Re: CSNeed help in dosing my dog
Judy writes: I apologize to everyone for posting my dog problems, this is probably not appropriate on this list. No apologies necessary, Judy. Whether for people, pets, livestock or plants, the application of CS is on topic. Hope something works. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthanks everyone!
Lori, Welcome... WRT nebulizing, previous posts by others have recommended the purchase of an ultrasonic humidifier made by Vicks (Model V5100) which costs about $42. The output of this humidifier is more than most nebulizers, according to posts on this list. I just purchased one today, but haven't tried it yet. You must remove the charcoal filter, otherwise you will filter out the cs. I am an ex-smoker (3 packs a day). Trying to quit is extraordinarily difficult for some people. It took me fifteen years to finally quit completely. But start now to decrease the amount you smoke by setting little boundaries. Big changes are most likely to fail. I forced myself to stop smoking at work by telling everyone I had quit smoking (of course I had reduced my smoking at work by quite a bit before I did thisg and this was back when you could still smoke at work). Then, of course I smoked like crazy when I got home. But gradually I kept adding small boundaries, and then I told my wife I was quitting (she also smoked). I had failures, but I praised myself for how much I had accomplished when I relapsed as opposed to viewing it as a failure. There were many evenings I went to the local quickie mart and bought a pack of cigarettes, smoked one and through the rest away. Even so, I was so much better off than when I used to smoke 3 packs a day. Quitting smoking was the most difficult thing I have ever done. I had to do it gradually, because I have such a rebellious nature; but, I haven't smoked for at least 8 years, and cannot stand even the slightest smell of them and I never miss smoking now. I am not, however, a rabid reformed smoker. I know how hard it is. Good luck, Craig Lori wrote: Thank you so much everyone for your advice about CS and my sinus and bronchitis problems! I found it to be very interesting reading material. I look forward to learning more by being apart of this group. Thanks again! Lori -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSintro
Hello Lori, Saturday, December 15, 2001, 10:38:07 PM, you wrote: L Hello! L My name is Lori. I am new to the list and just signed up tonight. L What brought colloidal silver to my interest is the fact that some of my friends have AIDS and while searching the internet for a cure, colloidal silver was mentioned by 2 homosexual men as being L a life saver for them. As stated by someone else, the Beck protocol has shown extraordinary results. Two points on it though. 1) You MUST place the electrodes DIRECTLY over the blood vessels. PLACEMENT IS CRITICAL! A friend of mine was getting minimal results in treating Lyme disease, until I stressed this point to her. She was also getting sore spots where she placed the electrodes. After carefully placing them, the sore spots vanished in a few days, and her results were dramatically different. 2) You MUST be VERY careful of any drugs that you consume when on the protocol, as well as some foods! While many have hads no problems whatsoever, I believe that their electrode placement was off a bit as well. PLEASE research this protocol fully before utilizing it!! L I, on the other have am healthy for the most part all except for maybe a sinus problem and I do smoke about 2 packs of cigerettes a day so I do also have chronic broncitis. L I'm hoping to find out If I can still take colloida silver to enhance my health and/or as a prevention supplement? L Looking forward to reading all your posts, L Lori York As others have mentioned, quitting smoking is a great idea. But, unless they have been through it, like Terry, they have no idea what they are saying. I, personally, used to get bronchitis all of the time, as well as sinusitus. About every 6 to 8 weeks. And yes, I smoke cigarettes (my only vice). But, since using colloidal silver on a nearly daily basis, I have pretty much cleared up that problem. I have been to the doctors office 1 time in 10 years now, and thta was because I was travelling all of the time and away from my remedies. Another thing that I use is Cat's Claw (uncaria tomentosa). I buy the bulk powder, and use 1 big tablespoon to a glass teapot. The properties of this herb are astounding, and I highly suggest it for anyone with AIDS, cancer, etc. Due to its highly anti-inflammatory properties, it brings rapid relief from a sinus infection or bronchitis. It is also has antibacterial, antifungal, and antiviral properties. I have drank, when sick, 3 pots of this a day, and it brings rapid relief. I also nebulize colloidal silver as needed, and use a drinking straw to flood my sinuses when needed. The teapots claim to hold 8, 6-ounce cups. I use distilled water when making it. The brand of Cat's Claw I use is from the Frontier Co-Op. The have a website that you can order from. Actually, I get mine from a local Co-Op ( a true, non-pofit outfit that has been around since 1970) and end up paying half of what Frontier charges its own members! Unfortunately, our Co-Op does not have a web presence at this time. Oh, the Cat's Claw is the powdered form, and not the cut and sifted variety. As for colloidal silver, I drink 16 ounces some days, 4 ounces other days, and none at all sometimes too. No real method to my madness. When sick, I would drink a gallon a day at times. But, I haven't been sick in a very long time. -- Best regards, Solar -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSthanks everyone!
In article 3c1c6a41.ae4e0...@itsmyplace.com, Craig Chamberlin c...@itsmyplace.com wrote: Quitting smoking was the most difficult thing I have ever done. I had to do it gradually, because I have such a rebellious nature; but, I haven't smoked for at least 8 years, and cannot stand even the slightest smell of them and I never miss smoking now. I am not, however, a rabid reformed smoker. I know how hard it is. I was unable to quit when I was smoking a pack a day of Marlboro reds, but on the advice of a friend I switched to an additive-free brand (American Spirit, etc.) for a few weeks and then quit cold turkey. I was miserable for a day and a half, and then it became bearable. I've been smoke-free for 5.5 years. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSole bob-making the colloidal silver
How can one order this, is the colloedal silver easy to make? and is this the best one to buy, I am not a chemist, need something simple but good. Thanks J.C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSole bob-making the colloidal silver
Hi J.C. I just recently purchased the Ole Bob and am totally satisfied with it. It's a no brainer to operate, works from either AC or DC, current limited with auto shut off. Plus with the built in stirrer you can't get much better. Get the canning jar model, I use helmans mayonaise jars, 16 and 32 Oz and it fits perfectly. Go to www.silverpuppy.com for more info and to purchase. T. Corbett --- flyingiron...@aol.com wrote: How can one order this, is the colloedal silver easy to make? and is this the best one to buy, I am not a chemist, need something simple but good. Thanks J.C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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CS Gang, Here is a good hoax virus site URL. http://vil.nai.com/VIL/hoaxes.asp Check here first before opening, or reacting to, a reported virus. Check with Google.com search engine for more virus/hoax sites. Just plug in. virus+hoax+sites ...(include the plus signs)...and Google.com will bring up dozens of good sites to check. Be well. Tom Bassett tb...@carroll.com McAfee - AVERT.url Description: Binary data
Re: CSargyria
Argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing colloidal silver protein. Cutis 2000 Nov;66(5):373-4 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMedlist _uids=11107524dopt=Abstract This study has doubtless been discussed here on this list. Would someone mind summarizing the study and the conclusions the users of CS have drawn for themselves? Does anyone know the type of silver product used by the patient in this article? Thanks -- Hilary (using CS for Lyme) Dear Hilary, CSP is NOT Colloidal Silver, adn real CS doesn`t cause argyria. Been using it for 6 years now, and I`m still as pink as a piggy. No smurfs here... Love, Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed help in dosing my dog
Julie, Hopefully you make your own CS. Definately use it orally topically on Dozer. Give him 3-4 ccs. orally 2 x daily. I recommend that you not let vet give him antibiotics except in life or death situation. You will see an improvement in staph fungus in a few days after applying CS to the areas at least twice a day. CS will also build up his immune system and should eventually undo the damage done by the antibiotics. Nancy... - Original Message - From: David Judy Dufresne jdufres...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:21 PM Subject: Re: CSNeed help in dosing my dog Hi Julie, Dozer is 11 months old. He is on a raw diet with numerous supplements to boost his immune system. I got him at 6 months of age, he had all his vaccines except rabies at that time. I took him for his first vet visit the next day, he had a staph skin infection on his neck, the vet put him on antibiotics and gave him a rabies vaccine. Ever since he has continued to have patches of hair loss with red dry skin on his neck and upper chest with few small spots on his front leg. It does not itch him at all. My vet has given him antibiotics 2 or 3 times for this and antifungal shampoo and spray. He sent a hair sample to a lab for fungal analysis which was negative, he scraped for mites and that was negative. He finally said young dogs can have skin problems which they outgrow. Dozer has never had fleas and is an indoor dog. He also has very bad yeast problems in all his wrinkles and his ears. I have learned a lot since this all started about vaccines and wish I had known all this before. I have had a few people suggest vaccinosis and homeopathic treatment. I feel like I have tried everything I can think of and just don't know where to go from here. I apologize to everyone for posting my dog problems, this is probably not appropriate on this list. Judy in NY -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSargyria
Hi Hilary, Evidently you are new to the list as evidenced by the fact that you missed the key word used in the article and that was silver protein. Stay away from any CS labeled more that 20 or 30 ppm as they probably have a silver compound in them, and that is where the problem lies. Electro colloid as poeple on this list make will not cause argyria!! You would drown in it first. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMy Arthritis...Still
Marshall Dudley wrote: Mother Teresia had a very healthy mind, yet an unhealthy body. Many spirits choose an unhealthy body as a learning experience. Rife's research showed that inside the cell, microscopically, there are 16 internested deeper levels of reality,structured and organised.. The microscopic visualization of any one level is by energetic focussing with a particular frequency of light. Each cell is patterned and functions dynamically to the internested depths of virtual reality, that is, it also functions hyperspatially where Mind and Thoughts are involved in these living virtual strata . Externally, the human system manifests 7 layers of etheric sheath enclosing the body : 3 of which are near the body surface and are visible [Photonic] and the outer 4 layers are invisible [Gravitonic]. This etheric or auric web is intangible but has been scientifically and clairvoyantly proven.The biological system stores electromagnetic energies but the storing of malefic oscillatory energies produce cracks [mild] and holes [severe] in the auric web which is a receiver, a transmitter and a resonator. Pathological oscillations do not resonate with the Vital Force in the body by generating morbid Thought-Forms which are the etheric parasites and cockcroaches causing ill-health. At the photonic plane, Mother Theresa was sickly because of retention of enviromental noxious oscillations and she succumbed but virtually, at the gravitonic plane, she is her saintly self. .Dr. Bernard Jensen said: THE BODY IS THE MIND'S SHADOW. The body follows the mind like a shadow, always coming along, always turning where we turn, stopping when we stop. That's why I always say good health starts with the mind. Mother Theresa left her people in Calcutta, India, in good spiritual health, after an eventful earthly sojourn. I asked how dividing a whole into parts, then eating all of them could be less healthy than eating it without dividing. Your dividing the whole into parts is more than mere addition,multiplication,division, and subtraction of the combinations of the atoms and molecules and is breaking into the chain of the universe.It is not a question of finding new elements,but of being able to use energy and matter by letting Nature do the atom splitting for us. You divide matter by severing the molecular links, thereby causing disresonance along the chain that holds the cycle of the universe together and only to have these joined to non-resonating links elsewhere, resulting in change in wave-lengths or frequencies. The fragmented parts of the whole with altered oscillation will lose their healing properties. The parts are observed to be optically inactive under Polarised Light with the loss of vitality. Simply put, the ingenious biochemist may imitate an egg by creating one using scientific technology by putting parts together. But he or she cannot hatch it. This is the subtle difference. The human body is a cohesive materialization of vibrational states of Sound, Light and matter. These are infoldings of electromagnetism. This cohesive force pervades the universe and is the life force that confers the healing quality in wholesome food. With regards Lew - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:41 AM Subject: Re: CSMy Arthritis...Still FHLew wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: You can't have a healthy mind in a sick body. Nutrition is not the entire solution, but it must be part of the entire solution. To have healthy minds, we must have healthy bodies. To have healthy bodies,we must make the While I agree with most of what you write, I think that concept is rather simplistic. Mind is only one part of the equation. For example I feel that Mother Teresia had a very healthy mind, yet an unhealthy body. Many spirits choose an unhealthy body as a learning experience. To have healthy bodies,we must make the right food and lifestyle choices. It's that simple. If you can see the need for a healthier lifestyle and balanced food regimen in your life, you know the next step. You have to find out what you need to do. Wisdom is putting feet on knowledge. Knowledge comes from sitting at the feet of wisdom. I have great respect for this world- renowned teacher of nutritional sciences - Dr. Bernard Jensen. He taught me that removing the few millimeters of the skin covering of the potato will lead to a great loss of organic Potassium which is so essential for a healthy heart; That is one reason I eat the whole potato whenever I can. that pouring away the supernatant whey in yogurt will lose the organic Sodium which maintains and preserves youth and the egg-yolk if eaten raw or half-boiled but not fried, will not raise the cholesterol level,because it is
Re: CSNeed help in dosing my dog
I want to thank everyone for all their help and suggestions in treating my Dozer with cs. I am very grateful and hopefully this will be the answer to my prayers. Again, thank you. Judy in NY -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSole bob-making the colloidal silver
Hi all, Ole Bob, definitely one of the best web sites I have visited for a long time. You are a fine example of a fearless friend, thank you for setting a pace that only the brave would dare to follow. www.silverpuppy.com Namaste, Leo. Theodore Corbett wrote: Hi J.C. I just recently purchased the Ole Bob and am totally satisfied with it. It's a no brainer to operate, works from either AC or DC, current limited with auto shut off. Plus with the built in stirrer you can't get much better. Get the canning jar model, I use helmans mayonaise jars, 16 and 32 Oz and it fits perfectly. Go to www.silverpuppy.com for more info and to purchase. T. Corbett --- flyingiron...@aol.com wrote: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Need help in dosing my dog
CS will also build up his immune system and should eventually undo the damage done by the antibiotics. Nancy, This is the first I have read about cs being an immune system booster. What great info. Thank you, Judy
Re: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
Sufficient to burn the skin off! It was supposed to burn the proud flesh off - but only sting for about 15 minutes... So it had to be a good strength. The son I had then is the one that has just produced my latest grand daughter... so it happened a few years ago - 33 I think.. Judith. One has to look at the strengths. Just like H2O2, 3% is harmless, but 35% will burn your skin off. What concentration did the doctor use. I wonder what concentration is used in the eyes. Marshall Judith Thamm wrote: You know, in 1968 when my older son was born, the dr couldn't wait so he sliced me through so the birth canal was wider and the baby came more quickly. Where I was stitched up, I developed proudflesh. When I went back to the dr he put silver nitrate on it. For 24 hours that stuff burned - I didn't sleep at all until the pain stopped - I couldn't sit down and even lying down was little help. It was a nightmare - and they are going to put that in a baby's eyes!!! How horrifying! Judith. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:34 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration' It appears that silver nitrate is being used again on babies: http://www.parenthoodweb.com/articles/phw1380.htm http://www.sangfroid.com/babypix/plan.html http://www.lamaze.com/baby/firsthour/articles/0,9474,167862_80951,00.html From what I recall silver nitrate was discontinued in the 70's due to pharmacutical companies pressing for the use of patented antibiotics which would earn them more money. Sometime (I believe in the late 80's in Knoxville), a hospital was sued because a baby went blind because the antibiotic was not broad enough spectrum to kill something it was exposed to in the birth canal. At the trial they presented evidence that silver notrate would have killed it and that the only reason they stopped using silver nitrate was to increase profits by using a patented antibiotic. I remember thinking at the time it serves them right, even though I knew nothing of CS at the time. I did not realize they had started using it again until a little while ago when I was researching the history. Since they now offer both, my suspicion is that they are doing this to cover themselves against another law suit, but tell the parents that the silver nitrate will burn the eyes to get them to use the other as much as possible. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Reid My chemistry is also pretty limited. I think you have me mixed up with someone elses postings. From what I gather, silver nitrate is dangerous because very small amounts contain a lot of silver ...and... silver nitrates are corrosive to body tissues and leave black stains. Even still, until fairly recently, it was used in virtually all new born babies eyes to prevent infections. Ken Reid Harvey wrote: Ken, Also, back to my limited chemistry, I would like to know why it is that one would have to isolate one element in a simple compound as the culprit in a health problem. For example with silver nitrate why does the problem have to be either the silver or the nitrate. I think the problem is probably the compound. Another example: it's been stated here that gold chloride is highly toxic, yet gold metal is beneficial and chlorine is a lot less toxic. You have a good point here, although gold chloride is not a good example since chlorine is deadly toxic.A good example would be hydrogen cyanide, HCN, which is deadly toxic, yet hydrogen, carbon and nitrogen alone are totally harmless. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSole bob-making the colloidal silver
T Corbett Which generator did you get ? the site shows two , one for $75.00 and the other for $125.00 only difference is the constant stirring. Thanks J.C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS more on bacteria
Greetings Extract from:Nature November 29, 2001;414:555-558 The organisms are obviously quite good at staying alive since they withstand invading germs, bacteria-killing antibiotics and various environmental shifts such as dietary changes. This study suggests that an occasional change of wardrobe is one way they do it. One posting from another Complementary Health List asked: When Hahnemann talks about the syphilitic and gonorrheal miasms , he talks about the taint... In today's world where we have antibiotics to kill off at least these two bacteria, is the taint still resident ? My answer is yes. The growth and development of an organism is an intimate part of the organism 's genetic heritage. The latter's expression is the result of successful evolution of the community of which the organism is a part. The loss of that ability to adequately adjust to the morbid fluctuations within the backdrop of the solar system and planet earth,results in unbalancing of the various genetic expressions. An illness followed by homeostatic recovery is a normal body reaction without any entrapment of pathological energies. When the unbalance is prolonged,the retention of the trapped morbid energies progresses deeper. Its etiology,thus,has become deep-rooted and the resulting malady is the taint. Louis Pasteur,the French chemist,discovered germs during his experimentation on fermentation. His discovery was initially rejected but was later enthusiastically accepted when the one germ - one disease model was fashioned to order with its immense potential for commercial exploitation. In 1914, Dr Rosenow, Associate of the Mayo Foundation, the most eminent bacteriologist then, shattered the foundation of the serum and drug industries with the results of painstaking experimentation. The Rosenow experiments,verifing the conclusions of Becham,Rife and Naessens,showed that there exist no specific bacteria. The extant microbes or endobionts [Mucor racemosus Fresen and Aspergillus niger van Tiegham] are phasic microbes,which are always present and cannot be removed from the living cell. They are the genotypic and phenotypic variants with marked capacity to change their properties to ensure survival in an unpreditable environment. Microbial variation occurs selectively,modifying the microscopic,colonial,nutritional, biochemical,antigenic,pathogenic and drug sensitivity attibutes of the organism,when there is an alteration in the condition,nutrition and temperature of the enviroment. Little is known of the morphogentic manifestations in the microbial world till lately when the phenomenon of microbial resistance to orthodox treatment is observed in mainstream practice. Pasteur, in his death-bed, made the heretical statement: The bacteria are nothing, the terrain is everything. The following phases are easily seen in living blood under darkfield microscopy: Primitive phases [colloidal ] live in high alkaline pH Bacterial phases live in mild alkaline pH Viral Forms live in a strong acid pH 0 Another from the same List posted: Jakob Henle in his Pathological Examinations [1840] recognised,that the term miasm would lose the essence of his meaning if it wasn't brought into contact with the knowledge about parasitic diseases. My reply: Professor Dr Gunther Enderlein demonstrated that all microbes go through the same stages of their development in the organism: Colloid [ primitive phase ] Bacterial [ middle phase ] Fungus [end phase ] Dr. Royal Rife showed the transformation into the toxic viral phase. This phenomenon could not be seen under the ordinary light microscope. Rife's microscopic research revealed the classic 16 internested living virtual phases intracellularly. Each phase, when energetically focussed with a specific spectral frequency microscopically, shows a dynamically patterened and structured world of virtual reality. ** The moderator of the same list posted: All antibiotics do,usually, is to drive the ' taint ' or symptoms deeper into the body --- they may disappear for a while---but they always come back. The 'disappearance' of a particular germ from the culture does not mean that the germ is dead; it only became invisible due to its transformationin to an invisible form. That means,that the host organism is now in a cancerous state. - Dr. Karl Horst Poehlman Australia The endobionts are indestructible. and are demonstrated in the cyclic phases intracellularly. It is saddening to realise that truth is often dictated by consensus of opinions rather than by scientific