Re: Peso: Winter Flora

[Don Williams]

What was your thinking behind using the converter? 
More working distance? This is a superb lens and 
I've said so on several occasions, but there has 
been no response. I presumed this was because 
there are not many of us using them. The Pentax 
100mm seems to be far more popular although not as 
good overall -- according to the tests I've seen.


Don


Powell Hargrave wrote:

http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Image10.htm
Sigma 50mm EX Macro plus the Pentax Rear Converter-A 2X-S.
Comments, critique encouraged.

The f stop reported to the camera is wrong with this combo.  Wide open it
tells me the 2.8 lens is a 1.4 and of course the combination is really 5.6.
The exposure is fine and when set to A the camera adjusts the diaphragm
properly.  Just the numbers are wrong.  Anyone know if this can be fixed?
Bit of an annoyance but not a real problem.

Powell





--
Dr E D F Williams
___
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http://www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/index.htm
See feature: The Cement Company from Hell
Updated: Print Gallery--   16 11 2005

Maybe I need a digi...

[David Mann]

I attended the national MTB downhill champs today.  My partner came  
along as well, and we stationed ourselves at a good site that offered  
three different routes for the competitors.  The fastest option was a  
spectacular jumping drop-off which required very large balls combined  
with a lot of skill due to the less-than-ideal runup.  The other  
options were both near-vertical drops that were only marginally  
rideable and much slower than taking the jump.


The first guy to attempt the jump landed OK but lost his balance in  
the soft dirt, sending him sliding straight into some spectators at a  
pretty decent speed.  My partner happened to be standing in that part  
of the crowd and she was knocked over, but no damage was done except  
for my near heart attack.  That one made the national news: the TV  
cameraman struck it lucky as he'd only just arrived.


The next guy to crash on that jump did so right in front of me and I  
was well-prepared with the 43mm lens.  I got one photo of him coming  
off, and when I pressed the button to take another frame nothing  
happened.  &#$%ing 24-exposure film.  Note to self: don't buy film  
from The Warehouse.  Or get a DSLR with a big memory card.


The "easiest" option for the bikers proved quite popular among the  
junior riders and there was one spectacular crash which I missed  
because I had the wrong lens fitted.  This was a little further away  
and needed the 100mm lens, and I had no way of knowing which route a  
rider would take.  Note to self: buy a zoom.  Swapping primes is  
annoying in this situation.


A photographer sitting next to me had a D2X and was machinegunning it  
whenever a rider showed up, then used the time between riders to  
edit.  It seemed like a nice piece of kit.  I admit to feeling a  
certain amount of gear-envy.


The dirt was very dry and quite loose, so every time a rider went  
past a cloud of dust would envelop me.  When someone landed the jump,  
it was more like a volcanic eruption :)  My camera bag is very dirty  
on the outside.  I don't want to know what the inside of my lenses  
look like, nor my Z-1p.  Or my lungs, for that matter.  I did have  
difficulty changing the metering mode at one stage.


Overall it was a very enjoyable couple of hours.  The riders had a  
very challenging time and there was some spectacularly good riding  
with no injuries apart from a few slightly broken bikes, mostly  
involving rear derailleurs.


The bad news is that I won't get to see my photos until I get the  
films processed... I might drop them off for 1-hour processing  
tomorrow.  I think that if I start doing more of this kind of  
photography, landscaping gear isn't going to cut it :)  Overall I  
don't think my photos will be that great, but I was happy just to be  
there.


Now I'm off to clean my gear... well, after dinner anyway.

- Dave

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Cesar]

E.R.N. Reed wrote:


James Fellows wrote:


Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump 
into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go 
based on

the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they 
will be

out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.
 

I hear a very nice, discreet, unobtrusive hamster-sneeze shutter sound 
on my Pentax *istD.
A Pentax DSLR seemed to me to be the way to go because of my lenses 
and flashes, too, and a year and a half later that still makes perfect 
sense to me.


ERNR


Eleanor,

I really got such a laugh from your response.  I recall thinking that 
when I first shot the MZ-S.


Shooting the LX regularly, everything seems to be more quiet.

Actually thinking of getting a screwmount Leica,

César
Panama City, Florida

Re: PDML invades my dreams

[P. J. Alling]

I don't think they make drugs strong enough...

Bob Sullivan wrote:


Mark, You ought to be taking something for that...   Bob S.

On 1/20/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


...or nightmares.
Last night I had a dream in which I was handed a Pentax camera and lens
combo that was so heavy I couldn't lift it. (And it was a DSLR, not a
67!)

The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.

Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream.
Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just a Bill
Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com


   




 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[David Mann]

On Jan 21, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 20/1/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:


A couple of years ago I filmed a Bond double (Sean Connery lookalike)


In fact:




Sorry Cotty, you got some guy in the way of that gorgeous Aston.   
Next time please stand a little further to the right :)


- Dave

Re: The Future of Film?

[P. J. Alling]

Godfrey, I love ya, but sometimes you rub people the wrong way.

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Can't understand a joke either, can you?

your opinionated snob,
G

On Jan 20, 2006, at 2:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

You're such an opinionated snob, I can't help but feel sorry for  
you, do you honestly think that we can't judge items based on our  
experience?  I've only been involved with photography for about 35  
years.  I've was exposed to platinum prints and looked into  
producing them myself about 30 years ago.  I've worked with a  
professional photographer who shot 4x5 film commercially, and I  
actually learned something.  I shoot digital mostly now because  it's 
convenient, not because it's the highest quality image I can  produce.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I shoot digital, and I shoot film, both 35mm and medium format.   
I  know how much detail I lose over 35mm when I shoot digital,  
just as  I know how much detail I lose shooting 35mm vs medium  
format.  If  he's happy with digital, (APS), converted to  
negatives then made  into platinum prints, that's fine for him.   I 
feel sorry for him.   If you can't tell the difference, I feel  
sorry for you.  Enough said.



You're just a sorry individual, I guess.








--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: OT: Capa Doc

[David Mann]

On Jan 21, 2006, at 1:56 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Our local educational channel, TVO showed Robert Capa in Love and War
last night.


I can only hope that it'll be shown here one day.

I read "Slightly Out Of Focus" a while back... his life certainly was  
very interesting.  As for his work, well that speaks for itself :)


- Dave

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[John Forbes]

James,

You've now heard from the two remaining doom-mongers who frequent this  
list.  A third has gone off in a rage, but we are fortunate that we can  
still enjoy Rob's photographic erudition, and Tom's incomparable puns.


Pentax is a company with several irons in the optical fire, which has  
enabled it to survive at a time when other camera manufacturers have had  
to call it a day.  At the same time, it is not a huge conglomerate like  
Canon, with unlimited financial resources, and it suffered a major blow  
when it was forced to abandon its first digital SLR, the MZ-D, because the  
Philips sensor proved to be a failure.


However, Pentax fought back with a camera, the *ist D, which (with its  
derivatives) compares extremely well with the competition, and has  
developed a new range of lenses designed for the commonly used APS-C sized  
sensor.  Several of these have won high praise, especially the 16-45mm  
zoom.


Contrary to what others have written, Pentax has a clear strategy which  
has been articulated by its management, and which is supported by a lens  
road-map which it published a year ago.  As a result, we know that this  
year Pentax will produce a sixth new "DA" (digital) lens, along with a  
digital 645 for the Medium Format market and a higher spec K-mount DSLR  
body.  The latter is the subject of great speculation concerning its  
pixel-count and other features.


Recently Pentax announced an agreement with Samsung, which is the world's  
fastest-growing large electronics company, that will enable them both to  
sell many more K-mount cameras and lenses in the future.  In the opinion  
of more optimistic souls than Tom & Rob, this virtually guarantees the  
future of the K mount.  Samsung is comparable in size to Canon and Sony,  
and is growing much faster than either.  Unlike the other two, which have  
become staid and complacent, Samsung is hungry, and has already, within  
three months of joining up with Pentax, produced a re-badged Pentax under  
its own name.


The whole camera industry is in a state of flux as cameras become just  
another form of computer input.  The mystique has gone, and it is almost  
inevitable (IMHO) that within the next five years all the old camera  
makers will either disappear or become divisions of major electronics  
companies.  And of the major players in that industry, based on past  
performance, Samsung seems likely to emerge as the dominant one.


Nobody can predict the future.  But it is pretty certain that K-mount  
cameras and lenses will continue in production, and that the range of  
K-mount camera bodies will increase substantially.


The future is bright for the K-mount.

John



On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:09:11 -, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



On 20 Jan 2006 at 16:06, James Fellows wrote:


Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump  
into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go  
based on

the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will  
be

out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.


Like otters have said there is nothing wrong with buying a Pentax DSLR  
right
now especially if you intend to employ older lenses however their future  
as a
DSLR camera company is far from certain. They are profitable at the  
moment
however they have just entered into a financial arrangement with a  
company that
could potentially swallow them up and no matter how positive you are you  
will
never see financial figures like those being produced by Canon at the  
moment.


So if you are looking at buying a very usable DSLR now then Pentax is a
relatively inexpensive option. If you are young and looking to pour  
money into

a kit that you definitely wish to be able to update and build on into the
future then you may have to consider pushing your purchase in another
direction.

http://www.canon.com/ir/annual/2004/p01.html
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/information/200505241.html


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998









--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: PDML invades my dreams

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 
Subject: PDML invades my dreams





The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.

Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream. 
Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just a Bill

Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.


Nor should you.

Bill Robb

Re: PDML invades my dreams

[Joseph Tainter]

...or nightmares.
Last night I had a dream in which I was handed a Pentax camera 
and lens
combo that was so heavy I couldn't lift it. (And it was a DSLR, 
not a

67!)

The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.

Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream.
Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just 
a Bill

Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.

--

Photographer's Anonymous. They have a 10-step program that I've 
heard produces great results. Start practicing: "Hi. I'm Mark. 
I'm a photographer."


Trouble is, it's not really curable. You can only hope to keep 
it bottled up.


Joe

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[David Savage]

I really enjoy "The Shat" in Boston Legal.

"Danny Crane!"...er Dave

On 1/21/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He was actually a fairly good actor, before Star Trek, that's what
> killed his career...

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Derby Chang]

Bryan Adams recently had a spread in Black+White. Technically 
accomplished, but a bit clinical, IMHO.



Paul Ewins wrote:

I saw an exhibition of Bryan Adams' portraits at the Canadian Embassy in
London. Seeing them en-masse it looked like he only had a couple of ideas
which were repeated often. At least the exhibition was free. 


Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia

-Original Message-
From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:54 AM

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

Bryan Adams.

Quite a good photographer actually.

Leonard Nimoy also had a couple albums, but I don't find his photography 
to be any better than his singing.


-Adam





  



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Rob Studdert]

On 20 Jan 2006 at 16:06, James Fellows wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
> the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
> the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
> financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
> out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Like otters have said there is nothing wrong with buying a Pentax DSLR right 
now especially if you intend to employ older lenses however their future as a 
DSLR camera company is far from certain. They are profitable at the moment 
however they have just entered into a financial arrangement with a company that 
could potentially swallow them up and no matter how positive you are you will 
never see financial figures like those being produced by Canon at the moment. 

So if you are looking at buying a very usable DSLR now then Pentax is a 
relatively inexpensive option. If you are young and looking to pour money into 
a kit that you definitely wish to be able to update and build on into the 
future then you may have to consider pushing your purchase in another 
direction.

http://www.canon.com/ir/annual/2004/p01.html
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/information/200505241.html


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Konica-Minolta

[Rob Studdert]

On 20 Jan 2006 at 19:14, John Forbes wrote:

> If you had ever worked for a public company, you would know that  
> "analysts" know less than nothing about the companies they write about and  
> advise on.
> 
> If you can, do.  If you can't, analyse.  If these people knew anything at  
> all, they wouldn't sell their advice to you and me. They'd be acting on it  
> on their own account, like Warren Buffet, and a few others who prefer to  
> remain less visible.
> 
> Analysts? Parasites, the lot of them.

I appreciate that we are all entitled to our opinions but I know for a fact 
that Herb sources analysts reports from some of the top Japanese securities 
companies. These businesses provide are very industry aware and house hoards of 
analysts with a very narrow range of industry focus and good historical 
knowledge they sound very unlike the "analysts" that you describe. Parasites 
they maybe but virtually every business but primary production is to one extent 
or another, as you know some parasites are useful too. :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: PDML invades my dreams

[Gonz]

Dude, you need to stop drinking that Iron City Light.  It'll kill ya.

rg


Mark Roberts wrote:
...or nightmares. 
Last night I had a dream in which I was handed a Pentax camera and lens

combo that was so heavy I couldn't lift it. (And it was a DSLR, not a
67!)

The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.

Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream. 
Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just a Bill

Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.
 
 

RE: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Tom C]

Hi James,

After I write what I'm about to write I'll probably get called Chicken 
Little and the sort.  I don't care... I'm a man and I can take it.


I have not been following the financial condition of Pentax per se...

I have a rather negative outlook based on the way Pentax has performed in 
releasing products to market.  As examples, they flopped and never produced 
the 1st DSLR they were going to make.  The *ist D was around 2 years later.  
Since then they have churned out a number of variant models, which for the 
most part was the *ist D with fewer features, albeit at a lower price.  At 
the same  time they were churning out meaningless variations of Optio P&S 
cameras.  The 645D medium format camera that has been talked about will 
probably have a hard time being competitive unless the price is competitive 
as well. Little has been done to assure it's customers that it plans to 
continue releasing competitive products in a timely manner.


I'm not saying the *ist D (x)'s are a bad camera or that Pentax will go 
belly up.  On the other hand they have not inspired a lot of confidence in 
me and mo one knows the future. I have no desire to buy digital lenses, and 
with this being said have little incentive to spend a few thousand dollars 
more on addtional non-digital lenses, when I'm lacking confidence in the 
brand itself.


I have no desire to liquidate my Pentax gear, but my next DSLR may not be a 
Pentax.


Tom C.





From: "James Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: 
Subject: Financal Condition of Pentax
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:06:14 -0500

Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based 
on

the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Jim
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming


> And me to.
>
> Dave
>
>> It's there for me as well ...
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Adam Maas
> >
> > > Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require
signing
> > > in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't 
log

> > > me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Far as I can tell, Pentax is holding their own for the present with  
no indication that they are considering dropping out of the DSLR market.


If you already have a fair investment in Pentax lenses and flash  
units, the additional cost of a DSLR body is not that enormous. The  
*ist DS2 and DL bodies doesn't cost that much in DSLR terms and are  
both good performers.


Godfrey

On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:06 PM, James Fellows wrote:

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to  
jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go  
based on

the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they  
will be

out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Re: The Future of Film?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Can't understand a joke either, can you?

your opinionated snob,
G

On Jan 20, 2006, at 2:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

You're such an opinionated snob, I can't help but feel sorry for  
you, do you honestly think that we can't judge items based on our  
experience?  I've only been involved with photography for about 35  
years.  I've was exposed to platinum prints and looked into  
producing them myself about 30 years ago.  I've worked with a  
professional photographer who shot 4x5 film commercially, and I  
actually learned something.  I shoot digital mostly now because  
it's convenient, not because it's the highest quality image I can  
produce.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I shoot digital, and I shoot film, both 35mm and medium format.   
I  know how much detail I lose over 35mm when I shoot digital,  
just as  I know how much detail I lose shooting 35mm vs medium  
format.  If  he's happy with digital, (APS), converted to  
negatives then made  into platinum prints, that's fine for him.   
I feel sorry for him.   If you can't tell the difference, I feel  
sorry for you.  Enough said.


You're just a sorry individual, I guess.

Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

[E.R.N. Reed]

Charles Robinson wrote:




On Jan 20, 2006, at 16:12, E.R.N. Reed wrote:

Other than he's not one of my in-laws nor is he famous for being a  
photographer, who the heck is Lou Reed?




Have you never heard the song "Walk on the Wild Side"?  (1972)



No.



Have you ever heard of a band called "The Velvet Underground"?


Heard the phrase. Didn't know it was a band.


(he's a musician)



Thanks!


ERNR

Re: PDML invades my dreams

[Bob Sullivan]

Mark, You ought to be taking something for that...   Bob S.

On 1/20/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...or nightmares.
> Last night I had a dream in which I was handed a Pentax camera and lens
> combo that was so heavy I couldn't lift it. (And it was a DSLR, not a
> 67!)
>
> The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.
>
> Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream.
> Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just a Bill
> Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.
>
>
> --
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
>
> --
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
>
>

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Bob Sullivan]

James,
 Same people who were saying two years ago that Pentax was doomed
because they lacked a digital SLR are the gloom and doom mavens of
today.  Buy an *ist digital and use it with your Pentax glass.  Bigger
and better digital stuff will come along every 6 to 18 months.  You
won't want to spend your money on it.  In 5 years, the *ist Ds really
will be obsolete and you can change brands them.  My bet is you will
replace it with a newer Pentax digital because the value is in the
brand.
 This market is still very fluid and you don't need to chase it. 
I get a big smile on my face when people here talk about puting their
screwmount Pentax lenses on their digitals.  It's still about the
glass...
Regards,  Bob S.

On 1/20/06, James Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
> the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
> the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
> financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
> out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.
>
> Jim
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming
>
>
> > And me to.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >> It's there for me as well ...
> > >
> > > Shel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Adam Maas
> > >
> > > > Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require
> signing
> > > > in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log
> > > > me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[E.R.N. Reed]

Jens Bladt wrote:


Nothing wrong with the *ist D shutter sound. Sounds great to me.
The "hamster sneeze" sound is a property of the MZ-S.


I happen to like the sound, too.
But I thought "hamster sneeze" term sounded quite descriptive of the 
nice quiet shutters on the ZX-5n and *istD, as well as the MZ-S. (Though 
I only got to play with an MZ-S once.)

Re: OT: Capa Doc

[David Savage]

I saw it for the second time a couple of months ago. It's a very
interesting story of a man who pushed his luck one time too many.

TV programmers must read from the same playbook the world over. When I
saw it last it started at 11pm on a Sunday.

Dave


On 1/20/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Our local educational channel, TVO showed Robert Capa in Love and War
> last night.  Terrific documentary.  I just wish they wouldn't have put
> it on at 10pm;  I'm freaking tired this morning (but it was worth it).
>
> Some exciting highlights:
>
> 1)  Seeing lots of photos of him, I was reminded that he has a
> "unibrow" (ie:  his thick eyebrows actually join in the middle to form
> one large eyebrow, just like Frida Kahlo).  People who've met me or
> seen photos of me will understand my excitement .
>
> 2)  Several clips were shown of God, er, HCB.  I'd never actually
> heard him speak before.  It was a religious experience for me.
>
> 3)  After the WWII, Capa lived for a short period in Los Angeles, and
> had a brief fling with  Ingrid Bergman.  Some of you may know
> that IMHO, after Audrey Hepburn, Ingrid Bergman is the most beautiful
> woman in the history of the world, full stop.  I was not aware of this
> affair until last night.  As an added bonus, the beautiful Isabella
> Rossolini was interviewed in the doc.
>
> 4)  I know it was mentioned here before (perhaps by Shel?) that the
> Jimmy Stewart character in Rear Window was sort of based loosely on
> Capa, and was Hitchcock's sly reference to this affair.
>
> Lots of other juicy tidbits, and overall, the doc was very well done.
> I highly recommend it.
>
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
>

HCB Documentary

[Mark Roberts]

Henri Cartier-Bresson: The Impassioned Eye

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/44308
http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/articles/2006/01/13/documentary_on_photojournalism_icon_lacks_context/
http://www.nymetro.com/movies/listings/rv_46851.htm

More:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&tab=wn&q=henri+cartier+bresson+impassioned+eye
 
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Paul Ewins]

I saw an exhibition of Bryan Adams' portraits at the Canadian Embassy in
London. Seeing them en-masse it looked like he only had a couple of ideas
which were repeated often. At least the exhibition was free. 

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia

-Original Message-
From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:54 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

Bryan Adams.

Quite a good photographer actually.

Leonard Nimoy also had a couple albums, but I don't find his photography 
to be any better than his singing.

-Adam

RE: FS Friday: Almaz 103, Soviet K-mount F2 copy

[Paul Ewins]

Thanks for the extra information Bob, that was way more than I could find
with Google. I'm glad I didn't try the self-timer out! There is no sign that
the leatherette has been removed so I guess it was owned by somebody who was
careful (or never used self-timers).

So maybe I should be calling it a Minolta XK copy with a prism that looks
like an F2 and a bayonet mount that looks like a K-mount!!! I've done a
quick test with an M85/2 and K50/1.2 and both mounted and dismounted fine. I
suspect the LOMO lenses have a slightly thicker flange, as I also tried a
Tokina Zoom and that was a little loose. I haven't tried any AF lenses.

I've had a more careful look at the body and found a couple of signs of
touchups so I'll drop the price to $US160 - that'll teach me to try and
assess condition under artificial light.

Paul 

Re:

[Rob Studdert]

On 20 Jan 2006 at 16:04, Adam Maas wrote:

> Drool
> 
> Man, I want. Oh, I want.

I love this one:

http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/86548165/in/pool-tuawrigs/

You really do have to wonder how some people can be productive with some of the 
set-ups there, each to their own I guess.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: PDML invades my dreams

[Juan Buhler]

I once dreamed I was Philip-Lorca diCorcia. No really, I did. I don't
specially care for his photography (I think it's great, but he's not
in my top ten list.)

Now the question for Mark is: Was Bill the one who handed you the
camera? Could *he* lift it?

:)

j

On 1/20/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 20 Jan 2006 at 18:39, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> > ...or nightmares.
> > Last night I had a dream in which I was handed a Pentax camera and lens
> > combo that was so heavy I couldn't lift it. (And it was a DSLR, not a
> > 67!)
> >
> > The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.
> >
> > Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream.
> > Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just a Bill
> > Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.
>
> I know I've had photo edit dreams but that's downright scary, especially that
> part about Bill which you obviously cared not to elaborate :-)
>
>
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
>
>


--
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com

Re: PDML invades my dreams

[Rob Studdert]

On 20 Jan 2006 at 18:39, Mark Roberts wrote:

> ...or nightmares. 
> Last night I had a dream in which I was handed a Pentax camera and lens
> combo that was so heavy I couldn't lift it. (And it was a DSLR, not a
> 67!)
> 
> The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.
> 
> Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream. 
> Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just a Bill
> Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.

I know I've had photo edit dreams but that's downright scary, especially that 
part about Bill which you obviously cared not to elaborate :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 20/1/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>A couple of years ago I filmed a Bond double (Sean Connery lookalike)
>
>In fact:
>
>

So he's a "double agent" then?
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

PDML invades my dreams

[Mark Roberts]

...or nightmares. 
Last night I had a dream in which I was handed a Pentax camera and lens
combo that was so heavy I couldn't lift it. (And it was a DSLR, not a
67!)

The possible interpretations of this are varied and worrying.

Also - I swear this is true - Bill Robb was in the dream. 
Now Freud was known to have said "sometimes a Bill Robb is just a Bill
Robb" but frankly I don't find this comforting at all.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

[Mark Roberts]

Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As a clue, I'll tell you it wasn't The Ramones and  
>the Sex Pistols who started it - not by a long shot.

I've generally seen it attributed to the New York Dolls, but I expect it
was something of a movement even before them.

Trivia: Johnny Thunders of the New York Dolls made his last recordings
at my friend Tony Gross' recording studio in upstate New York with a
band called the Chesterfield Kings. They never finished the project
completely because Tony threw Johnny Thunders out after he caught him
shooting up heroin in the studio bathroom. Johnny OD'd only a couple of
weeks after that. The one song he did finish never got officially
released, for legal reasons. But I have a few copies on CD ;-)
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Archiving DVDs followup

[Rob Studdert]

On 19 Jan 2006 at 14:57, David Mann wrote:

> After searching out the local market and chasing a couple of dead  
> ends, I eventually found a good supply of TDK which seems to be a  
> very reputable brand of DVDs.  I originally wanted Verbatim DataLife  
> Plus discs but I could only find them as singles with full-sized  
> jewel cases at quite a high price.  The TDK ones I bought come in a  
> 10-pack with slim jewel cases which is exactly what I wanted.

I buy my DVD-R media in stacks of 50 and I found that K-mart have inexpensive 
packs of thin Jewel cases, this pair are less costly than the media with cases. 
I've been pretty pleased with the Imation media to date though the other day I 
did some destructive testing on various brands of DVD media after hearing that 
a friends child managed to cause a DVD to split in two. I found that some 
appear to delaminiate more readily than others, my Imation discs were at the 
bottom of the pack in this regard though I'm not concerned as they'll never be 
subjected to the abuse that I metered out during the "test" :-)

> For storage I have purchased two appropriately-sized food containers  
> which have an excellent airtight seal right around the lid.  I plan  
> to burn two copies of each disc and place one copy in each  
> container.  One container will stay in the house, and the other in  
> the (detached) garage.  The second one may end up in a relative's  
> house as it's probably still possible for a fire to jump across the  
> house/garage gap.  Both containers will also contain a packet of  
> silica gel to ensure a dry environment.  I just have to hope that the  
> plastic doesn't leach nasty chemicals, and that it's impermeable to  
> water vapour.

I expect that a lot of the newer food safe plastics are quite inert in normal 
storage circumstances, especially the products that are designed for both 
freezer and microwave use. See 
http://www.target.com.au/html/decor_microsafe/decor_microsafe.htm

> I hope I don't sound too paranoid, but once I've archived my files  
> they'll eventually be deleted from my hard drive to reclaim space.  I  
> do plan to eventually buy a really big hdd but that's not feasible  
> right now... and these files don't need to be instantly accessible.

It's a pity that you need to work this way but I don't see why you'd have any 
problems (barring a local natural disaster) especially if you keep one set of 
discs completely off-site.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[P. J. Alling]

Now, but he was 65 in 1995.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


No, he's 75 ... or will be in about two months.

Shel



 


[Original Message]
From: P. J. Alling 
   



 


He's 65 for God's sake, maybe he decided to retire?

Adam Maas wrote:

   


Bob Shell wrote:

 


On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

   


His career is dead?

 

His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  
his photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was 
away  somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.
   

Really? According to IMDB, he hasn't directed anything since 1995. The 
only listings for him after then is voice acting/narrating stuff and 
various fan related appearances, well and a couple really low-budget 
bits. Of course they don't cover commercials, but any real film work 
should be in there.


 


He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  
I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
Poker

with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 

 

I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  
it was to bitch slap her.


Bob
   


-Adam


 


--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).
   





 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

[P. J. Alling]

More of a song writer/poet...

Charles Robinson wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 16:12, E.R.N. Reed wrote:

Other than he's not one of my in-laws nor is he famous for being a  
photographer, who the heck is Lou Reed?




Have you never heard the song "Walk on the Wild Side"?  (1972)

Have you ever heard of a band called "The Velvet Underground"?

(he's a musician)

 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[P. J. Alling]

Na, Mission Imposible simply buried it.

Bob Shell wrote:



On Jan 20, 2006, at 5:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

He was actually a fairly good actor, before Star Trek, that's what  
killed his career...



Mission Impossible.

Bob





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Konica-Minolta

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless"

Subject: Re: Konica-Minolta



Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
there than here, I suppose.


He had a huge investment in Pentax glass and felt they should be offering a 
camera that was competitive with something other than the bottom feeding 
cameras that the other manufacturers are producing.
Personally, I agree with him, but this has been a problem with Pentax for 
more than 20 years.

I've mellowed out on the subject.

William Robb 

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Shel Belinkoff]

No, he's 75 ... or will be in about two months.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: P. J. Alling 

> He's 65 for God's sake, maybe he decided to retire?
>
> Adam Maas wrote:
>
> > Bob Shell wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>
> >>> His career is dead?
> >>>
> >>
> >> His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  
> >> his photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was 
> >> away  somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.
> >
> >
> > Really? According to IMDB, he hasn't directed anything since 1995. The 
> > only listings for him after then is voice acting/narrating stuff and 
> > various fan related appearances, well and a couple really low-budget 
> > bits. Of course they don't cover commercials, but any real film work 
> > should be in there.
> >
> >>
> >>> He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
> >>> producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  
> >>> I've
> >>> seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
> >>> Poker
> >>> with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  
> >> it was to bitch slap her.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> >
>
>
> -- 
> When you're worried or in doubt, 
>   Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[P. J. Alling]

He's 65 for God's sake, maybe he decided to retire?

Adam Maas wrote:


Bob Shell wrote:



On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


His career is dead?



His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  
his photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was 
away  somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.



Really? According to IMDB, he hasn't directed anything since 1995. The 
only listings for him after then is voice acting/narrating stuff and 
various fan related appearances, well and a couple really low-budget 
bits. Of course they don't cover commercials, but any real film work 
should be in there.





He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  
I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
Poker

with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 



I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  
it was to bitch slap her.


Bob



-Adam





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[P. J. Alling]

Pentax made money the last couple of years.  If you want to keep your 
lenses and flash and not cost yourself a whole ton of money they are the 
only way to go.  If on the other hand you want the highest specified 
current equipment you'll have to look elsewhere.  (Pentax has just 
entered a joint deal with Samsung so you can buy a Samsung branded 
Pentax DSL:R, real soon now).


James Fellows wrote:


Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Jim
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming


 


And me to.

Dave

  > It's there for me as well ...
   


Shel



 


[Original Message]
From: Adam Maas
   


Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require
   


signing
 


in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log
me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.
   

 





   





 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

[Charles Robinson]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 16:12, E.R.N. Reed wrote:

Other than he's not one of my in-laws nor is he famous for being a  
photographer, who the heck is Lou Reed?




Have you never heard the song "Walk on the Wild Side"?  (1972)

Have you ever heard of a band called "The Velvet Underground"?

(he's a musician)

 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org

Re: The Future of Film?

[P. J. Alling]

You're such an opinionated snob, I can't help but feel sorry for you, do 
you honestly think that we can't judge items based on our experience?  
I've only been involved with photography for about 35 years.  I've was 
exposed to platinum prints and looked into producing them myself about 
30 years ago.  I've worked with a professional photographer who shot 4x5 
film commercially, and I actually learned something.  I shoot digital 
mostly now because it's convenient, not because it's the highest quality 
image I can produce.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I shoot digital, and I shoot film, both 35mm and medium format.  I  
know how much detail I lose over 35mm when I shoot digital, just as  
I know how much detail I lose shooting 35mm vs medium format.  If  
he's happy with digital, (APS), converted to negatives then made  
into platinum prints, that's fine for him.  I feel sorry for him.   
If you can't tell the difference, I feel sorry for you.  Enough said.



You're just a sorry individual, I guess.

G





--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Bob Shell]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 5:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

He was actually a fairly good actor, before Star Trek, that's what  
killed his career...


Mission Impossible.

Bob

RE: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Jens Bladt]

Nothing wrong with the *ist D shutter sound. Sounds great to me.
The "hamster sneeze" sound is a property of the MZ-S.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 20. januar 2006 23:09
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Financal Condition of Pentax


James Fellows wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
>the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based
on
>the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
>financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
>out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.
>
>
I hear a very nice, discreet, unobtrusive hamster-sneeze shutter sound
on my Pentax *istD.
A Pentax DSLR seemed to me to be the way to go because of my lenses and
flashes, too, and a year and a half later that still makes perfect sense
to me.

ERNR

RE: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Jens Bladt]

Hello Jim
I'm not a Financial expert - in fact I know nothing about it.
But as far as I can tell, Pentax doesn't show signs of getting out of the
market. The fact, that Pentax has released 4 DSLRs during the last three
years sounds promising to me, taken into consideration that there was often
several years between new analogue models in the past. The recently
announced cooperation with Samsung also makes promises for the future - they
may get help developing/producing the electronic stuff, including maybe
sensors to replace the current ones from SONY. Pentax can then concentrate
on what they are good at: User-friendly design and user interface as well as
excellent glass. If this is a correct "assessment" I believe it looks pretty
promising.
Regards
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: James Fellows [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 20. januar 2006 22:06
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Financal Condition of Pentax


Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Jim
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming


> And me to.
>
> Dave
>
>> It's there for me as well ...
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Adam Maas
> >
> > > Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require
signing
> > > in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log
> > > me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[P. J. Alling]

He was actually a fairly good actor, before Star Trek, that's what 
killed his career...


frank theriault wrote:


On 1/20/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


In fact, what he is, is a "professional celebrity".  He's got not
discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or "was" - he's
dead, no?).
   



Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?

I guess I must have been thinking of his career...

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[P. J. Alling]

he's dead, no?).




Not according to Dead or Alive

http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/nnames-nf/Nimoy+Leonard

frank theriault wrote:


On 1/20/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)

   



I think you've hit the nail on the head, Cotty (did I actually say
that Cotty made a salient point? )

In fact, what he is, is a "professional celebrity".  He's got not
discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or "was" - he's
dead, no?).

Kind of reminds me of Zsa-Zsa Gabor.  I could never figure out what
she did to be famous.  A couple of really bad B movies?  Married a
celebrity or four?  Is that enough to make her famous?  Well, maybe,
but the fact is she became a professional celebrity.  Game shows, talk
shows, in the tabloids;  not for talent or accomplishments, just for
~who~ she is.

I think guys like Nimoy, while not as extreme as Zsa-Zsa, come close
to that category.  I mean, riding on the coat-tails of a mediocre 40
year old sci-fi tv show that lasted, what, a 3 seasons?  

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Konica-Minolta

[Rob Studdert]

On 20 Jan 2006 at 0:00, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Wonder why we haven't seen his Pentax gear for sale?

He is still using his Pentax kit, plus he's probably spent more money with 
Pentax than most people here.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

[E.R.N. Reed]

Other than he's not one of my in-laws nor is he famous for being a 
photographer, who the heck is Lou Reed?

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[E.R.N. Reed]

Adam Maas wrote:


Bob Shell wrote:



On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


His career is dead?



His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  
his photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was 
away  somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.



Really? According to IMDB, he hasn't directed anything since 1995. The 
only listings for him after then is voice acting/narrating stuff and 
various fan related appearances, well and a couple really low-budget 
bits. Of course they don't cover commercials, but any real film work 
should be in there. 


Perhaps he's enjoying well-earned semi-retirement -- on purpose?

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[E.R.N. Reed]

James Fellows wrote:


Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.
 

I hear a very nice, discreet, unobtrusive hamster-sneeze shutter sound 
on my Pentax *istD.
A Pentax DSLR seemed to me to be the way to go because of my lenses and 
flashes, too, and a year and a half later that still makes perfect sense 
to me.


ERNR

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Shel Belinkoff]

That's pretty clever.  Considering that starting out in acting doesn't
guarantee much income, it was pretty shrewd of him to find a way to get a
few extra bucks.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Bob Shell 

> Reminds me of a Shatner story.  An old friend of mine (Art Evans,  
> author of books about Rollei) is a retired Paramount producer who  
> knew Shatner back in the early days of his career.  He told me that  
> Shatner would insist that the studio buy him first class air tickets  
> wherever he went.  He would then go to the airport and cash in the  
> tickets, buy coach seats, and pocket the difference.

Re: Pixel Cramming

[E.R.N. Reed]

Cotty wrote:


So, you're a very nice twat.



Paging Mark ...

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Shel Belinkoff]

He's published a few volumes of poetry as well, although I've not read any,
and can't comment on the quality.  But, regardless, he's a busy guy, and
most of us would be very happy to have such a dead career or careers!),
more so at his age.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Bob Shell 

> His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  
> his photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was away  
> somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.
>
> > He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
> > producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  
> > I've
> > seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
> > Poker
> > with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 
> >
>
> I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  
> it was to bitch slap her.
>
> Bob

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Cotty]

On 20/1/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A couple of years ago I filmed a Bond double (Sean Connery lookalike)

In fact:






Cheers,
  Cotty


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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
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Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Cotty]

On 20/1/06, James Fellows, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
>the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
>the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
>financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
>out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

This is not true. Pentax is in profit and in bed with Samsung. This is
seen as a Good Thing (TM). However, I wold not know as I am in bed with
the devil.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Shel Belinkoff]

I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's ~acting~ any day 

I recently saw him in an early performance - a 1963-65 episode of Naked
City.  He  talkedthesame ... as ... in ... StartTreck.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: John Francis 

> I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's any day!

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Cotty]

On 20/1/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Reminds me of a Shatner story.  An old friend of mine (Art Evans,  
>author of books about Rollei) is a retired Paramount producer who  
>knew Shatner back in the early days of his career.  He told me that  
>Shatner would insist that the studio buy him first class air tickets  
>wherever he went.  He would then go to the airport and cash in the  
>tickets, buy coach seats, and pocket the difference.

Time for a funny story from me.

A couple of years ago I filmed a Bond double (Sean Connery lookalike)
and he worked closely with Connery through most of the 007 films. He
told me that Connery became such a big star that he overshadowed most
directors, and as hapless candidates were dragged in to get on with it,
scenarios like this soon emerged:

Connery:  So what are my scenes today?

Would-be de Mille: Well Sean, this morning we have two scenes with you -
the fight in the factory and the shots of you stealing the car, and this
afternoon we have four scenes, mostly the ones of you in the undergrowth
watching Blofeld and then in his swimming pool and -

Connery: Ahh - Actually, I'll tell you what, we'll do all my scenes this
morning my dear fellow.

Would-be: - er, yes, I suppose we could do that

Connery: Excellent.


That afternoon, Mr Connery would be at the nearest golf club until tea time.

True!



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Christian]

E.R.N. Reed wrote:

frank theriault wrote:



Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?


Bones or Scotty. They're both dead.


Cotty's dead!  oh... e oops. :-)

--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net

Re: Pentax lens rebates

[P. J. Alling]

They seem to do a lot better online.

wendy beard wrote:


On 1/20/06, Mark Stringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


I would submit it on your form.  I think rebates are handled by "rebate
handling companies", experts in scanning for deficiencies.  If you are in
compliance with the form you submit, I don't think you will be denied,
assuming you meet all the other criteria.

   



Ha ha ha ha ha.

Try telling that to Staples.
I submitted a claim to them in September for a rebate on a Sandisk SD
card. They are still refusing to pay up despite me submitting the
correct documents and re-faxing all the details twice.


--
Wendy Beard
Ottawa
Canada


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Adam Maas]

Bob Shell wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


His career is dead?



His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  his 
photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was away  
somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.


Really? According to IMDB, he hasn't directed anything since 1995. The 
only listings for him after then is voice acting/narrating stuff and 
various fan related appearances, well and a couple really low-budget 
bits. Of course they don't cover commercials, but any real film work 
should be in there.





He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
Poker

with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 



I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  it 
was to bitch slap her.


Bob


-Adam

Re: Konica-Minolta

[P. J. Alling]

Probably went straight to e-bay...

Kenneth Waller wrote:


Wonder why we haven't seen his Pentax gear for sale?

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
 


From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   



 


Subject: Re: Konica-Minolta

Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
there than here, I suppose.

On 1/20/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   


- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"


 


so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up "some time real soon"?
   


Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.

William Robb


 


--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman

   





PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com


 




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When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Cotty]

On 20/1/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?

James Doohan (Scotty) and DeForest Kelly (McCoy).




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Cotty]

On 20/1/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>In fact, what he is, is a "professional celebrity".  He's got not
>discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or "was" - he's
>dead, no?).

Illogical.

No.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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FS Friday--Lenses

[Mark Erickson]

Here we go--some nice Pentax lenses that should see more than the bottom of
my camera bag:

SMC-A 28mm F2.8:   $100 Purchased Exc+ from KEH Feb 2005,
used a little.  Comes with caps.

SMC-A 24-50mm F4:  $175 Purchased from eBay, used 
very little.  Comes with caps
and Pentax-brand rubber hood.

SMC-FA* 28-70mm F2.8:  $1000Purchased new, used some, but
still very clean.  Comes with
caps, hood, and original box.

SMC-FA 135mm F2.8: $250 Purchased Exc from KEH fall 2005
used a little.  Comes with caps.

Final price: above + actual shipping USPS Priority Mail and insurance
specified by the purchased.  Want a lens but think the price is too high?
Make me an offer.

Thanks,

Mark

Re: Pixel Cramming

[P. J. Alling]

Film gates on 35mm aren't always accurate either.  "APS-C" sensors are 
at least close to 2:3 ratio or 16.7x24.1mm, the Canon 20 uses a ~2:3 
ratio sensor with a ~1.3x crop factor  APS-H is 30.2x16.7mm or ~16:9 
which is not even close.


Adam Maas wrote:

And 1.5x or 1.6x crop sensors aren't even really APS-C. It's a 
convenient shorthand that most people use to define the common sensor 
sizes. You're picking nits.


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

The Canon D doesn't have and APS-H size sensor.  The aspect ratio is 
the same as APS-C or 35mm.  APS-H is a wider view horizontally.


Adam Maas wrote:


John Forbes wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:43:17 -, Christian 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:



Adam Maas wrote:


Nikon is doing 12.4MP in APS-C, that's the sensor in the D2x.
 -Adam






Sorry, I always forget about that one.  And it is supposed to 
have  really good noise properties too.






It seems to me that there is no good reason why Samsung, or anybody 
else,  can't produce a sensor which is half-way in size between 
APS-C and 35mm  (24x36).  This would be about 50% bigger than APS-C 
but would still, I  think, allow all Pentax DA lenses to be used 
without vignetting.  Crop  factor would be around 1.3.


If Nikon can squeeze excellent results out of an APS-C sensor with 
12.4  Mpixels, a 50% bigger sensor should be able to manage
around 18 mpixels, and will make the new 12-24mm zoom equivalent 
to  16-31mm on 35mm, which is pretty good.


It would still be considerably cheaper to make than a full-frame 
sensor.


That's what I would be aiming to do if I were running 
Pentax/Samsung.  But  of course, I'm not.


JOhn




APS-H, a la Canon 1D and Kodak DCS760.

But there is a major disadvantage. Wide angle lenses lose their 
wide, and you can't use any of the 'digital wides' except the 
generally poor performing Sigma 12-24 because of coverage problems 
as they don't cover APS-H at the wide end. The 1.3x crop size also 
is more susceptible to poor edge performance that is avoided with 
the APS-C cameras and plagues full-frame (Consumer lenses are 
generally unusable on Full Frame cameras because of how apparent 
their weaknesses become).


-Adam











--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Bob Shell]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:23 PM, John Francis wrote:



I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's any day!



Reminds me of a Shatner story.  An old friend of mine (Art Evans,  
author of books about Rollei) is a retired Paramount producer who  
knew Shatner back in the early days of his career.  He told me that  
Shatner would insist that the studio buy him first class air tickets  
wherever he went.  He would then go to the airport and cash in the  
tickets, buy coach seats, and pocket the difference.


Bob

Re: PESO - White forest

[Dave Kennedy]

Wow. Love it. Great Job.

dk

On 1/14/06, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have lost contact with the list several times the last weeks, so I
> ´ll combine a test with a PESO.
>
> This was what the woods close to Oslo looked like last week.
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=213843
>
> Now all the snow is gone :-(
>
> DagT
>
> PS: Thanks to Tim for commenting in Norwegian and suggesting the grey
> background
>
>

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Bob Shell]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:23 PM, John Francis wrote:



I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's any day!



For sure!  Or his acting.

Bob

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Bob Shell]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


His career is dead?



His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  
his photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was away  
somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.



He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  
I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
Poker

with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 



I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  
it was to bitch slap her.


Bob

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[John Francis]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:34:39PM +, Cotty wrote:
> On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >He's an actor, not a "celebrity"
> 
> I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)

I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's any day!

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[mike wilson]

Cotty wrote:



On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



He's an actor, not a "celebrity"



I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)



Celebrities have nothing but their celebrity.

Re: PESO - a couple of images

[Bruce Dayton]

For me, neither image is very engaging.  The sky is nicely exposed,
but only seeing a sillouhette of the birds is just so so.  The sky
isn't that amazing to allow the sillouhete to enhance it and the birds
by themselves just don't cut it.

--  Bruce


Friday, January 20, 2006, 10:42:25 AM, you wrote:

BL> Hi!

BL> It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd...
BL> The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...

BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513

BL> Boris

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[frank theriault]

On 1/20/06, James Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
> the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
> the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
> financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
> out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

You could always ask Herb Chong ...

-frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

[Adam Maas]

Rough shape? They made a profit last year.

Only issue they had was sales of P&S digitals were down, but that goes 
for everybody in that market, it's hit saturation.


-Adam



James Fellows wrote:

Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Jim
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming




And me to.

Dave

  > It's there for me as well ...


Shel





[Original Message]
From: Adam Maas



Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require


signing


in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log
me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.

Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

[mike wilson]

Charles Robinson wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 11:40, Bob Shell wrote:



If the interview ever looks like it will happen again I'll read  that 
first!!




(Maybe you should read it afterwards - wouldn't want to scare you off  
of doing the interview!)


(Slight recommendation for that book if you wonder where "punk"  
REALLY started.  As a clue, I'll tell you it wasn't The Ramones  and 
the Sex Pistols who started it - not by a long shot.  Not a  great 
book, but kind of interesting if you ever listened to any of  the 
music referenced in there)


Granted, we all grow and change (and many of us even mature as we  do 
it) so who knows what he's like these days?  But wow.



For people interested in rock/pop history, I recommend Lollipop  
Lounge by Genya Ravan.  Genya was the singer fronting Ten Wheel  Drive 
and one of Mick Jagger's girlfriends.  She was right in the  middle of 
things in those formative days.  And she writes well, too  (unless it 
was ghosted).




The book I mentioned was written by someone called Legs McNeil - how  
could you resist a book by someone with a name like that?  :-)


Two other authors that I have never read but their name incites me to: 
Studs Turkel and Julius Axelrod.

Re:

[Adam Maas]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I wonder if my ibook will morf into this one day.

http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/

Looks like this guy enjoyed being assimilated by the collective.:-) or is this 
the 21st
Century skitzoid 
man.


Dave

BTW link works.:-)  




Drool

Man, I want. Oh, I want.

-Adam

Financal Condition of Pentax

[James Fellows]

Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Jim
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming


> And me to.
>
> Dave
>
>> It's there for me as well ...
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Adam Maas
> >
> > > Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require
signing
> > > in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log
> > > me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Re: too much ...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I wonder if my ibook will morf into this one day.
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/


Only with lots of fertilizer (call it cash... ;-)

Godfrey

[no subject]

[brooksdj]

I wonder if my ibook will morf into this one day.

http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/

Looks like this guy enjoyed being assimilated by the collective.:-) or is this 
the 21st
Century skitzoid 
man.

Dave

BTW link works.:-)  

Re: The Future of Film?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I shoot digital, and I shoot film, both 35mm and medium format.  I  
know how much detail I lose over 35mm when I shoot digital, just as  
I know how much detail I lose shooting 35mm vs medium format.  If  
he's happy with digital, (APS), converted to negatives then made  
into platinum prints, that's fine for him.  I feel sorry for him.   
If you can't tell the difference, I feel sorry for you.  Enough said.


You're just a sorry individual, I guess.

G

Re: Pixel Cramming

[brooksdj]

And me to.

Dave  

> It's there for me as well ...
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Adam Maas 
> 
> > Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require signing 
> > in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log 
> > me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.
> 
> 

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[E.R.N. Reed]

frank theriault wrote:


On 1/20/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


In fact, what he is, is a "professional celebrity".  He's got not
discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or "was" - he's
dead, no?).
   



Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?


Bones or Scotty. They're both dead.

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Shel Belinkoff]

His career is dead?

He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity Poker
with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault 

> Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?
>
> I guess I must have been thinking of his career...

Re: Pixel Cramming

[Shel Belinkoff]

It's there for me as well ...

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Adam Maas 

> Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require signing 
> in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log 
> me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.

Re: The Future of Film?

[P. J. Alling]

I shoot digital, and I shoot film, both 35mm and medium format.  I know 
how much detail I lose over 35mm when I shoot digital, just as I know 
how much detail I lose shooting 35mm vs medium format.  If he's happy 
with digital, (APS), converted to negatives then made into platinum 
prints, that's fine for him.  I feel sorry for him.  If you can't tell 
the difference, I feel sorry for you.  Enough said.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I have seen cyanotype and platinum/paladium prints, they're even  
better if the source image is exceptional, such as an 4x5 or 8x10  
plate.



This gentleman's source material was exceptional. All of it, whether  
film or digital negative from other sources. He explicitly showed  
originals, negatives and positives, in demonstrating the process.


How is it that you can debate with such assurance against the quality  
of something that you haven't even seen and therefore have no ability  
to judge with any credibility?


Godfrey






--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[frank theriault]

On 1/20/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In fact, what he is, is a "professional celebrity".  He's got not
> discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or "was" - he's
> dead, no?).

Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?

I guess I must have been thinking of his career...

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Adam Maas]

Lasse Karlsson wrote:

From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)



On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


He's an actor, not a "celebrity"



I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a 
celebrity? ;-)



Does he look like Marilyn Monroe?

Show behaviour similar to that of Paris Hilton?

Does he attract the attention of papparazzi lenses?

In brief - does he sell?

:-)

Lasse


Cheers,
 Cotty


He was on Star Trek. His career is entirely based on that fact (Depsite 
having done some other stuff) Ergo he's a celebrity, not an actor.


-Adam

Re: Pixel Cramming

[Adam Maas]

Cotty wrote:

On 20/1/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:






You don't need to join to see that shot.  Just look at the damned shot 
instead of whinging about my choice of photo hosts.


Here's the direct link to the JPEG.

http://static.flickr.com/40/85917538_35f5c4770f_b.jpg



Er, the link you gave me earlier demanded a sign up. But you ignored
that because you are obviously a twat.

I did see the pic using the latest link. Very nice.

So, you're a very nice twat.




Cheers,
  Cotty





Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require signing 
in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log 
me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.


-Adam

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[frank theriault]

On 1/20/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)
>

I think you've hit the nail on the head, Cotty (did I actually say
that Cotty made a salient point? )

In fact, what he is, is a "professional celebrity".  He's got not
discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or "was" - he's
dead, no?).

Kind of reminds me of Zsa-Zsa Gabor.  I could never figure out what
she did to be famous.  A couple of really bad B movies?  Married a
celebrity or four?  Is that enough to make her famous?  Well, maybe,
but the fact is she became a professional celebrity.  Game shows, talk
shows, in the tabloids;  not for talent or accomplishments, just for
~who~ she is.

I think guys like Nimoy, while not as extreme as Zsa-Zsa, come close
to that category.  I mean, riding on the coat-tails of a mediocre 40
year old sci-fi tv show that lasted, what, a 3 seasons?  

cheers,
frank

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RE: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Malcolm Smith]

Cotty wrote:

> >He's an actor, not a "celebrity"
> 
> I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a 
> celebrity?  ;-)

A logical question.

Malcolm

Re: PESO - a couple of images

[brooksdj]

Very nice.
Lovely blues on my monitor.

No not Buddy Guy.LOL

Dave  

> Hi!
> 
> It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
> The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...
> 
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
> 
> Boris
> 
> 

Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)



On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


He's an actor, not a "celebrity"


I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity? 
;-)


Does he look like Marilyn Monroe?

Show behaviour similar to that of Paris Hilton?

Does he attract the attention of papparazzi lenses?

In brief - does he sell?

:-)

Lasse

Cheers,
 Cotty

Re: Pixel Cramming

[Cotty]

On 20/1/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

>>>http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=85917538&size=l
>>>
>>>
>>
>>It's asking me to join FuckR and there is more chance of me dining with
>Elvis.
>>  
>>
>
>You don't need to join to see that shot.  Just look at the damned shot 
>instead of whinging about my choice of photo hosts.
>
>Here's the direct link to the JPEG.
>
>http://static.flickr.com/40/85917538_35f5c4770f_b.jpg

Er, the link you gave me earlier demanded a sign up. But you ignored
that because you are obviously a twat.

I did see the pic using the latest link. Very nice.

So, you're a very nice twat.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

[Cotty]

On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>He's an actor, not a "celebrity"

I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO - a couple of images

[frank theriault]

On 1/20/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd...
> The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...
>
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
>

I like them both.  I think I prefer the one with the "real" tree, but
the antenna tower's pretty cool, too.  Both interesting and pleasing
photos.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Konica-Minolta

[John Forbes]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:08:57 -, Kostas Kavoussanakis  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Mishka wrote:


so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up "some time real soon"?


Ssshhh!


Don't tell Herb!


Kostas (who actually misses Herb's financial analyses)


If you had ever worked for a public company, you would know that  
"analysts" know less than nothing about the companies they write about and  
advise on.


If you can, do.  If you can't, analyse.  If these people knew anything at  
all, they wouldn't sell their advice to you and me. They'd be acting on it  
on their own account, like Warren Buffet, and a few others who prefer to  
remain less visible.


Analysts? Parasites, the lot of them.

John

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Re: PESO - a couple of images

[Rick Womer]

Boris,

I like the first one ("Landing")--the combination of
blue sky, clouds, and silhouettes works well, as do
the interplay between the flying bird and the roosting
birds.

"Cellular" doesn't work nearly as well to me, because
there is no "tension" in the composition, and, well,
cellular towers are just plain ugly.

Rick

--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43
> Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
> The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens...
> It is mighty versatile...
> 
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Konica-Minolta

[John Forbes]

Don't you remember?  He thinks it will rise in value when Pentax goes out  
of business.  That's one reason he keeps bashing Pentax.


John

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:07:32 -, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Wonder why we haven't seen his Pentax gear for sale?

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-

From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Subject: Re: Konica-Minolta

Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
there than here, I suppose.

On 1/20/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


- Original Message -
From: "Mishka"


> so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up "some time real  
soon"?


Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.

William Robb





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Re: PESO - a couple of images

[pnstenquist]

I think 11513 would benefit from a tighter crop that eliminates most of the 
empty sky at top.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi!
> 
> It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
> The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...
> 
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
> 
> Boris
> 
>