Re: t-and-f: PA freshman sets national 1600 record

[Mike Prizy]

In Illinois, we used to have two or three hours of the boys meet, two or three hours 
of the girls
meet, and one hour of cross country taped for TV. Then, the state went from six 
football classes to
eight football classes with these games all shown live, plus a one-hour playoff 
pairing show.
Unfortunately, there suddenly was no money available for track and XC to be on TV. My 
argument fell
to deaf ears that the football TV package benefited 16 schools while a single state 
track meet
represented about 150 schools and communities. That meant 16 schools got about 40 
hours of live
coverage while 150 schools were told they were not worthy to get a couple of hours of 
a taped show.

William Bahnfleth wrote:

> For those with access to the Pennsylvania Cable Network, the entire
> Saturday state meet was broadcast live (with nicely condensed taped field
> events) and has been re-running periodically since then.  Lots of good
> competition throughout.  Aside from the announcers occasionally referring
> to the 1600 and 3200 as the mile and two-mile, I thought it was great
> coverage and commentary.  Too bad most other meets can't get a four hour
> block of  commercial-free time.
>
> At 10:37 AM 5/27/2003 -0400, Post, Marty wrote:
> >How does 4:14.26 auto-timed at 1600m compare to 4:15.5 hand-time ?[the US
> >frosh mile record]
> >
> >
> >http://www.dyestat.com/3state/PA/3out/statemeet/miller.htm
>
> _
>
> William P. Bahnfleth, Ph.D., P.E.
> Associate Professor
> Director, Indoor Environment Center
>
> Department of Architectural Engineering
> The Pennsylvania State University
> 104 Engineering Unit A
> University Park, PA 16802 USA
>
> voice: 814.863.2076 / fax: 814.863.4789
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t-and-f: [Fwd: KHALID KHANNOUCHI COMES HOME, The world's fastest marathoner to run Chicagoagain in 2003]

[Mike Prizy]

 Original Message 
Subject: KHALID KHANNOUCHI COMES HOME, The world's fastest marathoner to run 
Chicagoagain in 2003
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:00:23 -0500
From: marathon.office





PRESS RELEASE
from The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon

 

   Khalid Khannouchi comes Home
The world's fastest marathoner to run Chicago again in 2003

Chicago (May 27, 2003) To say that Khalid Khannouchi has dominated the
streets of Chicago is an understatement.  With four first-place feats,
including a record setting performance, Khannouchi's dominance is one of
the great sports stories in Chicago.

Khalid Khannouchi, 31, the fastest marathon runner in history, will return
to his home away from home to showcase his dominance in marathoning on the
streets of Chicago.  Khannouchi, who is in town this week meeting with
Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski, has committed to run his sixth
LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon.

"Khalid Khannouchi is undoubtedly the greatest marathon runner of all
time," remarked Pinkowski.  "His epic performances and dramatic finishes in
Chicago are some of, if not the best, moments in the history of
marathoning."

Khannouchi finished first in dramatic fashion last year.  From the minute
the race began, Khannouchi went head to head with some of the greatest
distance runners of all time, including Paul Tergat, defending champion Ben
Kimondiu, and two-time London Marathon champion Abdelkhader El Mouaziz.

But it was Toshinari Takaoka who would provide Khannouchi with his biggest
challenge as the Japanese 10,000m champion broke out from the pack at mile
19 to take a 21 second lead at mile 23. But Khannouchi launched a
tremendous kick at mile 24 as he was set to accelerate past Takaoka.

And it seemed as though history was repeating itself.  The scene to come
was all too familiar.

Khannouchi and Takaoka were running side by side, shoulder to shoulder when
Khannouchi broke away from Takaoka like a roadrunner in the middle of the
McCormick Place Tunnel.  He then gracefully fell to the ground in a pool of
emotions as he crossed the finish line in 2:05:56.  Tears slowly rolled
down his eyes and his voice trembled as he realized what he had just
accomplished?four first place finishes in Chicago and the only marathoner
to have three sub 2:06 performances.

"Khalid's standard of success and his repeated dominance are beyond
impressive," added Pinkowski.  "I anticipate another strong performance
from him as he challenges his own world record in the 2003 LaSalle Bank
Chicago Marathon."

It was three years earlier in 1999 that Khalid broke away from Moses Tanui
in that same tunnel, making up a 40-second deficit to set the then world
record.  It is these storybook performances that have made Khalid
Khannouchi's name synonymous with The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, which
has arguably become one of the best marathons in the world.  The Chicago
race has seen 37,500 registrants two years in a row and a field of some of
the greatest male and female marathoners in the world including once World
Record performances by Paula Radcliffe and Catherine Ndereba.

"Over the past six years, Chicago has been a super place for many athletes
who search for fast times," stated Khannouchi when asked about his thoughts
on returning to Chicago.  Khannouchi feels at home in Chicago and thrives
on the overwhelming support received from the hundreds of thousands who
line the course and cheer him on.  "I feel like I am running in my own
backyard every time I race in Chicago, especially with the strong support I
receive from the people of Chicago.  I'm very glad to be back once more and
to have the pleasure to hear my name once again all around the fast course
of the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon."

With Khannouchi leading the field of elite athletes thus far, the 2003
Chicago race is shaping up to have another impressive field.  Top athletes
seem to always perform extremely well in Chicago because of the flat, fast
course and the depth of the elite field that creates unparalleled
competition.  Chicago has built a solid reputation and has become the top
marathon in the U.S.

Khannouchi currently holds the World Record and the American Record.  His
unmatched marathon success started with his 1997 debut victory in Chicago
in 2:07:10?the fastest marathon debut ever. In 1998 Khannouchi placed
second in Chicago but came back to set a then World Record of 2:05:42 at
The 1999 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. After becoming an American citizen
in May of 2000, Khannouchi set a then American marathon record of 2:07:01
with his third Chicago victory in the fall of 2000.

Khannouchi, who withdrew from the London Marathon this year, overcame one
of the strongest fields ever assembled to lower his own World Record in a
victory at the 2002 London Marathon with a time of 2:05:38. The dramatic
race included Khannouchi once again accelerating past two of the greatest
distance runners ever ? Paul Tergat and Haile Geb

Re: t-and-f: Chepchumba banned after positive test

[Mike Prizy]

Is your next writing assignment for TFN going to be an update to "Train Hard, Win 
Easy?"

malmo wrote:

> Actually, there are few sub 26:45s and few sub 12:50s ever.
>
> Last year, as you'll remember, produced the greatest mass finish ever in
> a 10k. Many smiling pastoral people who are afraid of needles in that
> race too.
>
> malmo
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: t-and-f: Chepchumba banned after positive test
>
> Paul relayed:
>
> >NAIROBI (Reuters) -- Kenya's former national cross-country champion
> >Pamela Chepchumba was suspended from international competition by
> >Athletics Kenya on Wednesday after a positive test for the banned
> >blood-boosting drug EPO.
>
> Well, we all know this must be false, having been educated in the past
> that
> (a) Kenyans can't afford expensive performance enhancers like EPO, and
> (b) Kenyan athletes are loathe to take aspirin for a minor strain, much
> less take a performance enhancing drug.
>
> No story here folks.  This drug test was obviously ignorant of Kenyan
> culture and tradition.
>
> What happened to all the sub 26:45 10K's and sub 12:50 5K's in recent
> years, btw?
>
> Phil

t-and-f: Top Ill. Qualifiers;

[Mike Prizy]

Illinois High School Association
110th running of the Boys' State Track and Field Championships.
Charleston, Ill.
Eastern Ill. University

Class AA

LJ

1  Q-Leslie Majors (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood)   24' 1 3/4"
2  Q-Durrell Williams (Jr.), Aurora (West)23' 7"

TJ

1  Q-Steve Daniel (Sr.), Decatur (MacArthur)  49' 4"
2  Q-Britt Taylor (Sr.), Darien (Hinsdale South)  48' 6 1/4"
3  Q-Stephen Harden (Jr.), East St. Louis (Sr.)   47' 10"

400m (juniors dominating)

1  Q-Justin Harrison (Jr.), Wheaton (W. Warrenville South):47.99

1  Q-Matt Leffler (Sr.), Vernon Hills :48.48
2  Q-Lee McGinnis (Jr.), Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South)  :48.62

1  Q-Jeremy Johnson (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood)  :48.84

1  Q-Kyle Rose (Jr.), Kankakee (Sr.)  :48.91
2  Q-Stephen Taylor (Sr.), South Holland (Thornwood)  :48.97


300H

1  Q-Matt Harden (Jr.), O'Fallon  :38.61
2  Q-Keith Hopkins (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood)   :39.57


1600 (12 to final from three heats, 4:09, 4:17 to 4:20)

1  Q-Stephen Pifer (Sr.), Edwardsville (H.S.) 4:09.08

1  Q-Jeremy Williams (Sr.), Lockport (Twp.)   4:17.02


200

1  Q-Jeremy Johnson (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood)  :22.32

1  Q-Stephen Taylor (Sr.), South Holland (Thornwood)  :22.22

1  Q-Devon Brooks (Sr.), Edwardsville (H.S.)  :22.02
2  Q-Tyreese Andrews (Sr.), Chicago Heights (Bloom Twp.)  :22.07

1  Q-Martece Winston (Sr.), Crete (C.-Monee)  :22.06
2  Q-Waylond Ryan (Jr.), Rock Island (H.S.)   :22.17


4x800

1  Q-Charleston7:44.23
   Clint Coffey (Jr.), Nathan Homann (Jr.),
   Erik Werden (Sr.), Derek Fasnacht (Sr.)

4x100

1  Q-South Holland (Thornwood) :42.09
   Leslie Majors (Jr.), Stephen Taylor (Sr.),
   Floyd Davis (Jr.), Jeremy Johnson (Jr.)

t-and-f: Pifer 9:07; other Ill.

[Mike Prizy]

Illinois High School Association
110th running of the Boys' State Track and Field Championships.
Charleston, Ill.
Eastern Ill. University

64 degrees F
64 percent humidity
Cloudy and very windy (gusting to 30 mph)

Thornwood H.S. (South Holland, Ill.) on way to third state title in a row. Always 
solid in the
jumps, sprint relays, 200 and 400. Alums include Kathleen Raske, head coach at Central 
Michigan;
Reggie Torrian, low 13s for 110H, but retired early.)

Sad news for the week. Popular coach Pete Reiff, 52, Hoffman Estates H.S., dies of 
heart attach on
Monday. He was an All-State distance runner from York H.S. (Elmhurst, Ill.) in the 
late 60s and ran
at Mich. St.

Class AA (big schools)

Finals

3200

1  Stephen Pifer (Sr.), Edwardsville (H.S.)   9:06.93
2  Micky Cobrin (Sr.), Lincolnshire (Stevenson)   9:21.40

LJ

1  Leslie Majors (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood) 24' 1 3/4"
2  Durrell Williams (Jr.), Aurora (West)  23' 7"

PV

1  John Adamczyk (Jr.), Palatine (Fremd)  15' 9"
2  Dave Viken (Sr.), Rolling Meadows  15' 6"

HJ

1  Mike Petrone (Sr.), Carbondale 6' 10"
2  Obe Eruteya (Sr.), Niles (Notre Dame)  6' 8"

SP

1  Scott Block (Sr.), Roselle (Lake Park) 60' 10 1/4"
2  Sean Delahunt (Sr.), Pekin 60' 9"

TJ

1  Steve Daniel (Sr.), Decatur (MacArthur)49' 4"
2  Britt Taylor (Sr.), Darien (Hinsdale South)48' 6 1/4"

DT

1  Adam Schroeder (Sr.), Rockford (Boylan)182' 6"
2  Paul Lindsey (Sr.), Oak Lawn (Richards)178' 4"

4x800 (The locals went nuts. David beats Goliath. Charleston is the local small, 
college-town
school. York has a national reputation (Don Sage, Maria Cicero) and 22 state cross 
country team
titles.)

1  Charleston  7:51.21
   Clint Coffey (Jr.), Nathan Homann (Jr.),
   Erik Werden (Sr.), Derek Fasnacht (Sr.)
2  Elmhurst (York) 7:51.60
   Roger Billhardt (So.), Adam Manta (Sr.),
   Tom Rosinski (Sr.), Mike Corry (Sr.)


4x100

1  South Holland (Thornwood)   :42.24
   Leslie Majors (Jr.), Stephen Taylor (Sr.),
   Floyd Davis (Jr.), Jeremy Johnson (Jr.)
2  East St. Louis (Sr.):42.56
   Jamison Perry (Jr.), Andre Brewster (Jr.),
   Nolan Gardner (Sr.), Timothy Allen (So.)

t-and-f: 1.) Stephen Pifer, 4:14.29

[Mike Prizy]

Illinois H.S. Assoc.
Boys' State Finals

67 degrees F
59 percent humidity
Partly Cloudy
Widy - gusting to 30 mph

1  Stephen Pifer (Sr.), Edwardsville (H.S.)   4:14.29
2  Hunter Sheldon (Sr.), Vernon Hills 4:17.56
3  William McCann (Jr.), Decatur (MacArthur)  4:18.35

t-and-f: Notable Illinois Underclassmen

[Mike Prizy]

Notable Illinois Underclassmen

Illinois High School Association
Boys' State Track Meet
Charleston, Ill.
Eastern Illinois University
Charleston, Ill.
Finals, Saturday, May 31, 2003
www.ihsa.org

67 degrees F
partly cloudy
swirling wind, gusting to 30 mph


Class A (smaller schools of two-class system)

PLACE/ATHLETE/GRADE/SCHOOL TOWN and-or(SCHOOL NAME)/PERFORMANCE

PV

1  Josh Cullers (Jr.), Harrisburg 15' 0"


HJ

1  Jon Reagan (Jr.), Freeburg 6' 10"


TJ

1  Stephen Benjamin (So.), Chicago (Leo)  46' 6 1/4"


100

2  DeAndre Truss (Fr.), Sparta:10.88


1600

2  Dane Zeiler (So.), Metropolis (Massac County)  4:21.80
6  Michael Grieve (Fr.), Manlius (Bureau Valley)  4:26.63


200

7  DeAndre Truss (Fr.), Sparta:22.53




Class AA (bigger schools)

LJ

1  Leslie Majors (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood) 24' 1 3/4"
2  Durrell Williams (Jr.), Aurora (West)  23' 7"


PV

1  John Adamczyk (Jr.), Palatine (Fremd)  15' 9"


HJ

9  Jared Nuxoll (Fr.), Effingham (H.S.)   6' 4"


TJ

3  Stephen Harden (Jr.), East St. Louis (Sr.) 47' 10"



110H

1  Keith Hopkins (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood) :14.30
2  Matt Harden (Jr.), O'Fallon:14.34


200

1  Jeremy Johnson (Jr.), South Holland (Thornwood):21.68

Re: t-and-f: Pre- adidas outdoor championship preview interview with Chris Solinsky

[Mike Prizy]

Illinois runs state much like California. Pres on Friday in everything except the 
3200, Saturday is
all finals (3200/800/1600) in the early afternoon. Weather, competition, and about a 
three-hour time
span have held the dreamers at bay. We had one almost distance triple in foreign 
exchange student,
Marius Bakken, who attended Don Sage's York H.S. in Elmhurst, Ill.

I think Sage would have had a great shot at the triple, but maybe at the expense of 
his 8:42 and
4:07. Also, he had other great 800 guys on his team his senior year.

Also, note some of the other names in these finals.


1996 Illinois High School Association State Finals:

800-meter run
 1  Kyle Leonard (Sr.), New Lenox (Lincoln-Way)1:52.63
 2  Marius Bakken (Sr.), Elmhurst (York)   1:53.78
 3  Dan Billish (Sr.), Chicago (Brother Rice)  1:54.57

1600-meter run
 1  Marius Bakken (Sr.), Elmhurst (York)   4:12.40
 2  Edward Riegert (Sr.), Downers Grove (North)4:14.18
 3  Dave Gonzalez (Sr.), Bolingbrook   4:14.54

3200-meter run
 1  Marius Bakken (Sr.), Elmhurst (York)   9:07.34
 2  Matt Macievic (Sr.), Chicago (DeLaSalle)   9:15.88
 3  David Zabel (Jr.), Carol Stream (Glenbard North)   9:16.68
 4  Mark Pilja (So.), Naperville (North)   9:16.73
 5  Ted Higgins (Jr.), Naperville (North)  9:21.73
 6  Mark Reed (Sr.), Lockport (Twp.)   9:22.22
 7  Justin Young (Jr.), Peoria (Richwoods) 9:24.65
 8  Jorge Torres (Fr.), Wheeling   9:27.06



2000 Illinois High School Association State Finals:

800-meter run
 1  Tim Hobbs (Jr.), Elmhurst (York)   1:52.18
 2  Mike Lewis (Sr.), Cahokia  1:52.21
 3  Justin Amason (Sr.), Centralia 1:52.52
 4  Colin Quinn (Sr.), Chicago (Marist)1:53.66
 5  Gabriel Cruz (Jr.), Maywood (Proviso East) 1:53.94
 6  Scott Mahon (Jr.), Effingham (H.S.)1:54.08
 7  Chris Ashton (Jr.), Carbondale 1:54.66
 8  Felix Anderson (Jr.), Harvey (Thornton)1:54.67
 9  Ben Shumaker (Sr.), Moline 1:54.70

1600-meter run
 1  Donald Sage (Sr.), Elmhurst (York) 4:07.58
 2  Justin Amason (Sr.), Centralia 4:11.78
 3  Peter Cioni (Sr.), Elmhurst (York) 4:15.05
 4  Justin Motkowicz (Sr.), Crete (C.-Monee)   4:16.32
 5  William Artope (Jr.), Evanston (Twp.)  4:16.74
 6  Tim Keller (Sr.), West Chicago (H.S.)  4:16.94
 7  Ian Cronin (Jr.), Lincolnshire (Stevenson) 4:16.96
 8  Ed Umansky (Sr.), Park Ridge (Maine East)  4:17.00
 9  Carlos Mendoza (So.), Bensenville (Fenton) 4:17.18

3200-meter run
 1  Donald Sage (Sr.), Elmhurst (York) 8:42.89
 2  Tim Keller (Sr.), West Chicago (H.S.)  8:56.24
 3  Dan Glaz (Jr.), Palos Hills (Stagg)9:07.20
 4  Ryan Teising (Sr.), Naperville (Central)   9:08.68
 5  Tony Rakaric (Jr.), Palatine (H.S.)9:09.07
 6  Dan Trainor (Sr.), Freeport (H.S.) 9:13.60
 7  Adam Palumbo (Sr.), Elmhurst (York)9:13.77
 8  Micah VanDenend (So.), Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South) 9:15.34
 9  Dan Haut (Jr.), Lockport (Twp.)9:26.99

Gerald Woodward wrote:

> Ricky,
>
> It appears that some states give their distance runners a break by running
> the 3200 finals on Friday night and the 1600 finals on Saturday.  In
> California, they run qualifying heats in every event except the 3200 on
> Friday night, and ALL the running finals on Saturday within a two and a half
> hour window, girls and boys.
>
> If Solinsky runs the 800, 1600 and 3200, he would never be able to get a
> triple win in California as the overall talent is too great, i.e. Duane
> Solomon (Cabrillo) ran 1:51.1 in the qualifying Friday, and 1:49.79 (#3 US)
> on Saturday to win the championship; Phillip Reid (Rio Mesa) ran 4:11.? in
> qualifying on Friday and 4:08.9 (#9 US) to win on Saturday; Philip Reid also
> ran the 3200 (9:10.91) an hour after winning the 1600; Tim Nelson ran
> 8:53.59 (#7 US) to win the 3200 (he did run the 1600 as did not the first
> seven finishers in the 3200)!  The slowest qualifiers in the 800 ran 1:54.8;
> the slowest qualifiers in the 1600 ran 4:15.41.  As you can see, these are
> pretty swift high school times just to qualify.
>
> Solinsky may have had a shot at the 1600 and 3200 double, but not the
> trifecta here!
>
> Gerald "Woody" Woodward

t-and-f: Chapa protesting???

[Mike Prizy]

What's the deal with this pix? Was Rudy protesting something?


http://libweb.uoregon.edu/exhibits/track_and_field/tf05.html

Re: t-and-f: Re: Oregon track website

[Mike Prizy]

Aside from the Heisman Trophy and the potential that some of its winners may or may 
not be felons,
does anyone know why Rudy Chapa - not a Heisman winner, and to the best of my 
knowledge, not a
felon, but rather a fine upstanding citizen - is apparently wearing his singlet 
reversed in this
pix? (See link below for photo.)

Richard McCann wrote:

> This is a pretty neat website with various pix of historic Oregon runners:
>
> http://libweb.uoregon.edu/exhibits/track_and_field/tandf.html
>
> Richard McCann
>
> At 10:04 AM 6/19/2003 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote..
> >- - Original Message -
> >From: "Mike Prizy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Track List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:34 AM
> >Subject: t-and-f: Chapa protesting???
> >
> >
> > > What's the deal with this pix? Was Rudy protesting something?
> > >
> > >
> > > http://libweb.uoregon.edu/exhibits/track_and_field/tf05.html

t-and-f: R.I.P. Playboy's "Men" & Princeton track alum

[Mike Prizy]

... Mr. Baber was a 1958 graduate of Princeton University, where he ran track on an 
athletic
scholarship and participated in a Marine Corps leadership program





During the fall of 1977, my freshman year at Eastern Illinois University, I had Mr. 
Asa Baber for
Creative Writing. I was on the cross country team and he mentioned that he had run 
track. I recall
him saying that he ran sub 50 for the 440y on a cinder track in the very early 1950s, 
and I believe
he said that was when he was in high school on the South Side of Chicago.

At Eastern Illinois University that fall back in 1977, we went on to win the NCAA D2 
National XC
Championship. I think those after-class conversations about running were responsible 
for this very
critical grader, tough Chicago South Sider, former Marine, and Princeton grad, to 
award me the two
points I needed to bump my grade up a letter.

Problem now is, I don't have a good reason to tell my wife why I'm "reading" a Playboy.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/obituaries/chi-0306200081jun20,1,7869930.story?coll=chi-newsobituaries-hed

By Brett McNeil
Tribune staff reporter
Published June 20, 2003

They really did read it for the writing--his writing, anyway, the Men column, which 
for more than 20
years kept the erogenous, emotional and intellectual pulse of American masculinity for 
Playboy.

At turns defiantly anti-feminist and tenderly paternal, Asa Baber, 66, gave voice to 
the unspoken
grievances of millions of men who often feel misunderstood by almost every woman in
America--including the centerfolds.

A longtime Gold Coast resident, Mr. Baber--known to his friends as Ace--died of Lou 
Gehrig's disease
Monday, June 16, in Northwestern Memorial Hospital.

Born and raised on Chicago's South Side, Mr. Baber was a 1958 graduate of Princeton 
University,
where he ran track on an athletic scholarship and participated in a Marine Corps 
leadership program.

Re: t-and-f: Re: Oregon track website

[Mike Prizy]

If that's your answer, I'm sticking with it, too.

Runner Triathlete News / Inside Texas Running wrote:

> I'm tellin' ya, he was runnin' jayvee.  ;)
>
> Lance Phegley
> Editor
> Inside Texas Running
> www.InsideTexasRunning.com
>
> ---Original Message---
> From: Mike Prizy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 06/20/03 07:27 PM
> To: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: Oregon track website
>
> >
> > Aside from the Heisman Trophy and the potential that some of its winners
> may or may not be felons,
> does anyone know why Rudy Chapa - not a Heisman winner, and to the best of
> my knowledge, not a
> felon, but rather a fine upstanding citizen - is apparently wearing his
> singlet reversed in this
> pix? (See link below for photo.)
>
> Richard McCann wrote:
>
> > This is a pretty neat website with various pix of historic Oregon
> runners:
> >
> > http://libweb.uoregon.edu/exhibits/track_and_field/tandf.html
> >
> > Richard McCann
> >
> > At 10:04 AM 6/19/2003 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote..
> > >- - Original Message -
> > >From: "Mike Prizy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Track List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:34 AM
> > >Subject: t-and-f: Chapa protesting???
> > >
> > >
> > > > What's the deal with this pix? Was Rudy protesting something?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://libweb.uoregon.edu/exhibits/track_and_field/tf05.html
>
> >

Re: t-and-f: Timing yourself in an indoor 5,000M?

[Mike Prizy]

I might have the wrong race, but I believe promotional shots for the Chicago Marathon 
some years ago
were staged because the ad agency refused to use the real race start photos because 
most of the
runners at the start were looking and grabbing their wrists. The word went out that if 
you wanted to
be in the ad, show up without your watch.

Jim Gerweck wrote:

> I love it when some kid who's so inculcated by the nuances of road racing
> reaches to hit his watch at the end of a race, and gets beat by another who
> ran through the finish and counted on the timers to do their job.
> --
> Jim Gerweck
> Running Times

t-and-f: test

[Mike Prizy]

test

t-and-f: [Fwd: Press Release: El Mouaziz to Challenge Khannouchi]

[Mike Prizy]

 Original Message 
Subject: Press Release: Abdelkhader El Mouaziz to Challenge Khannouchi
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:42:55 -0500
From: (LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon)

Press Release

  Abdelkhader El Mouaziz to Challenge Khannouchi
 Win gives El Mouaziz the grand slam?victories in Chicago, London, and New
   York

Chicago (July 8, 2003)?The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon's elite athlete
field grows deeper as two-time London Marathon winner Abdelkhader El
Mouaziz (AB-DEL-CATER / EL-MO-ZEEZ) commits to run the 2003 race.  El
Mouaziz, returning to Chicago for a second time, hopes to challenge
world-record holder Khalid Khannouchi for first place in the fall race.  El
Mouaziz set a personal best in Chicago in 2002 with a time of 2:06:46.

A win in Chicago would make El Mouaziz, 34, of Morocco one of a select few
to have first place finishes in the top marathons including Chicago,
London, and New York.  He is determined to achieve what he calls the grand
slam of marathoning.

"I'm excited to return to Chicago and my goal is to win the race because
this is the only top-marathon that I have yet to win," stated Mouaziz.
"After winning London twice and New York once, I need to win Chicago in
order to complete the grand slam of victories in marathoning.  I hope that
2003 will be the year that I can add Chicago to my list of marathon wins."

El Mouaziz is a two-time Olympian from Morocco and one of the most
consistent marathon performers over the past seven years. In 2002, he ran
his then personal best of 2:06:52 with a fourth place finish in London
while staying with Khalid Khannouchi, Paul Tergat and Haile Gebresalassie
throughout the race. El Mouaziz won the London Marathon twice (1999, 2001)
and also has two second-place finishes in London (2000 and 1998).

At the 2002 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, El Mouaziz set a personal record
of 2:06:46 for fifth place, the fastest time ever for anyone finishing in
that position. In 2000, he won the New York City Marathon after a gutsy
surge in the first half of New York's difficult course.  He has performed
well in international competition as well, finishing sixth at the 2001
World Marathon Championships (2:14:41) and seventh at the 2000 Sydney
Olympics Marathon (2:13:49). He is also a three-time winner of the
Marrakesh Marathon (1996,1997 and 1999).

"El Mouaziz is determined to perform strong in Chicago this year," stated
Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski.  "He is a great addition to our
field and with his eye on winning this year, he certainly adds a
significant degree of competition to the men's field and to Khannouchi.  It
will certainly be a competitive race all the way to the finish line."

World record holder Khannouchi announced that he would run Chicago for a
sixth time earlier this year.  With Khannouchi, former Olympian Rod
DeHaven, who will both compete in the U.S. Olympic trials in February, and
El Mouaziz leading the men's field, the LaSalle Bank Chicago will once
again have the best athletes in the sport competing against each other.

Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever,
$550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest
first place payout in the sport.  The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon
begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's
Grant Park and is expected to draw up to the increased registration cap of
40,000 participants.  CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of
the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 7:30
a.m. to 11 a.m. race day.

   # # #

t-and-f: Pix from USATF Nationals

[Mike Prizy]

http://www.usolympicteam.com/goldmedal/070103_p_pgtrack.html

Re: t-and-f: Swoosh! Nike Agrees to Buy Converse for $305 Million

[Mike Prizy]

In today's Chicago Tribune vie the Baltimore Sun, is a column about Kobe Bryant. In 
part, the
Baltimore Sun's Mike Preston says the reason kids aren't buying Kobe's shoes is 
because Converse is
now the hip brand to today's kids.



Marketing misfits miss point

BY MIKE PRESTON. Mike Preston is a sports columnist
for the Baltimore Sun, a Tribune newspaper
Published July 10, 2003

(long link - might have to be pasted together)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/printedition/chi-0307100260jul10,1,2378830.story?coll=chi-printsports-hed





Matthew Starr wrote:

>
>
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>
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>  Thursday, July 10, 2003
>
>  Swoosh! Nike Agrees to Buy Converse for $305 Million
>
> Nike, known for its shoes and its swoosh, has Michael
> Jordan and Tiger Woods on its corporate team. Now it
> is lining up yet another sports legend: for $305
> million, Nike is buying Converse, a century-old
> footwear company and maker of the celebrated Chuck
> Taylor All Star shoe. The deal announced yesterday,
> for cash and debt, brings together one of the oldest
> names in athletic footwear with perhaps the world's
> best-known sports shoe brand.
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Re: t-and-f: Salaries and Sports being cut

[Mike Prizy]

In your scenario - which is a valid one regarding the outrageous salaries for college 
football and
men's basketball coaches - when the decision comes down to cutting either men's track 
or women's
track, which team in almost all cases ends up on the chopping board? The men's team 
because of
Gender Equity quotas.

Title IX is a good thing. Football and men's basketball are bad things, and Gender 
Equity has given
universities and the NCAA a cowardly method of turning their backs on one issue to 
pretend they are
doing something righteous.

P.S. I think this is rehash from last year?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The premise is that "non-revenue" sports are cut because of increases in
> "revenue" sports spending.  Case in point-- St. John's University.
> According to Guidestar -  Mike Jarvis was paid 705,000 in 1998 and
> 1,171,255 in 2001.I was rather shocked.  That is a significant budget
> increase in an athletic department.  Something would have to be cut in
> order to continue at that pace and they made the decision to cut Men's
> Track.
>
> It  goes to prove the point that it is not fair just to point the finger at
> Title IX for  a reduction in men's sports.
>
> Catherine Sellers

Re: t-and-f: Salaries and Sports being cut

[Mike Prizy]

Millions? Where is it going?

What did St. John's track AND cross country programs cost? Maybe $250,000? Is that 
about a sixth of
Jarvis' compensation package? All to one college coach?

Bowling Green showed that with mostly in-state athletes, the track program actually 
made money -
profit generating, NOT revenue generating  at a loss like almost all football and most 
men's
basketball programs operate.

If "NCAA Division I sports are BIG Business!" then universities - public and private - 
should
forfeit their tax exempt status and pay the local communities their fair share of 
property taxes
because they are not providing opportunities for all.

It is only right, that if college football and men's basketball programs are making so 
much money,
yet they can't fund less expensive programs that provide opportunities for a 
wide-range of
student-athletes, then universities should be paying taxes on these revenue-generating
non-educational "business."

In the business world, it is ROI. But aren't universities supposed to be about 
education - oops!
Don't respond to this question, it was flippant and rhetorical - and about 
opportunities for all?



Gerald Woodward wrote:

> And Mike Jarvis and the Men's Basketball Program brings in millions of
> dollars into the athletic program at St. John's because of their level of
> play.  In the business world it's called "Return on Investment," and let's
> face it, NCAA Division I sports are BIG Business!
>
> Gerald

Re: t-and-f: Salaries and Sports being cut

[Mike Prizy]

(((two items here)))


Football coaches cost too much to fire

By Ryan Gabrielson
Arizona Daily Wildcat

"Going into the 2001 season, 15 colleges hired new football coaches, including 
Arizona, which
brought on Mackovic, and ASU, which hired Dirk Koetter.

"The salaries given Mackovic and Koetter made them the state's two highest-paid 
employees."

http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/uwire/112102aae.html



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> Debt service and capital expenses are not included in these totals.
>

I'm not an accountant - but there are at least a couple good ones on this list - but I 
think where
the expenses get real fuzzy are in the "capital expenses" area. I don't see any 
university football
team that could afford to build and pay the overhead and upkeep on a stadium - not 
without cost
shifting to the rest of the university, plus the added benefit of the school's huge 
tax exemption.
And, football insurance premiums alone could probably go far in funding the 
Olympic-type sports at a
university (I could not open the pdf file to see if insurance was listed as a line 
item.)

Eliminate the players' salaries from any NFL team and my guess is it cost more than 
$10 million to
run a high-profile football program. I think the true expense to run a major college 
football
program far exceeds the revenue these college football program takes credit for.








> >You're right that Title IX is not the only reason why sports programs are
> >being cut, and universities are making poor decisions about how to
> allocate
> >resources to the so-called "revenue" sports, most of which actually lose
> >money.
>
> Anyone have a good study on this?  I know that many college football
> programs are money losers - but I doubt that the elite programs that are paying 
> coaches
> seven-figure salaries are.
>
> >From the University of Texas, 2001
> http://www.utexas.edu/vp/irla/eada2001.pdf  :
>
>   Revenues Expenses
> Sport  Dollars Percent of  Dollars  Percent of
>Grand Total  Grand Total
> (1) Football$25,605,289   47.6% $10,291,08721.7%
> (2) Men's Basketball $4,461,5418.3%  $3,200,723 6.8%
> (3) Other Men's  $1,103,8822.1%  $4,050,042 8.6%
>
> Revenue includes ticket sales; student activity fees; guarantees and
> options; contributions from alumni and others; state or government support;
> institutional support; post-season compensation; concessions; radio and
> television; special events; program sales and advertising; signage,
> sponsorships, and royalties; sports camps; and all other revenues intended
> for intercollegiate sports.
> Expenses include appearance guarantees and options, athletically-related
> student aid, contract services, equipment, fund-raising activities,
> operating expenses, promotional activities, recruiting expenses, salaries
> and benefits, supplies, travel, and any other expenses attributable to
> intercollegiate activities.
> Debt service and capital expenses are not included in these totals.
>
> That makes football a nice $15 million a year cash steer that fuels the
> rest of the athletic department.
>
> Elite NCAA football and basketball programs are in the entertainment
> business - and if you have a coach who helps up the value of your
> entertainment package, you pay him what it takes to keep him.
>

t-and-f: Chicago Registration at 25,000

[Mike Prizy]

 Original Message 
Subject: Registration at 25,000 -- 40,000 Cap expected to close by end of August
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:04:53 -0500
From: LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon


  NEWS RELEASE

   Registered Participants Reach 25,000 at a Record Pace
  The 40,000 cap expected to be reached by end of August ? Register Now!


Chicago (July 17, 2003)?Registration for 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon
is approaching the 40,000 cap at a rapid pace.  To date, more than 25,000
runners have signed up to run the 26.2-mile race that takes place on
Sunday, October 12.  The cap was increased this year to 40,000 from 37,500.
Registration will close on Sept. 5 or when the registration cap is reached,
which is expected by the end of August.

"We are reaching our registration cap at a record pace this year and I
fully expect that we will reach the 40,000 cap as anticipated," stated
Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski.  "If you plan on participating
this year, you have to make your decision relatively soon and register."

Participation in the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has increased
dramatically since 1996 when only 10,925 registered.  The 2003 marathon has
the potential to be largest marathon ever to take place.  Pinkowski attests
the record participation to the growing popularity of running and the fact
that the Chicago race has become engrained into the fabric of Chicago and
its sports scene.

"Running and marathoning have truly been recognized as part of the Chicago
sports profile. With a focus on healthy lifestyles and with the extremely
talented elite athletes who have produced epic performances in the Chicago
Marathon, the sport has become tremendously popular."

New to this year's race are competitive and preferred start positions for
those who meet certain qualifying times based on completion of a marathon
or half-marathon since Jan. 1, 2001.  Qualifying times for the 2,500
competitive start positions are 3:15:00 or less in a full marathon and
1:30:00 or less in a half-marathon.  For the 5,500 preferred start
positions, the qualifying times are 3:45:00 in a marathon and 1:45:00 in a
half-marathon.

The competitive and preferred start positions are staged closer in
proximity to the start line and are offered based on registration date and
valid proof received.  Less than 1,000 positions remain for the competitive
start and 2,500 for the preferred start.

The marathon is open to all runners who can complete the course in less
than six hours.  For information, call 1-888-243-3344 (U.S. and Canada) or
(312) 904-9800.  Registration is $80 ($90 for international participants)
and can be completed online at www.chicagomarathon.com.

Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever,
$550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest
first place payout in the sport.  The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon
begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's
Grant Park and is expected to draw up to the increased registration cap of
40,000 participants.  CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of
The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 7:30
a.m. to 11 a.m. race day.

   # # #

t-and-f: [Fwd: TItle IX fyi]

[Mike Prizy]

"... OCR hereby clarifies that nothing in Title IX requires the cutting or reduction 
of teams in
order to demonstrate compliance with Title IX ..."


 Original Message 
Subject: TItle IX fyi
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:10:15 -0500
From: Brenda 
To: Mike Prizy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://www.ed.gov/offices/OCR/title9guidanceFinal.html

Re: t-and-f: ESPN Track and Field Wire

[Mike Prizy]

Nando news had a nice track wire before they pulled the plug earlier this year. This 
fills a big
void. Kudos ESPN!

Lee Nichols wrote:

> >Not sure if anyone has posted this, but ESPN.com now has a page
> >dedicated to track & field wire coverage.  You can find it at:
> >
> >http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wire?sectionId=23
> >
> >Tom Borish
> >www.trackshark.com
> >
> Awesome! I've been wanting something like this ever since Yahoo!
> stopped carrying the track wire coverage. Thanks, Tom!
> --
> Lee Nichols
> Assistant News Editor
> The Austin Chronicle
> 512/454-5766, ext. 138
> fax 512/458-6910
> http://austinchronicle.com

Re: t-and-f: Michael Johnson spouts off again

[Mike Prizy]

The guy holds the WR at 200m and 400m and he "know's nothing about the
100m dash?" 
Kebba Tolbert wrote:

 
An expert on what? He know's nothing about the 100m dash? So what he
has the WR? As anyone who has watched NFL football will tell you being
a great player has no bearing on being able to commentate.
 
Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])=
Head Coach -- Portland State University
Track & Field/Cross Country
GO VIKS!!
www.goviks.com
>From: Lee Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Lee Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: t-and-f: Michael Johnson spouts off again
>Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:03:39 -0500
>
>>
>>Would someone tell MJ to shut up!! He's an idiot.
>>
>No he's not. He's an expert. Whoever was interviewing him wanted an
>expert opinion from someone who knows what it takes to get to the
>top of the sprinting world. His credentials, in case you've
>forgotten: 19.32, 43.18, and enough championship medals to armor a
>tank.
>--
>Lee Nichols
>Assistant News Editor
>The Austin Chronicle
>512/454-5766, ext. 138
>fax 512/458-6910
>http://austinchronicle.com


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Re: t-and-f: Slaney for Hall of Fame?

[Mike Prizy]

Maybe on par with Sotomayor.

"Wayne T. Armbrust" wrote:

> Netters,
>
> What is her status with the IAAF?
>
> --
> Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computomarx
> 3604 Grant Ct.
> Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA
> (573) 445-6675 (voice & FAX)
> http://www.Computomarx.com
> "Know the difference between right and wrong...
> Always give your best effort...
> Treat others the way you'd like to be treated..."
> - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)

Re: t-and-f: Slaney for Hall of Fame?

[Mike Prizy]

I am looking for the story I did on this, but as I recall, T/E ratios were based on 
males. Nobody
ever checked to see if T/E ratios fluctuate during a woman's monthly hormonal cycle.

Dan Kaplan wrote:

> --- "Wayne T. Armbrust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > instead of coming up with the lame excuse that she did, that
> > somehow birth control pills caused her testosterone-epitestosterone
> > level to be more than 10 times normal.
>
> As lame as that excuse might have been, was it ever scientifically
> refuted?  Last I saw, people seemed to be suggesting it was actually a
> fairly credible explanation that should be investigated further.
>
> Dan
>
> =
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t-and-f: [Fwd: Chicago Marathon Registration Reaches 35,000]

[Mike Prizy]

 Original Message 
Subject: Chicago Marathon Registration Reaches 35,000 -- Last Chance to Registerbefore 
40,000 CAP is Reached
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:14:12 -0500


Press Release
(From the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon)

   Last Chance to Register Before Cap is Reached
   35,000 Registered to Date ? Registration will Close at 40,000


Chicago (August 11, 2003)?Registration for the 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago
Marathon has reached 35,000 to date and is expected to reach the cap of
40,000 shortly.  Once the cap is reached, registration will be closed and
there will not be an opportunity to participate in this year's marathon.

"If you want to run this year's LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, you'll need
to register immediately," advised Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski.
"It's certainly common to have thoughts of running without actually
registering, so if you've been training and have made that kind commitment,
you need to register today so you can compete in this year's race. "

The 26.2-mile race takes place on Sunday, October 12.  The cap was
increased this year to 40,000 from 37,500.  The marathon is open to all
runners who can complete the course in less than six hours.  Registration
is $80 ($90 for international participants) and can be completed online at
www.chicagomarathon.com. For additional information, call 1-888-243-3344
(U.S. and Canada) or (312) 904-9800.

Participation in the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has increased
dramatically since 1996 when only 10,925 registered.  The 2003 marathon has
the potential to be largest marathon ever to take place.  Pinkowski attests
the record participation to the growing popularity of running and the fact
that the Chicago race has become engrained into the fabric of Chicago and
its sports scene.

"The marathon has become an integral part of the fabric of the City of
Chicago and we see this more and more each year," added Event Chairman and
Chief Marketing Officer for LaSalle Bank, Mark A. Nystuen.  "Not only do
40,000 people run the race, but nearly 1 million spectators line the
course, 150,000 people attend the Health & Fitness Expo, and the event is
broadcast around the world?this has become an International event that
Chicagoans have truly embraced."

New to this year's race are competitive and preferred start positions for
those who meet certain qualifying times based on completion of a marathon
or half-marathon since Jan. 1, 2001. The competitive and preferred start
positions are staged closer in proximity to the start line and are offered
based on registration date and valid proof received.


Qualifying times for the remaining 350 competitive start positions are
3:15:00 or less in a full marathon and 1:30:00 or less in a half-marathon.
For the remaining 1,500 preferred start positions, the qualifying times are
3:45:00 in a marathon and 1:45:00 in a half-marathon.

Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever,
$550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest
first place payout in the sport.  The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon
begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's
Grant Park and is expected to draw up to the increased registration cap of
40,000 participants.  CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of
The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 7:30
a.m. to 11 a.m. race day.

   # # #

Re: t-and-f: Kenyan Drug Scandel

[Mike Prizy]

But, isn't Malmo the name of a tabloid that has an "underlying motivation of selling 
magazines and
making a lot of money?"

"Wayne T. Armbrust" wrote:

> B. Kunnath wrote:
>
> > From: Dan Kaplan
> >
> >  If you can enlighten me as to how that is no different from the T&F
> > drug accusation situation, then I will be quite impressed.
> >
> snip
>
> >  Likewise in the drug postings. Every time Ive asked someone to come
> > forward and actually put names, dates and locations, theres  some
> > major backpedalling. I have yet to see a single person come on here or
> > any other running page and claim point blank that he/she has witnessed
> > or specifically knows of someone doing the dope.
> >
> Malmo has.  He named the Eugene physician that was providing steroids
> for AW and even admitted to using Winsterol (sp?) himself.
>
> --
>
> Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computomarxª
> 3604 Grant Ct.
> Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA
> (573) 445-6675 (voice & FAX)
> http://www.Computomarx.com
> "Know the difference between right and wrong...
> Always give your best effort...
> Treat others the way you'd like to be treated..."
> - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)

Re: t-and-f: WC TV SCHEDULE??

[Mike Prizy]

Zurich meet Saturday from the front page at http://usatf.org/

Sat. Aug. 23, 2:00-3:00 p.m. ET - ESPN2
IAAF Golden League presented by Finish Line
Welklasse Zurich


and the WC schedule for the U.S. TV market:

http://usatf.org/calendars/TVSchedule.asp




"Martin J. Dixon" wrote:

> Quite a bit everyday if you can access CBC somehow.
>
> "B. Kunnath" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Any idea how much of it, and where,  we'll be able to watch in the US?
> >
> > BK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: t-and-f: Kenyan Drug Scandel

[Mike Prizy]

I think the average (American) football fan realizes that today's football players are 
the sizes
they are from something other than being corn fed.

The difference is the media coverage. Most track stories in today's newspapers rarely 
lead without
some mention of drugs. Sunday's football game, which was shown on live TV and heard on 
radio in its
entirety, could have as many as five stories in the Monday paper. Here in Chicago, 
there are two
major Chicago papers and two large suburban papers. There could be a dozen reporters 
writing about
one game, plus it was live on TV and the radio (Here in Chicago, real Bear fans watch 
the TV with
sound turned off and listen to the radio for the hometown biased announcers.)

For the big American team sports, even with the reporting of domestic violence 
charges, drug busts,
and DUIs, there is still an overwhelming amount of column space to what happened in 
the game and
what happened on the field. So if the bad takes up a very small percentage of the 
reporting, it must
not be important for the fan to know.

On the other hand, there are few track stories in the big papers. When a track story 
does appear,
there is only one story and there is a good chance most of it is has to do with drugs. 
If one story
is devoted to a drug issue, that is an overwhelming amount of negative information and 
readers
(fans) are going to associate the sport with being bad.

I think USATF is doing a good job of marketing the sport to fans.

Maybe what we need is USATF and Track and Field Writers of America (I am a 
card-carrying member of
both organizations) to come up with a better marketing and education plan that targets 
editors and
reporters who lack knowledge of our sport.

t-and-f: Chicago registration at 39,200

[Mike Prizy]

 Original Message 
Subject: News Flash: Last Chance to Register!
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 06:27:52 GMT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon 
www.chicagomarathon.com
October 12, 2003

NEWS FLASH
LAST CHANCE TO REGISTER BEFORE CAP IS REACHED  
39,200 REGISTERED TO DATE - REGISTRATION WILL CLOSE AT 40,000

Registration for The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has reached 39,200 to date and 
is expected
to reach the cap of 40,000 shortly.  Once the cap is reached, registration will be 
closed and
individuals who have not registered will be unable participate in this year’s 
Marathon.  

Online registration is available at .

_ _ _ _ _ _ _

t-and-f: [Fwd: Chicago Marathon Registration Closed - 40,000 Cap Reached in Record Time]

[Mike Prizy]

 Original Message 
Subject: Chicago Marathon Registration Closed - 40,000 Cap Reached in Record Time
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 08:54:26 -0500
From: marathon.office



PRESS RELEASE

  MARATHON REGISTRATION IS CLOSED
  40,000 REGISTRATION CAP REACHED IN RECORD TIME
 LIMITED ENTRIES AVAILABLE THROUGH MARATHON CHARITY ORGANIZATIONS


CHICAGO (August 22, 2003)?Registration for The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago
Marathon is now closed.  The cap of 40,000 participants was reached
yesterday.  Limited entries may be available through charity organizations
associated with the Marathon.  A complete list of these organizations is
available on the event's Web site at www.chicagomarathon.com.

"We have reached our registration cap in record time this year," remarked
Event Chairman and Chief Marketing Officer for LaSalle Bank, Mark A.
Nystuen.  "This is a testament to the quality of the event and to how
mainstream the sport of running has become.  We are delighted to bring this
event to the 40,000 participants and to the one million spectators who
rally the runners race day."

Participation in The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has increased
dramatically since 1996 when only 10,925 registered.  With 40,000
registered for the 2003 race, this year's Marathon has the potential to be
the largest road race ever, which will be based on the number of
participants who actually complete the 26.2-mile race.  The cap was
increased this year from 37,500, which was the set cap for the past two
years.

"From our modest beginnings in 1977 with just 4,200 runners to our present
popularity, The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has made history, established
traditions and helped dreams become a reality," remarked Executive Race
Director Carey Pinkowski.  "We will carry on our prestigious legacy and
continue to add pages to the record books this year."

Elite athletes will compete this fall for the highest marathon purse ever,
$550,000. The male and female winners each will earn $100,000, the largest
first place payout in the sport.  The 2003 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon
begins Sunday, October 12 at 8 a.m., starting and finishing in Chicago's
Grant Park.  CBS 2 CHICAGO is the official broadcast partner of The LaSalle
Bank Chicago Marathon and will cover the race live from 6 to 11:30 a.m.
race day.

   # # #

t-and-f: Today's WC results

[Mike Prizy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wire?sectionId=23

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

[Mike Prizy]

Speaking of 1964 and wild 10,000s, the other night on digital cable I stumbled on the 
movie,
"Running Brave."

And, the tape I used for the Zurich meet Saturday happened to have the 1992 (?) 
MobilOne Indoor meet
on it. It was in Fairfax, Va., the first year with the Martin surface. Noureddine 
Morceli won the
mile. Eamonn Coghlan ran 4:07 in a master's mile (was he 40 yet in early 1992???) with 
Ken Popejoy
second.

Two of the announcers were? Frank Shorter and Craig Masback.

As a bonus, the last hour of the tape had the 1996 Ill. H.S. state XC meet with Jorge 
Torres winning
as a sophomore, the first of his three state XC titles. There was a pretty good 
freshman in 24th
place named Don Sage.

Signed,

Track-on-TV starved American



Lee Nichols wrote:

> But if you look at the major championships, going back at least to
> the 1964 Olympics, the 10K is consistently one of the wildest races.
>
> Lee Nichols
> Assistant News Editor
> The Austin Chronicle
> 512/454-5766, ext. 138
> fax 512/458-6910
> http://austinchronicle.com

Re: t-and-f: Slattery's race

[Mike Prizy]

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit
there."

- Will Rogers (1879-1935)
American humorist



Tony Banovich wrote:

> Ed points out what I think is one of the fundamental differences between the
> US athletes and many of the rest of the world.  Slattery sees this as a
> learning experience and a drive for 5 years from now.  How many of the
> Africans do we see taking their time and seeing if they mature and worry
> about two Olympics down the road.
>
> Yeah, I know that you can't develop overnight.  But Geb certainly wasn't
> looking at the worlds in 93 as a learning experience.  And he was only 20.
> And has he flamed out just because of his push in his younger years.  Hell
> no.
>
> We need to not always be "looking down the road" or "it's all part of the
> big picture".  Sometimes you have to live, and train, in the here and now.
> It's amazing how the learning experiences of many of our distance athletes
> have not lead to medals or finals births 4 to 7 years later.
>
> Tony Banovich
> Billings, Montana
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ed Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "track net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:24 PM
> Subject: t-and-f: Slattery's race
>
> > Netters:
> >
> > Steve Slattery did just about what I expected he would at Paris,
> > though I didn;t think he would get quite that close to a final berth. And
> he
> > might have made it but for the minor inuury which cut into his training
> > schedule a month or so ago.
> >
> > His comments summed up things very well. This was a learning
> > experience for a career which if still in its infancy. The next step is to
> > make the Olympic team next year, get past the opening round and perhaps
> into
> > the finals and lower his PR to around 8:15. Then the real drive toward a
> > U.S. record and at least a top six finish by 2008.
> >
> >
> > On another note: why did Gail Devers run the 100M? I can;t believe
> > the four rounds will do anything to help her hurdles bid, which sees
> pretty
> > solid at this point. Hoiw much better would it have been to accept a relay
> > spot and let one of our younger sprinters gain the experience of running
> the
> > 100 in her place.
> >
> > Also, I'm conusd abouyt the 100M situation. I had thought the new
> > rule put a false start on everyone on the first break, but the posts seem
> to
> > indicate some other interpretation. of course, I am firmly oppoed to te
> > rule--no one should be penalized for something he hasn't done. The way
> > things are going, we might even see a repeat of the (in)famous 1944 AAU
> > final when everyone was d/qed.
> >
> > Ed Grant
> >
> >

Re: t-and-f: (The real) TV mystery

[Mike Prizy]

The Big TV Mystery as I see it (((NOT))) was why even ESPN2's on-screen cable listing 
here in
Chicago states track and field 9-11 p.m., but instead there is baseball on. The WCs 
were on 7-9 p.m.
I sat down at 8:58 p.m. to see a near empty stadium and hear the closing comments. 
Baseball NOT
berry, berry good to me.

Ed Grant wrote:

> Netters:
>
> Having been lavish (quite deserved) criticism of Tursday;s TV
> offering from Paris, I have to be just as lacish in praise of today;s
> progtam. My only question is, why such a complete reversal?
>
> Today's show opened with full coverage of the two events which were
> missed the day before because (I guess) a time overrun. Not only were they
> shown in full, but they were introduced properly as something that had
> happened the day before, unlike the pitiful Tuesday masquerade that would
> have had us believe the 100M finals came after the women's 200M trials, not
> a day or two days later,
>
> I can only conclude that different hands were at the controls of the
> two shows (or that the first-day gaffs were so obvious that something had to
> be done about it). The Tuesday coverage was typical network-style bilge,
> treating fans as if they were a bunch of ignorant boobs. Today's show was
> what we have come to expected from the ESPN international coverage, as good
> an attempt as U.S. coverage can make to match the kind of TV coverage
> European fans take for granted---given the limitations of time allotment.I
> would expect we we will see the same kind of coverage the next two days, It
> is the weekend that worries me.
>
> Because of the wall-to-wall college football coverage on both ESPN
> channels Saturday, the Parish coverage will begin at midnight here on the
> East Coast (and maybe elsewhere as well, for all I know.) Then we get the
> network coverage the next day, which, if past performances give any
> indication, will simply ignore the fact that ESPN has been covering the meet
> for five days and waste a lot of the three and a half hours showing events
> we have already seen.
>
> Another indication of a possible difference in the production these
> past two days was the cutdown today in the number and length of commercials.
> Fortunately, where was even time left after the closing decathlon 1500M to
> show a few events which had been earlier neglected: the second semi of the
> women's 200M, the women's TJ..
>
> Ed Grant

Re: t-and-f: TV nystery

[Mike Prizy]

Walt,

I think the coverage is just fine. But, who is going to be watching if ESPN/ESPN2/ABC 
can't put the
show on during the advertised time slot?



>The Big TV Mystery as I see it (((NOT))) was why even ESPN2's on-screen
cable listing here in
Chicago states track and field 9-11 p.m., but instead there is baseball
on. The WCs were on 7-9 p.m.
I sat down at 8:58 p.m. to see a near empty stadium and hear the closing
comments. Baseball NOT
berry, berry good to me.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 8/27/03 8:22:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <
> two shows (or that the first-day gaffs were so obvious that something had to
>
> be done about it). >>
>
> Sorry to debunk your theory, Ed, but  the same people were at the controls
> for both shows (and will be for the ABC show).
>
> I'm not going to try to defend some of the things that went on Tuesday, but
> you have to remember that we were trying to fit four days of competition into
> one show, and then the false starts and "pullups" in the sprints during the
> live portion of the show forced us to push the steeple and 400 to Wednesday.
>
> As for ABC's show on Sunday, of course you're going to see events from the
> whole Championships. Why do you think the show is 3-1/2 hours long?
>
> Walt Murphy