Re: CSCS and BYU again
Why would they be doing this? JBB Jason Eaton wrote: Reid: BYU lawyers have been very busy trying to have the study wiped from the face of the Earth. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: CSCS and BYU again Thanks to all for the links to the BYU studies, but it seems to me there should be a lot more to it. Upto about a year ago there was a site with a table that directly compared CS to five popular antibiotics. This was a very graphic comparison, CS clearly superior. Has this site been dismantled? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinjecting CS....
Jay, A surefire treatment for coldsores is to make CS right at the site of the coldsore for a minute or two. If it is in the corner of your mouth then place one rod touching either your hand or in your mouth, lips, or tongue. Wet the other rod and touch it to the cold sore area. It will tingle a bit. After a short while swop the connections around to reverse the polarity. Works for me. Tony Jay Ice wrote: I have a cold sore again, first time in months. HCV2 is a virus that sits on a nerve in the lip. CS has been known to kill virus' right? If I inject CS at 6 ppm will it kill the virus. Is there a particular spot I would have to inject it? Or right on the coldsore is fine? Any feed back would be such a great help like you would not have any idea. Jay P.S. I tried the icecube thing for 40 minutesif it works for you that is great, wish it were the same here...sigh. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS doesn't work ...
Dear Tom, I didn't mean to come across as a jerk. Sometime I do that without even realizing it. The point I was trying to make is that there is a big difference between saying colloidal silver has been proven to kill over 650 different pathogens or saying I believe that colloidal silver has been proven to kill over 650 different pathogens. Bold statements like that need to be qualified. I personally haven't seen the evidence to support the statement. If enough people repeat the quote, does it make it true? I don't think so. I could say the same thing about household bleach. It probably works better than CS for killing pathogens, but the statement is still speculation unless it is backed up with some kind of scientific study. The problem starts when the claims get convoluted with the testimonials. Someone will say; I've used colloidal silver to ward off colds, re-grow amputated heads and it gives me 15 percent better gas mileage. The Fed's move in and impose a bunch of regulations. This screws it up for the honest merchants and hinders the cause in general. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers, Best wishes, Andy
RE: CSCS doesn't work ...
Where to start hunting ?? EPARTMENT OF HEALTH HUMAN SERVICES Public Health Service National Institutes of Health Rocky Mountain Laboratories Hamilton, Montana 59840 (406) 363-3211 FTS (700) 322-8400 January 13, 1995 Dear Sir:* This is to inform you that we have received a sample (12 ml) of your colloidal silver (1,500 ppm) preparation and have evaluated its effectiveness in a preliminary pilot study against Lyme disease spirochete, Borrelia burgdorferi (B31) and against the relapsing fever agent, B. Hermsii (HS-1).* In both tests, BSK cultured spirochetes were treated with 150 and 15 ppm of colloidal silver. When examined 24 hours later, none of the treated cultures contained live spirochetes. Few spirochetes, all dead, were observed at 48 hours. Additional in vitro and in vivo studies are in progress and will be reported as soon as results become available. Sincerely yours, Willy Burgdorfer, Ph.D. Scientist Emeritus Rocky Mountain Laboratories Microscopy Branch Senior Staff Fellow Laboratory of Microbial Structure and Function WB/TGS:bk Tom G. Schwan, Ph.D. This is a given example of one disease that it is proven to kill These above given doctors should be good in helping to build an accurate list of C.S. beatable pathogens Regards, Alex -Original Message- From: Tom [mailto:tha...@ec.rr.com] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 9:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS doesn't work ... Andy, I was paying attention just fine, You wrote: __ Slow down Jay. I know someone once said that CS kills over 600 different pathogens. It has been quoted over and over by unscrupulous CS manufactures, but I don't think the statement has ever been qualified. The statement is probably true, but I've never seen references to the actual lab tests. It's most likely a bad marketing tool. When you see statements like KILLS OVER 600 DIFFERENT PATHOGENS on someone's web site, __ and put up these questions. __ Who made this study? When? Where? Where is it published? What strength of CS was used? What specific pathogens? Was a control group used? __ What does this sound like??? Is this a jedi mind trick or am I just twisting your words? You did this to me the first time I ever posted about CS and it gives the idea to everyone else, where is the proof, the validity. In your tone of how you come across you make the person posting feel they are making a mistake, and their judgment is flawed. Well yes they need to do some research, and if most people also did just some research into the harm of conventional medicine alot of doctors would be out of business. I emailed Dr.Leavitt some time ago and asked him about the study on CS and if he could send me some of the findings on the research, he emailed back saying while he'd like to, he couldn't but they would be publishing their findings in the near future in I believe he said the New England Journal of Medicine. I guess we'll just have to wait. So he had confirmed the study had been done and/or was ongoing, he also mentioned maybe I should look up another microbiologist that went on to a University in Colorado that was part of the study and is taking the study further. I am also trying to get myself a copy of the february 1923 British Medical Journal. I also personally know CS works so I don't need anybody to validate what I already know. I would rather be blue and healthy, than sick and dying under a doctors care that would be feeding me meds that for the most part while (possibly??) ridding me of one thing, would be definitely affecting me adversly in another way. One person turns a slightly light shade of blue compared to 250,000 people dying in a year at the hands of doctors. Get that, a quarter of a million people die at the hands of doctors in the US alone. While I feel bad about Rosemary Jacobs, what about all of those people that can't voice their discord about an unpleasant medical experience because, THEY'RE DEAD!!! 1 blue person 250,000 dead people (sorry dude there is no comparison) Look at it that way. And while the smallpox thing may have been OT it is right on when it comes to disinformation. image001.jpg
RE: CSozone machines,,
--- Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz wrote: It is my understanding that the normal cold corona ozone generating machines will only produce nitrous oxide when fed with moist air. Ozone produced for medical purposes (including dental caries treatment) should be fed with dry air, either by passing the air through moisture absorbing crystals or by heating it. Ivan I have now modified the Ellis Ozone process so that it has a gravity feed of distilled water. Ellis process does not use an arc to create ozone, instead it uses a ozone quartz bulb in the distillation process where the steam is ozonatated upon condensation. The advantages of using this water for CS production is that is distilled twice before going through the CS process. The improvement of Wallmart distilled water after second distillation is that it registers about 12 % less conductive than the original DW. I dont see any problem with using ozonated distilled as a source of CS production, in fact it should be a better product. For those that cannot fathom what they call my rambling, about my CS process, which is current limited by tank resonance, let me add the following fact: as the CS solution becomes more conductive less current is drawn from the source. In fact more DC current is across the cells, then the AC current that goes in. I have only substituted a rectification process for DC in the middle of a process that normally is only AC, and that is a tank resonance, which has the property of resonant rise of amperage: meaning more amperage exists inside the circuit then is actually inputed. Tonight I staterted a single cell with this water. It initially is DC current limited to 1.08 ma across the cell and reads 1.04 ma @ 18 volts on startup. Tommorow about 12 hours later it will read only 2 to 3 volts across the cell, at a value close to 1.08 ma. The voltage in such a system constantly lowers itself so that whatever the initial setting of current limiting is chosen by variac, it can never exceed that value, because it is cuurent limited by the impedance of the outside components on either side of the cell. A schematic of the binary resonance circuit that delivers both voltage rise and current rise: depending on the resistance of the midpoint load is at; Binary Resonant Tank Schematic http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRS/BRT.jpg The GREAT expenses here are that large induction coils, employing some 40,000 ohms impedance are on either side of the CS cell, but with capacities having identical impedances in series, this serves to regulate the voltage in such a way as to continually lower it to the lowest possible value that the C.L. setting will provide. Sincerely HDN = Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizing CS for SARS Redux
Hi Catherine, You replied: It doesn't sound like a silly idea at all. When you state high ppm how high are you thinking? Under the circumstance, the highest possible. For example, push a unit like the Silverpuppy to give a very pale straw color. This gives the strongest ion concentration I have seen, and it has a built-in indicator to tell the concentration. This would give the maximum effect possible, and there would be no confusion or possibility of mixing glasses of plain dw with the cs, which could lead to disaster. You need good quality control, and this provides a way to verify it instantly. The stuff I make at 277uA/sq.cm has no metallic aftertaste, which some might object to. I have two friends who now refuse to take cs because they had a bad experience in the beginning. With the pale straw cs, my guinea pig and I both sense a brief flash of sweetness as it enters the mouth. It is the only stuff I have made that does this, and it may be another indication to confirm the quality. But it may also have something to do with the dw, which is medium quality WallMart. Afterwards, it is very pleasant to keep in your mouth for ten minutes. I don't think you will get any objection from the staff or the patients, especially when they see the results. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and BYU again
Reid: BYU lawyers have been very busy trying to have the study wiped from the face of the Earth. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: CSCS and BYU again Thanks to all for the links to the BYU studies, but it seems to me there should be a lot more to it. Upto about a year ago there was a site with a table that directly compared CS to five popular antibiotics. This was a very graphic comparison, CS clearly superior. Has this site been dismantled? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS doesn't work ...
Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59182.html RE: CSCS doesn't work ... From: carpae.diem (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 23:18:40 Hi, Do you know your single post was large enough to trigger a digest mailing? Your post was in Microsoft Word. The preamble alone was 134 lines of Microsoft header information. Your post took 47,105 bytes of disk storage. This was sent to all list members. The words you intended to convey are hopelessly garbled and impossible to read in a browser. I can read it only when I use the editor I wrote to look at the actual file. I don't know if other browsers can cope with Microsoft Word format, but if not, then you just wasted your time posting it. Can you please find some other editor to post? There are many fine, plain ascii text editors available for free. Microsoft's goal is to use up as much cpu cycles and disk space as possible. Their tags are horrible bloated and highly repetitive. They can often increase the size of a document by a factor of one hundred or more. Let Microsoft convince those who do not know any better that they need to buy a new computer, even though a plain 100MHz pentium is more than fast enough for email. But keep their html stuff away from the list. Please. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS doesn't work ...
Excellent validation, Carpe, Rocky Mountain Labs appears to be quite legitimate http://www.niaid.nih.gov/dir/labs/rmlmb.htm and makes for a nice addition to the BYU papers. Wonder where the 1500 ppm CS came from. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSozone machines,,
Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59183.html RE: CSozone machines,, From: Harvey Norris Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 23:32:50 Harvey, I briefly looked at your resonant tank. Whenever I am working on a new circuit concept, I find it useful to simulate it in SPICE first. This gives all the voltages and currents in the circuit, the frequency response, the transient response, the sensitivity to component tolerances, and it allows me to quickly make changes to improve the operation that would take much longer to do in hardware. Since it is a mathematical model, there is no danger of destroying valuable hardware if an error is made. Most good engineering groups will not commit a new design to production until it has been extensively analyzed in SPICE. Many versions of SPICE are available. MicroCap from Spectrum-Soft has a student version that is limited to 50 nodes, which is more than enough for most work. You can download it here: http://www.spectrum-soft.com/ When you can get your concept to work in SPICE, you can be reasonably sure it will work in actual hardware. If it won't work in SPICE, you can be certain it won't work in actual hardware. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Mailbox reply
The face of it would probably flatten if it were not rotated. There's a whole 'thing' about rotating electrodes I ran across a while ago. Something about interrupting or expanding boundary layers. Lost it somewhere though. Ode At 01:30 PM 5/19/2003 -0700, you wrote: Most electroplating electrodes come as flat bars. They erode into a V shape... points go faster than the edges---Ken What might happen with a globular-shaped electrode? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMailbox reply
Probably not ..unless you give a lot of CS away like many people do. There's one guy in Indiana that runs a rail yard. He keeps his gen going 24/7...free CS to anyone with a bottle. 90+ gallons so far. I have a friend in Hillsboro that gives away 20 gallons a month. Ode At 03:34 PM 5/19/2003 -0500, you wrote: This is great for you guys selling 1000s of gal of CS, Do you really think I will use up the 6 inches of#12 wire in my life time? for my own uses. (I am 67) Sincerely Yours, Hank http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.htmlhttp://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.htmlhttp://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html - Original Message - From: mailto:coyote...@earthlink.netOde Coyote To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: Re: CSMailbox reply -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinjecting CS....
Most people just dab a bit of CS directly on the sore before it emerges..as soon as they can feel it coming on..and it never emerges into a blister or sore. Ode At 11:35 PM 5/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: I have a cold sore again, first time in months. HCV2 is a virus that sits on a nerve in the lip. CS has been known to kill virus' right? If I inject CS at 6 ppm will it kill the virus. Is there a particular spot I would have to inject it? Or right on the coldsore is fine? Any feed back would be such a great help like you would not have any idea. Jay P.S. I tried the icecube thing for 40 minutesif it works for you that is great, wish it were the same here...sigh. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSozone machines,,
Silver I oxide [Ag2O] is the normal oxide of silver. Silver II oxide [ AgO] is formed when ozone reacts with silver. Silver III oxide [Ag2O3] has been obtained in an impure state by anodic oxidation of silver. Page 2006 Van Nostrands Scientific Encyclopedia 5th edition So, what happens if the water you are using has a lot of dissolved ozone gas in it? Ode At 11:31 PM 5/19/2003 -0700, you wrote: --- Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz wrote: It is my understanding that the normal cold corona ozone generating machines will only produce nitrous oxide when fed with moist air. Ozone produced for medical purposes (including dental caries treatment) should be fed with dry air, either by passing the air through moisture absorbing crystals or by heating it. Ivan I have now modified the Ellis Ozone process so that it has a gravity feed of distilled water. Ellis process does not use an arc to create ozone, instead it uses a ozone quartz bulb in the distillation process where the steam is ozonatated upon condensation. The advantages of using this water for CS production is that is distilled twice before going through the CS process. The improvement of Wallmart distilled water after second distillation is that it registers about 12 % less conductive than the original DW. I dont see any problem with using ozonated distilled as a source of CS production, in fact it should be a better product. For those that cannot fathom what they call my rambling, about my CS process, which is current limited by tank resonance, let me add the following fact: as the CS solution becomes more conductive less current is drawn from the source. In fact more DC current is across the cells, then the AC current that goes in. I have only substituted a rectification process for DC in the middle of a process that normally is only AC, and that is a tank resonance, which has the property of resonant rise of amperage: meaning more amperage exists inside the circuit then is actually inputed. Tonight I staterted a single cell with this water. It initially is DC current limited to 1.08 ma across the cell and reads 1.04 ma @ 18 volts on startup. Tommorow about 12 hours later it will read only 2 to 3 volts across the cell, at a value close to 1.08 ma. The voltage in such a system constantly lowers itself so that whatever the initial setting of current limiting is chosen by variac, it can never exceed that value, because it is cuurent limited by the impedance of the outside components on either side of the cell. A schematic of the binary resonance circuit that delivers both voltage rise and current rise: depending on the resistance of the midpoint load is at; Binary Resonant Tank Schematic http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRS/BRT.jpg The GREAT expenses here are that large induction coils, employing some 40,000 ohms impedance are on either side of the CS cell, but with capacities having identical impedances in series, this serves to regulate the voltage in such a way as to continually lower it to the lowest possible value that the C.L. setting will provide. Sincerely HDN = Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and BYU again
But probably not because the study is not valid Ode At 12:34 AM 5/20/2003 -0700, you wrote: Reid: BYU lawyers have been very busy trying to have the study wiped from the face of the Earth. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: CSCS and BYU again Thanks to all for the links to the BYU studies, but it seems to me there should be a lot more to it. Upto about a year ago there was a site with a table that directly compared CS to five popular antibiotics. This was a very graphic comparison, CS clearly superior. Has this site been dismantled? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS for cold sores, was Re: CSinjecting CS....
My husband gets cold sores (for some weird reason he can no longer feel them coming on, so can't pre-treat them) and he has very successfully stopped them in their tracks by using a q-tip to dab on a mix of 10% DMSO and 90% CS. BTW, nuts, chocolate, and whole grains contain a lot of the amino acid (forgot the name of it) that stimulates the herpes virus. paula - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net Most people just dab a bit of CS directly on the sore before it emerges..as soon as they can feel it coming on..and it never emerges into a blister or sore. Ode -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Maibox Replies #1
Ref : http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59155.html Re: CS Maibox Replies #1 From: Ode Coyote Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 12:41:22 Comments on the comments from silverpuppy Discard the hype about faster and better. Everyone makes that claim. I try not to engage in hype..but it's hard to do that and still engage in promotion sometimes. Yes, unfortunately you have to have some warm fuzzy words. When I see faster, I need to know how much faster. When I see better, I want to know why. If this information were provided, it would be helpful in making a comparison. Without concrete information to go on, the warm fuzzy words have little meaning and I skip them automatically. I agree that 12 ga wire is stronger, easier to clean, and easier to handle. It makes no difference in swapping from side to side to equalize wear as they claim. The reason to swap electrodes [between batches] for even wear is due to the fact that silver is donated only by one electrode and you'll get longer life from the electrodes if one of them doesn't go away faster than the other. Polarity switching would do the same thing with a lot more circuitry. Absolutely true. I had trouble understanding what you meant, but after studying the picture of the pcb you provided, I came to the conclusion you may have terminals under the pcb to hold the wire. Then it finally made sense. It is very simple and easy to do. Sorry for the mistake. The 3.2 square inches is a generous amount of wetted area. Just to check their calculation, if the electrodes are 7 inches long, the total length of wire is 14 inches. 12 ga wire is 0.25 square inch per inch, so 14 inches of wire has an area of 3.5 square inches, not counting the bend at the bottom. So, their calculation is reasonable and probably correct. 7 is the total length...about 6.5 whetted. The current controls kick in at .94 to 1 ma. You can add that to your current density calculations. I think Trem uses about the same current. The U loop of 12 ga wire is what really sold me on your machine. This doubles the wetted area, has no sharp edges, and is strong enough to hold shape during handling. I use a W shape for the same reasons. Using 3.2 sq. in. for the wetted area and a current of 1 mA, your current density is 1e-3 / 3.2 = 312 uA/sq.in. This is very close to the 277 uA/sq.in. that gives such good results in my current setup. I lean towards idiot proof operation and personal use. I liked the simplicity and thought you put into the design. It is very elegant. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinjecting CS....
Take CS orally, and wet a kleenex with CS and hold on the sore for about 5 to 10 minutes when you first feel it comming on. I have not had a cold sore now for over 4 years with CS. Marshall Jay Ice wrote: I have a cold sore again, first time in months. HCV2 is a virus that sits on a nerve in the lip. CS has been known to kill virus' right? If I inject CS at 6 ppm will it kill the virus. Is there a particular spot I would have to inject it? Or right on the coldsore is fine? Any feed back would be such a great help like you would not have any idea. Jay P.S. I tried the icecube thing for 40 minutesif it works for you that is great, wish it were the same here...sigh. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for cold sores, was Re: CSinjecting CS....
sol wrote: My husband gets cold sores (for some weird reason he can no longer feel them coming on, so can't pre-treat them) and he has very successfully stopped them in their tracks by using a q-tip to dab on a mix of 10% DMSO and 90% CS. BTW, nuts, chocolate, and whole grains contain a lot of the amino acid (forgot the name of it) that stimulates the herpes virus. paula Sometimes nuts will cause that, especially peanuts. But in every case I have had it happen, the nuts did not sit well after eating them. I think the real culprit is that some mold was likely on the nuts, and I got hit with a little aflotoxin, which is a real immune system crippler. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for cold sores,...Sol
Are you sure imino acids stimulate HCV2 because I know l-lysine is an imino acid and it takes 2grams to prevent it taken daily. When I did my cleansing I stopped all vitamins, medication...then after my cleanse forgot to re-start the l-lysine and well here I am. Jay - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:04 AM Subject: CSCS for cold sores, was Re: CSinjecting CS My husband gets cold sores (for some weird reason he can no longer feel them coming on, so can't pre-treat them) and he has very successfully stopped them in their tracks by using a q-tip to dab on a mix of 10% DMSO and 90% CS. BTW, nuts, chocolate, and whole grains contain a lot of the amino acid (forgot the name of it) that stimulates the herpes virus. paula - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net Most people just dab a bit of CS directly on the sore before it emerges..as soon as they can feel it coming on..and it never emerges into a blister or sore. Ode -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMailbox reply
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:17:55 -0500 From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMailbox reply Mike, In days gone by I use telodeos (sp) paper for field plotting but can not find a source for a few sheets. It would work great for this study. Ole Bob Thanks for the post. I used to use that paper also, and while I was looking for the correct spelling, I came across a hilarious article by Bob Pease on Bob Widlar, the inventor of the op amp ic. Since you are an engineer, you may have heard of him, so I am posting the link for your enjoyment: http://www.national.com/rap/Story/widlar.html (BTW, your memory is great. It's Teledeltos paper:) Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and BYU again
You've got me curious now...why is it not valid? Ode Coyote wrote: But probably not because the study is not valid Ode At 12:34 AM 5/20/2003 -0700, you wrote: Reid: BYU lawyers have been very busy trying to have the study wiped from the face of the Earth. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: CSCS and BYU again Thanks to all for the links to the BYU studies, but it seems to me there should be a lot more to it. Upto about a year ago there was a site with a table that directly compared CS to five popular antibiotics. This was a very graphic comparison, CS clearly superior. Has this site been dismantled? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com attachment: casbah.vcf
Re: CSCS for cold sores,...Sol
Jay, Yes, arginine is the amino acid that provides the herpes virus with the stimulation. Lysine has a preventive effect. You could look up some nuts in the USDA nutrient database and see what the lysine/ arginine ratio is http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl While molds in nuts may also have an effect by insulting the immune system, it is basically the high arginine content of most nuts and whole grains that give the herpes simplex an ideal environment in the body. paula - Original Message - From: Jay Ice guess...@msn.com Are you sure imino acids stimulate HCV2 because I know l-lysine is an imino acid and it takes 2grams to prevent it taken daily. When I did my cleansing I stopped all vitamins, medication...then after my cleanse forgot to re-start the l-lysine and well here I am. Jay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCurrent from both sides
Ref: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59160.html Re: CSCurrent from both sides From: Robert Berger Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:10:14 Hi Mike, First I do not calculate conductance, I measure it!!! I set up an DMM with an AC current scale. and made it into an mho meter. The AC supply is from a 120 to 12 volt xfmr loaded with back to back 9 volt zeners and a 5 K pot. in series. I adjust the voltage so that a 100k 1% resistor measures 10 uS or micro mhos. I have a one cubic centimeter cell made out of two 1 cm X 3 cm plates mounted on a 1 cm thick plastic handle so that 1 cm projects from the end of the plastic. The backsides and edges are insulated. Works GREAT!! The anode is curved to a 2 radius and the rod cathode (3/64 brass) is 1 3/4 from the anode, almost on the center of the theoretical circle. The edges on one of my plates have been rolled, another I have insulated them with lacquer. The mounting point for the sheets are on the back side down about 1 or 2 inches from the top. Ole Bob Hi Robert, Just out of curiosity, why do you clip the sine wave? This may work OK with a peak-sensing AC dvm, but it will give a true rms the fits as the line voltage changes. Also, what dvm do you use? I calculate the current as 9 / 100e5, or about 90 uA p-p. That should give a reasonable reading on the 200 uA range. I love your 1 cc cell. If I were interested in measuring ppm, that's what I would use. On the edge current, I'm afraid I have to go with Ken on this one. There is no question that sharp edges concentrate the field due to the smaller radius of curvature. That's why high voltage equipment uses metal caps with rolled edges to increase the radius of curvature and eliminate corona. It might be difficult to measure much difference in the total cell resistance, but the current has to be concentrated at the edges. This increase the density of the ion cloud, which leads to misting, large particle generation and eventual plateout. Ken's comparison of the wear patterns between flat sheet and round wire bent into a U-shape is highly illuminating: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59156.html That's why I prefer plain 12 ga wire bent into a W shape. Lots of surface area, and no sharp edges to concentrate the field. Like Ken, I'd use 10 ga if I could find it. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and BYU again
He used a double negative, thus he said it probably WAS valid. Marshall Casbah wrote: You've got me curious now...why is it not valid? Ode Coyote wrote: But probably not because the study is not valid Ode At 12:34 AM 5/20/2003 -0700, you wrote: Reid: BYU lawyers have been very busy trying to have the study wiped from the face of the Earth. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: CSCS and BYU again Thanks to all for the links to the BYU studies, but it seems to me there should be a lot more to it. Upto about a year ago there was a site with a table that directly compared CS to five popular antibiotics. This was a very graphic comparison, CS clearly superior. Has this site been dismantled? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and BYU again
Ah I see.thanks. Rachel Marshall Dudley wrote: He used a double negative, thus he said it probably WAS valid. Marshall Casbah wrote: You've got me curious now...why is it not valid? Ode Coyote wrote: But probably not because the study is not valid Ode At 12:34 AM 5/20/2003 -0700, you wrote: Reid: BYU lawyers have been very busy trying to have the study wiped from the face of the Earth. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: CSCS and BYU again Thanks to all for the links to the BYU studies, but it seems to me there should be a lot more to it. Upto about a year ago there was a site with a table that directly compared CS to five popular antibiotics. This was a very graphic comparison, CS clearly superior. Has this site been dismantled? Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com attachment: casbah.vcf
CSCS Pregnancy
Hi CS'rs, Does anyone out there know if it's dangerous to take CS during pregnancy? Jean - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CSCS Pregnancy
My daughter took it with both of her pregnancies with no problems (one though she has not delivered yet). The baby is smart as a whip. : Marshall Jean DeMasters wrote: Hi CS'rs, Does anyone out there know if it's dangerous to take CS during pregnancy? Jean --- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CSCS Pregnancy
Dear Jean, You said: Does anyone out there know if it's dangerous to take CS during pregnancy? CS is quite gentle. Antibiotics would be far more likely to have a negative impact on a fetus than CS. But I think I'd use it only when needed. That's pretty much my philosophy on CS usage anyway. I would also be sure to use CS that is of a higher quality and has the facts to back up the quality. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLight sensitivity........
What does light sensitivity mean. I know when I spray it on me and it drips on my white tank top it turns a rust color. Does that mean it is ineffective? Jay -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Pregnancy
Hi Marshall, did she take it daily, or only when needed? Jean Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: My daughter took it with both of her pregnancies with no problems (one though she has not delivered yet). The baby is smart as a whip. : Marshall Jean DeMasters wrote: Hi CS'rs, Does anyone out there know if it's dangerous to take CS during pregnancy? Jean - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CSCS Pregnancy
She generally only takes it when needed. Odd thing is, that she takes more than I do, and I take it daily. I guess an ounce of prevention IS worth a pound of cure. Marshall Jean DeMasters wrote: Hi Marshall, did she take it daily, or only when needed? JeanMarshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: My daughter took it with both of her pregnancies with no problems (one though she has not delivered yet). The baby is smart as a whip. : Marshall Jean DeMasters wrote: Hi CS'rs, Does anyone out there know if it's dangerous to take CS during pregnancy? Jean --- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
Re: CSinjecting CS....
Yep it was on the corner of my lip. Now tingle a bit Man that ain't the word! lol. My whole mouth jolted and twitched and I could sqare my head ache is gone too. This is also a battery test. I thought I needed new batteries...guess not. Thanks so much for that info. I really like that. I think this method also has like a zapper effect. Jay Tony wrote: It will tingle a bit. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSscalp question
Dear List - I'm really sorry but I don't know how to turn off html. I don't even know how find my browser. I am working on it. Please forgive me this last time. I suggested cs to a friend for scalp problem. She has something like scull cap-it's like dandruff that smells bad. The first two times she rinsed her hair in cs after washing, then rinsed again. It dramaitically improved the problem but did not totally eliminate it. Since there was no adverse reaction, she put cs in a spray bottle and sprays it on her scalp full strength every few days. It works but she seems to be getting a small bald spot. Could it be the cs And from the posts about bathing, I'm really not sure if it is OK for her to spray cs directly on her scalp full strength?? Gladys -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinjecting CS....
Don't you need a voltage source? Marshall Tony Moody wrote: Jay, A surefire treatment for coldsores is to make CS right at the site of the coldsore for a minute or two. If it is in the corner of your mouth then place one rod touching either your hand or in your mouth, lips, or tongue. Wet the other rod and touch it to the cold sore area. It will tingle a bit. After a short while swop the connections around to reverse the polarity. Works for me. Tony Jay Ice wrote: I have a cold sore again, first time in months. HCV2 is a virus that sits on a nerve in the lip. CS has been known to kill virus' right? If I inject CS at 6 ppm will it kill the virus. Is there a particular spot I would have to inject it? Or right on the coldsore is fine? Any feed back would be such a great help like you would not have any idea. Jay P.S. I tried the icecube thing for 40 minutesif it works for you that is great, wish it were the same here...sigh. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSinulin (FOS)
Orafti oligofructose (FOS) Inulin is a fructooligosaccharide (FOS) derived from chicory by a process similar to that used in extracting sugar from sugar beets. It is white in color, slightly hygroscopic and is water soluble and not digested by monogastric animals. It is not only a natural ingredient but also a prebiotic which stimulates the growth of good intestinal bacteria which support healthy colon conditions. This relationship has a positive effect on the digestive system function, as well as the overall health of the animal. The inulin functions by increasing the bioavailability of minerals, particularly calcium, through its fermentation of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacteria in the intestinal tract. Studies with rats indicated an increase in bone density after consumption of inulin/FOS. In addition, the beneficial effects of inulin and oligofructose on the presence of Bifidobacteria suggests an improved absorption of vitamins, such as the B complexes. Please contact us if you have any questions about Orafti oligofructose (FOS). -- best william meyer
Re: CSMailbox reply
Mike, Thanks for the stories. I went to school at the Univ. of Iillinois with Jack Kilby and he claimed the inventon rights to the IC for TI. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS Zapping....
I have 27 volts. Jay Don't you need a voltage source? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSscalp question
Do you have MSN 8? If you do go to e-mail settings. Jay Dear List - I'm really sorry but I don't know how to turn off html. I don't even know how find my browser. I am working on it. Please forgive me this last time. Gladys -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfish pond
I have a 120 gal fish pond in my garden, algae is getting bad. Can CS be put into the pond to help kill off some of the algae and will it harm the fish? Thank You, Jim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSfish pond
I think straw tied in a bundle works well. ed -Original Message- From: Jim [mailto:kf4...@papadocs.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 3:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSfish pond I have a 120 gal fish pond in my garden, algae is getting bad. Can CS be put into the pond to help kill off some of the algae and will it harm the fish? Thank You, Jim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.480 / Virus Database: 276 - Release Date: 5/12/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.480 / Virus Database: 276 - Release Date: 5/12/2003
RE: CSozone machines,,
Ref : http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59183.html RE: CSozone machines,, From: Harvey Norris (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 23:32:50 The GREAT expenses here are that large induction coils, employing some 40,000 ohms impedance are on either side of the CS cell, but with capacities having identical impedances in series, this serves to regulate the voltage in such a way as to continually lower it to the lowest possible value that the C.L. setting will provide. Harvey, I know a bit about resonance, and would like to model your circuit. Can you supply the following information: 1. What is the inductance of L1 and L2. 2. What is the coil diameter. 3. What is the coil thickness. 4. How many turns of wire are needed. 5. What gauge of wire is used. 6. What is the dc resistance of the coil. 7. What is the value of C1 and C2. 8. What is the circuit Q. 9. What is the input current from the variac. 10. What is the circulating current at resonance. 11. What is the voltage across the tank at resonance. 12. What is the impedance of the colloidal silver cell. 13. How much does the circuit Q change as the ions enter solution. 14. How are you introducing current from the variac. 15. How are you extracting current from the tank. Let me state my concerns. You state the reactance of the coil is 40,000 ohms. From the formula for reactance, XL = 2 * pi * F * L Therefore L = XL / 2 * pi * F = 4 / (2 * pi * 60) = 106.1033 Henries An 106 Henry air wound coil would be enormous. It would fill a room. The coil would have very high losses. Without going through the calculations, I estimate the Q would be less than 1. There would be no resonance effect. Your circuit is impossible to create. Given a single resonant tank, you would have to introduce the current from the variac in series with the circuit. If you connected the variac in parallel, it would short out the tank and prevent any resonance. Since the variac is in series with the tank, the only way you could obtain a resonance effect would be to take the voltage across the tank, or in parallel with L1 and C1. However, your description is the cell is also in series with the tank. Since you must introduce the current from the variac in series with the tank, then both tanks must have equal currents that are in phase. It is impossible to get opposing currents from two tanks as you claim. If you could somehow get opposing currents, basic network theory shows the vector sum is zero. There would be no current through the cell. Your grasp of circuit theory is very limited, and your terminology is not accurate. For example, there is no term called amperage. Your circuit is a complete fabrication. It does not exist, and it cannot be built. You have been lying to the members of this group. You are a troll. Your stories might be entertaining to the other members of your Tesla group, but they have no place here. I seriously doubt you even have enough knowledge of electronics to fake the data I requested above. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMailbox reply
Hi Robert, I went to school at the Univ. of Iillinois with Jack Kilby and he claimed the inventon rights to the IC for TI. Ole Bob Yes, Jack did invent the concept of the integrated circuit, and the main application was digital logic. Bob Widlar put the first analog op amp on silicon. With the tremendous process variations at the time, this was considered impossible. Widlar found ways to place resistors next to each other so they would match, and made circuits that could function over a very wide range in values. I'll bet I can drink a mug of beer faster than you can throw it over your shoulder:) Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: ozone machines
...there is no term called amperage... Boy, that sure makes for a lot of dictionaries to be recalled. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: ozone machines
CSRe: ozone machines From: jrowland (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 17:37:21 ...there is no term called amperage... Boy, that sure makes for a lot of dictionaries to be recalled. jr Perhaps catalogs for automotive fuses. But no engineering texts, which I am certain Harvey has never read. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Pregnancy
Didn't harm my baby at all. Jess By the rude bridge that arched the flood, Their flag to April's breeze unfurled, Here once the embattled farmers stood, And fired the shot heard round the world. --Emerson
Re: CSinulin (FOS)
Hi William; Inulin is not exactly FOS but both are fructans. Did you write this? My question would be, do you have Inulin for sale, preferably purified Inulin that averages a 15 to 22 molecule chain? I have a source of native chicory Inulin, but I may be interested in this specific product. Reason I ask is that FOS, which is 7 or fewer molecules and averages 3.7 to 4.8 molecules, is known to allow fermentation by undesireable bacteria to a much higher degree, and I wouldn't want that. Native Inulin on the other hand averages 9 or 10 molecules and discourages such undesireable fermentation, and refined Inulin with it's much lower short-chain percentage, is even more appropriate for rectifying incorect bowel flora in the health arena, although native Inulin is suitable for general use. regards, Duncan Crow Orafti oligofructose (FOS) Inulin is a fructooligosaccharide (FOS) derived from chicory by a process similar to that used in extracting sugar from sugar beets. It is white in color, slightly hygroscopic and is water soluble and not digested by monogastric animals. It is not only a natural ingredient but also a prebiotic which stimulates the growth of good intestinal bacteria which support healthy colon conditions. This relationship has a positive effect on the digestive system function, as well as the overall health of the animal. The inulin functions by increasing the bioavailability of minerals, particularly calcium, through its fermentation of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacteria in the intestinal tract. Studies with rats indicated an increase in bone density after consumption of inulin/FOS. In addition, the beneficial effects of inulin and oligofructose on the presence of Bifidobacteria suggests an improved absorption of vitamins, such as the B complexes. Please contact us if you have any questions about Orafti oligofructose (FOS). -- best william meyer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSscalp question
I have MSN 9. I have gone through all of the settings. in all the categories and there is no way that I can see to turn off html. I sent an e-mail to MSN and asked them how to turn it off. I have also e-mailed JUNO. I am waiting. Inthe meantime, does anyone know if spraying cs on your scalp is unsafe? Gladys On Tue, 20 May 2003 17:15:02 -0400 Jay Ice guess...@msn.com writes: Do you have MSN 8? If you do go to e-mail settings. Jay Dear List - I'm really sorry but I don't know how to turn off html. I don't even know how find my browser. I am working on it. Please forgive me this last time. Gladys -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSscalp question
There is no html with your message, You're just fine. Chuck Drive carefully. We need every taxpayer we can get. On Tue, 20 May 2003 16:06:48 -0400, Gladys Williams gw...@juno.com wrote: I'm really sorry but I don't know how to turn off html. I don't even know how find my browser. I am working on it. Please forgive me this last time. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: ozone machines
am·per·age (am'p?r-ij, am'pîr'-) n. The strength of an electric current expressed in amperes. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. You knew this was coming, didn't you? I think you mean there is no UNIT called amperage, else we have more than one troll on the list. Chuck Every morning is the dawn of a new error. On Tue, 20 May 2003 21:22:37 -0400, Mike Monett ncrffn...@sneakemail.com wrote: CSRe: ozone machines From: jrowland (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 17:37:21 ...there is no term called amperage... Boy, that sure makes for a lot of dictionaries to be recalled. jr Perhaps catalogs for automotive fuses. But no engineering texts, which I am certain Harvey has never read. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
SK, Peter R, Dan Nave, Didn't send formulas as you didn't send me your addresses. Send it to rresm...@attbi.com and they will be sent immediately. Bob Smith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: ozone machines
Re: CSRe: ozone machines From: CKing001 (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 21:12:41 amperage (am'p?r-ij, am'pîr'-) n. The strength of an electric current expressed in amperes. The American Heritage Dictionary Chuck, The American Heritage Dictionary is useful for many things, but it is not an engineering text. Anyone who studied engineering would use the terms Amp, Amps, Amperes, etc. Note the capitalization, which is used in all engineering parameters to denote the person who did the original work. Obviously, the person who wrote that entry never studied engineering. And neither has Harvey. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSInformation to List Members
I have encountered an indeterminate Mail Program failure in my Netscape mail system..one which prevents me from accessing my Inbox and/or downloading my incoming messages. I get an error-prompt stating Netscape has caused an error in NETSCAPE.EXENetscape will now Close. I encountered this same problem about a year agoafter much palaver and wand-waving and $100 charge, my local software Guru remedied the problem.but never did tell me what he had done.Exactly! I will endeavor to have the problem remedied ASAP. Meantime, this Yahoo facsimile will be my connection with the List. Persons attempting to contact me via email, privately, will be forced to use this (Yahoo) address...until I can get the existing problem resolved. My apologies to all for taking up this much bandwidth explaining my plight, but there are several list members with whom I have ongoing contactand this is my first opportunity to inform all that I have been unable to receive ANY mail since Saturday last. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
CSRe: ozone machines
I = eF Electron's amperage determined ---The Industry Source for Engineers Technical Managers Worldwide http://www.eetimes.com/news/97/947news/elec.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSscalp question
Inthe meantime, does anyone know if spraying cs on your scalp is unsafe? Not at all, Gladys. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSscalp question
Some groups turn off the html. So don't worry about it, I send html all the time. If the group doesn't turn it off and someone don't like it then they have a delete button I am sure. Sincerely Yours, Hank From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: Re: CSscalp question There is no html with your message, You're just fine. Chuck Drive carefully. We need every taxpayer we can get. On Tue, 20 May 2003 16:06:48 -0400, Gladys Williams gw...@juno.com wrote: I'm really sorry but I don't know how to turn off html. I don't even know how find my browser. I am working on it. Please forgive me this last time. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSozone machines,,
RE: CSozone machines Chuck, Anyone who studies engineering starts with the International System of Units, or SI-Units. There are seven SI base units and 22 derived units, with very strict rules of usage: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/ The term amperage is not an engineering term. It is sometimes found in fuse and circuit breaker charts written by stock clerks. It is often found in technobabble, such as the posts submitted by Harvey. In order for his stories on making cs to be credible, others have to be able to duplicate his results. I have requested that he supply me with engineering data on his setup, as shown in the following list: 1. What is the inductance of L1 and L2. 2. What is the coil diameter. 3. What is the coil thickness. 4. How many turns of wire are needed. 5. What gauge of wire is used. 6. What is the dc resistance of the coil. 7. What is the value of C1 and C2. 8. What is the circuit Q. 9. What is the input current from the variac. 10. What is the circulating current at resonance. 11. What is the voltage across the tank at resonance. 12. What is the impedance of the colloidal silver cell. 13. How much does the circuit Q change as the ions enter solution. 14. How are you introducing current from the variac. 15. How are you extracting current from the tank. However, I have already shown his circuit to be impossible to construct: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59221.html And I invite anyone to try and duplicate his results. If it is not possible to do so, then his stories must be considered fabrications. A bit of wire and some capacitors is all that is needed. Or a successful plot in SPICE. It will never happen. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: ozone machines
CSRe: ozone machines Sorry, Peter Clarke is the reporter who wrote the title. He is not an engineer or a scientist, who would be horrified to have that term associated with their work. See the International System of Units, or SI-Units, which define the terms and usage of engineering units: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/ The term amperage is not among them. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
