Re: [opensuse] Re:sophos

2005-10-16 Thread Dazzle
Hello,

On 10/17/05, ajtiM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> .
> I run KMail antivir wizard and it told me that it found sophos on my disk. I
> have installed clamav antivir whic KMail wizard find on y disk also but
> programs which i don't have KMail didn't find.

If you are sure you don't have it and KMail says you have it do a bug report.

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Re: [opensuse] Explaining the openSUSE Development Model

2005-10-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 07:16:09AM +1000, Peter Flodin wrote:
> On 17/10/05, Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Security bugs will be fixed ... in the next snapshot. (or when continuois
> > syncing is done, as soon as it is checked in.)
> >
> > Several security updates like for the released products will not be done.
> >
> > Ciao, Marcus
> 
> Ok just some clarification (last time and I will update the wiki and
> don't want to get it wrong :-)
> 
> If we take the current state where we have a released 10.0 and 10.1 in alpha.
> 
> 1. All fixes/updates in upstream packages are evaluated and applied to
> the EDGE stream.

Yes.

> 2. Security fixes that are severe (like Firefox 1.07) are also applied
> to released 10.0 and published as an update.
>a) Is there any guideline on the selection criteria (or does
> 'severe' sum it up?)

Hmm?

Nothing has changed from 9.x to 10.0, security updates happen as before.

>b) For how long are severe security fixes applied to Released? 6
> months until the next GM release?

This happens like it was for the last years.

For box releases we usually do that for 2 years.


If EDGE still gets frozen and released every 6 months there is probably
no need to change that cycle and currently no one has stepped up to me
and told me that this will change.

Ciao, Marcus (SUSE Security Teamlead)

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Re: [opensuse] Firefox multimedia plugins

2005-10-16 Thread Aschwin Marsman
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, houghi wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 08:52:37AM +0200, Aschwin Marsman wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, houghi wrote:
> > 
> > > What must I install to get video and  the like working in Firefox? MPlayer
> > > works, so that is not the issue. I just would like to see the video's
> > > inline, like I did with my 9.1.
> > 
> > For this I used mplayerplug-in. I normally use the one from packman,
> > but currently there is no 10.0 version:
> 
> Ah, OK, then I have not overlooked it. Will wait a bit. It is not as if it
> is something I can live without.

Currently there this isn't a mplayerplug-in from packman:
http://packman.links2linux.org/?action=319

Is this a technical issue or am I too impatient?

> houghi
 
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Re: [opensuse] www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Aschwin Marsman
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Aschwin Marsman wrote:

Christoph, thanks for your replies.

> > > Please, don't try to act naive! YaST isn't bound to KDE or GNOME - why 
> > > should we reinvent the wheel?
> >
> > Because YaST is currently based on Qt, it wouldn't feel native in GNOME.
> 
> YaST has a QT and an Ncurses frontend. It's just a matter of writing a GTK 
> frontend - but apparent nobody has done this so far. There are other fish 
> to fry...

This is was what I said in the email: if the backend is correctly implemented,
everybody can implement a frontend the way they like:
- GNOME based
- web based
- a toolkit idependent library, so you can choose which actual toolkit you
  want to use: Qt, GTK, ...
- ...

> > > > As a usability example: I would like to have the ability to make 
> > > > some improvements (in my opinion) to e.g. you: When downloading the 
> > > > patches and everything went will I don't want to press the Finish 
> > > > button myself, I would like a checkbox that gives me the option to 
> > > > specify the behaviour I described above. When will development be 
> > > > open for these kind of issues, and who will decide if a proposed 
> > > > patch will be included or not?
> > > 
> > > The development is already open - just use Bugzilla to interact with 
> > > the YaST developers on this. But please note, that there will be quite 
> > > some redevelopment on the YaST2 Packagemanager + YOU for 10.1...

Where can I read what the current plans are for YaST2? I can only spent my
time once like everybody else, is it discussed on the opensuse-edge mailing
list? Where can I find it on the opensuse.org website?

> > That depends on your definition of open: using Bugzilla to report a bug 
> > or issue a feature request is usefull, but open development to me would 
> > be that I can take the source, make a patch which does what I would like 
> > and sent that to a mailing list for discussion/review. Do we have that 
> > kind of openess already? Is it supposed to be like that in the (near) 
> > future?
> 
> We had that kind of openness from day 0 - just go ahead, file a bugreport, 
> attach a patch and discuss it with the developers. But be aware of the 
> fact that we might not accept your patch - which has nothing todo with 
> openness, but with the fact that the responsible developer / project 
> manager will have the final say.

This means Novell employees are the responsible developer / project manager?
Are can somebody from the opensuse community be also responsible for certain
packages? E.g. vim 6.4 is released this weekend and I would like a rpm for this:
will it be available in the SUSE or other available YaST repositories or should
I create my own?

> Regards
>   Christoph
 
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Re: [opensuse] Sound and Opensuse 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Gunnar Håland

Gunnar Håland wrote:

Hans-Peter Holler wrote:

alsasound is not working here, too. Turion64 notebook with ATI chips.
I added "modprobe snd_atiixp" into /etc/init.d/alsasound like this:

...
# See how we were called.
case "$1" in
   start)
 modprobe snd_atiixp
 if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then
 start_rest
 fi
 ;;
...

and that made it work.

Same for me. I use this more general hack:
case "$1" in
#  start)
#   if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then
#   start_rest
#   fi
#;;
...
  start|reload|restart)
$0 unload
echo -n "Starting sound driver"
load_modules && start_rest
# hack - in case the mixer isn't restored
(sleep 1; $alsactl -f $asoundcfg restore)
rc_status
;;

Hans-Peter

BTW: Same behaviour in opensuse 10.1 Alpha1 (alsa-1.0.9-25)

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Somehow I think this did it. After a reboot I have sound.
But can someone tell me why Yast and Opensuse does not like my soundcard 
anymore.

Gunnar


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No it did not. This morning the sound is still missing.
hmmm.
Gunnar

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[opensuse] Posting on openSUSE

2005-10-16 Thread houghi
Can people please NOT toppost. It makes things extremely unreadable.
Take a look at one of the three links in my signature on the how and why.

As it is now, the list becomes almost unreadable, unless you follow each
and every thread all the time or take extra time scrolling back and forth.

Also I would like the lists maintainers of the list to take a stand in this.
I really would like to know what your opion is on this, even if it is "I
don't care".

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RE: [opensuse] development speed on list

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
Alright, I feel I have to defend those of us who use this forum for
technical issues. :)

Have you tried to use any of the Suse forums to resolve an issue?  As
and example:  That wireless issue I posted yesterday has been posted for
2 days on 3 different forums without a single useful response.  With the
help of this mailing list, I was able to get it resolved in less than 24
hours.

So to all those out there who have help me over the last 24 hours
cheers!  As you may have noticed you inspired me to help out a few
others too. ;)

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Winston Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:28 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] development speed on list


Many Thanx for the Info ... I might just switch to
that list instead.

Didnt know it xisted.

Thanx & yeah .. better not mention the F - word ..
forum :-)

--- Peter Flodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> All valid points, except for the fact that
> development discussions for
> 10.1 should be on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> list   :-)
> 
> So this general list is doomed with exactly the
> issues you mention.
> Where is that web forum? (Oops! That has ruined this
> thread for about
> 20 posts:-)
> 
> Pflodo
> 
>
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[opensuse] Using openvpn as transparent tunnel

2005-10-16 Thread Alexander S. Usov
Hi!

Does somebody has an experience on creating a "transparen" tunnel over
openvpn?

What I have tried is a slight modification (just to make it work) of 
/usr/share/doc/packages/openvpn/contrib/openvpn-fwmarkroute-1.00/fwmarkroute.*

As a result, I can see a ping replies going over the tunnel, but due to some 
reason they don't reach the applications.

The scheme of what I have right now is:

 |work|  < openvpn tunnel -> |home|

here work and home are 2 machines, with an openvpn endpoints 10.1.0.(1|2) 
respectively. The tunnel between them forks fine.

Afterwards I add on home the following:

ip rule add fwmark 2 table vpn.out
iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -p "$proto" -d "$remote" --dport "$remote_port" \
-j ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -d "$remote_network" \
-j MARK --set-mark 2
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o "$1" -j SNAT --to-source "$4"
ip route add "$remote_network" via "$5" table vpn.out
ip route flush cache

With this a "ping work" produces output like
$ tcpdump -i tun0
04:32:47.530487 IP 10.1.0.1 > kvip88: ICMP echo request, 
04:32:47.547018 IP kvip88 > 10.1.0.1: ICMP echo reply, .

but the packets don't reach the applications.
I believe that it's not a firewall issue, as I see the same trouble even with 
firewall switched off.

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Re: [opensuse] development speed on list

2005-10-16 Thread Winston Graeme

Many Thanx for the Info ... I might just switch to
that list instead.

Didnt know it xisted.

Thanx & yeah .. better not mention the F - word ..
forum :-)

--- Peter Flodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> All valid points, except for the fact that
> development discussions for
> 10.1 should be on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> list   :-)
> 
> So this general list is doomed with exactly the
> issues you mention.
> Where is that web forum? (Oops! That has ruined this
> thread for about
> 20 posts:-)
> 
> Pflodo
> 
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RE: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
Thanks for the tip, but even with that setting I still had to have
auto_mode set to open to get it to work.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:00 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 04:55:14PM -0700, Daniel Hatfield wrote:

> Thanks!  Although your fix didn't fix my issue, it put me on the right
> track.  There appears to be bug in 10.0 that even if your key (I'm
using
> wep) is pre-shared, you need to set the option to open!?  That's just
weird
> as it shouldn't work that way at all, but it does.  I set my
Authentication
> Mode to open instead of preshared (the option I had to use in 9.3 and
on
> windows) and now it works.

When I converted from 9.3 to 10.0, my Netgear wireless card stopped
working.
I did some research and found that adding 

  PREFER_WPA_SUPPLICANT='no'

... to the /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan-bus-pci-:03:00.0 script
fixed it.  You might give that a try.  

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RE: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease address using YAST

2005-10-16 Thread Nathaniel Bolivar
i was able to make it work now but does anyone know
how to do it in yast that comes with suse 10? it was
available before with sles9 under host management. it
could been a lot simpler for those not so experienced
linux users if it can be configured through yast.
 
--- Daniel Hatfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gotcha.  What your want is to setup a DHCP
> reservation.
> 
> I don't know how you do it in Yast, but I believe
> you can doing it by editing dhcpd.conf.  Try
> appending the following to it:
> 
> 
> host yourhostname
> {
>  hardware ethernet 00:50:da:de:3a:e4;
>  fixed-address 192.168.200.10;
> }
> 
> Replace the series of numbers and colons on the
> hardware Ethernet line the Mac address your trying
> to create a reservation for. Then replace the ip
> address with the reserved address.
> 
> Restart dhcpd.  Typing: rcdhcpd at the cl should do
> it for you.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathaniel Bolivar
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:27 PM
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Subject: RE: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease
> address using YAST
> 
> what i wanted is for a specific client (based on mac
> address) to get a specific ip address everytime it
> request for an ip address from the dhcp server.
> 
> --- Daniel Hatfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure I understand your question.  Are you
> > talking about
> > assigning a specific lease length using the DHCP
> > server  for clients you
> > provide addresses for.  Or are you trying to get
> > your client to use a
> > certain leases of a certain length?
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nathaniel Bolivar
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:32 AM
> > To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> > Subject: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease
> > address using YAST
> > 
> > 
> > is it possible to configure DHCP fixed-lease
> > addresses
> > using yast in suse linux 10. i'm sure that it is
> > possible in sles9.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Michael Nelson
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 04:55:14PM -0700, Daniel Hatfield wrote:

> Thanks!  Although your fix didn't fix my issue, it put me on the right
> track.  There appears to be bug in 10.0 that even if your key (I'm using
> wep) is pre-shared, you need to set the option to open!?  That's just weird
> as it shouldn't work that way at all, but it does.  I set my Authentication
> Mode to open instead of preshared (the option I had to use in 9.3 and on
> windows) and now it works.

When I converted from 9.3 to 10.0, my Netgear wireless card stopped working.
I did some research and found that adding 

  PREFER_WPA_SUPPLICANT='no'

... to the /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan-bus-pci-:03:00.0 script
fixed it.  You might give that a try.  

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Re: [opensuse] Problems running beagle

2005-10-16 Thread Alexander S. Usov
On Friday 14 October 2005 08:33, ben knurr wrote:
> On 10/12/05, Alexander S. Usov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...
> > This one is resolved. The problem was that I was too brave adding
> > external repositories and included supplementary/GNOME.
> >
> > However there is a second question -- how do I make beagle to start up
> > upon
> > login and to respond to the hotkeys?
>
> if you create a file .runbeagle in your homedirectory beagle deamon will
> start automatically.
> you can do

Am I missing something, or it is really documented only in the release notes 
of 9.3?

> >touch .runbeagle
>
> for it.
> in the gnome-control-center there is a point search and indexing where you
> can set best (the search tool) and the hotkey to on.

But this hotkey didn't worked for KDE.
Does it needs gnome-settings-daemon running?

But, anyway, I have already removed beagle, as in the few test-cases it shoved 
to be quite ineffective :( It's really pity -- I have expected much more from 
it.

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RE: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease address using YAST

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
Gotcha.  What your want is to setup a DHCP reservation.

I don't know how you do it in Yast, but I believe you can doing it by editing 
dhcpd.conf.  Try appending the following to it:


host yourhostname
{
 hardware ethernet 00:50:da:de:3a:e4;
 fixed-address 192.168.200.10;
}

Replace the series of numbers and colons on the hardware Ethernet line the Mac 
address your trying to create a reservation for. Then replace the ip address 
with the reserved address.

Restart dhcpd.  Typing: rcdhcpd at the cl should do it for you.

Good luck.

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Nathaniel Bolivar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:27 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease address using YAST

what i wanted is for a specific client (based on mac
address) to get a specific ip address everytime it
request for an ip address from the dhcp server.

--- Daniel Hatfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not sure I understand your question.  Are you
> talking about
> assigning a specific lease length using the DHCP
> server  for clients you
> provide addresses for.  Or are you trying to get
> your client to use a
> certain leases of a certain length?
> 
> Daniel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathaniel Bolivar
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:32 AM
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Subject: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease
> address using YAST
> 
> 
> is it possible to configure DHCP fixed-lease
> addresses
> using yast in suse linux 10. i'm sure that it is
> possible in sles9.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [opensuse] development speed on list

2005-10-16 Thread JBScout [Thomas Lodewick]

Peter Flodin schrieb:


On 17/10/05, Winston Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Maybe its just me .. & I might just be blind ...

But this list now looks a lot more like :

"I now have V10 & have this prob .. pleaese help" ...

Than actual things about V10.1 .

I havent read anyone mentioning the new developemnt
realease really .

What is everyones opinion on my moaning ?

:-)
   



All valid points, except for the fact that development discussions for
10.1 should be on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list   :-)

So this general list is doomed with exactly the issues you mention.
Where is that web forum? (Oops! That has ruined this thread for about
20 posts:-)
 


LOL

I think some people will give you these 20 points back ;)


Pflodo

 


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RE: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
Gulli,

Thanks!  Although your fix didn't fix my issue, it put me on the right track.  
There appears to be bug in 10.0 that even if your key (I'm using wep) is 
pre-shared, you need to set the option to open!?  That's just weird as it 
shouldn't work that way at all, but it does.  I set my Authentication Mode to 
open instead of preshared (the option I had to use in 9.3 and on windows) and 
now it works.

Thanks for the tip!

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Guðlaugur Jóhannesson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:15 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

Daniel Hatfield wrote:
> If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct setting 
> (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that the security 
> mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my settings from the 
> CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the command line isn't the end 
> of the world, but it is a digression.

Have you tried changing the corresponding ifcfg file in 
/etc/sysconfig/network?  YaST does not set the wireless up correctly for 
me as it always ends up in restricted mode.  What I do is add the word 
open after the WEP key (but within the quotes) in that file and that 
does the trick for me.

Cheers
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RE: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease address using YAST

2005-10-16 Thread Nathaniel Bolivar
what i wanted is for a specific client (based on mac
address) to get a specific ip address everytime it
request for an ip address from the dhcp server.

--- Daniel Hatfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not sure I understand your question.  Are you
> talking about
> assigning a specific lease length using the DHCP
> server  for clients you
> provide addresses for.  Or are you trying to get
> your client to use a
> certain leases of a certain length?
> 
> Daniel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathaniel Bolivar
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:32 AM
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Subject: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease
> address using YAST
> 
> 
> is it possible to configure DHCP fixed-lease
> addresses
> using yast in suse linux 10. i'm sure that it is
> possible in sles9.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [opensuse] Bugzilla problems (was: Re: [opensuse] VFS oopses)

2005-10-16 Thread Randall R Schulz
Christoph,

On Sunday 16 October 2005 09:39, Christoph Thiel wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > Ever since I started trying to submit a bug report yesterday, I get
> > nothing but this once I log in:
> >
> > ...
>
> Novell IS&T has informed me on the ongoing bugzilla problems. They
> are working on fixing this problem, but might not be able to fix them
> until Monday. To validate your newly created accounts, until Bugzilla
> is fixed, please use
>
>  
> https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/protected/validateEmail.jsp
>
> as a workaround.

Hey, thanks. I'll do that.

...

Except that it just takes me to the Novell.com home page. Manually going 
back to bugzilla after that authentication (which I did back when this 
problem originally cropped up) just shows me the same old diagnostic 
page.


> Regards
>   Christoph


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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Guðlaugur Jóhannesson

Daniel Hatfield wrote:

If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct setting 
(essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that the security 
mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my settings from the CL 
and it connects right up. Connecting from the command line isn't the end of the 
world, but it is a digression.


Have you tried changing the corresponding ifcfg file in 
/etc/sysconfig/network?  YaST does not set the wireless up correctly for 
me as it always ends up in restricted mode.  What I do is add the word 
open after the WEP key (but within the quotes) in that file and that 
does the trick for me.


Cheers
Gulli

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[opensuse] Re: www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Alexander Antoniades
The participation link still doesn't answer where decisions regarding
the future of OpenSuse are made and how people can influence their
outcome.

I realize there are probably private mailing lists and such where
overall decisions on feature sets are made and goals are set, and they
don't need the needless pestering of people who aren't actively
involved in the project, but some insight into this process would go a
long way.

>From my perspective exploring Linux over the past couple of years it
has been this "last mile" of communication that has been downfall of
the community-based distribution model. I realize that if I download
the latest development builds, hang out on IRC, monitor the
development mailings lists and such I'll have some idea on where
OpenSuse is headed with new releases, even if I'm still not sure what
I can do to change it. But if I'm someone who's just using 10.0
everyday, who files bug reports and answers questions in forums, I
really don't have any idea on potential big changes until they are
more or less done.

This IMHO is the challenge for distributions is to actually build a
true community and not be so top down/insular as to exclude anyone
who's not completely involved in development. This is why people
change distributions so much, is because major changes like spatial
nautilus just show up in a new build and there's not much the average
user can do to keep it from happening or even know it's coming.

Thanks,

Sander


On 10/16/05, Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Alexander Antoniades wrote:
>
> > I do think that this is the problem with communication in many open
> > source projects is that we think that signing up for a users mailing
> > list will give us some insight and say in future releases, whereas it
> > seems to be more of a first level support situation. Some of what this
> > thread is talking about goes beyond offering patches and bug reports and
> > more into the general direction of the project. For example "please
> > don't make OpenSuse yet-another-gtk-centric distribution" isn't exactly
> > a bug report/patch situation. How does someone who's not a developer or
> > Novell employee get involved in the openness you discuss, and find out
> > what's being planned for upcoming releases?
>
> There are many ways to get involved... I'd recommend you to read [1]
> first. Running the latests development version that's available on
> openSUSE.org would be another way to find out where the develment is
> happening. If you want to suggest new features or packages, the wishlists
> on the wiki would be the place to go...
>
>
> Regards
>   Christoph
>
> [1] http://www.opensuse.org/How_to_participate
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[opensuse] Re:sophos

2005-10-16 Thread ajtiM
.
I run KMail antivir wizard and it told me that it found sophos on my disk. I 
have installed clamav antivir whic KMail wizard find on y disk also but 
programs which i don't have KMail didn't find.

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread jim
your right, i wasn't thinking right. All you need is someone giving bad 
info.

Sorry about that.
Jim


Daniel Hatfield wrote:


It is being run on a laptop.  Suse automatically downloaded all of the
ipw2200 files for me.

I don't understand why PCMCIA would be part of the problem.  The ipw2200
is a mini-pci card.  That said, I'll try anything.

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 3:24 PM

To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

Is this ipw2200 card being run on a Laptop if so, your not properly 
setup under pcmcia.

I think, but not sure that ipw2100-2200 is run on laptops only.
Is the ipw2200 driver part of the Suse install or do you have to install

another driver?
jim


jim wrote:

 


Daniel Hatfield wrote:

   


Benjamin,

Thanks for the suggestion, but the only way I can get it to work is
 


by
 


running iwconfig and dhcpcd.  They all is well.  Do you have to run
those steps every time you boot?  If so, I have a script I wrote for
configuring my wifi card (a work around to my current issues).  It
allows me to select the wireless network I'm on and then sets the
 


rest
 


up for me.  If you would like it, I'll send it to you.

Thanks for trying to help,
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 
October 16, 2005 5:52 AM

To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0


Login as root and try this:

# > ifdown ethX
# > killall dhcpcd
# > ifup ethX
# > dhcpcd

Substitute the 'X' with the number of your wireless card... e.g. 
"eth0" or "eth1"


It worked for me... but it's pretty annoying that there's no GUI with
 



 


a button saying "renew WLAN DHCP".

/Benjamin

Daniel Hatfield wrote:



 


Hello all,

This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.

After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes
   


it's a
 

 
   




 


clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I
 
   


know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I
 


know
 


the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and
dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So,
 


this
 


is what happens:


 

If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct 
setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and
   


that
 

 
   


the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of
 


my
 


settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the
command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.


 


I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if
   



 


can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.

Thanks,
Daniel


 
   



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I use the ipw2100 on Fedora4 on a Dell Laptop inspiron8600 and my DSL 
modem requires a encryption code before It will connect to the router
   


is
 


there a possibility that your in the same boat.
Also there are drivers for the ipw2100 and ipw2200 and each card 
requires it's own driver.

For the ipw2100 to run on Fedora I have three rpms
ipw2100-kmdl# which is the kernel module for the kernel your
   


running
 


ipw2100 # which is the driver
ipw2100-firmware   #which is the firmware for the ipw2100

The ipw2200 use the packages only for the ipw2200.
I want to  put Suse10 on my laptop  but getting the ipw211 to work is 
why  I'm holding off.

I will be watching your post to see if you get it working.

Jim

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RE: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
It is being run on a laptop.  Suse automatically downloaded all of the
ipw2200 files for me.

I don't understand why PCMCIA would be part of the problem.  The ipw2200
is a mini-pci card.  That said, I'll try anything.

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 3:24 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

Is this ipw2200 card being run on a Laptop if so, your not properly 
setup under pcmcia.
I think, but not sure that ipw2100-2200 is run on laptops only.
Is the ipw2200 driver part of the Suse install or do you have to install

another driver?
jim


jim wrote:

> Daniel Hatfield wrote:
>
>> Benjamin,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, but the only way I can get it to work is
by
>> running iwconfig and dhcpcd.  They all is well.  Do you have to run
>> those steps every time you boot?  If so, I have a script I wrote for
>> configuring my wifi card (a work around to my current issues).  It
>> allows me to select the wireless network I'm on and then sets the
rest
>> up for me.  If you would like it, I'll send it to you.
>>
>> Thanks for trying to help,
>> Daniel
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Benjamin Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 
>> October 16, 2005 5:52 AM
>> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
>> Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0
>>
>>
>> Login as root and try this:
>>
>> # > ifdown ethX
>> # > killall dhcpcd
>> # > ifup ethX
>> # > dhcpcd
>>
>> Substitute the 'X' with the number of your wireless card... e.g. 
>> "eth0" or "eth1"
>>
>> It worked for me... but it's pretty annoying that there's no GUI with

>> a button saying "renew WLAN DHCP".
>>
>> /Benjamin
>>
>> Daniel Hatfield wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.
>>>
>>> After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes
it's a
>>>   
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I
>>>   
>>
>> know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I
know
>> the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and
>> dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So,
this
>> is what happens:
>>  
>>
>>> If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct 
>>> setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and
that
>>>   
>>
>> the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of
my
>> settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the
>> command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.
>>  
>>
>>> I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if

>>> can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
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>>
> I use the ipw2100 on Fedora4 on a Dell Laptop inspiron8600 and my DSL 
> modem requires a encryption code before It will connect to the router
is
> there a possibility that your in the same boat.
> Also there are drivers for the ipw2100 and ipw2200 and each card 
> requires it's own driver.
> For the ipw2100 to run on Fedora I have three rpms
> ipw2100-kmdl# which is the kernel module for the kernel your
running
> ipw2100 # which is the driver
> ipw2100-firmware   #which is the firmware for the ipw2100
>
> The ipw2200 use the packages only for the ipw2200.
> I want to  put Suse10 on my laptop  but getting the ipw211 to work is 
> why  I'm holding off.
> I will be watching your post to see if you get it working.
>
> Jim
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread jim
Is this ipw2200 card being run on a Laptop if so, your not properly 
setup under pcmcia.

I think, but not sure that ipw2100-2200 is run on laptops only.
Is the ipw2200 driver part of the Suse install or do you have to install 
another driver?

jim


jim wrote:


Daniel Hatfield wrote:


Benjamin,

Thanks for the suggestion, but the only way I can get it to work is by
running iwconfig and dhcpcd.  They all is well.  Do you have to run
those steps every time you boot?  If so, I have a script I wrote for
configuring my wifi card (a work around to my current issues).  It
allows me to select the wireless network I'm on and then sets the rest
up for me.  If you would like it, I'll send it to you.

Thanks for trying to help,
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 
October 16, 2005 5:52 AM

To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0


Login as root and try this:

# > ifdown ethX
# > killall dhcpcd
# > ifup ethX
# > dhcpcd

Substitute the 'X' with the number of your wireless card... e.g. 
"eth0" or "eth1"


It worked for me... but it's pretty annoying that there's no GUI with 
a button saying "renew WLAN DHCP".


/Benjamin

Daniel Hatfield wrote:

 


Hello all,

This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.

After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes it's a
  



 


clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I
  


know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I know
the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and
dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So, this
is what happens:
 

If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct 
setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that
  


the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my
settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the
command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.
 

I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if 
can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.


Thanks,
Daniel


  




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I use the ipw2100 on Fedora4 on a Dell Laptop inspiron8600 and my DSL 
modem requires a encryption code before It will connect to the router is

there a possibility that your in the same boat.
Also there are drivers for the ipw2100 and ipw2200 and each card 
requires it's own driver.

For the ipw2100 to run on Fedora I have three rpms
ipw2100-kmdl# which is the kernel module for the kernel your running
ipw2100 # which is the driver
ipw2100-firmware   #which is the firmware for the ipw2100

The ipw2200 use the packages only for the ipw2200.
I want to  put Suse10 on my laptop  but getting the ipw211 to work is 
why  I'm holding off.

I will be watching your post to see if you get it working.

Jim

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Re: [opensuse] development speed on list

2005-10-16 Thread Peter Flodin
On 17/10/05, Winston Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe its just me .. & I might just be blind ...
>
> But this list now looks a lot more like :
>
> "I now have V10 & have this prob .. pleaese help" ...
>
> Than actual things about V10.1 .
>
> I havent read anyone mentioning the new developemnt
> realease really .
>
> What is everyones opinion on my moaning ?
>
> :-)

All valid points, except for the fact that development discussions for
10.1 should be on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list   :-)

So this general list is doomed with exactly the issues you mention.
Where is that web forum? (Oops! That has ruined this thread for about
20 posts:-)

Pflodo

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Re: [opensuse] Explaining the openSUSE Development Model

2005-10-16 Thread Peter Flodin
On 17/10/05, Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Security bugs will be fixed ... in the next snapshot. (or when continuois
> syncing is done, as soon as it is checked in.)
>
> Several security updates like for the released products will not be done.
>
> Ciao, Marcus

Ok just some clarification (last time and I will update the wiki and
don't want to get it wrong :-)

If we take the current state where we have a released 10.0 and 10.1 in alpha.

1. All fixes/updates in upstream packages are evaluated and applied to
the EDGE stream.
2. Security fixes that are severe (like Firefox 1.07) are also applied
to released 10.0 and published as an update.
   a) Is there any guideline on the selection criteria (or does
'severe' sum it up?)
   b) For how long are severe security fixes applied to Released? 6
months until the next GM release?

Pflodo

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Re: [opensuse] Sound and Opensuse 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Gunnar Håland

Hans-Peter Holler wrote:

alsasound is not working here, too. Turion64 notebook with ATI chips.
I added "modprobe snd_atiixp" into /etc/init.d/alsasound like this:

...
# See how we were called.
case "$1" in
   start)
 modprobe snd_atiixp
 if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then
 start_rest
 fi
 ;;
...

and that made it work.

Same for me. I use this more general hack:
case "$1" in
#  start)
#   if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then
#   start_rest
#   fi
#;;
...
  start|reload|restart)
$0 unload
echo -n "Starting sound driver"
load_modules && start_rest
# hack - in case the mixer isn't restored
(sleep 1; $alsactl -f $asoundcfg restore)
rc_status
;;

Hans-Peter

BTW: Same behaviour in opensuse 10.1 Alpha1 (alsa-1.0.9-25)

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Somehow I think this did it. After a reboot I have sound.
But can someone tell me why Yast and Opensuse does not like my soundcard 
anymore.

Gunnar


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Re: [opensuse] sophos

2005-10-16 Thread Dazzle
Hi,

On 10/16/05, ajtiM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I run Ativirus-Wizard in KMail and it foud Sophos antivirus? I didn't install
> Sophos antivirus prgram and i don't know and i didn't find a dir where
> program is?

Sophos is a commercial product and it's not integrated with SUSE.
KMail gives you the opportunity to use it if you have it. You can find
more details about Sophos Antivirus at http://www.sophos.com/

Best wishes,
--
Damian Mihai Liviu
Phone: +40741226993
Yahoo: liviudm_cisco
URL: http://liviudm.blogspot.com


[opensuse] sophos

2005-10-16 Thread ajtiM
Hi!

I run Ativirus-Wizard in KMail and it foud Sophos antivirus? I didn't install 
Sophos antivirus prgram and i don't know and i didn't find a dir where 
program is?

Thanks,

Mitja

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Re: [opensuse] Open Suse installation problem, help!

2005-10-16 Thread Matt Horsnell
I've tried that, its ide=nodma and is set in the so called "safe" 
settings, but it didn't make any difference unfortunately. I did however 
find this bug #115022 in bugzilla.novell.com which is the exact problem 
I'm getting.


But its not clear when it'll be resolved so for now I'm stuck!

jim wrote:

Matt Horsnell wrote:


Hi,

I am having a problem installing openSuse (suse 10 OSS) on one of my
machines, the other installations went fine (so I know the disks work 
and I

am not a complete novice at this).

The machine that suse won't install on, is an Asus Pundit AS with the
SiS651 chipset, a MAXTOR 80GB HDD, Celeron-D 2.8GHz ... I boot off the
installation CD, and when it gets to the part in installation called
"Analysing the Computer", it errors with the following message:

Error
No hard disks were found for the installation.
Please check your hardware!

I know my hard disk is there, and it is still mountable in knoppix, I 
have

tried formatting it, I have tried installing with ACPI off, and in safe
mode and with insmod=ide-generic, all to no avail. Does anyone know 
what is

going on here, is it the sis5513 module not recognising my chipset?

I also notice the following errors in other terminals

linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete

Error }
linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
linux kernel: hda: failed opcode was: 0xea
linux kernel: hda: wcache flush failed!

There doesn't appear to be a problem physically, because I have since
installed knoppix and can use the drive just fine, but I want to clean
install openSuse on this machine.

Please if anyone has any ideas I'd be very grateful


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In Fedora, if we have drive problems we feed it the command nodma just 
before installation. How to do in Suse I don't know.

If Knoppix will read it , it has to be something in Suse.

Jim

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Re: [opensuse] Open Suse installation problem, help!

2005-10-16 Thread jim

Matt Horsnell wrote:


Hi,

I am having a problem installing openSuse (suse 10 OSS) on one of my
machines, the other installations went fine (so I know the disks work 
and I

am not a complete novice at this).

The machine that suse won't install on, is an Asus Pundit AS with the
SiS651 chipset, a MAXTOR 80GB HDD, Celeron-D 2.8GHz ... I boot off the
installation CD, and when it gets to the part in installation called
"Analysing the Computer", it errors with the following message:

Error
No hard disks were found for the installation.
Please check your hardware!

I know my hard disk is there, and it is still mountable in knoppix, I 
have

tried formatting it, I have tried installing with ACPI off, and in safe
mode and with insmod=ide-generic, all to no avail. Does anyone know 
what is

going on here, is it the sis5513 module not recognising my chipset?

I also notice the following errors in other terminals

linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete

Error }
linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
linux kernel: hda: failed opcode was: 0xea
linux kernel: hda: wcache flush failed!

There doesn't appear to be a problem physically, because I have since
installed knoppix and can use the drive just fine, but I want to clean
install openSuse on this machine.

Please if anyone has any ideas I'd be very grateful


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In Fedora, if we have drive problems we feed it the command nodma just 
before installation. How to do in Suse I don't know.

If Knoppix will read it , it has to be something in Suse.

Jim

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RE: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
Jim,

It is working, just not through Yast.  I've been writing all of these
email using it.  I use the script I wrote as a work around.  I makes it
very easy (not as easy as it would be with Yast).  Using my script all
you need to do is open a terminal a root and run the script.  It then
asks you "Where do you want to log on?"  I've set up 3 options for
myself, but you can set up as many as you like.  If decide to setup 10
and want my script just ask.  It's my first attempt at bash scripting,
but it works.

Thanks again,
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:43 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

Daniel Hatfield wrote:

>Benjamin,
>
>Thanks for the suggestion, but the only way I can get it to work is by
>running iwconfig and dhcpcd.  They all is well.  Do you have to run
>those steps every time you boot?  If so, I have a script I wrote for
>configuring my wifi card (a work around to my current issues).  It
>allows me to select the wireless network I'm on and then sets the rest
>up for me.  If you would like it, I'll send it to you.
>
>Thanks for trying to help,
>Daniel
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Benjamin Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:52 AM
>To: opensuse@opensuse.org
>Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0
>
>
>Login as root and try this:
>
># > ifdown ethX
># > killall dhcpcd
># > ifup ethX
># > dhcpcd
>
>Substitute the 'X' with the number of your wireless card... e.g. "eth0"

>or "eth1"
>
>It worked for me... but it's pretty annoying that there's no GUI with a

>button saying "renew WLAN DHCP".
>
>/Benjamin
>
>Daniel Hatfield wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.
>>
>>After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes it's
a
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I
>>
>>
>know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I know
>the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and
>dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So, this
>is what happens:
>  
>
>>If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct 
>>setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that
>>
>>
>the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my
>settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the
>command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.
>  
>
>>I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if 
>>can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Daniel
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
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I use the ipw2100 on Fedora4 on a Dell Laptop inspiron8600 and my DSL 
modem requires a encryption code before It will connect to the router is
there a possibility that your in the same boat.
Also there are drivers for the ipw2100 and ipw2200 and each card 
requires it's own driver.
For the ipw2100 to run on Fedora I have three rpms
ipw2100-kmdl# which is the kernel module for the kernel your running
ipw2100 # which is the driver
ipw2100-firmware   #which is the firmware for the ipw2100

The ipw2200 use the packages only for the ipw2200.
I want to  put Suse10 on my laptop  but getting the ipw211 to work is 
why  I'm holding off.
I will be watching your post to see if you get it working.

Jim

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Re: [opensuse] suse repositories

2005-10-16 Thread houghi
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 09:07:34AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just tried to find these infos (additional repositories) using the 
> "front door" www.opensuse.org. And I was not able to get this info. 
> Only searching the mailing list offers this URL. Maybe it is a good 
> idea to place a link to this page on the Download page of opensuse.org.

http://openSUSE.org -> Documentation -> User Documentation -> Installation

It has already been discussed to change some of the links at the left.
People are on a holiday now so we just have to wait a bit.

A search on repositories does give it to me as a first link.

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread jim

Daniel Hatfield wrote:


Benjamin,

Thanks for the suggestion, but the only way I can get it to work is by
running iwconfig and dhcpcd.  They all is well.  Do you have to run
those steps every time you boot?  If so, I have a script I wrote for
configuring my wifi card (a work around to my current issues).  It
allows me to select the wireless network I'm on and then sets the rest
up for me.  If you would like it, I'll send it to you.

Thanks for trying to help,
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:52 AM

To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0


Login as root and try this:

# > ifdown ethX
# > killall dhcpcd
# > ifup ethX
# > dhcpcd

Substitute the 'X' with the number of your wireless card... e.g. "eth0" 
or "eth1"


It worked for me... but it's pretty annoying that there's no GUI with a 
button saying "renew WLAN DHCP".


/Benjamin

Daniel Hatfield wrote:

 


Hello all,

This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.

After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes it's a
   



 


clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I
   


know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I know
the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and
dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So, this
is what happens:
 

If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct 
setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that
   


the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my
settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the
command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.
 

I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if 
can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.


Thanks,
Daniel


   




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I use the ipw2100 on Fedora4 on a Dell Laptop inspiron8600 and my DSL 
modem requires a encryption code before It will connect to the router is

there a possibility that your in the same boat.
Also there are drivers for the ipw2100 and ipw2200 and each card 
requires it's own driver.

For the ipw2100 to run on Fedora I have three rpms
ipw2100-kmdl# which is the kernel module for the kernel your running
ipw2100 # which is the driver
ipw2100-firmware   #which is the firmware for the ipw2100

The ipw2200 use the packages only for the ipw2200.
I want to  put Suse10 on my laptop  but getting the ipw211 to work is 
why  I'm holding off.

I will be watching your post to see if you get it working.

Jim

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Re: [opensuse] Explaining the openSUSE Development Model

2005-10-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 09:48:12AM -0500, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Does the EDGE repository also include security updates? I have 10.0.42 
> installed, and so far that is the only installation source that YaST has 
> accepted.

Security bugs will be fixed ... in the next snapshot. (or when continuois
syncing is done, as soon as it is checked in.)

Several security updates like for the released products will not be done.

Ciao, Marcus

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Re: [opensuse] Re: www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Alexander Antoniades wrote:

> I do think that this is the problem with communication in many open 
> source projects is that we think that signing up for a users mailing 
> list will give us some insight and say in future releases, whereas it 
> seems to be more of a first level support situation. Some of what this 
> thread is talking about goes beyond offering patches and bug reports and 
> more into the general direction of the project. For example "please 
> don't make OpenSuse yet-another-gtk-centric distribution" isn't exactly 
> a bug report/patch situation. How does someone who's not a developer or 
> Novell employee get involved in the openness you discuss, and find out 
> what's being planned for upcoming releases?

There are many ways to get involved... I'd recommend you to read [1] 
first. Running the latests development version that's available on 
openSUSE.org would be another way to find out where the develment is 
happening. If you want to suggest new features or packages, the wishlists 
on the wiki would be the place to go...


Regards
Christoph

[1] http://www.opensuse.org/How_to_participate

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE vs Ubuntu vs Mandriva

2005-10-16 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:57, Allen wrote:

> What about me? I posted the same thing but sooner. If you bought 8.1 the
> calander it came with had this info in there.

So that's the one I missed :)
As a matter of fact, I skipped 8.1

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Re: [opensuse] Open Suse installation problem, help!

2005-10-16 Thread Matt Horsnell

Sorry I believe I listed the wrong type of chipset, mine is the SiS962



Matt Horsnell wrote:

Hi,

I am having a problem installing openSuse (suse 10 OSS) on one of my
machines, the other installations went fine (so I know the disks work 
and I

am not a complete novice at this).

The machine that suse won't install on, is an Asus Pundit AS with the
SiS651 chipset, a MAXTOR 80GB HDD, Celeron-D 2.8GHz ... I boot off the
installation CD, and when it gets to the part in installation called
"Analysing the Computer", it errors with the following message:

Error
No hard disks were found for the installation.
Please check your hardware!

I know my hard disk is there, and it is still mountable in knoppix, I 
have

tried formatting it, I have tried installing with ACPI off, and in safe
mode and with insmod=ide-generic, all to no avail. Does anyone know 
what is

going on here, is it the sis5513 module not recognising my chipset?

I also notice the following errors in other terminals

linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete

Error }
linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
linux kernel: hda: failed opcode was: 0xea
linux kernel: hda: wcache flush failed!

There doesn't appear to be a problem physically, because I have since
installed knoppix and can use the drive just fine, but I want to clean
install openSuse on this machine.

Please if anyone has any ideas I'd be very grateful


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[opensuse] Re: www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Alexander Antoniades
On 10/16/05, Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We had that kind of openness from day 0 - just go ahead, file a bugreport,
> attach a patch and discuss it with the developers. But be aware of the
> fact that we might not accept your patch - which has nothing to do with
> openness, but with the fact that the responsible developer / project
> manager will have the final say.

Christoph,

I do think that this is the problem with communication in many open
source projects is that we think that signing up for a users mailing
list will give us some insight and say in future releases, whereas it
seems to be more of a first level support situation.
Some of what this thread is talking about goes beyond offering patches
and bug reports and more into the general direction of the project.
For example "please don't make OpenSuse yet-another-gtk-centric
distribution" isn't exactly a bug report/patch situation.
How does someone who's not a developer or Novell employee get involved
in the openness you discuss, and find out what's being planned for
upcoming releases?

Sander

P.S. I'm glad to hear about the in improvements YaST you mentioned, as
that is the one weakness I've found in so far.

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RE: [opensuse] ? Howto setup wireless usb adaptor under 9.3

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
9.3 does come with ndiswrapper.

-Original Message-
From: Winston Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:02 AM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] ? Howto setup wireless usb adaptor under 9.3


Cheers 4 the reply .. Ill C what I can find in V10.

--- Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Winston,
> 
> Have you tried ndiswrapper? The ndiswrapper package
> may allow you to use
> the existing Windows driver under Linux. It looks
> like several Belkin 
> USB wireless adapters have been reported to work
> with that package. I am 
> not sure about 9.3 but I know it was included on my
> 10.0 CDs.
> 
> Regards,
> Andy
> 
> Winston Graeme wrote:
> > Okay Ill use this list to actually also for once
> ask
> > for help .. .
> > 
> > Im running SuSE 9.3 retail version.
> > I installed various wireless tools from the DVD.
> > 
> > I'm trying to get my wireless internet connection
> to
> > work.
> > It is router with internet connection & my
> computer is
> > connected to that (or not in current case xept
> under
> > Windows) via a Belkin USB wireless adaptor.
> > 
> > Can anyone help me ?
> > 
> > I had a quick look on LQ & looked through this
> list ..
> > but its either suspiciously complicated or its
> > bluetooth related.
> > 
> > SuSE 10 has improved wireless support I heard
> (still
> > havent actually ever used it .. although on the
> list
> > :D) .. any ideas ?
> > 
> > 
> > Any help is highly appreciated as I really want to
> > have internet under Linux to update the system &
> do
> > general surfing etc  :-) securely
> > 
> > The wireless howto on opensuse is blank BTW.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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[opensuse] Open Suse installation problem, help!

2005-10-16 Thread Matt Horsnell

Hi,

I am having a problem installing openSuse (suse 10 OSS) on one of my
machines, the other installations went fine (so I know the disks work and I
am not a complete novice at this).

The machine that suse won't install on, is an Asus Pundit AS with the
SiS651 chipset, a MAXTOR 80GB HDD, Celeron-D 2.8GHz ... I boot off the
installation CD, and when it gets to the part in installation called
"Analysing the Computer", it errors with the following message:

Error
No hard disks were found for the installation.
Please check your hardware!

I know my hard disk is there, and it is still mountable in knoppix, I have
tried formatting it, I have tried installing with ACPI off, and in safe
mode and with insmod=ide-generic, all to no avail. Does anyone know what is
going on here, is it the sis5513 module not recognising my chipset?

I also notice the following errors in other terminals

linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
Error }
linux kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
linux kernel: hda: failed opcode was: 0xea
linux kernel: hda: wcache flush failed!

There doesn't appear to be a problem physically, because I have since
installed knoppix and can use the drive just fine, but I want to clean
install openSuse on this machine.

Please if anyone has any ideas I'd be very grateful


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RE: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease address using YAST

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
I'm not sure I understand your question.  Are you talking about
assigning a specific lease length using the DHCP server  for clients you
provide addresses for.  Or are you trying to get your client to use a
certain leases of a certain length?

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Nathaniel Bolivar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:32 AM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: [opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease address using YAST


is it possible to configure DHCP fixed-lease addresses
using yast in suse linux 10. i'm sure that it is
possible in sles9.




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RE: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
Benjamin,

Thanks for the suggestion, but the only way I can get it to work is by
running iwconfig and dhcpcd.  They all is well.  Do you have to run
those steps every time you boot?  If so, I have a script I wrote for
configuring my wifi card (a work around to my current issues).  It
allows me to select the wireless network I'm on and then sets the rest
up for me.  If you would like it, I'll send it to you.

Thanks for trying to help,
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:52 AM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0


Login as root and try this:

# > ifdown ethX
# > killall dhcpcd
# > ifup ethX
# > dhcpcd

Substitute the 'X' with the number of your wireless card... e.g. "eth0" 
or "eth1"

It worked for me... but it's pretty annoying that there's no GUI with a 
button saying "renew WLAN DHCP".

/Benjamin

Daniel Hatfield wrote:

>Hello all,
> 
>This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.
> 
>After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes it's a

>clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I
know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I know
the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and
dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So, this
is what happens:
> 
>If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct 
>setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that
the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my
settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the
command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.
> 
>I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if 
>can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.
> 
>Thanks,
>Daniel
>  
>


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RE: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Daniel Hatfield
Reinhard,

Give up?  Ha! Not hardly.  I posted this question to 3 forums and this
mailing list; I'm determined.

My wireless card is an Intel pro wireless 2200BG (ipw2200 module).

Restarting the network service doesn't fix it.  It behaves exactly like
it does at boot.

Per you suggestion, I changed my LAN port to activate on cable connect.
Still the same results.

Thanks!

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: Reinhard Gimbel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:09 AM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0



Hello Daniel ! used

Daniel Hatfield schrieb:

> This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.
>  
> After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes it's 
> a clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I
know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I know
the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and
dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So, this
is what happens:
>  
> If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct 
> setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that
the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my
settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the
command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.
>  
> I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if 
> can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.

It would be interesting to know the WLAN hardware used ...

What happens when you issue "/etc/init.d/network restart" (as user root)
?

Have you set up an additional LAN port ? If yes, did you enable "on 
cable connect" for "device activation" in the section 
[advanced]-[detailed settings] of the LAN port configuration ?

I had similar problems as I started with SuSE 9.3 on my notebook. Using 
"on cable connect" for the LAN port helped to get the WLAN port running 
more stable.

Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.

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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread Carl Hartung
On Sunday 16 October 2005 12:16, Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
> O.k., that's true !

Thank you!

> One also can try to get a more common video timing by calling YaST from a
> text conole device, navigate to the graphics card settings and select a
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] screen.

Why add a layer of abstraction? Doesn't this just run SaX2 in the background?

> Using the "sax2 -l" or "sax2 -il" should work every time but is crude
> somehow.

Please elaborate on this. In my view, directly calling the essential utility 
from the CLI is more elegant. No worries that the GUI is masking important 
output or symptoms/clues.

> In this case I would prefer to use "sax2 -V 0:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as 
> posted by houghi.

Oh... *him* again! OK, I see how it is. Hmmph! ;-)

> Never give up !

Here, that's "Never, ever give up!"

Take care!

- Carl

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Re: [opensuse] ? Howto setup wireless usb adaptor under 9.3

2005-10-16 Thread Winston Graeme
Cheers 4 the reply .. Ill C what I can find in V10.

--- Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Winston,
> 
> Have you tried ndiswrapper? The ndiswrapper package
> may allow you to use 
> the existing Windows driver under Linux. It looks
> like several Belkin 
> USB wireless adapters have been reported to work
> with that package. I am 
> not sure about 9.3 but I know it was included on my
> 10.0 CDs.
> 
> Regards,
> Andy
> 
> Winston Graeme wrote:
> > Okay Ill use this list to actually also for once
> ask
> > for help .. .
> > 
> > Im running SuSE 9.3 retail version.
> > I installed various wireless tools from the DVD.
> > 
> > I'm trying to get my wireless internet connection
> to
> > work.
> > It is router with internet connection & my
> computer is
> > connected to that (or not in current case xept
> under
> > Windows) via a Belkin USB wireless adaptor.
> > 
> > Can anyone help me ?
> > 
> > I had a quick look on LQ & looked through this
> list ..
> > but its either suspiciously complicated or its
> > bluetooth related.
> > 
> > SuSE 10 has improved wireless support I heard
> (still
> > havent actually ever used it .. although on the
> list
> > :D) .. any ideas ?
> > 
> > 
> > Any help is highly appreciated as I really want to
> > have internet under Linux to update the system &
> do
> > general surfing etc  :-) securely
> > 
> > The wireless howto on opensuse is blank BTW.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[opensuse] development speed on list

2005-10-16 Thread Winston Graeme
Maybe its just me .. & I might just be blind ...

But this list now looks a lot more like :

"I now have V10 & have this prob .. pleaese help" ... 

Than actual things about V10.1 .

I havent read anyone mentioning the new developemnt
realease really .

What is everyones opinion on my moaning ?

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[opensuse] "upgraded" to V10 finally

2005-10-16 Thread Winston Graeme
I have finally managed to get my hands on V10 .. the
evaluation DVD.

Lots of great software as allways.

But must say I was disappointed.

Someone on the list said that they had severe problems
getting the system to run for the first time since V8
.. .

Well kinda similiar experience a bit.

Been uising SuSE since 8.1 .

I bought retail V 8.1,8.2,9.0 & 9.3 .

All them installed & booted usually fine.
Some have been more unstable than others ((8.1 &
9.1(the first 2.6 version .. right?)come to my mind) .

8.2 & 9.3 have prob in my opinion been the best of the
ones I know.


My lovely Wacom tablet wasnt recognized for the v10
install (no prob in 9.3 or 9.2) .

When the system booted for the first time  ... it very
much stopped after finishing the boot-runlevel &
changing into runlevel 5.

I had the tablet (USB) & USB wireless adaptor plugged
in.
It took it something like several hours to get from
end of boot-level to "starting HAL"  after that I
lost my nerves ... & reset ... take out the USB bits
.. & it booted fine (there now are all these
configuration things being shown on 1st boot .. might
have been there akready in 9.3 ... reminded me of
installing Ubuntu :-) .

Once I got my tablet running it behaved very similiar
to new Vector versions ... I guess there have been
kernel changes recently .. movement of the pen above
the tablet is not noticed .. only when the pen
actually touches the tablet surface ... & additionally
to that the mouse jumps not relativly the same
distance as the pen does when I put it at a different
corner of the tablet (its okay if I lost ye in my
crappy description 8-) ) . So its quite unusable &
highly irritating.


Yet have to explore the rest.

Xept for the above things there seem to have been nice
improvments everywhere :-)

This realease seems a bit rushed I have the feeling as
Ive never had problems with the first boot until V10.


Sorry 4 all this moaning but just sharing my
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Re: [opensuse] SUSE vs Ubuntu vs Mandriva

2005-10-16 Thread Allen
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:48:48PM +0100, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Friday, 14 October 2005 13:45, Andreas Simon wrote:
> > This is unfair. If you say Mandriva is based on Red Hat than you should say
> > SUSE is based on Slackware (you know it started as a German version of
> > Slackware) or later on Jurix (starting with S.u.S.E. Linux 4.2). Today both
> > Mandriva and SUSE are great distros on their own, no longer based on some
> > other distro with some added value.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andreas
> 
> Thanks for correcting me: it's perfectly true that Mandrake separated from 
> the 
> Red Hat base a long time ago. As for the Slackware roots of SuSE I never knew 
> that, when I discovered it (after attempting an odl Slackware) I didn't 
> notice it.

What about me? I posted the same thing but sooner. If you bought 8.1 the
calander it came with had this info in there.

 
> Note that I would say I was "wrong" rather than "unfair" - I don't see 
> anything discreditable to develop a distribution based on another (as long as 
> it is permitted). There are many Debian-based distributions that fullfill 
> different needs than the original (but that would not exist but for the 
> original Debian) and I hope that the existence of OSS will be the seed for 
> "SuSE-based" distribution. Just one example: I was today installing a 
> "disaster-system" on a 1GB partition on my laptop: SuSE 10 would not do (even 
> after deselecting lots of things they would come back to "satisfy 
> dependancies" so I had to digg up an old 8.0 which still has a "minimum 
> installation" available. So if anyone created a "SuSE-based distro thet will 
> fit on half a gigabyte" I would welcome it.
> 
> Thierry
> 
> -- 
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> capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
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[opensuse] Bugzilla problems (was: Re: [opensuse] VFS oopses)

2005-10-16 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> Ever since I started trying to submit a bug report yesterday, I get 
> nothing but this once I log in:
> 
> -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- 
> Software error:
> 
> Undefined subroutine &main::ValidateNewUser called at 
> Bugzilla/Auth/Verify/iChain.pm line 204.
> 
> For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), 
> giving this error message and the time and date of the error. 
> -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-

Novell IS&T has informed me on the ongoing bugzilla problems. They are 
working on fixing this problem, but might not be able to fix them until 
Monday. To validate your newly created accounts, until Bugzilla is fixed, 
please use

  https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/protected/validateEmail.jsp

as a workaround.


Regards
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Re: [opensuse] www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Aschwin Marsman wrote:

> > Please, don't try to act naive! YaST isn't bound to KDE or GNOME - why 
> > should we reinvent the wheel?
>
> Because YaST is currently based on Qt, it wouldn't feel native in GNOME.

YaST has a QT and an Ncurses frontend. It's just a matter of writing a GTK 
frontend - but apparent nobody has done this so far. There are other fish 
to fry...


> > > As a usability example: I would like to have the ability to make 
> > > some improvements (in my opinion) to e.g. you: When downloading the 
> > > patches and everything went will I don't want to press the Finish 
> > > button myself, I would like a checkbox that gives me the option to 
> > > specify the behaviour I described above. When will development be 
> > > open for these kind of issues, and who will decide if a proposed 
> > > patch will be included or not?
> > 
> > The development is already open - just use Bugzilla to interact with 
> > the YaST developers on this. But please note, that there will be quite 
> > some redevelopment on the YaST2 Packagemanager + YOU for 10.1...
> 
> That depends on your definition of open: using Bugzilla to report a bug 
> or issue a feature request is usefull, but open development to me would 
> be that I can take the source, make a patch which does what I would like 
> and sent that to a mailing list for discussion/review. Do we have that 
> kind of openess already? Is it supposed to be like that in the (near) 
> future?

We had that kind of openness from day 0 - just go ahead, file a bugreport, 
attach a patch and discuss it with the developers. But be aware of the 
fact that we might not accept your patch - which has nothing todo with 
openness, but with the fact that the responsible developer / project 
manager will have the final say.


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Re: [opensuse] Does Suse have Kickstart

2005-10-16 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, jim wrote:

> Redhat Kickstart is a good thing to have when you install a number of
> desktops, does Suse have a app simaliar

AutoYaST. 


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[opensuse] Does Suse have Kickstart

2005-10-16 Thread jim
Redhat Kickstart is a good thing to have when you install a number of 
desktops, does Suse have a app simaliar


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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread Reinhard Gimbel

Carl Hartung schrieb:

If you boot to run level 3, log in as root and run "sax2 -l" (lower case "L"), 
SaX2 will run in standard VESA compliant low resolution (VGA) mode, which is 
supported natively in hardware, (no special external drivers needed) in every 
PC graphics subsystem marketed in at least the past ten years.


If you're getting a text console and can log into run level 3, *and* if your 
hardware is not broken in some way or misidentified during installation, 
"sax2 -l" will work. If it *doesn't* work, that is a clear sign that there is 
something fundamentally wrong at the hardware level... either:


- the hardware is not supported
- the hardware is not recognized properly (meaning the installer is getting 
confused and misidentifying it, thereby creating inappropriate config files)

- there is actually something wrong with the hardware:
- wrong BIOS settings
- a mix of unsupported+supported parts producing confused probe results
- damaged or improperly installed components

IMHO, it isn't fair or reasonable to dump on SaX2 until you've ruled out these 
possibilities.


O.k., that's true !

One also can try to get a more common video timing by calling YaST from a text conole device, navigate to the graphics card 
settings and select a [EMAIL PROTECTED] screen.


Using the "sax2 -l" or "sax2 -il" should work every time but is crude somehow. In this case I would prefer to use "sax2 -V 
0:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as posted by houghi.


Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.

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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread jim

Alexander Grujic wrote:


Am Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2005 15:02 schrieb jim:
 


jim wrote:
   


Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
 


Hi all !

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
   


* jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-15-05 17:40]:
 


My 17" monitor keeps coming up with Out of Range warning.
Suse detected the Komondo monitor during installation.
Whereis XFree86.conf located I need to change the Hoz and Vert
settings.
   


/etc/X11/XF86Config
 


Since SuSE changed to Xorg the file is called

/etc/X11/xorg.conf (/etc/X11/XF86Config now is a symlink to xorg.conf)

I guess it is a better idea to use a tool like "sax2" to do that task
...

Therefore I recommend to change to runlevel 3 (by command "init 3" as
user root) and then calling "sax2" (as well as user root).

On the first page displayed by "sax2" you will find an entry for the
resolution. Probably it is set to 1280x1024. For 17" monitors a
resolution of 1152x864 or 1024x768 might be the better choice. If
your monitor supplier is not within the list of possible selections I
suggest to use the "-->> VESA" section.

Probably you should start with 1024x768 and then trying 1152x768.

Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.


   



 


Thanks very much for your help.
I'am typically a Fedora user and I want to give Suse a checkout , I
think Novell is going to put a Lot of effort into making Suse the
Desktop for Linux, as a hardcore Linux user I prefer Fedora4 because
it gives me more of the bash commands to use than does Suse, Yes
I know I could install those commands in Suse. But Fedora and Suse
gives me the best of both words , commandline and desktop.
That is if I can get X to work on this boxwith Suse like Fedora does.
I had no problems in Suse9.3.
I do agree with you on the settings of 1024x768.
Suse Install setup is very easy for anyone to use.

thanks again

Jim

 



 


00 I




Have you tried running sax2 -il ? This helped one of the times that sax did 
not work for me ...


Ciao,
Alex
 


Thanks Alex,and thanks everybody sax2 -il did it.
I can see it now, Suse for all my friends and family Desktops, Lookout  
$Microsoft,
and for me , hardcore Linux user , Fedora on my main box and possibly 
Suse for my Laptop. has Suse got the problem solved for the Intel 
ipw2100 wireless
card and Nvidia vedio drivers, that is, what is unique to my Dell 
Inspiron8600 Laptop.


Thanks everyone
Jim

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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread Carl Hartung
On Sunday 16 October 2005 10:14, Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
> Oops, with an non-working configuration it is of course not possible to
> get a useful output with "sax2".

Hi Reinhard,

If you boot to run level 3, log in as root and run "sax2 -l" (lower case "L"), 
SaX2 will run in standard VESA compliant low resolution (VGA) mode, which is 
supported natively in hardware, (no special external drivers needed) in every 
PC graphics subsystem marketed in at least the past ten years.

If you're getting a text console and can log into run level 3, *and* if your 
hardware is not broken in some way or misidentified during installation, 
"sax2 -l" will work. If it *doesn't* work, that is a clear sign that there is 
something fundamentally wrong at the hardware level... either:

- the hardware is not supported
- the hardware is not recognized properly (meaning the installer is getting 
confused and misidentifying it, thereby creating inappropriate config files)
- there is actually something wrong with the hardware:
- wrong BIOS settings
- a mix of unsupported+supported parts producing confused probe results
- damaged or improperly installed components

IMHO, it isn't fair or reasonable to dump on SaX2 until you've ruled out these 
possibilities.

regards,

- Carl

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Re: [opensuse] www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Aschwin Marsman
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Aschwin Marsman wrote:

Christoph,

Thanks for your quick reply.

> > That's not my point, I know they did test on both KDE and GNOME, but I 
> > can't see ximian as an unbiased entity when you are doing those tests. 
> 
> Please note, that the test persons were volunteers (not Novell/Ximian 
> employees)!
 
I know, but somebody has to do the analysis.
 
> > Have they developed improvements for KDE since Novell took them over?
> 
> That's not their job - they are supposed to work on GNOME.

And MONO.

> > But what about specific installation tooling and new applications: I 
> > don't hope Novell is creating a Yast specific for GNOME, one for KDE and 
> > one written in MONO?
> 
> Please, don't try to act naive! YaST isn't bound to KDE or GNOME - why 
> should we reinvent the wheel?
 
Because YaST is currently based on Qt, it wouldn't feel native in GNOME.
 
> > As a usability example: I would like to have the ability to make some 
> > improvements (in my opinion) to e.g. you: When downloading the patches 
> > and everything went will I don't want to press the Finish button myself, 
> > I would like a checkbox that gives me the option to specify the 
> > behaviour I described above. When will development be open for these 
> > kind of issues, and who will decide if a proposed patch will be included 
> > or not?
> 
> The development is already open - just use Bugzilla to interact with the 
> YaST developers on this. But please note, that there will be quite some 
> redevelopment on the YaST2 Packagemanager + YOU for 10.1...

That depends on your definition of open: using Bugzilla to report a bug
or issue a feature request is usefull, but open development to me would
be that I can take the source, make a patch which does what I would like
and sent that to a mailing list for discussion/review. Do we have that
kind of openess already? Is it supposed to be like that in the (near)
future?

> Regards
>   Christoph
 
Have a nice weekend,
 
Aschwin Marsman
 
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[opensuse] Configuring DHCP fixed-lease address using YAST

2005-10-16 Thread Nathaniel Bolivar
is it possible to configure DHCP fixed-lease addresses
using yast in suse linux 10. i'm sure that it is
possible in sles9.




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Re: [opensuse] Sound and Opensuse 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Hans-Peter Holler
> alsasound is not working here, too. Turion64 notebook with ATI chips.
> I added "modprobe snd_atiixp" into /etc/init.d/alsasound like this:
>
> ...
> # See how we were called.
> case "$1" in
>start)
>  modprobe snd_atiixp
>  if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then
>  start_rest
>  fi
>  ;;
> ...
>
> and that made it work.
Same for me. I use this more general hack:
case "$1" in
#  start)
#   if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then
#   start_rest
#   fi
#;;
...
  start|reload|restart)
$0 unload
echo -n "Starting sound driver"
load_modules && start_rest
# hack - in case the mixer isn't restored
(sleep 1; $alsactl -f $asoundcfg restore)
rc_status
;;

Hans-Peter

BTW: Same behaviour in opensuse 10.1 Alpha1 (alsa-1.0.9-25)

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Re: [opensuse] (Non-free) multimedia support in boxed Suse 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 08:01:34AM +0100, michael norman took 17 lines to write:
> 
> > Please get informed about what patents, proprietary formats and the likes
> > are before bashing. WMV is a proprietary, non-disclosed format from
> > Microsoft, which means that noone can make a codec for it except Microsoft
> > themselves.
> >
> > The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all"
> > package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work
> > on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer
> > and Xine).
> >
> Is there any way these codecs can be made to work on 64 bit SUSE 10 ?

http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=22021&hl=

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE OSS 10, install stops between CDs

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Smith
I have also seen problems similar to this. With my system I could start 
the install on either drive, but had to complete it with the cdrom drive 
and not the burner in all cases. I moved the jumpers on the drives and 
tried again with the reult being it would look for the CD in the burner. 
The only conclusion I can come up with is that it is looking for the CD 
in the IDE master and not the slave. Is it possible that the installer 
epxects to find the CD mounted on the master and not the slave?


Regards,
Andy

Michael Nelson wrote:


I have a DVD drive and a CD burner drive.  I started the install on the DVD
because the read speed is a little faster. It booted from it fine and
installed from #1.  Finished #1 and asked for #2... put #2 in and it
finished from #2 and asked for #3.  Put #3 in, and it started giving
abort/retry/ignore errors on every file.

I aborted and started over.

Second time through, same ... until I noticed that when it asked for #3 and
I clicked on the EJECT button on the dialog box (first time through I had
ejected using the button on the DVD drive instead of the mouse button), it
slid the carrier for the *CD burner drive* out instead of the DVD drive that
I had started the install with.

I put #3 in the CD burner drive and continued, and it finished the install
of #3, #4, and #5 all using the CD burner.

Somehow the install got confused and switched drives in the middle of the
install.  I've never seen *that* happen before!

Michael





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Re: [opensuse] Explaining the openSUSE Development Model

2005-10-16 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Andy Smith wrote:

> Does the EDGE repository also include security updates? I have 10.0.42 
> installed, and so far that is the only installation source that YaST has 
> accepted.

As soon as the stream is constantly synced out, it will contain security 
fixes in terms of package updates to new versions. I.e. if you want the 
latests sec. fixes, you'll always have to update to the latests version 
that's in EDGE.


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Re: [opensuse] Explaining the openSUSE Development Model

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Smith

Hello,

Does the EDGE repository also include security updates? I have 10.0.42 
installed, and so far that is the only installation source that YaST has 
accepted.


Thanks,
Andy

Henne Vogelsang wrote:



- "unfrozen" EDGE that recives:
  * fixes
  * new packages
  * new features
  * new versions of packages

- A released product (like 10.0) that recives:
  * Security fixes
  * fixes for serious bugs

So the direct impact of your fixes, package wishes or the results of
your bugreports you _always_ find in EDGE. 

Henne 


[1] EDGE installation repository:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-edge/inst-source/





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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread Alexander Grujic
Am Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2005 15:02 schrieb jim:
> jim wrote:
> > Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
> >> Hi all !
> >>
> >> Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
> >>> * jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-15-05 17:40]:
>  My 17" monitor keeps coming up with Out of Range warning.
>  Suse detected the Komondo monitor during installation.
>  Whereis XFree86.conf located I need to change the Hoz and Vert
>  settings.
> >>>
> >>> /etc/X11/XF86Config
> >>
> >> Since SuSE changed to Xorg the file is called
> >>
> >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf (/etc/X11/XF86Config now is a symlink to xorg.conf)
> >>
> >> I guess it is a better idea to use a tool like "sax2" to do that task
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Therefore I recommend to change to runlevel 3 (by command "init 3" as
> >> user root) and then calling "sax2" (as well as user root).
> >>
> >> On the first page displayed by "sax2" you will find an entry for the
> >> resolution. Probably it is set to 1280x1024. For 17" monitors a
> >> resolution of 1152x864 or 1024x768 might be the better choice. If
> >> your monitor supplier is not within the list of possible selections I
> >> suggest to use the "-->> VESA" section.
> >>
> >> Probably you should start with 1024x768 and then trying 1152x768.
> >>
> >> Never give up !
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Reinhard.
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Thanks very much for your help.
> > I'am typically a Fedora user and I want to give Suse a checkout , I
> > think Novell is going to put a Lot of effort into making Suse the
> > Desktop for Linux, as a hardcore Linux user I prefer Fedora4 because
> > it gives me more of the bash commands to use than does Suse, Yes
> > I know I could install those commands in Suse. But Fedora and Suse
> > gives me the best of both words , commandline and desktop.
> > That is if I can get X to work on this boxwith Suse like Fedora does.
> > I had no problems in Suse9.3.
> > I do agree with you on the settings of 1024x768.
> > Suse Install setup is very easy for anyone to use.
> >
> > thanks again
> >
> > Jim
> >

>
> I tryed running sax2 in runlevel3 (suse, failsafe) and sax2 starts, the
> screen goes dark and monitor goes into offline mode, no running of sax2.
> Not a very dependable application this sax2.
>
> Jim


Have you tried running sax2 -il ? This helped one of the times that sax did 
not work for me ...

Ciao,
Alex


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Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE OSS 10, install stops between CDs

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Smith
I have had a similar problem. Sometimes simply removing and replacing 
the CD worked for me, but in the end I had to restart the install 
several times before it finally got through all 5 CDs. On one of my 
machines the install error led me to replace the cdrom drive, which was 
indeed bad.


Regards,
Andy

Mello wrote:

Hi list,
I'm not new to Linux nor to the Suse flavour. Installed it many times
without a single real issue but this time...

When CD 1 is done and the usual window pops up requesting the successive CD
to be inserted I put CD 2 in, hit [OK] and the following error happens:
Media: mount failed.

Now:
- md5sums are OK,
- I've changed my CDs several times (they are rw, either Mmore or Maxell),
- CDs can be read in other computers,
- I've changed the CD drive (which always works fine with first CD).

I'm starting to think the problem may be related to the installation program
not unmounting CD x/mounting CD x+1.

Any clues? Anything I should have tried before contacting the list? 

Thanks,
-c





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Re: [opensuse] (Non-free) multimedia support in boxed Suse 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 16 October 2005 03:01 am, michael norman wrote:
> > Please get informed about what patents, proprietary formats and the
> > likes are before bashing. WMV is a proprietary, non-disclosed
> > format from Microsoft, which means that noone can make a codec for
> > it except Microsoft themselves.
> >
> > The only way to read those on Linux is to install the
> > "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows
> > codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery
> > but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
>
> Is there any way these codecs can be made to work on 64 bit SUSE 10 ?
>
> -

Sure there is, but it requires using the 32-bit version of the players 
to get them to work presently.  Until there are converted 64-bit codecs 
available, there is not many alternatives.

Lee

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Re: [opensuse] suse repositories

2005-10-16 Thread meister
Am Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2005 01:12 schrieb Alexander Grujic:
> Am Samstag, 15. Oktober 2005 23:44 schrieb Israel Fernández Cabrera:
> > I´d like to know some spicy SUSE repositories with all the stuff
> > missing, multimedia packages, codecs, mplayer, mp3 support, may be
> > cool programming stuff and so on...
>  give http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories a
> look

Hi,

I just tried to find these infos (additional repositories) using the 
"front door" www.opensuse.org. And I was not able to get this info. 
Only searching the mailing list offers this URL. Maybe it is a good 
idea to place a link to this page on the Download page of opensuse.org.

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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread Reinhard Gimbel


Hi all !

houghi schrieb:


On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 08:02:35AM -0500, jim wrote:
I tryed running sax2 in runlevel3 (suse, failsafe) and sax2 starts, the 
screen goes dark and monitor goes into offline mode, no running of sax2.

Not a very dependable application this sax2.


Type `sax2 --help` to see some possible things to start with. e.g. `sax2
-l` or `sax2 -V 0:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Oops, with an non-working configuration it is of course not possible to 
get a useful output with "sax2".


Thanks, houghi !

Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.

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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread houghi
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 08:02:35AM -0500, jim wrote:
> I tryed running sax2 in runlevel3 (suse, failsafe) and sax2 starts, the 
> screen goes dark and monitor goes into offline mode, no running of sax2.
> Not a very dependable application this sax2.

Type `sax2 --help` to see some possible things to start with. e.g. `sax2
-l` or `sax2 -V 0:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [opensuse] www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Aschwin Marsman wrote:

> > tested. Quoting betterdesktop.openSUSE.org: "Over the past year, we 
> > have conducted many usability tests on different parts of the KDE and 
> > GNOME desktops."
> 
> That's not my point, I know they did test on both KDE and GNOME, but I 
> can't see ximian as an unbiased entity when you are doing those tests. 

Please note, that the test persons were volunteers (not Novell/Ximian 
employees)!


> Have they developed improvements for KDE since Novell took them over?

That's not their job - they are supposed to work on GNOME.


> > >   Is Novell's desktop future on GNOME?
> > 
> > No. Neither GNOME nor KDE are the privileged Novell desktop 
> > environment - they both have the same status.
> 
> But what about specific installation tooling and new applications: I 
> don't hope Novell is creating a Yast specific for GNOME, one for KDE and 
> one written in MONO?

Please, don't try to act naive! YaST isn't bound to KDE or GNOME - why 
should we reinvent the wheel?


> It could be done off course by using something like an observer like 
> pattern: create the functionality (backend) once and have different 
> views on it using a GNOME/KDE/... frontend. What are the ideas on this 
> for the OpenSUSE project?
>
> As a usability example: I would like to have the ability to make some 
> improvements (in my opinion) to e.g. you: When downloading the patches 
> and everything went will I don't want to press the Finish button myself, 
> I would like a checkbox that gives me the option to specify the 
> behaviour I described above. When will development be open for these 
> kind of issues, and who will decide if a proposed patch will be included 
> or not?

The development is already open - just use Bugzilla to interact with the 
YaST developers on this. But please note, that there will be quite some 
redevelopment on the YaST2 Packagemanager + YOU for 10.1...


Regards
Christoph

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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread jim

jim wrote:


Reinhard Gimbel wrote:



Hi all !

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:


* jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-15-05 17:40]:


My 17" monitor keeps coming up with Out of Range warning.
Suse detected the Komondo monitor during installation.
Whereis XFree86.conf located I need to change the Hoz and Vert
settings.




/etc/X11/XF86Config




Since SuSE changed to Xorg the file is called

/etc/X11/xorg.conf (/etc/X11/XF86Config now is a symlink to xorg.conf)

I guess it is a better idea to use a tool like "sax2" to do that task 
...


Therefore I recommend to change to runlevel 3 (by command "init 3" as 
user root) and then calling "sax2" (as well as user root).


On the first page displayed by "sax2" you will find an entry for the 
resolution. Probably it is set to 1280x1024. For 17" monitors a 
resolution of 1152x864 or 1024x768 might be the better choice. If 
your monitor supplier is not within the list of possible selections I 
suggest to use the "-->> VESA" section.


Probably you should start with 1024x768 and then trying 1152x768.

Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.


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Thanks very much for your help.
I'am typically a Fedora user and I want to give Suse a checkout , I 
think Novell is going to put a Lot of effort into making Suse the
Desktop for Linux, as a hardcore Linux user I prefer Fedora4 because 
it gives me more of the bash commands to use than does Suse, Yes
I know I could install those commands in Suse. But Fedora and Suse 
gives me the best of both words , commandline and desktop.
That is if I can get X to work on this boxwith Suse like Fedora does. 
I had no problems in Suse9.3.

I do agree with you on the settings of 1024x768.
Suse Install setup is very easy for anyone to use.

thanks again

Jim

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I tryed running sax2 in runlevel3 (suse, failsafe) and sax2 starts, the 
screen goes dark and monitor goes into offline mode, no running of sax2.

Not a very dependable application this sax2.

Jim

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Benjamin Bach

Login as root and try this:

# > ifdown ethX
# > killall dhcpcd
# > ifup ethX
# > dhcpcd

Substitute the 'X' with the number of your wireless card... e.g. "eth0" 
or "eth1"


It worked for me... but it's pretty annoying that there's no GUI with a 
button saying "renew WLAN DHCP".


/Benjamin

Daniel Hatfield wrote:


Hello all,

This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.

After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes it's a clean 
install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I know my settings 
are correct (I've rentered them several times). I know the module is correct, 
because all that I need to do is iwconfig and dhcpcd to get it working (I have 
to do it every time I boot). So, this is what happens:

If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct setting 
(essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that the security 
mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my settings from the CL 
and it connects right up. Connecting from the command line isn't the end of the 
world, but it is a digression.

I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if can't get 
this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.

Thanks,
Daniel
 




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Re: [opensuse] ? Howto setup wireless usb adaptor under 9.3

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Smith

Hello Winston,

Have you tried ndiswrapper? The ndiswrapper package may allow you to use 
the existing Windows driver under Linux. It looks like several Belkin 
USB wireless adapters have been reported to work with that package. I am 
not sure about 9.3 but I know it was included on my 10.0 CDs.


Regards,
Andy

Winston Graeme wrote:

Okay Ill use this list to actually also for once ask
for help .. .

Im running SuSE 9.3 retail version.
I installed various wireless tools from the DVD.

I'm trying to get my wireless internet connection to
work.
It is router with internet connection & my computer is
connected to that (or not in current case xept under
Windows) via a Belkin USB wireless adaptor.

Can anyone help me ?

I had a quick look on LQ & looked through this list ..
but its either suspiciously complicated or its
bluetooth related.

SuSE 10 has improved wireless support I heard (still
havent actually ever used it .. although on the list
:D) .. any ideas ?


Any help is highly appreciated as I really want to
have internet under Linux to update the system & do
general surfing etc  :-) securely

The wireless howto on opensuse is blank BTW.






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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread jim

Reinhard Gimbel wrote:



Hi all !

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:


* jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-15-05 17:40]:


My 17" monitor keeps coming up with Out of Range warning.
Suse detected the Komondo monitor during installation.
Whereis XFree86.conf located I need to change the Hoz and Vert
settings.



/etc/X11/XF86Config



Since SuSE changed to Xorg the file is called

/etc/X11/xorg.conf (/etc/X11/XF86Config now is a symlink to xorg.conf)

I guess it is a better idea to use a tool like "sax2" to do that task ...

Therefore I recommend to change to runlevel 3 (by command "init 3" as 
user root) and then calling "sax2" (as well as user root).


On the first page displayed by "sax2" you will find an entry for the 
resolution. Probably it is set to 1280x1024. For 17" monitors a 
resolution of 1152x864 or 1024x768 might be the better choice. If your 
monitor supplier is not within the list of possible selections I 
suggest to use the "-->> VESA" section.


Probably you should start with 1024x768 and then trying 1152x768.

Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.


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Thanks very much for your help.
I'am typically a Fedora user and I want to give Suse a checkout , I 
think Novell is going to put a Lot of effort into making Suse the
Desktop for Linux, as a hardcore Linux user I prefer Fedora4 because it 
gives me more of the bash commands to use than does Suse, Yes
I know I could install those commands in Suse. But Fedora and Suse gives 
me the best of both words , commandline and desktop.
That is if I can get X to work on this boxwith Suse like Fedora does. I 
had no problems in Suse9.3.

I do agree with you on the settings of 1024x768.
Suse Install setup is very easy for anyone to use.

thanks again

Jim

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Problem in 10.0

2005-10-16 Thread Reinhard Gimbel


Hello Daniel ! used

Daniel Hatfield schrieb:


This isn't a show stopper, but it is very frustrating.
 
After setting Suse 10 up on my laptop (I used to run 9.3 and yes it's a clean install), wireless configuration through Yast doesn't work. I know my settings are correct (I've rentered them several times). I know the module is correct, because all that I need to do is iwconfig and dhcpcd to get it working (I have to do it every time I boot). So, this is what happens:
 
If I run iwconfig after configuring yast it shows all the correct setting (essid, wep key, mode), but is says it's unassociated and that the security mode is restricted!? If i just run iwconfig with all of my settings from the CL and it connects right up. Connecting from the command line isn't the end of the world, but it is a digression.
 
I would soo love to get this working. Overall I love Suse 10, but if can't get this fixed I may be rolling back to 9.3.


It would be interesting to know the WLAN hardware used ...

What happens when you issue "/etc/init.d/network restart" (as user root) ?

Have you set up an additional LAN port ? If yes, did you enable "on 
cable connect" for "device activation" in the section 
[advanced]-[detailed settings] of the LAN port configuration ?


I had similar problems as I started with SuSE 9.3 on my notebook. Using 
"on cable connect" for the LAN port helped to get the WLAN port running 
more stable.


Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.

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Re: [opensuse] Startx doesn't start

2005-10-16 Thread Reinhard Gimbel


Hi all !

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:


* jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-15-05 17:40]:

My 17" monitor keeps coming up with Out of Range warning.
Suse detected the Komondo monitor during installation.
Whereis XFree86.conf located I need to change the Hoz and Vert
settings.


/etc/X11/XF86Config


Since SuSE changed to Xorg the file is called

/etc/X11/xorg.conf (/etc/X11/XF86Config now is a symlink to xorg.conf)

I guess it is a better idea to use a tool like "sax2" to do that task ...

Therefore I recommend to change to runlevel 3 (by command "init 3" as 
user root) and then calling "sax2" (as well as user root).


On the first page displayed by "sax2" you will find an entry for the 
resolution. Probably it is set to 1280x1024. For 17" monitors a 
resolution of 1152x864 or 1024x768 might be the better choice. If your 
monitor supplier is not within the list of possible selections I suggest 
to use the "-->> VESA" section.


Probably you should start with 1024x768 and then trying 1152x768.

Never give up !

Best regards,
Reinhard.


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Re: [opensuse] www.betterdesktop.org

2005-10-16 Thread Aschwin Marsman
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Aschwin Marsman wrote:

Dear Christoph,

Thanks for your quick reply.

> > Looks like a promising project to me, but I have two remarks:
> > - I can't view the videos, time outs occur.
> 
> The server that delivers the videos seems to be down. I'v escalated this 
> to Novell IS&T.
 
The server wasn't available yesterday evening when I tried again, but it
is available now. It would have been wise to make sure the website and
it's contents are available if Novell is putting a press release on the
web though.
 
> > - The video's are taken from the Ximian website, which I would not 
> >   describe as desktop neutral if you want to perform usability tests on 
> >   different parts of the KDE and GNOME desktops.
> 
> If you look at the videos, you'll find that both KDE and GNOME were 

I couldn't look at the videos yesterday, but I'm currently watching one.

> tested. Quoting betterdesktop.openSUSE.org: "Over the past year, we have 
> conducted many usability tests on different parts of the KDE and GNOME 
> desktops."

That's not my point, I know they did test on both KDE and GNOME, but I
can't see ximian as an unbiased entity when you are doing those tests.
Have they developed improvements for KDE since Novell took them over?

> >   Is Novell's desktop future on GNOME?
> 
> No. Neither GNOME nor KDE are the privileged Novell desktop environment - 
> they both have the same status.

But what about specific installation tooling and new applications: I don't hope
Novell is creating a Yast specific for GNOME, one for KDE and one written
in MONO?

It could be done off course by using something like an observer like pattern:
create the functionality (backend) once and have different views on it using 
a GNOME/KDE/... frontend. What are the ideas on this for the OpenSUSE project?

As a usability example: I would like to have the ability to make some 
improvements (in my opinion) to e.g. you: When downloading the patches and 
everything went will I don't want to press the Finish button myself, I would 
like a checkbox that gives me the option to specify the behaviour I described 
above. When will development be open for these kind of issues, and who will 
decide if a proposed patch will be included or not?

Some short info about myself to put my remarks above in place: I'm a software
developer based in the Netherlands, started in 1990 with Ultrix on a VAX and 
started with the SLS Linux distribution in 1993. I have developed technical
software which mostly also included user interfaces for e.g. wafer steppers,
air/vessel traffic control, radiotherapy and I'm currently working on
self-checkout solutions for supermarkets. I've almost always worked on a 
UNIX/Linux platform.

> Regards
>   Christoph
 
Have a nice weekend,
 
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