Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter
A British 'comedian' Edward Sidebottom (or something like that) release "the worlds longest comedy CD" its actually 90 minutes of comedy - there are separate bits in the left channel and right channel so you hear one routine with the balance all the way to the left and a different one with the balance all the way to the right. Cool, eh? That is techno-riffic. It is also kind of ironic, given a conversation I just had with my department head here at Alabama. He teaches a correspondence course on The Beatles, which, of course, begat a two-hour conversation. At some point I told him to remind his students that the Beatles put about 40 songs on their albums. When he looked at me kind of funny, I said that if you pan the records to the left what you hear is quite often different from what's going on to the right (aside from the virtually unavoidable drum and guitar bleed). "Drive My Car," for instance, has Ringo, Paul's funky bass, and John's stun-guitar to the left--all rhythm section--while a lead guitar (George?) and a lead piano (Paul?) riff alongside a cowbell. The vocals (John and Paul) are then double-tracked, but the vocals on the left are lower and slightly behind, creating a wonderful echo effect. Martin's experimentation with I-believe-nascent stereophonic sound, created a "song" for each ear, which, when combined, created the "master song." Man, I never get tired of talking about those guys. Even Clarence, the fifth Beatle. Lance . . .
Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter
At 03:38 PM 1/15/99 -0600, you wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Geffry King wrote: On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided album? And what is it called? "Monty Python's Matching Tie and Handkerchief." Side 3 was a hidden track on Side 2; the two spirals were interwoven so that, when you dropped the tone arm, you never knew which "side" you'd get. I think Rhino did something similar with a Henny Youngman album, of which I was once the proud owner. Jeff Miles of Music mail order http://www.milesofmusic.com FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.
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At 04:17 PM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance Davis wrote: Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a reason why record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with Side 4? Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable? The answer: so you could automagically play two following one and three following four. Side three following two required manual intervention. On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided album? And what is it called? Didn't Graham Parker have a three sided album? Parkerilla, perhaps? I bet he did it just to be difficult. Jeff Miles of Music mail order http://www.milesofmusic.com FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.
Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter
johnny winter had a three-sided record long agobelieve it is called second winter but i could be wrong about that
Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter
Bill Silvers wrote: Hey Geff, I'm right about that Joe Jackson BIG WORLD album too. Can I get a witness? You're right, Bill. I went to one of the concerts from which they assembled that album. The music was terrific, but it was a weird scene. The audience was asked not to clap or make any noise whatsoever at the end of the songs, not until the very last note had died out. Sort of live/not live. I also remember there being a technical difficulty that took some minutes to sort out, so Jackson told the audience to ask him questions. There were some takers, including somebody shouting, "Where's Graham?" (Maby, JJ's first bassist, not present) Jackson icily replied, "We don't discuss that." A few months later this three sided thing arrives . . . weird. Tom Smith
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Hey there, Geff King On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided album? And what is it called? That'd be Monty Python's Matching Tie and Handkercheif, no? Two separate grooves on side two allowed for 3 sides of comedy. I'm sure someone else has answered by now. There were also a few Mad Magazine promo 45's with multiple endings. The one groove split into three and the needle would take a 'random' ending each time. Lest you think that CDs ended all this nonsense. A British 'comedian' Edward Sidebottom (or something like that) release "the worlds longest comedy CD" its actually 90 minutes of comedy - there are separate bits in the left channel and right channel so you hear one routine with the balance all the way to the left and a different one with the balance all the way to the right. Cool, eh? Later... CK NP Silos - Cooler (hmmm) ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter
Geff King wrote: On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided album? And what is it called? I own a ONE sided album... it's Screaming Trees "Something About Today" EP If I recall correctly, the b-side has the words "Thank You" or something etched in it. Bob Soron added: "Monty Python's Matching Tie and Handkerchief." Side 3 was a hidden track on Side 2; the two spirals were interwoven so that, when you dropped the tone arm, you never knew which "side" you'd get. This reminds me of a old MAD Magazine 45 I have/had that had multiple endings to the song, and depending on how/where your needle hit the groove depended on which ending you got! (of course, I played this on the same Hi-Fi I recall stacking multiple records on for hours of listening enjoyment in my youth) Paul np: Long Ryders - Native Sons/10-5-60
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Geff King wrote: On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided album? And what is it called? I remember once owning a vinyl copy of Joe Jackson's "Big World," and I think that was a 3-sided album Does Genesis' "Three Sides Live" count? Or perhaps the whole album can be thrown out (good riddance) Paul np: Long Ryders - Native Sons/10-5-60 Ameritwang, you are so cool! Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter
At 08:46 AM 1/16/1999 Geff gave the answer: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Bob Soron wrote: "Monty Python's Matching Tie and Handkerchief." Side 3 was a hidden track on Side 2; the two spirals were interwoven so that, when you dropped the tone arm, you never knew which "side" you'd get. This is the one I had in mind, though Barry's post on 'puzzle records' is certainly valid, I guess. Same for the Genesis album. Hey Geff, I'm right about that Joe Jackson BIG WORLD album too. Can I get a witness? b.s. n.p. CMT Jammin Country "The truth ain't always what we need, sometimes we need to hear a beautiful lie." -Bill Lloyd
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Lance Davis wrote: Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a reason why record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with Side 4? Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable? The answer: so you could automagically play two following one and three following four. Side three following two required manual intervention. At one time most turntables came with a cheesy device called a record changer designed to give Linnies and other vinal purists the heebie jeebies. The spidle was about four or five inches tall and allowed you to stack lps above the currently playing record. When the tone arm got to the lead out groves it retracted, the next lp in the stack dropped to the spinning platter and the tone arm repositioned itself and plopped down over the lead in groves. Not too good for the record and the VTA was almost always off but convenient. Cheers...TG, feeling like an old timer np Roseanne Cash - The Wheel
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On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance Davis wrote: Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a reason why record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with Side 4? Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable? The answer: so you could automagically play two following one and three following four. Side three following two required manual intervention. On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided album? And what is it called? -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "The United States will collapse by 1980." --Timothy Leary, 1965 (15 years before the 1980 election)
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Geff: On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided album? And what is it called? Well, such things happened g. If I remember correctly, Moby Grape released a 3-sided job on "Grape Jam." It was a double album, but only three sides had music / grooves. The fourth was blank, smooth, a vinyl mirror. I didn't take the acid, *they* did g. -junior PS. Unless my memory is really failing me, it was that Grape album. Possibly it could have been another band
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Split Enz have a 3 sided album out at one point? I kinda remember one side had some weird laser drawing on it. Jim Don't think so Jim. Their first US release, TRUE COLORS was "laser-etched", you're right. Multiple kinda blocky rainbowy "etching" on the record surface. b.s. npimh "Shark Attack" god bless the Finn brothers...
Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter
Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a reason why record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with Side 4? Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable? I believe this had to do with the old "record changer" style turntables - you stacked records at the top of the spindle and the next one dropped on the stack as the last one finished . . . with the 1-4/2-3 arrangement, you could stack your 2 x LP set and play 1 2, then flip it play 3 4. I may be wrong about this, but it's a decent explanation. John Magee
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Howdy, Dern. I thought I'd beat Weisberger to the punch for once... I'm getting slow in my "old" age... g Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Saw an Earle CD in the store the other day I ain't ever seen before. It was called "Shut Up and Die Like an Aviator," and seemed to be a live recording, but I don't think the cover was very definitive about that. [Matt Benz] Live, heroin era, and not real great. Voice is shot...
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Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 14-Jan-99 RE: Steve Earle/old vinyl/H.. by Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] called "Shut Up and Die Like an Aviator," and seemed to be a live recording, but I don't think the cover was very definitive about that. [Matt Benz] Live, heroin era, and not real great. Voice is shot... What Matt said. This record fulfilled his contract with MCA around 1991 and has been out of print for a few years. Carl Z.
