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Hi There Victor, have you considered the importance of a balanced body, “ph wise - I am going through this education on myself as I write this, and have realised just how absolutely important this is, for us all, to avoid body breakdown and diseases !Even to acid saliva in the mouth which causes decay in the teeth!!!There is so much new to learn every day about the body and how it operates it is an ongoing study for sure Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 2 Sep 2014, at 19:07, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alan, I agree with your general premise of not taking medicine every day. Indeed, it is my goal to perfect my diet and environment, and not take CS every day. And I also think it was great that you mentioned probiotics. Kefir is part of my daily diet. However, I am a bit dismayed by two other things you said, and I would like to put my thoughts out there for discussion: 1. I do not agree with assumptions about CS indiscriminately killing all bacteria in our body, as research and experience contradict that. Nobody yet knows for sure all the exact mechanisms of CS. It seems much more likely that our body somehow works in conjunction with CS. If not, then excessive use of CS would decimate our immune system by wiping out the bacteria in our gut. But it does not. The exact mechanisms of CS are still beyond our understanding. Yes we know it kills all pathogens, we know it generates stem cells, we know it kills cancer cells, and we know many different mechanisms for these actions. But there is still a lot of mystery there, as the contradictions remain unexplained. 2. I do not agree that the Herxheimer reaction is a fallacy. It is caused by the toxic excretions and litter of dying pathogens. I have a lot of first hand experience with this from using the Beck Protocol. Dr. Robert Beck recognized this problem and included ozonated water to deal with it. Ozonated water is incredibly effective at neutralizing and eliminating waste from the body, and thus preventing the Herxheimer reaction. Myself and family members have experienced the difference many times. (The Beck Protocol is highly likely to cause a strong Herxheimer reaction if you don't include the ozonated water... and sometimes we are too lazy to make the ozonated water... and then are pointedly reminded how effective it is). Again, I agree with your general idea of not taking 'medicine' every day. However, I no longer view CS as a medicine. It is certainly not a drug. I know it is not a nutrient or supplement either, but I am just not sure how to categorize it at this point. We are practically invulnerable with the right diet, and Dr. Weston A. Price has done a great job of documenting that. Best to follow his dietary guidance and keep a bottle of CS in my pocket, just in case ;-) Victor On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote: The whole Herx thing is a bit controversial. Some say it means all the bad stuff is dying off, and some say it is a bad reaction to the medicine. It was invented to explain away why some PPL react to Penicillin . Either way I am not in the take medicine everyday camp because anything that kills bacteria is not selective contrary to what some PPL like to believe, as if it kills one thing, it will inevitably kill the good guys too. Since there is more bacteria in your body than cells and since the bacteria are living symbiotically with you, then you are destroying that which keeps you healthy. Basically symbiotically means that you each benefit each other. Bacteria is responsible for everything from digestion to consuming poisons, keeping the bad guys in check and no doubt many more things. I read once that speculation is that the reason us humans do so well despite having a small genome is that we have co-opted the genome of all the symbiotic bacteria in us. Some PPL take a variety of things daily such as MMS, H2O2 etc. and I say that is nonsense. You have a defence system for a reason. Yes when it is overloaded because of your poor dietary habits then help it out, but find out what you are doing wrong and fix that. Depending on some substance everyday to survive is a fool's paradise AFAIAC. That is why probiotics and yogurt and all of the other fermented foods give PPL such a healthy gut... bacteria are your friend. Alan On 2014-09-01, at 23:59 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: AJ, I think dosage depends largely on your overall health. Some people need more than others. A would recommend a glass a day as a starting point, and increase it as you feel the need. And I mean increase it within the same day. If I had a bad flu with a fever, I would probably drink four glasses a day, or even more. You cannot overdose on CS, and making it at home means that it is practically free. So if I don't feel some
Re: CSIntroduction-Hello
So what is the dose per day when you have the flue or a cold? (Assume that I use a 10ppm produkt. /AJ 2014-09-02 3:06 GMT+02:00 Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com: Hello Hollie, Glad you discovered CS (Colloidal Silver). Finding trusted information on the Internet is extremely difficult. I have countless success stories of my own, and there are many people on this mailing list with more knowledge and experience than me. Here are my answers to your questions: 1. There is nothing to worry about. Nobody turns blue if they have real CS. There are no side effects or drug interactions to worry about. 2. To ensure that you have good CS, I strongly recommend making your own. It is by far the safest and most cost effective way to get CS. I recommend www.silverpuppy.com but there are other good devices too. 3. I have been using CS that I make at home for nearly ten years. My ten year old daughter has never missed a day of school. She had ear infections, colds, etc., before I started CS, but nothing more than a hint since then. My wife and I are never sick from work either. We can all tell if we catch something, but it is eradicated or marginalized immediately by the CS. We have wiped out infections, toe fungus, and even pet issues. Over a dozen of my family members now use CS, and many now have their own devices. 4. Cancer, HIV, etc., yes, CS can be very effective. But it does have limits. The most effective protocol that I have ever seen for such is the Beck Protocol. CS is actually an important part of the Beck Protocol. More information can be found at http://www.bobbeck.com. My family has also had amazing experiences with the Beck Protocol. But in truth, CS is so incredibly effective against all pathogens that we rarely need it. One other recommendation I would like to make is nutritional guidance from the Weston A. Price Foundation. The work of Dr. Price is quite profound, and yet almost obvious. As a medical professional I think you will find his work quite interesting. I highly recommend his book. Here is a link to the guidance: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/dietary-guidelines/ Best of luck to you. You have come to a good place for CS information. Victor On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:13 AM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
Re: CSIntroduction-Hello
AJ, I think dosage depends largely on your overall health. Some people need more than others. A would recommend a glass a day as a starting point, and increase it as you feel the need. And I mean increase it within the same day. If I had a bad flu with a fever, I would probably drink four glasses a day, or even more. You cannot overdose on CS, and making it at home means that it is practically free. So if I don't feel some improvement within hours, I will keep drinking more. I keep plastic bottles filled with it so that I can just keep drinking all day and all night. Another point to consider is that symptoms - fever, stuffy nose, etc., will often continue after the body has 'won' the battle, as those are our body's defense mechanisms, and It simply takes time for the body to shut them down. So you really have to judge how you 'feel' in a more holistic way. You can feel great with a mild fever and some congestion, or you could feel terrible. In either case, keep drinking the CS for some days after you feel great, to make sure that you don't relapse. If you have never used CS before, I would recommend starting with a glass a day. You could get diarrhea and Herxheimer reactions, depending on your overall condition. A Herxheimer reaction could feel like a flu, and is caused by rapid die off of pathogens that occurs to quickly for your body to handle. And so you could actually feel worse before you suddenly feel much better. Victor On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com wrote: So what is the dose per day when you have the flue or a cold? (Assume that I use a 10ppm produkt. /AJ 2014-09-02 3:06 GMT+02:00 Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com: Hello Hollie, Glad you discovered CS (Colloidal Silver). Finding trusted information on the Internet is extremely difficult. I have countless success stories of my own, and there are many people on this mailing list with more knowledge and experience than me. Here are my answers to your questions: 1. There is nothing to worry about. Nobody turns blue if they have real CS. There are no side effects or drug interactions to worry about. 2. To ensure that you have good CS, I strongly recommend making your own. It is by far the safest and most cost effective way to get CS. I recommend www.silverpuppy.com but there are other good devices too. 3. I have been using CS that I make at home for nearly ten years. My ten year old daughter has never missed a day of school. She had ear infections, colds, etc., before I started CS, but nothing more than a hint since then. My wife and I are never sick from work either. We can all tell if we catch something, but it is eradicated or marginalized immediately by the CS. We have wiped out infections, toe fungus, and even pet issues. Over a dozen of my family members now use CS, and many now have their own devices. 4. Cancer, HIV, etc., yes, CS can be very effective. But it does have limits. The most effective protocol that I have ever seen for such is the Beck Protocol. CS is actually an important part of the Beck Protocol. More information can be found at http://www.bobbeck.com. My family has also had amazing experiences with the Beck Protocol. But in truth, CS is so incredibly effective against all pathogens that we rarely need it. One other recommendation I would like to make is nutritional guidance from the Weston A. Price Foundation. The work of Dr. Price is quite profound, and yet almost obvious. As a medical professional I think you will find his work quite interesting. I highly recommend his book. Here is a link to the guidance: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/dietary-guidelines/ Best of luck to you. You have come to a good place for CS information. Victor On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:13 AM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some
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I think that should be 'argyria' dee Sent from my iPad On 2 Sep 2014, at 02:01, TJ Garland ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Hollie, i have used it with great success for 20 years for hundreds of different problems. It worked better than antibiotics for all. It must be made properly-to not get agraria. Simple to do. Www.silverpuppy.com is one supplier. I could write pages on my clients when I was a practicing ND. Search the net awhile. Buy A Miraculous health Substance by Marvin Robey. The Body Electric by Becker Search colloidal silver+Brigham Young university Then ask the group questions. I've always wondered what the 1920's and 1930's were like, but I never wanted to see it from the German perspective….. On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:13 PM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
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Too bad CS doesn't help with spelling skills- I've always wondered what the 1920's and 1930's were like, but I never wanted to see it from the German perspective….. On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:31 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: I think that should be 'argyria' dee Sent from my iPad On 2 Sep 2014, at 02:01, TJ Garland ironguard...@gmail.com wrote: Hollie, i have used it with great success for 20 years for hundreds of different problems. It worked better than antibiotics for all. It must be made properly-to not get agraria. Simple to do. Www.silverpuppy.com is one supplier. I could write pages on my clients when I was a practicing ND. Search the net awhile. Buy A Miraculous health Substance by Marvin Robey. The Body Electric by Becker Search colloidal silver+Brigham Young university Then ask the group questions. I've always wondered what the 1920's and 1930's were like, but I never wanted to see it from the German perspective….. On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:13 PM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
Re: CSIntroduction-Hello
The whole Herx thing is a bit controversial. Some say it means all the bad stuff is dying off, and some say it is a bad reaction to the medicine. It was invented to explain away why some PPL react to Penicillin . Either way I am not in the take medicine everyday camp because anything that kills bacteria is not selective contrary to what some PPL like to believe, as if it kills one thing, it will inevitably kill the good guys too. Since there is more bacteria in your body than cells and since the bacteria are living symbiotically with you, then you are destroying that which keeps you healthy. Basically symbiotically means that you each benefit each other. Bacteria is responsible for everything from digestion to consuming poisons, keeping the bad guys in check and no doubt many more things. I read once that speculation is that the reason us humans do so well despite having a small genome is that we have co-opted the genome of all the symbiotic bacteria in us. Some PPL take a variety of things daily such as MMS, H2O2 etc. and I say that is nonsense. You have a defence system for a reason. Yes when it is overloaded because of your poor dietary habits then help it out, but find out what you are doing wrong and fix that. Depending on some substance everyday to survive is a fool's paradise AFAIAC. That is why probiotics and yogurt and all of the other fermented foods give PPL such a healthy gut... bacteria are your friend. Alan On 2014-09-01, at 23:59 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: AJ, I think dosage depends largely on your overall health. Some people need more than others. A would recommend a glass a day as a starting point, and increase it as you feel the need. And I mean increase it within the same day. If I had a bad flu with a fever, I would probably drink four glasses a day, or even more. You cannot overdose on CS, and making it at home means that it is practically free. So if I don't feel some improvement within hours, I will keep drinking more. I keep plastic bottles filled with it so that I can just keep drinking all day and all night. Another point to consider is that symptoms - fever, stuffy nose, etc., will often continue after the body has 'won' the battle, as those are our body's defense mechanisms, and It simply takes time for the body to shut them down. So you really have to judge how you 'feel' in a more holistic way. You can feel great with a mild fever and some congestion, or you could feel terrible. In either case, keep drinking the CS for some days after you feel great, to make sure that you don't relapse. If you have never used CS before, I would recommend starting with a glass a day. You could get diarrhea and Herxheimer reactions, depending on your overall condition. A Herxheimer reaction could feel like a flu, and is caused by rapid die off of pathogens that occurs to quickly for your body to handle. And so you could actually feel worse before you suddenly feel much better. Victor -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIntroduction-Hello
Ok, but what is your recommended dose in deciliter per day if you have the flue or a cold? /AJ 2014-09-02 18:34 GMT+02:00 Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com: The whole Herx thing is a bit controversial. Some say it means all the bad stuff is dying off, and some say it is a bad reaction to the medicine. It was invented to explain away why some PPL react to Penicillin . Either way I am not in the take medicine everyday camp because anything that kills bacteria is not selective contrary to what some PPL like to believe, as if it kills one thing, it will inevitably kill the good guys too. Since there is more bacteria in your body than cells and since the bacteria are living symbiotically with you, then you are destroying that which keeps you healthy. Basically symbiotically means that you each benefit each other. Bacteria is responsible for everything from digestion to consuming poisons, keeping the bad guys in check and no doubt many more things. I read once that speculation is that the reason us humans do so well despite having a small genome is that we have co-opted the genome of all the symbiotic bacteria in us. Some PPL take a variety of things daily such as MMS, H2O2 etc. and I say that is nonsense. You have a defence system for a reason. Yes when it is overloaded because of your poor dietary habits then help it out, but find out what you are doing wrong and fix that. Depending on some substance everyday to survive is a fool's paradise AFAIAC. That is why probiotics and yogurt and all of the other fermented foods give PPL such a healthy gut... bacteria are your friend. Alan On 2014-09-01, at 23:59 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: AJ, I think dosage depends largely on your overall health. Some people need more than others. A would recommend a glass a day as a starting point, and increase it as you feel the need. And I mean increase it within the same day. If I had a bad flu with a fever, I would probably drink four glasses a day, or even more. You cannot overdose on CS, and making it at home means that it is practically free. So if I don't feel some improvement within hours, I will keep drinking more. I keep plastic bottles filled with it so that I can just keep drinking all day and all night. Another point to consider is that symptoms - fever, stuffy nose, etc., will often continue after the body has 'won' the battle, as those are our body's defense mechanisms, and It simply takes time for the body to shut them down. So you really have to judge how you 'feel' in a more holistic way. You can feel great with a mild fever and some congestion, or you could feel terrible. In either case, keep drinking the CS for some days after you feel great, to make sure that you don't relapse. If you have never used CS before, I would recommend starting with a glass a day. You could get diarrhea and Herxheimer reactions, depending on your overall condition. A Herxheimer reaction could feel like a flu, and is caused by rapid die off of pathogens that occurs to quickly for your body to handle. And so you could actually feel worse before you suddenly feel much better. Victor -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I make no recommendation as it would no doubt depend on a number of factors such as; the strength of the mixture, size of particles, condition of patient purity of source water, silver purity, etc. My concern is that these statements have not been tested in any fashion. Just someone's guess based on their performance. The problem is that if they had done it differently what condition would they be in? My main concern is advising PPL to just drink lots of it every day. I use it if I need it and then I leave it. Colloidal silver is a modality not a religion. Alan On 2014-09-02, at 10:43 AM, André Juthe wrote: Ok, but what is your recommended dose in deciliter per day if you have the flue or a cold? /AJ 2014-09-02 18:34 GMT+02:00 Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com: The whole Herx thing is a bit controversial. Some say it means all the bad stuff is dying off, and some say it is a bad reaction to the medicine. It was invented to explain away why some PPL react to Penicillin . Either way I am not in the take medicine everyday camp because anything that kills bacteria is not selective contrary to what some PPL like to believe, as if it kills one thing, it will inevitably kill the good guys too. Since there is more bacteria in your body than cells and since the bacteria are living symbiotically with you, then you are destroying that which keeps you healthy. Basically symbiotically means that you each benefit each other. Bacteria is responsible for everything from digestion to consuming poisons, keeping the bad guys in check and no doubt many more things. I read once that speculation is that the reason us humans do so well despite having a small genome is that we have co-opted the genome of all the symbiotic bacteria in us. Some PPL take a variety of things daily such as MMS, H2O2 etc. and I say that is nonsense. You have a defence system for a reason. Yes when it is overloaded because of your poor dietary habits then help it out, but find out what you are doing wrong and fix that. Depending on some substance everyday to survive is a fool's paradise AFAIAC. That is why probiotics and yogurt and all of the other fermented foods give PPL such a healthy gut... bacteria are your friend. Alan On 2014-09-01, at 23:59 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: AJ, I think dosage depends largely on your overall health. Some people need more than others. A would recommend a glass a day as a starting point, and increase it as you feel the need. And I mean increase it within the same day. If I had a bad flu with a fever, I would probably drink four glasses a day, or even more. You cannot overdose on CS, and making it at home means that it is practically free. So if I don't feel some improvement within hours, I will keep drinking more. I keep plastic bottles filled with it so that I can just keep drinking all day and all night. Another point to consider is that symptoms - fever, stuffy nose, etc., will often continue after the body has 'won' the battle, as those are our body's defense mechanisms, and It simply takes time for the body to shut them down. So you really have to judge how you 'feel' in a more holistic way. You can feel great with a mild fever and some congestion, or you could feel terrible. In either case, keep drinking the CS for some days after you feel great, to make sure that you don't relapse. If you have never used CS before, I would recommend starting with a glass a day. You could get diarrhea and Herxheimer reactions, depending on your overall condition. A Herxheimer reaction could feel like a flu, and is caused by rapid die off of pathogens that occurs to quickly for your body to handle. And so you could actually feel worse before you suddenly feel much better. Victor -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Alan, I agree with your general premise of not taking medicine every day. Indeed, it is my goal to perfect my diet and environment, and not take CS every day. And I also think it was great that you mentioned probiotics. Kefir is part of my daily diet. However, I am a bit dismayed by two other things you said, and I would like to put my thoughts out there for discussion: 1. I do not agree with assumptions about CS indiscriminately killing all bacteria in our body, as research and experience contradict that. Nobody yet knows for sure all the exact mechanisms of CS. It seems much more likely that our body somehow works in conjunction with CS. If not, then excessive use of CS would decimate our immune system by wiping out the bacteria in our gut. But it does not. The exact mechanisms of CS are still beyond our understanding. Yes we know it kills all pathogens, we know it generates stem cells, we know it kills cancer cells, and we know many different mechanisms for these actions. But there is still a lot of mystery there, as the contradictions remain unexplained. 2. I do not agree that the Herxheimer reaction is a fallacy. It is caused by the toxic excretions and litter of dying pathogens. I have a lot of first hand experience with this from using the Beck Protocol. Dr. Robert Beck recognized this problem and included ozonated water to deal with it. Ozonated water is incredibly effective at neutralizing and eliminating waste from the body, and thus preventing the Herxheimer reaction. Myself and family members have experienced the difference many times. (The Beck Protocol is highly likely to cause a strong Herxheimer reaction if you don't include the ozonated water... and sometimes we are too lazy to make the ozonated water... and then are pointedly reminded how effective it is). Again, I agree with your general idea of not taking 'medicine' every day. However, I no longer view CS as a medicine. It is certainly not a drug. I know it is not a nutrient or supplement either, but I am just not sure how to categorize it at this point. We are practically invulnerable with the right diet, and Dr. Weston A. Price has done a great job of documenting that. Best to follow his dietary guidance and keep a bottle of CS in my pocket, just in case ;-) Victor On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote: The whole Herx thing is a bit controversial. Some say it means all the bad stuff is dying off, and some say it is a bad reaction to the medicine. It was invented to explain away why some PPL react to Penicillin . Either way I am not in the take medicine everyday camp because anything that kills bacteria is not selective contrary to what some PPL like to believe, as if it kills one thing, it will inevitably kill the good guys too. Since there is more bacteria in your body than cells and since the bacteria are living symbiotically with you, then you are destroying that which keeps you healthy. Basically symbiotically means that you each benefit each other. Bacteria is responsible for everything from digestion to consuming poisons, keeping the bad guys in check and no doubt many more things. I read once that speculation is that the reason us humans do so well despite having a small genome is that we have co-opted the genome of all the symbiotic bacteria in us. Some PPL take a variety of things daily such as MMS, H2O2 etc. and I say that is nonsense. You have a defence system for a reason. Yes when it is overloaded because of your poor dietary habits then help it out, but find out what you are doing wrong and fix that. Depending on some substance everyday to survive is a fool's paradise AFAIAC. That is why probiotics and yogurt and all of the other fermented foods give PPL such a healthy gut... bacteria are your friend. Alan On 2014-09-01, at 23:59 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: AJ, I think dosage depends largely on your overall health. Some people need more than others. A would recommend a glass a day as a starting point, and increase it as you feel the need. And I mean increase it within the same day. If I had a bad flu with a fever, I would probably drink four glasses a day, or even more. You cannot overdose on CS, and making it at home means that it is practically free. So if I don't feel some improvement within hours, I will keep drinking more. I keep plastic bottles filled with it so that I can just keep drinking all day and all night. Another point to consider is that symptoms - fever, stuffy nose, etc., will often continue after the body has 'won' the battle, as those are our body's defense mechanisms, and It simply takes time for the body to shut them down. So you really have to judge how you 'feel' in a more holistic way. You can feel great with a mild fever and some congestion, or you could feel terrible. In either case, keep drinking the CS for some days after you feel great, to make sure that you don't relapse. If you have never
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Hi Victor, I guess we are very close. :) Re: cancer, I am comfortable accepting that it is not the cells that need to be destroyed. Royal Rife videod (?sp) the destruction of cancer viruses many years ago and the vids are around on the net on Rife type device sites. Additionally there are Youtubes of (I believe) James Bare videoing the same thing. Don't get me wrong about a Herx, It may very well be true however, I know in the Rife world PPL blame every adverse reaction on a Herxheimer reaction, so this is my point. Even when PPL run the machines at too high a power setting and the patient is very uncomfortable the operator sometimes blames it on H reaction. I said it was controversial and this is one of the reasons why. PPL call overdosing Herxing when really it is just an OD. Alan On 2014-09-02, at 16:07 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: Hi Alan, I agree with your general premise of not taking medicine every day. Indeed, it is my goal to perfect my diet and environment, and not take CS every day. And I also think it was great that you mentioned probiotics. Kefir is part of my daily diet. However, I am a bit dismayed by two other things you said, and I would like to put my thoughts out there for discussion: 1. I do not agree with assumptions about CS indiscriminately killing all bacteria in our body, as research and experience contradict that. Nobody yet knows for sure all the exact mechanisms of CS. It seems much more likely that our body somehow works in conjunction with CS. If not, then excessive use of CS would decimate our immune system by wiping out the bacteria in our gut. But it does not. The exact mechanisms of CS are still beyond our understanding. Yes we know it kills all pathogens, we know it generates stem cells, we know it kills cancer cells, and we know many different mechanisms for these actions. But there is still a lot of mystery there, as the contradictions remain unexplained. 2. I do not agree that the Herxheimer reaction is a fallacy. It is caused by the toxic excretions and litter of dying pathogens. I have a lot of first hand experience with this from using the Beck Protocol. Dr. Robert Beck recognized this problem and included ozonated water to deal with it. Ozonated water is incredibly effective at neutralizing and eliminating waste from the body, and thus preventing the Herxheimer reaction. Myself and family members have experienced the difference many times. (The Beck Protocol is highly likely to cause a strong Herxheimer reaction if you don't include the ozonated water... and sometimes we are too lazy to make the ozonated water... and then are pointedly reminded how effective it is). Again, I agree with your general idea of not taking 'medicine' every day. However, I no longer view CS as a medicine. It is certainly not a drug. I know it is not a nutrient or supplement either, but I am just not sure how to categorize it at this point. We are practically invulnerable with the right diet, and Dr. Weston A. Price has done a great job of documenting that. Best to follow his dietary guidance and keep a bottle of CS in my pocket, just in case ;-) Victor On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote: The whole Herx thing is a bit controversial. Some say it means all the bad stuff is dying off, and some say it is a bad reaction to the medicine. It was invented to explain away why some PPL react to Penicillin . Either way I am not in the take medicine everyday camp because anything that kills bacteria is not selective contrary to what some PPL like to believe, as if it kills one thing, it will inevitably kill the good guys too. Since there is more bacteria in your body than cells and since the bacteria are living symbiotically with you, then you are destroying that which keeps you healthy. Basically symbiotically means that you each benefit each other. Bacteria is responsible for everything from digestion to consuming poisons, keeping the bad guys in check and no doubt many more things. I read once that speculation is that the reason us humans do so well despite having a small genome is that we have co-opted the genome of all the symbiotic bacteria in us. Some PPL take a variety of things daily such as MMS, H2O2 etc. and I say that is nonsense. You have a defence system for a reason. Yes when it is overloaded because of your poor dietary habits then help it out, but find out what you are doing wrong and fix that. Depending on some substance everyday to survive is a fool's paradise AFAIAC. That is why probiotics and yogurt and all of the other fermented foods give PPL such a healthy gut... bacteria are your friend. Alan On 2014-09-01, at 23:59 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: AJ, I think dosage depends largely on your overall health. Some people need more than others. A would recommend a glass a day as a starting point, and increase it as you feel the need. And I mean increase it within the same day.
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G'day Alan, Did I mention there will be differing opinions and beliefs earlier? g Disagree in part with some of what you say. Yes, good bacteria are our best friend, and we are covered both externally and internally with 'em. As you say, and as I understand it, both good and bad live in harmony with each other both in and on us, and providing they are kept in suitable healthy balance all is well. People talk about our gut flora being destroyed by this stuff, well as I said earlier, I've been ingesting a small amount every single day for 10 odd years and have never had any issues. Coupled with my daily intake, if I suspect I am coming down with something I up that dose to roughly 800ml to 1 litre per day for several days, still nothing untoward occurring with my gut flora. It should be remembered that what we make in our kitchen is *not* the same as what is purchased 'over the counter', the so called 'Colloidal Silver'. I have yet to find any literature which associates undesirable effects to the ingestion of our product. Literature regarding the so called 'CS' is in abundance ad nauseam in the public domain, but not about this stuff, well, not that I've found anyway. I have never had the need to replenish my gut flora with probiotics or any other stuff, similarly I have never taken Selenium {or whatever it's called} as is recommended by some whilst imbibing in EIS {nothing wrong with my fingernails either}. When literature is in short supply there is only one way to find things out...Self! Bucket loads of innuendo, misinformation, disinformation and guilt by association, but nothing that holds up in credibility or relevance to what we make and take in my book. The Herx thing: When I first started this EIS journey I used to ingest considerably more per day than I have done in more recent years, and I did feel a little 'off' initially, even to the point whereby others would inform me that I appeared to look 'yellowish', I put this down to toxins being destroyed and not being eliminated from my system fast enough, perhaps kidneys were working overtime? Was this Herx? Don't know, but if that was anything to go by I deduced there *could* be something in what is said about Herx reaction and ingestion of too much silver? Back then I used to use rain water which is not be the same as using DW. I was also then using an uncontrolled battery operated unit as well, which lab results gave as excess of 40ppm total silver content. Perhaps these were the reasons of my feeling a little 'off'? Again, it should be clearly understood that what we make and take is nothing like what is purchased over the counter. The only similarity is there is silver in both products, but that's about as far as it goes for me. In what form? What particle quantity? What particle size? Particle distribution? What is the ppm of that product? What is added to the water as a stabiliser in the higher ppm stuff, or even the standard ppm stuff for all I know? What does accepted published literature define as a 'colloidal' product, it's not what we make from the literature I've read? Was it produced using HVAC or LVDC? Just to name a few. Now couple all this with what actually occurs when *our* product enters the blood stream or system? I don't believe anyone really knows? Chemistry books may state one thing, and most will have their own opinion and beliefs {just as I do}, but reality may state something else entirely? It comes back to innuendo, misinformation, disinformation and guilt by association for me? If you can provide me with informative, in depth {and I mean 'in depth'} suitably researched literature outlining exactly what occurs with our product, i.e. Predominantly Ionic Silver solution, when it enters the blood circulatory system or body, and how, if, and why it changes when it hits the circulatory system, I'd like to read it. But it must be relevant to what *we* make and take/apply/use/sniff/snort/rub on/rub in or bath in and not the better known and popularly marketed 'CS' g. I do however agree with your last sentence, re, h202 and all the rest of it. If people are combining anything or using anything in addition to, or in conjunction with EIS, then all my bets are off. In conclusion...I guess all my cells must be fairly tough, I have never felt anything 'undesirable', or look anything different to what I have always looked, apart from getting uglier as I age g. N. From: ala...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSIntroduction-Hello Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:34:04 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com The whole Herx thing is a bit controversial. Some say it means all the bad stuff is dying off, and some say it is a bad reaction to the medicine. It was invented to explain away why some PPL react to Penicillin . Either way I am not in the take medicine everyday camp because anything that kills bacteria is not selective contrary to what some PPL like
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Hi Neville, Just a thought. In some cases just drinking a lot of water by itself will clean out the system and in the case of some PPL might be the only water they drink. However having said that somePPL drink wa too much of the stuff, but that is another rant. ;) When you say small amount what do you mean? In Ayurveda they define the affect of a number of metals ie cooking with copper is poisonous, and yet one Ay. proscription is to put some water in a copper glass and leave it overnight and drink on arising. Copper has a cleansing effect, but cooking with it puts way too much copper in and it becomes poisonous. I find this recipe to be too strong for me BTW. Also in AY. they suggest consuming silver to encourage the conception of a male. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet I cannot comment on whether it is advisable to consume it regularly, as there is no way to know how you would be faring otherwise. BTW I am not saying there is anything wrong with consuming silver but Ay. says it has a cooling effect so if someone had a cooler body type it might not be a good idea. Gold for instance is heating so I have problems with water infused with gold. Al On 2014-09-02, at 17:24 PM, Neville wrote: G'day Alan, Did I mention there will be differing opinions and beliefs earlier? g Disagree in part with some of what you say. Yes, good bacteria are our best friend, and we are covered both externally and internally with 'em. As you say, and as I understand it, both good and bad live in harmony with each other both in and on us, and providing they are kept in suitable healthy balance all is well. People talk about our gut flora being destroyed by this stuff, well as I said earlier, I've been ingesting a small amount every single day for 10 odd years and have never had any issues. Coupled with my daily intake, if I suspect I am coming down with something I up that dose to roughly 800ml to 1 litre per day for several days, still nothing untoward occurring with my gut flora. It should be remembered that what we make in our kitchen is *not* the same as what is purchased 'over the counter', the so called 'Colloidal Silver'. I have yet to find any literature which associates undesirable effects to the ingestion of our product. Literature regarding the so called 'CS' is in abundance ad nauseam in the public domain, but not about this stuff, well, not that I've found anyway. I have never had the need to replenish my gut flora with probiotics or any other stuff, similarly I have never taken Selenium {or whatever it's called} as is recommended by some whilst imbibing in EIS {nothing wrong with my fingernails either}. When literature is in short supply there is only one way to find things out...Self! Bucket loads of innuendo, misinformation, disinformation and guilt by association, but nothing that holds up in credibility or relevance to what we make and take in my book. The Herx thing: When I first started this EIS journey I used to ingest considerably more per day than I have done in more recent years, and I did feel a little 'off' initially, even to the point whereby others would inform me that I appeared to look 'yellowish', I put this down to toxins being destroyed and not being eliminated from my system fast enough, perhaps kidneys were working overtime? Was this Herx? Don't know, but if that was anything to go by I deduced there *could* be something in what is said about Herx reaction and ingestion of too much silver? Back then I used to use rain water which is not be the same as using DW. I was also then using an uncontrolled battery operated unit as well, which lab results gave as excess of 40ppm total silver content. Perhaps these were the reasons of my feeling a little 'off'? Again, it should be clearly understood that what we make and take is nothing like what is purchased over the counter. The only similarity is there is silver in both products, but that's about as far as it goes for me. In what form? What particle quantity? What particle size? Particle distribution? What is the ppm of that product? What is added to the water as a stabiliser in the higher ppm stuff, or even the standard ppm stuff for all I know? What does accepted published literature define as a 'colloidal' product, it's not what we make from the literature I've read? Was it produced using HVAC or LVDC? Just to name a few. Now couple all this with what actually occurs when *our* product enters the blood stream or system? I don't believe anyone really knows? Chemistry books may state one thing, and most will have their own opinion and beliefs {just as I do}, but reality may state something else entirely? It comes back to innuendo, misinformation, disinformation and guilt by association for me? If you can provide me with informative, in depth {and I mean 'in depth'} suitably
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Subject: Re: CSIntroduction-Hello From: ala...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:55:27 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Neville, Just a thought. In some cases just drinking a lot of water by itself will clean out the system and in the case of some PPL might be the only water they drink. However having said that somePPL drink wa too much of the stuff, but that is another rant. ;) ## Yes, apparently drinking copious amounts of water when beginning the EIS journey, if one has never taken it before, is popularly recommended to flush the system of any 'debris?' which may be created by that EIS? When you say small amount what do you mean? ## Between 30 and 50ml a day before breakfast when the mouth is driest - faster and more immediate absorption. A drop in the ocean in the scheme of things I know, but considering 99.9 recurring % of food and produce is being tampered with in one way or another more and more in the world, not forgetting vaccinations available by the dozen {of which I don't partake in or of}, I figure any help with my natural immune system, which is being slowly but surely destroyed by the aforesaid, can only be a good thing. I'll have a better idea in another 10-20 years maybe, hopefully I'll still have as many to go before reaching my 'use by' date g. In Ayurveda they define the affect of a number of metals ie cooking with copper is poisonous, and yet one Ay. proscription is to put some water in a copper glass and leave it overnight and drink on arising. Copper has a cleansing effect, but cooking with it puts way too much copper in and it becomes poisonous. I find this recipe to be too strong for me BTW. ## Copper is also a good bactericide apparently, but I know nothing about that. They say aluminium cooking pots create mental issues as well, aluminium accumulating in the brain, {Pineal gland or somewhere?} and yet my ancestors used *only* aluminium cookware back then, and seemingly there was nothing like the numbers of mental issues etc then as there are today. That should pose some questions for someone? Also in AY. they suggest consuming silver to encourage the conception of a male. ## Seeing as you mention this, I can say that most of the males I associated with in my younger day, in the structural steel trade and steel producing environment, all had boys? This I have always found interesting? Why did so many of my male associates produce boys? It had nothing to do with silver back then. Back then one did not have the facilities to find out if the mother was carrying a boy or girl either, to wit it was a popular topic of conversation...Will it be a boy or a girl? Predominantly boys, very interesting observation at the time. Boys seemed to far outnumber girl births for some strange reason? I often wondered if the work environment had something to do with it? But then on the other hand, we had two girls and one boy? Funny that, I said I wanted a boy, we got one, then I said I wanted a girl, we got one, then with the third I said I preferred a girl, and we got another girl. Perhaps I 'willed' the result? g. Although it's apparently the female that decides what sex the baby will be? There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet I cannot comment on whether it is advisable to consume it regularly, as there is no way to know how you would be faring otherwise. ## As above, I'll be in a better position to give an opinion on this in another 10-20 years maybe, but I'm doing far better than a lot of my contemporaries I must say. BTW I am not saying there is anything wrong with consuming silver but Ay. says it has a cooling effect so if someone had a cooler body type it might not be a good idea. Gold for instance is heating so I have problems with water infused with gold. ## That's fine Alan. I do find this 'cooling' aspect interesting though. I do feel the heat more than most. I keep telling my wife that when my use by date comes around it will most definitely be in the summer time g. Very interesting point you made. H.Perhaps I'd better not stop my EIS intake, it might just be that which is keeping the Grim Reaper away g. I know nothing about gold either. Al On 2014-09-02, at 17:24 PM, Neville wrote:G'day Alan, Did I mention there will be differing opinions and beliefs earlier? g Disagree in part with some of what you say. Yes, good bacteria are our best friend, and we are covered both externally and internally with 'em. As you say, and as I understand it, both good and bad live in harmony with each other both in and on us, and providing they are kept in suitable healthy balance all is well. People talk about our gut flora being destroyed by this stuff, well as I said earlier, I've been ingesting a small amount every single day for 10 odd years and have never had any issues. Coupled with my daily intake, if I suspect I am coming down
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I have never heard of any adverse effects (other than argyria) from colloidal silver of the type we make which is about 10 to 20 ppm made with pure silver and distilled water. I have never heard of seizures from this type of CS, or any other Colloidal silver, for that matter. However, I think it is incorrect to say that it is impossible to get argyria from properly made CS. If you have been paying attention on this list there are reports of several people who have gotten mild cases of argyria, but all of them were taking massive quantities for very long periods of time. Quarts or more a day for many months or years. Many others have taken large quantities for long periods of time with no argyria effects. I did a calculation at one time and determined that if one imbibed 1/4 cup of 10 ppm colloidal silver daily, that would be equivalent to the amount of silver that the EPA would allow in drinking water for a person who drinks a couple of quarts of water a day. So, presumably, one could take 1/4 cup of this daily for life and have absolutely no adverse effects per this EPA guideline. But, just as one would take a large dose of antibiotics for a short period of time but would not think of taking that dose continuously, I think one could take considerably more CS for a limited period of time without causing any fear of argyria. My feeling would be to give an infant or child 1/2 to 1 teaspoon at a time, and if they have an acute condition, repeat that about 3 times in the day or hourly, if necessary, and reduce frequency as they improve. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 7:13 PM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
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There are 3 teaspoons in 1 Tablespoon, 2 Tablespoons in 1 ounce, and 4 Tablespoons in 1/4 cup (2 ounces). That means there are 12 teaspoons in 1/4 cup. If you have food poisoning, take a much larger dose all at once, like 1 cup. Otherwise, many have found that relatively small doses taken more often are actually more effective. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I have never heard of any adverse effects (other than argyria) from colloidal silver of the type we make which is about 10 to 20 ppm made with pure silver and distilled water. I have never heard of seizures from this type of CS, or any other Colloidal silver, for that matter. However, I think it is incorrect to say that it is impossible to get argyria from properly made CS. If you have been paying attention on this list there are reports of several people who have gotten mild cases of argyria, but all of them were taking massive quantities for very long periods of time. Quarts or more a day for many months or years. Many others have taken large quantities for long periods of time with no argyria effects. I did a calculation at one time and determined that if one imbibed 1/4 cup of 10 ppm colloidal silver daily, that would be equivalent to the amount of silver that the EPA would allow in drinking water for a person who drinks a couple of quarts of water a day. So, presumably, one could take 1/4 cup of this daily for life and have absolutely no adverse effects per this EPA guideline. But, just as one would take a large dose of antibiotics for a short period of time but would not think of taking that dose continuously, I think one could take considerably more CS for a limited period of time without causing any fear of argyria. My feeling would be to give an infant or child 1/2 to 1 teaspoon at a time, and if they have an acute condition, repeat that about 3 times in the day or hourly, if necessary, and reduce frequency as they improve. On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 7:13 PM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
CSIntroduction-Hello
Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
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Hollie, i have used it with great success for 20 years for hundreds of different problems. It worked better than antibiotics for all. It must be made properly-to not get agraria. Simple to do. Www.silverpuppy.com is one supplier. I could write pages on my clients when I was a practicing ND. Search the net awhile. Buy A Miraculous health Substance by Marvin Robey. The Body Electric by Becker Search colloidal silver+Brigham Young university Then ask the group questions. I've always wondered what the 1920's and 1930's were like, but I never wanted to see it from the German perspective….. On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:13 PM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
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Hello Hollie, Glad you discovered CS (Colloidal Silver). Finding trusted information on the Internet is extremely difficult. I have countless success stories of my own, and there are many people on this mailing list with more knowledge and experience than me. Here are my answers to your questions: 1. There is nothing to worry about. Nobody turns blue if they have real CS. There are no side effects or drug interactions to worry about. 2. To ensure that you have good CS, I strongly recommend making your own. It is by far the safest and most cost effective way to get CS. I recommend www.silverpuppy.com but there are other good devices too. 3. I have been using CS that I make at home for nearly ten years. My ten year old daughter has never missed a day of school. She had ear infections, colds, etc., before I started CS, but nothing more than a hint since then. My wife and I are never sick from work either. We can all tell if we catch something, but it is eradicated or marginalized immediately by the CS. We have wiped out infections, toe fungus, and even pet issues. Over a dozen of my family members now use CS, and many now have their own devices. 4. Cancer, HIV, etc., yes, CS can be very effective. But it does have limits. The most effective protocol that I have ever seen for such is the Beck Protocol. CS is actually an important part of the Beck Protocol. More information can be found at http://www.bobbeck.com. My family has also had amazing experiences with the Beck Protocol. But in truth, CS is so incredibly effective against all pathogens that we rarely need it. One other recommendation I would like to make is nutritional guidance from the Weston A. Price Foundation. The work of Dr. Price is quite profound, and yet almost obvious. As a medical professional I think you will find his work quite interesting. I highly recommend his book. Here is a link to the guidance: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/dietary-guidelines/ Best of luck to you. You have come to a good place for CS information. Victor On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:13 AM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
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Welcome to the list! I don’t have much time to respond at the moment but I am sure others will chime in. 5 years ago I was in a similar state myself. Now I have four CS generators and make it for my friends and family. We are all believers in its power now. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! http://www.lyme-resource.com www.lyme-resource.com From: indiantadpole . [mailto:hollie.fl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 7:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSIntroduction-Hello Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence to support harmful side effects? Any success stories? Sorry so long... Looking to forward to hearing from you. -Hollie
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Victor, referring to your #3 below, how do you “use” CS—preventative/maintenance and/or acute/treatment? In other words, do you only take it when beginning to feel sick? Or do you take it routinely? When you do take it, how much, and how? I’ve probably been overly cautious with it so far, rarely taking any more than a spray or two internally, though I’ve started holding some in my mouth (avoiding swallowing) for 15min or so occasionally. I’m curious what dosing method/amount you’ve used to get the results you note of avoiding/minimizing sickness. Walter From: Victor Cozzetto [mailto:victor.cozze...@gmail.com] Sent: Mon, Sep. 1, 2014 18:06 To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIntroduction-Hello Hello Hollie, Glad you discovered CS (Colloidal Silver). Finding trusted information on the Internet is extremely difficult. I have countless success stories of my own, and there are many people on this mailing list with more knowledge and experience than me. Here are my answers to your questions: 1. There is nothing to worry about. Nobody turns blue if they have real CS. There are no side effects or drug interactions to worry about. 2. To ensure that you have good CS, I strongly recommend making your own. It is by far the safest and most cost effective way to get CS. I recommend www.silverpuppy.com http://www.silverpuppy.com but there are other good devices too. 3. I have been using CS that I make at home for nearly ten years. My ten year old daughter has never missed a day of school. She had ear infections, colds, etc., before I started CS, but nothing more than a hint since then. My wife and I are never sick from work either. We can all tell if we catch something, but it is eradicated or marginalized immediately by the CS. We have wiped out infections, toe fungus, and even pet issues. Over a dozen of my family members now use CS, and many now have their own devices. 4. Cancer, HIV, etc., yes, CS can be very effective. But it does have limits. The most effective protocol that I have ever seen for such is the Beck Protocol. CS is actually an important part of the Beck Protocol. More information can be found at http://www.bobbeck.com. My family has also had amazing experiences with the Beck Protocol. But in truth, CS is so incredibly effective against all pathogens that we rarely need it. One other recommendation I would like to make is nutritional guidance from the Weston A. Price Foundation. The work of Dr. Price is quite profound, and yet almost obvious. As a medical professional I think you will find his work quite interesting. I highly recommend his book. Here is a link to the guidance: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/dietary-guidelines/ Best of luck to you. You have come to a good place for CS information. Victor On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:13 AM, indiantadpole . hollie.fl...@gmail.com mailto:hollie.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to work in the traditional medical world, I am very interested in natural cures and remedies. My family and I eat very healthy, and we avoid most traditional medications. A co-worker recommended that I buy colloidal silver when my 15 month old son got sick for the very first time a few weeks ago. (He began daycare several weeks before that..) He was diagnosed with pneumonia, strep throat and bilateral ear infections. I reluctantly gave him the prescribed antibiotics and I didn't look into the silver. Then, a few days ago, he came down with a fever again, and after another visit to the ped, he was diagnosed with another set of ear infections, and prescribed to a heavier antibiotic- Augmentin. Yesterday, I was beside myself, wanting to do what's best for my son, but super reluctant to go through a whole new course of antibiotics just 3 weeks since his Amoxicillin. I did some research online about the colloidal silver, and I decided to go out and buy some. I also picked up the Augmentin, since I have no experience with the silver, and I gave him both. I used drops in his ears and I gave him 1 tsp by mouth. I also took 1 tsp, and gave my husband several tspns, as he is also ill. Today I was pretty surprised to see that there just doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about colloidal silver. I know that it is used in the ointment on newborns eyes after they are born, and also read that Nasa uses it to purify water. I don't doubt that it is beneficial. I am curious as to how beneficial. Could it be a cure for HIV//cancer? Also agraria- is this common? Should I be worried? Of course, I don't want my baby's skin to turn blue! Then I read that it can cause neurological issues like seizures. Does anyone have any evidence
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Hi Hollie, Welcome to the Group. There is no doubt you have joined, in my opinion, the best Group for no BS down to earth information, there are no hidden agendas, ego's or sales pitches, only openness and honesty is to be found here. However, you may find there are differing opinions and viewpoints on some aspects, but that's to be expected with any Group, and is healthy as everyone has a voice and deserves to be heard. NASA has been using it in their space programs since the 60's. I am led to believe the US Military is investigating it as we speak? The Russians back in the 50's engineered Movidyn as a defence against biowarfare, it destroyed every germ, bacteria etc and designer poison they tried it on. Movidyn is Colloidal Silver. However, I imagine they used powdered silver back then, today we use the LVDC electrolysis method in the home - maximum benefit, minimal risk, although I maintain *Nil* risk if a modicum of common sense is used. Why do I mention 'common sense'? Guess that's my disclaimer, back covering I think it's called g. Argyria? On writing to our TGA some years ago, asking for documented cases or reports of *any* undesirable effects they had from the ingestion and/or use of the LVDC predominantly ionic silver solution, they were unable to provide any. Quoted plenty regarding the so called 'CS', but nothing relating to what we produce. All they could provide was the same old regurgitated misinformation, disinformation, propaganda, innuendo and guilt by association ad nauseam rubbish which can be found anywhere in the public domain. Neurological seizures? Unless my opinions, determinations and beliefs can be considered 'Neurological seizures', I haven't had any in all the time I've been ingesting this stuff g. Some may suggest I have a Neurological 'Disorder' perhaps. I've been ingesting a small maintenance dose every morning before breakfast for nigh on ten years, could be longer now. Success stories? Yep, plenty, and from many others here as well. Ask and ye shall receive g. It is not a 'cure all', but dang it must come horribly close from my experience. Evidence of harmful side effects? Sorry, can't help you with this one, nothing to report. How beneficial? In my opinion efficacy is proportionate to amount ingested. It's not about the PPM, it's more about quality and quantity consumed, and I'm not talking about piddly teaspoons with the home made product, I'm talking about full glasses. N. Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:13:35 -0400 From: hollie.fl...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSIntroduction-Hello Hi everyone. I'm not sure how to make a post, hopefully this is correct. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Hollie, I am a cardiac nurse, a mom and a wife. Although I am trained and employed to