Re: CS>EIS + DMSO on humans...

[Gunar]

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From: "Teri Johnston" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: CS>EIS + DMSO on humans...


> Hi Pavel,
> 
> You would want to dilute the DMSO with the EIS so that you are only 
> using 10% DMSO/90%EIS to start with to see if you have reactions.  I 
> don't use more than a 30% DMSO solution on my skin personally and I'm 
> a fair skinned blonde.
> 
> Teri
> At 03:50 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
> 
> >Hi there,
> >Are there some experiences with EIS together with DMSO on humans?
> >We have some requirements the EIS to penetrate entirely and deeper 
> >to the skin and maybe deeper, uner the skin.
> > *I have noticed, that DMSO causes some skin problems as excema or 
> >allergic reactions. *
> >Can you help?
> >Pavel Hochmut

Hi Pavel -- DMSO is 'not' a likely cause eczema or allergy.

What you probably are experiencing is a redness-rash that
is caused by the DMSO drying out the skin, which it does often do,
depending on the sensitivity of the skin area on the body,
(and depending on the individual person ... we are all different).

If/when drying of the skin occurs, overcome the problem by applying
a good skin moisturiser, or a suitable oil. I find Emu oil works well.
Other oils that may suit could be pure cold-pressed coconut oil or
olive oil.

Hope this helps,
Gunar




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Re: CS>EIS + DMSO on humans...

[starshar]

From: "Pavel Hochmut" 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:50 PM


Are there some experiences with EIS together with DMSO on humans?
We have some requirements the EIS to penetrate entirely and deeper to the 
skin and maybe deeper, uner the skin.
I have noticed, that DMSO causes some skin problems as excema or allergic 
reactions.

Can you help?


DMSO will cause a localized histamine release. This is harmless, but 
annoying and itchy! As you continue to use the DMSO on the same location, 
the histamine reaction will eventually cease. Since the DMSO is also drying, 
it is helpful to follow up with a rich (and pure!) oil, such as emu, virgin 
coconut oil, or olive oil.
Diluting the DMSO directly with EIS is great, but use a low dilution, 
perhaps starting with 20%.


Sharon


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Re: CS>EIS + DMSO on humans...

[Teri Johnston]

Hi Pavel,

You would want to dilute the DMSO with the EIS so that you are only 
using 10% DMSO/90%EIS to start with to see if you have reactions.  I 
don't use more than a 30% DMSO solution on my skin personally and I'm 
a fair skinned blonde.


Teri
At 03:50 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:


Hi there,
Are there some experiences with EIS together with DMSO on humans?
We have some requirements the EIS to penetrate entirely and deeper 
to the skin and maybe deeper, uner the skin.
I have noticed, that DMSO causes some skin problems as excema or 
allergic reactions.

Can you help?
Pavel Hochmut


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Re: CS>Purity of silver

[Gaston]

Thank you M. Devour for the clarification. I do not know what the co,
means either "commercially attainable". I will certainly not buy any silver
from them.
Gaston
=
I don't know what they mean by "commercially attainable?" We can get 
silver from scientific materials supply companies like Alpha/Aeser or 
Aldrich that go up to 5 or 6 nines, easily. It's not cheap, but silver 
is evidently not that hard to refine. Stuff like that is used in all 
kinds of scientific applications where ultra-purity is needed.



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Re: CS>Purity of silver

[M. G. Devour]

> Would appreciate comments on "the highest purity of silver commercially
> attainable: 99.95%" ?
> 
> There must be a mistake, since we can buy 99.99% Canadian maple leaf
> silver dollar...

I don't know what they mean by "commercially attainable?" We can get 
silver from scientific materials supply companies like Alpha/Aeser or 
Aldrich that go up to 5 or 6 nines, easily. It's not cheap, but silver 
is evidently not that hard to refine. Stuff like that is used in all 
kinds of scientific applications where ultra-purity is needed.

Fortunately, even 3 nines (99.9%) purity is adequate for making CS in 
the 10 ppm range, as any impurities from the anode metal ought to be 
less than 10 parts per BILLION. Which means that impurities in your 
water ought to be more significant.

Four nines is available and not much more expensive than 3 nines, if 
you feel you need the peace of mind.

Be well,

Mike D.

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RE: CS>Plating small things

[Max Sanders]

Thank you V, Ode, and Bob for your 3 responses.  One was a bit light but 
potential, one a bit heavy industrial yet informative, and one that looks just 
right for my application.  (3 bears reference)

I wonder if the plating kit below, the silver kit, is mostly silver or made to 
be used to get a silver look (shiney, mirror) but with not much silver.  I'll 
look into it.  I want to silver plate some cheap jewelry that has mucho 
sentimental value but has irritating qualities from the metals used - nickel?? 
for my daughter.  I was hoping someone would say a slight modification of an 
EIS system - using baking soda, vinegar, sodium hydroxide, wine yeast, a 2X4, 
and cast iron cooking 
ware :)  you know...household or easily obtainable stuff.

Bob, the constituency of the plating kits could be important to your 
application with regards to its conductivity.  I used to have a 26 Columbia 
sailboat when I lived on Casco Bay in Maine.  So using and keeping track of the 
zincs was important. But I had metal components on a fiberglass hull. Are you 
on salt water?  How do you redo an aluminum hull?  Do you use zincs or somesuch 
to protect your hull?

Max

"Medwith, Robert"  wrote: RE: CS>Plating 
small thingshttp://www.caswellplating.com/kits/plugnplate.htm 
Do not know how well it works, but have been thinking about getting it. 
I have a sensor on bottom of my boat that is silver plated (reads current on 
aluminum hull). 
The sensor and boat is 32 years old and needs redone. 
I hung 4 ft of my silver wire over side and got different reading than the 
sensor. 
Bob 
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From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On 
Behalf Of V 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:26 PM 
To: Max Sanders 
Subject: Re: CS>Plating small things 
 
  Hi Max, 
  there is a way to plate things just using a chemical 
 
 
 
  Take care, 
 V 
 
  > I would like to plate some small items with silver.  Can our EIS  
> system, or some simple variation be used to apply a very thin coating?   
> I believe industrial plating solutions use an acid bath, but that is  
> about all I know.  Since this is limited use, I don't need great speed  
> and quantity of items. 
  > note: I am still considering, or rather interested, in the cast iron  
> plating concept.but this is not that. 
  > Maz 
  > Acmeair  wrote: doing the vitc/salt protocol,  
> can you use potassium instead of salt? 
  > need a good source of vit c,   potassium, 
  > thanks, jim 
 
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CS>EIS + DMSO on humans...

[Pavel Hochmut]

Hi there,
Are there some experiences with EIS together with DMSO on humans?
We have some requirements the EIS to penetrate entirely and deeper to the skin 
and maybe deeper, uner the skin.
I have noticed, that DMSO causes some skin problems as excema or allergic 
reactions. 
Can you help?
Pavel Hochmut


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CS>nebulizer questions

[Wendy]

I came across these instructions for using CS in a nebulizer. but he
says to not put it in your mouth, but to breath deeply

http://healingtools.tripod.com/CSN_vit.html

How would you do that with kids? I don't think I could get my young ones
to do it- I try already misting the cs in our faces and we make a game
out of it ;-) 

Plus I can't remember and with the archives down- what particle size is
optimum? There were a few other tips about nebulizers too but I cannot
recall?

I see a 'ducky' nebulizer on ebay, I was wondering hm. My 16 month
old seems to have developed a bronchial type cough that has lasted 3
weeks. I've been using sodium ascorbate, oregano oil, cs, homeopathics,
herbs, carrot juice etc. but it's still there. Sometimes dry, sometimes
wet.

Mostly it comes on after she falls asleep and when she wakes up. There
doesn't seem to be any other symptoms except the odd crusty nose but I
don't want to end up with a secondary! We know she is sensitive to a lot
of things including dust, cat-dog-sheep hair so we have noticed perhaps
the wood furnace and the dogs and cat as being irritants. We have yukky
old carpets and we are debating taking up the livingroom one which is
not glued down and just have the plywood for now. Now that the weather
is getting nicer we can have windows open.

Also our aranizer is away being repaired so that will help too when it
returns.

Anyhow, I was musing that the cs in the nebulizer might be quite
effective. 

Anyone else use it with their kids??

Thanks

Wendy

 


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CS>test

[bob smith]

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Re: CS>effective ppm's +GATORADE + ASPARTAME

[Marshall Dudley]

Gertrude wrote:

> As you can see,Gatorade also in Europe and
> Mexico... 
> http://www.gatorade.nl/http://www.gatorade.com/home/index.phphttp://www.gatorade.com.mx/http://www.gatorade.be/
>  Trudy.maybe
> we can write the factory to remove the
> aspartamehttp://www.aspartame.info/index.htmlStevia is a better
> choise?
>
>
> Stevia is a much better choice, but it is against the law to sweeten
> foods with stevia.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>  Trudy
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Richard
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:47 PM
>  Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's
>   Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe
>  ? What is in it that spikes the cs to perform better
>  ?thanksOn 24/03/2006, at 17:18, Robert Berger wrote:
>
> > The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3
> > gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn
> > reseach foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places
> > where it normally doesn't go. Many have found it very
> > effective.
> > "Ole Bob"
> > gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >  Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5
> >  ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken
> >  throughout the day for a chronic condition with
> >  no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also
> >  said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get
> >  into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low
> >  dose. Which is it?
> >

RE: CS>effective ppm's +GATORADE + ASPARTAME

[Medwith, Robert]

I just read lable on Gatorade I see no mention of Aspartane
Just sucrose syrup
 
bOB

Gertrude wrote: 

As you can see,Gatorade also in Europe and Mexico... http://www.gatorade.nl/
 http://www.gatorade.com/home/index.php
 http://www.gatorade.com.mx/
 http://www.gatorade.be/
  Trudy.maybe we can write the factory to
remove the aspartamehttp://www.aspartame.info/index.html
 Stevia is a better choise? 
  

Stevia is a much better choice, but it is against the law to sweeten foods
with stevia. 


Marshall 
  
  
 Trudy 


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From: Richard  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's
 Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe ? What is in it
that spikes the cs to perform better ?thanksOn 24/03/2006, at 17:18, Robert
Berger wrote: 

The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3 gatorade. This is a
recomemdation from the Eric Harborn reseach foundation in Texas as it takes
silver to places where it normally doesn't go. Many have found it very
effective.  
"Ole Bob" 
gmetrop...@aol.com   wrote: 

Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is more effective than
10-20ppm taken throughout the day for a chronic condition with no chance of
agyria. But, scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more apt
to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low dose. Which is it? 

Re: CS>effective ppm's

[Marshall Dudley]

It is believed to be the electrolyte, but the glucose and cirtic acid
could be a factor as well.

Marshall

Richard wrote:

> Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe ? What is
> in it that spikes the cs to perform better ?thanksOn 24/03/2006, at
> 17:18, Robert Berger wrote:
>
>> The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3
>> gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn reseach
>> foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places where it normally
>> doesn't go. Many have found it very effective.
>> "Ole Bob"
>> gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>  Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is
>>  more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for
>>  a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But,
>>  scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more
>>  apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low
>>  dose. Which is it?
>>

CS>Purity of silver

[Gaston]

I found this comment from one of the silver manufacturers :
=
" http://www.handyharmancanada.com/hbpm/silver/silver.htm
The uses of silver
Silver is used for jewelry, coins and silverware. Other principal uses are 
electrical contacts, photographic processes, metal joining, silver paints 
and dental applications.


The highest purity of silver commercially attainable is 99.95% (nominally 
considered 100%), but because of its softness and susceptibility to damage, 
silver is rarely used in pure form. "


=

Would appreciate comments on "the highest purity of silver commercially 
attainable: 99.95%" ?


There must be a mistake, since we can buy 99.99% Canadian maple leaf silver 
dollar...


Doesn't Sota deal with this company ?

Thanks,

Gaston






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RE: CS>Plating small things

[Medwith, Robert]

http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/plugnplate.htm
Do not know how well it works, but have been thinking about getting it.
I have a sensor on bottom of my boat that is silver plated (reads current on
aluminum hull).
The sensor and boat is 32 years old and needs redone.
I hung 4 ft of my silver wire over side and got different reading than the
sensor.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of V
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:26 PM
To: Max Sanders
Subject: Re: CS>Plating small things


Hi Max,

there is a way to plate things just using a chemical




Take care,
 V


> I would like to plate some small items with silver.  Can our EIS 
> system, or some simple variation be used to apply a very thin coating?  
> I believe industrial plating solutions use an acid bath, but that is 
> about all I know.  Since this is limited use, I don't need great speed 
> and quantity of items.

> note: I am still considering, or rather interested, in the cast iron 
> plating concept.but this is not that.

> Maz

> Acmeair  wrote: doing the vitc/salt protocol, 
> can you use potassium instead of salt?

> need a good source of vit c,   potassium,

> thanks, jim


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RE: CS>Knees

[Medwith, Robert]

I got mine over the net, but you can get at some vit stores.
 
Bob

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Knees



In a message dated 3/22/2006 8:56:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
brooks76...@lycos.com writes:

CMO 

Where do you get this?