Re: Back from GFM

2005-08-22 Thread Scott Loveless
My trip home took an hour longer than the trip to GFM.  200 miles of
30mph uphill and 60mph downhill sucked pretty hard.

I had never been to the Blue Ridge Mountains before Saturday.  I do
believe this is quite possibly one of the most beautiful places on
earth.  Grandfather Mountain might be the crown.

I had the pleasure of meeting several PDMLers.  Doug regaled us with a
rather, um, detailed history of the list.  He also made it very clear
that I should never, ever let anyone with tracoma use my camera. 
Doug's a hell of a guy.  Plus he's good for comic relief.

Cesar did, in fact, have a smile on his face the whole weekend.  Not
sure how he pulled that off, what with his tongue dragging the ground.
 Can't say that I blame him for that, though.  A most giving
individual, Cesar started handing me Pentax goodies to fondle almost
immediately after our introduction.  And he let me run a roll through
his 67.  I feel an enablement coming on.

Nico and his son were gracious enough to give me a ride from the
bridge down to the trail head parking lot.  It seems that I didn't
spend enough time with the map, assumed that I had to hike up to the
bridge, and then stupidly packed myself, the hard case containing the
C220 and paraphernalia, and a tripod up the side of the mountain. 
Nico is right up there near the top of my "favorite persons" list
about now.  His son, on the other hand, had lots of questions for me
on the way down:  "You didn't know there was a parking lot at the
bridge?  Couldn't you see that the road continued past the trail head?
 Why'd you carry all that stuff?"  Ah, children.  Patrick's a good
kid.  I hope to see them both again.

Charles Braswell is quite possibly the finest gentleman I've ever met.
 For those of you who have never met him, in addition to being a
wonderful photographer, he's also great conversationalist.  I'm only
sorry I wasn't able to spend more time with him.  I am most certainly
looking forward to his presentation next June.

I also had the pleasure of meeting Bill and Phyllis Owens. 
Unfortunately, they had to leave a bit early on Saturday.  But Bill,
rather matter-of-factly, assured me that everything would be in order
by next June.

Tom Reese actually shot some chrome this weekend.  He also let me
shoot a few frames with his 300/2.8.  WOW!  That's a hell of a nice
lens.  I've never experienced anything quite like the way that lens
just lights up when the subject is in focus.  Thanks, Tom!  Plus, Tom
let me caress his, err, MZ-S.  I feel another enablement coming on.  I
suppose that makes up for his snoring.

More details about the weekend's presentations and lots of photos to
come.  I'm off to soup some film.

-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



GESO: Grandfather Mountain Camera Clinic

2005-08-24 Thread Scott Loveless
Four quick scans.  Sorry, no time just yet to clean up the images. 
All photos made with E100G and the K1000.  The photo of the bear taken
with Tom's A300/f2.8, the eagle handheld with the M200/f4, and the
other two with the M28/3.5.

http://www.twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?list=21

More to come when I actually figure out how to get decent result from
my scanner.

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Re: Some select shots from the CC at GFMtn.

2005-08-24 Thread Scott Loveless
Those are very nice photos, Cesar, but who's the hobbit with the LX?  

I brought along the *ist loaded with 400iso color print film for
snapshots.  This was taken at 1am Sunday morning.  While Cesar's
tongue did drag the ground for most of the weekend, it's not visible
in this photo.  Must have been the wine.
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=169

On 8/24/05, Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These are just a few shots to let the PDML and others have a glimpse
> into the weekend at the Camera Clinic on Grandfather Mountain...
> http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/cameraclinic2005.msnw
> 
> The shot of Scott that I talked of earlier is at
> http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/cameraclinic2005.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=994
> 
> There is a shot of him with his MX at
> http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/cameraclinic2005.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=991
> 
> I still hope to put up a page with more shots, but this was convenient
> for the moment.  I did nothing but resize the images.
> 
> Still trying to catch up to the list,
> 
> César
> Panama City, Florida
> 
> 


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Re: Pancakes for Breakfast

2005-08-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/26/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> My understanding is 
that the DA40 Ltd covers 24x36mm format very well> despite it's "DA" 
designation. > Godfrey> > 

Does it really?  I hadn't considered this lens simply because it hasthe DA 
designation.  I assumed it wouldn't cover a 35mm frame.  If itwill, it may be 
on my short list.  Anyone have any experience with theDA40 on a film body?


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--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: Some select shots from the CC at GFMtn.

2005-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
Actually a 50/1.7.  :P
On 8/28/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Nice shots, Cesar, 
very nice.> > Scott, what's that on your MX, a 50mm f1/2?  It looks real 
nice...  > > cheers,> frank> > --> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  
-Henri Cartier-Bresson> > 

-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: OT: Binary watch

2005-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/28/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > $90US seems a lot of 
money just to be "carefree and eminently cool"  .> > Reminds me of a sig 
line on an e-mail I recently received from an old friend:> > "There are 10 
kinds of people in the world:  Those that understand> binary and those that 
don't."
I have that on a t-shirt.
Besides, you can get the super sized version for twenty 
bucks.http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/lights/59e0/



-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



More from the Mountain

2005-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
I shot a roll of HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic.  Here are afew shots 
of list members.
Cesar and Doug at breakfast.  Notice any 
similarities?http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=171
I realized as I was scanning the film that I took quite a few shots ofthe list 
guy.  In these he's photographing Joe DiMaggio'spresentation.  I think he may 
have been using Joe's 
camera.http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=172http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173
Which PDMLer is this?http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174
All of these were taken with the MX and M50/1.7.  Processed in D-76stock 
solution per Ilford's instructions.
Please feel free to comment, critique, laugh, etc.
-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: Probably going to switch

2005-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/28/05, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Does the number of high 
quality fully functional pentax lenses you already> own> dramatically affect 
your decision? ( You don't state ).> JCO> 
They certainly affected my decision:  I ain't going nowhere.  My sixprimes and 
two zooms are worth a few hundred dollars combined.  Evenif I wanted to switch, 
I couldn't afford it.  But hey, I'm happy withPentax.

-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: More from the Mountain

2005-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
Cesar let me run a roll through his 67.  This is Nico and Patrickhaving lunch 
on Sunday just before the exodus.  FP4+ (rebranded asAdox 125) in D-76.
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=175
On 8/28/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I shot a roll of HP5+ 
pushed two stops during the clinic.  Here are a> few shots of list members.> > 
Cesar and Doug at breakfast.  Notice any similarities?> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=171> > I realized as I was scanning 
the film that I took quite a few shots of> the list guy.  In these he's 
photographing Joe DiMaggio's> presentation.  I think he may have been using 
Joe's camera.> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=172> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173> > Which PDMLer is this?> 
http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174> > All of these were taken with 
the MX and M50/1.7.  Processed in D-76> stock solution per Ilford's 
instructions.> > Please feel free to comment, critique, laugh, etc.> > --> 
Scott Loveless> http://www.twosixteen.com> > --> "You have to hold the button 
down" -Arnold Newman> 

-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

2005-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
http://world.altavista.com/
On 8/28/05, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Can somebody please post me 
a babelfish?> ASAP> > To those of you who doesn't understand what I'm referring 
to:> Read Douglas Adams, or ignore me, or do both.> > > Tim> Mostly harmless 
(just plain Norwegian)> > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large 
crowds> (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)> > > 
-Original Message-> > From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 
29. august 2005 00:47> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > Subject: RE: Bicycling 
in France: All primes> >> > Mon aeroglisseur est plein d'anguilles> >> > ...of 
course.> >> > --> > Salut les mecs!> >  Bob> >> >> > > >" Je passe le vent dans 
votre direction générale "> > >> > > I'm still trying to work out how to say 
"My hovercraft is> > > full of eels."> >> >> > > > > 

-- Scott Lovelesshttp://www.twosixteen.com
--"You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman



Re: More from the Mountain

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
I've received a few complaints about the formatting.  Not sure what
the deal is.  I usually send UTF-8.  This is plain text.  Maybe it
will help.

On 8/28/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I shot a roll of HP5+ pushed two stops during the clinic.  Here are a
> few shots of list members.
> 
> Cesar and Doug at breakfast.  Notice any similarities?
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=170
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=171
> 
> I realized as I was scanning the film that I took quite a few shots of
> the list guy.  In these he's photographing Joe DiMaggio's
> presentation.  I think he may have been using Joe's camera.
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=172
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173
> 
> Which PDMLer is this?
> http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174
> 
> All of these were taken with the MX and M50/1.7.  Processed in D-76
> stock solution per Ilford's instructions.
> 
> Please feel free to comment, critique, laugh, etc.
> 
> --
> Scott Loveless
> http://www.twosixteen.com
> 
> --
> "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> 


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Re: More from the Mountain

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/29/05, Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So Scott, is there a 67 in your future? :-P

My wife says no.

> 
> As for http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173, Paige is not a
> PDMLer.  She is someone I met on the mountain at the NPW earlier this year.
> You know, I just realized that she shoots Minolta!  Some on the list may
> be seeing a trend?

Yeah, I know she's not a lister.  I was being a smart ass.  

> 
> By the way, I like the shots - even of Doug :-)
> The one of Paige is very nice.  I will forward it along, with your
> permission of course.

Thanks.  I think I've already sent links to Paige, but considering my
luck with my mailer the last couple of days I'm sure sending it again
couldn't hurt.  Feel free.

> 
> Waiting for the tornado watch to end,
> 
> César
> Panama City, Florida
> 

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Re: More from the Mountain

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
It should be http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=174

On 8/29/05, keithw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cesar wrote:
> > So Scott, is there a 67 in your future? :-P
> >
> > Similarities 'twixt Doug and me - other than long-lost brothers (I am
> > the brother Mom never talked about) - I cannot see other than who else
> > is in the photo...  I do notice she seems a little alarmed by what he is
> > saying...
> >
> > As for http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=173, Paige is not a
> > PDMLer.  She is someone I met on the mountain at the NPW earlier this year.
> > You know, I just realized that she shoots Minolta!  Some on the list may
> > be seeing a trend?
> 
> I opened this URL, and the person there is NOT a 'she'...
> Excuses for this misidentification?
> 
> keith
> 
> > By the way, I like the shots - even of Doug :-)
> > The one of Paige is very nice.  I will forward it along, with your
> > permission of course.
> >
> > Waiting for the tornado watch to end,
> >
> > César
> > Panama City, Florida
> 
> 


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Re: OT: Binary watch

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/29/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Scott, are you using something different for your email? Not trying to
> send HTML are you??
> 

No, I'm not sending HTML.  A couple days ago I tried to send a message
to the list which was immediately rejected.  For some strange reason,
my gmail account had reset a few options.  I put them back the way I
had them before, but quite a few folks started complaining about
garbled email.  I think I've got the bugs worked out.  Sorry for any
frustrations I may have caused.



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Spotmatic SP 500 repair questions

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Howdy gang!

A coworker, Ashley, purchased a Honeywell SP500 at a thrift store over
the weekend.  Cosmetically, it's near perfect.  No dents, no bright
marks, all the paint is intact.  The shutter is consistent, if not
accurate, the film advance works well, the interior is clean.  She
paid $4 for it (count 'em, four)!  But the mirror stays up.  When I
move a little lever out of the way the mirror can be pulled down, but
it springs back up.  Any thoughts on adjustments or simple repairs
that may correct this?  I'd really like to save this little beauty. 
(A big thanks to Mark for making the service manual available. 
Unfortunately, I'm just a bit too dense to make sense of it.)

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Re: Test

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Sounds like the same problems I've been having.  Join the beta email club.

On 8/29/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am I getting through?  I don't see any of my posts of today in the
> archives.  When I logged on, for some reason my g-mail sent out
> enriched text, and my first two posts were bounced.  I re-set for
> text-only, and re-sent, but I haven't seen any of those posts.
> 
> I seem to be getting other's posts, but don't see mine. I'm guessing
> that I'm still subscribed, but maybe The List God is pissed with me
> due to those enriched-text posts?  Could someone reply to this if it
> gets to the list?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


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Re: PESO: Chinatown Canyon (resend)

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Beautiful.  I've always enjoyed your balance of contrast and tonality.
 Care to share with us how you expose your film?  If you know, how
your lab processes and prints your photographs would be nice as well. 
Thanks for sharing, Frank.

On 8/29/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I may have had trouble with my posts not having gone through
> earlier this evening, so I'm resending this one;  apologies if this is
> a duplicate.
> 
> This is noteworthy only for the person featured in it, a well-loved
> PDML member who doesn't seem to like having her picture taken and
> displayed (at least by me ).
> 
> I did love New York's Chinatown:  it was so dark and mysterious and
> full of twists and turns and smells and textures and characters.  I'm
> not sure if I captured much that here, but I kind of like this shot
> anyway, probably more for the memories it evokes than any actual
> aesthetic value.  Still, you may comment:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3680667
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


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Re: Gimp, Anyone?

2005-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
The GIMP plug-in registry is here:
http://registry.gimp.org/index.jsp

I've never used this one, but it's description is certainly neat-o.
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4504


On 8/29/05, David Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Say, anyone using the Gimp for their image manipulations?
> 
> It seems pretty well featured plus their are many useful and
> free plugins to be had.  Can also use Photoshop plugins (not
> sure about all of them, but the BW plus and pseudo IR
> mentioned here earlier work fine).
> 
> I dunno, I like the price better than the PS CS and well, it
> has a certain charm to it.  I am slowly learning some of the
> features, but it seems to be a bottomless pit for a hobbyist
> such as myself.
> 
> Can we start a plugin list for the one's people like and that
> are perhaps free or cheap?
> 
> Here is a plugin that works in PS and the Gimp as well:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.optikvervelabs.com/
> 
> 
> It is called virtual photographer.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____
> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> 
> 
> 


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Re: OT: Binary watch

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/30/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Will you be at the NPW next June?
> 

You know it.

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Re: OT: Binary watch

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Loveless
My answer didn't convince you to stay home, did it?

On 8/30/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/30/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Will you be at the NPW next June?
> >
> 
> You know it.
> 
> --
> Scott Loveless
> http://www.twosixteen.com
> 
> --
> "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
> 


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Re: Pentax-M f/13.5 2000mm

2005-08-31 Thread Scott Loveless
I just read the description of the lens.  Apparently, this is one of
those magical lenses that grows 1000mm when you attach it to a digital
body.  Imagine the foresight required on the part of the Pentax
engineers back when they designed this lens

On 8/31/05, Bertil Holmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since few of you are likely to follow the German eBay, I stick my
> neck out on this one:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.de/13-5-2000mm-SMC-PENTAX-ORIGINAL-AUCH-AF-
> DIGITAL_W0QQitemZ7542882919QQcategoryZ4688QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> I did not know that such a monstrocity even existed but now I'm glad
> to have seen it!
> 
> 


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Re: FedEx Hoovers!

2005-09-01 Thread Scott Loveless
My previous employer shipped between 400 and 1700 packages per day. 
About 10% (give or take) were USPS.  The rest were UPS.  The USPS lost
more total packages than UPS!  I would sometimes go weeks without
having to deal with a lost UPS package.  USPS issues were a daily
occurence.  Plus, at least from a business perspective, UPS was much
easier to deal with.  Lost package situations were rectified within 8
days of the loss being reported.  In many cases, especially with APO
addresses, the USPS wouldn't even listen to complaints about lost
packages until the package had been missing for at least 30 days.  To
this day, I avoid USPS shipments at all costs.  If the business I'm
ordering from has no other option, I'll look around for another
supplier before placing the order.  This is the primary reason I don't
order from B&N anymore.

My latest horror story involved a DHL shipment from Philadelphia. 
This is a three hour drive.  For those who may not know, residential
deliveries from DHL are dropped at the local post office and then the
USPS makes the actual delivery.  This package took two days to make it
the local (or so I thought) post office.  In reality, the package was
dropped at the wrong post office.  Said post office sat on the package
for four days before forwarding it to my local post office.  By the
time it arrived at my house it had taken eight days to go about 160
miles.  Fun!

On 9/1/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The truth is that many people have had minor to severe problems with many
> shippers.  At one time the PO was the butt of many jokes, but it seems
> they've pretty much gotten their act together, at least with parcel
> shipments.  I like using the PO because the items are delivered to my PO
> Box, I don't have to be around to pick it up, it doesn't sit outside
> waiting to be stolen, and everyone at my post office knows me, which allows
> for fast, friendly service both for pick ups and for sending packages.
> Still, sometimes a letter or a flat will take two weeks to arrive from
> across town.  My all time record was 11 months for a letter to travel 15
> miles - and that happened TWICE! 
> 
> UPS - at least on my route - has been great as well.  Sometimes - rarely -
> a shipper will send an item UPS with my PO Box address on it.  I guess UPS
> "knows" me by now, and they just change the shipping label and the package
> is delivered to my door.
> 
> However, I think Godfrey is correct in that I'm a little cranky because I
> want this camera NOW.  I couldn't have used it anyway as the place I bought
> the SD card from, who, on their web site says: "We guarantee same-day
> shipping before 6:00PM CST." has just today put the card into their
> shipping pipeline.  I ordered it several days ago, on Sept 29 @ 7:00am.
> That's The Flash Memory Store for those who care.
> 
> Well, at least I've got a PDF version of the DS manual, thanks to Godfrey.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Graywolf
> 
> > My sympathy.
> >
> > I have been having a problem with an item I ordered more than a month
> ago. But I have to blame the sellers, I picked them because the said they
> shipped via USPS, then the shipped it via Fed Ex Ground (The absolute worse
> shipping service in the world) the other day after 8 days working its way
> across the country it was marked as returned to shipper. What kind of idiot
> would try to ship something to a PO Box address via Fed Ex Ground? Oh
> the seller does not answer email either.
> >
> > So, anyway, I figure I understand how you feel.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Bicycling in France: All primes

2005-09-01 Thread Scott Loveless
Take the 50.  Consider it insurance.  If you don't take it the 43 will
be lost/damaged/stolen on the very first day.  If you do take, both
lenses will be fine.  Don't believe me?  Ask the Philly PDML crew
about bringing spare bodies.  

On 9/1/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Evan Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Have a great time but...
> >n0 50 are you crazy? ; )
> 
> I still may take the 50, even though it's kind of close to the 43. I'll
> decide at the last minute, probably...
> (Plane departs at 12:45 tomorrow!)
> 
> 
> --
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
> 
> 


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Re: Vacation Time Again

2005-09-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/2/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For the first time in forever, I am taking no film.

Wow!  That Zen photography thing is really catching on.  


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Pentax vs. Nikon

2005-09-03 Thread Scott Loveless
A few days ago I stopped by the local shopping mall (I hate shopping
malls) because I needed to get a Needle Point Precision Lubricator at
Radio Shack.  I wandered into the Ritz Camera store just to see what
they stock these days.  To my surprise they had a DS, a Nikon D50, and
a Canon Rebel XT in their display case.  I asked the lady behind the
counter if I could take a look at the DS and D50.  The exchange went
something like this:

Me:  Can I see the DS and the D50?

Sales Lady:  The what?

Me:  The DS and the D50?

Her:  What's a DS?

Me:  The Pentax SLR you have in your case.

Her:  Oh, OK.

She handed me both cameras.  Both had an 18-55/3.5-5.6 attached.

Sales Girl:  No one's ever asked me for the DS.  Most people want the
XT or the D50.

Me:  Yeah, I don't do Canon.

Her:  I think you'll like the Nikon better.  It has more features and
accessories are easier to find.  Pentax is more of a niche
manufacturer.  You really can't get many accessories for it.

Me:  The viewfinder in the Pentax is bit nicer.  Does the D50 have a
prism or a mirror?

Warm body behind the counter:  All SLRs have mirrors.

Me:  I'm not talking about the mirror that flips up when you press the
shutter release.  What's underneath this big bump on the top of the
camera.

Warm body:  Uhh.  The Nikon has a Nikkor lens.  The Nikkor lens is
better than the Pentax.

Me:  Really?  Why's that?

Her:  Better images.  And it's built better.

Me:  The mount on the Pentax lens is metal.  The Nikon is plastic.

Dip shit:  Have you seen the Rebel XT.  You might like that one better.

At this point I chuckled and walked out.  The conversation was a quite
a bit longer, but I'm sure you get the picture.  I still am not sure
why she was so insistent on steering me away from the Pentax.  All
three kits were roughly the same price.

The lubricator from Radio Shack is really cool, though.  Highly
recommended for those of you who work on your own cameras.

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Final SMP

2005-09-11 Thread Scott Loveless
Looks like Mikey's calling it quits on the SMP articles.  I've
thoroughly enjoyed them for the last couple years.  I think I may have
learned a thing or two from them, I've certainly disagreed with some
of them, and I think my enablement bug can be partially blamed on Mr.
Johnston.  It was one of the SMP articles that brought the PDML to my
attention, so I guess I can blame quite a bit on Mr. Johnston.  

Anyway, just thought I'd mention it.  Here's the linky:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/09112005.html

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Re: OT: Another quiz!

2005-09-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Hades.  Man, that Persephone is one hot.

On 9/13/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.paleothea.com/quizzes.html
> 
> Not going to tell you what I came out as - to embarassing...
> 
> 
> -
> Email sent from www.ntlworld.com
> Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software
> Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
> 
> 


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Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)

2005-09-13 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/13/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Cyclists would chaffe, but if they want the Gold bad enough...
> 

 A&D and stop whining. 


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Re: Some Posting Suggestions

2005-09-14 Thread Scott Loveless
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:24:42 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > We should change over to cat's pictures - a topic I know far less above.
> >
> > ;-)
> > Martin
> >
> That outa keep Mike Johnson off the list a while more.
> Dave
> 

Good call.  After all, with no more SMP columns, I bet he's got some
time on his hands.  Wouldn't want him wasting it here, would we? 



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Re: It's Here and It Works! - SPROING!!

2005-09-15 Thread Scott Loveless
My 750z only covers about three feet.  If yours is launching across
the room, I am once again falling, er, short.

On 9/15/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A competition sounds like fun.  Do you recall what the greatest distance
> was?
> 

> Shel
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> 
> > Others got so annoyed by his whingeing that they
> > started running a competition to see how far they could launch the
> > card. He finally shut up.
> >


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Interior photography and the *istD

2005-09-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Howdy gang!

I may have a line on a job taking photographs for a company that does
interior and exterior work for real estate companies.  While I don't
know the details of said work just yet, I do know that they provide
those interior panoramas that are quite popular with online real
estate listings.  If the job pans out I'm considering purchasing an
*istD or DS.  Was wondering if any of you might have an opinion on
which lenses might be most useful in that situation?  My first
thoughts were to get the widest lens I could find, but after looking
at some of the wonderful landscape panoramas stitched together by Mark
I'm not sure that a super wide angle lens would be absolutely
necessary.

Any thoughts?

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Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-19 Thread Scott Loveless
LOL

On 9/19/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Count: 78 green button messages from JCO in 27 hours.
>
> Bloody slacker. That's only three per hour. He needs better spam-
> generating software.
>
> Godfrey
>
>


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Re: Interior photography and the *istD

2005-09-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/20/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 19/9/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> > If the job pans out
>
> AARGH :-)
>

HAHA!
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Re: Proposition and a Vote_ WAS_Petition to Pentax?

2005-09-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Oh, yeah!

On 9/20/05, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OK Folks, how vote you, Yea or Nay
>
> Don
>


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Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Howdy gang!

After spending about four lifetimes following the recent spew about
non-A lens support, I started to think about what I would really WANT
in a digital camera.  (This has nothing to do with the possible
petition to Pentax.)  Just for kicks (and a bit of flame-free fun) I'd
like to know what you would WANT if you could have your DSLR your way.
 Throw caution to the wind.  Don't even consider what is feasible or
marketable.  Just let us know what your dream digital camera looks
like.

Here's mine:
I wanna be able to select ISO and shutter speed with knobs.
It should support an available line of manual focus lenses.  K-mount
(un-crippled) is good.  Screw mount or M-mount would be cool, too.
I don't need auto focus, auto aperture, or auto anything.
Monochrome sensor.  Something in the 4 to 6 MP range is good.
Metal chassis.  Metal body.
RAW and JPEG.
PC sync.
No built-in flash.
Less than $1500 US.


Things I don't need, but could live with:
Hot shoe.
Picture modes.

Features I would like, but could live without:
In-camera DNG support.

That's about it.

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Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Sorry.  Forgot about that.  I do like the needle on the K1000 much
better than the LEDs on the MX.  Good call.

On 9/21/05, Vic Mortelmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds fabulous!
>
> What about adding a needle light meter? Like on my Spotmatic F.
>
> Groeten,
>
> Vic
>


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Re: Interior photography and the *istD

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks for all the wonderful replies.  Should this sort of work
actually come my way, I'll consider the D or DS and the DA14 very
seriously.  Of course, Nikon has this nifty 10.5mm lens.

Thanks again.

On 9/19/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy gang!
>
> I may have a line on a job taking photographs for a company that does
> interior and exterior work for real estate companies.  While I don't
> know the details of said work just yet, I do know that they provide
> those interior panoramas that are quite popular with online real
> estate listings.  If the job pans out I'm considering purchasing an
> *istD or DS.  Was wondering if any of you might have an opinion on
> which lenses might be most useful in that situation?  My first
> thoughts were to get the widest lens I could find, but after looking
> at some of the wonderful landscape panoramas stitched together by Mark
> I'm not sure that a super wide angle lens would be absolutely
> necessary.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
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> http://www.twosixteen.com
>
> --
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>


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Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Except for the 5 fps and 20 shot buffer, he wants an S3 Pro.

On 9/21/05, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?
>
>
> >I want relatively high resolution, 12 megapixels or so. I want low noise at
> >speeds up to 1600. If that can be accomplished with an APS sensor, fine. I
> >want five frames per second and a buffer large enough for 20 shots. $2000.
> >Controls just like the *ist D would be perfect.
> > Paul
>
> except for the 12MP, you want a 20D. :-)
>
> Christian
>
>
>


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Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/21/05, Tim Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Scott, I like your list, but there's a few things I'd add (from the
> perspective of a happy *istDS owner):
>
> Full-frame sensor w/o a second mortgage
> ~or~
> A better selection of fixed short focal lengths
>
>

Agreed.  The increasing lack of Pentax fixed length lenses is one of
the lesser reasons I haven't drank the *istD/DS Kool-Aid.  More often
than not the MX has either a 28 or 85 mounted.  However, my recently
aquired 35/2.8 (Thanks, Don!) is quickly replacing the 28.  I can live
with either, though.  That said, with an APS sensor, I'd need
something in the 20-24mm range (not currently a problem) and another
lens in the 55-65mm range.  That last one is a big problem.  I don't
like using zooms.  So far I've found a 60mm macro bearing the Nikkor
badge that might suit my real world needs.  As far as my fictional B&W
digital goes, a screw mount or K-mount body with a 55/1.8 would be
killer.  Full frame without a mortgage is good, too.  


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Re: use of the Green button?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried screw mount lenses with the
*istD/DS?  After manually stopping the lens down, does the green
button workaround work?

On 9/20/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. One thing I've wondered about is how fast in real life is the use of
> > the
> > Green button?. Once activated to shot being taken - is it a few tenths of
> > second prolongation, or is it a second..?
>
> By the time your finger is back to the shutter button, the camera is ready.
> Watch that you don't knock yourself out of metering range with the green
> button metering method.
>
> William Robb
>
>
>


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Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Posting what?  You haven't posted anything!

On 9/20/05, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, can't resist posting this:
>
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~mfpatton/sketch.htm
>

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Re: use of the Green button?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/21/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>
> > Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried screw mount lenses with the
> > *istD/DS?  After manually stopping the lens down, does the green
> > button workaround work?
>
> This has been repeated here many times:

Probably on of the many digital discussions that went to /dev/null.  

>
> Screw mount lenses fitted to the D/DS/DL work with metering. They
> must be manually stopped down to taking aperture for both exposure
> metering and exposure. They work in Av automatic exposure mode and in
> Manual/B mode. All other modes default to Av automatic mode.
>
> - Setting exposure in Manual mode requires setting the lens aperture
> to the desired value and then pressing the Green button (D)/AE-Lock
> button (DS), which takes a reading and sets the shutter speed.
>
> - Setting exposure in Av mode requires setting the lens aperture to
> the desired value and making a half press on the shutter release to
> read out the shutter speed.
>
That's what I was hoping for.  Thank you, sir.


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Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/21/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 2005, at 12:37 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>
> > The increasing lack of Pentax fixed length lenses is one of
> > the lesser reasons I haven't drank the *istD/DS Kool-Aid.
>
> At last count, there are 12 Pentax brand primes between 14mm and
> 135mm listed at B&H Photo:
>

29 from Nikon, 16 from Canon, and 24 from Leica (not that I can afford
anything they currently offer).  These counts are from the
manufacturer's web sites.  From Cameraquest, VC has 8 SLR lenses, some
of which are available in KA mount, and at least 16 for Leica (some
are not available for both mounts).  I've left out everything longer
than 135mm.

>
> A 20 and a 50 will give you about the same FoV pairing as you are
> currently using on your MX (a little shorter on the long end, a
> little longer on the wide end, but not by much).
>

The 50 on an APS sensor is a bit short for my tastes.


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Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/21/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I dunno, Scott. I only need one lens each of a few focal lengths. I
> certainly don't need to own 12, not to mention 29. I don't know
> Nikon's current line-up very well, and I'm not interested in Leica's
> either for the same reason you aren't.

Me, either.  But the variety available is comforting.

>
> >> A 20 and a 50 will give you about the same FoV pairing as you are
> >> currently using on your MX (a little shorter on the long end, a
> >> little longer on the wide end, but not by much).
> >
> > The 50 on an APS sensor is a bit short for my tastes.

I had the opportunity, thanks to Amita, to take a few shots with the
FA50/1.4 on her *ist D.  It just didn't feel right.  However, you're
probably right that I would get used to it - I tried a 77 ltd and
really liked the feel and build quality.  I remember thinking "I could
get used to this".

So, on my
>
> Field of View angles
>First letter indicates D=DSLR, F=35mm SLR.
>Horizontal - Vertical - Diagonal degrees
> ---
> FL - H - V - D
> D 50.0 - 26.9 - 18.2 - 32.2
> D 55.0 - 24.6 - 16.6 - 29.4
> F 85.0 - 23.9 - 16.1 - 28.6
> D 60.0 - 22.6 - 15.2 - 27.0
>
> What you want is about 58mm FL, although I can't see how less than
> four degrees in diagonal FoV makes enough difference to matter. I
> think you could get used to it. :-)
>
> Godfrey
>
>


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Re: green button wars (again)

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Not.

On 9/21/05, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> +
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
>
>
> Quoting Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Posting what?  You haven't posted anything!
> >
> > On 9/20/05, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, can't resist posting this:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?

2005-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
Besides, the 24/2 is out of stock at BHPhoto.  Again.  Adorama doesn't
even list it.  What's this "available" thing Herb is talking about?

On 9/21/05, Tim Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but Scott said anything goes... :)
>
> On 9/21/05 18:24, Herb Chong wrote:
>
> > the 24/2 is available, but you might find its CA too high to be livable. the
> > 20/2.8 is the closest you are going to get otherwise.
> >
> > Herb
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Sherburne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: Irrelevant Poll: What do you WANT in a digital camera?
> >
> >
> >> There are two lenses I'm looking for specifically:
> >>
> >> - A 180° fisheye; it appears that Nikon is the only vendor with a FE made
> >> for the 4/3 sensor. To bad it uses the wrong mount!
> >>
> >> - A discrete f2 (or faster) lens, 20mm to 24mm focal length
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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Re: OT: Christmas in Sept. iBook is here

2005-09-22 Thread Scott Loveless
No way, Frank!  I mentioned before, I'm bringing a trunkload of
processing chemicals, a scanner, and some HP5+ or Tri-X.  I'll be
processing my film in the restroom at the picnic area.  With any luck,
someone with a CD-R in a laptop will let me plug in the scanner.  You
gotta stick with me here.  I hate being a complete loner.  It's you
and me, babe!

On 9/22/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:03:02 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > If i can have it fiqured out by GFM time, we should be sitting pretty for 
> > the contest.Eh
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> I'll just borrow one of Cesar's D's again...  
>

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Re: Camera engineering ( GREEN BUTTON has just officially DIED...)

2005-09-22 Thread Scott Loveless
Doug told us all about Mafud during the camera clinic.  Now I feel
like I missed out on something really special.

On 9/22/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yer a pee wee compared to Mafud.
> No hall of fame for you, honky boy.
> WW
>
>


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OT Apple flavored Kool-Aid

2005-09-22 Thread Scott Loveless
I finally drank the Kool-Aid.  The Mac Mini arrived today.  It's
currently disguised as a birthday present for my wife, but I'm pretty
excited about trying it out this weekend.  I suppose I have to stop
making fun of Mac users now.  

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Re: OT Apple flavored Kool-Aid

2005-09-22 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/22/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LOL ...
> If you have any questions, send me a note.

Thanks.  Will do.  I've been using Slackware Linux for a while now, so
I think I have a handle on the *nix part.  But if I  run into
problems, you'll build a killfile just for me.

> Minis are cool. First time I saw one, I thought it was an Apple candy
> tin. ;-)

I'll pry her open and see.


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Re: Agfa News

2005-09-23 Thread Scott Loveless
No clue if they're any good, but these guys claim they can process Scala:
http://www.dr5.com/main.html

On 9/23/05, Gautam Sarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Find out how long they will support processing before you go wild on the
> > film purchase.
>
> Good idea.  Thanks.
>
> Gautam
>
>


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Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-23 Thread Scott Loveless
Good to meetcha, Bill.  HP5+ in the SLR, FP4+ in the TLR, and Polaroid
in the Crown Graphic when I can afford it.  Processing it myself. 
Everything is scanned.

Long live film!

On 9/23/05, Bill D. Casselberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Hey kids!
>
> I'm back  ;^)
>
> Got myself another 6x7 & the 45mm lens and a bunch of E100vs
>
>... a 165mm f2.8, a 300mm f4 and some miscellany are enroute
>to the new abodeLet The "Real Photography" Begin!!!
>
> PS: it'll also do digital via a film scanner, something like
> 250 megapixels or some such ...
>   !8^D  egads!
>
> Wild Bill on the "Skenick Oregon Koast"
>
>


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Re: I'm ba-ack

2005-09-23 Thread Scott Loveless
Hey Rob!  Welcome back.  Glad to hear your trip went well.

BTW, I was wondering your opinion on the green button workaround for
non-A lenses?  

On 9/23/05, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> Yes I did almost disappear without trace (thanks for the pic Dave, the Winter
> coat will be off shortly but I'll keep the other gray Cotty :-)
>
> I experienced the liberation of almost seven weeks without Internet
> connectivity (both bliss and frustration in a strange combination) however in
> that time I've driven 15797km (~9818miles) and paid for thousands of L of
> hideously expensive fuel (up to AU$1.699/L or ~US$4.88/gallon) so I'm a little
> short on cash and a bit road dazed but I did shoot some OK pics (I think).
>
> No pics to show just yet as I'm still in the midst of unpacking and cleaning
> and eradicating email spam whilst attempting to manage 63GB of pics. It's good
> to be subscribed again, will try to keep a eye on the list but will be pretty
> busy for a few weeks yet, looks like I missed a few good spats too ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
>
>


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Re: The importance of careful quoting......

2005-09-23 Thread Scott Loveless
At least you're not going soft on us.

On 9/23/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "cbwaters"
> Subject: Re: The importance of careful quoting..
>
>
> >I caught that as well Bill but chose to leave it alone...I've never been
> >one to kick a man when he's "down" ;)
>
> Obviously, you and Tom have never met....
> HAR!!!
> Sorry Tom, I just can't help myself sometimes.
> WW
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Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Scott Loveless
Don't let that stop you.

On 9/24/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Jordan wrote:
>
> > Call me a luddite if you will,
>
> If you were female I'd marry you.
>
> Tom Reese
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Re: anybody still shoot film?

2005-09-24 Thread Scott Loveless
Nah.  You've got hair.

On 9/24/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, I have some standards. Who do you think I am? Cotty?
>
> Tom Reese
>
> > Don't let that stop you.
> >
> > On 9/24/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Peter Jordan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Call me a luddite if you will,
> > >
> > > If you were female I'd marry you.
> > >
> > > Tom Reese
>
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Re: WTB: rangefinder ?

2005-09-25 Thread Scott Loveless
These turn up on EBay frequently.  The 1.7 models usually fetch a
price I think is way too high.  You might also consider a Yashica
Electro 35 GSN.



On 9/25/05, Michael Spivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking to get some Canonet 17QL GII to play with
> Does anybody have one to sell ?
>
> Looking for one in a good estetc condition with working and accurate
> light meter and clean lens.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> PS: can someone advice any other good,small,sharp, F/1.7 rangefinder
> LIKE the canonet WITH a light meter and a clean viewfinder ?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance
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OT -- lenswork back issue #28

2007-02-25 Thread Scott Loveless
Does anyone have a copy of LensWork #28, or the 10 or 11 year CD
compilation?  I'd like to read the article entitled "Getting Serious:
The One Hundred Prints Project".  Unfortunately, the print version of
that issue is no longer available.

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Re: OT -- lenswork back issue #21 (corrected)

2007-02-25 Thread Scott Loveless
Sorry.  That should be issue #21.  Thanks again.

On 2/25/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a copy of LensWork #28, or the 10 or 11 year CD
> compilation?  I'd like to read the article entitled "Getting Serious:
> The One Hundred Prints Project".  Unfortunately, the print version of
> that issue is no longer available.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/27/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
>
> >>> Wasn't this a thread 4 or 5 years ago? :-D
> >>
> >>The PDML is an environmentally friendly list and believes in recycling.
> >
> >What a throwaway line!
>
> I love it when you talk trash like that.
>
Take it outside.

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Re: PESO -- Leaf

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Pete.  I struggled with the composition quite a bit.  I wanted
to keep the stem where it is, and using a standard format (8x10 in
this case) meant that the leaf was centered.  The correct way for me
to fix this would be to go back to the camera and try it again.  BTW,
my wife agrees with you.

On 2/25/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice rendering, but it's a little too centered in the frame for me.
> Maybe crop about 1/6th of the frame off the top.
>
> Scott Loveless wrote:
> > I've always been inspired by Paul Caponigro's still life work.  Last
> > month's issue of LensWork featured a photographer by the name of Guy
> > Gagnon, a French Canadian living in Belgium.  His photographs are
> > black and white renderings of dried plants against a black velvet
> > background.  Since it's snowing outside and I didn't really feel like
> > getting out, I draped a black sweatshirt over a dining chair, parked
> > it next to the window, and took a few frames of this leaf that
> > recently fell off one of my wife's plants.
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162
> >
> > I shot this with the K100D and 18-55 kit lens at 45mm, f11, 0.3
> > seconds, -1.5EV, ISO 200, and then tinkered around with it a bit in
> > Picasa.  I think it needs more depth of field.  I think I need a
> > better understanding of black and white conversion.  I know I'm going
> > to want that 35mm Macro Limited.
> >
> > Comments and critiques most welcome.  Thanks for looking.
> >
> >
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Re: PESO -- Leaf

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/25/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/25/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162
> >
>
> I really like this, Scott.  Very simple.  nice line, coming out of the
> bottom left corner.  Great work.
>
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Re: PESO -- Leaf

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Rick.  Much appreciated.  I really enjoyed working on this
one, other than the framing issues., and I think I'll keep working on
this sort of thing for a while.

On 2/25/07, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott, I really like this one!  The way the leaf
> undulates is fascinating.  Nice composition and
> exposure, too.
>
> Rick
>
> --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've always been inspired by Paul Caponigro's still
> > life work.  Last
> > month's issue of LensWork featured a photographer by
> > the name of Guy
> > Gagnon, a French Canadian living in Belgium.  His
> > photographs are
> > black and white renderings of dried plants against a
> > black velvet
> > background.  Since it's snowing outside and I didn't
> > really feel like
> > getting out, I draped a black sweatshirt over a
> > dining chair, parked
> > it next to the window, and took a few frames of this
> > leaf that
> > recently fell off one of my wife's plants.
> >
> >
> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162
> >
> > I shot this with the K100D and 18-55 kit lens at
> > 45mm, f11, 0.3
> > seconds, -1.5EV, ISO 200, and then tinkered around
> > with it a bit in
> > Picasa.  I think it needs more depth of field.  I
> > think I need a
> > better understanding of black and white conversion.
> > I know I'm going
> > to want that 35mm Macro Limited.
> >
> > Comments and critiques most welcome.  Thanks for
> > looking.
> >
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Re: PESO -- Leaf

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/25/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
>
> Subject: Re: PESO -- Leaf
>
>
> > On 2/25/07, Scott Loveless
>  I know I'm going
> >> to want that 35mm Macro Limited.
>
> Scott, I think you will find the 35 macro to be too short. I've been using
> the 100 macro a lot with the digital and am quite happy with it. I'm of the
> opinion that something in the 65-75mm FL would be ideal as a macro.
> Perhaps try a 50mm with a close up lens to see if you like that FL for
> macro, and if so, look for a 50mm macro lens instead.
>
> William Robb
>
On 2/26/07, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott, it works as it is now.
>
> I however suggest that you consider alternative macro lenses, because
> the shorter the focal length - the closer the object has to be to the
> front element of the lens, which is not always a good thing.
>

Thanks, Bill and Boris.  You may very well be correct.  This was shot
with the 18-55 kit lens at 45.  35mm may indeed be too short.  I do
have a couple 50mm lenses, an 80-200 zoom lens and a some close up
lenses that screw on the front.  When I get around to working on
another of these I'll take several shots at 35, 50, 100mm.  This
should give me a pretty good idea of where I'm most comfortable before
I purchase a macro lens.

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Re: PESO -- Leaf

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5035527265195980162
>

On 2/25/07, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simple and effective.  I'm not sure that more depth of field would be an 
> advantage. It wouldn't be nearly as interesting if everything was in sharp 
> focus.
>

On 2/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I think  on something like this, it would be better to have stronger DOF
> throughout most  of it. I.E. It doesn't quite work for me.
>
> Marnie aka Doe
>
Thanks to both of you for taking time to comment.  My initial thoughts
were that it needed more depth of field.  Next time I'll try it both
ways and see how it comes out.

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Re: OT: How many List Members Does it Take?

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/27/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >
> >> > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >
> >> > Cotty wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >>> Wasn't this a thread 4 or 5 years ago? :-D
> >> > >>
> >> > >>The PDML is an environmentally friendly list and believes in
> recycling.
> >> > >
> >> > >What a throwaway line!
> >> >
> >> > I love it when you talk trash like that.
> >>
> >> It's wasted on me.
> >>
> >Rubbish!
>
> Can any other group in all the land fill a thread with nonsense like
> this?
>
I doubt it.  This is some serious garbage, man.

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Re: New Lenses

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Just in time for GFM!

On 2/27/07, Bill Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-16-50mm-Angle-Digital-Cameras/dp/B000NO5QV6/sr=
> 1-2/qid=1172623027/ref=sr_na_2/105-0385156-1864461
>
> I'm afraid I don't know how to do the tiny url thing.
>
> Bill Sawyer
> Livonia, MI
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Re: Pentax digital medium format

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
75mm and 135mm leaf shutter lenses have no 'A' setting.  Granted,
there were still soft focus FA lenses (with no 'A' setting) in the
catalog when they introduced SAFOX 8 metering.  As far as I know,
there are no SAFOX 8 cameras with aperture levers.  The 645n does, in
fact, use the same metering electronics as your MZ-3.

On 2/27/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do, as Pentax uses as many systems across camera lines as possible to
> keep costs down.  The metering and auto focus electronics in the 645n
> were probably, (I only say probably since I've never taken either camera
> apart, though if someone would like to send me a 645n to sacrifice I'll
> be happy to compare it's electronic guts to my not economically feasible
> to repair MZ-3), the same modules as those in the MZ/ZX-5n.  I expect
> the 645D to share the autofocus electronics and metering with the K10D.
> If they do that, and I have every confidence Pentax will, full aperture
> metering with 67 lenses is dead as the dodo.
>
> Thibouille wrote:
> > Ah I didn't know. That said, I don't expect Pentax to drop support for
> > this in their Pro line.
> >
> > 2007/2/27, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> All 645 lenses are A lenses and are electronically identical to to the
> >> Pentax Ka lens mount.  There is no 645 equivalent to a K lens but I
> >> would expect that the 67 lenses would fill that niche.  Remember Ka
> >> lenses are supported by all Pentax K DSLRs but using the aperture ring
> >> for full aperture metering isn't.
> >>
> >> Thibouille wrote:
> >>
> >>> If the adapter provides the linkage then 645D should meter normally IMO.
> >>> Pentax stated that 645D is compatible with all 645 lenses and the
> >>> DFA55 is announced as being compatible with previous 645 bodies (and
> >>> it has an aperture ring).
> >>>
> >>> So it should (hopefully) be OK.
> >>>
> >>> 2007/2/27, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> P. J. Alling wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Mark Roberts wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Thibouille wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mmm BTW do 67 lenses provide mecanical coupling when
> >>>>>>>> used on 645 with adaptor or one you them like M42 on K body ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When used on the current 645, using a 67 lens would be akin to
> >>>>>>> using an M42 lens on the Pentax digitals.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> A little better than that: The 67-645 adapter does provide
> >>>>>> automatic diaphragm actuation and open aperture metering. At
> >>>>>> least according to the Pentax literature. I'd love to buy one of the
> >>>>>> things if I could ever find one.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> But will it offer open aperture metering on the 645D?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Impossible to say without having a 645D to play with, don't you think?
> >>>> But I'd be surprised if it didn't.
> >>>>
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Re: Another lens story.

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/27/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That poor DA70mm lens. There it was, sitting unloved and unused on a camera
> store shelf.
> Lens purgatory.
> The damnation of the unbought.
> Terribly sad.
> A poor little box, hiding shyly behind a bunch of other boxes on a shelf,
> nearly forgotten, wanting a home.
>
> I was at The Don's today to buy a replacement Extreme 3 SD card for the one
> that has gone AWOL, and a newer reader that would read it.
> I found a Sandisk Extreme card reader which is very nice, and will do both
> CF and SD cards.
> They had a deal on Ultra 2 cards, which are fast enough for my purposes, so
> I got 4 gigs or Ultra 2 for the price of 2.19634 gigs of Extreme 3.
> And that poor 70mm lens found a home.
>
> It was so happy it flared.
> Anyway, I am wondering if it is a flare or some sort of weird phosphorescent
> dream created by the picture tube?
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/flare70.html
>
> There was on hell of a hot spot on the screen in the center of the blasted
> out bit.
>
> K10D, DA 70mm LTD lens, f4.5, 1/125 second, iso 400
>
You suck.

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Re: PESO - Da Bear

2007-02-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/27/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check out
>
> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with *ist D,
> 600mm f4.0 FA & 1.4X-L convertor on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk King Cobra
> head.
> 1/800 @ f5.0.
>
Ken, when are you going to learn?  Next time you post a bear shot
similar to this one your technical info should read:
"Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska during a fall snowstorm with
*ist D, 50mm f1.4 FA hand held.  1/800 @ f5.0."

Wonderful photo, BTW.

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Re: OT: Photographing Lincoln

2007-02-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/28/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We go for the Garlic Festival.
>
Is that what they're calling it now?

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Re: OT - Happy Birthday to me major enablement

2007-02-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/28/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not to toot my own horn, but today is my birthday AND I got my bonus
> payout as well...  so instead of doing something sensible like investing
> it, I bought myself a major gift:
>
> OT because it does not have a Pentax badge on it
> http://tinyurl.com/2yvktl
>
You're building a coffee table, right?

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Re: March PUG IS UP

2007-02-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/1/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick Womer"
> Subject: Re: March PUG IS UP
>
>
> > What a great gallery!
> >
> > One of the things I love about the PUG is that most of
> > the photos are from people who never post on the PDML.
> > It would be fun to hear from them here.
> >
>
> It's the not posting here that gives them time to take pictures.
>
I hate it when the truth hurts.

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Re: NY Times Pic

2007-03-01 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/1/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/3/07, skye, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Looks great! I saw it online. Congrats :)
>
> Anyone got a link?
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/fashion/01Fitness.html
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Re: Favorite Carry-around Digital camera?

2007-03-02 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/2/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/3/07, Peter Jordan, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX2.
>
> Nearly - but no optical viewfinder? Pah!
>
Speaking of optical viewfinders (if you can call it that), how did the
750z work out?

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Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D

2007-03-02 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/2/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had a lot of product shots to do yesterday so while I was at it I
> nabbed this one of the Pentax K10D and lenses ...
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-K10D-kit.jpg
>
> larger:
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-K10D-kit-half.jpg
>
Would you look at that!  You suck, too.

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Re: curious

2007-03-02 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/2/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm somewhat surprised that there was no response to my post of a
> picture of a woman in what coucl be called an aniti-social environment.
> It's not unlike an Arbus pic, although not as well executed perhaps.
> Is the total silence due to the content or the execution? Or perhaps it
> never made it to the list. No big deal, just curious.
> Paul
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450&size=md
>
I saw it earlier, but didn't have time to respond.  My initial
reaction was "I wonder if Paul has more from this set he'd be willing
to show us?"  Whether or not it's technically any good is beyond me,
but I like it.  It's gritty.  The slice-of-life feel appeals to me.


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Re: OT -so how about a pano of moving objects ?

2007-03-02 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/2/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kenneth Waller"
> Subject: OT -so how about a pano of moving objects ?
>
>
> > Interesting photography - Panoramas of moving objects
> >
> > http://www.distavision.com/index.html
>
> Thanks Ken!!
> A friend of mine is a serious NASCAR nut. You've just shown me the perfect
> gift for him.
>
You should wear one of these when you give it to him:
http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/boringnascar/male

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Re: curious

2007-03-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/3/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was posed. This lady and I did a whole series of posed shots in a
> trailer park.
>
> I personally have no misgivings in regard to staging a photograph,
> although I don't want them to look posed.

That's fine by me.  Show us the rest of them?


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Re: OT -so how about a pano of moving objects ?

2007-03-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/3/07, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> > Me too. F1 is my main source of race viewing, especially since I can no
> > longer get the WRC.
> > Bring back the Trans Am & the Can Am!
>
> I don't know where you are, Kenneth, but if you're in the southeast US
> during racing season, you're welcome to come see SCCA races from the
> paddock with us (my brother and I).  Hell, if you don't watch out, we'll
> stick a pressure gauge and pyrometer in your hand and expect you to keep
> track of the tires. :-)
>
I used to watch club racing at Gateway International.  It has an 8
turn infield course.  For a short time we owned three cars, one of
which was a Miata.  Since we just had our first child the Miata wasn't
driven often.  I considered getting into spec Miata racing since it
was considered to be "affordable" racing.  Needless to say, after
crunching the numbers I came to the conclusion that if I did very well
during the season, didn't trash the car, and could find volunteers for
my crew, I might just break even.  Less the cost of setting up the
car, of course.  We sold the Miata.

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Re: OT -so how about a pano of moving objects ?

2007-03-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/3/07, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a spec class like Spec Miata, where there are big globs of evenly
> matched cars, you're /going/ to do body work regularly.  It's just the
> nature of the beast.  I've probably seen more seriously bent Spec Miatae
> than any other single class.
>
That's because the Miata guys are actually willing to race.  I had a
few connections at Chrysler who got me access to the infield at
Gateway on a regular basis.  We watched the races from the press booth
and hung out in the pit areas.  Lots of fun.  The small budget cars
were often the most fun to watch.  The fast, powerful, expensive cars
were boring.  Seeing a bunch Viper and Cobra owners taking it easy so
as to not trade paint gets old fast.  Gimme a field full of Ford
Escorts and Honda Civics anytime.

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Re: hi5 - Who's in?

2007-03-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/5/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roman wrote:
> > http://www.hi5.com/friend/profile/displayProfile.do?userid=1464592
> > Usu või mitte, aga see kutt on ka kurt, ja arvatavasti modell või siis
> > vähemalt tal on kõik eeldused selleks saada, nagu ka sinul.
> >
>
> WTF?

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Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I started
thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My thoughts
(the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Loveless"
> Subject: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys
>
>
> >A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
> > the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I started
> > thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My thoughts
> > (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
> > interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
> > keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
> > backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
> > Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
> > What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
> > system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?
>
> Yer smoking crack.
> Buy a view camera.

I see now that used Sinar F cameras really aren't that expensive.
God, you suck.

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:18 AM, William Robb wrote:
>
> >> A couple of days ago I was about two seconds away from plunking down
> >> the cash for a 645 and three lenses - 45, 75, and 150.  Then I
> >> started
> >> thinking about landscape photography and the zone system.  My
> >> thoughts
> >> (the horror) led me to consider the possibility of having 5
> >> interchangeable backs for N-2, N-1, N, N+1 and N+2.  In an effort to
> >> keep the expenditure about the same, plus a little more for the extra
> >> backs, I'd be looking at a Mamiya M645-Super or a Bronica 6x6 or 645.
> >> Anyone have any experience with these systems they could share?
> >> What do you think about having the extra backs to accomodate zone
> >> system exposure?  Or am I smoking crack?
> >
> > Yer smoking crack.
> > Buy a view camera.
>
> I'd have to agree with Bill on this. Carrying five interchangeable
> backs with my Hasselblad 500 (and there's no substantive difference
> in size or weight between the Hassy and the Pentax 645) would disable
> me from ever getting out into the landscape to do photography...

I don't see how that would be any heavier than packing a view camera
and 8 or 10 film holders along.  Or were you implying that I'm smoking
crack..

> Shoot on Ilford XP2 Super and bracket. Saves a huge amount of time
> and effort, massive amount of weight to carry, and has so much more
> latitude that you hardly need to bracket so much. Excellent grain and
> acutance too. Drop them off for C41 processing, forget about all that
> time in the darkroom swishing film around in chemistry...

I like XP2.  Good stuff.  But I also enjoy the darkroom very much.
I'll die with Dektol in my veins, thank you very much.  

You're probably right, though.  All those backs are most likely more
extra weight than I'd enjoy carrying for more than a mile or so.

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Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys

2007-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Loveless"
> Subject: Re: Pentax 645 vs. those other guys
>
>
>
> >
> > I see now that used Sinar F cameras really aren't that expensive.
> > God, you suck.
> >
>
> If you want a nice landscape camera, look at a Tachihara or one of the other
> wood field cameras. They don't have all the movements of a monorail, but
> most of that is lost in the field anyway.

I currently have a Crown Graphic, of which I've stripped all the
extras off.  No rangefinder, no viewfinder, no flash bracket, got rid
of the cable that runs to the shutter release on the body, etc.  I was
shooting polaroid film with it for a while.  When I get a darkroom put
together that will accomodate 4x5 it may come out of it's case again.

The medium format rig I'm envisioning is a compromise.  In an effort
to slim down my kit, I think that a 645 rig may be a decent solution.
Almost small enough for a walk around camera, suitable for a studio,
and almost big enough for landscapes.

While we're on the subject, two of the lenses I've chosen are the
75/2.8 and 150/3.5.  But an 80-160/4.5 would pretty much cover those
focal lengths with a bit of reduction in speed.  Anyone have any
issues with either of these lenses?

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Re: Friends of the PDML: Don Nelson

2007-03-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/10/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the best, IMM.
>
> Plus he makes a mean chile
>
> Good news Mark
>
Definitely one of the good guys.  And that chili is very mean.  It was
mean to me all the way home last year.  

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Tri-X in Dektol

2007-03-10 Thread Scott Loveless
Do any of you recall how a newspaper darkroom might have developed
Tri-X in Dektol?  From what I've read it would have been used 1+1 or
1+2 for a very short amount of time, 1.5 or 2 minutes, and then
immediately fixed (skipping the stop).

I recently acquired a bulk roll of Tri-X that's well past its
process-by date (thanks, Godders!) and need work around a slightly
higher than normal base fog.  The first test roll, shot at 400 and
souped in D-76 1+1, resulted in good acutance, but not enough exposure
to overcome the fog in the shadows.  So I'm looking at over-exposing
(IE 200 or so) and developing for a bit more contrast.  Plus, I have
this Dektol taking up space.

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Re: Tri-X in Dektol

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Anthony.  I seem to recall seeing Farmer's Reducer locally.
Just can't remember which shop.  Once I track it down I'll try it out.
 Thanks again.

On 3/11/07, Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forgot to mention that single bath Farmer's reducer goes off in just five
> or ten minutes so keep the constituent solutions separate until needed.
>
> Regards,
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Re: Tri-X in Dektol

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/10/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Try putting a little borax into the developer. 5Mule team is as good as
> any. I'm not sure how much or what it's going to do to the developer time.
> I't start with a tablespoon of borax in a pint of developer and go from
> there."
>
> I think you mean KBr, Potassium Bromide, don't you? Borate is an acelerator
> which will increase the fog level. Bromide is a restrainer which will help
> reduce the fog level. It doesn't take much, maybe 2 or 3 grams per liter.
> Otherwise, developing a couple rolls of fogged film in the diluted solution
> first will put a little KBr in the solution and cut the edge so to speak.
> We used to hot soup Plus-X and Tri-X in Dektol for 30 sec at 80*F, fix,
> rinse, and wet print back in the Navy days for RUSH assignments (ie, the
> ones for the Admirals wife!)
>
Thanks, Bill and Walt.  I'll give the KBr a try.  Just have to find
some first.  The local shops don't carry much more than the standard
dev chemicals.

I'm definitely going to try your "Admiral's Wife" method!  How was
that Dektol diluted?  Or was it?

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Re: [Fwd: Church Triathalon]

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
You might wanna buy more pizza than you originally planned.  

On 3/11/07, Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops - sorry about that - I meant to forward it but hit the wrong
> address book entry.
>
> - MCC
>
> Mark Cassino wrote:
> > In case you did not get this one also.
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Church Triathalon
> > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 8:17:57 -0800
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Mark and Pam:  Here's an excuse to play like a kid or bring nieces or
> > nephews!  Check out the details in the Bulletin and Spire.  March 17 is
> > the triathalon--bowling, skating or hiking and pizza!  $10 each.  E-mail
> > or call the church office to sign up. Nancy Johnson
> >
> >
>
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Re: Is this a good deal??

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/11/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Pentax ist SLR (film) camera with 28-90mm f3.5-5.6 Pentax autofocus lens.
> LNIB. Purchased 9/05, only 5 rolls taken (I've converted to 100% digital).
> Excellent compact, lightweight camera. Tiffen UV filter, camera strap, extra
> batteries included. Initial cost $395 (plus shipping). For sale at $125,
> shipping included in CONUS."
>
> This ad is on a site I frequent. I am not familiar with the ist film camera.
>
That sounds like a very good deal to me.  A LN- body at KEH is
currently priced at $254, which is a bit too high.  If your hands are
larger than average it may feel too small.  Get one of the battery
grips.  They make it much more comfy.

Download the user manual when you have a moment.  It's pretty much an
*istDS that takes film.

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Re: Is this a good deal??

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/11/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied. I have contacted the gent and am awaiting a
> reply.
> I have an istDL and a K10D. The only non DA lenses I have are SMC-M versions
> that I want to get rid of anyway.
> I figure it would be a nice backup camera to shoot color slides with. Our
> Camera Club still has a slide category that really goes wanting for entries,
> so I figure why not!
>
Hey, Walt.  The *ist's (just try and pronounce that) meter is
absolutely amazing.  If you're looking for super sharp slides, the
FA28-90 is probably not the best lens.  My sample is a bit soft for my
taste, though it's fine for print film.  If you can actually scrounge
up some decent glass for shooting slides I think you'll be pleased
with it.

Since you're already familiar with the *istDL, the *ist should be
second nature.  As others have stated, your M lenses will be almost
useless, since you can't stop them down for metering.  However, I've
found that screw mount lenses are pleasant to use.

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Re: Is this a good deal??

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
The camera has no aperture lever.  Thus, it can only meter M and K
lenses wide open.  e.g. If you have an M50/2, the camera will meter
for f2.  If you have the aperture ring set to f8, you'll be
underexposing significantly.  You can override the shutter speed, but
you'll have to calculate the exposure in your head.  Unlike the DSLR
cameras, there is no green button kludge.  Needless to say, shooting
with M and K lenses, or any lens without an 'A' setting, is
frustrating at best.  With screw mount lenses, though, simply put the
camera in Av and stop the lens down.  Works wonderfully.

I had mine up for sale a while back and put some pics online.
http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/Ist?authkey=KSoUlXda0tM

On 3/11/07, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott, can the M lenses be used in a strictly manual mode, or are you saying
> there is no mechanism in the ist to stop the lens down on the camera?
>
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Re: Is this a good deal??

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/11/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/11/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The camera has no aperture lever.  Thus, it can only meter M and K
> > lenses wide open.  --
>
> What.
>
> No lever.
>
> When did this happen.
>
Quiet, you.

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Re: Wish I had a

2007-03-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/11/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was shooting some basketball this weekend and REALLY coveted the pro
> shooters long 2.8 glass.  not to mention shutter speed but lets not go
> there.
> Anybody got a 70-200 ish 2.8 AF lens for sale?
>
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Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend

2007-03-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/12/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does
> one  put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I
> should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He
> was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But
> life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I
> had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as
> he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I
> shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a
> twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have
> chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is
> not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we
> all must accept. The photographs are here:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004
>
Heartrending.  Someone pass the tissue, please.

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Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-03-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/12/07, J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had 3 photos accepted into the gallery. They are all from
> filmWill send more when I have the timeJ
>
Congrats!  I submitted the leaf photo I posted a couple weeks ago. Not
expecting it to make it, I was rather surprised today to learn that it
had been accepted to the gallery.

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GFM headcount

2007-03-12 Thread Scott Loveless
Who's going?  I need a rough estimate.

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GFM headcount thus far

2007-03-14 Thread Scott Loveless
So far we have, in no particular order:
Paul Stenquist
Mat Maessen
Ann Sanfedele
David Savage
Bill Robb
Bob Sullivan and wife #1!
Marnie
Cotty
Cory Waters
David Brooks
Knarf
Bill Owens and Phyllis
Mark Roberts
Rick Womer
Norm Baugher
Doug Brewer
Cesar

A couple more who didn't respond directly (I'm assuming):
Don Nelson
Nico
Tom Reese and Susan

Any one else?  And did I add any names in error?  So far that's 23.

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