Re: Ebay bargain

2001-03-11 Thread Chris Brogden

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, David P. Chernicoff wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1221445625
> 
> I don't think I can lose with this purchase

Wow, not bad.  Do you think the seller meant to put $100?

chris

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Don't you just hate being too late on eBay?

2001-03-11 Thread Todd Stanley


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1221287672

$99?!?!?  ARRGHHH 

Todd
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Re: 'Bye for now

2001-03-11 Thread PAUL STENQUIST



> 
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Mike Johnston wrote:
 
 > PDML friends,
 > I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project.
 > Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each
 > other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back.  

Gosh, we're gonna miss you, Mike. Your knowledge and experience are a
big plus around here. And, by the way, the seller ended the auction and
I got the lens. Thanks for the words of enablement :-)
Best,
Paul
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Re: 'Bye for now

2001-03-11 Thread Doug Brewer

Have fun, Mike. See ya when you get back.

Doug



At 6:48 PM -06003/11/01, Mike Johnston caused thus to appear:
>PDML friends,
>I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project.
>Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each
>other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back.  
>
>Bye,
>
>--Mike J.
-- 
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Re: MZ-S First look

2001-03-11 Thread Michael Perham

Jens Bladt wrote:

> Why don't we just buy it, guys - it may very well be our last (new) 35mm film
> camera.
> Heck, this one will outlast 35mm film, anyway.

Mine is on order... Local Pentax rep says delivery scheduled for June, but could
run into September.  Sigh!!!

Cheers, Mike.

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Re[2]: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye

2001-03-11 Thread Takehiko Ueda

Hi Paal,

You wrote:
> Free? Theres a catch. I signed up in january. It cost $1.
>  You're supposed to get a random four digit code with
> the charge on your credit card. They never did. I called
>  my bank; no code. No code on the invoince from the bank.
>  I've send them several e-mails but they never reply. So
>  it seems like a scam. You get thousands of peoples
> credit card number and charge all of them $1. Very few
> are going to complain about this kind of money but in
> total it sums up thousands of dollars. I'm still worried
>  that they have my credid card number. I'm considering
> contacting Visa.

I'm having the same problem as you had.  My credit card
company sent me a statement only with two digits.  I called
them up on the phone, and they told me to get in touch with
PayPal directly.

PayPal people sent me email, and they told me they can do
the "manual confirmation" process.  It goes like this.  You
make a photocopy of your photo ID and the credit card statement
with PayPal transaction.  Then you send them to PayPal, and
they can confirm your credit card in about 10 business days.

I had a little trouble at first, but now I'm in the process
and it seems to be working for me. :-)

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
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Re: 'Bye for now

2001-03-11 Thread Chris Brogden

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Mike Johnston wrote:

> PDML friends,
> I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project.
> Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each
> other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back.  

What's the project, Mike?  Care to share?  And good luck... we'll miss ya.

chris

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Takumar "normal lens" build quality: Does the SMC-K mesaure up?

2001-03-11 Thread Mike Johnston

Paul F. S. wrote:

> "The Takumar in question is a used lens, more than 25 years old. It is well
> built. If focuses more smoothly than any other lens I have ever used,
> including any Leica or Zeiss lens. It has spherical surfaces where
> other 50/1.4's have flat surfaces; it was among the first lenses on the
> market with multicoating. ...  Every surface is fully multicoated, not
> often the case on many
> lenses today. ...



Uh, that would be me who wrote that. And we all know I'm fulla shit.

--Mike


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'Bye for now

2001-03-11 Thread Mike Johnston

PDML friends,
I will be unsubscribing tomorrow for a few months, to work on a project.
Thanks for the good company and the enjoyable photo talk. Be nice to each
other while I'm gone, willya? You can pile on when I get back.  

Bye,

--Mike J.

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Re: Asahiflex part question

2001-03-11 Thread William Robb

The logical choice for this would be crazy glue, I suspect. As
long as you gave it a few days to degass, it wouldn't be a
problem with fogging other stuff that is near the camera.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: March 11, 2001 6:23 PM
Subject: Asahiflex part question


>
> Well, I just broke the tiny window of glass of the front of
the attached
> finder for my Asahiflex.  :(  This is the part that's on the
upper right
> of the camera when viewed from the front.  It's in three
pieces, which I
> have.  Is there a glue around which will cement these pieces
with minimal
> fogging of the glass?  I don't care if it fogs it a bit, as
long as it can
> hold these small pieces of glass relatively firmly.
>
> Or does anyone have this piece lying around as a spare?  I
know this is a
> long shot, but if anyone has this piece or knows of a repair
shop that
> does, please let me know.  In a worst-case scenario I can
probably tape it
> in with scotch tape, but I'd rather not.  Thanks!
>
> chris


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Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)

2001-03-11 Thread Chris Brogden

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Bob Poe wrote:

> Thanks for the info, Chris.  Only trouble is, even though they show it
> in their inventory, they don't "actually" stock it...only in their
> "virtual" stock does it exist.  It took two weeks to discover this
> fact.  They would not backorder it either.  I guess I need to do a new
> search and try calling an actual person to verify the tranaction.

That's odd.  I ordered mine on January 22, and it arrived on February 14
through surface shipping.  So I'm assuming that they had it in stock
then.  Wonder if I took their last copy.  :)  And what do you mean, they
won't backorder it?  You mean that they won't order a copy from the
publisher for you???  Isn't that their job?

chris

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RE: Pros don't use Pentax?

2001-03-11 Thread Todd Stanley


If you look into the insights page, it says he got started with his dad's
Pentax.  No mention if he still uses Pentax.

Todd

At 06:04 PM 3/11/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I liked the pictures but didn't see any mention of Pentax.
>Maybe I just missed it.
>
>Len
>---
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pål Jensen
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:19 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Pros don't use Pentax?
>>
>>
>> Well this one does:
>>
>> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/klum/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Pål
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Asahiflex part question

2001-03-11 Thread Chris Brogden


Well, I just broke the tiny window of glass of the front of the attached
finder for my Asahiflex.  :(  This is the part that's on the upper right
of the camera when viewed from the front.  It's in three pieces, which I
have.  Is there a glue around which will cement these pieces with minimal
fogging of the glass?  I don't care if it fogs it a bit, as long as it can
hold these small pieces of glass relatively firmly.

Or does anyone have this piece lying around as a spare?  I know this is a
long shot, but if anyone has this piece or knows of a repair shop that
does, please let me know.  In a worst-case scenario I can probably tape it
in with scotch tape, but I'd rather not.  Thanks!

chris

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RE: Pros don't use Pentax?

2001-03-11 Thread Chris Brogden

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Len Paris wrote:

> I liked the pictures but didn't see any mention of Pentax.
> Maybe I just missed it.

I believe he said his first camera was a Pentax, and that some of his
images are on display at some Pentax gallery in Japan.

chris

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Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)

2001-03-11 Thread Bob Poe

Thanks for the info, Chris.  Only trouble is, even
though they show it in their inventory, they don't
"actually" stock it...only in their "virtual" stock
does it exist.  It took two weeks to discover this
fact.  They would not backorder it either.  I guess I
need to do a new search and try calling an actual
person to verify the tranaction.
Cheers,
Bob



--- Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Bob Poe wrote:
> 
> > "You can see this on page 37 of Gerjan's book, for
> those of you who
> > have it.  Everyone else should buy a copy pronto. 
> :)"
> > 
> >  I have tried Barnes and Nobel and Amazon to order
> > this book, with no luck...any ideas about where I
> > might find it?  TIA...Bob
> 
> Hi, Bob.  It's at Amazon.  Try:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/907653702X/o/
>
qid=984354984/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-0754547-1220910
> 
> with all of that cut and pasted to one line of
> unbroken text.
> 
> If that doesn't work, run a search for "gerjan
> pentax" and it will come
> up.
> 
> chris
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RE: Pros don't use Pentax?

2001-03-11 Thread Len Paris

I liked the pictures but didn't see any mention of Pentax.
Maybe I just missed it.

Len
---

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> Subject: Pros don't use Pentax?
>
>
> Well this one does:
>
> http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/klum/index.html
>
>
>
> Pål

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Re: Self-timer on Super Program

2001-03-11 Thread Alan Chan

>Can someone tell me if there's a trick to using the self-timer
>on the Super Program?
>I've followed the instructions in the manual but it seems to
>trip the shutter immediately.

It could be because the contact under the self-timer switch is dirty. This 
is not uncommon. Mine had this problem before.

regards,
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Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)

2001-03-11 Thread Chris Brogden

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Bob Poe wrote:

> "You can see this on page 37 of Gerjan's book, for those of you who
> have it.  Everyone else should buy a copy pronto.  :)"
> 
>  I have tried Barnes and Nobel and Amazon to order
> this book, with no luck...any ideas about where I
> might find it?  TIA...Bob

Hi, Bob.  It's at Amazon.  Try:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/907653702X/o/
qid=984354984/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-0754547-1220910

with all of that cut and pasted to one line of unbroken text.

If that doesn't work, run a search for "gerjan pentax" and it will come
up.

chris

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Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)

2001-03-11 Thread Bob Poe

"You can see this on page 37 of Gerjan's book, for
those of you 
who
have it.  Everyone else should buy a copy pronto.  :)"

 I have tried Barnes and Nobel and Amazon to order
this book, with no luck...any ideas about where I
might find it?  TIA...Bob


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RE: Carl Zeiss Jena lenses: Are they "real" K mounts?

2001-03-11 Thread Rob Studdert

On 12 Mar 2001, at 0:24, Jens Bladt wrote:
I would have bought a Zeiss Jena
> 20mm, had I not found a "bargain" Pentax A for 295$ (I just love it, I
> regret not getting one 15 years ago!). An EX A2.8/20mm costs 504$ at KEH
> right now. I believe a new one is 749$.

And my SMCPA28f2 closes at auction in just over two hours (along with a 
heap of other gear) and would be a good buy compared to the prices that you 
cite.

See:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1219525344

Cheers,

Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)

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RE: Carl Zeiss Jena lenses: Are they "real" K mounts?

2001-03-11 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi
Zeiss Jena Lenses a generally very good. I use the MF lenses for my Pentacon
Six.
The 35mm lenses will not function like K-mounts on Pentax cameras (the ones
made for Praktica). You must use them with manual aperture (just like the
SMC 3.5/28mm shift lens) - no automatic stopping down when fired. Since
there is no aperture-simulator-pin, the Pentax camera will only measure
correctly, when stopped down to working aperture.
I've tried the Flektogon 2.8/20mm. It's excellent!
In my experience you could consider buying them, if you get a good bargain
(maybe half of a used Pentax K-mount lens) and if you plan to use them for
planned shooting - no repertage, when fast focusing is needed. (Since the
DOF is very large for wideangles, focusing is not all that critical for the
20mm). At ebay the 20mm often gets too expensive and reaches the same prices
as a Pentax (350-500$ - in mint condition they are collectibels). Optically
I think the 20mm Zeiss lens is similar to Pentax - some say it's better,
some say the f4.0 version is even sharper. I would have bought a Zeiss Jena
20mm, had I not found a "bargain" Pentax A for 295$ (I just love it, I
regret not getting one 15 years ago!). An EX A2.8/20mm costs 504$ at KEH
right now. I believe a new one is 749$.

Best Regards
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Pros don't use Pentax?

2001-03-11 Thread Pål Jensen

Well this one does:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/klum/index.html



Pål

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Re: LX rewind lever cover

2001-03-11 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

Well, I'll settle for that. I just want to keep my LX happy ;-)
Paul

"David P. Chernicoff" wrote:
> 
> At 04:57 PM 3/11/2001 -0500, PAUL STENQUIST wrote:
> >Oops, I meant the manual wind lever. It's retained by four little screws
> >and was heretofore covered with something. (I don't really remember what
> >the cover looked like. That makes it hard when you're trying to find it
> >:-) In any case, it's gone, and it's reassuring to hear you say that you
> >believe full parts support is still in place. That's what I figured, but
> >I needed some reinforcement.
> 
> I just ordered the film advance lever and cap from Pentax USA. The good
> news is that they were both in stock, and the lever cost $10.86 and the cap
> $2.88. The bad news is that the minimum shipping charge is $8. They also
> only deal in prepayment by check or COD. They are not the "accessories"
> department from which I have ordered parts before little missing plastic
> covers, et al.) and are not set up like the other two groups in CO, to take
> credit cards.
> 
> David<
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RE: MZ-S First look

2001-03-11 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi
Someone wrote:
Don't get me
>wrong, I like most of what I've heard about the
>camera.   Just don't want to part with that much
>money.

That's not fair: The MZ-S is clearly an F100 competitor. A used LN F100 cost
999$.
There are only few pro's et con's. If you own some Pentax/K-mount lenses,
the MZ-S pricing makes  sence. It would be more expensive to switch to
Nikon. It will be a nice "back-up camera" for pro's who are using the
digital version, Pentax 67 or 645. But it will not make anyone switch from
Nikon or Canon. The digital version might!
BTW, I think it's very understandable that Pentax makes this camera, not an
entry into the 35mm pro market. Not an F5 or an EOS1 competitor. The MZ
series is probably the largest SLR success Pentax has had since the break
through of autofocus.  Any sane businessman would try to follow up on this,
try topping it off with a more rugged, better featured, better designed
camera - still using the MZ concept. The entry into the "35mm" pro market is
the digital twin. If this turns out successfully, we might see other high
end 35mm cameras - film and digital - from Pentax. Untill we know, we'll try
to shoot great photographs with the MZ-S as well as all the other thousinds
Pentax cameras that's still working after 10, 20, 30, 40 years! Why don't we
just buy it, guys - it may very well be our last (new) 35mm film camera.
Heck, this one will outlast 35mm film, anyway.
Jens




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Re: Motor Drive MX and NiCad Pack LX...final update

2001-03-11 Thread Rob Studdert

On 11 Mar 2001, at 22:23, Steve Cottrell wrote:

> Further to my saga about re-celling a NiCad Pack LX so that I could use 
> it with my newly aquired Motor Drive MX: the pack is now completed, and 
> functioning great. Anyone in the UK wishing to undertake the exercise 
> should read Rob Studdert's excellent reference at:
> 
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/lxnicdpack.html

Hi Steve,

I am very pleased that you found my page of use :-)

I have been observing your progress and will be including the link that you 
posted in a future revision of the page. Thanks again.

Cheers,

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Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye

2001-03-11 Thread Pål Jensen

Paul wrote:

> If they  $1 shows up on your visa then code should its just a part of the
> paypal name on the visa card statement.

The $1 showed up all right but no code, only Paypal. When registering they send you an 
e-mail where they warn you of not calling your credit card company for getting the 
code. The whole thing smell fishy
A company that doesn't reply to e-mails is certainly suspect. 

Pål


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Re: What do you shoot, and why?

2001-03-11 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:47:35 -0500 (EST), Harry Baughman wrote:

> i like to shoot people. 

I thought that was illegal in most places... :-)))





Later,
Gary


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Re: LX rewind lever cover

2001-03-11 Thread David P. Chernicoff

At 04:57 PM 3/11/2001 -0500, PAUL STENQUIST wrote:
>Oops, I meant the manual wind lever. It's retained by four little screws
>and was heretofore covered with something. (I don't really remember what
>the cover looked like. That makes it hard when you're trying to find it
>:-) In any case, it's gone, and it's reassuring to hear you say that you
>believe full parts support is still in place. That's what I figured, but
>I needed some reinforcement.

I just ordered the film advance lever and cap from Pentax USA. The good 
news is that they were both in stock, and the lever cost $10.86 and the cap 
$2.88. The bad news is that the minimum shipping charge is $8. They also 
only deal in prepayment by check or COD. They are not the "accessories" 
department from which I have ordered parts before little missing plastic 
covers, et al.) and are not set up like the other two groups in CO, to take 
credit cards.

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Re: What do you shoot, and why?

2001-03-11 Thread Harry Baughman

 i like to shoot people. in the last month i have used 4 rolls of fuji
reala on members of my family. they needed photos of kids in the family
and  whole familys to hang on the walls. my sister wanted a generation
photo of my mom, her  daughter, her daughters daughter and you get what
i mean. i like to shoot old buildings such as gas stations and run down
structures.i like shoot some of those  above memtioned subjects with
t-max 3200 and  konica 3200. i do most of my shooting for my own
satisfaction all   thu  i  would love to make one big sale of a photo if
i could.





Hi George,

Not too long at all. The responses have been fascinating so far. I'm
finding out all kinds of cool things people do with their cameras that I'd
never thought about before. Biology and photography is an excellent mix :-)

Dan Scott
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George wrote:

>In a message dated 3/10/01 2:08:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>writes:
>
><< Dan Scott asks:
> > So, what do you shoot? And why that?
>  >>
>
>
>There is no way I can be as poetic as Glenn.  That is a tough act to follow.
>
>I shoot primarily animals and scenics.  My graduate education centered mostly
>on the study of small to medium sized mammals so many of my subjects are
>things that many people rarely see or at least do not pay much attention to
>(mice, squirrels, rabbits, etc.) but I am not beyond taking photos of
>antelope and deer and I have an extensive collection of slides from zoos.
>The scenics are generally taken when I am studying the animals or when I am
>on vacation.
>
>Fortunately my career affords me some opportunity to photograph both
>subjects.  I say "some opportunity" because my primary responsibility is to
>study the animals so I cannot generally wait around for the best light or for
>that critter to come out of its burrow.  As a museum curator, part of his job
>is to learn about my state and its natural history.  I can then interpret
>what I learn for the public.  As an example, recently, my boss and I gave a
>public program on rare and endangered plants and animals in the state of
>Nevada, USA.  Most of the habitats shots were taken by us.  The plant photos
>were all hers.  Unfortunately, I had to borrow or buy most of the animal
>slides.  Not only are these critters, by definition, rare and, therefore,
>difficult to find and photograph but there are ethical and legal
>considerations regarding getting close enough to them to get a good picture
>(this could be considered harassment).
>
>It is not at all unusual for me to loan my photos to our exhibit artist so
>she can get the feet right on some animal she is depicting.  A few of my
>shots may go into a new exhibit we are preparing and others will likely be
>used in the future.  I will continue to use my slides of more common animals
>in my public presentations.
>
>The other aspect of my photography is more documentary.  Most of you in this
>group have experience with friends and/or coworkers saying something like
>"Let's get the guy/gal with all the camera gear to take the photos."  This is
>both by design and because I generally have a camera around.  I am frequently
>the person with the camera at parties and public functions that many people
>try to avoid but later seek out to see the photos of other people.  Before I
>moved from Texas, I was fortunate enough to photograph two or three releases
>of formerly sick dolphins back to the wild.  Now I frequently document
>projects around the museum.  I have photographed buildings being constructed,
>exhibits being made, and an archeological dig that occurred in our parking
>lot [A pile of coin dies for the Carson City Mint was found.  [If you are
>"Coin Enthusiast" and want to know more contact me off the list.]  These
>types of shots frequently make it into the museum newsletter.  The coin stuff
>became an exhibit.
>
>Yes, we have a professionally trained photographer on staff.  He takes all
>the studio shots and does all the B&W reproductions but he is also
>responsible for exhibit design and construction so I sometimes fill in for
>the more impromptu stuff I have described above.
>I also take promotional and documentary photos of him teaching martial arts
>classes.  Its would be difficult for him to get punched by women and
>manhandle police (he can get away with this in this venue) and take the
>photos at the same time.  Actually, I am complemented he thinks enough of my
>photography to ask me to do this.
>
>To keep this too long note somewhat on topic -- Yes I use Pentax gear.  If
>any of the list's participants are going to be near Carson City, Nevada, USA
>(western Nevada) feel free to give me an email.  Like may locals, I am not
>terribly familiar with the "touristy" stuff to do but I can tell you where
>the museums and camera stores are and maybe give you ideas on a few
>photographic locations.  I know very little about Lake Tahoe, the casinos, or
>the brothels.
>
>Sorry about the length.  I know I am too dxxm wordy.
>

Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye

2001-03-11 Thread Paul Jones

i think there is a small fee with paypal when you are using a credit card
that is not in US dollars.?


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From: "Frits J. Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye


> I now registered for Billpoint, it does support buying outside of the USA,
> but for selling you need to be in the USA or Canada, so it is not so
> international as I first thought. The costs are for the seller, and
depends
> on the price, it starts with $0.35.
>
> I am in the process of signing up with Paypal, which also supports credit
> card buyers. You can set up your account in the USA, UK, France, Germany,
> with transfers the payments of your sales into your local bank account if
> you wish. It's cheaper then the others: free.
>
> > I've used BidPay http://www.bidpay.com/ a few times.  I live in
> > UK and most
> > auctions are US or Canadian. The advantage is that you pay by credit
card
> > which is the easiest way of doing currency conversions.  The seller gets
> > notified direct from BidPay that a money order is on its way so they can
> > ship the goods.  It costs the buyer $5 flat for payments less that $100
or
> > 2.25% +$5 for orders over $100. The seller pays nothing so has no
> > reason to
> > object to this method.
> >
> > I too have been watching those Zenitars - there seem to be lots
> > of them for
> > sale.  Would be interested in your views appearing here  once you've had
> > chance to use it.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Peter
>
> There is a second auction for the Pentax mounted 16mm Zenitars, also at
> $129.99.
> I noticed them for C as well, starting at $169.95, and for N,
> starting at $174.95. It's a pity to have a camera of such a good brand,
you
> have to pay more for your Zenitar because of that:-)
>
> I will report my findings here, I am interested in other opinions as well!
>
> Frits
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Re: Takumar "normal lens" build quality: Does the SMC-K mesaure up?

2001-03-11 Thread Rofini

Paul Strevetsky asks:

>Is the SMC 50/1.4K built as well as the best Pentax
>50 or 55mm screwmount lenses?

My K's have a focus feel about the same as the Takumars. And
like the Takumars, if the helicoid grease is fluid enouph the
focus feel is just about perfect. The best Takumars I have are a
little better than the K's, but I have many Takumars; few K's.
Strangely, the aperture ring of the K's is much coarser than the
Takumars. The difference in feel is extreme.

>"The Takumar in question is a used lens, more than
25 years old. It is well built. If focuses more smoothly
>than any other lens I have ever used...

>I wonder, however, whether the Leica user was
>referring to a normal lens of an earlier vintage than
>the Super Tak SMC.

Probably.

>He goes on to write, "It does have this wierd
>veiling-glare thing going on in some kinds of light that
>makes the highlights look almost flashed. Oh well.
>It ain't perfect."

>Doesn't sound like a description of a fully multicoated
>SMC. Maybe by the time the SMC came out, Pentax
>had begun to cut a few corners.

I'm guessing it was a Super-Takumar. Correct me if wrong, but I
think multicoating and super-multicoating are different things.
I've always been under the impression that Super-Takumars are
multicoated.

Mark Rofini


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Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye

2001-03-11 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

I did this and it worked fine, they debited the $1 off my visa, but then
credited it to my paypal account, so i used the $1 on my first transaction.

If they  $1 shows up on your visa then code should its just a part of the
paypal name on the visa card statement.

I also had a problem with my visa not working for a while and i called them
on the telephone and i found the staff to be very very helpful.

Cya
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye


Frits wrote:

> I am in the process of signing up with Paypal, which also supports credit
> card buyers. You can set up your account in the USA, UK, France, Germany,
> with transfers the payments of your sales into your local bank account if
> you wish. It's cheaper then the others: free.


Free? Theres a catch. I signed up in january. It cost $1. You're supposed to
get a random four digit code with the charge on your credit card. They never
did. I called my bank; no code. No code on the invoince from the bank. I've
send them several e-mails but they never reply. So it seems like a scam. You
get thousands of peoples credit card number and charge all of them $1. Very
few are going to complain about this kind of money but in total it sums up
thousands of dollars. I'm still worried that they have my credid card
number. I'm considering contacting Visa.

Pål


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EI-200 bargain on eBay, Hurry!

2001-03-11 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1220126084
It's only $534.99, which is a new lower price! The price may go up obviously
when the bidding starts.

If you really don't want to take advantage of this tremendous generous
offer, you can always order directly from B&H for $459.95

Frits

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Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s (was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)

2001-03-11 Thread Rob Studdert

On 11 Mar 2001, at 10:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

> Rob,
> 
> A longer barrel--such as that used on the SMC 28/2, which was designed 
> with Zeiss--can bend the rays more "gently." Isn't extra barrel distortion 
> one of the compromises usually introduced by a shorter lens (unless, 
> perhaps, an aspherical element is used)? Isn't that why "no compromise" 
> lenses are typically longer, and use more elements? Or do I need to brush 
> up on my limited understanding of Cartesian optics?
> 
> PS: Of course, every lens design is a compromise. By no-compromise, I mean 
> to suggest "the best a lens maker has to offer."

Hi Paul, 

Rectilinear lenses should all provide the same projection on the film plane, it 
they did not then straight objects placed at the edge of the frame would be 
rendered curved. Therefore all well corrected rectilinear lenses should provide 
the same degree of subject elongation. The fact that the better SLR wide 
angle lenses (particularly pre-aspheric) tend to be long is due to their 
retrofocus design which is by all means a compromise designed to make 
available space in front of the film plane for the SLR mirror to swing. 

Don't kid yourself about SLR wide angle lenses, for real no compromise 
designs check out the Leica-M, Contax-G and Mamiya RF designs, most 
are virtually symmetrical designs and have a magnitude lower distortion than 
the best retrofocus wides, many are designed such that their rear elements 
are merely mm from the film plane. :-) 

Cheers, 


Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)

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OT - If you know your Tokina hoods, please read!

2001-03-11 Thread Steve Cottrell

Hi listers,

On the subject of lens hoods, does anyone know if Tokina ever made a 
plastic (or metal, for that matter) 'grippy-type' push-on lens hood in 
67mm diameter size? The part designation would (should) be something 
like: SH-671 or similar. For instance, I have the Tokina ATX 80-200 f2.8 
(manual) and the hood for that is the SH-771, and it's a 77mm fit.

If one was never made for that diameter, as I suspect is the case, can 
anyone recommend a push-on and clamp type hood suitable for a 67mm lens, 
specifically the Pentax A*85mm 1.4 ??

Many thanks,

Cotty

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Motor Drive MX and NiCad Pack LX...final update

2001-03-11 Thread Steve Cottrell

Further to my saga about re-celling a NiCad Pack LX so that I could use 
it with my newly aquired Motor Drive MX: the pack is now completed, and 
functioning great. Anyone in the UK wishing to undertake the exercise 
should read Rob Studdert's excellent reference at:

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/lxnicdpack.html

but if you can find the relevant replacement batteries in the UK, you've 
search longer and harder than the literally dozens of phone calls I made. 
Instead, order from the equally excellent Batteries America:

http://www.mrnicd-ehyostco.com/newpage3.htm

where 4 sticks of three cells each were made up and shipped out to me for 
a total of 62 dollars (about 43 UKP paid by credit card - I phoned the 
order through on first thing Friday morning Wisconson time - EST?). They 
were shipped out on Monday the 5th of March from Wisconson and arrived 
five days later on Saturday the 11th.

The actual recelling job itself took a couple of hours, but I was being 
very thorough, and my soldering technique is more akin to arc welding; a 
more proficient person could halve the time, I am sure.

As far as costs go, it's not cheap, but cheaper than buying a NiCad pack 
in good condition - if you can find one. They rarely come without an LX 
motor drive attached - nice if you've got the LX ;-) and are all likely 
to need recelling anyway. My pack came with a charger (Charge Pack M) and 
was bought as seen for 120 UKP. Add the recelling, and that's up to over 
160 UKP. Hefty.

Is it worth it to get from the 2 fps with the Winder MX to the 5 fps of 
the drive? IMHO, yes. Using old-fashioned (!) equipment is very much a 
cognitive decision, and so supporting that equipment with any and all 
ancillary add-ons is all part and parcel. If you run an old sports car, 
you tend to (want to) try and restore it to it's former glory, often at 
greater cost than perhaps buying a modern sports car. The point is, I 
decided I don't want a modern sports car - just yet!

Cheers,

Cotty

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I screwed up

2001-03-11 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

All those looking for a 50/1.4 smc/K have every right to be annoyed with
me. But it was an accident. I'm talking about the current ebay auction
for above nemed lens. It was "buy-it-now at $89. And while I've
participated in numerous ebay auctions, I've never done a "buy-it-now."
So I bid $89. That's not how it works. You're supposed to click on the
"buy it now thingy." So I eliminated any opportunity for buy it now, and
probably drove the price up. Hey, us old guys have trouble with stuff
like that.
Paul
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OT: Salgado interview

2001-03-11 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

I found this interesting interview with Salgado from last year when
his 2 books "Migrations" and "The Children" were published.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/magazine/archive/23-5-19100-0-26-29.html

---
Regards,
 Bob

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Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)

2001-03-11 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:
> I was wondering how can I select the X if it's between the 1/30 & 1/60 - is
> there an intermediate click-stop there, or I have to resort to 1/30?


On the models I'm familiar with, there's an extra click-stop there
(gotta remember to account for it when adjusting shutter speed by
touch).  I would expect the same on the SV.

-- Glenn

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FS: leatheret case for 28mm 3.5 hood

2001-03-11 Thread Philippe Trottier



I don't attach too much importance to name , so for 
those interested I have a leatheret case that was meant for
28mm 3.5 M42 lense "HOOD", price, 2 chocolate 
bar...
 
Philippe
 


RE: South Africa

2001-03-11 Thread Jens Bladt

Thanks!
Yeah, you're right. I'll try to think of something!
Jens

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Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: South Africa


Very nice, Jens.

I just wish I didn't have to keep scrolling from left to right and back
again.

Maris

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:11 PM
Subject: South Africa


| Hi fellow Pentaxians
| I have put a few South Africa pictures on my homepage:
| www.jensbladt.freeservers.com
| Take a look!
| Best Regards
| Jens
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Re: FP and X was(Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera )

2001-03-11 Thread Philippe Trottier

OK OK, about X, what is FP ??? I never used it, and no one ever told me or
knew what it is for... any "light" hee ?



> I was wondering how can I select the X if it's between the 1/30 & 1/60 -
is
> there an intermediate click-stop there, or I have to resort to 1/30?
>
> Frantisek
> and thanks for all the info!
>
>
> ***Glenn wrote: ***
> On the S1a and H3, all the _marked[*]_ speeds are in the
> .../15/30/60/125/... pattern, but the 'X' speed is in
> between 1/30 and 1/60.  Could that be the source of
> the confusion?
>
> ([*]Uh, that is, the sync speed _is_ marked, but it's marked
> with an X instead of a number.)
>
> -- Glenn


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Re: South Africa

2001-03-11 Thread IronWorks

Very nice, Jens.

I just wish I didn't have to keep scrolling from left to right and back
again.

Maris

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Subject: South Africa


| Hi fellow Pentaxians
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| Take a look!
| Best Regards
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Re: Pentax SV (brochure) - nice camera :)

2001-03-11 Thread canislupus


I was wondering how can I select the X if it's between the 1/30 & 1/60 - is
there an intermediate click-stop there, or I have to resort to 1/30?

Frantisek
and thanks for all the info!


***Glenn wrote: ***
On the S1a and H3, all the _marked[*]_ speeds are in the 
.../15/30/60/125/... pattern, but the 'X' speed is in
between 1/30 and 1/60.  Could that be the source of
the confusion?

([*]Uh, that is, the sync speed _is_ marked, but it's marked
with an X instead of a number.)

-- Glenn

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South Africa

2001-03-11 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi fellow Pentaxians
I have put a few South Africa pictures on my homepage:
www.jensbladt.freeservers.com
Take a look!
Best Regards
Jens

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Flash Programs (was:MZ-S Press Release in Japan Part II)

2001-03-11 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi Take and all
Thanks for responding.
One of the things I miss with my PZ1-p is good flash programs.
I don't like motiv programs for flashless photographing. But I would like
some flash programs, selectable with a single botton, like:
1. Slow flash (FDA - Flash Determins Aperture): Speed according to
background/aperture to flash output/distance to subject. (It's almost there
in the with PZ1-p, but I hate that the camera chooses 1/30 sec. thus
underexposing the background if the correct speed really is 1/8 sec.
2. Traditional program (to freeze movement). It could be optional Tv or Av
priority, feeding the focus distance/max. flash output to the camera CPU
when shooting in Av.
3. Fill in flash, for e.i. back lit scenes or direct sunlight with hard
shadows.
Doesn't anybody make this kind of stuff?
Jens

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Emne: Re[2]: MZ-S Press Release in Japan Part II (Was: Silver MZ-S)


Hi Jens,

You wrote:
> Hi
> Tank you Take, great!
> Can anyone please explain waht this means:
> (Programme with flash sync applicable)
> Jens

Sorry to confuse you, this was too vague.  To make it
simple, they say that you can use flash while you are
choosing programme mode.

I don't know if this means the all speed sync with flash.

Sincerely,


Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan
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RE: a day of firsts

2001-03-11 Thread William Johnson

César,

I'm just catching up too...I developed and printed my
first roll of 120 last night, so I was up until 3:00
a.m.

I had forgotten about the 110's at Forester's. 
Howell's had a couple in the display case just as you
enter the store the last time I was in.

I hope that your stay here is enjoyable.  I had a
great time at our get together friday and hope that
you can make it out again this way soon.

William in Utah.
>William,
>
I am finally catching up with the list.

I have to add that I had a great time Friday
>afternoon.  With your
>insights on the place and locales I am sure it will
>make my short stay here
>more enjoyable.

Congratulations on the photographic job.  I
>most definitely get in
>touch whenever I come this way again.

You would have enjoyed it earlier today.  I
>had the LX on one
>shoulder and the MX on the other.  Sprinkling rain
>did not even slow me one
>bit in taking photos.  Well, yes it did, I had to
>wipe the water drops off
>the front element of the 28 and 50.  It was nice to
>have the hoods on the
>135 and 200.

César
Still in Utah



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scarce K's on ebay

2001-03-11 Thread Daphne

noticed the mint shift lens which looks like its gonna go for 460$ in a
few hours?
and now there's an 'exc'  18mm f3.5 which showed up..
not to mention the 50mm f1.4..


Daphne


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Re: Don't be such an ass

2001-03-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds



aimcompute wrote:

> It's like receiving an A+ from a teacher in school.  The highest grade one
> can receive is an, the + is used for emphasis.

Uh, not to be sarcastic, but where I come from, an A denotes 80 to 89
percent while an A+ is for 90 to 100%.  Mint+ is like saying that mint
can be less than perfect, therefore there is a grade above it.

-Aaron

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Re: OT: first cold head results

2001-03-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds



PAUL STENQUIST wrote:

> (I tried
> ordering some graded paper from B&H. While they list a fair amount of
> it, they have very little in stock, at least in 11 x 14.)

Funny story: I ordered a whack of Ilford graded fibre in October to
cover the first-year gallery assignments at Sheridan (the local college
with a good full time photography program).  The 11x14 grade two and
three all showed up immediately.  The 16x20 grade two and three came in
a few weeks later.  The 16x20 grade four showed up another few weeks
after that.  The 11x14 grade four showed up last week.  It's not that
Ilford are slow, it's that demand is so low for some grades that they
don't stock it in North America.  Yikes!

-Aaron


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Re: Belated PUG comments

2001-03-11 Thread Jostein Øksne

aimcompute wrote:
>" Descending plane " by Jostein Øksne, Norway
>Neat shot, love the lights tracking down the runway.


Thanks, Tom.
Jostein


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Self-timer on Super Program

2001-03-11 Thread Mark Roberts

Can someone tell me if there's a trick to using the self-timer
on the Super Program?
I've followed the instructions in the manual but it seems to
trip the shutter immediately.
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Great lens on eBay!

2001-03-11 Thread Gary L. Murphy

Spotted on eBay:

Pentax - Fast 50mm/1.4 SMC - Mint

This is the "K" version. It has a Buy It Now price of, $89.95.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1221147215



Later,
Gary


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Re: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4

2001-03-11 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:07:54 -0500, Mark Cassino wrote:

>I have the black 80-320 - aren't the two identical except for the color?

I don't know. That's why I asked. :-)

>  I personally have found it to be a very nice lens.

That's what I needed to know Wonder why they dropped the black one?

Thanks!




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Gary


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Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

2001-03-11 Thread Pål Jensen

Mike wrote:

> Would this argue _against_ it being a Limited?? I mean, so far, all the
> Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, have they not? And from
> what I hear, that was a deliberate part of the prospectus for the Limited
> lenses--or is this not so?

How unique can it possible be and still stay in this focal lenght range? I mean, 14mm, 
15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm all exist and unless Pentax makes an 17,5mm 
they can hardly be unique. 


Pål


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Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

2001-03-11 Thread Pål Jensen

Ralf wrote:


> I think it is as much possible that this lens is a limited lens as it 
> is that it is a FA* lens. 


I agree. Its an open question. It doubt, though, that is is a plain FA lens.


>For me the limited lenses are more or 
> less new editions of the most outstanding M-series lenses. E.g. this 
> way:
> 
> M 2.8/40mm  >  FA 1.9/43mm limited
> M 2.0/85mm  >  FA 1.8/77mm limited
> M 2.0/28mm  >  FA 1.8/31mm limited


Hmm...I'm not sure. I think that K lenses also are factore here. The 31 LImited is 
closer to the K 30/2.8. Also, the M 85/2.0 is hardly a legend but the K 85/1.8 
definitely is so I think the 77/1.8 Limited is closer to the K lens. Since there is a 
K 18mm lens a new FA 18mm could be a Limited lens. Time will tell.


Pål

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Re: Inexpensive K-mount camera for teaching kids photography

2001-03-11 Thread Gary J Sibio

At 09:46 AM 3/11/01 -0600, you wrote:

>Spotted at ritzcamera.com, for $110 you can get a new Ricoh with 35-70mm
>zoom lens:
>http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/ritzcamera/ritz.d2w/r
>eport?prp=CLRSLRC002
>
>Free shipping too.  At that price I might have to pick one up :)

Link didn't work. However you can find it by going to their site and doing 
a search on Ricoh. Scroll down a bit.



Pax et bonum,
Gary J. Sibio, SFO

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Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

2001-03-11 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:32:37 +1300, David A. Mann wrote:

>
> If the SLR uses 35mm-system lenses then a "normal" lens would be about 
>35mm, I guess.  Have you ever priced a 35mm f/1.4?  Canon's 35/1.4 USM 
>lens is 4 times the price of their 50/1.4 USM down here.

I think you're mixing thing up here David,

The digital SLR (MZ-D ?) will heve a 24x36 mm sensor, equal in size to
the 35mm system FILM camera's.

So the "normal" lense would be the same focal length too.

Theoretically this would be 43mm (do I hear black limitted ? :-) and any of
the existing 50mm lenses will do just fine ...

Regards, JvW

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Re: 28-105 powerzoom vs 28-70/4

2001-03-11 Thread Mark Cassino

I have the black 80-320 - aren't the two identical except
for the color?  I personally have found it to be a very nice
lens.

- MCC

At 10:44 PM 3/10/01 -0600, Gary L. Murphy wrote:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:19:45 -0500, Mark
Cassino wrote:

>For me - the 28-70 and 80-320 make a great pair, easy to carry in a
small 

Mark,

Is the 80-320 you have the black "FA" or the silver one? How do
the two compare? I've been looking at the 
silver one, since it seems to be the only one around now, but wanted to
know from someone first hand.

Thanks!




Later,
Gary


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Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s(was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)

2001-03-11 Thread Alexander Krohe

Hi, 
I am not Rob but I think he's right. 
I my (also limited) understanding the elongation of
objects near the edge of the image produced by
rectilinear super wide angle lenses is not related to
optical aberrations of these lenses. It is inherent in
how the image is projected on the film by these
lenses. 
To avoid this you need a "cylindrical projection"
(with the viewer in the center of the cylinder) as is
provided e.g. by the Seitz roundshot camera. 
Also fish-eye lenses do not show such kind of
elongations of close subjects near the edge. 

Alexander


Mike Johnston wrote: 
Rob,
A longer barrel--such as that used on the SMC 28/2,
which was designed with
Zeiss--can bend the rays more "gently." Isn't extra
barrel distortion one
of the compromises usually introduced by a shorter
lens (unless, perhaps,
an aspherical element is used)? Isn't that why "no
compromise" lenses are
typically longer, and use more elements? Or do I need
to brush up on my
limited understanding of Cartesian optics?

PS: Of course, every lens design is a compromise. By
no-compromise, I mean
to suggest "the best a lens maker has to offer."


"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Subject: Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party
Lenses vs. Three
Pentax 28/2s (was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)

On 10 Mar 2001, at 19:20,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> To my eye, 28mm is the widest
> practical focal length for "people-shooting," which
is what I do. True,
it
> makes people at the edges of the frame look fat. But
this problem is
> minimized by selecting a well-corrected prime.

Hi Paul,

Please explain, to my mind there should be a similar
degree of perspective
distortion present (ie elongation of close objects at
the edge of the
frame) in
any well corrected optic. The only way that I can
imagine that there would
be
differences is if the lens that looks more normal has
a semi-spherical
plane
of focus?

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
Fax +61-2-9554-9259
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

2001-03-11 Thread Paul . Stregevsky

The unique focal lengths were no doubt chosen, in large part, so as not to
cannibalize sales of the non-Limited lenses. There is, however, no new 18mm
lens in the regular lineup, so there's nothing to lose by introducing it as
a Limited.

--

Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:57:33 -0600
From: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

So far, all the Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, have they
not? And from
what I hear, that was a deliberate part of the prospectus for the Limited
lenses--or is this not so?

- --Mike

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Inexpensive K-mount camera for teaching kids photography

2001-03-11 Thread Todd Stanley


Spotted at ritzcamera.com, for $110 you can get a new Ricoh with 35-70mm
zoom lens:
http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/ritzcamera/ritz.d2w/r
eport?prp=CLRSLRC002

Free shipping too.  At that price I might have to pick one up :)

Todd
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Re: LX rewind lever cover

2001-03-11 Thread Bob Blakely

Last I heard, Pentax was still supporting the LX and I expect them to
support it for some time to come. I Understand Pentax US had all parts
necessary last year and I expect they have this part today to restore any LX
to an "as sold" late model state. That being said, I own 5 LX's and none
have or ever had a "little plastic (?) cover off[on] the top of the rewind
[knob/lever]. They have a black/metallic rewind knob out of which a rewind
crank folds similar to all my camera types. It is naked with no cover as are
all my other cameras. Did you loose this crank/knob?

Regards,
Bob...

Give blood. Play hockey.

From: "PAUL STENQUIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> When I was out shooting yesterday, I somehow knocked the little plastic
> (?) cover off the top of the rewind know on my LX. I looked around the
> area where I was shooting for a while, but couldn't find it. (I was on
> frozen mud and grass, so the odds were against finding it.) Is there
> some way I can obtain a cap? Would Pentax supply that as a part? I don't
> suppose anyone out there has an LX that they've relegated to the parts
bin?
> Paul


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Re: OT: Modified Film Processing, advice please.

2001-03-11 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

I would develop the negs normal or with just a minimal push. I certainly
wouldn't push the film a full stop. I might add 10% development time or
so, but that's about it. If you need more contrast, you can accomplish
that with paper grade or filtration when printing. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I was the pit crew photographer for a friends SCCA race car
> effort
> (Alfa Romeo GTV-6 FWIW) at Texas World Speedway.  The day started out
> bright
> and I loaded some Fuji Neopan SS ISO 100 into my (required Pentax
> content)
> PZ-20 and snapped on the Sigma 28-200 lens.  By the time we arrived at
> the
> track it was starting to cloud over and I would have liked to change
> over to
> Ilford HP-5 at ISO 400 (midrole change would be nice).  Anyway, I
> finished
> the day with 1 role of the Neopan and 3 roles of the HP-5 exposed at
> rated
> ISO.  Now to the question.  The overcast day brought on some pretty
> flat
> lighting, with some occasional sunny times.  Today I want to develop
> these
> rolls and I am thinking I would like to  perk up the negs a bit.  My
> first
> thought is to just develop them at a higher ISO.  I only have Ilford
> Ilfosol-S available today.  The Ilford data sheets tell me that I can
> get ISO
> 800 on the HP-5 by increasing development time.  I imagine the same is
> true
> of the Fuji but I don't have any tech details on the film yet, got it
> on sale
> and I usually don't use Fuji B/W.  These are important pics for me and
> my
> friend and could result in a pic credit or two in the national Alfa
> magazine.
>  Iwould also like to give my friend a nice enlargement for his
> allowing me
> into the pits with him.  Advice on how to procede is welcome.  Waiting
> and
> using another developer is an option.
> 
> Jerry in Houston
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Re: OT: first cold head results

2001-03-11 Thread PAUL STENQUIST



Anthony Farr wrote:

> 
> I would say, Paul, that you're still printing with a condensor system, but
> you've exchanged the opal bulb for a cold-light head.  To get a diffused
> system you need to have the diffused light source, or a diffusion-box,
> directly over the film-stage.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. The Stage VI cold light conversion replaces
the B22's condensers and light source, so the cold light box is directly
over the film stage. 

> Also, you don't mention what film you were printing.  

I've been printing T-Max 400. I made another dozen or so prints
yesterday. I'm quite pleased with the results. I guess I had expected a
loss of apparent sharpness, but that doesn't seem to be the case, and
the overall richness of the prints is nice.
Paul
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[FW: Pentak K1000 and Lens & more.]

2001-03-11 Thread Todd Stanley


Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace.35mm
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace

Todd


Subject: 
 FS: Pentak K1000 and Lens & more.
Date: 
 Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:44:01 -0600 (CST)
   From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ANDREW)
 Organization: 
 WebTV Subscriber
 Newsgroups: 
 rec.photo.marketplace.35mm




For Sale:
Pentak K 1000 camera and SMC Pentax-A 1:2 50mm Lens.
Camera is in great shape. There is a little nick on the battery door.
The lens is in great shape. There are some scracthes on the outside part
were the filters screw in. I also have.
2 Camera bags. One is a (New) Kalimar Pro-Tech bag. It's gray and
measures 11in. x 8in. x 6.5in. The other is a Coast S-1 bag. It is tan
and measures about the same. It may be a hair bigger. Also 2 camera
straps. One is a Kalimar Ultrawide strap. I don't know what the other
one is. The Kalimer is new in the pack. Also I have a Kalimar PS-3 Light
Weight Tripod. Also Kalimar Close up filters. Size 52mm (+1 +2 +4) 

Asking $225.00 OBO For all of it. Includes S/H in the USA.



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[FW: PentaxSpotmatic SP w/4 SMC lenses.]

2001-03-11 Thread Todd Stanley


Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace.35mm
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace

Todd



Subject: 
 FS: PentaxSpotmatic SP w/4 SMC lenses.
Date: 
 10 Mar 2001 01:46:24 GMT
   From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pafralio)
 Organization: 
 AOL http://www.aol.com
 Newsgroups: 
 rec.photo.marketplace.35mm




Camera and lenses in good shape cosmetically; meter works although not
testedforaccuracy.  All lenses have front and rear lens caps.  Lenses are as
follows:

35mm f3.5
105mm f2.8
135mm f3.5
200mm f4.0

$500.00, shipped CONUS.


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[FW:Pentax 645 Outift]

2001-03-11 Thread Todd Stanley


Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace

Todd


Subject: 
Pentax 645 Outift
   Date: 
Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:56:52 -0600
   From: 
"jsrtheta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Newsgroups: 
rec.photo.marketplace




FS:  Pentax 645 body, soft case, 120 insert, manual.  Lenses included: 45mm,
55mm, 75mm, 150mm.

$2000 + shipping, firm.

Jeff Ryan
(773) 868-9213, or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: IS

2001-03-11 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

Thanks Ralf!

> 
> Frits wrote:
> 
> > How does IS work? I have seen it done with video camera's where 
> > it is done electronically, but how do you do it with a photo 
> > camera?
> 
> It is done by adjusting a lens element with fast microdrives 
> (tilting I think), which compensates for the change of the optical 
> axis. This technique is also used in binoculars (e.g. Canon). It is 
> even possible to move the lens element with a clever mechanics alone, 
> but the precision effort is so high that this is not realized in 
> photo lenses. A pure mechanical image stabilized Zeiss binocular 
> exists (very expensive).
> 
> This reminds me that Pentax holds an old Patent about an autofocus 
> shift lens. This lens uses an internal shift, means only one lens 
> element is moved to create a shift effect for architecture work. Like 
> many other Patents, this product never was marketed.
> 
> Ralf

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Re: fast 28mm shootoff--Vivitar Series 1 vs. Kiron (was My lens collection (was 24mm-K's))

2001-03-11 Thread pdml

Paul Stregevsky wrote:

> Have you tried the Vivitar 35/.9? I see it listed all the time in M42
> and non-Pentax bayonet mounts. I believe it was single-coated.
> That's all I know.

Paul,

I assume you are talking about the Vivitar 35mm f1.9 lens.  I've got 
one of these in M42 mount that came with a M42 - K adapter 
attached to it.  ( Whoever put the adapter on had no intention of 
ever removing it, they took the "locking" pin off of the adapter! )

The lens is surprisingly good for a mid 70's Third Party lens.  It is 
prone to a little flare, and benefits from a good lens hood.

This lens convinced me to start working toward a SMC Pentax-M 
35mm f2.0.  I like 35mm for many "People" pictures, and a fast f-
stop allows me to forgo flash when necessary.  ( I'm about to list this 
lens and a Vivitar 28mm f2.8 on eBay, gotta sell so stuff if I want to 
buy that SMC! )

Mark Gosdin
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Re: relaxer for film?

2001-03-11 Thread Mike Johnston

tv wrote:

> It will...every roll of b+w I develop curls, but they flatten fine under
> weight. I use a box of paper.


Film and paper will curl less if it dries more slowly. Just increase the
humidity of the drying environment and the film will curl less.

--Mike

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Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three Pentax 28/2s(was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)

2001-03-11 Thread Paul . Stregevsky

Rob,

A longer barrel--such as that used on the SMC 28/2, which was designed with
Zeiss--can bend the rays more "gently." Isn't extra barrel distortion one
of the compromises usually introduced by a shorter lens (unless, perhaps,
an aspherical element is used)? Isn't that why "no compromise" lenses are
typically longer, and use more elements? Or do I need to brush up on my
limited understanding of Cartesian optics?

PS: Of course, every lens design is a compromise. By no-compromise, I mean
to suggest "the best a lens maker has to offer."


"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Subject: Re: 28/2-class lens specs: Seven Third-Party Lenses vs. Three
Pentax 28/2s (was: Re: fast kiron on ebay)

On 10 Mar 2001, at 19:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> To my eye, 28mm is the widest
> practical focal length for "people-shooting," which is what I do. True,
it
> makes people at the edges of the frame look fat. But this problem is
> minimized by selecting a well-corrected prime.

Hi Paul,

Please explain, to my mind there should be a similar degree of perspective
distortion present (ie elongation of close objects at the edge of the
frame) in
any well corrected optic. The only way that I can imagine that there would
be
differences is if the lens that looks more normal has a semi-spherical
plane
of focus?

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
Fax +61-2-9554-9259
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: eBay payment methods / Zenitar fisheye

2001-03-11 Thread Peter Smith

I've used BidPay http://www.bidpay.com/ a few times.  I live in UK and most
auctions are US or Canadian. The advantage is that you pay by credit card
which is the easiest way of doing currency conversions.  The seller gets
notified direct from BidPay that a money order is on its way so they can
ship the goods.  It costs the buyer $5 flat for payments less that $100 or
2.25% +$5 for orders over $100. The seller pays nothing so has no reason to
object to this method.

I too have been watching those Zenitars - there seem to be lots of them for
sale.  Would be interested in your views appearing here  once you've had
chance to use it.

Regards

Peter


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frits J. Wüthrich
> Sent: 11 March 2001 11:46
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: eBay payment methods
>
>
> Now that I participated in my first eBay auction I gain interest in it.
> I have read on this list from members stating they will use nothing else
> then paypal. Since the participating country list is so limited, I wonder
> what they think of Billpoint? That one is world-wide.
>
> Are there other services like that? Advantages/disadvantages?
>
> Any input is welcome.
>
> Frits (now waiting for his Zenitar M 2.8/16mm) Wuthrich
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Re: For Sale Tokina 80-400 AF Zoom Lens!

2001-03-11 Thread Mike Johnston

Tom R. wrote:

> And the  was meant to be humorous, I mean,
> people I know don't talk like that.  And going out of my way to
> make it clear I was being sarcastic, I thought would be taken to
> be in fun.  It certainly was more apparent than a smiley face.
> But, I guess one man's sense of humor is another man's rudeness.
> - --Tom


I certainly didn't see anything at all objectionable in your post, and I was
surprised that anyone could. I share your disgust with inflated equipment
ratings on eBay and everywhere else. "Mint plus" is patently absurd and
there's nothing wrong that I can see with pointing that out.

I was told by one dealer once that a "9 out of 10" was "at least four grades
down from perfect" for them because you had 9+, 10-, and mint- before you
got to "mint."

I told him that by my arithmetic, 4 grades down from a 10 was a 6, a number
which would have accurately described the "9" camera he sent me. Cheating
bastard.

--Mike


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OT: Modified Film Processing, advice please.

2001-03-11 Thread GLewis4457
Yesterday I was the pit crew photographer for a friends SCCA race car effort 
(Alfa Romeo GTV-6 FWIW) at Texas World Speedway.  The day started out bright 
and I loaded some Fuji Neopan SS ISO 100 into my (required Pentax content) 
PZ-20 and snapped on the Sigma 28-200 lens.  By the time we arrived at the 
track it was starting to cloud over and I would have liked to change over to 
Ilford HP-5 at ISO 400 (midrole change would be nice).  Anyway, I finished 
the day with 1 role of the Neopan and 3 roles of the HP-5 exposed at rated 
ISO.  Now to the question.  The overcast day brought on some pretty flat 
lighting, with some occasional sunny times.  Today I want to develop these 
rolls and I am thinking I would like to  perk up the negs a bit.  My first 
thought is to just develop them at a higher ISO.  I only have Ilford 
Ilfosol-S available today.  The Ilford data sheets tell me that I can get ISO 
800 on the HP-5 by increasing development time.  I imagine the same is true 
of the Fuji but I don't have any tech details on the film yet, got it on sale 
and I usually don't use Fuji B/W.  These are important pics for me and my 
friend and could result in a pic credit or two in the national Alfa magazine. 
 Iwould also like to give my friend a nice enlargement for his allowing me 
into the pits with him.  Advice on how to procede is welcome.  Waiting and 
using another developer is an option.

Jerry in Houston


Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

2001-03-11 Thread Ralf Engelmann

Mike wrote:

> Ralf wrote:

>> I'm starting to wonder whether it can be a Limited lens.
>> Another thing that makes me smell Limited here is that the
>> 18mm is a classic K mount focal lenght.

> Would this argue _against_ it being a Limited?? I mean, so far,
> all the Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, ...

Though I would like to be an owner of a K 18mm, it was Paal who wrote 
this.

I think it is as much possible that this lens is a limited lens as it 
is that it is a FA* lens. For me the limited lenses are more or 
less new editions of the most outstanding M-series lenses. E.g. this 
way:

M 2.8/40mm  >  FA 1.9/43mm limited
M 2.0/85mm  >  FA 1.8/77mm limited
M 2.0/28mm  >  FA 1.8/31mm limited

There was a very compact M 4.0/20mm, so in case the 18mm is not f2.8 
but slower, it could be a limited lens, but I rather see it as a FA* 
lens, especially since the 20mm is a standard FA-type. If you ask me, 
a limited superwideangle would rather be a moderate fast 21mm than a 
18mm. Also, a mid tele was rumored as the next limited lens (whatever 
this is worth).


Ralf
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LX rewind lever cover

2001-03-11 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

When I was out shooting yesterday, I somehow knocked the little plastic
(?) cover off the top of the rewind know on my LX. I looked around the
area where I was shooting for a while, but couldn't find it. (I was on
frozen mud and grass, so the odds were against finding it.) Is there
some way I can obtain a cap? Would Pentax supply that as a part? I don't
suppose anyone out there has an LX that they've relegated to the parts bin?
Paul
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Re: OT: first cold head results

2001-03-11 Thread Anthony Farr

Paul Stenquist wrote:

(snip)
> And of course I'm using the same lower head with both the condensers and
the cold head,
(snip)


I would say, Paul, that you're still printing with a condensor system, but
you've exchanged the opal bulb for a cold-light head.  To get a diffused
system you need to have the diffused light source, or a diffusion-box,
directly over the film-stage.

Also, you don't mention what film you were printing.  Traditional b&w films
create the Callier effect when printed with condensed light (extremely so
with point-source light) which causes tonal distortion in the mid-tones.
This is because light is scattered by the silver grains and the paper
receives less exposure than a particular density of silver theoretically
should have transmitted.  However the clear film doesn't cause any
appreciable scatter so practically all of the light reaching the negative is
passed to the paper from the clear shadows.  The effect isn't as noticeable
in the highlights because that area is usually printed to the same density
as a matter of the individual operator's preference.  Your mileage may vary
:-)

Chromogenic films (be they b&w or colour) have had the silver grains removed
by bleaching when processed, the image is a dye-image only so there is no
Callier effect.  What this means is that chromogenic films will print with
the same characteristics whether a condensor or a diffusion enlarger is
used.  Silver grained films, OTOH, will behave very differently according to
the illumination type of the enlarger.  Unless you use the same type of film
you could be comparing apples with oranges!

Regards,
Anthony Farr



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Re: Repeat messages?

2001-03-11 Thread Anthony Farr

Ken Archer confessed:

> I have a feeling I am partially responsible.  My ISP, Roadrunner,
installed an
> "upgrade" on its mail server about a week ago.  It crashed big time on
Monday
> night right after I posted some new stuff on ebay.  What else can you
expect
> from NT?  I have been without email service for three days and I guess
> everything was getting bounced back to Majordomo.  Sorry.  I just couldn't
help
> it and I'll never do it again ;-).I hope.
>

Telstra BigPond (a large ISP by Australian standards, and my ISP) had its
mail server "go out" on Friday, and although it was back by the end of the
day my PDML supply was a mere trickle until Sunday (then, WHAM, almost 500
messages in one hit).  What I'm saying is that Ken might be assuming too
much of the blame upon himself (well, his ISP anyway).

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

2001-03-11 Thread Mike Johnston

Ralf wrote:

> I'm starting to wonder whether it can be a Limited lens. Another thing that
> makes me smell Limited here is that the 18mm is a classic K mount focal
> lenght. I own the K 18/3.5 so that nothing but a Limited would tempt me to buy
> a new 18mm. Anyway, 18mm is great focal lenght and its really nice that Pentax
> offers it again.


Would this argue _against_ it being a Limited?? I mean, so far, all the
Limiteds have been new and unique focal lengths, have they not? And from
what I hear, that was a deliberate part of the prospectus for the Limited
lenses--or is this not so?

--Mike

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Re: IS

2001-03-11 Thread Ralf Engelmann

Frits wrote:

> How does IS work? I have seen it done with video camera's where 
> it is done electronically, but how do you do it with a photo 
> camera?

It is done by adjusting a lens element with fast microdrives 
(tilting I think), which compensates for the change of the optical 
axis. This technique is also used in binoculars (e.g. Canon). It is 
even possible to move the lens element with a clever mechanics alone, 
but the precision effort is so high that this is not realized in 
photo lenses. A pure mechanical image stabilized Zeiss binocular 
exists (very expensive).

This reminds me that Pentax holds an old Patent about an autofocus 
shift lens. This lens uses an internal shift, means only one lens 
element is moved to create a shift effect for architecture work. Like 
many other Patents, this product never was marketed.

Ralf
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Re: New (reported) 18mm - smart move

2001-03-11 Thread Mark Roberts

On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:52:58 -0800, "Bill D. Casselberry"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Paul wrote:
>
>> ... I mean, is it really worth paying dearly for 
>> a 20 if you have a good 24?
>
>   Yes   :^)

Double yes!
(I have an A-20/2.8 and an FA*24/2.0 and I wouldn't part with
*either* of them.)
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IS

2001-03-11 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

How does IS work? I have seen it done with video camera's where it is done
electronically, but how do you do it with a photo camera?

Frits

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Re: fast 28mm shootoff--Vivitar Series 1 vs. Kiron (was My lens collection (was 24mm-K's))

2001-03-11 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Paul,
 It is a circular hood, thread on. I use it with a regular filter without
vignetting. I do have
two 28 1.9`s, I guess I like them.
  The 35mm .9 you refer to, I think you mean the f1.9? I don`t have that
one, and
would`nt mind hearing some feedback about it, if anyone has it.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Subject: Re: fast 28mm shootoff--Vivitar Series 1 vs. Kiron (was My lens
collection (was 24mm-K's))


> Steve,
> Thanks for sharing the word about a Vivitar 58mm wide-angle hood. I had no
> idea such a hood existed! I'll certainly keep my eyes peeled for one. Of
> course, if a find a second, you'll be the first to know.
>
> PS: Is it a circular hood, square, or rectangular? How is it attached? I
> hope it's threaded on; my slim filters won't accept threaded hoods.
>
> PPS: Do I understand that you own TWO Series 1 28/1.9s? One in K-mount,
the
> other in M42?
>
> Have you tried the Vivitar 35/.9? I see it listed all the time in M42 and
> non-Pentax bayonet mounts. I believe it was single-coated. That's all I
> know.
>
> "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found a "Vivitar WIDEANGLE  HOOD 58mm   Japan" (that`s what it says on
> the hood) that I got off ebay that I think is perfect for he 28mm Vivitar.
> I need to find another one since I have one in K mount and M42. I wonder
if
> Vivitar made a hood specifically for it?
>
> Paul Franklin Stregevsky
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> W: (703) 834-4648
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