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE feedback

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/ 9/16 11:57 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote:

Hi,
I just wanted to congratulate Till, Ken and Alexander for their
amazing work on MATE.
On my workstation I replaced Gnome with MATE and use it together with Compiz.
The experience is very smooth and MATE brings some usability
improvements over Gnome tools (e.g. ability to set the primary
monitor).
The one tiny issue that I can report for now is the lack of cpu stats
in mate-system-monitor.
Thank you again.



And I wanted to finish with lightdm before announcing MATE :)
BTW, MATE package set looks like

desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
desktop/mate/caja
desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
desktop/mate/marco
desktop/mate/mate-applets
desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
desktop/mate/mate-system-log
desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
desktop/mate/mate-calc
desktop/mate/control-center
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
desktop/mate/mate-media
desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
desktop/mate/mate-panel
desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
terminal/mate-terminal
desktop/mate/mate-themes
desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
editor/pluma
image/viewer/eom
library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE feedback

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Alexander Pyhalov  wrote:
> On 08/ 9/16 11:57 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I just wanted to congratulate Till, Ken and Alexander for their
>> amazing work on MATE.
>> On my workstation I replaced Gnome with MATE and use it together with
>> Compiz.
>> The experience is very smooth and MATE brings some usability
>> improvements over Gnome tools (e.g. ability to set the primary
>> monitor).
>> The one tiny issue that I can report for now is the lack of cpu stats
>> in mate-system-monitor.
>> Thank you again.
>
>
>
> And I wanted to finish with lightdm before announcing MATE :)

Sorry about that ;) at least I did some preview testing ;)

> BTW, MATE package set looks like
>
> desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
> desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
> desktop/mate/caja
> desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
> desktop/mate/marco
> desktop/mate/mate-applets
> desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
> desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
> desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
> desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
> desktop/mate/mate-system-log
> desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
> desktop/mate/mate-calc
> desktop/mate/control-center
> desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
> desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
> desktop/mate/mate-media
> desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
> desktop/mate/mate-panel
> desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
> desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
> terminal/mate-terminal
> desktop/mate/mate-themes
> desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
> desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
> desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
> editor/pluma
> image/viewer/eom
> library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop

I installed everything listed on the Wiki page:

https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.14+Desktop

Should we have a 'mate' meta-package?

Best regards

Aurélien

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE feedback

[Andreas Wacknitz]

Am 11.08.16 um 17:37 schrieb Aurélien Larcher:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Alexander Pyhalov  wrote:

[ stuff deleted ]



And I wanted to finish with lightdm before announcing MATE :)

Sorry about that ;) at least I did some preview testing ;)


BTW, MATE package set looks like

desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
desktop/mate/caja
desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
desktop/mate/marco
desktop/mate/mate-applets
desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
desktop/mate/mate-system-log
desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
desktop/mate/mate-calc
desktop/mate/control-center
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
desktop/mate/mate-media
desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
desktop/mate/mate-panel
desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
terminal/mate-terminal
desktop/mate/mate-themes
desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
editor/pluma
image/viewer/eom
library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop

I installed everything listed on the Wiki page:

https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.14+Desktop

Should we have a 'mate' meta-package?


yes, please :-)


Regards
Andreas


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE feedback

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/11/16 07:44 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:

Am 11.08.16 um 17:37 schrieb Aurélien Larcher:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Alexander Pyhalov  wrote:

[ stuff deleted ]



And I wanted to finish with lightdm before announcing MATE :)

Sorry about that ;) at least I did some preview testing ;)


BTW, MATE package set looks like

desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
desktop/mate/caja
desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
desktop/mate/marco
desktop/mate/mate-applets
desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
desktop/mate/mate-system-log
desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
desktop/mate/mate-calc
desktop/mate/control-center
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
desktop/mate/mate-media
desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
desktop/mate/mate-panel
desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
terminal/mate-terminal
desktop/mate/mate-themes
desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
editor/pluma
image/viewer/eom
library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop

I installed everything listed on the Wiki page:

https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.14+Desktop

Should we have a 'mate' meta-package?


yes, please :-)


I have mate-install meta-package (like gui_install), which in theory can 
be used to create MATE iso image. But it's in theory. On practice it's 
not so good, as it delivers broken gdm after installation. So, I didn't 
publish it. I hope I'll do it after finishing with lightdm.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE feedback

[Private openbabel]

I was wondering if you could use cairo dock or similar with mate ?


Robert Jones


On 11/08/2016 17:48, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/11/16 07:44 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:

Am 11.08.16 um 17:37 schrieb Aurélien Larcher:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Alexander Pyhalov  wrote:

[ stuff deleted ]



And I wanted to finish with lightdm before announcing MATE :)

Sorry about that ;) at least I did some preview testing ;)


BTW, MATE package set looks like

desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
desktop/mate/caja
desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
desktop/mate/marco
desktop/mate/mate-applets
desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
desktop/mate/mate-system-log
desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
desktop/mate/mate-calc
desktop/mate/control-center
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
desktop/mate/mate-media
desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
desktop/mate/mate-panel
desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
terminal/mate-terminal
desktop/mate/mate-themes
desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
editor/pluma
image/viewer/eom
library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop

I installed everything listed on the Wiki page:

https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.14+Desktop

Should we have a 'mate' meta-package?


yes, please :-)


I have mate-install meta-package (like gui_install), which in theory 
can be used to create MATE iso image. But it's in theory. On practice 
it's not so good, as it delivers broken gdm after installation. So, I 
didn't publish it. I hope I'll do it after finishing with lightdm.





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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate 1.18

[Predrag Zečević]

Am 04.06.17 um 16:22 schrieb russell:

Hi,

I created a new BE for the latest version of OI Hipster with Mate 1.18. 
Unfortunately when I login their are repeated messages indicating that 
there is a problem with the waste basket.



Hi,
I would try to remove it...

When I opened a Terminal, the terminal appears in the upper left corner 
but their are no window decorations (so it is not possible to resize, 
move or close the window using the mouse). If I open firefox it has the 
same problem so I have activated the previous BE and destroyed the Mate 
1.18 environment.


Had same problem with MATE 1.16 and changing theme has fixed it (I guess 
reverting to nimbus theme - was some custom - did a job).


HTH

Regrads


Regards

Russell


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] mate desktop 1.22

[openbabel]

Dear All,

The mate 1.22 new desktop is now available for download. Would it be 
straightforward to download and attempt to update it myself or are there 
too many dependencies to attempt this as a non developer ?



Regards


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] mate release 1.24

[bscuk2]

Mate desktop version 1.24 has been released with a number of updates 
2020-02-10 09:00. 


Is this likely to be something to be included in the next snapshot ?

Regards,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-screensaver

[Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss]

I could to manage to build the mate-screensaver for OI. I use the PAM-helper 
style for lock-unlock the screen. In this kind the seteuid nightmare for check 
password is somewhat mitigated. Only the pwd-helper has to set the setuid bit. 
   

Who like to test this build can find the package on: http://pkg.toc.de/userland



pkg set-publisher -g http://pkg.toc.de/userland openindiana.org

pkg install mate-screensaver



recipe: 
https://github.com/cgrzemba/oi-userland/tree/mate-screensaver/components/desktop/mate/mate-screensaver

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate Desktop - no audio

[russell]

Hi,

Now I have a working Mate desktop started looking at audio and found no 
audio devices, my USB Web Camera is also not detected.
When I use Multimedia Systems Selector the webcam is not available 
neither are the pulseaudio devices while both are available in Gnome 
desktop.


Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] 
module-device-restore.c: Failed to open volume database 
'/home/russell/.config/pulse/ce41a7037b30eebdefda138d00f5-device-volumes': 
I/O error
Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] 
module.c: Failed to load module "module-device-restore" (argument: ""): 
initialization failed.
Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] 
main.c: Module load failed.
Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] 
main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1235]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] 
main.c: Daemon startup failed.
Jan 19 21:20:12 tesla pulseaudio[1270]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)] 
pid.c: Daemon already running.


Regards

Russell


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate 1.18 preliminary testing

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Hello.

I've been working on Mate update to 1.18 since Monday.
So far I'm close to finish, but there are some issues.
The most irritating is issues with our nimbus GTK3 version.
The two issues I've noticed:
1) menus (for example, mate panel menus) have bold black frames;
2) most controllers always have some frames, they earlier didn't (for 
example, buttons in caja menu).


So far I've fixed patch for time-slider integration (while testing it, 
discovered https://www.illumos.org/issues/8273) and ported other 
customizations, which we had.

Further testing would be appreciated (as well, as help with nimbus theme).

You can test new Mate by updating to the latest /hipster and installing 
the following packages from
http://buildzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000/ userland repository (note, new 
bash is required as packages got dependency on bash 4.4.12, which is not 
yet in official openindiana.org repository).


pkg://userland/shell/bash
pkg://userland/library/desktop/mate/mate-common@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170522T133453Z 


pkg://userland/library/desktop/mate/libmatekbd@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170522T134916Z
pkg://userland/library/desktop/mate/libmatemixer@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170522T140832Z
pkg://userland/library/desktop/mate/libmateweather@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170522T143555Z
pkg://userland/library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170523T082940Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/caja@1.18.3-2017.0.0.0:20170526T091959Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170523T113349Z
pkg://userland/desktop/pdf-viewer/atril@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170523T111849Z
pkg://userland/desktop/archive-manager/engrampa@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170523T114651Z
pkg://userland/image/viewer/eom@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170523T120650Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/marco@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170523T141938Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-panel@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170523T145823Z
pkg://userland/desktop/character-map/gucharmap@3.18.2,5.11-2017.0.0.0:20170525T130503Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-applets@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170523T162211Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170523T164825Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-calc@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170523T170357Z
pkg://userland/library/desktop/mate/mate-menus@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170524T055528Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170524T061926Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/control-center@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170524T065252Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170524T093413Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170524T100145Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-media@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170524T145831Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170524T151612Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-session-manager@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170524T155759Z
pkg://userland/desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170524T162241Z
pkg://userland/terminal/mate-terminal@1.18.1-2017.0.0.0:20170524T175034Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-themes@3.20.20-2017.0.0.0:20170524T193521Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-user-guide@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170524T195559Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-dictionary@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170524T201659Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170524T201701Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-screenshot@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170524T201703Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-search-tool@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170524T201707Z
pkg://userland/desktop/mate/mate-system-log@1.18.2-2017.0.0.0:20170524T201705Z
pkg://userland/desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo@1.18.0-2017.0.0.0:20170525T101712Z
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate desktop 1.22

[Till Wegmüller]

Hi

It would be best if you contribute to the Packaging effort already going on.

That would allow you to use our existing Infrastructure to do all the
dependency handling and share any Work you do.

See
- https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4908
- https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4909
- https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4910
- https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4911
- https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4912
- https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4913
- https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4926

Michal Novak and Alexander are working hard to get it into 2019.04 Snapshot.

Greetings
Till

On 15.04.19 15:29, openbabel wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> The mate 1.22 new desktop is now available for download. Would it be
> straightforward to download and attempt to update it myself or are there
> too many dependencies to attempt this as a non developer ?
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Robert Jones
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate release 1.24

[Michal Nowak via openindiana-discuss]

On 27/02/2020 18:00, bscuk2 wrote:
Mate desktop version 1.24 has been released with a number of updates 
2020-02-10 09:00. 


Is this likely to be something to be included in the next snapshot ?

Regards,

Robert Jones



Hi.

It's being worked on. Current progress here: 
https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+mate+1.24.


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate constrains window size

[Gary Mills]

I just updated a system from hipster-20180701 to hipster-20200802 .  I
assume it changed from gnome to mate in the update.  Almost everything
worked afterwards.  I was quite impressed.

One thing that fails to work now is the window size for emacs.  Emacs
is the only text editor that I use.  The size now is 63 x 31.  I know
I can resize it by pulling on the window frame with my mouse, but I'd
like it to start out at 80 x 36.  This used to happen with gnome when
I added these lines to my .emacs file:

(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 36))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 80))

I've tried many things.  I tried the command-line option -geometry,
setting geometry in my .Xdefaults, and adding this line to my .emacs
file:

(when window-system (set-frame-size (selected-frame) 80 36))

All of these attempts have failed.  I conclude that the mate window
manager is constraining the window size.  Is there some way I can tell
the window manager to set the default size the way I want it?


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate does not start

[Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss]

Today for some reason my systemstopped functioning. I rebooted thesystem 
manually by pressing therestart button. It rebooted but itnever started mate. 
The loginscreen was there, I could logginbut that was all. Used the 
virtualterminals and I managed to see amessage that .config/dconf/userwas 
non-writable.  I deleted the filebut this did not help. I deleted thewhole 
.config folder but this did nothelp. I scrubbed the disk and noerrors were 
found. Now I enter myusername & password, the systemaccepts it but it returns 
again to thelogin screen! Any ideas what mightbe wrong?
Regards,
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] mate desktop 1.25 release

[bscuk2]

Dear All,

I was wondering if we should expect a new version of the mate desktop 
1.25 sometime soon. This is about the right time of year all be it it 
probably experienced a time delay due to CV19. I noted some snippets 
labelled 1.25 for developers?


Has anyone a idea about the version schedule this year ?

Regards,


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Matthew Yapit]

I recently updated to 2022.10 and I've noticed that mate-system-monitor 
causes a core instead of launching.  Has anyone else seen this?  Is 
there a fix or one coming in the next update?



Thanks!

irixuzer


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate clock applet gone

[Stephan Althaus]

Hello!

First of all, thanks for all the recent wecome updates on the 
OpenIndiana distribution, it's really a great OS !!


I was most impressed by the speedup of libreoffice while scrolling 
through calc tables.. was that a switch from GTK* to QT ?



Now to the topic, nothing really severe..

Since some time (few weeks), i had the mate clock applet seen crashing 
and could reload it by pressing a button on the appearing dialog box.


Now it seems, the clock applet does not load anymore.. (and the mate 
panel takes a second more to load than previously, it appears after the 
background and desktop contents..


Anyone else seeing this ?

Where can i find the error messages regarding mate applets on OI ?

Can an applet be load by command line to get the messages on the command 
line ?



Regards,

Stephan


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

[ken mays via openindiana-discuss]

Hello,
The MATE 1.14 Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2. It provides 
an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for 
Linux and other Unix-like operating systems.
MATE Desktop Environment

http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2016-04-08-mate-1-14-released/
About MATE: 
http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2014-02-07-stefano-presents-mate-at-fosdem/
Ref: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.14+Desktop
Contributed OpenIndiana MATE 1.14 Binaries: 
http://dlc.openindiana.org/mate-desktop/oi-mate-1.14-desktop-kmays_20160505.tar.xz
Mainly for testing and development. Comes with all the bells and whistles...

Enjoy!,Ken
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate Desktop - no audio

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:34 PM, russell 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Now I have a working Mate desktop started looking at audio and found no
> audio devices, my USB Web Camera is also not detected.
> When I use Multimedia Systems Selector the webcam is not available neither
> are the pulseaudio devices while both are available in Gnome desktop.
>
> Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> module-device-restore.c: Failed to open volume database
> '/home/russell/.config/pulse/ce41a7037b30eebdefda138d00f5-device-volumes':
> I/O error
> Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> module.c: Failed to load module "module-device-restore" (argument: ""):
> initialization failed.
> Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> main.c: Module load failed.
> Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1248]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
> Jan 19 21:20:11 tesla pulseaudio[1235]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> main.c: Daemon startup failed.
> Jan 19 21:20:12 tesla pulseaudio[1270]: [ID 295310 user.error] [(null)]
> pid.c: Daemon already running.
>

The volume manager in MATE does not give you access to the controls like
the GNOME utilities as they seemed to have removed some bits related to OSS.

Check if your devices are detected by Boomer/OSS using 'audioctl' to list
them.

Then considering the error message regarding the I/O error, determine what
is wrong with the file.
When upgrading Pulseaudio I found several time that it was unable to read
the previous config, in each case I simply removed everything in
.config/pulse as indicated by forums.

It seems that the daemon was already running: try to kill all pulse
processes, remove the config and start fresh.


>
> Regards
>
> Russell
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate constrains window size

[Andreas Wacknitz]

Am 04.08.20 um 02:09 schrieb Gary Mills:

I just updated a system from hipster-20180701 to hipster-20200802 .  I
assume it changed from gnome to mate in the update.  Almost everything
worked afterwards.  I was quite impressed.

One thing that fails to work now is the window size for emacs.  Emacs
is the only text editor that I use.  The size now is 63 x 31.  I know
I can resize it by pulling on the window frame with my mouse, but I'd
like it to start out at 80 x 36.  This used to happen with gnome when
I added these lines to my .emacs file:

 (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 36))
 (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 80))

I've tried many things.  I tried the command-line option -geometry,
setting geometry in my .Xdefaults, and adding this line to my .emacs
file:

 (when window-system (set-frame-size (selected-frame) 80 36))

All of these attempts have failed.  I conclude that the mate window
manager is constraining the window size.  Is there some way I can tell
the window manager to set the default size the way I want it?



Hi Gary,

I am also using emacs quite heavily and I can definitely say that
resizing emacs' frame works for me on OI.
This is my variant for resizing the frame:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun set-frame-size-according-to-resolution ()
  (interactive)
  (if window-system
  (progn
    (if (> (x-display-pixel-width) 1280)
    (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist (cons 'width 120))
  (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist (cons 'width 80)))
    (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist
 (cons 'height (min 38 (/ (-
(x-display-pixel-height) 320)
(frame-char-height
(set-frame-size-according-to-resolution)
#+end_src

So it must be your configuration that prevents the resizing.

Regards,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate constrains window size

[Gary Mills]

On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 08:02:23AM +0200, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
> 
> I am also using emacs quite heavily and I can definitely say that
> resizing emacs' frame works for me on OI.

I'm happy to meet another emacs user.  Of course, this problem may not
be specific to emacs.  Does Mate have a default window size?  Does
emacs appear in the Applications/Programming menu on your desktop,
like it does in mine?  Does emacs have a blue-grey background?

> So it must be your configuration that prevents the resizing.

That was my conclusion, and also my question.  Maybe this behavior is
caused by something left over from the Gnome desktop.  Where should I
look?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate constrains window size

[Andreas Wacknitz]

Am 04.08.20 um 15:26 schrieb Gary Mills:

On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 08:02:23AM +0200, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:

I am also using emacs quite heavily and I can definitely say that
resizing emacs' frame works for me on OI.

I'm happy to meet another emacs user.  Of course, this problem may not
be specific to emacs.  Does Mate have a default window size?  Does
emacs appear in the Applications/Programming menu on your desktop,
like it does in mine?  Does emacs have a blue-grey background?


So it must be your configuration that prevents the resizing.

That was my conclusion, and also my question.  Maybe this behavior is
caused by something left over from the Gnome desktop.  Where should I
look?



I'd check .Xresources and .Xdefaults first for any geometry settings.
Then maybe there is something beneath .config/, perhaps marco has some
geometry settings stored for emacs sessions.

It might also be your emacs configuration, check if you haven't multiple
settings and also make sure your code is really executed.

You can try this:
Enter the following line in a buffer (eg. scratch), position the cursor
at the end:
(setq default-frame-alist '((left . 0) (top . 0) (width . 80) (height .
30)))

Then press C-x X-e (eval-last-sexp) followed by C-x 5 2
(make-frame-command). This should open a new frame with the given width
and height.

Alternatively, you can change the actual frame:
(set-frame-width (selected-frame) 80)
(set-frame-height (selected-frame) 30)
and press C-x C-e (for each line).

Regards,
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate constrains window size

[Gary Mills]

On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 09:37:11PM +0200, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
> 
> I'd check .Xresources and .Xdefaults first for any geometry settings.

I don't have either of those files.  From what I've read, the first
step in debugging is to run emacs without the .emacs file.  I did this
with:

$ emacs --no-init-file

The editing area changed from 63x31 to 79x35, much closer to what I
wanted.  Emacs also had a smaller font but a brighter background.
The conclusion is inescapable: something in my .emacs file was making
those changes.  I removed these lines:

(custom-set-variables
  ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
  ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
  ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
  ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
 )
(custom-set-faces
  ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
  ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
  ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
  ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
 '(default ((t (:inherit nil :stipple nil :background "#AE00B200C300" 
:foreground "#" :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil 
:overline nil :underline nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 120 :width 
normal :foundry "unknown" :family "DejaVu Sans Mono")

After that, the screen looked the same as with --no-init-file .  I
suspect that what I'm seeing now are built-in emacs defaults.  This is
a great improvement.

> Then maybe there is something beneath .config/, perhaps marco has some
> geometry settings stored for emacs sessions.

There are many things below .config .  The ones from August will be
after the update.  The ones from 2017 and 2018 will be from my previous
OI version.  The ones from 2010 will be from an even older version:

drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  3 Aug  5 07:34 dconf
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  5 Aug  4 20:46 caja
-rw-r--r--   1 millsstaff   1613 Aug  3 08:27 mimeapps.list
drwx--   3 millsroot   6 Aug  2 19:29 menus
drwx--   2 millsother  3 Jul 13 13:12 gtk-2.0
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  3 Sep  3  2018 libreoffice
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  3 Jul 28  2018 mate-session
drwx--   3 millsstaff  3 Jul 10  2018 mate
drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  2 Jul  7  2018 yelp
drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  3 Jul  3  2018 gtk-3.0
drwx--   2 millsstaff  3 Jul  3  2018 pulse
drwx--   2 millsstaff  3 Apr  1  2018 brasero
drwx--   2 millsstaff  3 Dec 14  2017 totem
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  3 Aug 22  2017 gnome-session
drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  5 Aug 22  2017 session-state
drwx--   3 millsstaff  3 Dec  3  2010 metacity
drwx--   2 millsstaff  4 Dec  3  2010 tracker
-rw-r--r--   1 millsstaff 11 Dec  3  2010 user-dirs.locale
-rw---   1 millsstaff672 Dec  3  2010 user-dirs.dirs

> You can try this:
> Enter the following line in a buffer (eg. scratch), position the cursor
> at the end:
> (setq default-frame-alist '((left . 0) (top . 0) (width . 80) (height .
> 30)))
> 
> Then press C-x X-e (eval-last-sexp) followed by C-x 5 2
> (make-frame-command). This should open a new frame with the given width
> and height.

That seemed to work.  Thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.

> Alternatively, you can change the actual frame:
> (set-frame-width (selected-frame) 80)
> (set-frame-height (selected-frame) 30)
> and press C-x C-e (for each line).

That works too.  In fact, by making them 81 and 37, I can enlarge the
screen to 80x36 like I want it.  When I put those two lines in my
.emacs file, nothing happens.  I assume they are not being executed.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate constrains window size

[Andreas Wacknitz]

Am 06.08.20 um 00:55 schrieb Gary Mills:

On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 09:37:11PM +0200, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:

I'd check .Xresources and .Xdefaults first for any geometry settings.

I don't have either of those files.  From what I've read, the first
step in debugging is to run emacs without the .emacs file.  I did this
with:

 $ emacs --no-init-file

The editing area changed from 63x31 to 79x35, much closer to what I
wanted.  Emacs also had a smaller font but a brighter background.
The conclusion is inescapable: something in my .emacs file was making
those changes.  I removed these lines:

(custom-set-variables
   ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
   ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
   ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
   ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
  )
(custom-set-faces
   ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
   ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
   ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
   ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
  '(default ((t (:inherit nil :stipple nil :background "#AE00B200C300" :foreground "#" 
:inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline nil :underline nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 120 
:width normal :foundry "unknown" :family "DejaVu Sans Mono")

After that, the screen looked the same as with --no-init-file .  I
suspect that what I'm seeing now are built-in emacs defaults.  This is
a great improvement.


Then maybe there is something beneath .config/, perhaps marco has some
geometry settings stored for emacs sessions.

There are many things below .config .  The ones from August will be
after the update.  The ones from 2017 and 2018 will be from my previous
OI version.  The ones from 2010 will be from an even older version:

drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  3 Aug  5 07:34 dconf
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  5 Aug  4 20:46 caja
-rw-r--r--   1 millsstaff   1613 Aug  3 08:27 mimeapps.list
drwx--   3 millsroot   6 Aug  2 19:29 menus
drwx--   2 millsother  3 Jul 13 13:12 gtk-2.0
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  3 Sep  3  2018 libreoffice
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  3 Jul 28  2018 mate-session
drwx--   3 millsstaff  3 Jul 10  2018 mate
drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  2 Jul  7  2018 yelp
drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  3 Jul  3  2018 gtk-3.0
drwx--   2 millsstaff  3 Jul  3  2018 pulse
drwx--   2 millsstaff  3 Apr  1  2018 brasero
drwx--   2 millsstaff  3 Dec 14  2017 totem
drwxr-xr-x   3 millsstaff  3 Aug 22  2017 gnome-session
drwxr-xr-x   2 millsstaff  5 Aug 22  2017 session-state
drwx--   3 millsstaff  3 Dec  3  2010 metacity
drwx--   2 millsstaff  4 Dec  3  2010 tracker
-rw-r--r--   1 millsstaff 11 Dec  3  2010 user-dirs.locale
-rw---   1 millsstaff672 Dec  3  2010 user-dirs.dirs


You can try this:
Enter the following line in a buffer (eg. scratch), position the cursor
at the end:
(setq default-frame-alist '((left . 0) (top . 0) (width . 80) (height .
30)))

Then press C-x X-e (eval-last-sexp) followed by C-x 5 2
(make-frame-command). This should open a new frame with the given width
and height.

That seemed to work.  Thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.


Alternatively, you can change the actual frame:
(set-frame-width (selected-frame) 80)
(set-frame-height (selected-frame) 30)
and press C-x C-e (for each line).

That works too.  In fact, by making them 81 and 37, I can enlarge the
screen to 80x36 like I want it.  When I put those two lines in my
.emacs file, nothing happens.  I assume they are not being executed.



Your code should work but  ~/.emacs is not the only possible init file.
Emacs looks for your init file using the filenames ~/.emacs,
~/.emacs.el, or ~/.emacs.d/init.el.
I suggest to make sure you have only one file and then create an .emacs
file with only
your two lines

(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 36))
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 80))


and see what happens. If it works you can add your other settings peu à peu.

Regards,
Andreas


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate constrains window size

[Gary Mills]

On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 04:53:34PM +0200, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:
> Your code should work but  ~/.emacs is not the only possible init file.
> Emacs looks for your init file using the filenames ~/.emacs,
> ~/.emacs.el, or ~/.emacs.d/init.el.

The only one I have is .emacs .

> I suggest to make sure you have only one file and then create an .emacs
> file with only
> your two lines
> 
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(height . 36))
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(width . 80))
> 
> and see what happens.

I tried that, and the same thing with the --no-init-file option.  The
two windows are identical, with 79x35 geometry.  By the way, I get
those numbers by a left mouse click on the border of the window.

When I change the values in .emacs to 37 and 81, I still get the 79x35
geometry.  Something is constraining the window size.  It's the smaller
font that allows the width to increase to 79.

When I press the Maximize Window button in the title bar, the geometry
does increase in both dimensions.  Maybe this is how Mate is supposed
to work.

> If it works you can add your other settings peu à peu.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate does not start

[John D Groenveld]

In message <2077784593.2417361.1616510986...@mail.yahoo.com>, Apostolos Syropou
los via openindiana-discuss writes:
>Today for some reason my systemstopped functioning. I rebooted thesystem manua
>lly by pressing therestart button. It rebooted but itnever started mate. The l
>oginscreen was there, I could logginbut that was all. Used the virtualterminal

Create a test user and confirm that it can log in with a virgin
home directory.

John
groenv...@acm.org

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate desktop 1.25 release

[Andreas Wacknitz]

Am 24.04.21 um 11:24 schrieb bscuk2:

Dear All,

I was wondering if we should expect a new version of the mate desktop
1.25 sometime soon. This is about the right time of year all be it it
probably experienced a time delay due to CV19. I noted some snippets
labelled 1.25 for developers?

Has anyone a idea about the version schedule this year ?

Regards,


Robert

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Mate uses even version numbers for stable releases. So the next Mate
version will be 1.26. You can check
https://repology.org/repository/openindiana for outdated package
versions for OpenIndiana. And if you want something updated a PR is
quite helpful.

Andreas

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Bill Sommerfeld]

On 2/7/23 13:01, Matthew Yapit wrote:
I recently updated to 2022.10 and I've noticed that mate-system-monitor 
causes a core instead of launching.  Has anyone else seen this?  Is 
there a fix or one coming in the next update?


It happens for me, too.   Based on the traceback in exception code, it 
likely needs to be rebuilt with gcc 10 given the lack of C++ ABI 
stability.   ldd shows a mix of libraries:


% ldd =mate-system-monitor  | grep gcc
libstdc++.so.6 =>/usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1
libstdc++.so.6 =>/usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Stephan Althaus]

On 2/7/23 22:11, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:

On 2/7/23 13:01, Matthew Yapit wrote:
I recently updated to 2022.10 and I've noticed that 
mate-system-monitor causes a core instead of launching.  Has anyone 
else seen this?  Is there a fix or one coming in the next update?


It happens for me, too.   Based on the traceback in exception code, it 
likely needs to be rebuilt with gcc 10 given the lack of C++ ABI 
stability.   ldd shows a mix of libraries:


% ldd =mate-system-monitor  | grep gcc
    libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
    libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1
    libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
    libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1


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Hello!

My version of mate-system-monitor shows only the gcc 7 libs,
but maybe you're right anyway..


$ ldd `which mate-system-monitor`  | grep gcc
    libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
    libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1

$ mate-system-monitor

...

(:4743): glibmm-CRITICAL **: 22:24:52.725:
unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler:
domain: g-io-error-quark
code  : 0
what  : Unable to find default local file monitor type

Segmentation Fault (core dumped)

$ pstack core
core 'core' of 4743:    mate-system-monitor
- thread# 1 / lwp# 1 -
 7fffaeb69d0b g_type_check_instance_cast () + 1b
 0044977a 
_ZN10ProcmanApp15on_command_lineERKN4Glib6RefPtrIN3Gio22ApplicationCommandLineEEE 
() + 11a
 7fff6e3c09b9 
_ZN3Gio17Application_Class21command_line_callbackEP13_GApplicationP24_GApplicationCommandLine 
() + 149

 7fffae841496 _g_cclosure_marshal_INT__OBJECTv () + 76
 7fffaeb3af95 _g_closure_invoke_va () + 185
 7fffaeb5af6d g_signal_emit_valist () + 39d
 7fffaeb5c05d g_signal_emit () + 7d
 7fffae8a032a g_application_call_command_line () + 7a
 7fffae8a26b1 g_application_real_local_command_line () + 241
 7fff6e3bf4f4 _ZN3Gio11Application24local_command_line_vfuncERPPcRi 
() + 54
 7fff6e3c05cb 
_ZN3Gio17Application_Class33local_command_line_vfunc_callbackEP13_GApplicationPPPcPi 
() + 10b

 7fffae8a2845 g_application_run () + 155
 00422b4e main () + 5e
 00421e07 _start_crt () + 87
 00421d68 _start () + 18
...


Regards,

Stephan


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Stephan Althaus]

On 2/7/23 22:29, Stephan Althaus wrote:

On 2/7/23 22:11, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:

On 2/7/23 13:01, Matthew Yapit wrote:
I recently updated to 2022.10 and I've noticed that 
mate-system-monitor causes a core instead of launching.  Has anyone 
else seen this?  Is there a fix or one coming in the next update?


It happens for me, too.   Based on the traceback in exception code, 
it likely needs to be rebuilt with gcc 10 given the lack of C++ ABI 
stability.   ldd shows a mix of libraries:


% ldd =mate-system-monitor  | grep gcc
    libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
    libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1
    libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
    libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1


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Hello!

My version of mate-system-monitor shows only the gcc 7 libs,
but maybe you're right anyway..


$ ldd `which mate-system-monitor`  | grep gcc
    libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
    libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1

$ mate-system-monitor

...

(:4743): glibmm-CRITICAL **: 22:24:52.725:
unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler:
domain: g-io-error-quark
code  : 0
what  : Unable to find default local file monitor type

Segmentation Fault (core dumped)

$ pstack core
core 'core' of 4743:    mate-system-monitor
- thread# 1 / lwp# 1 -
 7fffaeb69d0b g_type_check_instance_cast () + 1b
 0044977a 
_ZN10ProcmanApp15on_command_lineERKN4Glib6RefPtrIN3Gio22ApplicationCommandLineEEE 
() + 11a
 7fff6e3c09b9 
_ZN3Gio17Application_Class21command_line_callbackEP13_GApplicationP24_GApplicationCommandLine 
() + 149

 7fffae841496 _g_cclosure_marshal_INT__OBJECTv () + 76
 7fffaeb3af95 _g_closure_invoke_va () + 185
 7fffaeb5af6d g_signal_emit_valist () + 39d
 7fffaeb5c05d g_signal_emit () + 7d
 7fffae8a032a g_application_call_command_line () + 7a
 7fffae8a26b1 g_application_real_local_command_line () + 241
 7fff6e3bf4f4 
_ZN3Gio11Application24local_command_line_vfuncERPPcRi () + 54
 7fff6e3c05cb 
_ZN3Gio17Application_Class33local_command_line_vfunc_callbackEP13_GApplicationPPPcPi 
() + 10b

 7fffae8a2845 g_application_run () + 155
 00422b4e main () + 5e
 00421e07 _start_crt () + 87
 00421d68 _start () + 18
...


Regards,

Stephan


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Hi!

When i rebuild mate-system-monitor in my environment,
i will get the dependencies to gcc-10 in the build.

The pstack of the core then contains on entry "" which i assume 
is a result of the gcc-10 dependencies.


Nevertheless mate-system-monitor does crash in the version (as of my BE: 
openindiana-2022:11:23) without gcc-10 deps.


So the primary root cause may be something different.

Regards,

Stephan



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 08/02/2023 07:02, Stephan Althaus wrote:

On 2/7/23 22:29, Stephan Althaus wrote:

On 2/7/23 22:11, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:

On 2/7/23 13:01, Matthew Yapit wrote:

I recently updated to 2022.10 and I've noticed that mate-system-monitor
causes a core instead of launching.  Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a
fix or one coming in the next update?


It happens for me, too.   Based on the traceback in exception code, it likely
needs to be rebuilt with gcc 10 given the lack of C++ ABI stability.   ldd
shows a mix of libraries:

% ldd =mate-system-monitor  | grep gcc
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/10/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1


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Hello!

My version of mate-system-monitor shows only the gcc 7 libs,
but maybe you're right anyway..


$ ldd `which mate-system-monitor`  | grep gcc
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libstdc++.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/gcc/7/lib/amd64/libgcc_s.so.1

$ mate-system-monitor

...

(:4743): glibmm-CRITICAL **: 22:24:52.725:
unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler:
domain: g-io-error-quark
code  : 0
what  : Unable to find default local file monitor type

Segmentation Fault (core dumped)

$ pstack core
core 'core' of 4743:mate-system-monitor
- thread# 1 / lwp# 1 -
 7fffaeb69d0b g_type_check_instance_cast () + 1b
 0044977a
_ZN10ProcmanApp15on_command_lineERKN4Glib6RefPtrIN3Gio22ApplicationCommandLineEEE
() + 11a
 7fff6e3c09b9
_ZN3Gio17Application_Class21command_line_callbackEP13_GApplicationP24_GApplicationCommandLine
() + 149
 7fffae841496 _g_cclosure_marshal_INT__OBJECTv () + 76
 7fffaeb3af95 _g_closure_invoke_va () + 185
 7fffaeb5af6d g_signal_emit_valist () + 39d
 7fffaeb5c05d g_signal_emit () + 7d
 7fffae8a032a g_application_call_command_line () + 7a
 7fffae8a26b1 g_application_real_local_command_line () + 241
 7fff6e3bf4f4 _ZN3Gio11Application24local_command_line_vfuncERPPcRi () + 54
 7fff6e3c05cb
_ZN3Gio17Application_Class33local_command_line_vfunc_callbackEP13_GApplicationPPPcPi
() + 10b
 7fffae8a2845 g_application_run () + 155
 00422b4e main () + 5e
 00421e07 _start_crt () + 87
 00421d68 _start () + 18
...




When i rebuild mate-system-monitor in my environment,
i will get the dependencies to gcc-10 in the build.

The pstack of the core then contains on entry "" which i assume is a
result of the gcc-10 dependencies.

Nevertheless mate-system-monitor does crash in the version (as of my BE:
openindiana-2022:11:23) without gcc-10 deps.

So the primary root cause may be something different.


It's the same crash in the current version. The gcc 7/10 mix results
from other libraries linked, see

# ldd -v `which mate-system-monitor`

With dbx, I get this stack:

(dbx) where -h -l -v
current thread: t@1
=>[1] libc.so.1:_lwp_kill(0x1, 0x6, 0xfe116fe54400, 0x0, 0x0, 
0x5fffaeef2cf0), at 0x5fffaed8731a

  [2] libc.so.1:thr_kill(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0), at 0x5fffaed7dbe0
  [3] libc.so.1:raise(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0), at 0x5fffaed1b26e
  [4] libc.so.1:abort(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0), at 0x5fffaecf4cd8
  [5] libgcc_s.so.1:_Unwind_SetGR(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0), at 
0x5fffaff52b0e
  [6] libstdc++.so.6.0.24:__gxx_personality_v0(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0), 
at 0x5fffaeff08c1

  [7] 0x7fffbffde8a0(0x0), at 0x7fffbffde8a0
  [8] libgcc_s.so.1:_Unwind_RaiseException_Phase2(0x0), at 0x5fffae705756
  [9] libgcc_s.so.1:_Unwind_Resume(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0), at 
0x5fffae706126
  [10] 
libgiomm-2.4.so.1.3.0:_ZN3Gio4File17monitor_directoryENS_16FileMonitorFlagsE.cold(0x0, 
0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0), at 0x5fffaeb9b9d5
  [11] mate-system-monitor:PrettyTable::PrettyTable(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 
0x0), at 0x42f84b
  [12] mate-system-monitor:ProcData::get_instance(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 
0x0), at 0x4223e1


or, in mdb (on parent)
> ::stack
libc.so.1`_lwp_kill+0xa()
libc.so.1`raise+0x1e(6)
libc.so.1`abort+0x58()
0x5fffaffb2b0e()
libstdc++.so.6.0.24`__gxx_personality_v0+0xd1()
libgcc_s.so.1`_Unwind_RaiseException_Phase2+0xa6()
libgcc_s.so.1`_Unwind_Resume+0x126()
0x5fffae39b9d5()
_ZN11PrettyTableC1Ev+0x1db()
_ZN8ProcData12get_instanceEv+0x81()
_ZL16procman_data_newP10_GSettings+0x1c()
_ZN10ProcmanApp10on_startupEv+0x4d()
libgiomm-2.4.so.1.3.0`_ZN3Gio17Application_Class16startup_callbackEP13_GApplication+0xc5()
libgobject-2.0.so.0.7400.5`_g_closure_invoke_va+0x188()
libgobject-2.0.so.0.7400.5`g_signal_emit_valist+0xd59()
libgobject-2.0.so.0.7400.5`g_signal_emit+0x7d()
libgio-2.0.so.0.7400.5`g_application_register+0x122()
libgio-2.0.so.0.7400.5`g_applicatio

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss]

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes,...:

When I web search this error:


unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler:
domain: g-io-error-quark
code  : 0
what  : Unable to find default local file monitor type


I see hits for it for many Linux distros too, along with a similar variant
for "directory" monitor type.

I wasn't able to find any definitive fixes, most of the responses
essentially amounted to voodoo.

The Linux systems that experienced this error also had an exception and
a segfault, so segfault may not be unique to OI or Illumos.  It might just
be secondary to the "local file monitor type".


So the primary root cause may be something different.


I think you're correct.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 08/02/2023 22:07, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes,...:

When I web search this error:


unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler:
domain: g-io-error-quark
code  : 0
what  : Unable to find default local file monitor type


I see hits for it for many Linux distros too, along with a similar variant
for "directory" monitor type.

I wasn't able to find any definitive fixes, most of the responses
essentially amounted to voodoo.

The Linux systems that experienced this error also had an exception and
a segfault, so segfault may not be unique to OI or Illumos.  It might just
be secondary to the "local file monitor type".


So the primary root cause may be something different.


I think you're correct.



It's possible that glib wasn't compiled with inotify/fam support.
fam is important for NFS-mounted directories. Note this:

# gio monitor -d /
gio: file:///: Unable to find default local file monitor type

# gio monitor -m /a
gio: file:///: Unable to find default local file monitor type

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 09/02/2023 15:06, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 08/02/2023 22:07, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote:

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mate-system-monitor crashes,...:

When I web search this error:


unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler:
domain: g-io-error-quark
code  : 0
what  : Unable to find default local file monitor type


I see hits for it for many Linux distros too, along with a similar variant
for "directory" monitor type.

I wasn't able to find any definitive fixes, most of the responses
essentially amounted to voodoo.

The Linux systems that experienced this error also had an exception and
a segfault, so segfault may not be unique to OI or Illumos.  It might just
be secondary to the "local file monitor type".


So the primary root cause may be something different.


I think you're correct.



It's possible that glib wasn't compiled with inotify/fam support.
fam is important for NFS-mounted directories. Note this:

# gio monitor -d /
gio: file:///: Unable to find default local file monitor type

# gio monitor -m /a
gio: file:///: Unable to find default local file monitor type




env GIO_USE_FILE_MONITOR=help gio monitor -d /
Supported arguments for GIO_USE_FILE_MONITOR environment variable:

>  (none)<=

gio: file:///: Unable to find default local file monitor type

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate clock applet gone

[Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss]

Am 02.12.23 11:50 schrieb Stephan Althaus  : 
> 
> Hello!
> 
> First of all, thanks for all the recent wecome updates on the OpenIndiana 
> distribution, it's really a great OS !!
> 
> I was most impressed by the speedup of libreoffice while scrolling through 
> calc tables.. was that a switch from GTK* to QT ?
> 
> 
> Now to the topic, nothing really severe..
> 
> Since some time (few weeks), i had the mate clock applet seen crashing and 
> could reload it by pressing a button on the appearing dialog box.
> 
> Now it seems, the clock applet does not load anymore.. (and the mate panel 
> takes a second more to load than previously, it appears after the background 
> and desktop contents..
> 
> Anyone else seeing this ?
> 
> Where can i find the error messages regarding mate applets on OI ?
> 
> Can an applet be load by command line to get the messages on the command line 
> ?
> 

Yes, and I guess you will get a message about mixed gtk2 and gtk3 symbols.

Which is wrong, the test for that in glib seems to be not reentrant and there 
is a similat test in libsoup about version 2 and 3. That leads to a false 
positve.

For publish the libsoup@2.74.3-2023.0.0.1 or newer we need a rebuild of 
illumos-gate becasue this is used by rtld and this in turn needs an patched 
libxml2@2.12.1.
It is all in the queue but rebuild needs some time.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

[Nikola M]

On 05/ 8/16 05:28 AM, ken mays via openindiana-discuss wrote:

Hello,
The MATE 1.14 Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2. It provides 
an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for 
Linux and other Unix-like operating systems.
MATE Desktop Environment

http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2016-04-08-mate-1-14-released/
About MATE: 
http://mate-desktop.org/blog/2014-02-07-stefano-presents-mate-at-fosdem/
Ref: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.14+Desktop
Contributed OpenIndiana MATE 1.14 Binaries: 
http://dlc.openindiana.org/mate-desktop/oi-mate-1.14-desktop-kmays_20160505.tar.xz
Mainly for testing and development. Comes with all the bells and whistles...


Hi,
I see there is also 
http://dlc.openindiana.org/mate-desktop/oi-mate-1.14-desktop-kmays_20160505.tar.xz.sha256 
to check.


I have a question testing MATE (Of course I made a new boot environment 
with 'beadm create' so I have previous state.) :

Should I put MATE test binaries in /usr/local , like it is said in archive?
Or should I put files from archive's /usr/local/dirs in /usr/dirs instead?

I suppose I can add MATE to gdm and select it in menu to boot to MATE 
instead of GNOME? (so that I have GNOME untouched and can still try MATE)
I am thinking that regular way of selecting desktop environment on login 
would be from gdm menu
Is there alternative, like disabling gdm service for testing (pfexec 
svcadm disable gdm) and start X session just to test MATE?

Thanks.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

[Till Wegmüller]

On 10.05.2016 11:24, Nikola M wrote:
I suppose I can add MATE to gdm and select it in menu to boot to MATE 
instead of GNOME? (so that I have GNOME untouched and can still try MATE)
I am thinking that regular way of selecting desktop environment on 
login would be from gdm menu
Is there alternative, like disabling gdm service for testing (pfexec 
svcadm disable gdm) and start X session just to test MATE?
Thanks. 

Hi Nikola

GDM autodetects mate if its installed and lists it as Option under 
Desktop Session where you should be able to select between GNOME MATE 
and Xterm.


Greetings Toasterson

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

[Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator]

On 05/10/16 01:08 PM, Till Wegmüller wrote:


On 10.05.2016 11:24, Nikola M wrote:

I suppose I can add MATE to gdm and select it in menu to boot to MATE
instead of GNOME? (so that I have GNOME untouched and can still try MATE)
I am thinking that regular way of selecting desktop environment on
login would be from gdm menu
Is there alternative, like disabling gdm service for testing (pfexec
svcadm disable gdm) and start X session just to test MATE?
Thanks.

Hi Nikola

GDM autodetects mate if its installed and lists it as Option under
Desktop Session where you should be able to select between GNOME MATE
and Xterm.

Greetings Toasterson



Hi,

I have installed it (went to /usr/local completely).
After log-out form running gmd, tried to log-in back, but no "GNOME 
MATE" was offered, just GNOME and xterm...


I could verify it with "$ ps -ef| grep usr/local" command which did not 
returned any running process (not from /usr/local at least).


Please advice HOW MATE can be detected by gdm?

REgards.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

[Till Wegmüller]

On 10.05.2016 15:12, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:


Hi,

I have installed it (went to /usr/local completely).
After log-out form running gmd, tried to log-in back, but no "GNOME 
MATE" was offered, just GNOME and xterm...


I could verify it with "$ ps -ef| grep usr/local" command which did 
not returned any running process (not from /usr/local at least).


Please advice HOW MATE can be detected by gdm?

REgards

Hi

I have just tested the MATE demo.

You have to unpack it into /usr. it does not get detected under /usr/local.
There may be a trick with PATH variable but i would not know how.

When i try to launch a mate session i get a completely green screen 
nothing more.


Greetings Toasterson

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

[Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator]

On 05/10/16 05:02 PM, Till Wegmüller wrote:

On 10.05.2016 15:12, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:


Hi,

I have installed it (went to /usr/local completely).
After log-out form running gmd, tried to log-in back, but no "GNOME
MATE" was offered, just GNOME and xterm...

I could verify it with "$ ps -ef| grep usr/local" command which did
not returned any running process (not from /usr/local at least).

Please advice HOW MATE can be detected by gdm?

REgards

Hi

I have just tested the MATE demo.

You have to unpack it into /usr. it does not get detected under /usr/local.
There may be a trick with PATH variable but i would not know how.

When i try to launch a mate session i get a completely green screen
nothing more.

Greetings Toasterson


Hi Toasterson,

I did unpacked MATE to separate directory, and navigated there, then:
$ ls -la
total 22K
drwxr-xr-x 11 rootroot   11 May 11 08:23 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 predrag_zecevic admin   3 May 11 08:23 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 rootroot   82 May  5 18:27 bin
drwxr-xr-x  3 rootroot3 Mar 29  2015 doc
drwxr-xr-x  7 rootroot7 May  5 18:27 etc
drwxr-xr-x 24 rootroot   24 May  5 18:27 include
drwxr-xr-x 20 rootroot  110 May  5 18:28 lib
drwxr-xr-x  5 rootroot   30 May  5 17:50 libexec
drwxr-xr-x  3 rootroot3 Mar 29  2015 man
drwxr-xr-x  2 rootroot3 May  3 14:57 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 58 rootroot   58 May  5 18:27 share

I see that that structure is not same as / one, and also some files will 
be replaced on existing OS (latest /hipster in my case), for example:


$ ls -al etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.1K May  5 18:27 
etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf


$ ls -al /etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf
-r--r--r-- 1 root bin 1.4K Oct  3  2015 
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf


What I did NOT checked is how many other files will be replaced and how 
many files will be installed on wrong place, for example 'lib' dir 
should go to '/usr/lib'?


With best regards.
Predrag Zečević


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.14 Desktop for OpenIndiana

[Michael Kruger]

On 05/11/2016 02:34 AM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:


Hi Toasterson,

I did unpacked MATE to separate directory, and navigated there, then:
$ ls -la
total 22K
drwxr-xr-x 11 rootroot   11 May 11 08:23 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 predrag_zecevic admin   3 May 11 08:23 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 rootroot   82 May  5 18:27 bin
drwxr-xr-x  3 rootroot3 Mar 29  2015 doc
drwxr-xr-x  7 rootroot7 May  5 18:27 etc
drwxr-xr-x 24 rootroot   24 May  5 18:27 include
drwxr-xr-x 20 rootroot  110 May  5 18:28 lib
drwxr-xr-x  5 rootroot   30 May  5 17:50 libexec
drwxr-xr-x  3 rootroot3 Mar 29  2015 man
drwxr-xr-x  2 rootroot3 May  3 14:57 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 58 rootroot   58 May  5 18:27 share

I see that that structure is not same as / one, and also some files will
be replaced on existing OS (latest /hipster in my case), for example:

$ ls -al etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.1K May  5 18:27
etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf

$ ls -al /etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf
-r--r--r-- 1 root bin 1.4K Oct  3  2015
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf

What I did NOT checked is how many other files will be replaced and how
many files will be installed on wrong place, for example 'lib' dir
should go to '/usr/lib'?

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević


I inquired about how to test this via IRC:

[08:22:11]  makruger: gdm looks for /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop
[08:22:39]  just ensure that you have corresponding file for mate there


Hope that helps,

Michael

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.18 and 2 monitors setup

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

Hi all,

I have updated OI /hipster this morning and got Mate 1.18 installed 
(thanks oyu all for that effort).


All looks fine, except my old set-up (Mate 1.16 was using just fine) 
with 2 monitors running separate workspaces stopped to work:


* I can use only one monitor ("left" one);
* Only mouse can access second screen (right button click does nothing 
while there);

* No program can be dragged to second screen;

Does anyone has any suggestion?
(I am using NVIDIA card, xorg.conf was not changed)

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate 1.18 Desktop menu reset commands

[openbabel]

Dear all,

I have lost some function in the main desktop menu on mate 1.18. 
Attempts to reset it locally produces a momentry flash on screen. Use of 
snap shots have not been successful. It would appear that this problem 
has been experienced in linux mate installations also. I have attempted 
to reset the panel through the single user login screen by using the 
command sudo mate-panel --reset and dconf reset -f /org/mate/terminal/


Is there a set command in oi I can try to now reset the main menu ?

Thank you,


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate 1.18 Desktop menu reset commands

[Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss]

>Is there a set command in oi I can try to now reset the main menu ?

Delete the file $HOME/.config/dconf/user
A.S.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate does not start

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In addition I got the message
Software acceleration check failed 
because/usr/lib/amd64/mate/mate-session-check-accelerated does not exist

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openindiana-discuss έγραψε:   Today for 
some reason my systemstopped functioning. I rebooted thesystem manually by 
pressing therestart button. It rebooted but itnever started mate. The 
loginscreen was there, I could logginbut that was all. Used the 
virtualterminals and I managed to see amessage that .config/dconf/userwas 
non-writable.  I deleted the filebut this did not help. I deleted thewhole 
.config folder but this did nothelp. I scrubbed the disk and noerrors were 
found. Now I enter myusername & password, the systemaccepts it but it returns 
again to thelogin screen! Any ideas what mightbe wrong?
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate does not start

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Adding a user works!

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate does not start

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In message <1416785550.2750755.1616517122...@mail.yahoo.com>, Apostolos Syropou
los via openindiana-discuss writes:
>Adding a user works!

How do the logs differ between your corrupted environment and
your working test user?

At that point a Mate expect can chime-in on whether its feasible
to repair your environment.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate does not start

[Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss]

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021, 6:52:26 PM GMT+2, John D Groenveld 
 wrote:

>How do the logs differ between your corrupted environment and
>your working test user?

Well I need to check things thoroughly and I do not have the time to
do this. So I decided to move my files to the new account and live
the old account there. 

>At that point a Mate expect can chime-in on whether its feasible
>to repair your environment.

That would be really ineteresting.

A.S.


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Michal Nowak]

Hello,

as part of preparations for the 2018.10 snapshot, MATE 1.20 and GTK+3 
3.24.1 were published to the hipster repo. Once you update you system, 
you will have them.


If you have a custom theme which worked with MATE 1.18 it may not work 
with the updated GTK+3. In that case you may revert in "Appearance 
Preferences" to a stock MATE theme or to our default Nimbus one.


Michal

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Hello, people.

I wanted to announce availability of Mate some time ago, but there were 
some issues, especially when I tried to build Mate Live CD. Good news is 
that now most irritating issues (or at least those which I found) are fixed.


So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've created 
pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available. Unfortunately, 
when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both of them try to use 
the same applications, so you'll have interesting time removing Gnome 2 
applications from Mate and vice versa.


Currently Mate packages are

desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
desktop/mate/caja
desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
desktop/mate/marco
desktop/mate/mate-applets
desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
desktop/mate/mate-system-log
desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
desktop/mate/mate-calc
desktop/mate/control-center
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
desktop/mate/mate-media
desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
desktop/mate/mate-panel
desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
terminal/mate-terminal
desktop/mate/mate-themes
desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
editor/pluma
image/viewer/eom
library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop
# Not strictly mate, but gdm brings in too much gnome2
system/display-manager/lightdm
system/display-manager/lightdm/gtk-greeter

Known MATE issues:
- power management is based on upower (hal support removed), so it 
doesn't work (affects mate-applets(batstat), mate power manager)
- nautilus zfs integration uses illumos private interfaces and wasn't 
ported to caja
- compiz integration to GNOME control center uses gconf settings. To 
work with mate code should be migrated to gsettings

- GUI interface to reboot to specific BE is not preserved

As for LightDM, it worked for me, but there was one issue, which I 
didn't manage to catch:
- On some conditions when ligthdm is disabled, it fails to switch active 
VT back to /dev/vt/0. If you can reproduce it or have some ideas why it 
happens (and lightdm does it in sigterm handler), I'll be glad to hear.


Now, about ISOs:
They are available at http://dlc-int.openindiana.org/hipster/20160816/ , 
sha256 checksums are in 
http://dlc-int.openindiana.org/hipster/20160816/sha256sums.txt .


Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal 
(we tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it 
doesn't deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these 
are test images and not official snapshots.


We would be glad for you to test them.

We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next 
snapshot (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and 
Gnome one are enough. We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image 
after next snapshot (in 2017).


Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it 
needs, then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Dr Peter jones]

Dear Michal

I have update to 1.2 mate, users may have to reconfigure all settings.Early
days but first impressions are it runs more smoothly. I am presently
getting trouble with pulse audio although the volume is loud the settings
don t respond
.
Robert

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 16:13, Michal Nowak  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> as part of preparations for the 2018.10 snapshot, MATE 1.20 and GTK+3
> 3.24.1 were published to the hipster repo. Once you update you system,
> you will have them.
>
> If you have a custom theme which worked with MATE 1.18 it may not work
> with the updated GTK+3. In that case you may revert in "Appearance
> Preferences" to a stock MATE theme or to our default Nimbus one.
>
> Michal
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/14/18 17:12, Michal Nowak wrote:

Hello,

as part of preparations for the 2018.10 snapshot, MATE 1.20 and GTK+3 
3.24.1 were published to the hipster repo. Once you update you system, 
you will have them.


If you have a custom theme which worked with MATE 1.18 it may not work 
with the updated GTK+3. In that case you may revert in "Appearance 
Preferences" to a stock MATE theme or to our default Nimbus one.


Michal

Hi Michal,

I have update OI this morning and after boot, I am faced with 6-7 time 
higher load on box, running nothing!
It is impossible to run anything, even terminal - because I have to wait 
2-3 seconds for response.

I did not bother to analyze, just reverted to previous BE...

Top processes shows
* /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
* caja

as most busiest ones... Terminator (terminal emulation) is so slow (as 
well as whole system) and irresponsible that I just gave up.


Do you have any idea what could be causing it? Or how to check what is 
show stopper?


BTW, this is latest change I have catch up with BE update: 
https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/4254/changes


With best regards.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Michal Nowak]

Hi,

the only MATE 1.20 component which deals with sound is libmatemixer, but 
looking at v1.20.1 changes compared to v1.18, there are barely any code 
changes...


Though, we updated Pulse Audio several times since 2018.04 snapshot.

Could you try to back out ~/.config/pulse/ and restart? Pulse Audio 
should re-create that directory with fresh configuration.


Thanks,
Michal

On 10/14/18 11:07 PM, Dr Peter jones wrote:

Dear Michal

I have update to 1.2 mate, users may have to reconfigure all settings.Early
days but first impressions are it runs more smoothly. I am presently
getting trouble with pulse audio although the volume is loud the settings
don t respond
.
Robert

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 16:13, Michal Nowak  wrote:


Hello,

as part of preparations for the 2018.10 snapshot, MATE 1.20 and GTK+3
3.24.1 were published to the hipster repo. Once you update you system,
you will have them.

If you have a custom theme which worked with MATE 1.18 it may not work
with the updated GTK+3. In that case you may revert in "Appearance
Preferences" to a stock MATE theme or to our default Nimbus one.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Michal Nowak]

On 10/15/18 09:04 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/14/18 17:12, Michal Nowak wrote:

Hello,

as part of preparations for the 2018.10 snapshot, MATE 1.20 and GTK+3 
3.24.1 were published to the hipster repo. Once you update you system, 
you will have them.


If you have a custom theme which worked with MATE 1.18 it may not work 
with the updated GTK+3. In that case you may revert in "Appearance 
Preferences" to a stock MATE theme or to our default Nimbus one.


Michal

Hi Michal,

I have update OI this morning and after boot, I am faced with 6-7 time 
higher load on box, running nothing!
It is impossible to run anything, even terminal - because I have to wait 
2-3 seconds for response.

I did not bother to analyze, just reverted to previous BE...

Top processes shows
* /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
* caja

as most busiest ones... Terminator (terminal emulation) is so slow (as 
well as whole system) and irresponsible that I just gave up.


Do you have any idea what could be causing it? Or how to check what is 
show stopper?


BTW, this is latest change I have catch up with BE update: 
https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/4254/changes


Hi Predrag,

would you mind starting the BE with MATE 1.20 again if the problem is 
still there? I used to see a problem where caja misbehaved like you 
described, it was enough to terminate it with `caja --quit` (perhaps you 
can SSH to the system). caja should restart automatically afterwards.


Knowing recent lines from ~/.xsession-errors might be of help too.

Thanks,
Michal



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/16/18 09:14, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/15/18 09:04 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/14/18 17:12, Michal Nowak wrote:

Hello,

as part of preparations for the 2018.10 snapshot, MATE 1.20 and GTK+3 
3.24.1 were published to the hipster repo. Once you update you 
system, you will have them.


If you have a custom theme which worked with MATE 1.18 it may not 
work with the updated GTK+3. In that case you may revert in 
"Appearance Preferences" to a stock MATE theme or to our default 
Nimbus one.


Michal

Hi Michal,

I have update OI this morning and after boot, I am faced with 6-7 time 
higher load on box, running nothing!
It is impossible to run anything, even terminal - because I have to 
wait 2-3 seconds for response.

I did not bother to analyze, just reverted to previous BE...

Top processes shows
* /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
* caja

as most busiest ones... Terminator (terminal emulation) is so slow (as 
well as whole system) and irresponsible that I just gave up.


Do you have any idea what could be causing it? Or how to check what is 
show stopper?


BTW, this is latest change I have catch up with BE update: 
https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/4254/changes


Hi Predrag,

would you mind starting the BE with MATE 1.20 again if the problem is 
still there? I used to see a problem where caja misbehaved like you 
described, it was enough to terminate it with `caja --quit` (perhaps you 
can SSH to the system). caja should restart automatically afterwards.


Knowing recent lines from ~/.xsession-errors might be of help too.

Thanks,
Michal

Hi Michal,

Thanks for advice, but unfortunately it did not help:
did 'caja --quit' sevrerl times, even with 'rm -rf ~/.config/caja' in 
between... No help.


It does not look that caja is main cause or/and Xorg, but everything... 
I knom top is not proper tool, but its name contains only 3 letters, so 
I could follow my typing (prstat is much longer :-)):

--
last pid:  2403;  load avg:  5.83,  5.38,  3.14;  up 0+00:13:48 
14:41:39

116 processes: 104 sleeping, 9 running, 3 on cpu
CPU states: 44.3% idle, 36.0% user, 19.7% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
Kernel: 1579 ctxsw, 82330 trap, 921 intr, 226416 syscall, 81898 flt
Memory: 8127M phys mem, 3187M free mem, 8192M total swap, 8192M free swap
ARC:1875M Total, 1294M MRU, 152M MFU, 53M Anon, 29M Header, 346M Other

   PID USERNAME NLWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND
  2186 predrag_5  520  219M  117M run  1:28  7.23% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
  2227 predrag_4  590   85M   65M sleep0:53  4.62% 
/usr/lib/nwam-manager
   predrag_3  590   96M   75M sleep0:53  4.61% 
/usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/time-slider-notify

  2386 predrag_4  590  136M   99M sleep0:14  3.82% caja
  2225 predrag_4  590  126M   85M sleep0:45  3.82% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/clock-applet
  2218 predrag_4  590  119M   83M sleep0:44  3.80% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/stickynotes-applet
  2221 predrag_4  590  116M   79M sleep0:45  3.78% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/mate-geyes-applet

  2136 predrag_4  520  115M   76M run  0:44  2.88% mate-session
  2201 predrag_3  590  114M   76M cpu/10:43  2.77% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/msd-locate-pointer
  2209 predrag_3  520  116M   79M run  0:44  2.69% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/trashapplet


last pid:  2403;  load avg:  5.86,  5.39,  3.16;  up 0+00:13:53 
14:41:44

116 processes: 115 sleeping, 1 on cpu
CPU states: 87.0% idle,  7.9% user,  5.1% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
Kernel: 1816 ctxsw, 18611 trap, 936 intr, 53867 syscall, 18561 flt
Memory: 8127M phys mem, 3182M free mem, 8192M total swap, 8192M free swap
ARC:1869M Total, 1341M MRU, 152M MFU, 2164K Anon, 29M Header, 345M Other

   PID USERNAME NLWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND
  2226 predrag_4  590  114M   76M sleep0:43  1.43% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/notification-area-applet

  2187 predrag_4  590  118M   80M sleep0:46  1.39% marco
 5 root  228  98  -200K0K sleep0:19  1.38% zpool-rpool
  2191 predrag_4  590  122M   85M sleep0:45  1.27% mate-panel
  2207 predrag_3  590  184M   81M sleep0:44  1.12% 
mate-volume-control-applet
  2213 predrag_4  590  116M   79M sleep0:43  1.11% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/timer-applet
  2206 predrag_4  590  116M   79M sleep0:45  1.08% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/wnck-applet
  2209 predrag_3  590  116M   79M sleep0:44  1.07% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/trashapplet
  2201 predrag_3  590  114M   76M sleep0:44  1.01% 
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/msd-locate-pointer

  2136 predrag_4  590  115M   76M sleep0:44  0.94% mate-session

last pid:  2403;  load avg:  5.80,  5.39,  3.17;  up 0+00:13:58 
14:41:49

116 processes: 98 sleeping, 15 running, 3 on cpu
CP

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 16/10/2018 15:02, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/16/18 09:14, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/15/18 09:04 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/14/18 17:12, Michal Nowak wrote:

...

Hi Michal,

Thanks for advice, but unfortunately it did not help:
did 'caja --quit' sevrerl times, even with 'rm -rf ~/.config/caja' in between...
No help.

It does not look that caja is main cause or/and Xorg, but everything... I knom
top is not proper tool, but its name contains only 3 letters, so I could follow
my typing (prstat is much longer :-)):
--
last pid:  2403;  load avg:  5.83,  5.38,  3.14;  up 0+00:13:48 14:41:39
116 processes: 104 sleeping, 9 running, 3 on cpu
CPU states: 44.3% idle, 36.0% user, 19.7% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
Kernel: 1579 ctxsw, 82330 trap, 921 intr, 226416 syscall, 81898 flt
Memory: 8127M phys mem, 3187M free mem, 8192M total swap, 8192M free swap
ARC:1875M Total, 1294M MRU, 152M MFU, 53M Anon, 29M Header, 346M Other

   PID USERNAME NLWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND
  2186 predrag_5  520  219M  117M run  1:28  7.23%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
  2227 predrag_4  590   85M   65M sleep0:53  4.62%
/usr/lib/nwam-manager
   predrag_3  590   96M   75M sleep0:53  4.61%
/usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/time-slider-notify
  2386 predrag_4  590  136M   99M sleep0:14  3.82% caja
  2225 predrag_4  590  126M   85M sleep0:45  3.82%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/clock-applet
  2218 predrag_4  590  119M   83M sleep0:44  3.80%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/stickynotes-applet
  2221 predrag_4  590  116M   79M sleep0:45  3.78%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/mate-geyes-applet
  2136 predrag_4  520  115M   76M run  0:44  2.88% mate-session
  2201 predrag_3  590  114M   76M cpu/10:43  2.77%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/msd-locate-pointer
  2209 predrag_3  520  116M   79M run  0:44  2.69%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/trashapplet
...



There are way too much syscalls for a presumably idle system,
about 10 times of the expected number.
May a truss -f -p   on the high CPU processes could give
clue what they are actually looking for.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Michal Nowak]

On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) 
 wrote:
> On 16/10/2018 15:02, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:
>> On 10/16/18 09:14, Michal Nowak wrote:
>>> On 10/15/18 09:04 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst
>>> wrote:
 On 10/14/18 17:12, Michal Nowak wrote:
> ...
>> Hi Michal,
>>
>> Thanks for advice, but unfortunately it did not help:
>> did 'caja --quit' sevrerl times, even with 'rm -rf ~/.config/caja' in
>> between...
>> No help.
>>
>> It does not look that caja is main cause or/and Xorg, but everything...
>> I knom
>> top is not proper tool, but its name contains only 3 letters, so I could
>> follow
>> my typing (prstat is much longer :-)):
>> --
>> last pid:  2403;  load avg:  5.83,  5.38,  3.14;  up 0+00:13:48 14:41:39
>> 116 processes: 104 sleeping, 9 running, 3 on cpu
>> CPU states: 44.3% idle, 36.0% user, 19.7% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0%
>> swap
>> Kernel: 1579 ctxsw, 82330 trap, 921 intr, 226416 syscall, 81898 flt
>> Memory: 8127M phys mem, 3187M free mem, 8192M total swap, 8192M free
>> swap
>> ARC:1875M Total, 1294M MRU, 152M MFU, 53M Anon, 29M Header, 346M
>> Other
>>
>>PID USERNAME NLWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND
>>   2186 predrag_5  520  219M  117M run  1:28  7.23%
>> /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
>>   2227 predrag_4  590   85M   65M sleep0:53  4.62%
>> /usr/lib/nwam-manager
>>    predrag_3  590   96M   75M sleep0:53  4.61%
>> /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/time-slider-notify
>>   2386 predrag_4  590  136M   99M sleep0:14  3.82% caja
>>   2225 predrag_4  590  126M   85M sleep0:45  3.82%
>> /usr/lib/amd64/mate/clock-applet
>>   2218 predrag_4  590  119M   83M sleep0:44  3.80%
>> /usr/lib/amd64/mate/stickynotes-applet
>>   2221 predrag_4  590  116M   79M sleep0:45  3.78%
>> /usr/lib/amd64/mate/mate-geyes-applet
>>   2136 predrag_4  520  115M   76M run  0:44  2.88%
>> mate-session
>>   2201 predrag_3  590  114M   76M cpu/10:43  2.77%
>> /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/msd-locate-pointer
>>   2209 predrag_3  520  116M   79M run  0:44  2.69%
>> /usr/lib/amd64/mate/trashapplet
>> ...
> 
> 
> There are way too much syscalls for a presumably idle system,
> about 10 times of the expected number.
> May a truss -f -p   on the high CPU processes could give
> clue what they are actually looking for.

Predrag, I think start with mate-settings-daemon process (takes to much memory, 
CPU time).

Get some truss data as Udo suggests and kill the mate-settings-daemon process 
or run: mate-settings-daemon --replace

Maybe you can even uninstall 
pkg:/desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon@1.20.3-2018.0.0.0 (no dependencies) to 
see if it's this program.

Michal

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[openbabel]

Thanks will try it..seems the Deamon failed upon start up.

Robert


On 16/10/2018 08:05, Michal Nowak wrote:

Hi,

the only MATE 1.20 component which deals with sound is libmatemixer, 
but looking at v1.20.1 changes compared to v1.18, there are barely any 
code changes...


Though, we updated Pulse Audio several times since 2018.04 snapshot.

Could you try to back out ~/.config/pulse/ and restart? Pulse Audio 
should re-create that directory with fresh configuration.


Thanks,
Michal

On 10/14/18 11:07 PM, Dr Peter jones wrote:

Dear Michal

I have update to 1.2 mate, users may have to reconfigure all 
settings.Early

days but first impressions are it runs more smoothly. I am presently
getting trouble with pulse audio although the volume is loud the 
settings

don t respond
.
Robert

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 16:13, Michal Nowak  wrote:


Hello,

as part of preparations for the 2018.10 snapshot, MATE 1.20 and GTK+3
3.24.1 were published to the hipster repo. Once you update you system,
you will have them.

If you have a custom theme which worked with MATE 1.18 it may not work
with the updated GTK+3. In that case you may revert in "Appearance
Preferences" to a stock MATE theme or to our default Nimbus one.

Michal

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/16/18 15:11, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/10/2018 15:02, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/16/18 09:14, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/15/18 09:04 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/14/18 17:12, Michal Nowak wrote:

...

Hi Michal,

Thanks for advice, but unfortunately it did not help:
did 'caja --quit' sevrerl times, even with 'rm -rf ~/.config/caja' in 
between...

No help.

It does not look that caja is main cause or/and Xorg, but 
everything... I knom
top is not proper tool, but its name contains only 3 letters, so I 
could follow

my typing (prstat is much longer :-)):
--
last pid:  2403;  load avg:  5.83,  5.38,  3.14;  up 0+00:13:48 14:41:39
116 processes: 104 sleeping, 9 running, 3 on cpu
CPU states: 44.3% idle, 36.0% user, 19.7% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% 
swap

Kernel: 1579 ctxsw, 82330 trap, 921 intr, 226416 syscall, 81898 flt
Memory: 8127M phys mem, 3187M free mem, 8192M total swap, 8192M free swap
ARC:    1875M Total, 1294M MRU, 152M MFU, 53M Anon, 29M Header, 346M 
Other


   PID USERNAME NLWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE    TIME    CPU COMMAND
  2186 predrag_    5  52    0  219M  117M run  1:28  7.23%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
  2227 predrag_    4  59    0   85M   65M sleep    0:53  4.62%
/usr/lib/nwam-manager
   predrag_    3  59    0   96M   75M sleep    0:53  4.61%
/usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/time-slider-notify
  2386 predrag_    4  59    0  136M   99M sleep    0:14  3.82% caja
  2225 predrag_    4  59    0  126M   85M sleep    0:45  3.82%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/clock-applet
  2218 predrag_    4  59    0  119M   83M sleep    0:44  3.80%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/stickynotes-applet
  2221 predrag_    4  59    0  116M   79M sleep    0:45  3.78%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/mate-geyes-applet
  2136 predrag_    4  52    0  115M   76M run  0:44  2.88% 
mate-session

  2201 predrag_    3  59    0  114M   76M cpu/1    0:43  2.77%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/msd-locate-pointer
  2209 predrag_    3  52    0  116M   79M run  0:44  2.69%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/trashapplet
...



There are way too much syscalls for a presumably idle system,
about 10 times of the expected number.
May a truss -f -p   on the high CPU processes could give
clue what they are actually looking for.



Hi all,

I have give it a try again. Created truss from 2 top processes:
* 2483 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/time-sliderd
* 2494 /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon

$ ls -al  2delete/*truss*
-rw-r--r-- 1 predrag_zecevic admin 23M Oct 18 13:53 2delete/LOAD.2483.truss
-rw-r--r-- 1 predrag_zecevic admin 12M Oct 18 13:54 2delete/LOAD.2484.truss

Most of entries there are like:

2484/1: 
stat64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/100dpi-ISO8859-10:pri=91/courR12-ISO8859-10.pcf", 
0x080468B0) = 0
2484/1: 
open("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/100dpi-ISO8859-10:pri=91/courR12-ISO8859-10.pcf", 
O_RDONLY) = 20

2484/1: fcntl(20, F_SETFD, 0x0001)  = 0
2484/1: fstat(20, 0x08046608)   = 0
2484/1: mmap(0x, 14108, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 20, 0) = 
0xF9F4

2484/1: close(20)   = 0
2484/1: munmap(0xF9F4, 14108)   = 0
2484/1: 
stat64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/100dpi-ISO8859-10:pri=91/courR14-ISO8859-10.pcf", 
0x080468B0) = 0
2484/1: 
open("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/100dpi-ISO8859-10:pri=91/courR14-ISO8859-10.pcf", 
O_RDONLY) = 20

2484/1: fcntl(20, F_SETFD, 0x0001)  = 0
2484/1: fstat(20, 0x08046608)   = 0
2484/1: mmap(0x, 15000, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 20, 0) = 
0xF9F4

2484/1: close(20)   = 0
2484/1: munmap(0xF9F4, 15000)   = 0
2484/1: 
stat64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/100dpi-ISO8859-10:pri=91/courR18-ISO8859-10.pcf", 
0x080468B0) = 0
2484/1: 
open("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/100dpi-ISO8859-10:pri=91/courR18-ISO8859-10.pcf", 
O_RDONLY) = 20

2484/1: fcntl(20, F_SETFD, 0x0001)  = 0
2484/1: fstat(20, 0x08046608)   = 0
2484/1: mmap(0x, 17496, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 20, 0) = 
0xF9F4

2484/1: close(20)   = 0

and it looks like fonts are re-reading in loops... Sometimes terminal 
(mate in this case) reacts fast, then slows down till stop, then is 
responsive again...


Also, this confirms loop:
$ grep -E "open.*fontpath" 2delete/LOAD.2484.truss | $awk '{print $2}' | 
sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -5

  6 open64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/75dpi-ISO8859-15:unscaled:pri=26",
  6 open64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/75dpi-ISO8859-15:pri=96",
  6 open64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/75dpi-ISO8859-14:unscaled:pri=26",
  6 open64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/75dpi-ISO8859-14:pri=96",
  6 open64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/75dpi-ISO8859-13:unscaled:pri=26",

$ grep -E "open.*fon

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 18/10/2018 14:15, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

I have give it a try again. Created truss from 2 top processes:
* 2494 /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemo


Typo here, or did you accidently truss 2484 instead of 2494 ?


$ ls -al  2delete/*truss*
-rw-r--r-- 1 predrag_zecevic admin 12M Oct 18 13:54 2delete/LOAD.2484.truss

   

2484/1:

  


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/18/18 14:26, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 18/10/2018 14:15, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

I have give it a try again. Created truss from 2 top processes:
* 2494 /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemo

     
Typo here, or did you accidently truss 2484 instead of 2494 ?

Yes, that was typo.. Sorry :-(



$ ls -al  2delete/*truss*
-rw-r--r-- 1 predrag_zecevic admin 12M Oct 18 13:54 
2delete/LOAD.2484.truss

    

2484/1:

   




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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 18/10/2018 14:15, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/16/18 15:11, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/10/2018 15:02, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/16/18 09:14, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/15/18 09:04 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/14/18 17:12, Michal Nowak wrote:

...

Hi Michal,

Thanks for advice, but unfortunately it did not help:
did 'caja --quit' sevrerl times, even with 'rm -rf ~/.config/caja' in between...
No help.

It does not look that caja is main cause or/and Xorg, but everything... I knom
top is not proper tool, but its name contains only 3 letters, so I could follow
my typing (prstat is much longer :-)):
--
last pid:  2403;  load avg:  5.83,  5.38,  3.14;  up 0+00:13:48 14:41:39
116 processes: 104 sleeping, 9 running, 3 on cpu
CPU states: 44.3% idle, 36.0% user, 19.7% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
Kernel: 1579 ctxsw, 82330 trap, 921 intr, 226416 syscall, 81898 flt
Memory: 8127M phys mem, 3187M free mem, 8192M total swap, 8192M free swap
ARC:1875M Total, 1294M MRU, 152M MFU, 53M Anon, 29M Header, 346M Other

   PID USERNAME NLWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND
  2186 predrag_5  520  219M  117M run  1:28  7.23%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon
  2227 predrag_4  590   85M   65M sleep0:53  4.62%
/usr/lib/nwam-manager
   predrag_3  590   96M   75M sleep0:53  4.61%
/usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/time-slider-notify
  2386 predrag_4  590  136M   99M sleep0:14  3.82% caja
  2225 predrag_4  590  126M   85M sleep0:45  3.82%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/clock-applet
  2218 predrag_4  590  119M   83M sleep0:44  3.80%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/stickynotes-applet
  2221 predrag_4  590  116M   79M sleep0:45  3.78%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/mate-geyes-applet
  2136 predrag_4  520  115M   76M run  0:44  2.88% mate-session
  2201 predrag_3  590  114M   76M cpu/10:43  2.77%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/msd-locate-pointer
  2209 predrag_3  520  116M   79M run  0:44  2.69%
/usr/lib/amd64/mate/trashapplet
...



There are way too much syscalls for a presumably idle system,
about 10 times of the expected number.
May a truss -f -p   on the high CPU processes could give
clue what they are actually looking for.



Hi all,

I have give it a try again. Created truss from 2 top processes:
* 2483 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/time-sliderd
* 2494 /usr/lib/amd64/mate-settings-daemon/mate-settings-daemon

$ ls -al  2delete/*truss*
-rw-r--r-- 1 predrag_zecevic admin 23M Oct 18 13:53 2delete/LOAD.2483.truss
-rw-r--r-- 1 predrag_zecevic admin 12M Oct 18 13:54 2delete/LOAD.2484.truss

Most of entries there are like:

2484/1:
stat64("/etc/X11/fontpath.d/100dpi-ISO8859-10:pri=91/courR12-ISO8859-10.pcf",
0x080468B0) = 0
2484/1:
...


This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


If someone is interested in truss files, let contact me.


Please put them on some dropbox or similar place.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Alan Coopersmith]

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Michal Nowak]

On 10/18/18 04:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



At the very same time we updated MATE we also bumped fontconfig to 
2.13.1 (https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4494). Aurélien, 
any ideas?


Predrag, do you have fontconfig 2.13.1? And by a chance can you check 
that you don't have a symlink loop from /usr/share/fonts to 
/etc/X11/fontpath.d or something like that?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/18/18 16:59, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



Hi Alan,

checked: service fc-cache was up and running. Restarted, but nothing has 
changed.


There are no errors in its log file...

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/19/18 18:01, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/18/18 04:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



At the very same time we updated MATE we also bumped fontconfig to 
2.13.1 (https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4494). Aurélien, 
any ideas?


Predrag, do you have fontconfig 2.13.1? And by a chance can you check 
that you don't have a symlink loop from /usr/share/fonts to 
/etc/X11/fontpath.d or something like that?



Hi Michal,

$ beadm list oi_181018
BEActive Mountpoint Space Policy Created
oi_181018 -  - 3,85G static 2018-10-18 11:30

$ beadm mount oi_181018 /beadm
Mounted successfully on: '/beadm'

$ pkg -R /beadm list fontconfig
NAME (PUBLISHER)  VERSION 
IFO
system/library/fontconfig 2.13.1-2018.0.0.1 
i--


$ ls -hlad /beadm/usr/share/fonts/ /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 93 Jan 11  2017 /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin   5 Jan  8  2016 /beadm/usr/share/fonts/

With best regards.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Michal Nowak]

On 10/22/18 09:07 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/19/18 18:01, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/18/18 04:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



At the very same time we updated MATE we also bumped fontconfig to 
2.13.1 (https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4494). 
Aurélien, any ideas?


Predrag, do you have fontconfig 2.13.1? And by a chance can you check 
that you don't have a symlink loop from /usr/share/fonts to 
/etc/X11/fontpath.d or something like that?



Hi Michal,

$ beadm list oi_181018
BE    Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created
oi_181018 -  - 3,85G static 2018-10-18 11:30

$ beadm mount oi_181018 /beadm
Mounted successfully on: '/beadm'

$ pkg -R /beadm list fontconfig
NAME (PUBLISHER)  VERSION     IFO
system/library/fontconfig 2.13.1-2018.0.0.1     i--

$ ls -hlad /beadm/usr/share/fonts/ /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 93 Jan 11  2017 /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin   5 Jan  8  2016 /beadm/usr/share/fonts/

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević


Thanks.

One last idea. Similar symptoms happened to me recently, when I had root 
permissions on some of my dot files in $(HOME). Can you check that dot 
files in $(HOME) are owned by the user?


Michal

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/22/18 09:59, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/22/18 09:07 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/19/18 18:01, Michal Nowak wrote:

On 10/18/18 04:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig 
iterating

through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



At the very same time we updated MATE we also bumped fontconfig to 
2.13.1 (https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4494). 
Aurélien, any ideas?


Predrag, do you have fontconfig 2.13.1? And by a chance can you check 
that you don't have a symlink loop from /usr/share/fonts to 
/etc/X11/fontpath.d or something like that?



Hi Michal,

$ beadm list oi_181018
BE    Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created
oi_181018 -  - 3,85G static 2018-10-18 11:30

$ beadm mount oi_181018 /beadm
Mounted successfully on: '/beadm'

$ pkg -R /beadm list fontconfig
NAME (PUBLISHER)  VERSION     IFO
system/library/fontconfig 2.13.1-2018.0.0.1 
    i--


$ ls -hlad /beadm/usr/share/fonts/ /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 93 Jan 11  2017 /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin   5 Jan  8  2016 /beadm/usr/share/fonts/

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević


Thanks.

One last idea. Similar symptoms happened to me recently, when I had root 
permissions on some of my dot files in $(HOME). Can you check that dot 
files in $(HOME) are owned by the user?


Michal

Hi MIchail,

yes, there is one directory, containing some files owned by root:
$ find . -uid 0 | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort -u
.ccache

What is purpose of it?

Thank you for hints...

With best regards.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Michal Nowak]

On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support 
Analyst  wrote:
> On 10/22/18 09:59, Michal Nowak wrote:
>> On 10/22/18 09:07 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:
>>> On 10/19/18 18:01, Michal Nowak wrote:
 On 10/18/18 04:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
>> This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
>> read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
>> thinking the mate font configuration has changed.
>
> I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig
> iterating
> through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
> caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
> svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
> system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it
> would
> be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the
> SMF
> logs for it.
>

 At the very same time we updated MATE we also bumped fontconfig to
 2.13.1 (https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4494).
 Aurélien, any ideas?

 Predrag, do you have fontconfig 2.13.1? And by a chance can you check
 that you don't have a symlink loop from /usr/share/fonts to
 /etc/X11/fontpath.d or something like that?

>>> Hi Michal,
>>>
>>> $ beadm list oi_181018
>>> BE    Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created
>>> oi_181018 -  - 3,85G static 2018-10-18 11:30
>>>
>>> $ beadm mount oi_181018 /beadm
>>> Mounted successfully on: '/beadm'
>>>
>>> $ pkg -R /beadm list fontconfig
>>> NAME (PUBLISHER)  VERSION     IFO
>>> system/library/fontconfig 2.13.1-2018.0.0.1
>>>     i--
>>>
>>> $ ls -hlad /beadm/usr/share/fonts/ /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 93 Jan 11  2017 /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
>>> drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin   5 Jan  8  2016 /beadm/usr/share/fonts/
>>>
>>> With best regards.
>>> Predrag Zečević
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> One last idea. Similar symptoms happened to me recently, when I had root
>> permissions on some of my dot files in $(HOME). Can you check that dot
>> files in $(HOME) are owned by the user?
>>
>> Michal
> Hi MIchail,
> 
> yes, there is one directory, containing some files owned by root:
> $ find . -uid 0 | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort -u
> .ccache
> 
> What is purpose of it?
> 
> Thank you for hints...
> 
> With best regards.
> Predrag Zečević
> 

In my case ~/.dconf was owner by root.

If you find it safe, you can change ownership of those files to the expected 
user. Then please re-try that BE.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/22/18 11:52, Michal Nowak wrote:
> On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support 
> Analyst  wrote:
>> On 10/22/18 09:59, Michal Nowak wrote:
>>> On 10/22/18 09:07 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:
 On 10/19/18 18:01, Michal Nowak wrote:
> On 10/18/18 04:59 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
>>> This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
>>> read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
>>> thinking the mate font configuration has changed.
>>
>> I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig
>> iterating
>> through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
>> caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
>> svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
>> system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it
>> would
>> be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the
>> SMF
>> logs for it.
>>
>
> At the very same time we updated MATE we also bumped fontconfig to
> 2.13.1 (https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/4494).
> Aurélien, any ideas?
>
> Predrag, do you have fontconfig 2.13.1? And by a chance can you check
> that you don't have a symlink loop from /usr/share/fonts to
> /etc/X11/fontpath.d or something like that?
>
 Hi Michal,

 $ beadm list oi_181018
 BE    Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created
 oi_181018 -  - 3,85G static 2018-10-18 11:30

 $ beadm mount oi_181018 /beadm
 Mounted successfully on: '/beadm'

 $ pkg -R /beadm list fontconfig
 NAME (PUBLISHER)  VERSION     IFO
 system/library/fontconfig 2.13.1-2018.0.0.1
     i--

 $ ls -hlad /beadm/usr/share/fonts/ /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 93 Jan 11  2017 /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/
 drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin   5 Jan  8  2016 /beadm/usr/share/fonts/

 With best regards.
 Predrag Zečević
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> One last idea. Similar symptoms happened to me recently, when I had root
>>> permissions on some of my dot files in $(HOME). Can you check that dot
>>> files in $(HOME) are owned by the user?
>>>
>>> Michal
>> Hi MIchail,
>>
>> yes, there is one directory, containing some files owned by root:
>> $ find . -uid 0 | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort -u
>> .ccache
>>
>> What is purpose of it?
>>
>> Thank you for hints...
>>
>> With best regards.
>> Predrag Zečević
>>
> 
> In my case ~/.dconf was owner by root.
> 
> If you find it safe, you can change ownership of those files to the expected 
> user. Then please re-try that BE.
> 
Hi Michal,

I have tried it (with permissions changed) again - no luck!

I have used this bash function (and executed it for 30-40 seconds on
each BE):
$ typeset -f dtSysCalls
dtSysCalls ()
{
echo "Press Ctrl-C to see results";
pfexec dtrace -n 'syscall:::entry /execname != "dtrace"/
{@[execname] = count();} tick-60s {exit(0);}'
}

And here are results (logged in into mate, open mate terminal). For
current BE, working fine:
--
$ dtSysCalls
Press Ctrl-C to see results
dtrace: description 'syscall:::entry ' matched 237 probes
^C

  utmpd 2
  gvfsd 4
  inetd 5
  netcfgd   5
  rpcbind   5
  svc.configd   5
  svc.startd5
  console-kit-daem  8
  gvfs-hal-volume-  8
  hald-addon-acpi   9
  nscd 10
  ssh-agent10
  mate-notificatio 14
  lightdm  16
  fmd  19
  notification-are 19
  pickup   19
  mate-volume-cont 21
  stickynotes-appl 24
  timer-applet 24
  trashapplet  24
  hald 26
  intrd 

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 18/10/2018 16:59, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



For what I see from the 2483 time-sliderd truss output, it does the
following for each /etc/X11/fontpath.d/*/ directory:

1) with a convoluted procedure, produce a lock file .uuid inside
   that directory

2) Then use utimensat to update access and modification times of
   that directory   *

3) Open RDONLY  *.cache-n file in /var/cache/fontconfig/
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig/
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.fontconfig/
   (there are none)

4) Do the same RDWR (there are still none)

5) fstat all .pcf files and fonts.dir and files mentioned therein
   in the fontpath.d dir and mmap them

6) do something (not seen in truss) and unmap them

7) remove the .uuid file

8) repeat from 1)

Could it be that the change of the modification time (2) from 2483
triggers the reread by 2484 (mate-settings-daemon) ?

And by the way, if I counted correctly, this system has over 24.000
individual fonts, so the caching procedure a) really takes a while,
and b) makes no sense at all since almost all of them are obviously
unused. And indeed, the 2484 truss shows no loop up to the truncation
point, these are all different fonts...
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

On 10/23/18 15:02, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
> On 18/10/2018 16:59, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
>>> This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
>>> read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
>>> thinking the mate font configuration has changed.
>>
>> I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
>> through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
>> caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
>> svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
>> system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
>> be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
>> logs for it.
>>
> 
> For what I see from the 2483 time-sliderd truss output, it does the
> following for each /etc/X11/fontpath.d/*/ directory:
> 
> 1) with a convoluted procedure, produce a lock file .uuid inside
>    that directory
> 
> 2) Then use utimensat to update access and modification times of
>    that directory   *
> 
> 3) Open RDONLY  *.cache-n file in /var/cache/fontconfig/
>     /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig/
>     /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.fontconfig/
>    (there are none)
> 
> 4) Do the same RDWR (there are still none)
> 
> 5) fstat all .pcf files and fonts.dir and files mentioned therein
>    in the fontpath.d dir and mmap them
> 
> 6) do something (not seen in truss) and unmap them
> 
> 7) remove the .uuid file
> 
> 8) repeat from 1)
> 
> Could it be that the change of the modification time (2) from 2483
> triggers the reread by 2484 (mate-settings-daemon) ?
> 
Hi,

many thanks fo looking at truss files!

No idea modification time changes triggers more actions (could it be)...
New MATE has (obviously) introduced more checks/processes/etc.

Since, this is narrowed to fonts re-reading/re-caching - may I ask you
to share contents (at least figures) from your desktop, of font
directories (and packages)?

> And by the way, if I counted correctly, this system has over 24.000
> individual fonts, so the caching procedure a) really takes a while,
> and b) makes no sense at all since almost all of them are obviously
> unused. And indeed, the 2484 truss shows no loop up to the truncation
> point, these are all different fonts...

No idea, to me, this is not so big number:

$ for dir in /var/cache/fontconfig
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig /etc/X11/fontpath.d; do
printf "%50s:" $dir; find ${dir} -type f | wc -l; done
 /var/cache/fontconfig:408
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig:199
   /etc/X11/fontpath.d:0


[Latest one contains just links to some fonts, presumably created by
fc-cache service]. Here count of sym-links:
$ for dir in /var/cache/fontconfig
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig /etc/X11/fontpath.d; do
printf "%50s:" $dir; find ${dir} -type l | wc -l; done
 /var/cache/fontconfig:0
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig:0
   /etc/X11/fontpath.d:90


Creation time of caches:
$ ls -l /var/cache/fontconfig | grep -v ^total | awk '{printf("%3s %2s
%4s\n", $6,$7, $8)}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
197 Sep 21 11:46
196 Sep 21 11:56
  9 Sep 21 11:49
  3 Sep 21 11:29
  1 Sep 24 09:04
  1 Oct 23 13:39
  1 Oct 23 13:37

$ ls -l /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig | grep -v ^total
| awk '{printf("%3s %2s %4s\n", $6,$7, $8)}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
188 Jan 11 2016
  8 Mar 14 2016
  2 Feb 10 2016
  1 Jan 19 2016
[NOTE: /export/home is not located within rpool, so this stays same
across BEs]

*BUT*, if I mount problematic BE:

$ pfexec beadm mount oi_181018 /beadm

and count files:
$ find /beadm/var/cache/fontconfig/ -type f | wc -l
121138
[I can imagine that, if I have left system running long enough, this
will be much bigger number]

$ find /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/ -type l | wc -l
90

So, font cache fails to "recognize" fonts, and just keeps system busy
with creating cache, over and over.

How to solve that situation?

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević

P.S: (/beadm is mount point of BE which behaves slow)

$ du -shc /beadm/var/cache/fontconfig/ /var/cache/fontconfig/
152M/beadm/var/cache/fontconfig/
15M /var/cache/fontconfig/

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 23/10/2018 15:44, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

...
Since, this is narrowed to fonts re-reading/re-caching - may I ask you
to share contents (at least figures) from your desktop, of font
directories (and packages)?


Sorry, we presently don't have an up-to-date Hipster desktop,
just a constantly changing server that currently doesn't
actively run Mate. Plans are that we will have mate-desktops
running on 2018.10.

The rest is all still on good old oi151_a8, which behaves well...
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 23/10/2018 15:44, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

On 10/23/18 15:02, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 18/10/2018 16:59, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



For what I see from the 2483 time-sliderd truss output, it does the
following for each /etc/X11/fontpath.d/*/ directory:

Could it be that the change of the modification time (2) from 2483
triggers the reread by 2484 (mate-settings-daemon) ?
...

...

So, font cache fails to "recognize" fonts, and just keeps system busy
with creating cache, over and over.
...
How to solve that situation?



Just to check that theory: Could you run the problematic BE and
switch off the time-sliderd ? After settling down, the caches
shouldn't be refreshed anymore if that assumption is correct.

Otherwise, maybe the frequency of directory checking is just too
high, given the vast amount of directories to check, which takes
a considerable amount of time ?
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:45 PM Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst
 wrote:

> On 10/23/18 15:02, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
> > On 18/10/2018 16:59, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> >> On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
> >>> This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
> >>> read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
> >>> thinking the mate font configuration has changed.
> >>
> >> I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
> >> through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
> >> caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
> >> svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
> >> system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
> >> be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
> >> logs for it.
> >>
> >
> > For what I see from the 2483 time-sliderd truss output, it does the
> > following for each /etc/X11/fontpath.d/*/ directory:
> >
> > 1) with a convoluted procedure, produce a lock file .uuid inside
> >that directory
> >
> > 2) Then use utimensat to update access and modification times of
> >that directory   *
> >
> > 3) Open RDONLY  *.cache-n file in /var/cache/fontconfig/
> > /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig/
> > /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.fontconfig/
> >(there are none)
> >
> > 4) Do the same RDWR (there are still none)
> >
> > 5) fstat all .pcf files and fonts.dir and files mentioned therein
> >in the fontpath.d dir and mmap them
> >
> > 6) do something (not seen in truss) and unmap them
> >
> > 7) remove the .uuid file
> >
> > 8) repeat from 1)
> >
> > Could it be that the change of the modification time (2) from 2483
> > triggers the reread by 2484 (mate-settings-daemon) ?
> >
> Hi,
>
> many thanks fo looking at truss files!
>
> No idea modification time changes triggers more actions (could it be)...
> New MATE has (obviously) introduced more checks/processes/etc.
>
> Since, this is narrowed to fonts re-reading/re-caching - may I ask you
> to share contents (at least figures) from your desktop, of font
> directories (and packages)?
>
> > And by the way, if I counted correctly, this system has over 24.000
> > individual fonts, so the caching procedure a) really takes a while,
> > and b) makes no sense at all since almost all of them are obviously
> > unused. And indeed, the 2484 truss shows no loop up to the truncation
> > point, these are all different fonts...
>
> No idea, to me, this is not so big number:
>
> $ for dir in /var/cache/fontconfig
> /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig /etc/X11/fontpath.d; do
> printf "%50s:" $dir; find ${dir} -type f | wc -l; done
>  /var/cache/fontconfig:408
> /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig:199
>/etc/X11/fontpath.d:0
>
>
> [Latest one contains just links to some fonts, presumably created by
> fc-cache service]. Here count of sym-links:
> $ for dir in /var/cache/fontconfig
> /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig /etc/X11/fontpath.d; do
> printf "%50s:" $dir; find ${dir} -type l | wc -l; done
>  /var/cache/fontconfig:0
> /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig:0
>/etc/X11/fontpath.d:90
>
>
> Creation time of caches:
> $ ls -l /var/cache/fontconfig | grep -v ^total | awk '{printf("%3s %2s
> %4s\n", $6,$7, $8)}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
> 197 Sep 21 11:46
> 196 Sep 21 11:56
>   9 Sep 21 11:49
>   3 Sep 21 11:29
>   1 Sep 24 09:04
>   1 Oct 23 13:39
>   1 Oct 23 13:37
>
> $ ls -l /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig | grep -v ^total
> | awk '{printf("%3s %2s %4s\n", $6,$7, $8)}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
> 188 Jan 11 2016
>   8 Mar 14 2016
>   2 Feb 10 2016
>   1 Jan 19 2016
> [NOTE: /export/home is not located within rpool, so this stays same
> across BEs]
>
> *BUT*, if I mount problematic BE:
>
> $ pfexec beadm mount oi_181018 /beadm
>
> and count files:
> $ find /beadm/var/cache/fontconfig/ -type f | wc -l
> 121138
> [I can imagine that, if I have left system running long enough, this
> will be much bigger number]
>
> $ find /beadm/etc/X11/fontpath.d/ -type l | wc -l
> 90
>
> So, font cache fails to "recognize" fonts, and just keeps system busy
> with creating cache, over and over.
>
> How to solve that situation?
>
> With best regards.
> Predrag Zečević
>
> P.S: (/beadm is mount point of BE which behaves slow)
>
> $ du -shc /beadm/var/cache/fontconfig/ /var/cache/fontconfig/
> 152M/beadm/var/cache/fontconfig/
> 15M /var/cache/fontconfig/
>

Would the last two commits applyto your case?
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/commits/master


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>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 23/10/2018 16:05, Aurélien Larcher wrote:

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:45 PM Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst
 wrote:


On 10/23/18 15:02, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 18/10/2018 16:59, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

On 10/18/18 05:55 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

This is strange, why in the world should the settings-daemon
read the fontpathes in an infinite loop ? Looks like its constantly
thinking the mate font configuration has changed.


I don't know about infinite loop, but you'll see libfontconfig iterating
through all the fonts in all the directories when it thinks its font
caches are out of date.   On Solarish systems, we have an SMF service
svc:/application/font/fc-cache to ensure the caches are up-to-date at
system boot and when IPS packages with fonts are installed, so it would
be good to check that's running and not reporting any errors in the SMF
logs for it.



For what I see from the 2483 time-sliderd truss output, it does the
following for each /etc/X11/fontpath.d/*/ directory:

1) with a convoluted procedure, produce a lock file .uuid inside
   that directory

2) Then use utimensat to update access and modification times of
   that directory   *

3) Open RDONLY  *.cache-n file in /var/cache/fontconfig/
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig/
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.fontconfig/
   (there are none)

4) Do the same RDWR (there are still none)

5) fstat all .pcf files and fonts.dir and files mentioned therein
   in the fontpath.d dir and mmap them

6) do something (not seen in truss) and unmap them

7) remove the .uuid file

8) repeat from 1)

Could it be that the change of the modification time (2) from 2483
triggers the reread by 2484 (mate-settings-daemon) ?


Hi,

many thanks fo looking at truss files!

No idea modification time changes triggers more actions (could it be)...
New MATE has (obviously) introduced more checks/processes/etc.



So, font cache fails to "recognize" fonts, and just keeps system busy
with creating cache, over and over.

How to solve that situation?

..

Would the last two commits applyto your case?
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/commits/master



ff5b49be is exactly what I've suspected.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster

[Alan Coopersmith]

On 10/23/18 06:44 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

$ for dir in /var/cache/fontconfig
/export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig /etc/X11/fontpath.d; do
printf "%50s:" $dir; find ${dir} -type f | wc -l; done
  /var/cache/fontconfig:408
 /export/home/predrag_zecevic/.cache/fontconfig:199
/etc/X11/fontpath.d:0


[Latest one contains just links to some fonts, presumably created by
fc-cache service].


/etc/X11/fontpath.d links are created by the packages that install fonts
to put the fonts into the X server font path, for legacy applications
that use the old X11 font system instead of fontconfig.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Tim Mooney]

In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test...:

So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've created 
pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available. Unfortunately, when you 
have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both of them try to use the same 
applications, so you'll have interesting time removing Gnome 2 applications 
from Mate and vice versa.


So what does that mean for an existing hipster install that wishes to
switch to MATE?  Are we supposed to install /mate_install first and then
manually remove a list of gnome-related packages?  Or, would it be better
to remove gnome packages first, then install mate_install?

In either case, is there a list of packages that should be removed?

Thanks for your work on MATE!  I look forward to trying it out.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Tim Mooney писал 16.08.2016 21:22:
In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new 
test...:


So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've created 
pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available. Unfortunately, 
when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both of them try to use 
the same applications, so you'll have interesting time removing Gnome 
2 applications from Mate and vice versa.


So what does that mean for an existing hipster install that wishes to
switch to MATE?  Are we supposed to install /mate_install first and 
then
manually remove a list of gnome-related packages?  Or, would it be 
better

to remove gnome packages first, then install mate_install?


I'd suggest you to install mate_install and then remove mate_install
and the following package list:
https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/gnome2 
.
As for removing gnome2 packages, I still haven't experimented with this 
(but will shortly),

after that will write some instructions.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator]

On 08/16/16 05:12 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

Hello, people.

I wanted to announce availability of Mate some time ago, but there were
some issues, especially when I tried to build Mate Live CD. Good news is
that now most irritating issues (or at least those which I found) are
fixed.

So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've created
pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available. Unfortunately,
when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both of them try to use
the same applications, so you'll have interesting time removing Gnome 2
applications from Mate and vice versa.

Currently Mate packages are

desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
desktop/mate/caja
desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
desktop/mate/marco
desktop/mate/mate-applets
desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
desktop/mate/mate-system-log
desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
desktop/mate/mate-calc
desktop/mate/control-center
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
desktop/mate/mate-media
desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
desktop/mate/mate-panel
desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
terminal/mate-terminal
desktop/mate/mate-themes
desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
editor/pluma
image/viewer/eom
library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop
# Not strictly mate, but gdm brings in too much gnome2
system/display-manager/lightdm
system/display-manager/lightdm/gtk-greeter

Known MATE issues:
- power management is based on upower (hal support removed), so it
doesn't work (affects mate-applets(batstat), mate power manager)
- nautilus zfs integration uses illumos private interfaces and wasn't
ported to caja
- compiz integration to GNOME control center uses gconf settings. To
work with mate code should be migrated to gsettings
- GUI interface to reboot to specific BE is not preserved

As for LightDM, it worked for me, but there was one issue, which I
didn't manage to catch:
- On some conditions when ligthdm is disabled, it fails to switch active
VT back to /dev/vt/0. If you can reproduce it or have some ideas why it
happens (and lightdm does it in sigterm handler), I'll be glad to hear.

Now, about ISOs:
They are available at http://dlc-int.openindiana.org/hipster/20160816/ ,
sha256 checksums are in
http://dlc-int.openindiana.org/hipster/20160816/sha256sums.txt .

Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal
(we tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it
doesn't deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these
are test images and not official snapshots.

We would be glad for you to test them.

We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
snapshot (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and
Gnome one are enough. We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image
after next snapshot (in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
needs, then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Hi!

Thanks for bringing MATE to us!

I have already installed it and it looks faster and better utilizes 
graphic card/monitor (that is first impression on same h/w).


Will keep gnome2 for the moment, until I try everything.

With best regards.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/17/16 08:13 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:


As for removing gnome2 packages, I still haven't experimented with this
(but will shortly),
after that will write some instructions.


The following worked for me:

$ sudo pkg update --be-name oi-2016-08-17
$ sudo beadm mount oi-2016-08-17 /mnt
$ sudo pkg -R /mnt install pkg:/mate_install
$ sudo pkg -R /mnt uninstall pkg:/mate_install
$ sudo pkg -R /mnt uninstall pkg:/mate_install 
desktop/administration/gnome-system-tools 
desktop/archive-manager/file-roller desktop/calculator/gcalctool 
desktop/pdf-viewer/evince desktop/system-monitor/gnome-system-monitor 
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/alacarte documentation/gnome/gnome-user-docs 
editor/gedit gnome/accessibility/gnome-a11y-libs gnome/accessibility/gok 
gnome/accessibility/orca gnome/applet/gnome-applets 
gnome/applet/gnome-fun-applets gnome/applet/gnome-internet-applets 
gnome/applet/gnome-intranet-applets gnome/applet/gnome-utility-applets 
gnome/disk-analyzer/baobab gnome/file-manager/nautilus 
gnome/gnome-dictionary gnome/gnome-log-viewer gnome/gnome-panel 
gnome/gnome-power-manager gnome/gnome-screenshot gnome/gnome-search-tool 
gnome/gnome-session gnome/preferences/control-center 
gnome/speech/gnome-speech 
gnome/speech/gnome-speech/driver/gnome-speech-espeak 
gnome/theme/gnome-themes image/viewer/eog system/display-manager/gdm 
terminal/gnome-terminal gnome/file-manager/nautilus/extension/* 
gnome/file-manager/nautilus desktop/remote-desktop/tsclient 
gnome/accessibility/libgail-gnome gnome/applet/gnome-netstatus 
gnome/applet/quick-lounge-applet library/python/python-gnome-desktop-26 
library/python/python-gnome-desktop-27 gnome/applet/deskbar-applet


# Last command was found in several attempts and started like
$ sudo pkg -R /mnt uninstall pkg:/mate_install 
desktop/administration/gnome-system-tools 
desktop/archive-manager/file-roller desktop/calculator/gcalctool 
desktop/character-map/gucharmap desktop/pdf-viewer/evince 
desktop/system-monitor/gnome-system-monitor 
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/alacarte documentation/gnome/gnome-user-docs 
editor/gedit gnome/accessibility/gnome-a11y-libs gnome/accessibility/gok 
gnome/accessibility/orca gnome/applet/gnome-applets 
gnome/applet/gnome-fun-applets gnome/applet/gnome-internet-applets 
gnome/applet/gnome-intranet-applets gnome/applet/gnome-utility-applets 
gnome/config/gconf gnome/disk-analyzer/baobab 
gnome/file-manager/nautilus gnome/gnome-camera gnome/gnome-dictionary 
gnome/gnome-log-viewer gnome/gnome-panel gnome/gnome-power-manager 
gnome/gnome-remote-desktop gnome/gnome-screenshot 
gnome/gnome-search-tool gnome/gnome-session gnome/media/gnome-media 
gnome/media/gnome-media-player gnome/preferences/control-center 
gnome/speech/gnome-speech 
gnome/speech/gnome-speech/driver/gnome-speech-espeak 
gnome/theme/gnome-icon-theme gnome/theme/gnome-themes 
image/gnome-backgrounds image/viewer/eog system/display-manager/gdm 
terminal/gnome-terminal
# After I looked at dependencies and tried to remove all unnecessary 
without touching something useful (like rythmbox).



Now YOU SHUOLD REMEMBER ABOUT UNMOUNTING NEW BE (I've actually forgot 
about it, see https://www.illumos.org/issues/6464):

$ sudo beadm umount oi-2016-08-17

After reboot I've enabled lightdm and customized new DE a bit, now it 
seems I have decent Mate installation.
Unfortunately, some gnome applications are still required (such as 
rythmbox).


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Dmitry Kozhinov]

it looks faster and better utilizes graphic card/monitor


I have installed OI Mate experimental under Virtual Box, and my 
impressions were just the opposite. It feels sluggish compared to Gnome. 
Not tested on bare metal though.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Gary Mills]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 06:12:45PM +0300, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
> 
> So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've
> created pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available.
> Unfortunately, when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both
> of them try to use the same applications, so you'll have interesting
> time removing Gnome 2 applications from Mate and vice versa.

Is it possible to have both installed but select which one to run?  I
recall that at one time, Solaris 10 offered both CDE and Gnome
desktops.  You could select the one your preferred from the login
screen.  Something similar for OI might be useful.

PS: If there are files that are required by both Mate and Gnome,
you could put them in a desktop common meta-package.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[ken mays via openindiana-discuss]

Gary,
The menu option would suffice for a something minimalistic like IceWM 1.3.8 
versus MATE.
~K


 

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:54 AM, Gary Mills  
wrote:
 

 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 06:12:45PM +0300, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
> 
> So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've
> created pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available.
> Unfortunately, when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both
> of them try to use the same applications, so you'll have interesting
> time removing Gnome 2 applications from Mate and vice versa.

Is it possible to have both installed but select which one to run?  I
recall that at one time, Solaris 10 offered both CDE and Gnome
desktops.  You could select the one your preferred from the login
screen.  Something similar for OI might be useful.

PS: If there are files that are required by both Mate and Gnome,
you could put them in a desktop common meta-package.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator]

On 08/18/16 03:53 PM, Gary Mills wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 06:12:45PM +0300, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:


So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've
created pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available.
Unfortunately, when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both
of them try to use the same applications, so you'll have interesting
time removing Gnome 2 applications from Mate and vice versa.


Is it possible to have both installed but select which one to run?  I
recall that at one time, Solaris 10 offered both CDE and Gnome
desktops.  You could select the one your preferred from the login
screen.  Something similar for OI might be useful.

PS: If there are files that are required by both Mate and Gnome,
you could put them in a desktop common meta-package.



Hi all,

I am running both (and can pick any of them) :-)

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/18/16 04:53 PM, Gary Mills wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 06:12:45PM +0300, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:


So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've
created pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available.
Unfortunately, when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both
of them try to use the same applications, so you'll have interesting
time removing Gnome 2 applications from Mate and vice versa.


Is it possible to have both installed but select which one to run?  I
recall that at one time, Solaris 10 offered both CDE and Gnome
desktops.  You could select the one your preferred from the login
screen.  Something similar for OI might be useful.



Yes, of course.
If you install mate_install meta-package, it will pull in lightdm DM.
If you don't need it and would like to use gdm, you can uninstall 
mate_install, ligthdm and system/display-manager/lightdm/gtk-greeter  .


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster (part II)

[Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst]

Hi all,

I would like to start new discussion (old one is "MATE 1.20 and updated 
GTK+3 for hipster"), because I still have weird problem, and not sure 
where to report it or look further...


It does not matter IF i have *fc-cache* enabled or disabled, something 
is filling in /var/cache/fontconfig directory. Right now:


$ find /var/cache/fontconfig/ -type f | wc -l
519307

$ du -shc /var/cache/fontconfig/
603M/var/cache/fontconfig/

Number of files grows (some commands are failing to list content, 
because it is long list) more IF I am logged in, otherwise (like during 
weekend, it has stagnated: 168000 entries of size ~ 160MB)


Last Friday, I did issued "pfexec pkg fix" which should fix broken 
packages (it has reported several font directories were fixed ownership 
to sys group).


After that I have just emptied that directory ...
Good news is that I have no more high load, but still this growing 
structure.


Tried several dtrace scripts, but no single one shows PID <--> FILE 
relation (most of them expect PID as parameter, but I have no idea which 
process is creating files). All I see files are constantly created...


And, also found this (fills in ~/.xsession-errors file):

Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-predrag_zecevic/fam-
end from FAM server connection

I have found that FAM thing is related to /usr/lib/amd64/gam_server - 
but cannot imagine it is related to /fontconfig issue.


Is it possible that only me is facing this?
If yes, how to find which change (I might made in past on OI - since 
move to /hipster) on my system is causing this?


Many thinks for even reading this.

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević

P.S: During this e-mail writing, number of file grew further:
$ find /var/cache/fontconfig/ -type f | wc -l
526905

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster (part II)

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 30/10/2018 15:38, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to start new discussion (old one is "MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3
for hipster"), because I still have weird problem, and not sure where to report
it or look further...

It does not matter IF i have *fc-cache* enabled or disabled, something is
filling in /var/cache/fontconfig directory. Right now:

$ find /var/cache/fontconfig/ -type f | wc -l
519307

$ du -shc /var/cache/fontconfig/
603M/var/cache/fontconfig/

Number of files grows (some commands are failing to list content, because it is
long list) more IF I am logged in, otherwise (like during weekend, it has
stagnated: 168000 entries of size ~ 160MB)

Last Friday, I did issued "pfexec pkg fix" which should fix broken packages (it
has reported several font directories were fixed ownership to sys group).

After that I have just emptied that directory ...
Good news is that I have no more high load, but still this growing structure.

Tried several dtrace scripts, but no single one shows PID <--> FILE relation
(most of them expect PID as parameter, but I have no idea which process is
creating files). All I see files are constantly created...

And, also found this (fills in ~/.xsession-errors file):

Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-predrag_zecevic/fam-
end from FAM server connection

I have found that FAM thing is related to /usr/lib/amd64/gam_server - but cannot
imagine it is related to /fontconfig issue.

Is it possible that only me is facing this?
If yes, how to find which change (I might made in past on OI - since move to
/hipster) on my system is causing this?

Many thinks for even reading this.

With best regards.
Predrag Zečević

P.S: During this e-mail writing, number of file grew further:
$ find /var/cache/fontconfig/ -type f | wc -l
526905


man fam:
...
DESCRIPTION
   FAM, the File Alteration Monitor, is a subsystem that applications can
   use to be notified when specific files or directories are changed.  It
   is intended as a replacement for mechanisms such as poll and select.


So indeed that potentially can have something to do with your
problem if the process polluting your cache wants the FAM service
and doesn't get it and then falls back to something insane.

And there's still the bug addressed here:

but seemingly not appliying to your case when fc-cache is switched off.

Have you tried disabling time-sliderd, to check if its lock mechanism
triggers the font cache updates ?
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster (part II)

[Rainer J.H. Brandt]

Hi Predrag,

> It does not matter IF i have *fc-cache* enabled or disabled, something 
> is filling in /var/cache/fontconfig directory. Right now:

Perhaps a loop over the /proc subdirectories and doing

  ls -l /proc/$pid/path | grep fontconfig

would reveal the culprit.

Good luck, Rainer
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] MATE 1.20 and updated GTK+3 for hipster (part II)

[Bob Friesenhahn]

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:


P.S: During this e-mail writing, number of file grew further:
$ find /var/cache/fontconfig/ -type f | wc -l
526905


man fam:
...
DESCRIPTION
  FAM, the File Alteration Monitor, is a subsystem that applications can
  use to be notified when specific files or directories are changed.  It
  is intended as a replacement for mechanisms such as poll and select.


So indeed that potentially can have something to do with your
problem if the process polluting your cache wants the FAM service
and doesn't get it and then falls back to something insane.


Recent illumos has added Linux compatibility functions to support LX 
Zone functionality and these compatibility functions might be picked 
up and used by accident by software which targets Linux.  I don't know 
if there is an emulation of inotify(7) but it seems like something 
important to emulate for LX Zones.


Regardless, the Dtrace Toolkit provides scripts (opensnoop and 
iosnoop) which allows observing all I/O activity on the system and so 
it should quickly reveal the offender.


Bob
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