Re: [RCSE] First time foam wing construction questions

2001-09-20 Thread Alan Bangham



With a fair number of questions regarding foam and balsa wing construction I 
want to let people know that I have a page devoted to this type of 
construction on my website. I also have a number of HLG, slope/electric 
wings for sale on my Web Sale page. Some are completed and some are through 
the vacume bag. They are truly beautious! Here is my home page, follow the 
links, some have lost their highlighting but seem to be working ok.  
http://www.blarg.net/~wingman

Alan Bangham

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Re: [RCSE] spining spoons Wind meter

2001-09-20 Thread Cesar Managad

That sounds like something good to experiment with. I wonder if the back EMF
generated by the motor would have to be compensated for when doing the speed
calculations in light vs. strong wind.  And, what's an easy way of
calibrating the device if you don't already have a wind meter?

- Original Message -
From: tony estep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] spining spoons Wind meter



 You can make one out of a little electric motor, three half-ping-pong
 balls, and a milliammeter with a pot in series with it to provide
 calibration. Crude, but possible.


 --- Jorge Elizondo Margain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been searching the net to try to find a wind meter of thee
  three
  spoons kind; something that we can take to the slope with us.
 
  I've seen pictures in QFI magazine of a portable, brick-size unit
  with the
  spinning spoons on top and a big 2-digit LCD display. That's what I
  want
  but I cannot find anything like that on the net. Most of what I found
  were
  the more sophisticated, weather station kind of thing and of course
  the
  kestrel models.
 
  Does anybody know where to find one?
 

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Re: [RCSE] spining spoons Wind meter

2001-09-20 Thread jaffee

Quite a while ago (and I can't remeber where), someone posted a link about
making this sort of spinning windmeter that  used a bicycle speedometer for
the readout.  It seemed pretty clever.

At 01:44 AM 9/20/01 -0700, Cesar Managad wrote:
That sounds like something good to experiment with. I wonder if the back EMF
generated by the motor would have to be compensated for when doing the speed
calculations in light vs. strong wind.  And, what's an easy way of
calibrating the device if you don't already have a wind meter?

- Original Message -
From: tony estep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] spining spoons Wind meter



 You can make one out of a little electric motor, three half-ping-pong
 balls, and a milliammeter with a pot in series with it to provide
 calibration. Crude, but possible.


 --- Jorge Elizondo Margain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been searching the net to try to find a wind meter of thee
  three
  spoons kind; something that we can take to the slope with us.
 
  I've seen pictures in QFI magazine of a portable, brick-size unit
  with the
  spinning spoons on top and a big 2-digit LCD display. That's what I
  want
  but I cannot find anything like that on the net. Most of what I found
  were
  the more sophisticated, weather station kind of thing and of course
  the
  kestrel models.
 
  Does anybody know where to find one?
 

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Re: [RCSE] spining spoons Wind meter

2001-09-20 Thread Drew Menser

I have some scans of a RS project that shows how to make your own. It does require 
that you have Adobe Acrobat to view.

http://216.117.88.120/whirlwinds/projects.htm

CU,
Drew

Jorge Elizondo Margain wrote:

 I've been searching the net to try to find a wind meter of thee three
 spoons kind; something that we can take to the slope with us.

 I've seen pictures in QFI magazine of a portable, brick-size unit with the
 spinning spoons on top and a big 2-digit LCD display. That's what I want
 but I cannot find anything like that on the net. Most of what I found were
 the more sophisticated, weather station kind of thing and of course the
 kestrel models.

 Does anybody know where to find one?

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Re: [RCSE] calculating height using small angle formula

2001-09-20 Thread Pete S.

Here's what I came up with. Let's say my two split
fingers are 1/4 apart 22 from my eyeball. I'll need
an angular 
measurement for that so the circumference around my
eye would be 2piR = 138.16. That divided by my 1/4
finger
spread = 552.64. This must be converted to degrees so
552.64 / 360º = 1.535º.  This is the angular measure
from my eye to my outstretched fingers. Now the
formula I got from 
http://www.astro.lsa.umich.edu/users/emiller/astro125/geom/geom.html#smallangle
looks like this d = a / 360º x 2piR = aR / 57.3º.
In our case d = wingspan, a = angular measurement, and
R is the elusive distance to glider (altitude AGL if
the plane is 
directly above our heads). So, solving for R, if my
glider has a 100 span: 100 / 1.535º x 57.3 = 3732
or 311 feet.
If I plug in your plane and antenna dia. of .34 and
distance from eye = 26  we have 78 / 1.33 x 57.3 =
3360 or 280 feet.
I did these over and over and can't find fault. This,
however, does not mean I'm sure I'm right. I can't
find any text
with the formula you give. Can you point me in the
right direction?
Am I all screwed up here?
Thanks,
Pete
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 18 September 2001, Pete S. wrote:
 
  How do I solve for R?
 
 Assuming you are asking how to make a cheap
 rangefinder for judging how far away a glider is:
 
 Several convenient, no cost rangefinders are
 available to you now.
 
 The basic principle involved is that a small opject
 held at arms length can visually cove a much larger
 object at a distance.
 
 For example the Tx antenna diameter can be used as a
 distance gauge. There is some distance that allows
 you to just barely cover the wingspan of your glider
 with the diameter of the antenna. A no math way to
 do this is to have a buddy hold up the glider near a
 straight section of road. Then you just drive down
 the road a bit and see how far you need to go before
 the antenna diameter can just barely cover the
 wingspan. (hold out the Tx at arms length). You can
 do the same thing with other objects on the Tx such
 as the handle diameter. 
 
 If you want to calculate the distances to get an
 idea of what kinds of range you will be working at
 you can do some small math as follows.
 
 distance_to_glider = wingspan / antenna_diameter *
 eye_to_antenna_distance
 
 The antenna diameter on my airtronics Tx is 0.34.
 The eye_to_antenna distance is 26. Wingspan is 78
 
 So when the antenna just barely covers the wingspan
 it is
 
  78 / 0.34 * 26 = 5965 inches which is 497 feet
 away.
 
 Be advised that the eye_antenna distance changes
 with angle of veiw. Horizontally for me it's 26 and
 vertically it's 22.
 Also on my Tx the antenna button is also 0.34 and
 if I point the antenna directly at the ship the
 eye_to_antenna_button distance is about 72. The
 distance that the ship would be at when the antenna
 button just covers the wingspan would be 1376 feet. 


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[RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE

2001-09-20 Thread Jeff Reid

Well it looks like the ISP that I have had for the past 6 years is going
under so just incase I will need to how do I get back on RCSE?

I had to do the same a while back. Get a hotmail account, that way
you'll have an email address that won't change if you change ISP's
again later on. (I us both hotmail and ISP mail account).



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Re: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE

2001-09-20 Thread Kjell-Arne Fjelde

I second that.
I have had my hotmail for as long as I can remember.
It´s been with me thru at least 3-4 different ISP´s.

And with outlook express one can synch the program with the hotmail account. 
So you get both the regular mail and the hotmail downloaded into OE. And 
when not at home the hotmail is always available thru the www.

Cheers
Kjelli


my wings page : http://www.cirrus-rcfk.no/fw



From: Jeff Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 04:04:51 -0700

 Well it looks like the ISP that I have had for the past 6 years is going
 under so just incase I will need to how do I get back on RCSE?

I had to do the same a while back. Get a hotmail account, that way
you'll have an email address that won't change if you change ISP's
again later on. (I us both hotmail and ISP mail account).



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RE: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE

2001-09-20 Thread Stefan Smets

FWIW, I'm doing this since years (not with Hotmail but with Advalvas in
Belgium) and:

And when not at home the hotmail is always available thru the www.

at work, I receive my mail with Outlook 2000 also, but I selected the option
to leave a copy on the server, so that I'll receive the same message at home
(I do have a broadband connection ..) to archive it if necessary. Both my
real ISP and Advalvas also allow me to check my mail through the WWW.

Stefan.


From: Jeff Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 04:04:51 -0700

 Well it looks like the ISP that I have had for the past 6 years is going
 under so just incase I will need to how do I get back on RCSE?

I had to do the same a while back. Get a hotmail account, that way
you'll have an email address that won't change if you change ISP's
again later on. (I us both hotmail and ISP mail account).


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Re: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE

2001-09-20 Thread SilentFlight

When not at home, you can check any POP-3 email via several web gateways.
www.mailstart.com comes to mind immediately, but there are others.


- Original Message -
From: Kjell-Arne Fjelde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE


 I second that.
 I have had my hotmail for as long as I can remember.
 It´s been with me thru at least 3-4 different ISP´s.

 And with outlook express one can synch the program with the hotmail
account.
 So you get both the regular mail and the hotmail downloaded into OE. And
 when not at home the hotmail is always available thru the www.

 Cheers
 Kjelli


 my wings page : http://www.cirrus-rcfk.no/fw



 From: Jeff Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE
 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 04:04:51 -0700
 
  Well it looks like the ISP that I have had for the past 6 years is
going
  under so just incase I will need to how do I get back on RCSE?
 
 I had to do the same a while back. Get a hotmail account, that way
 you'll have an email address that won't change if you change ISP's
 again later on. (I us both hotmail and ISP mail account).
 
 
 
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Re: [RCSE] spining spoons Wind meter

2001-09-20 Thread Chris Barker

Jorge,

Try this website:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jbremner/wind.html

Chris


Jorge Elizondo Margain wrote:
 
 I've been searching the net to try to find a wind meter of thee three
 spoons kind; something that we can take to the slope with us.
 
 I've seen pictures in QFI magazine of a portable, brick-size unit with the
 spinning spoons on top and a big 2-digit LCD display. That's what I want
 but I cannot find anything like that on the net. Most of what I found were
 the more sophisticated, weather station kind of thing and of course the
 kestrel models.
 
 Does anybody know where to find one?
 
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE

2001-09-20 Thread Kjelli

The hotmail is syncronised with OE, not downloaded.
The difference is that when i check my mail in OE, I do not download the mails locally 
onto that machine. The machine is only syncronised with the hotmail.

When deleting mails in OE they are deleted on the hotmail account.
The OE syncronises itself every time I send and recieve mail. 

The hotmail is not dependant of the ISP.
I have a own hotmail account just for RCSE. 

Go to hotmail and set up an account, it´s free. And set it up in OE. You´ll soon see 
the difference between this and a regular POP3 account.

Cheers
Kjelli


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[RCSE] JW v2.0??

2001-09-20 Thread Raymond



I heard there is a new JW with improved fuse 
design. but I checked Pat's web page today and it was the same old one in 
the photos. I still have one old one in the box...
Raymond Wong
Hong Kong


Re: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE

2001-09-20 Thread Bill Harris

That is what I have done, too.  I use the freebie Hotmail account 
exclusively for RCSE and reserve my mindspring account for non-hobby use.  
I can access RCSE either via a Web Browser or an eMail program.

--Bill


From: Jeff Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] Re: Getting back on RCSE
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 04:04:51 -0700

 Well it looks like the ISP that I have had for the past 6 years is going
 under so just incase I will need to how do I get back on RCSE?

I had to do the same a while back. Get a hotmail account, that way
you'll have an email address that won't change if you change ISP's
again later on. (I us both hotmail and ISP mail account).



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Re: [RCSE] a bit of help please !!

2001-09-20 Thread Bill Harris

Can't do much about the personal correspondence you've lost, but the RCSE 
archive has most every RCSE post for a few years back:

http://www.mail-archive.com/soaring@airage.com/

--Bill


From: John McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] a bit of help please !!
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:03:22 -0400

Well, sometimes things don't go the way they should, and this is one of 
those times . My computer decided to pack up and ate about  four plus  
years worth of gleanings from the exchange and valuable info from 
correspondence with many on the exchange . Plus addresses ! To top it off I 
was just about to get back to my unfinished Graphite which has
  waited through a move and building a house only to find every thing but 
the instructions . so does any of you kind folks have a source of the 
graphite manual ??
AND ... any setup suggestions would be appreciated as well .
as always , all the best . John McCloskey
 West Sunbury ,Pa.


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Re: [RCSE] spining spoons Wind meter

2001-09-20 Thread Iflyicrash

Just go to www.google.comand type in anemometer.  Or go here for a 
company selling them.  Bill Grenoble
 A 
HREF=http://www.davisnet.com/weather/products/weather_product.asp?pnum=7911;
Click here: Davis - Weather - Anemometer, Standard/A 
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Re: [RCSE] Omega 2M from Northeast Sailplane

2001-09-20 Thread Frank Jarratt

 Does anyone out there have any experience with assembly, setup and flying of the 
Omega 2M from NESP?

I finished mine last night, and hope to fly this weekend.

I reinforced the front wing mount and tied both the front and rear wing mounts to a 
long towhook block, since I want to try ballast.
This arrangement should also allow the wing mount to carry more of the stress from the 
launch. (The rear wing mount has 1/4 plywood
block under the wing. I did the same in the front, then added a simple plywood 
bulkhead that extends from where the wing plugs in
front, down to the towhook block. I added a similar bulkhead under the rear wing 
mount.)

Wing servos are a problem. The Omega 2M has thin airfoil and LARGE control surfaces. I 
used Volz Micro Maxx for the flaps, and
HS-81MG for the ailerons. I had to grind away some rib area to make room. The servos 
are glued onto 1/32 plywood that is expoxyed
to the wing. Servos are covered with MM Glidertech servo patches. The finished height 
of both sets of servos is about 1MM too high
to mount flush with the wing surface. The produce a slight bump under the patches. I 
considered the new JR micro digital servos. Any
suggestions for next time?

Frank

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Re: [RCSE] The year's most significant development in R/C soaring?

2001-09-20 Thread Jim Bacus

At 06:31 PM 9/20/2001, James C Deck wrote:
What was the most significant development in R/C soaring this year and why?

I wouldn't call it a development, but one of the most significant events 
this year in R/C soaring was Daryl Perkins becoming the F3B world champion 
for a fourth time.


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III
ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net

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[RCSE] Newsletters

2001-09-20 Thread Bert Magin

I am considering becoming the club's newsletter editor.
To that end I have some questions for you other editors (or past editors):
How many hours a spent per newsletter?
What software tools are used?
Any warnings? Encouragement? Do you think I'm nuts?
Will I be stuck forever?

Bert


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Re: [RCSE] The Attack

2001-09-20 Thread James Osborn


Well Barrett, how'd you like THAT speech?  I agree GW was not shining in the
beginning.  Indeed, I didn't think it possible for him to come across as genuine
and intelligent at all, ever.  But even I have to admit THAT was a good speech. 
Let's hope that this is a new and permanent side of GW we are now seeing.

To keep it on topic, the explosion of DS is my favorite thing this year.

-- James

Barrett Stridiron wrote:
 
 Grr.
 
 GWB instilled not a bit of confidence with his national address this
 morning. I came away from that speech angry, frustrated, and embarrassed for
 our nation. He looked like Curious George the monkey, blinking his eyes,
 appearing calm and collected, conveying not a bit of the menace I'm sure
 most of the nation was hoping for. I am ashamed and sad knowing that we have
 Bush as our LEADER. Hearing Bush's words, along with all of the other
 leaders who are supposedly representative of our nation, and seeing the
 members of Congress struggle through a staged rendition of America the
 Beautiful made me feel like I'm a citizen of a second-rate power.
 
 I think there's a big difference between appearing to be unaffected and
 looking like an idiot, and simply appearing to be unaffected, yet pissed off
 and deadly serious. Bush, with his constant eyeblinking, mispronouncement of
 simple words and linguistic stammering, made me feel embarrassed and SCARED
 for our country, and extremely angry on behalf of those who have fought for
 the freedom and democracy that Bush has promised to protect.
 
 Let's review some facts...
 
 W is an inexperienced leader when it comes to world affairs = TRUE
 W is probably scared, just like the rest of us = TRUE
 
 What kind of leader issues 2 min. prepared statements and refuses to speak
 with the nation during this crisis? I was all for stand behind the
 President during our time of crisis but this guy is a wooden puppet.
 Freaking Guliani makes him look like a fool.
 
 They won't let him take questions because all it is going to take is one
 fuxored remark to the press to permanently shake public confidence that
 Dubya is up to the job.
 
 *I* know Dubya isn't up to the job, but Cheney, Powell and the DOD are.
 
 All I want from Dubya is to do his speeches, read off the cue-cards and be
 reassuring.
 Then I want him to get out of the way and let the adults run the show.
 
 It is our RIGHT to question whether Bush can handle this situation; it is
 his JOB to prove he can.
 
 This is the end of an era - of American innocence and (hopefully)
 complacency. We've been giving (and given) plenty of lip service about what
 sort of a dangerous world it is. Well, this is about as rude of a wake-up
 call as it comes, short of a couple of backpack nukes (I guess Osama
 couldn't afford those.  Wonder if he invested in any dot-coms last year?)
 
 What does this all mean? I think a lot of my lefty friends are going to be
 bugging out about the rise of an American police state and about how a lot
 of personal freedoms will be compromised in the wake of these events. And to
 a certain extent, this will happen, but it's an inevitable compromise.
 Adolescence is over, folks. Time to grow up.
 
 What happened yesterday is the mild equivalent of someone walking into your
 house and torching your living room because you left your doors and windows
 unlocked. Feel violated? Oh yeah. Hopefully from now on, we'll start locking
 the doors and keep that Desert Eagle AE handy when greeting visitors.
 
 BTW: if you haven't given blood yet, DO IT.  Type O+ is critically needed;
 your single donation can help save up to three lives.
 To find out where you can donate, call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.
 
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Re: [RCSE] The Attack

2001-09-20 Thread Brett Jaffee



James Osborn wrote:

 To keep it on topic, the explosion of DS is my favorite thing this year.
 

Try not to use explosion and DS in the same sentenceit's bad luck.

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Re: [RCSE] The year's most significant development in R/C soaring?

2001-09-20 Thread tony estep

Ah Jim, great post! I'm an RES partisan and a lover of cruciform tails,
but for long-term impact on the sport I'd say that there were three
biggies: DS, sidearm, and the release of Xfoil into the public domain.
And ya know, three big developments in a single year is pretty cool!


  What was the most significant development in R/C soaring this year
 and why?
  
  Was it:
  - The resurgence of cruciform tails.
  - The development of the sidearm launch.
  - The F3J stake issue.
  -  Breaking the $1000 barrier for a competitive molded sailplane.
  -  The popularity of RES.
  -  Dynamic Soaring.
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Re: [RCSE] The year's most significant development in R/C soaring?

2001-09-20 Thread RCsoarnut

Hey Rudy

  Wait till the Three Legged Dog sales take off!  I've already had an offer 
on the house from Breck!  Oh well, it was kinda small any way.  Lookin for 
somethin a little more elaborate.

  BTW, much to your surprise, DLG gets my vote.

Denny Maize
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Re: [RCSE] calculating height using small angle formula

2001-09-20 Thread John Erickson

Okay, now if I have a Rubber Ducky?  Please, no comments on the length of my
antennae.

JE
--
Erickson Architects
John R. Erickson, AIA


 From: Joe  Jan Wurts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:10:55 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] calculating height using small angle formula
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pete S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Here's what I came up with. Let's say my two split
 fingers are 1/4 apart 22 from my eyeball. I'll need
 an angular
 measurement for that so the circumference around my
 eye would be 2piR = 138.16. That divided by my 1/4
 finger
 spread = 552.64. This must be converted to degrees so
 552.64 / 360º = 1.535º.  This is the angular measure
 from my eye to my outstretched fingers.
 .
 I did these over and over and can't find fault. This,
 however, does not mean I'm sure I'm right. I can't
 find any text
 with the formula you give. Can you point me in the
 right direction?
 
 Simple.  The angle that should come from the above
 is:
 angle = 360º/552.64 = 0.6515 degrees
 
 That is, you had the angle calculation inverted.  (oops!  :-))
 
 Using the equation that you listed, the distance is:
 R = 100 / 0.6515 º x 57.3 = 3732 = 733 ft
 
 Alternately, you don't have to solve for the angle at all.
 
 The equation: d = a / 360º x 2piR
 
 Rewrite as: a= d * 360º /(2piR)
 
 Now, the angle is constant, so:
 a = d1*360º /(2piR1) = d2*360º /(2piR2)
 
 Solve for R2,
 
 R2 = (d2/d1) * R1
 
 d1 = antenna end diameter
 d2 = plane wingspan
 R1 = distance to antenna end
 
 This is the same formula that John gave.
 
 Joe
 
 
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Re: [RCSE] Newsletters

2001-09-20 Thread Bert Magin

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Re: [RCSE] Newsletters

2001-09-20 Thread Brett Jaffee

Proofreading is one word.

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[RCSE] Great sound

2001-09-20 Thread Chuck Anderson

This afternoon, I was working in the yard when I heard a most wonderful
sound.  A Cessna 172 flew over the house.  Then tonight, a flight of C130's
from my old unit in Nashville flew over my house on their regular Thursday
night low level training mission.  Good to hear them again.  The last week
has been too quiet.

Tomorrow I will go out to the model field and make some more wonderful
sounds with my winch.  I expect to hear the sound of winches a lot this
weekend at the Airfoiler's Sailplane contest.  Everybody in the midsouth is
invited to join us at Tullahoma this weekend for two days of thermal soaring.

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Re: [RCSE] The year's most significant development in R/C soaring?

2001-09-20 Thread Jim Bacus

At 06:31 PM 9/20/2001, James C Deck wrote:
 OK, forum members, it's time to provide your opinions on the following
question:
What was the most significant development in R/C soaring this year and why?

OK, I should really follow the thread, I read this about an hour ago and 
keep thinking about it.



Was it:
- The resurgence of cruciform tails.

That was sure an interesting trend this season, quite an effective one for 
me and the flying I do.  My preference has changed from not really caring 
about the tail much and ending up with a lot of molded Euro V tails to 
caring and ending up with US made cruciform models.  Was it the the first 
euro moldie to go cruciform, the Scar, the molded Psyko for being there all 
the time, or the Icon for taking the cruciform moldie to a new level of 
design, the new top of the food chain moldie.  I don't know, but they are 
back again, and I like it.  BTW, another favorite of mine is the Schpot 
Dorker LT, again, made in the USA.

Another trend this year was 6 servo wings, I almost bit as I had an Escape, 
but I sold it before I built it to help finance my Icon.


- The development of the sidearm launch.

This was a significant development, it completely changed the HLG contest 
scene.  For me this meant putting HLG on the back burner this season as I 
didn't have time to obtain and build a new quiver of DLG along side a 
quiver of F3J models.  But I got to meet Denny, and I bet he has even 
better things up his sleeve for next year.  8-)


- The F3J stake issue.

The most significant development here is so far the USA has handled this 
rule in the correct way in every contest I have attended.



-  Breaking the $1000 barrier for a competitive molded sailplane.

Nothing new about this to me, that threshold was passed one or two seasons 
ago...



-  The popularity of RES.
-  Dynamic Soaring.

Both were around last year, I am glad to see they are gaining 
popularity.  I need to DS again.  8-)


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club,  AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III
ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net

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[RCSE] Re: flight rules

2001-09-20 Thread SB

Here's official data regarding VFR flight, culled from FAA FDC Notams 6pm, 9/20/01:

PART 1 OF 4
!FDC 1/0269 ZZZ PART 2 OF 4  ..SPECIAL NOTICE..
NOTE:  FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS NOTAM, ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE
IS DEFINED AS THAT AIRSPACE WITHIN THE EXTREME LATERAL LIMIT OF
CLASS B AIRSPACE FROM SURFACE TO INFINITY (I.E. SUCH OPERATIONS ARE
NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN, BELOW, OR ABOVE CLASS B AIRSPACE):
PART I.  EXCEPT FOR THE OPERATIONS LISTED BELOW, PART 91 VFR
OPERATIONS ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S.,
FOR U.S. REGISTERED AIRCRAFT, PROVIDED THAT THOSE OPERATIONS ARE
CONDUCTED OUTSIDE ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE.
A. THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED:
   1. CIVIL AIRCRAFT VFR FLIGHT TRAINING OPERATIONS
   2. CIVIL AIRCRAFT BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS
   3. SIGHT SEEING FLIGHT OPERATIONS (IN ROTORCRAFT AND AIRPLANES)
  CONDUCTED FOR COMPENSATION OR HIRE (UNDER PART 91, PURSUANT
  TO THE EXCEPTION IN 119.1(e)(2))
   4. TRAFFIC WATCH FLIGHT OPERATIONS
   5. AIRSHIP/BLIMP OPERATIONS
   6. NEWS REPORTING OPERATIONS

PART 2 OF 4
!FDC 1/0269 ZZZ PART 4 OF 4  ..SPECIAL NOTICE..
1. FOREIGN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT DEPARTING THE U.S. WITH NO INTER-
   MEDIATE STOPS WITHIN THE U.S.
2. FOREIGN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT OVERFLYING THE U.S. WITH A MAXIMUM
   CERTIFICATED TAKEOFF GROSS WEIGHT LESS THAN 95,000 POUNDS.
3. VFR-ON-TOP OPERATIONS OUTSIDE ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE.
PART III.  AUTHORIZATIONS.
1. ALL PART 91 IFR/VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN ALASKAN
   AIRSPACE.
2. ALL PART 91 IFR/VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN HAWAIIAN
   AIRSPACE OUTSIDE ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE.
3. WITHIN ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE, ALL MILITARY,MEDIVAC,
   RESCUE/RECOVERY,FIRE FIGHTING, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND EMERGENCY
   EVACUATION AIRCRAFT CAN CONDUCT IFR OR VFR OPERATIONS USING AN
   ATC-ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON CODE.
4. FOR MILITARY AIRCRAFT OPERATING VFR UNDER PART 91 OUTSIDE
   ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE, AN ATC-ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON
   CODE IS NOT REQUIRED.
5. COMMERCIAL SPACE OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED AND MUST BE APPROVED
   IN ACCORDANCE WITH ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES.

PART IV. IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR AUTHORIZATION STATUS CONTACT
   LOCAL FAA FLIGHT SERVICE STATION AT 1-800-WXBRIEF.

PART 4 OF 4
!FDC 1/0269 ZZZ PART 3 OF 4  ..SPECIAL NOTICE..
B. EXAMPLES OF AUTHORIZED OPERATIONS, OUTSIDE ENHANCED CLASS B
   AIRSPACE INCLUDE:
   1. AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE REPOSITIONING.
   2. AIRSHOWS.
   3. BALLOON FLIGHTS-BOTH COMMERCIAL AND NONCOMMERCIAL.
   4. CIVIL AIR PATROL.
   5. GLIDERS.
   6. MANUFACTURER PRODUCTION FLIGHT TESTS.
   7. MAPPING/PHOTOGRAPHY MISSIONS.
   8. PIPELINE/POWERLINE INSPECTIONS.
   9. SEAPLANES.
  10. SKYDIVING.
  11. ULTRALIGHTS.
  12. WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS.

You'll need a VFR chart to determine if you are within the lateral limits of Class B 
airspace (terminal airspace surrounding large airports). I've never seen any reference 
to R/C aircraft in any Part 91 regulations, but if this is a concern, check with the 
local FAA FSDO, phone number available at 1.800.WXBRIEF.

Hope this helps. Good lift to you.

Steve Britton


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Re: [RCSE] Newsletters

2001-09-20 Thread Brett Jaffee

Oops.  My apologies to Bert.  I missed the first post and thought that Bert was 
flaming someone else's spelling.

Brett

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Re: [RCSE] The year's most significant development in R/C soaring?

2001-09-20 Thread Darwin N Barrie



rsiegel wrote:



 Not only that, how about the fast service at Tony's Tacos at this year's
 IHLGF -- huh!?! (If they ever invent an edible FISH taco, THAT will be a
 development.  Ah, the fish taco diet!)


Que? El Servico, Lacking O. No speakada English, muy grande problemo. Agreedo!!

Darwin N. Barrie
Scottsdale AZ


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[RCSE] Tips on LE's and tips.

2001-09-20 Thread Harley Michaelis

Hi guys. . .I have just finished up my 21st scratch-built GENIE. This is an
original design, vacuum-bagged, thermal competition ship on which the
prototype was built 8-9 years ago. See pics of a couple at
http://www.proptwisters.org/genie/genie.html.

While bagging the wing, I tried a couple of ideas not heard about before
that those who still build may like to know about.

As I have often done, I trimmed the cores for a LE of 1/4 harder balsa to
shape to core contours. I then pre-glassed them using the 1 x .003
fiberglas tape I got from CST. I attached the tape with 3M77, brushed on
bagging resin, smoothed it uniformly and let it cure.

The next step is what I did differently. I wanted to protect the fine finish
on the LE from being messed up during bagging to cut down on the touch up
work. To this end, I found some 1/2 wide color-coded electrical tape
(Action brand from National Tape Corp., New Orleans, item #7076A). I placed
a length of this tape, sticky side down, on a long piece of plate glass,
waxed the other side, then carefully centered it on LE. I positioned the
waxed/painted carriers to extend about half way over the 1/4 LE. As hoped
for, the excess epoxy and layup extended partly over the LE, but did not
adhere to the waxed tape. After cutting off the unwanted overlap, I peeled
the 1/2 tape off and to my great joy, had a  smooth LE, free of pits,
bubbles and unwanted epoxy, one like never before. With careful masking of
adjacent areas, I feathered the layup to the pre-glassed LE, preparatory to
masking to apply a painted finish to the LE. It looks nice!

The other different thing done was this; I replaced a section of each
extreme tip of the cores with sort of pie-shaped pieces of balsa. I ran the
grain span-wise to get rigidity not provided by foam. These balsa pieces
were shaped to match the removed pieces of core and to give a tip-like
shape, birds-eye view. However, they ended with abrupt vertical edges, thus
imparting no compound curves the carriers could not conform to. The carriers
and layup were sized to end at the vertical edges. After bagging, there was
a perfectly-painted layup to the vertical edge. After sanding the edges
smooth, still in the vertical, a V groove was filed into the balsa edges.
A finished, rounded edge was then created by pressing some of Taylor
Collin's (Soaring Stuff) 2 part epoxy putty into the groove and working it
to perfectly fill to the upper and lower edges of the painted skins. A strip
of vinyl masking tape was placed on both painted surfaces at the extreme
edges to keep the putty off the paint. This 2-part putty comes in a
wiener-sized roll from which you slice off a piece to knead with thumb and
finger to mix. The brown mix slowly hardens, giving ample time to shape with
fingers, trim with Exacto or razor blade and ultimately fine-sand with
wet/dry paper. The bagged, painted area was then masked to spray paint the
putty to look integral. In appearance, the tips rival those of a molded
wing.

Harley Michaelis, LSF023, 26 S. Roosevelt, Walla Walla, WA 99362, ph. ((509)
529-2562. RDS website: http://www.proptwisters.org/rds2/

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